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quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:47 PM Nathalie Chan King Choy wrote: > Hi all, > > > > Calling for agenda items for next Tuesday=E2=80=99s Xen FuSa SIG call. > > > > Please note: > > *Regarding the password and/or waiting room requirement that Zoom was > planning to roll out in July, that has been postponed until September. S= o, > no change to the process for joining the Zoom call at this time.* > > > > Outstanding action items from prior calls. Please let me know if you have > updates in the status/completion of them: > > - ISO 26262 > - Artem: Will reach out to David > - Artem: Submit sessions on code/issue/feature archaeology & bug > tracker for Xen Summit > - Tracking patch series > - Stefano S: I can ask George about his take. Maybe can schedule a > special Community call before April to discuss issue & patch tracki= ng b/c > may take a whole hour. > - Artem: If not having an earlier Community call, start discussion > about issue & patch tracking on xen-devel > - Doorstop > - Stefano S: I can try to link w/ Doorstop > - Fusa doc repository > - Stefano S: Add links to documentation on how to use git in the > readme > - Stefano S: Email Kate to see if she knows how Linux kernel has > solved reverse linking problem for kernel certification. > > Not sure which reverse linking is being discussed... V model to requirements, or linking of evidence to the standards clauses? Can you please clarify? > > - > - Requirements docs: > - Bertrand: Let's make sure we have the right user doc info for > runstate & get things correct w/ Antonio. Once we are confident wit= h this > one, we try to see how it can be merged. Re-visit the topic during = July 28 > th call. > - In the mean time, Stefano S will try to write more docs, without > the tags, assuming they will need to be changed. > - Others are encouraged to try for a hypercall or external > interface & send a pull request. > > > > > > The notes from the previous call & pointer to the recording are at > CryptDrive > Documents > FuSa SIG (shared folder) > 2020 Minutes > > > > Thanks & regards, > > Nathalie > > > --000000000000ebd76105a9f22ae4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:47 PM Natha= lie Chan King Choy <nathalie@xili= nx.com> wrote:

Hi all,

=C2=A0

Calling for agenda items for next Tuesday=E2=80=99s = Xen FuSa SIG call.

=C2=A0

Please note:

Regarding the password and/or waiting room requir= ement that Zoom was planning to roll out in July, that has been postponed u= ntil September.=C2=A0 So, no change to the process for joining the Zoom cal= l at this time.

=C2=A0

Outstanding action items from prior calls. Please le= t me know if you have updates in the status/completion of them:

  • ISO 26262
    • Artem: Will reach out to David
    • Artem:= Submit sessions on code/issue/feature archaeology & bug tracker for Xe= n Summit
  • Tracking patch series
    • Stefano S:=C2=A0I can ask George about his take. Maybe can schedu= le a special Community call before April to discuss issue & patch track= ing b/c may take a whole hour.
    • Artem: If not ha= ving an earlier Community call, start discussion about issue & patch tr= acking on xen-devel
  • Doorstop
    • Stefano S: I can try to link w/ Doorstop
  • Fusa doc repository
    • Stefano S: Add links to documentation on how to use git in the re= adme
    • Stefano S: Email Kate to see if she knows = how Linux kernel has solved reverse linking problem for kernel certificatio= n.
Not sure which reverse linki= ng is being discussed...=C2=A0 V model to requirements,=C2=A0 =C2=A0or link= ing of evidence to the standards clauses?=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Can you please clari= fy?=C2=A0
  • Requirements docs:
    • Bertrand: Let's make sure we have the right user doc info for= runstate & get things correct w/ Antonio. Once we are confident with t= his one, we try to see how it can be merged. Re-visit the topic during July 28th call.
    • In= the mean time, Stefano S will try to write more docs, without the tags, as= suming they will need to be changed.=C2=A0
    • Othe= rs are encouraged to try for a hypercall or external interface & send a= pull request.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

The notes from the previous call & pointer to th= e recording are at CryptDrive > Documents > FuSa SIG (shared folder) = > 2020 Minutes

=C2=A0

Thanks & regards,

Nathalie

=C2=A0

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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323329-835005517-1594239926=:4124 Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: On Wed, 8 Jul 2020, Kate Stewart wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:47 PM Nathalie Chan King Choy wrote: >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > Calling for agenda items for next Tuesday=E2=80=99s Xen FuSa SIG ca= ll. >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > Please note: >=20 > Regarding the password and/or waiting room requirement that Zoom wa= s planning to roll out in July, that has been postponed > until September.=C2=A0 So, no change to the process for joining the= Zoom call at this time. >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > Outstanding action items from prior calls. Please let me know if yo= u have updates in the status/completion of them: >=20 > o ISO 26262 > o Artem: Will reach out to David > o Artem: Submit sessions on code/issue/feature archaeology & = bug tracker for Xen Summit > o Tracking patch series > o Stefano S:=C2=A0I can ask George about his take. Maybe can = schedule a special Community call before April to discuss issue & > patch tracking b/c may take a whole hour. > o Artem: If not having an earlier Community call, start discu= ssion about issue & patch tracking on xen-devel > o Doorstop > o Stefano S: I can try to link w/ Doorstop > o Fusa doc repository > o Stefano S: Add links to documentation on how to use git in = the readme > o Stefano S: Email Kate to see if she knows how Linux kernel = has solved reverse linking problem for kernel certification. >=20 > Not sure which reverse linking is being discussed...=C2=A0 V model to req= uirements,=C2=A0 =C2=A0or linking of evidence to the standards clauses?=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Can > you please clarify?=C2=A0 Hi Kate, We were discussing how to link the documents to relevant code (e.g. header files under xen.git) and the code to the documents under the new separate repository. At the moment we are working on documents for backware-compatible interfaces that rarely change so it is a relatively easy problem to solve because we don't expect many changes on the xen.git side. However, if we were working on documents for interfaces that change more often things would be different. Eventually we came up with the idea of introducing a special header in the document under the new repository with a "link" to the original code, but we have no reverse link (no link from the code to the doc, but again in these cases the code is not expected to change.) See for instance: =2E. ######################################################### =2E. version: $Id$ =2E. src: xen/include/public/vcpu.h@RELEASE-4.13.0 =2E. ######################################################### https://gitlab.com/xen-project/fusa/-/blob/master/hypercalls/runstate.rst --8323329-835005517-1594239926=:4124-- From fusa-sig-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Jul 08 23:23:55 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:23:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xenproject.org) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jtJPu-0007HW-K2; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:23:54 +0000 Received: from us1-rack-iad1.inumbo.com ([172.99.69.81]) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jtJPt-0007HR-QG for fusa-sig@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:23:54 +0000 X-Inumbo-ID: 15b88050-c172-11ea-bb8b-bc764e2007e4 Received: from mail-lj1-x22c.google.com (unknown [2a00:1450:4864:20::22c]) by us1-rack-iad1.inumbo.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id 15b88050-c172-11ea-bb8b-bc764e2007e4; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lj1-x22c.google.com with SMTP id d17so236109ljl.3 for ; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 16:23:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=YeT7y0nK2rnK1eMAHAOvOsx51DXErXeDGjXsDXw8ebc=; b=AODNq7ZkTXb2v55qSKiO0D1zKgORFScs1J5AEI/5jamkx+VoCPvCyhgRSbWdnI8eO+ PxLBRBgSPXZDh3vyT8WqE+lkiRPhJ5ne/4e5i4dYxnuAt11nRBe4ik26+7HSCAa69I/I qNEKBvjlhz9c43RjB+9Mh7BELJ1gPuJhSkEw4= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YeT7y0nK2rnK1eMAHAOvOsx51DXErXeDGjXsDXw8ebc=; b=GKcaVmsCu+NiMvk1ZCXP/7dbudXA+P5P2GefA7jWTSh9EqJOdnf9qqakNzzim40pB8 BYBzxNy/tU5G5TpwOdUijeRPOtDf6rYHiyyc5qW9XrhvBFi6SwnuBUhjUgS8WEXI62Qz VtfnJ0KNX7myTyLgs2D6k0ahTvpM9chTM9FWvkjDcdpafoN+CF2s8f2Dgh5iyY2cfy47 avkRwZtnzmN2psi6G5KWnFrW/hy9qWfNLsxV5J4+t3ltJ+wApxaVvReFWimhMrbRw7q+ ioJ8slKpf1NnldVJW9TTEELhghV+JeLlTT0za7ewsE4MfWJruqy7D2g9rNnfHicgfZUv nvZA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533P/UKlJUyacUWTQ91E/Vlxxx6iYeDRwl4Uah0moP+sxZ5K96As pfmA7au1HQiP05vb5on/4u0RXmchBEqiSnUV+jYh98EFQ3o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzC80fjm8y+8FCxUR9O+SukzjozGfAYf6V5kjcdTrWoRcwFYCug2d+xopF/MXsGZNB4sTcKEAAwyR6XQzfvzdo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:1b5:: with SMTP id c21mr9849274ljn.82.1594250631751; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 16:23:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Kate Stewart Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:23:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Calling for agenda items: July 14th Xen Project FuSa SIG meeting To: Stefano Stabellini Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000096c15405a9f66667" X-BeenThere: fusa-sig@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: This is a discussion list for members of the Xen Project FuSa SIG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "fusa-sig@lists.xenproject.org" Errors-To: fusa-sig-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Sender: "Fusa-sig" --00000000000096c15405a9f66667 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 3:36 PM Stefano Stabellini < stefano.stabellini@xilinx.com> wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jul 2020, Kate Stewart wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:47 PM Nathalie Chan King Choy < > nathalie@xilinx.com> wrote: > ... > > o Stefano S: Email Kate to see if she knows how Linux kernel > has solved reverse linking problem for kernel certification. > > > > Not sure which reverse linking is being discussed... V model to > requirements, or linking of evidence to the standards clauses? Can > > you please clarify? > > Hi Kate, > > We were discussing how to link the documents to relevant code (e.g. > header files under xen.git) and the code to the documents under the > new separate repository. > > At the moment we are working on documents for backware-compatible > interfaces that rarely change so it is a relatively easy problem to > solve because we don't expect many changes on the xen.git side. > However, if we were working on documents for interfaces that change more > often things would be different. > > Eventually we came up with the idea of introducing a special header in > the document under the new repository with a "link" to the original > code, but we have no reverse link (no link from the code to the doc, but > again in these cases the code is not expected to change.) > > See for instance: > > > .. ######################################################### > .. version: $Id$ > .. src: xen/include/public/vcpu.h@RELEASE-4.13.0 > .. ######################################################### > > > https://gitlab.com/xen-project/fusa/-/blob/master/hypercalls/runstate.rst Linux kernel isn't pursuing this direction (at least so far), but the Zephyr project is. Anas has been working on this and is scheduled to present at an upcoming TSC, so as soon as his details are ready to present, it may be worthwhile arranging a call to discuss, and see if the projects can leverage each other's work. Thoughts? Kate --00000000000096c15405a9f66667 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


=
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 3:36 PM Stefan= o Stabellini <stefano.s= tabellini@xilinx.com> wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020, Kate Stewart wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:47 PM Nathalie Chan King Choy <nathalie@xilinx.com> = wrote:
...
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 Stefano S: Email Kate= to see if she knows how Linux kernel has solved reverse linking problem fo= r kernel certification.
>
> Not sure which reverse linking is being discussed...=C2=A0 V model to = requirements,=C2=A0 =C2=A0or linking of evidence to the standards clauses?= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Can
> you please clarify?=C2=A0

Hi Kate,

We were discussing how to link the documents to relevant code (e.g.
header files under xen.git) and the code to the documents under the
new separate repository.

At the moment we are working on documents for backware-compatible
interfaces that rarely change so it is a relatively easy problem to
solve because we don't expect many changes on the xen.git side.
However, if we were working on documents for interfaces that change more often things would be different.

Eventually we came up with the idea of introducing a special header in
the document under the new repository with a "link" to the origin= al
code, but we have no reverse link (no link from the code to the doc, but again in these cases the code is not expected to change.)

See for instance:


.. #########################################################
.. version: $Id$
.. src: xen/include/public/vcpu.h@RELEASE-4.13.0
.. #########################################################


https://gitlab.com/xen-proj= ect/fusa/-/blob/master/hypercalls/runstate.rst

Linux kernel isn't pursuing this direction (at least so far), b= ut the Zephyr project is.=C2=A0
Anas has been working on this and= is scheduled to present at an upcoming
TSC, so as soon as his de= tails are ready to present,=C2=A0 it may be worthwhile
arranging = a call to discuss, and see if the projects can leverage each other's
work.

Thoughts?

K= ate
=C2=A0
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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323329-1211917656-1594330336=:4124 Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: It would be great to have Anas come and present at one of our next FuSa calls! Speaking of calls, also given Bertrand's absence, I am thinking we should cancel the one on July 14 and meet again on July 28. On Thu, 9 Jul 2020, Artem Mygaiev wrote: > Hello Kate >=20 > This is a great idea, maybe we can ask Anas to join one of our upcoming c= alls? >=20 > -- Artem >=20 > On Wed, 2020-07-08 at 18:23 -0500, Kate Stewart wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 3:36 PM Stefano Stabellini wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jul 2020, Kate Stewart wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:47 PM Nathalie Chan King Choy wrote: > ... > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 Stefano S: Email= Kate to see if she knows how Linux kernel has solved reverse linking probl= em for kernel > certification. > > > > Not sure which reverse linking is being discussed...=C2=A0 V mode= l to requirements,=C2=A0 =C2=A0or linking of evidence to the > standards clauses?=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Can > > you please clarify?=C2=A0 >=20 > Hi Kate, >=20 > We were discussing how to link the documents to relevant code (e.g. > header files under xen.git) and the code to the documents under the > new separate repository. >=20 > At the moment we are working on documents for backware-compatible > interfaces that rarely change so it is a relatively easy problem to > solve because we don't expect many changes on the xen.git side. > However, if we were working on documents for interfaces that change= more > often things would be different. >=20 > Eventually we came up with the idea of introducing a special header= in > the document under the new repository with a "link" to the original > code, but we have no reverse link (no link from the code to the doc= , but > again in these cases the code is not expected to change.) >=20 > See for instance: >=20 >=20 > .. ######################################################### > .. version: $Id$ > .. src: xen/include/public/vcpu.h@RELEASE-4.13.0 > .. ######################################################### >=20 >=20 > https://gitlab.com/xen-project/fusa/-/blob/master/hypercalls/runsta= te.rst >=20 >=20 > Linux kernel isn't pursuing this direction (at least so far), but the Zep= hyr project is.=C2=A0 > Anas has been working on this and is scheduled to present at an upcoming > TSC, so as soon as his details are ready to present,=C2=A0 it may be wort= hwhile > arranging a call to discuss, and see if the projects can leverage each ot= her's > work. >=20 > Thoughts? 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Will let you know if we're lined up by that point for Anas to join. Kate On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:32 PM Stefano Stabellini < stefano.stabellini@xilinx.com> wrote: > It would be great to have Anas come and present at one of our next FuSa > calls! > > > Speaking of calls, also given Bertrand's absence, I am thinking we > should cancel the one on July 14 and meet again on July 28. > > > On Thu, 9 Jul 2020, Artem Mygaiev wrote: > > Hello Kate > > > > This is a great idea, maybe we can ask Anas to join one of our upcoming > calls? > > > > -- Artem > > > > On Wed, 2020-07-08 at 18:23 -0500, Kate Stewart wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 3:36 PM Stefano Stabellini < > stefano.stabellini@xilinx.com> wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Jul 2020, Kate Stewart wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:47 PM Nathalie Chan King Choy < > nathalie@xilinx.com> wrote: > > ... > > > o Stefano S: Email Kate to see if she knows how > Linux kernel has solved reverse linking problem for kernel > > certification. > > > > > > Not sure which reverse linking is being discussed... V model to > requirements, or linking of evidence to the > > standards clauses? Can > > > you please clarify? > > > > Hi Kate, > > > > We were discussing how to link the documents to relevant code (e.g. > > header files under xen.git) and the code to the documents under the > > new separate repository. > > > > At the moment we are working on documents for backware-compatible > > interfaces that rarely change so it is a relatively easy problem to > > solve because we don't expect many changes on the xen.git side. > > However, if we were working on documents for interfaces that > change more > > often things would be different. > > > > Eventually we came up with the idea of introducing a special > header in > > the document under the new repository with a "link" to the original > > code, but we have no reverse link (no link from the code to the > doc, but > > again in these cases the code is not expected to change.) > > > > See for instance: > > > > > > .. ######################################################### > > .. version: $Id$ > > .. src: xen/include/public/vcpu.h@RELEASE-4.13.0 > > .. ######################################################### > > > > > > > https://gitlab.com/xen-project/fusa/-/blob/master/hypercalls/runstate.rst > > > > > > Linux kernel isn't pursuing this direction (at least so far), but the > Zephyr project is. > > Anas has been working on this and is scheduled to present at an upcoming > > TSC, so as soon as his details are ready to present, it may be > worthwhile > > arranging a call to discuss, and see if the projects can leverage each > other's > > work. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > Kate > > > > > > > > --0000000000002eef0405aa0b6b6c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
After Anas has presented to the Zephyr TSC,=C2=A0 and we h= ave some basic agreement in the project,=C2=A0 =C2=A0
I'm happy to = extend the invitation to him to come to one of the Xen calls, and go throug= h the details.

+1 on canceling next week, and pick= ing up on the 28th.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Will let you know if we're lined up
by that point for Anas to join.

Kate
<= /div>
O= n Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:32 PM Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@xilinx.com> wrote:
=
It would be great t= o have Anas come and present at one of our next FuSa
calls!


Speaking of calls, also given Bertrand's absence, I am thinking we
should cancel the one on July 14 and meet again on July 28.


On Thu, 9 Jul 2020, Artem Mygaiev wrote:
> Hello Kate
>
> This is a great idea, maybe we can ask Anas to join one of our upcomin= g calls?
>
> -- Artem
>
> On Wed, 2020-07-08 at 18:23 -0500, Kate Stewart wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 3:36 PM Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@xilin= x.com> wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Wed, 8 Jul 2020, Kate Stewart wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:47 PM Nathali= e Chan King Choy <nathalie@xilinx.com> wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0...
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 o=C2=A0 Stefano S: Email Kate to see if she knows how Linux kernel has = solved reverse linking problem for kernel
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0certification.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Not sure which reverse linking is being= discussed...=C2=A0 V model to requirements,=C2=A0 =C2=A0or linking of evid= ence to the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0standards clauses?=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Can
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> you please clarify?=C2=A0
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Kate,
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0We were discussing how to link the documents= to relevant code (e.g.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0header files under xen.git) and the code to = the documents under the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0new separate repository.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0At the moment we are working on documents fo= r backware-compatible
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0interfaces that rarely change so it is a rel= atively easy problem to
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0solve because we don't expect many chang= es on the xen.git side.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0However, if we were working on documents for= interfaces that change more
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0often things would be different.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Eventually we came up with the idea of intro= ducing a special header in
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the document under the new repository with a= "link" to the original
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0code, but we have no reverse link (no link f= rom the code to the doc, but
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0again in these cases the code is not expecte= d to change.)
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0See for instance:
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0.. #########################################= ################
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0.. version: $Id$
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0.. src: xen/include/public/vcpu.h@RELEASE-4.= 13.0
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0.. #########################################= ################
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://gitlab.com/xen-project/fusa/-/blob/master/hypercalls/runstate.r= st
>
>
> Linux kernel isn't pursuing this direction (at least so far), but = the Zephyr project is.=C2=A0
> Anas has been working on this and is scheduled to present at an upcomi= ng
> TSC, so as soon as his details are ready to present,=C2=A0 it may be w= orthwhile
> arranging a call to discuss, and see if the projects can leverage each= other's
> work.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Kate
> =C2=A0
>
>
>
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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I have not seen any objections to Stefano's proposal for cancelling the 7/1= 4 Xen FuSa SIG call, and received no agenda items that need to be discussed= this upcoming Tuesday, so cancelling the calendar item. 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Hi all,

 

I have not seen any objections to Stefano’s pr= oposal for cancelling the 7/14 Xen FuSa SIG call, and received no agenda it= ems that need to be discussed this upcoming Tuesday, so cancelling the cale= ndar item.

 

Talk to you on 7/28!

 

Best regards,

Nathalie

 

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