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For whom may this concern,

I'm Jay, one of the students at the University of Texas in Austin majoring
in Computer Science. This fall 2019 semester I'm taking a Virtualization
<https://github.com/vijay03/cs378-f19> course for understanding and
building Hypervisors, Containers, and Unikernels. We would like to work on
a project related to building features for Unikernels for this class.

We're a group of 3 people that'll be contributing to the project. We have
learned about some different implementations of Unikernels, but we did not
have any implementation experience for it. We have built core components of
a working educational JOS hypervisor in this class. The deadline for
finishing the project is December 12th. Could anyone please recommend us a
list of possible Unikernel features projects for MirageOS or some
point-of-contact for finding some good starter projects on MirageOS that
can last 2 months?

Best,
Jie Hao (Jay) Liao

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ls. We would like to work on a project related to building features for Uni=
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3 people that&#39;ll be contributing to the project. We have learned about =
some different implementations of Unikernels, but we did not have any imple=
mentation experience for it. We have built core components of a working edu=
cational JOS hypervisor in this class. The deadline for finishing the proje=
ct is December 12th. Could anyone please recommend us a list of possible Un=
ikernel features projects for MirageOS or some point-of-contact for finding=
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Hi Jie Hao,

I also added the mini-os list where Unikraft development happens (see =
https://xenproject.org/developers/teams/unikraft/ =
<https://xenproject.org/developers/teams/unikraft/>) as this may be =
relevant as well

However, regarding a MirageOS point contact and some specific discussion =
related to Mirage OS, please hang out at the #mirage IRC channel - you =
must register your Nick, otherwise you cannot join. Instructions at
* https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration =
<https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration>=20
* https://xenproject.org/help/irc/ <https://xenproject.org/help/irc/>
Most devs are based in Europe, so the best time to be on the IRC channel =
is your morning. You can see who is who at https://mirage.io/community/ =
<https://mirage.io/community/>

Normally starter projects are at =
http://canopy.mirage.io/tags/help%20needed =
<http://canopy.mirage.io/tags/help%20needed>, but this list has not been =
updated for some time

Best Regards
Lars

> On 24 Oct 2019, at 22:35, Jie Hao Liao <jhliao@utexas.edu> wrote:
>=20
> For whom may this concern,
>=20
> I'm Jay, one of the students at the University of Texas in Austin =
majoring in Computer Science. This fall 2019 semester I'm taking a =
Virtualization <https://github.com/vijay03/cs378-f19> course for =
understanding and building Hypervisors, Containers, and Unikernels. We =
would like to work on a project related to building features for =
Unikernels for this class.
>=20
> We're a group of 3 people that'll be contributing to the project. We =
have learned about some different implementations of Unikernels, but we =
did not have any implementation experience for it. We have built core =
components of a working educational JOS hypervisor in this class. The =
deadline for finishing the project is December 12th. Could anyone please =
recommend us a list of possible Unikernel features projects for MirageOS =
or some point-of-contact for finding some good starter projects on =
MirageOS that can last 2 months?
>=20
> Best,
> Jie Hao (Jay) Liao
> _______________________________________________
> MirageOS-devel mailing list
> MirageOS-devel@lists.xenproject.org
> https://lists.xenproject.org/mailman/listinfo/mirageos-devel


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charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi =
Jie Hao,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">I also added the mini-os list where Unikraft development =
happens (see&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://xenproject.org/developers/teams/unikraft/" =
class=3D"">https://xenproject.org/developers/teams/unikraft/</a>) as =
this may be relevant as well</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">However, regarding a MirageOS point =
contact and some specific discussion related to Mirage OS, please hang =
out at the #mirage IRC channel - you must register your Nick, otherwise =
you cannot join. Instructions at</div><div class=3D"">*&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration" =
class=3D"">https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration</a>&nbsp;</div><div=
 class=3D"">*&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://xenproject.org/help/irc/" =
class=3D"">https://xenproject.org/help/irc/</a></div><div class=3D"">Most =
devs are based in Europe, so the best time to be on the IRC channel is =
your morning. You can see who is who at&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://mirage.io/community/" =
class=3D"">https://mirage.io/community/</a></div><div class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Normally starter projects are at&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://canopy.mirage.io/tags/help needed" =
class=3D"">http://canopy.mirage.io/tags/help%20needed</a>, but this list =
has not been updated for some time</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Best Regards</div><div>Lars</div><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 24 =
Oct 2019, at 22:35, Jie Hao Liao &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jhliao@utexas.edu" =
class=3D"">jhliao@utexas.edu</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">For whom may this concern,<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I'm Jay, one of the students at the =
University of Texas in Austin majoring in Computer Science. This fall =
2019 semester I'm taking a&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://github.com/vijay03/cs378-f19" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">Virtualization</a>&nbsp;course for understanding and building =
Hypervisors, Containers, and Unikernels. We would like to work on a =
project related to building features for Unikernels for this =
class.</div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">We're a group of 3 people that'll be contributing to the =
project. We have learned about some different implementations of =
Unikernels, but we did not have any implementation experience for it. We =
have built core components of a working educational JOS hypervisor in =
this class. The deadline for finishing the project is December 12th. =
Could anyone please recommend us a list of possible Unikernel features =
projects for MirageOS or some point-of-contact for finding some good =
starter projects on MirageOS that can last 2 months?</div></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Best,</div><div =
class=3D"">Jie Hao (Jay) Liao</div></div>
_______________________________________________<br =
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href=3D"mailto:MirageOS-devel@lists.xenproject.org" =
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Hi
I just wonder if mirage unikernels are accessible via ssh? 

The older text materials primarily talk about mirageos when used on top. There you can read about conncting to dom0, but what happens then, how to connect to the instances?
Then the newer text seem to use mitageos more when built with solo5. Is it possible to connect to a solo5 microkernel? From what I know the mirageos project also contain the necessary ssh libraries, but I think there had to be some sort of ssh daemon running inside the unikernel?
Could somebody explain a bit more if and how this works?
Thanks
Ben
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Hello,

I hope you are doing well! We are Computer Science Students at the
University of Texas at Austin and are currently enrolled in a
Virtualization course. We have learned about MirageOS in class and one of
our assignments is to contribute to an open source project relating to
virtualization. We were wondering if there are any issues that we could be
assigned to contribute to MirageOS. For context, we have approximately a
month to complete the project and we have minimal experience with the OCaml
language, but we are all upperclassmen, experienced programmers, and of
course willing to learn OCaml. Please let us know if there is anything that
comes to mind or if you have any questions. Thank you!

Sincerely,
Sama Zaki

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Hi Sama,

First, it's great to hear that you learn MirageOS at university and we are
glad to see that you want to participate in a way to our project.

Currently, MirageOS has several tasks and many of them have an
implementation as a Proof Of Concept generally outside the MirageOS
organization. We don't have (yet!) an easy first entry point for users like
you who want to participate in MirageOS. However, the mailing list still is
the best one.

Then, tasks imply different experiences, virtualization, protocols, binary
format, deployement, etc. when we want to write a complete operating
system. So you have in front of you a large choice of what you can do for
MirageOS. If you can share your experience and where you are the most
comfortable, it will help us to give you a specific list of tasks to do.

Finally, I saw that you want to focus on this specific issue:
https://github.com/mirage/mirage/issues/423#issuecomment-547670232

However, this issue is old, and the support of FAT filesystem is not at the
top of our priorities. But a more interesting task (which is pretty close
to what we want) was opened here:
https://github.com/mirage/mirage/issues/694

It consists in having a third step to plug/insert data (like a
cryptographic key) into a produced unikernel and be able to load it at the
runtime. This way will help us a lot, specially to deploy an unikernel
without giving yourself a headache which can be filled with some extra-data=
.

If I start to talk about that, it is precisely because you are limited in
your time to participate in MirageOS (1 month) and this task has already an
implementation which works for UNIX target:
https://github.com/dinosaure/caravan.git

So here is a goal that you might be interested in: fix the support of
caravan with Solo5 and Xen and start to have some useful examples. About
requested experience, it's about the ELF format specially and how to insert
a new section on it. Then, command-line tool and support with MirageOS is
already done in a proper way.

Please feel free to ask us any question you may have. Again, thank you for
being so interested in MirageOS, I hope you will be able to meet this
challenge. Best regards,

Romain Calascibetta

Le mer. 30 oct. 2019 =C3=A0 08:58, Sama Zaki <sama.zaki@utexas.edu> a =C3=
=A9crit :

> Hello,
>
> I hope you are doing well! We are Computer Science Students at the
> University of Texas at Austin and are currently enrolled in a
> Virtualization course. We have learned about MirageOS in class and one of
> our assignments is to contribute to an open source project relating to
> virtualization. We were wondering if there are any issues that we could b=
e
> assigned to contribute to MirageOS. For context, we have approximately a
> month to complete the project and we have minimal experience with the OCa=
ml
> language, but we are all upperclassmen, experienced programmers, and of
> course willing to learn OCaml. Please let us know if there is anything th=
at
> comes to mind or if you have any questions. Thank you!
>
> Sincerely,
> Sama Zaki
>
> CC'd
> Grayson Pike, Simran Sohal, and Jerry Huang
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Sama,<br><br>First, it&#39;s great to hear that you lea=
rn MirageOS at university and we are glad to see that you want to participa=
te in a way to our project.<br><br>Currently, MirageOS has several tasks an=
d many of them have an implementation as a Proof Of Concept generally outsi=
de the MirageOS organization. We don&#39;t have (yet!) an easy first entry =
point for users like you who want to participate in MirageOS. However, the =
mailing list still is the best one.<br><br>Then, tasks imply different expe=
riences, virtualization, protocols, binary format, deployement, etc. when w=
e want to write a complete operating system. So you have in front of you a =
large choice of what you can do for MirageOS. If you can share your experie=
nce and where you are the most comfortable, it will help us to give you a s=
pecific list of tasks to do.<br><br>Finally, I saw that you want to focus o=
n this specific issue:<br><a href=3D"https://github.com/mirage/mirage/issue=
s/423#issuecomment-547670232">https://github.com/mirage/mirage/issues/423#i=
ssuecomment-547670232</a><br><br>However, this issue is old, and the suppor=
t of FAT filesystem is not at the top of our priorities. But a more interes=
ting task (which is pretty close to what we want) was opened here:<br><a hr=
ef=3D"https://github.com/mirage/mirage/issues/694">https://github.com/mirag=
e/mirage/issues/694</a><br><br>It consists in having a third step to plug/i=
nsert data (like a cryptographic key) into a produced unikernel and be able=
 to load it at the runtime. This way will help us a lot, specially to deplo=
y an unikernel without giving yourself a headache which can be filled with =
some extra-data.<br><br>If I start to talk about that, it is precisely beca=
use you are limited in your time to participate in MirageOS (1 month) and t=
his task has already an implementation which works for UNIX target:<br><a h=
ref=3D"https://github.com/dinosaure/caravan.git">https://github.com/dinosau=
re/caravan.git</a><br><br><div>So here is a goal that you might be interest=
ed in: fix the support of caravan with Solo5 and Xen and start to have some=
 useful examples. About requested experience, it&#39;s about the ELF format=
 specially and how to insert a new section on it. Then, command-line tool a=
nd support with MirageOS is already done in a proper way.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Please feel free to ask us any question you may have. Again, thank =
you for being so interested in MirageOS, I hope you will be able to meet th=
is challenge. Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Romain Calascibetta<br=
></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">Le=C2=A0mer. 30 oct. 2019 =C3=A0=C2=A008:58, Sama Zaki &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:sama.zaki@utexas.edu">sama.zaki@utexas.edu</a>&gt; a =C3=A9crit=
=C2=A0:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Hello,<div><br></div><div>I hope you are doing well! We are Comput=
er Science Students at the University of Texas at Austin and are currently=
=C2=A0enrolled in a Virtualization course. We have learned about MirageOS i=
n class and one of our assignments is to contribute to an open source proje=
ct relating to virtualization. We were wondering if there are any issues th=
at we could be assigned to contribute to MirageOS. For context, we have app=
roximately a month to complete the project and we have minimal experience w=
ith the OCaml language, but we are all upperclassmen, experienced programme=
rs, and of course willing to learn OCaml. Please let us know if there is an=
ything that comes to mind or if you have any questions. Thank you!</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Sincerely,</div><div>Sama Zaki</div><div><br></div><div>CC=
&#39;d</div><div>Grayson Pike, Simran Sohal, and Jerry Huang</div></div>
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tinfo/mirageos-devel</a><br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature">Romain Calascibetta - <a href=3D"http://din.osau.re/" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://din.osau.re/</a></div>

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