From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 01 19:22:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 19:22:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WV4GY-0001DL-9D; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 19:22:34 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WV4GX-0001DG-Ay for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 19:22:33 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:4571] by server-5.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 94/08-06049-8F11B335; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 19:22:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396380151!4776542!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.45] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.9 required=7.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 13007 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2014 19:22:31 -0000 Received: from mail-la0-f45.google.com (HELO mail-la0-f45.google.com) (209.85.215.45) by server-4.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Apr 2014 19:22:31 -0000 Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id hr17so7354629lab.18 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:22:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GIKdvHATfL/DG+hv8FU1d7yTVOB+Ukf3jvVXNfjK8TI=; b=c9nQ6d9rbVpQSEdqkTIl5XMUnYVoqwHPM+0x9L/eNjrQ6m6w4/JywuIoSBoA0Ehghl JgXKN2H1QaJyoWXkRPJBlTp+FYjaOG1h5UcXBTsBY46xVvDdoE56SBFF1O0XXhP13mNH whC6iTuVV8rpV28cbJfQTJ/75bGJMBzSROIfw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GIKdvHATfL/DG+hv8FU1d7yTVOB+Ukf3jvVXNfjK8TI=; b=QMaanX3CaOEzWeZClRZxUthQAp4gPydWz0nbXQTNYzI1ssRm3Wi5w2Ns5MfY0fE/Yd +knZrQSJNqg38J+uAgrdV+xDSs7SMsEiXbby5Sb0lw01WeNWXCTJpZbsKxYbEEsDrI1x QpMnypOIUIIZiaoSLmuj19x3TcJHaFhz7K0w84VjAi7ARs8kcLXdkrqOFNL0r6iQP4SP ra2kg2+ujdZJ9XYxHb/QK59O80SuhAsSaXX+diK6YyNtWLQii6dvZJj0bmrIsIzRzntO k8aSdxV9UCjbjL0JuOkU6iknNVq4t8AgNP1iFhsOwn4GS7W5C5DgZGAALZJRLjxF9siA sZRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmj00XjL1dPitmbTUFHPePdLoa6kAq/K18Kq7tYyMwGBXcNbAmNNI3TQdi/X0YSKIgD/47I MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.5.73 with SMTP id q9mr188515laq.69.1396380150704; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.200.8 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Apr 2014 12:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 15:22:30 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Publicity] Interesting article about Software Defined Data Center & Virtualization X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4531813131345638464==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============4531813131345638464== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0122f172dabc4204f6001635 --089e0122f172dabc4204f6001635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 FYI, Article makes the case that server virtualization has plateaued, but that SDDC is where vendors like VMWare have now set their sights. The author makes the case that VMWare is well positioned to extend into the data center. "Additionally, VMware is a software company and, because of this fact, it has no reason to steer or lock customers into specific hardware. That's a distinct advantage over others like Cisco that want to sell you mostly proprietary systems." http://www.networkcomputing.com/data-center/the-software-defined-data-center-potenti/240166880 -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --089e0122f172dabc4204f6001635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FYI,

Article makes the case that server= virtualization has plateaued, but that SDDC is where vendors like VMWare h= ave now set their sights. 

The author makes t= he case that VMWare is well positioned to extend into the data center. = ;

"Additi= onally, VMware is a software company and, because of this fact, it has no r= eason to steer or lock customers into specific hardware. That’s a dis= tinct advantage over others like Cisco that want to sell you mostly proprie= tary systems."  

http://www.networkcompu= ting.com/data-center/the-software-defined-data-center-potenti/240166880=

--
Sarah Conway
PR M= anager
The Linux Foundation
sconway@linuxfoundation.org
(9= 78) 578-5300  Cell
Skype:  sarah.k.conway
--089e0122f172dabc4204f6001635-- --===============4531813131345638464== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============4531813131345638464==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 01 19:22:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 19:22:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WV4GY-0001DL-9D; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 19:22:34 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WV4GX-0001DG-Ay for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 19:22:33 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:4571] by server-5.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 94/08-06049-8F11B335; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 19:22:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396380151!4776542!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.45] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.9 required=7.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 13007 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2014 19:22:31 -0000 Received: from mail-la0-f45.google.com (HELO mail-la0-f45.google.com) (209.85.215.45) by server-4.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Apr 2014 19:22:31 -0000 Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id hr17so7354629lab.18 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:22:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GIKdvHATfL/DG+hv8FU1d7yTVOB+Ukf3jvVXNfjK8TI=; b=c9nQ6d9rbVpQSEdqkTIl5XMUnYVoqwHPM+0x9L/eNjrQ6m6w4/JywuIoSBoA0Ehghl JgXKN2H1QaJyoWXkRPJBlTp+FYjaOG1h5UcXBTsBY46xVvDdoE56SBFF1O0XXhP13mNH whC6iTuVV8rpV28cbJfQTJ/75bGJMBzSROIfw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GIKdvHATfL/DG+hv8FU1d7yTVOB+Ukf3jvVXNfjK8TI=; b=QMaanX3CaOEzWeZClRZxUthQAp4gPydWz0nbXQTNYzI1ssRm3Wi5w2Ns5MfY0fE/Yd +knZrQSJNqg38J+uAgrdV+xDSs7SMsEiXbby5Sb0lw01WeNWXCTJpZbsKxYbEEsDrI1x QpMnypOIUIIZiaoSLmuj19x3TcJHaFhz7K0w84VjAi7ARs8kcLXdkrqOFNL0r6iQP4SP ra2kg2+ujdZJ9XYxHb/QK59O80SuhAsSaXX+diK6YyNtWLQii6dvZJj0bmrIsIzRzntO k8aSdxV9UCjbjL0JuOkU6iknNVq4t8AgNP1iFhsOwn4GS7W5C5DgZGAALZJRLjxF9siA sZRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmj00XjL1dPitmbTUFHPePdLoa6kAq/K18Kq7tYyMwGBXcNbAmNNI3TQdi/X0YSKIgD/47I MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.5.73 with SMTP id q9mr188515laq.69.1396380150704; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.200.8 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Apr 2014 12:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 15:22:30 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Publicity] Interesting article about Software Defined Data Center & Virtualization X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4531813131345638464==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============4531813131345638464== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0122f172dabc4204f6001635 --089e0122f172dabc4204f6001635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 FYI, Article makes the case that server virtualization has plateaued, but that SDDC is where vendors like VMWare have now set their sights. The author makes the case that VMWare is well positioned to extend into the data center. "Additionally, VMware is a software company and, because of this fact, it has no reason to steer or lock customers into specific hardware. That's a distinct advantage over others like Cisco that want to sell you mostly proprietary systems." http://www.networkcomputing.com/data-center/the-software-defined-data-center-potenti/240166880 -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --089e0122f172dabc4204f6001635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FYI,

Article makes the case that server= virtualization has plateaued, but that SDDC is where vendors like VMWare h= ave now set their sights. 

The author makes t= he case that VMWare is well positioned to extend into the data center. = ;

"Additi= onally, VMware is a software company and, because of this fact, it has no r= eason to steer or lock customers into specific hardware. That’s a dis= tinct advantage over others like Cisco that want to sell you mostly proprie= tary systems."  

http://www.networkcompu= ting.com/data-center/the-software-defined-data-center-potenti/240166880=

--
Sarah Conway
PR M= anager
The Linux Foundation
sconway@linuxfoundation.org
(9= 78) 578-5300  Cell
Skype:  sarah.k.conway
--089e0122f172dabc4204f6001635-- --===============4531813131345638464== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============4531813131345638464==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 02 15:29:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:29:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVN6S-0001W8-So; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:29:24 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVN6Q-0001Vv-MI for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:29:22 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:49224] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 65/B2-06539-1DC2C335; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:29:21 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1396452560!6504549!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.217.178] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.8 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19931 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2014 15:29:21 -0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f178.google.com (HELO mail-lb0-f178.google.com) (209.85.217.178) by server-2.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Apr 2014 15:29:21 -0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f178.google.com with SMTP id s7so294283lbd.37 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 08:29:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ovRLUfIPjgx0Xhk543SgKaRj5na14FqJafa7a/wM1nk=; b=xw2skPQmSbboxyV3YJt8qdChGcxBN2pz0U4qfcgPRH2uYyStaafHUCiFPha0mDAnL1 g1asHBg9D2/4LoiHReVNxZieM43/TLEw5SysizvIF1yxPdTvr2OtOoS3Kv1pgyQFNEdw b+pwgubZ0MrGOnZr9M88+ys8MsYAzJIOKZzEhXxYBUrwzOjTlCNVvo/zWPTLmOC+gH2O MxYQMnbXKq4gb5yCaAYz6iJO6YxVfmyGglhGJgYPhOmtEpQk+YJVAq6Cb65qLt/7VVky tT6+hYNjO8f3SNf/Oe4D5f9iQRoXXf1ctVpLRrytePE6dKz9YvrQl7+G60FvGP82H/XR o8fQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.126.7 with SMTP id mu7mr464976lbb.17.1396452560440; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 08:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:29:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 11:29:20 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: avKZrKdrm2mSnrtSLkWsG8CReu8 Message-ID: From: Russ Pavlicek To: Sarah Conway Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Interesting article about Software Defined Data Center & Virtualization X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Right. Virtualization is now a component, rather than the goal, of IT plans. SDDC will continue to heat up. The user communities for hypervisors will continue to become more abstract and indirect (kind of like the user community for glibc). The VMware/Cisco quote highlights the future while seemingly missing the point: the vendor lock-in of the future in the datacenter will be software, not hardware. VMware knows this and has hurried down that road in order to get its piece of that pie. People have asked me what's the difference between the Xen Project hypervisor and those from closed source commercial sources. My reply is that our goal is to provide virtualization capabilities to your solution, regardless of what your cloud looks like or your SDDC architecture. Many vendors get you to use their hypervisor and then pressure you to adopt their version of cloud or SDDC. We don't do that; we want to enable your solution for your datacenter, not squeeze you into our mold. And given the year-to-year changes in both cloud and SDDC, it strikes me as way too early to commit too thoroughly to any one vendor's vision for the future. By staying open and modular, avoiding vendor lock-in, you stay nimble enough to move with the market over time. That message uniformly resonates well with audiences so far. Russ On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Sarah Conway wrote: > FYI, > > Article makes the case that server virtualization has plateaued, but that > SDDC is where vendors like VMWare have now set their sights. > > The author makes the case that VMWare is well positioned to extend into the > data center. > > "Additionally, VMware is a software company and, because of this fact, it > has no reason to steer or lock customers into specific hardware. That's a > distinct advantage over others like Cisco that want to sell you mostly > proprietary systems." > > http://www.networkcomputing.com/data-center/the-software-defined-data-center-potenti/240166880 > > -- > Sarah Conway > PR Manager > The Linux Foundation > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > (978) 578-5300 Cell > Skype: sarah.k.conway > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 02 15:29:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:29:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVN6S-0001W8-So; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:29:24 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVN6Q-0001Vv-MI for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:29:22 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:49224] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 65/B2-06539-1DC2C335; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:29:21 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1396452560!6504549!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.217.178] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.8 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19931 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2014 15:29:21 -0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f178.google.com (HELO mail-lb0-f178.google.com) (209.85.217.178) by server-2.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Apr 2014 15:29:21 -0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f178.google.com with SMTP id s7so294283lbd.37 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 08:29:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ovRLUfIPjgx0Xhk543SgKaRj5na14FqJafa7a/wM1nk=; b=xw2skPQmSbboxyV3YJt8qdChGcxBN2pz0U4qfcgPRH2uYyStaafHUCiFPha0mDAnL1 g1asHBg9D2/4LoiHReVNxZieM43/TLEw5SysizvIF1yxPdTvr2OtOoS3Kv1pgyQFNEdw b+pwgubZ0MrGOnZr9M88+ys8MsYAzJIOKZzEhXxYBUrwzOjTlCNVvo/zWPTLmOC+gH2O MxYQMnbXKq4gb5yCaAYz6iJO6YxVfmyGglhGJgYPhOmtEpQk+YJVAq6Cb65qLt/7VVky tT6+hYNjO8f3SNf/Oe4D5f9iQRoXXf1ctVpLRrytePE6dKz9YvrQl7+G60FvGP82H/XR o8fQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.126.7 with SMTP id mu7mr464976lbb.17.1396452560440; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 08:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:29:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 11:29:20 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: avKZrKdrm2mSnrtSLkWsG8CReu8 Message-ID: From: Russ Pavlicek To: Sarah Conway Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Interesting article about Software Defined Data Center & Virtualization X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Right. Virtualization is now a component, rather than the goal, of IT plans. SDDC will continue to heat up. The user communities for hypervisors will continue to become more abstract and indirect (kind of like the user community for glibc). The VMware/Cisco quote highlights the future while seemingly missing the point: the vendor lock-in of the future in the datacenter will be software, not hardware. VMware knows this and has hurried down that road in order to get its piece of that pie. People have asked me what's the difference between the Xen Project hypervisor and those from closed source commercial sources. My reply is that our goal is to provide virtualization capabilities to your solution, regardless of what your cloud looks like or your SDDC architecture. Many vendors get you to use their hypervisor and then pressure you to adopt their version of cloud or SDDC. We don't do that; we want to enable your solution for your datacenter, not squeeze you into our mold. And given the year-to-year changes in both cloud and SDDC, it strikes me as way too early to commit too thoroughly to any one vendor's vision for the future. By staying open and modular, avoiding vendor lock-in, you stay nimble enough to move with the market over time. That message uniformly resonates well with audiences so far. Russ On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Sarah Conway wrote: > FYI, > > Article makes the case that server virtualization has plateaued, but that > SDDC is where vendors like VMWare have now set their sights. > > The author makes the case that VMWare is well positioned to extend into the > data center. > > "Additionally, VMware is a software company and, because of this fact, it > has no reason to steer or lock customers into specific hardware. That's a > distinct advantage over others like Cisco that want to sell you mostly > proprietary systems." > > http://www.networkcomputing.com/data-center/the-software-defined-data-center-potenti/240166880 > > -- > Sarah Conway > PR Manager > The Linux Foundation > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > (978) 578-5300 Cell > Skype: sarah.k.conway > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 02 15:52:40 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:52:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVNSy-0002vQ-7d; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:52:40 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVNSx-0002vB-52 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:52:39 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:6544] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 16/6F-02781-6423C335; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:52:38 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1396453956!5844136!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16008 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2014 15:52:37 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Apr 2014 15:52:37 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,780,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="117368522" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 02 Apr 2014 15:52:35 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 11:52:35 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WVNSs-0004ac-QO for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 16:52:34 +0100 Message-ID: <533C323F.4070403@eu.citrix.com> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 16:52:31 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: In-Reply-To: X-DLP: MIA1 Subject: Re: [Publicity] Interesting article about Software Defined Data Center & Virtualization X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 04/02/2014 04:29 PM, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > Right. Virtualization is now a component, rather than the goal, of IT > plans. SDDC will continue to heat up. The user communities for > hypervisors will continue to become more abstract and indirect (kind > of like the user community for glibc). > > The VMware/Cisco quote highlights the future while seemingly missing > the point: the vendor lock-in of the future in the datacenter will be > software, not hardware. VMware knows this and has hurried down that > road in order to get its piece of that pie. Yeah, it's pretty disingenuous for VMWare, who have spent their entire corporate lifetime locking people into a hypervisor and then charging high rents, to say "Oh, the advantage of using our SDDC is that we won't lock you in." In fact the opposite is true: the reason they're getting into SDDC is because they *can't* charge high rents for hypervisors anymore, and they're *hoping* to lock you in with SDDC so they can charge high rents again. -George _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 02 15:52:40 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:52:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVNSy-0002vQ-7d; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:52:40 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVNSx-0002vB-52 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:52:39 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:6544] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 16/6F-02781-6423C335; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:52:38 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1396453956!5844136!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16008 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2014 15:52:37 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Apr 2014 15:52:37 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,780,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="117368522" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 02 Apr 2014 15:52:35 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 11:52:35 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WVNSs-0004ac-QO for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 16:52:34 +0100 Message-ID: <533C323F.4070403@eu.citrix.com> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 16:52:31 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: In-Reply-To: X-DLP: MIA1 Subject: Re: [Publicity] Interesting article about Software Defined Data Center & Virtualization X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 04/02/2014 04:29 PM, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > Right. Virtualization is now a component, rather than the goal, of IT > plans. SDDC will continue to heat up. The user communities for > hypervisors will continue to become more abstract and indirect (kind > of like the user community for glibc). > > The VMware/Cisco quote highlights the future while seemingly missing > the point: the vendor lock-in of the future in the datacenter will be > software, not hardware. VMware knows this and has hurried down that > road in order to get its piece of that pie. Yeah, it's pretty disingenuous for VMWare, who have spent their entire corporate lifetime locking people into a hypervisor and then charging high rents, to say "Oh, the advantage of using our SDDC is that we won't lock you in." In fact the opposite is true: the reason they're getting into SDDC is because they *can't* charge high rents for hypervisors anymore, and they're *hoping* to lock you in with SDDC so they can charge high rents again. -George _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 03 14:27:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 14:27:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVic1-0005WG-V0; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 14:27:25 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVic0-0005W0-DK for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 14:27:24 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:20504] by server-16.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 43/65-16986-BCF6D335; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 14:27:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1396535241!6058913!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.48] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.4 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27821 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2014 14:27:22 -0000 Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com (HELO mail-la0-f48.google.com) (209.85.215.48) by server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 3 Apr 2014 14:27:22 -0000 Received: by mail-la0-f48.google.com with SMTP id gf5so1371107lab.7 for ; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 07:27:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=U5p1T+3hllrVVU34JJEEyTcV6yQXSgEi0l6YDw/jJvU=; b=I49+v7l8OooT5z2ppZTWkcj2PnhvmXzNT/vmRQRgEyk3x0AGCaqr7Gf0GVJOtah+Xg wlig3gzE5b4qT3gbuSVZ2ytAm9UKnCfNCLIvS2XoYwU4y6AjO/ifZVAVJByd5+cyy4lj XRCOuUwSpT57MmAR5/n9uH0TTonsywOaKt2Ig= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=U5p1T+3hllrVVU34JJEEyTcV6yQXSgEi0l6YDw/jJvU=; b=aEN+mDvZLrTUo1OrmYszrIWRCelYgDX/V5rYykPJlJfkAlihuVbI8sl6FZur3YQ7+X xGdT45/VfGl/dDZ6KhgTQy3fwuNeN/TV19K8KEjWeXrhFGcUPsJE34COfzL0iz3IpkTh YExz2xqcliOh4NOXvAZ3eemZFr/0BWuax6rf+AvljOHt+R5DnO2MfcWPWL4ObR16doXV gYtAHCWjd/KOzvlhdNYLm5vwnFfdAMzKRmdkHNkZxLeDLFxbq+JJINden67ep3OtiV3A k4GTIQ+x8wwFQEQ6fxHgD9XQavSE26CMrfMW0ERQPPYRf2zE/yZMw4IIv0WxSWgG1vYM yR2g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlQ1sf8Vu5mJY31b6zQEcsq0/qbCyUacPc6eAqPIA0RfBEqjJ88huT99I6rmoiDpYxwybRJ MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.7.97 with SMTP id i1mr2024256laa.36.1396535241610; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 07:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.200.8 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 07:27:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <533C323F.4070403@eu.citrix.com> References: <533C323F.4070403@eu.citrix.com> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 10:27:21 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: George Dunlap Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Interesting article about Software Defined Data Center & Virtualization X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7074138143657169314==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============7074138143657169314== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c27b7afe2a4d04f6243260 --001a11c27b7afe2a4d04f6243260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi George and Russ, I did follow up with the writer suggesting that he catch up on Xen Project, emphasizing an open hypervisor technology as the best way to really avoid lock in. I'll keep you posted. Thanks for sharing your feedback too. Thanks, On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:52 AM, George Dunlap wrote: > On 04/02/2014 04:29 PM, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > >> Right. Virtualization is now a component, rather than the goal, of IT >> plans. SDDC will continue to heat up. The user communities for >> hypervisors will continue to become more abstract and indirect (kind >> of like the user community for glibc). >> >> The VMware/Cisco quote highlights the future while seemingly missing >> the point: the vendor lock-in of the future in the datacenter will be >> software, not hardware. VMware knows this and has hurried down that >> road in order to get its piece of that pie. >> > > Yeah, it's pretty disingenuous for VMWare, who have spent their entire > corporate lifetime locking people into a hypervisor and then charging high > rents, to say "Oh, the advantage of using our SDDC is that we won't lock > you in." > > In fact the opposite is true: the reason they're getting into SDDC is > because they *can't* charge high rents for hypervisors anymore, and they're > *hoping* to lock you in with SDDC so they can charge high rents again. > > -George > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --001a11c27b7afe2a4d04f6243260 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi George and Russ,

I did follow up wit= h the writer suggesting that he catch up on Xen Project, emphasizing an ope= n hypervisor technology as the best way to really avoid lock in.

I'll keep you posted.=A0

Thanks for sharin= g your feedback too.

Thanks,


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at = 11:52 AM, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
On 04/02/2014 04:29 PM, Russ= Pavlicek wrote:
Right. =A0Virtualization is now a component, rather than the goal, of IT plans. SDDC will continue to heat up. =A0The user communities for
hypervisors will continue to become more abstract and indirect (kind
of like the user community for glibc).

The VMware/Cisco quote highlights the future while seemingly missing
the point: the vendor lock-in of the future in the datacenter will be
software, not hardware. =A0VMware knows this and has hurried down that
road in order to get its piece of that pie.

Yeah, it's pretty disingenuous for VMWare, who have spent their entire = corporate lifetime locking people into a hypervisor and then charging high = rents, to say "Oh, the advantage of using our SDDC is that we won'= t lock you in."

In fact the opposite is true: the reason they're getting into SDDC is b= ecause they *can't* charge high rents for hypervisors anymore, and they= 're *hoping* to lock you in with SDDC so they can charge high rents aga= in.

=A0-George


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Sarah Conway
PR Manager
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sconway@linuxfoundation.org
(978) 578-5300 =A0Cell
Skype: =A0sarah.k.conway
--001a11c27b7afe2a4d04f6243260-- --===============7074138143657169314== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============7074138143657169314==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 03 14:27:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 14:27:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVic1-0005WG-V0; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 14:27:25 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVic0-0005W0-DK for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 14:27:24 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:20504] by server-16.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 43/65-16986-BCF6D335; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 14:27:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1396535241!6058913!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.48] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.4 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27821 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2014 14:27:22 -0000 Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com (HELO mail-la0-f48.google.com) (209.85.215.48) by server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 3 Apr 2014 14:27:22 -0000 Received: by mail-la0-f48.google.com with SMTP id gf5so1371107lab.7 for ; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 07:27:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=U5p1T+3hllrVVU34JJEEyTcV6yQXSgEi0l6YDw/jJvU=; b=I49+v7l8OooT5z2ppZTWkcj2PnhvmXzNT/vmRQRgEyk3x0AGCaqr7Gf0GVJOtah+Xg wlig3gzE5b4qT3gbuSVZ2ytAm9UKnCfNCLIvS2XoYwU4y6AjO/ifZVAVJByd5+cyy4lj XRCOuUwSpT57MmAR5/n9uH0TTonsywOaKt2Ig= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=U5p1T+3hllrVVU34JJEEyTcV6yQXSgEi0l6YDw/jJvU=; b=aEN+mDvZLrTUo1OrmYszrIWRCelYgDX/V5rYykPJlJfkAlihuVbI8sl6FZur3YQ7+X xGdT45/VfGl/dDZ6KhgTQy3fwuNeN/TV19K8KEjWeXrhFGcUPsJE34COfzL0iz3IpkTh YExz2xqcliOh4NOXvAZ3eemZFr/0BWuax6rf+AvljOHt+R5DnO2MfcWPWL4ObR16doXV gYtAHCWjd/KOzvlhdNYLm5vwnFfdAMzKRmdkHNkZxLeDLFxbq+JJINden67ep3OtiV3A k4GTIQ+x8wwFQEQ6fxHgD9XQavSE26CMrfMW0ERQPPYRf2zE/yZMw4IIv0WxSWgG1vYM yR2g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlQ1sf8Vu5mJY31b6zQEcsq0/qbCyUacPc6eAqPIA0RfBEqjJ88huT99I6rmoiDpYxwybRJ MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.7.97 with SMTP id i1mr2024256laa.36.1396535241610; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 07:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.200.8 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 07:27:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <533C323F.4070403@eu.citrix.com> References: <533C323F.4070403@eu.citrix.com> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 10:27:21 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: George Dunlap Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Interesting article about Software Defined Data Center & Virtualization X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7074138143657169314==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============7074138143657169314== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c27b7afe2a4d04f6243260 --001a11c27b7afe2a4d04f6243260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi George and Russ, I did follow up with the writer suggesting that he catch up on Xen Project, emphasizing an open hypervisor technology as the best way to really avoid lock in. I'll keep you posted. Thanks for sharing your feedback too. Thanks, On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:52 AM, George Dunlap wrote: > On 04/02/2014 04:29 PM, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > >> Right. Virtualization is now a component, rather than the goal, of IT >> plans. SDDC will continue to heat up. The user communities for >> hypervisors will continue to become more abstract and indirect (kind >> of like the user community for glibc). >> >> The VMware/Cisco quote highlights the future while seemingly missing >> the point: the vendor lock-in of the future in the datacenter will be >> software, not hardware. VMware knows this and has hurried down that >> road in order to get its piece of that pie. >> > > Yeah, it's pretty disingenuous for VMWare, who have spent their entire > corporate lifetime locking people into a hypervisor and then charging high > rents, to say "Oh, the advantage of using our SDDC is that we won't lock > you in." > > In fact the opposite is true: the reason they're getting into SDDC is > because they *can't* charge high rents for hypervisors anymore, and they're > *hoping* to lock you in with SDDC so they can charge high rents again. > > -George > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --001a11c27b7afe2a4d04f6243260 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi George and Russ,

I did follow up wit= h the writer suggesting that he catch up on Xen Project, emphasizing an ope= n hypervisor technology as the best way to really avoid lock in.

I'll keep you posted.=A0

Thanks for sharin= g your feedback too.

Thanks,


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at = 11:52 AM, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
On 04/02/2014 04:29 PM, Russ= Pavlicek wrote:
Right. =A0Virtualization is now a component, rather than the goal, of IT plans. SDDC will continue to heat up. =A0The user communities for
hypervisors will continue to become more abstract and indirect (kind
of like the user community for glibc).

The VMware/Cisco quote highlights the future while seemingly missing
the point: the vendor lock-in of the future in the datacenter will be
software, not hardware. =A0VMware knows this and has hurried down that
road in order to get its piece of that pie.

Yeah, it's pretty disingenuous for VMWare, who have spent their entire = corporate lifetime locking people into a hypervisor and then charging high = rents, to say "Oh, the advantage of using our SDDC is that we won'= t lock you in."

In fact the opposite is true: the reason they're getting into SDDC is b= ecause they *can't* charge high rents for hypervisors anymore, and they= 're *hoping* to lock you in with SDDC so they can charge high rents aga= in.

=A0-George


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If not, I think we should, and it would be nice to do it during the coming week, or it will be too late. So, I guess Russ can easily cover for that _but_ it would be truly awesome if someone for GlobalLogic could chime in and provide your view, tell us about your experience attending the event and giving a talk about Xen there. This is something we often try to do: after an event, we ask people attending for the first time or so to write a report for our blog, to get something as "fresh" as possible. :-) So, Artem, Alex... Are you up for this? We don't need anything special, just a (short) blog-ified version of your presentation, with the only addition of your view on the event (how was it? how you found it useful? how was your talk received? etc). These are a few examples of what I'm talking about: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2013/11/01/my-first-xen-developer-summit-expe= ctations-vs-reality/ http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2013/05/28/event-report-xen-hackathon-2013/ Let us know what you think. Thanks in advance and Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-LhbRrzfdtLCzlX3HF/Zz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlM+WcUACgkQk4XaBE3IOsQOOwCgnr7dpljyO6FhoVLz32XRfrMm 9FAAmwWr35qeh+Z6QcE7kbo50OdeH8/G =Tc2R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-LhbRrzfdtLCzlX3HF/Zz-- --===============1717044682304020843== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============1717044682304020843==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Apr 04 07:06:00 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 07:06:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVyCN-0005OK-FO; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 07:05:59 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVyCL-0005OF-LW for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 07:05:57 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:28668] by server-9.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 40/29-04350-4D95E335; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 07:05:56 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396595144!5424587!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNjg4NjkgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6177 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2014 07:05:47 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 4 Apr 2014 07:05:47 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,793,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="117922625" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2014 07:05:43 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Fri, 4 Apr 2014 03:05:42 -0400 Message-ID: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> From: Dario Faggioli To: Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 09:05:41 +0200 Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "artem.mygaiev@globallogic.com" , Alex Agizim Subject: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1717044682304020843==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============1717044682304020843== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-LhbRrzfdtLCzlX3HF/Zz" --=-LhbRrzfdtLCzlX3HF/Zz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, I don't think we blogged about how the LF collab summit went, did we? If not, I think we should, and it would be nice to do it during the coming week, or it will be too late. So, I guess Russ can easily cover for that _but_ it would be truly awesome if someone for GlobalLogic could chime in and provide your view, tell us about your experience attending the event and giving a talk about Xen there. This is something we often try to do: after an event, we ask people attending for the first time or so to write a report for our blog, to get something as "fresh" as possible. :-) So, Artem, Alex... Are you up for this? We don't need anything special, just a (short) blog-ified version of your presentation, with the only addition of your view on the event (how was it? how you found it useful? how was your talk received? etc). These are a few examples of what I'm talking about: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2013/11/01/my-first-xen-developer-summit-expe= ctations-vs-reality/ http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2013/05/28/event-report-xen-hackathon-2013/ Let us know what you think. Thanks in advance and Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-LhbRrzfdtLCzlX3HF/Zz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlM+WcUACgkQk4XaBE3IOsQOOwCgnr7dpljyO6FhoVLz32XRfrMm 9FAAmwWr35qeh+Z6QcE7kbo50OdeH8/G =Tc2R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-LhbRrzfdtLCzlX3HF/Zz-- --===============1717044682304020843== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============1717044682304020843==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Apr 04 07:16:40 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 07:16:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVyMh-0005zI-7p; 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d="asc'?scan'208";a="116720245" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2014 07:44:29 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Fri, 4 Apr 2014 03:44:28 -0400 Message-ID: <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> From: Dario Faggioli To: Alex Agizim Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 09:44:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: Gunn Emily , "artem.mygaiev@globallogic.com" , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7546499075975173493==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============7546499075975173493== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Zp8B25CBirZtmSO99FVq" --=-Zp8B25CBirZtmSO99FVq Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 10:11 +0300, Alex Agizim wrote: > Hi Dario, >=20 Hi, > Emily ( GlobalLogic PR manager), Sara and myself working on blog from > collab summit. >=20 Wow, wonderful then! Where were you planning to publish it? Our blog.xen.org? Some space of your own? If the latter, can we reblog it on blog.xen.org after a day or so? Thanks and Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-Zp8B25CBirZtmSO99FVq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlM+YtsACgkQk4XaBE3IOsS1sgCfVubFt7fp6J0fGHLLtv9Pf+RU vQ4An31hdZUIsGwLL/lnX703qtII27OD =Usxi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Zp8B25CBirZtmSO99FVq-- --===============7546499075975173493== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============7546499075975173493==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Apr 04 07:44:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 07:44:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVyni-0007nq-TY; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 07:44:34 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVynh-0007nl-6Q for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 07:44:33 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:51357] by server-1.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 7A/EE-10259-0E26E335; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 07:44:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396597470!5441446!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6139 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2014 07:44:31 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-15.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 4 Apr 2014 07:44:31 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,793,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="116720245" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2014 07:44:29 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Fri, 4 Apr 2014 03:44:28 -0400 Message-ID: <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> From: Dario Faggioli To: Alex Agizim Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 09:44:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: Gunn Emily , "artem.mygaiev@globallogic.com" , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7546499075975173493==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============7546499075975173493== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Zp8B25CBirZtmSO99FVq" --=-Zp8B25CBirZtmSO99FVq Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 10:11 +0300, Alex Agizim wrote: > Hi Dario, >=20 Hi, > Emily ( GlobalLogic PR manager), Sara and myself working on blog from > collab summit. >=20 Wow, wonderful then! Where were you planning to publish it? Our blog.xen.org? Some space of your own? If the latter, can we reblog it on blog.xen.org after a day or so? Thanks and Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-Zp8B25CBirZtmSO99FVq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlM+YtsACgkQk4XaBE3IOsS1sgCfVubFt7fp6J0fGHLLtv9Pf+RU vQ4An31hdZUIsGwLL/lnX703qtII27OD =Usxi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Zp8B25CBirZtmSO99FVq-- --===============7546499075975173493== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============7546499075975173493==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Apr 04 08:41:57 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 08:41:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVzhE-0004PE-Lq; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 08:41:56 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVzhD-0004P2-3S for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 08:41:55 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:2201] by server-5.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id C5/FC-06049-2507E335; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 08:41:54 +0000 X-Env-Sender: anil@recoil.org X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396600913!5451049!1 X-Originating-IP: [89.16.177.154] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 22530 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2014 08:41:53 -0000 Received: from recoil.dh.bytemark.co.uk (HELO dark.recoil.org) (89.16.177.154) by server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2014 08:41:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 31744 invoked by uid 634); 4 Apr 2014 08:41:53 -0000 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED X-Spam-Check-By: dark.recoil.org Received: from Unknown (HELO [192.168.0.243]) (2.26.98.251) (smtp-auth username remote@recoil.org, mechanism cram-md5) by dark.recoil.org (qpsmtpd/0.84) with ESMTPA; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 09:41:48 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Anil Madhavapeddy Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 09:41:46 +0100 Message-Id: References: <20140401225803.94D5F2A27DE@pepper.bp> To: Publicity list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on dark.recoil.org Cc: Thomas Gazagnaire , Richard Mortier , David Scott Subject: [Publicity] Fwd: Session proposal accepted for OSCON 2014 X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Just an FYI that our OSCon proposal on Nymote (pasted below) got accepted i= nto OSCon. We're aiming to demonstrate the MirageOS networking stack runni= ng on a Cubieboard2/Cubietruck and Xen/ARM at the session, so this should h= elp publicise the ARM port more widely. Abstract follows: The Mirage OS is an open-source library operating system that compiles code= written in the OCaml functional language into a variety of hardware backen= ds, most notably specialized unikernels that run directly on the Xen hyperv= isor. Mirage is particularly useful for building safe, reliable OS componen= ts such as storage or networked daemons. Since the release of Mirage 1.0 in December 2013, we=92ve been using it to = self-host our personal Internet presences. Instead of having to manage comp= lex deployments such as a LAMP stack (with the associated security headache= s), Mirage offers the opportunity to =93compile your own cloud=94 from a se= t of protocol libraries. This is an educational experience that you miss ou= t on if using a hosted PaaS, and you also gain the freedom of running your = own infrastructure and federating via open protocols such as XMPP. In this talk, I=92ll walk you through how my own homepage infrastructure wo= rks, and how to replicate it yourself to regain control of your Internet pr= esence. The DNS and HTTP servers run as separate unikernels on the cloud, a= nd are coordinated via the Irminsule storage stack (which uses Git as its c= ommunications protocol). The deployment simply uses the Travis continuous i= ntegration tool to commit the entire kernel to Git (e.g. https://github.com= /mirage/mirage-www-deployment), so you can get started very quickly using L= inux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD or MacOS X (we=92ll provide a Vagrant virtual machin= e if you=92re running Windows). -anil Begin forwarded message: > From: Shirley Bailes > Subject: Session proposal accepted for OSCON 2014 > Date: 2 April 2014 06:58:03 BST > To: Anil Madhavapeddy > = > (To respond to this message, use the web page link at the > bottom.) > = > We are pleased to accept the following proposal for OSCON 2014. > = > * Nymote: git your own cloud here > = > It has been scheduled for 11:00 on 24 Jul 2014. > = > No April Fools' jokes here. Your OSCON proposal is accepted! > = > Please confirm that you have received this acceptance and can > deliver your proposed session at OSCON, Sunday July 20 - Thursday > July 24, 2014 in Portland, Oregon by clicking on the link at the > bottom of this email. > = > *NOTE:* Keep in mind that TUTORIALS are on Sunday and Monday this > year, with SESSIONS on Tuesday through Thursday. For any > scheduling questions, if there is something you'd like to > add/remove, update/edit on your proposal, or for anything else, > please email Shirley: speakers@oreilly.com. > = > *REMEMBER:* Speakers receive a complimentary 5-Day pass to OSCON > (this includes tutorials as well as conference sessions.) You > will be registered for the event. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Apr 04 08:41:57 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 08:41:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVzhE-0004PE-Lq; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 08:41:56 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WVzhD-0004P2-3S for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 08:41:55 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:2201] by server-5.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id C5/FC-06049-2507E335; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 08:41:54 +0000 X-Env-Sender: anil@recoil.org X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396600913!5451049!1 X-Originating-IP: [89.16.177.154] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 22530 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2014 08:41:53 -0000 Received: from recoil.dh.bytemark.co.uk (HELO dark.recoil.org) (89.16.177.154) by server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2014 08:41:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 31744 invoked by uid 634); 4 Apr 2014 08:41:53 -0000 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED X-Spam-Check-By: dark.recoil.org Received: from Unknown (HELO [192.168.0.243]) (2.26.98.251) (smtp-auth username remote@recoil.org, mechanism cram-md5) by dark.recoil.org (qpsmtpd/0.84) with ESMTPA; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 09:41:48 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Anil Madhavapeddy Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 09:41:46 +0100 Message-Id: References: <20140401225803.94D5F2A27DE@pepper.bp> To: Publicity list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on dark.recoil.org Cc: Thomas Gazagnaire , Richard Mortier , David Scott Subject: [Publicity] Fwd: Session proposal accepted for OSCON 2014 X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Just an FYI that our OSCon proposal on Nymote (pasted below) got accepted i= nto OSCon. We're aiming to demonstrate the MirageOS networking stack runni= ng on a Cubieboard2/Cubietruck and Xen/ARM at the session, so this should h= elp publicise the ARM port more widely. Abstract follows: The Mirage OS is an open-source library operating system that compiles code= written in the OCaml functional language into a variety of hardware backen= ds, most notably specialized unikernels that run directly on the Xen hyperv= isor. Mirage is particularly useful for building safe, reliable OS componen= ts such as storage or networked daemons. Since the release of Mirage 1.0 in December 2013, we=92ve been using it to = self-host our personal Internet presences. Instead of having to manage comp= lex deployments such as a LAMP stack (with the associated security headache= s), Mirage offers the opportunity to =93compile your own cloud=94 from a se= t of protocol libraries. This is an educational experience that you miss ou= t on if using a hosted PaaS, and you also gain the freedom of running your = own infrastructure and federating via open protocols such as XMPP. In this talk, I=92ll walk you through how my own homepage infrastructure wo= rks, and how to replicate it yourself to regain control of your Internet pr= esence. The DNS and HTTP servers run as separate unikernels on the cloud, a= nd are coordinated via the Irminsule storage stack (which uses Git as its c= ommunications protocol). The deployment simply uses the Travis continuous i= ntegration tool to commit the entire kernel to Git (e.g. https://github.com= /mirage/mirage-www-deployment), so you can get started very quickly using L= inux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD or MacOS X (we=92ll provide a Vagrant virtual machin= e if you=92re running Windows). -anil Begin forwarded message: > From: Shirley Bailes > Subject: Session proposal accepted for OSCON 2014 > Date: 2 April 2014 06:58:03 BST > To: Anil Madhavapeddy > = > (To respond to this message, use the web page link at the > bottom.) > = > We are pleased to accept the following proposal for OSCON 2014. > = > * Nymote: git your own cloud here > = > It has been scheduled for 11:00 on 24 Jul 2014. > = > No April Fools' jokes here. Your OSCON proposal is accepted! > = > Please confirm that you have received this acceptance and can > deliver your proposed session at OSCON, Sunday July 20 - Thursday > July 24, 2014 in Portland, Oregon by clicking on the link at the > bottom of this email. > = > *NOTE:* Keep in mind that TUTORIALS are on Sunday and Monday this > year, with SESSIONS on Tuesday through Thursday. For any > scheduling questions, if there is something you'd like to > add/remove, update/edit on your proposal, or for anything else, > please email Shirley: speakers@oreilly.com. > = > *REMEMBER:* Speakers receive a complimentary 5-Day pass to OSCON > (this includes tutorials as well as conference sessions.) You > will be registered for the event. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Apr 04 10:30:37 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:30:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WW1OP-0003wx-5U; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:30:37 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WW1ON-0003wp-W5 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:30:36 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:55143] by server-8.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 94/F9-11310-BC98E335; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:30:35 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396607424!5480592!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.45] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.9 required=7.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: ,async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNDg2NzcgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 29153 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2014 10:30:24 -0000 Received: from mail-la0-f45.google.com (HELO mail-la0-f45.google.com) (209.85.215.45) by server-9.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 4 Apr 2014 10:30:24 -0000 Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id hr17so2347336lab.32 for ; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 03:30:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=tCxY80htZuiAIeq9L6zcrJ1qmlVjOf5nd8VsNOBpCcY=; b=FUw4hgPlxVn6bdzaRz4WcHMPUSebgEDd98OjYduRn82euiCKD6RlC1XmdloVWo5ixh KpYsLI3YOV15OvaBBHGt1iBOzrZYqKxOts4i2/TxUIFNv8sivQZr5H8F4XuI+2mrvnqC C9wCQDVVO1TvmPCZgiDQ5QgF8YhPhw1n8ob3I= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=tCxY80htZuiAIeq9L6zcrJ1qmlVjOf5nd8VsNOBpCcY=; b=SY/+kIeS7Pu2Qzt5FNLUmPsb4wyy2OnG9ZFCYXKc0WpED4eyfLdqgcqjjwr+65W3Gz jY1EslX6A7570mCwmtN5YTFDJqVDkt0l0LwBT/aJV/EmEKrRcIIT8nhvoo/bmsnhCGjt LbNdgLzby5OYAQqP3OacK5H20wsWSMMLGsIGIBweKzvizmBuSv+If1KYfIThGHMoqA5D o1j+42XgVYGMwUu5B8oml2skaRoYmuUGnUGunV3UAK/tnYjspe9wpESshjte/dKiR8iE pZSXdCcm/5PPmYLZnvKnhHZlXWCWgNLKrLdA9oXy5re1xeF7dXfS8cyInkWlVlSC9KXB tXBQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlHe0PGy6wolrEutntrx4o0Z4ixi+gWMhQU1Jl9SyC2wJMMObhMBYANCj2tQ/lWnbalYv+T MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.52.104 with SMTP id s8mr7904875lbo.7.1396607424298; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 03:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.200.8 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Apr 2014 03:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.200.8 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Apr 2014 03:30:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 06:30:23 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: Dario Faggioli Cc: Gunn Emily , "artem.mygaiev@globallogic.com" , Alex Agizim , publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5549947081806235452==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============5549947081806235452== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3f0206a92fc04f635012e --001a11c3f0206a92fc04f635012e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It is going to be posted on Linux.com and we can repost it on Xen's blog too. Thanks. On Apr 4, 2014 3:44 AM, "Dario Faggioli" wrote: > On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 10:11 +0300, Alex Agizim wrote: > > Hi Dario, > > > Hi, > > > Emily ( GlobalLogic PR manager), Sara and myself working on blog from > > collab summit. > > > Wow, wonderful then! Where were you planning to publish it? Our > blog.xen.org? Some space of your own? If the latter, can we reblog it on > blog.xen.org after a day or so? > > Thanks and Regards, > Dario > > -- > <> (Raistlin Majere) > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli > Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > --001a11c3f0206a92fc04f635012e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It is going to be posted on Linux.com and we can repost it o= n Xen's blog too.

Thanks.

On Apr 4, 2014 3:44 AM, "Dario Faggioli&quo= t; <dario.faggioli@citrix.c= om> wrote:
On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 10:11 +0300, Alex Agizim wrote:
> Hi Dario,
>
Hi,

> Emily ( GlobalLogic PR manager), Sara and myself working on blog from<= br> > collab summit.
>
Wow, wonderful then! Where were you planning to publish it? Our
blog.xen.org? Some sp= ace of your own? If the latter, can we reblog it on
blog.xen.org after a = day or so?

Thanks and Regards,
Dario

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Thanks. On Apr 4, 2014 3:44 AM, "Dario Faggioli" wrote: > On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 10:11 +0300, Alex Agizim wrote: > > Hi Dario, > > > Hi, > > > Emily ( GlobalLogic PR manager), Sara and myself working on blog from > > collab summit. > > > Wow, wonderful then! Where were you planning to publish it? Our > blog.xen.org? Some space of your own? If the latter, can we reblog it on > blog.xen.org after a day or so? > > Thanks and Regards, > Dario > > -- > <> (Raistlin Majere) > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli > Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > --001a11c3f0206a92fc04f635012e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It is going to be posted on Linux.com and we can repost it o= n Xen's blog too.

Thanks.

On Apr 4, 2014 3:44 AM, "Dario Faggioli&quo= t; <dario.faggioli@citrix.c= om> wrote:
On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 10:11 +0300, Alex Agizim wrote:
> Hi Dario,
>
Hi,

> Emily ( GlobalLogic PR manager), Sara and myself working on blog from<= br> > collab summit.
>
Wow, wonderful then! Where were you planning to publish it? Our
blog.xen.org? Some sp= ace of your own? If the latter, can we reblog it on
blog.xen.org after a = day or so?

Thanks and Regards,
Dario

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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE That's fantastic! Congratulations! On Fri, 4 Apr 2014, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: > Just an FYI that our OSCon proposal on Nymote (pasted below) got accepted= into OSCon. We're aiming to demonstrate the MirageOS networking stack run= ning on a Cubieboard2/Cubietruck and Xen/ARM at the session, so this should= help publicise the ARM port more widely. >=20 > Abstract follows: > The Mirage OS is an open-source library operating system that compiles co= de written in the OCaml functional language into a variety of hardware back= ends, most notably specialized unikernels that run directly on the Xen hype= rvisor. Mirage is particularly useful for building safe, reliable OS compon= ents such as storage or networked daemons. >=20 > Since the release of Mirage 1.0 in December 2013, we=E2=80=99ve been usin= g it to self-host our personal Internet presences. Instead of having to man= age complex deployments such as a LAMP stack (with the associated security = headaches), Mirage offers the opportunity to =E2=80=9Ccompile your own clou= d=E2=80=9D from a set of protocol libraries. This is an educational experie= nce that you miss out on if using a hosted PaaS, and you also gain the free= dom of running your own infrastructure and federating via open protocols su= ch as XMPP. >=20 > In this talk, I=E2=80=99ll walk you through how my own homepage infrastru= cture works, and how to replicate it yourself to regain control of your Int= ernet presence. The DNS and HTTP servers run as separate unikernels on the = cloud, and are coordinated via the Irminsule storage stack (which uses Git = as its communications protocol). The deployment simply uses the Travis cont= inuous integration tool to commit the entire kernel to Git (e.g. https://gi= thub.com/mirage/mirage-www-deployment), so you can get started very quickly= using Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD or MacOS X (we=E2=80=99ll provide a Vagrant = virtual machine if you=E2=80=99re running Windows). >=20 > -anil >=20 > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > > From: Shirley Bailes > > Subject: Session proposal accepted for OSCON 2014 > > Date: 2 April 2014 06:58:03 BST > > To: Anil Madhavapeddy > >=20 > > (To respond to this message, use the web page link at the > > bottom.) > >=20 > > We are pleased to accept the following proposal for OSCON 2014. > >=20 > > * Nymote: git your own cloud here > >=20 > > It has been scheduled for 11:00 on 24 Jul 2014. > >=20 > > No April Fools' jokes here. Your OSCON proposal is accepted! > >=20 > > Please confirm that you have received this acceptance and can > > deliver your proposed session at OSCON, Sunday July 20 - Thursday > > July 24, 2014 in Portland, Oregon by clicking on the link at the > > bottom of this email. > >=20 > > *NOTE:* Keep in mind that TUTORIALS are on Sunday and Monday this > > year, with SESSIONS on Tuesday through Thursday. For any > > scheduling questions, if there is something you'd like to > > add/remove, update/edit on your proposal, or for anything else, > > please email Shirley: speakers@oreilly.com. > >=20 > > *REMEMBER:* Speakers receive a complimentary 5-Day pass to OSCON > > (this includes tutorials as well as conference sessions.) You > > will be registered for the event. >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >=20 --1342847746-1617676655-1396608272=:9060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --1342847746-1617676655-1396608272=:9060-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Apr 04 10:44:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:44:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WW1c1-00051D-Rg; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:44:41 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WW1c0-000515-7w for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:44:40 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:19297] by server-11.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 58/BC-30804-71D8E335; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:44:39 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396608277!5452084!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19987 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2014 10:44:38 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-4.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 4 Apr 2014 10:44:38 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,794,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="117964783" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2014 10:44:36 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Fri, 4 Apr 2014 06:44:36 -0400 Received: from kaball.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.59]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WW1bw-0007E4-0V; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 11:44:36 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 11:44:32 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Anil Madhavapeddy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20140401225803.94D5F2A27DE@pepper.bp> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1342847746-1617676655-1396608272=:9060" X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Richard Mortier , Thomas Gazagnaire , David Scott , Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Fwd: Session proposal accepted for OSCON 2014 X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --1342847746-1617676655-1396608272=:9060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE That's fantastic! Congratulations! On Fri, 4 Apr 2014, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: > Just an FYI that our OSCon proposal on Nymote (pasted below) got accepted= into OSCon. We're aiming to demonstrate the MirageOS networking stack run= ning on a Cubieboard2/Cubietruck and Xen/ARM at the session, so this should= help publicise the ARM port more widely. >=20 > Abstract follows: > The Mirage OS is an open-source library operating system that compiles co= de written in the OCaml functional language into a variety of hardware back= ends, most notably specialized unikernels that run directly on the Xen hype= rvisor. Mirage is particularly useful for building safe, reliable OS compon= ents such as storage or networked daemons. >=20 > Since the release of Mirage 1.0 in December 2013, we=E2=80=99ve been usin= g it to self-host our personal Internet presences. Instead of having to man= age complex deployments such as a LAMP stack (with the associated security = headaches), Mirage offers the opportunity to =E2=80=9Ccompile your own clou= d=E2=80=9D from a set of protocol libraries. This is an educational experie= nce that you miss out on if using a hosted PaaS, and you also gain the free= dom of running your own infrastructure and federating via open protocols su= ch as XMPP. >=20 > In this talk, I=E2=80=99ll walk you through how my own homepage infrastru= cture works, and how to replicate it yourself to regain control of your Int= ernet presence. The DNS and HTTP servers run as separate unikernels on the = cloud, and are coordinated via the Irminsule storage stack (which uses Git = as its communications protocol). The deployment simply uses the Travis cont= inuous integration tool to commit the entire kernel to Git (e.g. https://gi= thub.com/mirage/mirage-www-deployment), so you can get started very quickly= using Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD or MacOS X (we=E2=80=99ll provide a Vagrant = virtual machine if you=E2=80=99re running Windows). >=20 > -anil >=20 > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > > From: Shirley Bailes > > Subject: Session proposal accepted for OSCON 2014 > > Date: 2 April 2014 06:58:03 BST > > To: Anil Madhavapeddy > >=20 > > (To respond to this message, use the web page link at the > > bottom.) > >=20 > > We are pleased to accept the following proposal for OSCON 2014. > >=20 > > * Nymote: git your own cloud here > >=20 > > It has been scheduled for 11:00 on 24 Jul 2014. > >=20 > > No April Fools' jokes here. Your OSCON proposal is accepted! > >=20 > > Please confirm that you have received this acceptance and can > > deliver your proposed session at OSCON, Sunday July 20 - Thursday > > July 24, 2014 in Portland, Oregon by clicking on the link at the > > bottom of this email. > >=20 > > *NOTE:* Keep in mind that TUTORIALS are on Sunday and Monday this > > year, with SESSIONS on Tuesday through Thursday. For any > > scheduling questions, if there is something you'd like to > > add/remove, update/edit on your proposal, or for anything else, > > please email Shirley: speakers@oreilly.com. > >=20 > > *REMEMBER:* Speakers receive a complimentary 5-Day pass to OSCON > > (this includes tutorials as well as conference sessions.) You > > will be registered for the event. >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >=20 --1342847746-1617676655-1396608272=:9060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --1342847746-1617676655-1396608272=:9060-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Apr 04 15:27:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 15:27:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WW61f-0001aR-Rp; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 15:27:27 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WW61d-0001Zp-RE for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 15:27:26 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:32063] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 6A/D0-06539-D5FCE335; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 15:27:25 +0000 X-Env-Sender: jennifer@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1396625242!6974362!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.217.179] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.2 required=7.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 10355 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2014 15:27:22 -0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f179.google.com (HELO mail-lb0-f179.google.com) (209.85.217.179) by server-16.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 4 Apr 2014 15:27:22 -0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f179.google.com with SMTP id p9so2553749lbv.24 for ; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 08:27:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XgXSJZ47HeRuJAux9CvrehRqVTr0p4Y53MR3Q0rMXw0=; b=Ahz7RoZz1oQHXjEDIBhWYVncRMbffI3dIfqn04Xib1/AF4qOdI+NuXsETm1nBIzo+e Mf746QZsQxPgf1MWeIT7lP5V+0jDzNEKlVmwJ5ymQEGDN+b4uiEumIANeDacBvCMp6W3 XX/iv/JGiaTsNLvHBletcqUVX1JPE24hPVtXo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XgXSJZ47HeRuJAux9CvrehRqVTr0p4Y53MR3Q0rMXw0=; b=c4ROXLMGq6DH2tNszDzZbjE2PnZLcWALeZJbmEDB6zkWRdduHagfUh8CzIjvSr3HFe EU85olx/V+3SvknEJMVyLGipOExZ/sXfHOTjzmlNiuWL0E0KrnIjHSQm3IXwX1Of0bDs eyk9i5inKfvx43yiVMgB9sPDiW2WZS23VF/MXTSNbd3TwE5mTCbtb8YtcNLJQfJbHToh 6gIY/t3r2P9N4CBkWakMHk/Uji8OEVHTTudxg6UOfgNvTMZh9C+KPWD9xTYbHAEW7k7g ISLx/0VGMni4cAg1Zz26+88tVgX2Hk+3Fstu7iOouIvxWr1B4yUiFaQZYWk+EkBimCC1 BxEA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk83zlH+hwxzerbHbEHuhNneGuBLRo5UWRSoYgmLCH1UBVHwfoaaxppLk9asAph17vOg21l MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.150.233 with SMTP id ul9mr8905182lbb.2.1396625241743; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 08:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.151.9 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Apr 2014 08:27:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20140401225803.94D5F2A27DE@pepper.bp> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 08:27:21 -0700 Message-ID: From: Jennifer Cloer To: Stefano Stabellini Cc: Thomas Gazagnaire , Richard Mortier , Publicity list , David Scott Subject: Re: [Publicity] Fwd: Session proposal accepted for OSCON 2014 X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1206517124364918720==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============1206517124364918720== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b342f6c6b304404f6392763 --047d7b342f6c6b304404f6392763 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Congratulations! On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Stefano Stabellini < stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote: > That's fantastic! Congratulations! > > On Fri, 4 Apr 2014, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: > > Just an FYI that our OSCon proposal on Nymote (pasted below) got > accepted into OSCon. We're aiming to demonstrate the MirageOS networking > stack running on a Cubieboard2/Cubietruck and Xen/ARM at the session, so > this should help publicise the ARM port more widely. > > > > Abstract follows: > > The Mirage OS is an open-source library operating system that compiles > code written in the OCaml functional language into a variety of hardware > backends, most notably specialized unikernels that run directly on the Xen > hypervisor. Mirage is particularly useful for building safe, reliable OS > components such as storage or networked daemons. > > > > Since the release of Mirage 1.0 in December 2013, we've been using it to > self-host our personal Internet presences. Instead of having to manage > complex deployments such as a LAMP stack (with the associated security > headaches), Mirage offers the opportunity to "compile your own cloud" from > a set of protocol libraries. This is an educational experience that you > miss out on if using a hosted PaaS, and you also gain the freedom of > running your own infrastructure and federating via open protocols such as > XMPP. > > > > In this talk, I'll walk you through how my own homepage infrastructure > works, and how to replicate it yourself to regain control of your Internet > presence. The DNS and HTTP servers run as separate unikernels on the cloud, > and are coordinated via the Irminsule storage stack (which uses Git as its > communications protocol). The deployment simply uses the Travis continuous > integration tool to commit the entire kernel to Git (e.g. > https://github.com/mirage/mirage-www-deployment), so you can get started > very quickly using Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD or MacOS X (we'll provide a > Vagrant virtual machine if you're running Windows). > > > > -anil > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > From: Shirley Bailes > > > Subject: Session proposal accepted for OSCON 2014 > > > Date: 2 April 2014 06:58:03 BST > > > To: Anil Madhavapeddy > > > > > > (To respond to this message, use the web page link at the > > > bottom.) > > > > > > We are pleased to accept the following proposal for OSCON 2014. > > > > > > * Nymote: git your own cloud here > > > > > > It has been scheduled for 11:00 on 24 Jul 2014. > > > > > > No April Fools' jokes here. Your OSCON proposal is accepted! > > > > > > Please confirm that you have received this acceptance and can > > > deliver your proposed session at OSCON, Sunday July 20 - Thursday > > > July 24, 2014 in Portland, Oregon by clicking on the link at the > > > bottom of this email. > > > > > > *NOTE:* Keep in mind that TUTORIALS are on Sunday and Monday this > > > year, with SESSIONS on Tuesday through Thursday. For any > > > scheduling questions, if there is something you'd like to > > > add/remove, update/edit on your proposal, or for anything else, > > > please email Shirley: speakers@oreilly.com. > > > > > > *REMEMBER:* Speakers receive a complimentary 5-Day pass to OSCON > > > (this includes tutorials as well as conference sessions.) You > > > will be registered for the event. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > -- Jennifer Cloer The Linux Foundation Director of Communications 503-867-2304 jennifer@linuxfoundation.org Skype: jencloer Twitter: jennifercloer --047d7b342f6c6b304404f6392763 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Congratulations!



On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:44 AM, St= efano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com><= /span> wrote:
That's fantastic! Congratulations!

On Fri, 4 Apr 2014, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote:
> Just an FYI that our OSCon proposal on Nymote (pasted below) got accep= ted into OSCon.  We're aiming to demonstrate the MirageOS networki= ng stack running on a Cubieboard2/Cubietruck and Xen/ARM at the session, so= this should help publicise the ARM port more widely.
>
> Abstract follows:
> The Mirage OS is an open-source library operating system that compiles= code written in the OCaml functional language into a variety of hardware b= ackends, most notably specialized unikernels that run directly on the Xen h= ypervisor. Mirage is particularly useful for building safe, reliable OS com= ponents such as storage or networked daemons.
>
> Since the release of Mirage 1.0 in December 2013, we’ve been usi= ng it to self-host our personal Internet presences. Instead of having to ma= nage complex deployments such as a LAMP stack (with the associated security= headaches), Mirage offers the opportunity to “compile your own cloud= ” from a set of protocol libraries. This is an educational experience= that you miss out on if using a hosted PaaS, and you also gain the freedom= of running your own infrastructure and federating via open protocols such = as XMPP.
>
> In this talk, I’ll walk you through how my own homepage infrastr= ucture works, and how to replicate it yourself to regain control of your In= ternet presence. The DNS and HTTP servers run as separate unikernels on the= cloud, and are coordinated via the Irminsule storage stack (which uses Git= as its communications protocol). The deployment simply uses the Travis con= tinuous integration tool to commit the entire kernel to Git (e.g. http= s://github.com/mirage/mirage-www-deployment), so you can get started ve= ry quickly using Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD or MacOS X (we’ll provide a = Vagrant virtual machine if you’re running Windows).
>
> -anil
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Shirley Bailes <s= hirley@oreilly.com>
> > Subject: Session proposal accepted for OSCON 2014
> > Date: 2 April 2014 06:58:03 BST
> > To: Anil Madhavapeddy <anil= @recoil.org>
> >
> > (To respond to this message, use the web page link at the
> > bottom.)
> >
> > We are pleased to accept the following proposal for OSCON 2014. > >
> > * Nymote: git your own cloud here
> >
> > It has been scheduled for 11:00 on 24 Jul 2014.
> >
> > No April Fools' jokes here. Your OSCON proposal is accepted!<= br> > >
> > Please confirm that you have received this acceptance and can
> > deliver your proposed session at OSCON, Sunday July 20 - Thursday=
> > July 24, 2014 in Portland, Oregon by clicking on the link at the<= br> > > bottom of this email.
> >
> > *NOTE:* Keep in mind that TUTORIALS are on Sunday and Monday this=
> > year, with SESSIONS on Tuesday through Thursday. For any
> > scheduling questions, if there is something you'd like to
> > add/remove, update/edit on your proposal, or for anything else, > > please email Shirley: spe= akers@oreilly.com.
> >
> > *REMEMBER:* Speakers receive a complimentary 5-Day pass to OSCON<= br> > > (this includes tutorials as well as conference sessions.) You
> > will be registered for the event.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Publicity mailing list
> Publicity@lists.xenp= roject.org
> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo= /publicity
>

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On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Stefano Stabellini < stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote: > That's fantastic! Congratulations! > > On Fri, 4 Apr 2014, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: > > Just an FYI that our OSCon proposal on Nymote (pasted below) got > accepted into OSCon. We're aiming to demonstrate the MirageOS networking > stack running on a Cubieboard2/Cubietruck and Xen/ARM at the session, so > this should help publicise the ARM port more widely. > > > > Abstract follows: > > The Mirage OS is an open-source library operating system that compiles > code written in the OCaml functional language into a variety of hardware > backends, most notably specialized unikernels that run directly on the Xen > hypervisor. Mirage is particularly useful for building safe, reliable OS > components such as storage or networked daemons. > > > > Since the release of Mirage 1.0 in December 2013, we've been using it to > self-host our personal Internet presences. Instead of having to manage > complex deployments such as a LAMP stack (with the associated security > headaches), Mirage offers the opportunity to "compile your own cloud" from > a set of protocol libraries. This is an educational experience that you > miss out on if using a hosted PaaS, and you also gain the freedom of > running your own infrastructure and federating via open protocols such as > XMPP. > > > > In this talk, I'll walk you through how my own homepage infrastructure > works, and how to replicate it yourself to regain control of your Internet > presence. The DNS and HTTP servers run as separate unikernels on the cloud, > and are coordinated via the Irminsule storage stack (which uses Git as its > communications protocol). The deployment simply uses the Travis continuous > integration tool to commit the entire kernel to Git (e.g. > https://github.com/mirage/mirage-www-deployment), so you can get started > very quickly using Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD or MacOS X (we'll provide a > Vagrant virtual machine if you're running Windows). > > > > -anil > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > From: Shirley Bailes > > > Subject: Session proposal accepted for OSCON 2014 > > > Date: 2 April 2014 06:58:03 BST > > > To: Anil Madhavapeddy > > > > > > (To respond to this message, use the web page link at the > > > bottom.) > > > > > > We are pleased to accept the following proposal for OSCON 2014. > > > > > > * Nymote: git your own cloud here > > > > > > It has been scheduled for 11:00 on 24 Jul 2014. > > > > > > No April Fools' jokes here. Your OSCON proposal is accepted! > > > > > > Please confirm that you have received this acceptance and can > > > deliver your proposed session at OSCON, Sunday July 20 - Thursday > > > July 24, 2014 in Portland, Oregon by clicking on the link at the > > > bottom of this email. > > > > > > *NOTE:* Keep in mind that TUTORIALS are on Sunday and Monday this > > > year, with SESSIONS on Tuesday through Thursday. For any > > > scheduling questions, if there is something you'd like to > > > add/remove, update/edit on your proposal, or for anything else, > > > please email Shirley: speakers@oreilly.com. > > > > > > *REMEMBER:* Speakers receive a complimentary 5-Day pass to OSCON > > > (this includes tutorials as well as conference sessions.) You > > > will be registered for the event. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > -- Jennifer Cloer The Linux Foundation Director of Communications 503-867-2304 jennifer@linuxfoundation.org Skype: jencloer Twitter: jennifercloer --047d7b342f6c6b304404f6392763 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Congratulations!



On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:44 AM, St= efano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com><= /span> wrote:
That's fantastic! Congratulations!

On Fri, 4 Apr 2014, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote:
> Just an FYI that our OSCon proposal on Nymote (pasted below) got accep= ted into OSCon.  We're aiming to demonstrate the MirageOS networki= ng stack running on a Cubieboard2/Cubietruck and Xen/ARM at the session, so= this should help publicise the ARM port more widely.
>
> Abstract follows:
> The Mirage OS is an open-source library operating system that compiles= code written in the OCaml functional language into a variety of hardware b= ackends, most notably specialized unikernels that run directly on the Xen h= ypervisor. Mirage is particularly useful for building safe, reliable OS com= ponents such as storage or networked daemons.
>
> Since the release of Mirage 1.0 in December 2013, we’ve been usi= ng it to self-host our personal Internet presences. Instead of having to ma= nage complex deployments such as a LAMP stack (with the associated security= headaches), Mirage offers the opportunity to “compile your own cloud= ” from a set of protocol libraries. This is an educational experience= that you miss out on if using a hosted PaaS, and you also gain the freedom= of running your own infrastructure and federating via open protocols such = as XMPP.
>
> In this talk, I’ll walk you through how my own homepage infrastr= ucture works, and how to replicate it yourself to regain control of your In= ternet presence. The DNS and HTTP servers run as separate unikernels on the= cloud, and are coordinated via the Irminsule storage stack (which uses Git= as its communications protocol). The deployment simply uses the Travis con= tinuous integration tool to commit the entire kernel to Git (e.g. http= s://github.com/mirage/mirage-www-deployment), so you can get started ve= ry quickly using Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD or MacOS X (we’ll provide a = Vagrant virtual machine if you’re running Windows).
>
> -anil
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Shirley Bailes <s= hirley@oreilly.com>
> > Subject: Session proposal accepted for OSCON 2014
> > Date: 2 April 2014 06:58:03 BST
> > To: Anil Madhavapeddy <anil= @recoil.org>
> >
> > (To respond to this message, use the web page link at the
> > bottom.)
> >
> > We are pleased to accept the following proposal for OSCON 2014. > >
> > * Nymote: git your own cloud here
> >
> > It has been scheduled for 11:00 on 24 Jul 2014.
> >
> > No April Fools' jokes here. Your OSCON proposal is accepted!<= br> > >
> > Please confirm that you have received this acceptance and can
> > deliver your proposed session at OSCON, Sunday July 20 - Thursday=
> > July 24, 2014 in Portland, Oregon by clicking on the link at the<= br> > > bottom of this email.
> >
> > *NOTE:* Keep in mind that TUTORIALS are on Sunday and Monday this=
> > year, with SESSIONS on Tuesday through Thursday. For any
> > scheduling questions, if there is something you'd like to
> > add/remove, update/edit on your proposal, or for anything else, > > please email Shirley: spe= akers@oreilly.com.
> >
> > *REMEMBER:* Speakers receive a complimentary 5-Day pass to OSCON<= br> > > (this includes tutorials as well as conference sessions.) You
> > will be registered for the event.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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--047d7b342f6c6b304404f6392763-- --===============1206517124364918720== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============1206517124364918720==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Apr 07 13:45:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 13:45:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WX9rx-0004cE-Sx; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 13:45:49 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WX9rv-0004bq-L9 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 13:45:47 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:23008] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id AE/B7-09853-A0CA2435; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 13:45:46 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1396878345!7503310!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.181] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.9 required=7.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18826 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2014 13:45:45 -0000 Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (HELO mail-we0-f181.google.com) (74.125.82.181) by server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 7 Apr 2014 13:45:45 -0000 Received: by mail-we0-f181.google.com with SMTP id q58so6786395wes.12 for ; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 06:45:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=w+gZq9WkGSBgQj21ZhDiH3YSN8oDjmN4muBfy3/UmJs=; b=KW7D9z4Ozu0lngYFYvBnZaP4XnkACY0H0PZb+R424I5wCJmfkHTg9DV6y94bCGkFL9 16/6CnB+KTH6OquyK4fI33pmE3iHBc18fGAWZUMmIBT2Oyqj3fnuZ3rEmQZVC5vBpzuC RNWjI/oGegIoROwSzDFR/jG67KhxHATizJmnc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=w+gZq9WkGSBgQj21ZhDiH3YSN8oDjmN4muBfy3/UmJs=; b=kBC3xMUWYe1aYuYagwN7Dzgbpbe4Xzdkozy2656BjBS5bNgCKH6wR0iAK/mVXiBTp+ X5H7gndRLBwAM0Ksp7cqx7ho7o9LtWX8QMFcZ+mMFekUtlgWe3wnXK+0PKfSUDfAqOpa 0xyzw2nZmsfvbbN7bLjJ7qw5Mf3eMKADDW4FTJHgVKmTb+uiZVQxr4J6BT+c+GY2Zb27 chVcGO7GNTgSUGb79KKYwqX91/rFQHQOyLlQ3w33MMjGlGl/XjUQjhg3gJfShLYxh7VO G/LPslCTpLGh72gIX1pfMETZte0K5z9vVHcxs1Lz3kuBBeufAfbjQ2oYIVyxbEVp3kUG zcWg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmH82WvAmUYvpFRnkeei3svZTTK8IDWwlxmxFjC0esBKZAcPd7WQJcnaoOssrJ3KYQ62f2n MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.188.41 with SMTP id fx9mr42552552wjc.56.1396878345316; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 06:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.221.167 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Apr 2014 06:45:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 09:45:45 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8855184998061644748==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============8855184998061644748== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7beb909c91366e04f6741511 --047d7beb909c91366e04f6741511 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dario, Alex's blog on Collab Summit is live on Linux.com. Please feel free to repost on the Xen blog too. Thanks, http://www.linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/mobile-linux/769031-in-vehicle-sy= stems-the-next-frontier On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:07 AM, Alex Agizim wr= ote: > Dario, > > It is on Linux.com - sure things it can be reused on Xen > > Regards, > > Alex Agizim > VP, CTO Embedded Systems > GlobalLogic > Sent from mobile, sorry for typos > > > On 4 =D7=91=D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8 2014, at 10:44, Dario Faggioli > wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 10:11 +0300, Alex Agizim wrote: > >> Hi Dario, > > Hi, > > > >> Emily ( GlobalLogic PR manager), Sara and myself working on blog from > >> collab summit. > > Wow, wonderful then! Where were you planning to publish it? Our > > blog.xen.org? Some space of your own? If the latter, can we reblog it o= n > > blog.xen.org after a day or so? > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > Dario > > > > -- > > <> (Raistlin Majere) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli > > Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > --=20 Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --047d7beb909c91366e04f6741511 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dario,

Alex's blog on Collab Sum= mit is live on Linux.com.

Please feel free to repo= st on the Xen blog too.

Thanks,



On Fri,= Apr 4, 2014 at 5:07 AM, Alex Agizim <alex.agizim@globallogic.co= m> wrote:
Dario,

It is on Linux.com - sure things it can be reused on Xen

Regards,

Alex Agizim
VP, CTO Embedded Systems
GlobalLogic
Sent from mobile, sorry for typos

> On 4 =D7=91=D7=90=D7=A4= =D7=A8 2014, at 10:44, Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 10:11 +0300, Alex Agizim wrote:
>> Hi Dario,
> Hi,
>
>> Emily ( GlobalLogic PR manager), Sara and myself working on blog f= rom
>> collab summit.
> Wow, wonderful then! Where were you planning to publish it? Our
> blog.xen.org? So= me space of your own? If the latter, can we reblog it on
> blog.xen.org aft= er a day or so?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Dario
>
> --
> <<This happens because I choose it to happen!>> (Raistlin = Majere)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli
> Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK)<= br> >

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--
=
Sarah Conway
PR Manager
The L= inux Foundation
sconway@linuxfoundation.org
(978) 578-5300 =C2=A0Cell
Skype: =C2=A0sarah.k.conway
<= /div>
--047d7beb909c91366e04f6741511-- --===============8855184998061644748== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============8855184998061644748==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Apr 07 13:45:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 13:45:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WX9rx-0004cE-Sx; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 13:45:49 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WX9rv-0004bq-L9 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 13:45:47 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:23008] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id AE/B7-09853-A0CA2435; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 13:45:46 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1396878345!7503310!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.181] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.9 required=7.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18826 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2014 13:45:45 -0000 Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (HELO mail-we0-f181.google.com) (74.125.82.181) by server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 7 Apr 2014 13:45:45 -0000 Received: by mail-we0-f181.google.com with SMTP id q58so6786395wes.12 for ; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 06:45:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=w+gZq9WkGSBgQj21ZhDiH3YSN8oDjmN4muBfy3/UmJs=; b=KW7D9z4Ozu0lngYFYvBnZaP4XnkACY0H0PZb+R424I5wCJmfkHTg9DV6y94bCGkFL9 16/6CnB+KTH6OquyK4fI33pmE3iHBc18fGAWZUMmIBT2Oyqj3fnuZ3rEmQZVC5vBpzuC RNWjI/oGegIoROwSzDFR/jG67KhxHATizJmnc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=w+gZq9WkGSBgQj21ZhDiH3YSN8oDjmN4muBfy3/UmJs=; b=kBC3xMUWYe1aYuYagwN7Dzgbpbe4Xzdkozy2656BjBS5bNgCKH6wR0iAK/mVXiBTp+ X5H7gndRLBwAM0Ksp7cqx7ho7o9LtWX8QMFcZ+mMFekUtlgWe3wnXK+0PKfSUDfAqOpa 0xyzw2nZmsfvbbN7bLjJ7qw5Mf3eMKADDW4FTJHgVKmTb+uiZVQxr4J6BT+c+GY2Zb27 chVcGO7GNTgSUGb79KKYwqX91/rFQHQOyLlQ3w33MMjGlGl/XjUQjhg3gJfShLYxh7VO G/LPslCTpLGh72gIX1pfMETZte0K5z9vVHcxs1Lz3kuBBeufAfbjQ2oYIVyxbEVp3kUG zcWg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmH82WvAmUYvpFRnkeei3svZTTK8IDWwlxmxFjC0esBKZAcPd7WQJcnaoOssrJ3KYQ62f2n MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.188.41 with SMTP id fx9mr42552552wjc.56.1396878345316; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 06:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.221.167 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Apr 2014 06:45:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 09:45:45 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8855184998061644748==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============8855184998061644748== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7beb909c91366e04f6741511 --047d7beb909c91366e04f6741511 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dario, Alex's blog on Collab Summit is live on Linux.com. Please feel free to repost on the Xen blog too. Thanks, http://www.linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/mobile-linux/769031-in-vehicle-sy= stems-the-next-frontier On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:07 AM, Alex Agizim wr= ote: > Dario, > > It is on Linux.com - sure things it can be reused on Xen > > Regards, > > Alex Agizim > VP, CTO Embedded Systems > GlobalLogic > Sent from mobile, sorry for typos > > > On 4 =D7=91=D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8 2014, at 10:44, Dario Faggioli > wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 10:11 +0300, Alex Agizim wrote: > >> Hi Dario, > > Hi, > > > >> Emily ( GlobalLogic PR manager), Sara and myself working on blog from > >> collab summit. > > Wow, wonderful then! Where were you planning to publish it? Our > > blog.xen.org? Some space of your own? If the latter, can we reblog it o= n > > blog.xen.org after a day or so? > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > Dario > > > > -- > > <> (Raistlin Majere) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli > > Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > --=20 Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --047d7beb909c91366e04f6741511 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dario,

Alex's blog on Collab Sum= mit is live on Linux.com.

Please feel free to repo= st on the Xen blog too.

Thanks,



On Fri,= Apr 4, 2014 at 5:07 AM, Alex Agizim <alex.agizim@globallogic.co= m> wrote:
Dario,

It is on Linux.com - sure things it can be reused on Xen

Regards,

Alex Agizim
VP, CTO Embedded Systems
GlobalLogic
Sent from mobile, sorry for typos

> On 4 =D7=91=D7=90=D7=A4= =D7=A8 2014, at 10:44, Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 10:11 +0300, Alex Agizim wrote:
>> Hi Dario,
> Hi,
>
>> Emily ( GlobalLogic PR manager), Sara and myself working on blog f= rom
>> collab summit.
> Wow, wonderful then! Where were you planning to publish it? Our
> blog.xen.org? So= me space of your own? If the latter, can we reblog it on
> blog.xen.org aft= er a day or so?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Dario
>
> --
> <<This happens because I choose it to happen!>> (Raistlin = Majere)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli
> Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK)<= br> >

_______________________= ________________________
Publicity mailing list
Publicity@lists.xenprojec= t.org
http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publ= icity



--
=
Sarah Conway
PR Manager
The L= inux Foundation
sconway@linuxfoundation.org
(978) 578-5300 =C2=A0Cell
Skype: =C2=A0sarah.k.conway
<= /div>
--047d7beb909c91366e04f6741511-- --===============8855184998061644748== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============8855184998061644748==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Apr 07 14:41:37 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 14:41:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXAjx-0008Ki-Ky; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 14:41:37 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXAjv-0008KP-Rm for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 14:41:36 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:38595] by server-11.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 6A/69-30804-F19B2435; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 14:41:35 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396881693!78173!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 13591 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2014 14:41:34 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-14.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 7 Apr 2014 14:41:34 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,810,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="118704707" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2014 14:41:32 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Mon, 7 Apr 2014 10:41:22 -0400 Message-ID: <1396881675.19966.5.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Sarah Conway Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 16:41:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6818780507971890400==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============6818780507971890400== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-k3Ma8wks2IVCn4sjqHqa" --=-k3Ma8wks2IVCn4sjqHqa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On lun, 2014-04-07 at 09:45 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: > Hi Dario, >=20 >=20 > Alex's blog on Collab Summit is live on Linux.com. >=20 Perfect! I was just about to write about what the timeline/deadline was for this piece! :-P > Please feel free to repost on the Xen blog too. >=20 I'll put it there, and make it go live tomorrow. Thanks everyone, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-k3Ma8wks2IVCn4sjqHqa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNCuQsACgkQk4XaBE3IOsS3FACfdHNecGyhrEWLJOF/XEt2ci8e 7PYAn1aacogrP7GmtAdSqAyFjvizwdb1 =PLjg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-k3Ma8wks2IVCn4sjqHqa-- --===============6818780507971890400== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============6818780507971890400==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Apr 07 14:41:37 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 14:41:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXAjx-0008Ki-Ky; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 14:41:37 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXAjv-0008KP-Rm for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 14:41:36 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:38595] by server-11.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 6A/69-30804-F19B2435; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 14:41:35 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396881693!78173!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 13591 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2014 14:41:34 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-14.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 7 Apr 2014 14:41:34 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,810,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="118704707" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2014 14:41:32 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Mon, 7 Apr 2014 10:41:22 -0400 Message-ID: <1396881675.19966.5.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Sarah Conway Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 16:41:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6818780507971890400==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============6818780507971890400== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-k3Ma8wks2IVCn4sjqHqa" --=-k3Ma8wks2IVCn4sjqHqa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On lun, 2014-04-07 at 09:45 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: > Hi Dario, >=20 >=20 > Alex's blog on Collab Summit is live on Linux.com. >=20 Perfect! I was just about to write about what the timeline/deadline was for this piece! :-P > Please feel free to repost on the Xen blog too. >=20 I'll put it there, and make it go live tomorrow. Thanks everyone, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-k3Ma8wks2IVCn4sjqHqa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNCuQsACgkQk4XaBE3IOsS3FACfdHNecGyhrEWLJOF/XEt2ci8e 7PYAn1aacogrP7GmtAdSqAyFjvizwdb1 =PLjg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-k3Ma8wks2IVCn4sjqHqa-- --===============6818780507971890400== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============6818780507971890400==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Apr 07 15:06:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:06:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXB7s-0001nh-UJ; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:06:20 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXB7s-0001na-AV for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:06:20 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:46070] by server-12.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 85/6C-14831-BEEB2435; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:06:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1396883178!5535771!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.175] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.1 required=7.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26127 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2014 15:06:18 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f175.google.com) (209.85.212.175) by server-13.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 7 Apr 2014 15:06:18 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id cc10so5261277wib.14 for ; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 08:06:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=g1dLXMS0eBoCdjxmB7fD8ekO6eswxDP5H2XA5qi51TY=; b=Qjf7oP6A0cEbxnzmZfWm4RIvcHJvKDue1cDziCxnvb127r+4z9mLJkqMfhe657oUGl oifjXs9EGILDPrlFXVZJcKoPuSWWE/Wege3PS1tzydlG7evjsPc3XeYX0xsz2iM8gF+L 0wrKinyW4e9uUFBTmaxjjNuCjfPz9m6uQVgTgmvKix9hwW1NmqiLxTi9YQw7HMvwNsHS dqb1ztCEEIdvxHlO9i1G+B5Kjtl+JXgLVNhgJfg+iNxGa77PPXvYFTRAibz6IYKnHY90 C1cwq7RUogNs1EfcX+hPXUFTcvAob3HeWc6PYCEacLdYNh5/EO5JTVctZ6vPD3hgt0/B Zjew== X-Received: by 10.180.10.164 with SMTP id j4mr13595731wib.51.1396883172919; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 08:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fi2sm11406315wic.15.2014.04.07.08.06.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Apr 2014 08:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5342BEE2.4090504@xen.org> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 16:06:10 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> <1396881675.19966.5.camel@Solace> In-Reply-To: <1396881675.19966.5.camel@Solace> Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7580125836797517797==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7580125836797517797== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070900000506010203080004" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070900000506010203080004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Isn't the meat of the article at http://embedded-computing.com/articles/ivi-sandboxing-next-frontier-in-vehicle-upgrades/# Lars On 07/04/2014 15:41, Dario Faggioli wrote: > On lun, 2014-04-07 at 09:45 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: >> Hi Dario, >> >> >> Alex's blog on Collab Summit is live on Linux.com. >> > Perfect! > > I was just about to write about what the timeline/deadline was for this > piece! :-P > >> Please feel free to repost on the Xen blog too. >> > I'll put it there, and make it go live tomorrow. > > Thanks everyone, > Dario > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --------------070900000506010203080004 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Isn't the meat of the article at http://embedded-computing.com/articles/ivi-sandboxing-next-frontier-in-vehicle-upgrades/#
Lars

On 07/04/2014 15:41, Dario Faggioli wrote:
On lun, 2014-04-07 at 09:45 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote:

Hi Dario,


Alex's blog on Collab Summit is live on Linux.com.


Perfect!

I was just about to write about what the timeline/deadline was for this
piece! :-P


Please feel free to repost on the Xen blog too.


I'll put it there, and make it go live tomorrow.

Thanks everyone,
Dario




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--------------070900000506010203080004-- --===============7580125836797517797== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============7580125836797517797==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Apr 07 15:06:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:06:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXB7s-0001nh-UJ; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:06:20 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXB7s-0001na-AV for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:06:20 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:46070] by server-12.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 85/6C-14831-BEEB2435; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:06:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1396883178!5535771!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.175] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.1 required=7.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26127 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2014 15:06:18 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f175.google.com) (209.85.212.175) by server-13.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 7 Apr 2014 15:06:18 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id cc10so5261277wib.14 for ; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 08:06:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=g1dLXMS0eBoCdjxmB7fD8ekO6eswxDP5H2XA5qi51TY=; b=Qjf7oP6A0cEbxnzmZfWm4RIvcHJvKDue1cDziCxnvb127r+4z9mLJkqMfhe657oUGl oifjXs9EGILDPrlFXVZJcKoPuSWWE/Wege3PS1tzydlG7evjsPc3XeYX0xsz2iM8gF+L 0wrKinyW4e9uUFBTmaxjjNuCjfPz9m6uQVgTgmvKix9hwW1NmqiLxTi9YQw7HMvwNsHS dqb1ztCEEIdvxHlO9i1G+B5Kjtl+JXgLVNhgJfg+iNxGa77PPXvYFTRAibz6IYKnHY90 C1cwq7RUogNs1EfcX+hPXUFTcvAob3HeWc6PYCEacLdYNh5/EO5JTVctZ6vPD3hgt0/B Zjew== X-Received: by 10.180.10.164 with SMTP id j4mr13595731wib.51.1396883172919; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 08:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fi2sm11406315wic.15.2014.04.07.08.06.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Apr 2014 08:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5342BEE2.4090504@xen.org> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 16:06:10 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> <1396881675.19966.5.camel@Solace> In-Reply-To: <1396881675.19966.5.camel@Solace> Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7580125836797517797==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7580125836797517797== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070900000506010203080004" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070900000506010203080004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Isn't the meat of the article at http://embedded-computing.com/articles/ivi-sandboxing-next-frontier-in-vehicle-upgrades/# Lars On 07/04/2014 15:41, Dario Faggioli wrote: > On lun, 2014-04-07 at 09:45 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: >> Hi Dario, >> >> >> Alex's blog on Collab Summit is live on Linux.com. >> > Perfect! > > I was just about to write about what the timeline/deadline was for this > piece! :-P > >> Please feel free to repost on the Xen blog too. >> > I'll put it there, and make it go live tomorrow. > > Thanks everyone, > Dario > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --------------070900000506010203080004 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Isn't the meat of the article at http://embedded-computing.com/articles/ivi-sandboxing-next-frontier-in-vehicle-upgrades/#
Lars

On 07/04/2014 15:41, Dario Faggioli wrote:
On lun, 2014-04-07 at 09:45 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote:

Hi Dario,


Alex's blog on Collab Summit is live on Linux.com.


Perfect!

I was just about to write about what the timeline/deadline was for this
piece! :-P


Please feel free to repost on the Xen blog too.


I'll put it there, and make it go live tomorrow.

Thanks everyone,
Dario




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--------------070900000506010203080004-- --===============7580125836797517797== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============7580125836797517797==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Apr 07 15:13:43 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:13:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXBF1-0002mP-7h; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:13:43 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXBEz-0002mB-Hr for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:13:41 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:17539] by server-14.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 47/8D-15696-4A0C2435; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:13:40 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396883619!5978471!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.51] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.4 required=7.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6936 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2014 15:13:39 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f51.google.com) (74.125.82.51) by server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 7 Apr 2014 15:13:39 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id k14so7032843wgh.10 for ; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 08:13:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9kjFXC7Y+4fbZOClNsl4UfNQBAJAds6JNFAzHrHlqaw=; b=BAP93s0Tlfc6L0QiwxcbfijiL13HrUeX/BA87LBGGrspWR6NzX2qbDirfm7AIqb9Kt X5xCVQsHiJmmZWu4SP2G6wBreO4M/qYk6Yk7nH3J4ncQ/u5R28kiydg7jCsSTAb9WpOA OHrgssG9aOQ/QE7zwhSVEMX+sBp0OwMo1ZZjo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=9kjFXC7Y+4fbZOClNsl4UfNQBAJAds6JNFAzHrHlqaw=; b=fBBN6+phwMhsd8KOTSczNIyCYkobgoWY+uBQ3TvRKwXW/JWFyHUas6BPKbHzJMC0Vq JUebU+tDn+s837WVR8bId2OQ0hMsDvqzN6qGMDeVlUtDp+NdpTyrkaMW1OniWbO9RqLD NWa5RkhV3xU3yMugxl8wPA0iUGacpWenRqzMQaOa0SXVeO/uaVCAMOo2fiTC2Oo8Tf79 aO0cY4PrAswk5BFIaLnD7ZzS1bVx9jToaB4b5zKtxYNGlVOe0X7UHoariIALR7W/MQnV 8bKWUnG2uTwNmtzY+K5nL6xxivP1wOG+BGbwdXSVQNfJJoQepxZN9LtmvlDBzP/f3Ip/ zJ0A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnCyje6r6D8BbtSPVf1dyFQJgCrqYSKS4j1pniOOJfIu0b/jIu9G+cDFjO0zqakjkJT4Rut MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.188.130 with SMTP id ga2mr26366979wic.18.1396883619172; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 08:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.221.167 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Apr 2014 08:13:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5342BEE2.4090504@xen.org> References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> <1396881675.19966.5.camel@Solace> <5342BEE2.4090504@xen.org> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 11:13:39 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: Lars Kurth Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3897582584674180197==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3897582584674180197== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3862ee9e90a04f6754fae --001a11c3862ee9e90a04f6754fae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, The Linux.com article includes a link to this article. Thanks, On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > Isn't the meat of the article at > http://embedded-computing.com/articles/ivi-sandboxing-next-frontier-in-vehicle-upgrades/# > Lars > > > On 07/04/2014 15:41, Dario Faggioli wrote: > > On lun, 2014-04-07 at 09:45 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: > > Hi Dario, > > > Alex's blog on Collab Summit is live on Linux.com. > > > Perfect! > > I was just about to write about what the timeline/deadline was for this > piece! :-P > > > Please feel free to repost on the Xen blog too. > > > I'll put it there, and make it go live tomorrow. > > Thanks everyone, > Dario > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing listPublicity@lists.xenproject.orghttp://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --001a11c3862ee9e90a04f6754fae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

The Linux.com article includes a li= nk to this article.=A0

Thanks,


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 a= t 11:06 AM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
Isn't the meat of the article at http://embedded-computing.com/= articles/ivi-sandboxing-next-frontier-in-vehicle-upgrades/#
Lars


On 07/04/2014 15:41, Dario Faggioli wrote:
On lun, 2014-04-07 at 09:45 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote:

Hi Dario,


Alex's blog on Collab Summit is live on Linux.com.


Perfect!

I was just about to write about what the timeline/deadline was for this
piece! :-P


Please feel free to repost on the Xen blog too.


I'll put it there, and make it go live tomorrow.

Thanks everyone,
Dario




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ty@lists.xenproject.org
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icity


_______________________________________________
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--
Sarah Conway
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The Linux Fou= ndation
sconway@linuxfoundation.org
(978) 578-5300 =A0Cell
Skype: =A0sarah.k.conway
--001a11c3862ee9e90a04f6754fae-- --===============3897582584674180197== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============3897582584674180197==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Apr 07 15:13:43 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:13:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXBF1-0002mP-7h; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:13:43 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXBEz-0002mB-Hr for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:13:41 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:17539] by server-14.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 47/8D-15696-4A0C2435; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:13:40 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396883619!5978471!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.51] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.4 required=7.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6936 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2014 15:13:39 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f51.google.com) (74.125.82.51) by server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 7 Apr 2014 15:13:39 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id k14so7032843wgh.10 for ; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 08:13:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9kjFXC7Y+4fbZOClNsl4UfNQBAJAds6JNFAzHrHlqaw=; b=BAP93s0Tlfc6L0QiwxcbfijiL13HrUeX/BA87LBGGrspWR6NzX2qbDirfm7AIqb9Kt X5xCVQsHiJmmZWu4SP2G6wBreO4M/qYk6Yk7nH3J4ncQ/u5R28kiydg7jCsSTAb9WpOA OHrgssG9aOQ/QE7zwhSVEMX+sBp0OwMo1ZZjo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=9kjFXC7Y+4fbZOClNsl4UfNQBAJAds6JNFAzHrHlqaw=; b=fBBN6+phwMhsd8KOTSczNIyCYkobgoWY+uBQ3TvRKwXW/JWFyHUas6BPKbHzJMC0Vq JUebU+tDn+s837WVR8bId2OQ0hMsDvqzN6qGMDeVlUtDp+NdpTyrkaMW1OniWbO9RqLD NWa5RkhV3xU3yMugxl8wPA0iUGacpWenRqzMQaOa0SXVeO/uaVCAMOo2fiTC2Oo8Tf79 aO0cY4PrAswk5BFIaLnD7ZzS1bVx9jToaB4b5zKtxYNGlVOe0X7UHoariIALR7W/MQnV 8bKWUnG2uTwNmtzY+K5nL6xxivP1wOG+BGbwdXSVQNfJJoQepxZN9LtmvlDBzP/f3Ip/ zJ0A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnCyje6r6D8BbtSPVf1dyFQJgCrqYSKS4j1pniOOJfIu0b/jIu9G+cDFjO0zqakjkJT4Rut MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.188.130 with SMTP id ga2mr26366979wic.18.1396883619172; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 08:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.221.167 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Apr 2014 08:13:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5342BEE2.4090504@xen.org> References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> <1396881675.19966.5.camel@Solace> <5342BEE2.4090504@xen.org> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 11:13:39 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: Lars Kurth Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3897582584674180197==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3897582584674180197== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3862ee9e90a04f6754fae --001a11c3862ee9e90a04f6754fae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, The Linux.com article includes a link to this article. Thanks, On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > Isn't the meat of the article at > http://embedded-computing.com/articles/ivi-sandboxing-next-frontier-in-vehicle-upgrades/# > Lars > > > On 07/04/2014 15:41, Dario Faggioli wrote: > > On lun, 2014-04-07 at 09:45 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: > > Hi Dario, > > > Alex's blog on Collab Summit is live on Linux.com. > > > Perfect! > > I was just about to write about what the timeline/deadline was for this > piece! :-P > > > Please feel free to repost on the Xen blog too. > > > I'll put it there, and make it go live tomorrow. > > Thanks everyone, > Dario > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing listPublicity@lists.xenproject.orghttp://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --001a11c3862ee9e90a04f6754fae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

The Linux.com article includes a li= nk to this article.=A0

Thanks,


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 a= t 11:06 AM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
Isn't the meat of the article at http://embedded-computing.com/= articles/ivi-sandboxing-next-frontier-in-vehicle-upgrades/#
Lars


On 07/04/2014 15:41, Dario Faggioli wrote:
On lun, 2014-04-07 at 09:45 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote:

Hi Dario,


Alex's blog on Collab Summit is live on Linux.com.


Perfect!

I was just about to write about what the timeline/deadline was for this
piece! :-P


Please feel free to repost on the Xen blog too.


I'll put it there, and make it go live tomorrow.

Thanks everyone,
Dario




__________________________________________=
_____
Publicity mailing list
Publici=
ty@lists.xenproject.org
http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publ=
icity


_______________________________________________
Publicity mailing list
Publicity@lists.xenprojec= t.org
http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publ= icity




--
Sarah Conway
PR Manager
The Linux Fou= ndation
sconway@linuxfoundation.org
(978) 578-5300 =A0Cell
Skype: =A0sarah.k.conway
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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bx16sm1623525wib.13.2014.04.08.02.10.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Apr 2014 02:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5343BCEB.60903@xen.org> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:10:03 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "xen-devel@lists.xen.org" , "xen-api@lists.xen.org" , "mirageos-devel@lists.xenproject.org" , "xen-users@lists.xen.org" , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Publicity] Reminder: CfP for Xen Project Developer Summit and LinuxCon NA closes May 2nd X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hi all, just a quick reminder that the CfP for our Developer Summit (see http://events.linuxfoundation.org//events/xen-project-developer-summit/program/cfp) closes on May 2nd Regards Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 09:25:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 09:25:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXSHM-0001ZR-Cn; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 09:25:16 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXSHK-0001ZF-Pe for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 09:25:14 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:30768] by server-13.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 41/15-23211-970C3435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 09:25:13 +0000 X-Env-Sender: roger.pau@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1396949112!6186960!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18188 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 09:25:13 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 09:25:13 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,816,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="118986657" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2014 09:25:11 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 05:25:11 -0400 Message-ID: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 11:25:10 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_Pau_Monn=E9?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Publicity list X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 X-DLP: MIA1 Subject: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hello, I'm giving a FreeBSD/Xen talk at BSDCan, could it be listed on the "Events" section of the Xen Project webpage? 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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u8sm2453576wjq.1.2014.04.08.02.58.15 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Apr 2014 02:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:58:14 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Roger (and everyone on the list), you can add events yourself by logging into xenproject.org, going to = http://xenproject.org/about/events.html and creating an event. It will = go into a moderator queue, as we had spam events in the past Lars On 08/04/2014 10:25, Roger Pau Monn=E9 wrote: > Hello, > > I'm giving a FreeBSD/Xen talk at BSDCan, could it be listed on the > "Events" section of the Xen Project webpage? > > http://www.bsdcan.org/2014/schedule/events/469.en.html > > Thanks, Roger. > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 09:58:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 09:58:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXSnK-0004eU-VN; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 09:58:18 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXSnK-0004eJ-Dk for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 09:58:18 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:32414] by server-12.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 9C/B5-14831-938C3435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 09:58:17 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1396951096!5693864!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.51] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_32, spamassassin: X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28136 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 09:58:17 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f51.google.com) (74.125.82.51) by server-13.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 09:58:17 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id k14so673261wgh.34 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 02:58:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GNbtRNyUb5ONQB+mURkeg6xRIdOp+HuCcH//5eAhC/U=; b=RAIzOm6jkSN17L2OaDYxDc3QlcqMEEQcjrm0lXxj6X2Lf+AEPw2pkpJIAx8PKicJ8o MrPcd8ATZxyk30c8ov9rajKZvtbR/p33VKRhkVaNiclGz6uph1b2+FKs86c/agLsGVE2 O2gCNmGFSMTcCUPTJlRacHLPNi2+qEvozGaM8hitDe4LU4/JWrRzunZZBRBp+kzirx+6 2ycC8ogXwyQbYRVi27urZsYkR2UXGSlqx1lmDePa9OSKiJECoGPPXpIuSQlk2hbwu5Mn cZvwNYYDaX3s1ljQjlg7ycXioGOjguq9h47EHVVzcTuLaSRWaisskbx18+bzbKxJgDpJ oIPg== X-Received: by 10.194.174.42 with SMTP id bp10mr2775590wjc.57.1396951096368; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 02:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u8sm2453576wjq.1.2014.04.08.02.58.15 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Apr 2014 02:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:58:14 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Roger (and everyone on the list), you can add events yourself by logging into xenproject.org, going to = http://xenproject.org/about/events.html and creating an event. It will = go into a moderator queue, as we had spam events in the past Lars On 08/04/2014 10:25, Roger Pau Monn=E9 wrote: > Hello, > > I'm giving a FreeBSD/Xen talk at BSDCan, could it be listed on the > "Events" section of the Xen Project webpage? > > http://www.bsdcan.org/2014/schedule/events/469.en.html > > Thanks, Roger. > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 12:13:28 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:13:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXUu7-0005J3-PL; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:13:27 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXUu6-0005Iw-Cx for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:13:26 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:2786] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 12/AB-13602-5E7E3435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:13:25 +0000 X-Env-Sender: roger.pau@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1396959202!702604!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1916 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 12:13:24 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-3.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 12:13:24 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,818,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="117833599" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2014 12:13:18 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:13:18 -0400 Message-ID: <5343E7DD.7030902@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:13:17 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_Pau_Monn=E9?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Lars Kurth References: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 X-DLP: MIA2 Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 08/04/14 11:58, Lars Kurth wrote: > Roger (and everyone on the list), > you can add events yourself by logging into xenproject.org, going to > http://xenproject.org/about/events.html and creating an event. It will > go into a moderator queue, as we had spam events in the past Thanks, I've been able to add it :). BTW, login from Chrome on OS X seems to be broken, see the following snapshot: http://xenbits.xen.org/people/royger/login_fail.png Roger. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 12:13:28 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:13:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXUu7-0005J3-PL; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:13:27 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXUu6-0005Iw-Cx for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:13:26 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:2786] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 12/AB-13602-5E7E3435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:13:25 +0000 X-Env-Sender: roger.pau@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1396959202!702604!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1916 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 12:13:24 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-3.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 12:13:24 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,818,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="117833599" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2014 12:13:18 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:13:18 -0400 Message-ID: <5343E7DD.7030902@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:13:17 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_Pau_Monn=E9?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Lars Kurth References: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 X-DLP: MIA2 Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 08/04/14 11:58, Lars Kurth wrote: > Roger (and everyone on the list), > you can add events yourself by logging into xenproject.org, going to > http://xenproject.org/about/events.html and creating an event. It will > go into a moderator queue, as we had spam events in the past Thanks, I've been able to add it :). BTW, login from Chrome on OS X seems to be broken, see the following snapshot: http://xenbits.xen.org/people/royger/login_fail.png Roger. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 12:21:10 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:21:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXV1Z-0005vX-Oj; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:21:09 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXV1X-0005up-Vq for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:21:08 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:23807] by server-17.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 11/26-09046-3B9E3435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:21:07 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396959666!6193180!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.217.181] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_32, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 2132 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 12:21:06 -0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (HELO mail-lb0-f181.google.com) (209.85.217.181) by server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 12:21:06 -0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id c11so785088lbj.26 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 05:21:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Wz10ZLmj4F2PhurWgYQr9PE4jWie+YYsLOOAXG1+DNs=; b=01whI6DlR4/g7oGeGcCEFqvKvGTleC1d2b4DMdpci0sNRY00Qy8gBGlYLTdqQ+OGNM GV8/mkuIeai2VEiCk03Aa4vg717Vgt4+47Xl5IgOnZRjff4dhpN1kRUoHT0ccz4Qx1/f zD36xZk+/KJBdu2xWrDCExz779NFC5YrNjdK3rJ9roqJWAza37P9BDU2L5xW5U0FShW2 n+dpg11h/rW53t4np98+gkwxMTBUkMkyJlo0DBuyRMN3KMb0GYJ8CblMuDTyJ//FUOaj dTxGdDy4nYw4HsQLaV7/IKYe6XoAvuNEgkp8PvbdbZWO8ZVdKmgzu3LJqjk3iKYKy0id aQyw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.2.99 with SMTP id 3mr1250575lat.51.1396959665619; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 05:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 05:21:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5343E7DD.7030902@citrix.com> References: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> <5343E7DD.7030902@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:21:05 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2Frh1_kHmp0oFtCvVBS_PzN___0 Message-ID: From: Russ Pavlicek To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_Pau_Monn=E9?= Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org >BTW, login from Chrome on OS X >seems to be broken, see the following snapshot: Not precisely "broken", but it is formatted wrong. The ECC+ plugin is not behaving well and overstriking another line of text. When I get a little time on the road (and a semi-working Internet), I'll see if I can adjust something (if there is something to adjust). Thanks, Russ On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Roger Pau Monn=E9 wr= ote: > On 08/04/14 11:58, Lars Kurth wrote: >> Roger (and everyone on the list), >> you can add events yourself by logging into xenproject.org, going to >> http://xenproject.org/about/events.html and creating an event. It will >> go into a moderator queue, as we had spam events in the past > > Thanks, I've been able to add it :). BTW, login from Chrome on OS X > seems to be broken, see the following snapshot: > > http://xenbits.xen.org/people/royger/login_fail.png > > Roger. > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 12:21:10 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:21:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXV1Z-0005vX-Oj; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:21:09 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXV1X-0005up-Vq for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:21:08 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:23807] by server-17.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 11/26-09046-3B9E3435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:21:07 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396959666!6193180!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.217.181] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_32, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 2132 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 12:21:06 -0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (HELO mail-lb0-f181.google.com) (209.85.217.181) by server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 12:21:06 -0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id c11so785088lbj.26 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 05:21:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Wz10ZLmj4F2PhurWgYQr9PE4jWie+YYsLOOAXG1+DNs=; b=01whI6DlR4/g7oGeGcCEFqvKvGTleC1d2b4DMdpci0sNRY00Qy8gBGlYLTdqQ+OGNM GV8/mkuIeai2VEiCk03Aa4vg717Vgt4+47Xl5IgOnZRjff4dhpN1kRUoHT0ccz4Qx1/f zD36xZk+/KJBdu2xWrDCExz779NFC5YrNjdK3rJ9roqJWAza37P9BDU2L5xW5U0FShW2 n+dpg11h/rW53t4np98+gkwxMTBUkMkyJlo0DBuyRMN3KMb0GYJ8CblMuDTyJ//FUOaj dTxGdDy4nYw4HsQLaV7/IKYe6XoAvuNEgkp8PvbdbZWO8ZVdKmgzu3LJqjk3iKYKy0id aQyw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.2.99 with SMTP id 3mr1250575lat.51.1396959665619; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 05:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 05:21:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5343E7DD.7030902@citrix.com> References: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> <5343E7DD.7030902@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:21:05 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2Frh1_kHmp0oFtCvVBS_PzN___0 Message-ID: From: Russ Pavlicek To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_Pau_Monn=E9?= Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org >BTW, login from Chrome on OS X >seems to be broken, see the following snapshot: Not precisely "broken", but it is formatted wrong. The ECC+ plugin is not behaving well and overstriking another line of text. When I get a little time on the road (and a semi-working Internet), I'll see if I can adjust something (if there is something to adjust). Thanks, Russ On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Roger Pau Monn=E9 wr= ote: > On 08/04/14 11:58, Lars Kurth wrote: >> Roger (and everyone on the list), >> you can add events yourself by logging into xenproject.org, going to >> http://xenproject.org/about/events.html and creating an event. It will >> go into a moderator queue, as we had spam events in the past > > Thanks, I've been able to add it :). BTW, login from Chrome on OS X > seems to be broken, see the following snapshot: > > http://xenbits.xen.org/people/royger/login_fail.png > > Roger. > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 13:13:38 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:13:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXVqL-0000Q7-Nm; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:13:37 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXVqK-0000Q2-P7 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:13:36 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:18369] by server-14.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 6D/67-15696-006F3435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:13:36 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396962815!3258704!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.50] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 3885 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 13:13:35 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f50.google.com) (74.125.82.50) by server-5.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 13:13:35 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id x13so945459wgg.9 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 06:13:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UHX1gwqu0oZEeUp4BiGK0KdrpBAV6IEVZjDYWZ2YQtc=; b=SahE+kqGGa21qATtTokZqjD+8kfhk/KsXMtjKcCVtSYkT1kbGhrOB0PtwpnE7i9aUZ VhdWRrnz4bsBF20ya/bWOPZoF7Zzg5ZTHY5R0GaR1fRot4wxhA8/UFifsm01RzN8rRV6 Hl1leFQ+IvYzKjAXzrCGaa6h2oOEbnB8YrSfjPswdv2cp2UtkY3V+lMzW/C/Rw++fvdz wMu9knbubEYZ+MkY8uXRI2ziinJkxJb26iBr8iIdPrf8CjoLc+lZZSTqvm5QvCtN/B7X 2kzGOpawYLKAq3H7TrSbbK8LxDyFMzSR0bR+h6FgRPFKh3Hvru6v87hxzsAU/pq5vOB6 YbpA== X-Received: by 10.194.174.42 with SMTP id bp10mr3663785wjc.57.1396962814647; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 06:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hu7sm2958347wib.10.2014.04.08.06.13.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Apr 2014 06:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:13:32 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org See: * http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ * On the other hand there is this article: http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ (both by Simon Crosby) Generally for the security discussion, which is related, the following articles may be relevant: * http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ * http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a few useful links) despite also being partly a product pitch: * http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ * http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protection/ Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 13:13:38 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:13:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXVqL-0000Q7-Nm; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:13:37 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXVqK-0000Q2-P7 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:13:36 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:18369] by server-14.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 6D/67-15696-006F3435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:13:36 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396962815!3258704!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.50] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 3885 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 13:13:35 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f50.google.com) (74.125.82.50) by server-5.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 13:13:35 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id x13so945459wgg.9 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 06:13:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UHX1gwqu0oZEeUp4BiGK0KdrpBAV6IEVZjDYWZ2YQtc=; b=SahE+kqGGa21qATtTokZqjD+8kfhk/KsXMtjKcCVtSYkT1kbGhrOB0PtwpnE7i9aUZ VhdWRrnz4bsBF20ya/bWOPZoF7Zzg5ZTHY5R0GaR1fRot4wxhA8/UFifsm01RzN8rRV6 Hl1leFQ+IvYzKjAXzrCGaa6h2oOEbnB8YrSfjPswdv2cp2UtkY3V+lMzW/C/Rw++fvdz wMu9knbubEYZ+MkY8uXRI2ziinJkxJb26iBr8iIdPrf8CjoLc+lZZSTqvm5QvCtN/B7X 2kzGOpawYLKAq3H7TrSbbK8LxDyFMzSR0bR+h6FgRPFKh3Hvru6v87hxzsAU/pq5vOB6 YbpA== X-Received: by 10.194.174.42 with SMTP id bp10mr3663785wjc.57.1396962814647; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 06:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hu7sm2958347wib.10.2014.04.08.06.13.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Apr 2014 06:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:13:32 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org See: * http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ * On the other hand there is this article: http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ (both by Simon Crosby) Generally for the security discussion, which is related, the following articles may be relevant: * http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ * http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a few useful links) despite also being partly a product pitch: * http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ * http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protection/ Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 13:40:05 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:40:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWFx-0001kT-Oy; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:40:05 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWFw-0001ju-6j for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:40:04 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:31356] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 17/C9-02781-33CF3435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:40:03 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1396964401!7032456!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12399 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 13:40:02 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 13:40:02 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,818,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="117867513" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2014 13:40:00 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 09:39:59 -0400 Received: from kaball.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.59]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWFr-00046P-P5; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:39:59 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:39:58 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> Message-ID: References: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types of containers. However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle fat old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs, with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest. If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog post about it. On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: > See: > > * http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ > * On the other hand there is this article: > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ > (both by Simon Crosby) > > Generally for the security discussion, which is related, the following > articles may be relevant: > * > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ > * http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security > The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a few useful links) > despite also being partly a product pitch: > * > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ > * > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protection/ > > Lars > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 13:40:05 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:40:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWFx-0001kT-Oy; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:40:05 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWFw-0001ju-6j for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:40:04 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:31356] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 17/C9-02781-33CF3435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:40:03 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1396964401!7032456!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12399 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 13:40:02 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 13:40:02 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,818,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="117867513" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2014 13:40:00 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 09:39:59 -0400 Received: from kaball.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.59]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWFr-00046P-P5; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:39:59 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:39:58 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> Message-ID: References: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types of containers. However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle fat old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs, with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest. If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog post about it. On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: > See: > > * http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ > * On the other hand there is this article: > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ > (both by Simon Crosby) > > Generally for the security discussion, which is related, the following > articles may be relevant: > * > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ > * http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security > The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a few useful links) > despite also being partly a product pitch: > * > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ > * > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protection/ > > Lars > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 13:43:01 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:43:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWIn-00025f-0Y; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:43:01 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWIj-00025O-LF for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:42:59 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:22643] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id DC/05-13602-0ECF3435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:42:56 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1396964574!7775634!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18258 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 13:42:55 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-4.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 13:42:55 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,818,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="119061830" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2014 13:42:54 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 09:42:53 -0400 Received: from kaball.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.59]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWIf-000496-LI; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:42:53 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:42:52 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Stefano Stabellini In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to have upstream QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use for other POSIX applications too, so that we can advertise it as a generic solution for Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative to containers. On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of > "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump > kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types > of containers. > > However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can > already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle fat > old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs, > with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest. > > If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog > post about it. > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: > > See: > > > > * http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ > > * On the other hand there is this article: > > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ > > (both by Simon Crosby) > > > > Generally for the security discussion, which is related, the following > > articles may be relevant: > > * > > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ > > * http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security > > The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a few useful links) > > despite also being partly a product pitch: > > * > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ > > * > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protection/ > > > > Lars > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 13:43:01 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:43:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWIn-00025f-0Y; 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08 Apr 2014 13:42:54 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 09:42:53 -0400 Received: from kaball.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.59]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWIf-000496-LI; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:42:53 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:42:52 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Stefano Stabellini In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to have upstream QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use for other POSIX applications too, so that we can advertise it as a generic solution for Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative to containers. On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of > "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump > kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types > of containers. > > However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can > already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle fat > old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs, > with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest. > > If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog > post about it. > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: > > See: > > > > * http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ > > * On the other hand there is this article: > > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ > > (both by Simon Crosby) > > > > Generally for the security discussion, which is related, the following > > articles may be relevant: > > * > > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ > > * http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security > > The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a few useful links) > > despite also being partly a product pitch: > > * > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ > > * > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protection/ > > > > Lars > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 13:54:46 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:54:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWU8-0002ds-Gw; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.com later today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely). I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone has concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you can. Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished later tonight. It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to highlight the MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms. --- Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question? Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping Your Hypervisor Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the seemingly endless virtues of Linux Containers. I heard claims that hypervisors were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on inefficient replication of a large operating system stack in order to serve up applications. The speaker painted a picture of a future where hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of hardware. "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a lightweight, efficient means of serving up application: containers." Containers are cool, but not a panacea Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are not burdened with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a full operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. Compared to hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be fast and lean. But they are also limited. Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it is impossible to run Windows. Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. Or another version of the Linux kernel. Or another Linux distribution which requires a different kernel. All of those scenarios are best handled by a real hypervisor. And the security aspect of hypervisors is huge, worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. Still, if you need an environment within your organization where many workloads can leverage a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable solution. However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist that these problems relating to containers are really application problems in disguise. Issues about kernel support and security are the results of improper application design, they claim. When we raise the bar on applications so that they are based solely on access to application servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- and so will hypervisors, for the most part. Or that's what some of these advocates claim, at least. The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated But is there another scenario which could answer the call for highly responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not use the container solution? Maybe one that can actually leverage the flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most hypervisors? Yes, in fact, there is. And the key is in the very application-centric future which some container advocates believe will cause the hypervisor to become obsolete. Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of replicating a full operating system, we can replicate ultra-light application-centric operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. A number of these lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, including the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv. These lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud operating systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to hardware -- because they aren't meant to run on hardware. And they lack multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to be general timesharing systems, but dedicated application server systems. As a result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start up amazingly quickly in a VM environment. They enable the vision of light and fast application servers, while preserving the superior security and flexibility of true hypervisors. Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty application bath water So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, efficient application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, but cringing at the notion of totally retooling your virtualization infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, don't fret. That vision is achievable while maintaining the flexibility and security that mature hypervisors deliver. Focus on a streamlined application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient application VMs is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using hypervisors, containers, or both. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to have upstream > QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use for other POSIX > applications too, so that we can advertise it as a generic solution for > Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative to containers. > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >> Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of >> "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump >> kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types >> of containers. >> >> However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can >> already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle fat >> old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs, >> with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest. >> >> If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog >> post about it. >> >> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: >> > See: >> > >> > * http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ >> > * On the other hand there is this article: >> > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ >> > (both by Simon Crosby) >> > >> > Generally for the security discussion, which is related, the following >> > articles may be relevant: >> > * >> > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ >> > * http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security >> > The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a few useful links) >> > despite also being partly a product pitch: >> > * >> > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ >> > * >> > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protection/ >> > >> > Lars >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Publicity mailing list >> > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 13:54:46 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:54:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWU8-0002ds-Gw; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.com later today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely). I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone has concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you can. Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished later tonight. It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to highlight the MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms. --- Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question? Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping Your Hypervisor Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the seemingly endless virtues of Linux Containers. I heard claims that hypervisors were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on inefficient replication of a large operating system stack in order to serve up applications. The speaker painted a picture of a future where hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of hardware. "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a lightweight, efficient means of serving up application: containers." Containers are cool, but not a panacea Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are not burdened with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a full operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. Compared to hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be fast and lean. But they are also limited. Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it is impossible to run Windows. Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. Or another version of the Linux kernel. Or another Linux distribution which requires a different kernel. All of those scenarios are best handled by a real hypervisor. And the security aspect of hypervisors is huge, worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. Still, if you need an environment within your organization where many workloads can leverage a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable solution. However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist that these problems relating to containers are really application problems in disguise. Issues about kernel support and security are the results of improper application design, they claim. When we raise the bar on applications so that they are based solely on access to application servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- and so will hypervisors, for the most part. Or that's what some of these advocates claim, at least. The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated But is there another scenario which could answer the call for highly responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not use the container solution? Maybe one that can actually leverage the flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most hypervisors? Yes, in fact, there is. And the key is in the very application-centric future which some container advocates believe will cause the hypervisor to become obsolete. Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of replicating a full operating system, we can replicate ultra-light application-centric operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. A number of these lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, including the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv. These lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud operating systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to hardware -- because they aren't meant to run on hardware. And they lack multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to be general timesharing systems, but dedicated application server systems. As a result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start up amazingly quickly in a VM environment. They enable the vision of light and fast application servers, while preserving the superior security and flexibility of true hypervisors. Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty application bath water So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, efficient application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, but cringing at the notion of totally retooling your virtualization infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, don't fret. That vision is achievable while maintaining the flexibility and security that mature hypervisors deliver. Focus on a streamlined application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient application VMs is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using hypervisors, containers, or both. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to have upstream > QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use for other POSIX > applications too, so that we can advertise it as a generic solution for > Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative to containers. > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >> Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of >> "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump >> kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types >> of containers. >> >> However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can >> already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle fat >> old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs, >> with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest. >> >> If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog >> post about it. >> >> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: >> > See: >> > >> > * http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ >> > * On the other hand there is this article: >> > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ >> > (both by Simon Crosby) >> > >> > Generally for the security discussion, which is related, the following >> > articles may be relevant: >> > * >> > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ >> > * http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security >> > The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a few useful links) >> > despite also being partly a product pitch: >> > * >> > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ >> > * >> > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protection/ >> > >> > Lars >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Publicity mailing list >> > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 16:01:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 16:01:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXYSd-0004h9-2v; 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8 Apr 2014 16:01:07 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,818,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="119136980" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2014 16:01:06 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 12:01:05 -0400 Message-ID: <1396972863.19966.23.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Sarah Conway Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 18:01:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> <1396881675.19966.5.camel@Solace> <5342BEE2.4090504@xen.org> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Gunn Emily , "artem.mygaiev@globallogic.com" , Alex Agizim , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5056802983229907082==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============5056802983229907082== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-pW5NtEkJpvmTV0TY+6at" --=-pW5NtEkJpvmTV0TY+6at Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On lun, 2014-04-07 at 11:13 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: > Hi, >=20 >=20 > The Linux.com article includes a link to this article.=20 >=20 Hey, So, what I put together is actually a mix of the two article, as the Linux.com one, for obvious and understandable reasons, barely mention Xen, which is fine there, but would be odd on our blog! :-P The result is here: http://blog.xen.org/?p=3D9108&preview=3Dtrue Can everybody see it? Tell me if that is not the case and we'll set up the proper access right (or cut'n'paste the article) for you. Do you think this could be fine? I said I wanted to publish today, but given I'm not just reblogging, I'm thinking about leaving people a bit of time for reviewing. I scheduled the post to go live tomorrow, at around this same time. Let me know what you think. Thanks and Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-pW5NtEkJpvmTV0TY+6at Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNEHT8ACgkQk4XaBE3IOsT7ywCgrKrs7li3I/fShsn/nBae8+4s paQAn2xzvLE4KModFEPzIpLHmKKmH+3g =9uhw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-pW5NtEkJpvmTV0TY+6at-- --===============5056802983229907082== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============5056802983229907082==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 16:01:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 16:01:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXYSd-0004h9-2v; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 16:01:19 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXYSc-0004h2-3L for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 16:01:18 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:44024] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 57/96-02781-D4D14435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 16:01:17 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1396972866!7044131!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNTc0NDIgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 24192 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 16:01:07 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-9.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 16:01:07 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,818,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="119136980" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2014 16:01:06 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 12:01:05 -0400 Message-ID: <1396972863.19966.23.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Sarah Conway Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 18:01:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> <1396881675.19966.5.camel@Solace> <5342BEE2.4090504@xen.org> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Gunn Emily , "artem.mygaiev@globallogic.com" , Alex Agizim , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5056802983229907082==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============5056802983229907082== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-pW5NtEkJpvmTV0TY+6at" --=-pW5NtEkJpvmTV0TY+6at Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On lun, 2014-04-07 at 11:13 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: > Hi, >=20 >=20 > The Linux.com article includes a link to this article.=20 >=20 Hey, So, what I put together is actually a mix of the two article, as the Linux.com one, for obvious and understandable reasons, barely mention Xen, which is fine there, but would be odd on our blog! :-P The result is here: http://blog.xen.org/?p=3D9108&preview=3Dtrue Can everybody see it? Tell me if that is not the case and we'll set up the proper access right (or cut'n'paste the article) for you. Do you think this could be fine? I said I wanted to publish today, but given I'm not just reblogging, I'm thinking about leaving people a bit of time for reviewing. I scheduled the post to go live tomorrow, at around this same time. Let me know what you think. Thanks and Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-pW5NtEkJpvmTV0TY+6at Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNEHT8ACgkQk4XaBE3IOsT7ywCgrKrs7li3I/fShsn/nBae8+4s paQAn2xzvLE4KModFEPzIpLHmKKmH+3g =9uhw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-pW5NtEkJpvmTV0TY+6at-- --===============5056802983229907082== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============5056802983229907082==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 17:08:43 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:08:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXZVr-0001KI-3A; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:08:43 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXZVp-0001Jx-CU for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:08:41 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:14672] by server-8.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 68/1A-21547-81D24435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:08:40 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1396976919!4505657!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.45] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_23, spamassassin: X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1048 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 17:08:39 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f45.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f45.google.com) (74.125.82.45) by server-2.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 17:08:39 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id l18so1264311wgh.28 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:08:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uPbD2oY3ai5TIn9+ADptx2tI3xQpe+uI6mWYNnZggzY=; b=0VnTLm63GELy8xY6rM8kZ4CsT5ivC8R1NaWXyEmNi9I6oZqPPlHb9QBMWGlbGeSpQZ hibc78dLRurPA3+ByOlH7xcAnDGTmOgqVmH3FsWp/+WzqsgZsHcS2qgyFu6WZ2nFlIjS ne3mF17a4KX2tTLXFRMa37K5sIyT/+pAUwPX4VOXe0chyJ0OmetrrSnckeB/T9CnC9kK a+yBKJr8d2EUhwyR7E4EBjQIlt1Hp03NLTCHmHtZbASTL6oZvnpEfY7t8hcZlIZ0yJ5l f78rd+Wjgc9ISdH5CQhJ2VZn6IZ+nscSmhPpTIh7yvzp+hY/H6ge4YJQHfH+lAon5oRB qQhw== X-Received: by 10.180.77.200 with SMTP id u8mr5580353wiw.48.1396976919061; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fb6sm4259593wib.2.2014.04.08.10.08.37 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53442D14.6050407@xen.org> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 18:08:36 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dario Faggioli , Sarah Conway References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> <1396881675.19966.5.camel@Solace> <5342BEE2.4090504@xen.org> <1396972863.19966.23.camel@Solace> In-Reply-To: <1396972863.19966.23.camel@Solace> Cc: Gunn Emily , "artem.mygaiev@globallogic.com" , Alex Agizim , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org I can see it. Thank you. The only concern I would have with the content from http://embedded-computing.com/ is whether there is a copyright issue using it Lars On 08/04/2014 17:01, Dario Faggioli wrote: > On lun, 2014-04-07 at 11:13 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> The Linux.com article includes a link to this article. >> > Hey, > > So, what I put together is actually a mix of the two article, as the > Linux.com one, for obvious and understandable reasons, barely mention > Xen, which is fine there, but would be odd on our blog! :-P > > The result is here: http://blog.xen.org/?p=9108&preview=true > > Can everybody see it? Tell me if that is not the case and we'll set up > the proper access right (or cut'n'paste the article) for you. > > Do you think this could be fine? > > I said I wanted to publish today, but given I'm not just reblogging, I'm > thinking about leaving people a bit of time for reviewing. I scheduled > the post to go live tomorrow, at around this same time. > > Let me know what you think. > > Thanks and Regards, > Dario > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 17:08:43 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:08:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXZVr-0001KI-3A; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:08:43 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXZVp-0001Jx-CU for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:08:41 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:14672] by server-8.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 68/1A-21547-81D24435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:08:40 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1396976919!4505657!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.45] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_23, spamassassin: X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1048 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 17:08:39 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f45.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f45.google.com) (74.125.82.45) by server-2.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 17:08:39 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id l18so1264311wgh.28 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:08:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uPbD2oY3ai5TIn9+ADptx2tI3xQpe+uI6mWYNnZggzY=; b=0VnTLm63GELy8xY6rM8kZ4CsT5ivC8R1NaWXyEmNi9I6oZqPPlHb9QBMWGlbGeSpQZ hibc78dLRurPA3+ByOlH7xcAnDGTmOgqVmH3FsWp/+WzqsgZsHcS2qgyFu6WZ2nFlIjS ne3mF17a4KX2tTLXFRMa37K5sIyT/+pAUwPX4VOXe0chyJ0OmetrrSnckeB/T9CnC9kK a+yBKJr8d2EUhwyR7E4EBjQIlt1Hp03NLTCHmHtZbASTL6oZvnpEfY7t8hcZlIZ0yJ5l f78rd+Wjgc9ISdH5CQhJ2VZn6IZ+nscSmhPpTIh7yvzp+hY/H6ge4YJQHfH+lAon5oRB qQhw== X-Received: by 10.180.77.200 with SMTP id u8mr5580353wiw.48.1396976919061; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fb6sm4259593wib.2.2014.04.08.10.08.37 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53442D14.6050407@xen.org> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 18:08:36 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dario Faggioli , Sarah Conway References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> <1396881675.19966.5.camel@Solace> <5342BEE2.4090504@xen.org> <1396972863.19966.23.camel@Solace> In-Reply-To: <1396972863.19966.23.camel@Solace> Cc: Gunn Emily , "artem.mygaiev@globallogic.com" , Alex Agizim , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org I can see it. Thank you. The only concern I would have with the content from http://embedded-computing.com/ is whether there is a copyright issue using it Lars On 08/04/2014 17:01, Dario Faggioli wrote: > On lun, 2014-04-07 at 11:13 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> The Linux.com article includes a link to this article. >> > Hey, > > So, what I put together is actually a mix of the two article, as the > Linux.com one, for obvious and understandable reasons, barely mention > Xen, which is fine there, but would be odd on our blog! :-P > > The result is here: http://blog.xen.org/?p=9108&preview=true > > Can everybody see it? Tell me if that is not the case and we'll set up > the proper access right (or cut'n'paste the article) for you. > > Do you think this could be fine? > > I said I wanted to publish today, but given I'm not just reblogging, I'm > thinking about leaving people a bit of time for reviewing. I scheduled > the post to go live tomorrow, at around this same time. > > Let me know what you think. > > Thanks and Regards, > Dario > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 17:13:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:13:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXZaM-0001u2-RC; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:13:22 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXZaL-0001tv-Dp for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:13:21 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:15189] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id F2/40-09853-03E24435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:13:20 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1396977199!7863056!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.45] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.5 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21351 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 17:13:19 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f45.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f45.google.com) (74.125.82.45) by server-7.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 17:13:19 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id l18so1270683wgh.28 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:13:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zKuBrEPhOiGeFlHXnzcwzNR87Q65di34584nI4kuEU8=; b=jtBnGhfUQggssNzRVcE1Qh81bLwU1Hpn4IxOSNNDWUjPvfI8iPxgcne1ADI2P/uy5H PwW+2M5w57CS/u6Xm/W6TxARWFvP/BloJ9s8aUtQTiinik5rsxJxxiymfEu1ncZ1Wsui R8UljC+2nBDZMX2lb2+raQSdAZPhWELbkdvPSVOSq0y+zLaLOPO4GGPP3KBRCPaBF8fP j/oWBaalaYWDkl6oG0vd7vrSWFvFDq/OMWchMGT0tZgXiZBtEIkgP6atyX3644qKHo8X TaQiZ8usOGwoK3VYAPu4UTBlf0QIgfxhqR2HK1X5QbwUpjbz/Di/uhnV2kHIl/XLkGZ8 hqxg== X-Received: by 10.194.205.35 with SMTP id ld3mr2821910wjc.82.1396977199053; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kp5sm4159063wjb.30.2014.04.08.10.13.17 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53442E2C.2090001@xen.org> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 18:13:16 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org I think it's a great post Lars On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.com later > today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely). > > I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone has > concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you can. > Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished later tonight. > > It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to highlight the > MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms. > > --- > > Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question? > > Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping Your Hypervisor > > Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the seemingly > endless virtues of Linux Containers. I heard claims that hypervisors > were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on inefficient > replication of a large operating system stack in order to serve up > applications. The speaker painted a picture of a future where > hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of hardware. > "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a lightweight, > efficient means of serving up application: containers." > > Containers are cool, but not a panacea > > Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are not burdened > with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a full > operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. Compared to > hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be fast and > lean. But they are also limited. > > Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it is > impossible to run Windows. Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. Or another > version of the Linux kernel. Or another Linux distribution which > requires a different kernel. All of those scenarios are best handled > by a real hypervisor. And the security aspect of hypervisors is huge, > worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. Still, if you need an > environment within your organization where many workloads can leverage > a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable solution. > > However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist that these > problems relating to containers are really application problems in > disguise. Issues about kernel support and security are the results of > improper application design, they claim. When we raise the bar on > applications so that they are based solely on access to application > servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- and so > will hypervisors, for the most part. Or that's what some of these > advocates claim, at least. > > The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated > > But is there another scenario which could answer the call for highly > responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not use the > container solution? Maybe one that can actually leverage the > flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most > hypervisors? > > Yes, in fact, there is. And the key is in the very > application-centric future which some container advocates believe will > cause the hypervisor to become obsolete. > > Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System > > Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of replicating a full > operating system, we can replicate ultra-light application-centric > operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. A number of these > lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, including > the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv. These > lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud operating > systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to hardware -- > because they aren't meant to run on hardware. And they lack > multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to be general > timesharing systems, but dedicated application server systems. As a > result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start up > amazingly quickly in a VM environment. They enable the vision of > light and fast application servers, while preserving the superior > security and flexibility of true hypervisors. > > Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty application bath water > > So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, efficient > application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, but > cringing at the notion of totally retooling your virtualization > infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, don't > fret. That vision is achievable while maintaining the flexibility and > security that mature hypervisors deliver. Focus on a streamlined > application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient application VMs > is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using hypervisors, > containers, or both. > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini > wrote: >> Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to have upstream >> QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use for other POSIX >> applications too, so that we can advertise it as a generic solution for >> Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative to containers. >> >> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >>> Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of >>> "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump >>> kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types >>> of containers. >>> >>> However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can >>> already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle fat >>> old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs, >>> with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest. >>> >>> If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog >>> post about it. >>> >>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: >>>> See: >>>> >>>> * http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ >>>> * On the other hand there is this article: >>>> http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ >>>> (both by Simon Crosby) >>>> >>>> Generally for the security discussion, which is related, the following >>>> articles may be relevant: >>>> * >>>> http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ >>>> * http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security >>>> The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a few useful links) >>>> despite also being partly a product pitch: >>>> * >>>> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ >>>> * >>>> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protection/ >>>> >>>> Lars >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Publicity mailing list >>>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Publicity mailing list >>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 17:13:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:13:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXZaM-0001u2-RC; 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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kp5sm4159063wjb.30.2014.04.08.10.13.17 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53442E2C.2090001@xen.org> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 18:13:16 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org I think it's a great post Lars On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.com later > today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely). > > I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone has > concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you can. > Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished later tonight. > > It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to highlight the > MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms. > > --- > > Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question? > > Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping Your Hypervisor > > Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the seemingly > endless virtues of Linux Containers. I heard claims that hypervisors > were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on inefficient > replication of a large operating system stack in order to serve up > applications. The speaker painted a picture of a future where > hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of hardware. > "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a lightweight, > efficient means of serving up application: containers." > > Containers are cool, but not a panacea > > Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are not burdened > with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a full > operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. Compared to > hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be fast and > lean. But they are also limited. > > Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it is > impossible to run Windows. Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. Or another > version of the Linux kernel. Or another Linux distribution which > requires a different kernel. All of those scenarios are best handled > by a real hypervisor. And the security aspect of hypervisors is huge, > worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. Still, if you need an > environment within your organization where many workloads can leverage > a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable solution. > > However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist that these > problems relating to containers are really application problems in > disguise. Issues about kernel support and security are the results of > improper application design, they claim. When we raise the bar on > applications so that they are based solely on access to application > servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- and so > will hypervisors, for the most part. Or that's what some of these > advocates claim, at least. > > The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated > > But is there another scenario which could answer the call for highly > responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not use the > container solution? Maybe one that can actually leverage the > flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most > hypervisors? > > Yes, in fact, there is. And the key is in the very > application-centric future which some container advocates believe will > cause the hypervisor to become obsolete. > > Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System > > Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of replicating a full > operating system, we can replicate ultra-light application-centric > operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. A number of these > lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, including > the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv. These > lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud operating > systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to hardware -- > because they aren't meant to run on hardware. And they lack > multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to be general > timesharing systems, but dedicated application server systems. As a > result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start up > amazingly quickly in a VM environment. They enable the vision of > light and fast application servers, while preserving the superior > security and flexibility of true hypervisors. > > Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty application bath water > > So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, efficient > application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, but > cringing at the notion of totally retooling your virtualization > infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, don't > fret. That vision is achievable while maintaining the flexibility and > security that mature hypervisors deliver. Focus on a streamlined > application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient application VMs > is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using hypervisors, > containers, or both. > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini > wrote: >> Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to have upstream >> QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use for other POSIX >> applications too, so that we can advertise it as a generic solution for >> Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative to containers. >> >> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >>> Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of >>> "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump >>> kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types >>> of containers. >>> >>> However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can >>> already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle fat >>> old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs, >>> with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest. >>> >>> If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog >>> post about it. >>> >>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: >>>> See: >>>> >>>> * http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ >>>> * On the other hand there is this article: >>>> http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ >>>> (both by Simon Crosby) >>>> >>>> Generally for the security discussion, which is related, the following >>>> articles may be relevant: >>>> * >>>> http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ >>>> * http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security >>>> The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a few useful links) >>>> despite also being partly a product pitch: >>>> * >>>> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ >>>> * >>>> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protection/ >>>> >>>> Lars >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Publicity mailing list >>>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Publicity mailing list >>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 17:19:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:19:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXZgb-0002LJ-Ex; 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Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.221.167 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:19:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53442D14.6050407@xen.org> References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> <1396881675.19966.5.camel@Solace> <5342BEE2.4090504@xen.org> <1396972863.19966.23.camel@Solace> <53442D14.6050407@xen.org> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 13:19:45 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: Lars Kurth Cc: Gunn Emily , "artem.mygaiev@globallogic.com" , Alex Agizim , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2778649687603642752==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============2778649687603642752== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7ba979daba85d304f68b30ca --047d7ba979daba85d304f68b30ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, I think we need to be explicit about naming the source in our text and including the url. Suggest this wording instead: More thoughts from Alex on the state of In-Vehicle Infotainment appeared recently online in Embedded Computing Design. His recent blog IVI system sandboxing is worth a full read. The part more relevant to the Xen Project is reported below: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > I can see it. Thank you. > The only concern I would have with the content from > http://embedded-computing.com/ is whether there is a copyright issue > using it > Lars > > > On 08/04/2014 17:01, Dario Faggioli wrote: > >> On lun, 2014-04-07 at 11:13 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> The Linux.com article includes a link to this article. >>> >>> Hey, >> >> So, what I put together is actually a mix of the two article, as the >> Linux.com one, for obvious and understandable reasons, barely mention >> Xen, which is fine there, but would be odd on our blog! :-P >> >> The result is here: http://blog.xen.org/?p=9108&preview=true >> >> Can everybody see it? Tell me if that is not the case and we'll set up >> the proper access right (or cut'n'paste the article) for you. >> >> Do you think this could be fine? >> >> I said I wanted to publish today, but given I'm not just reblogging, I'm >> thinking about leaving people a bit of time for reviewing. I scheduled >> the post to go live tomorrow, at around this same time. >> >> Let me know what you think. >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> Dario >> >> > -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --047d7ba979daba85d304f68b30ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, I think we need to be explicit about naming the sourc= e in our text and including the url.

Suggest this wordin= g instead:

More thoughts f= rom Alex on the state of In-Vehicle Infotainment appeared recently online i= n Embedded Computing Design. His recent blog=A0IVI system sandboxing=A0is w= orth a full read. The=A0part more relevant to the Xen= Project is reported below:



On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth= @xen.org> wrote:
I can see it. Thank you.
The only concern I would have with the content from http://embedded-computing.com/ is= whether there is a copyright issue using it
Lars


On 08/04/2014 17:01, Dario Faggioli wrote:
On lun, 2014-04-07 at 11:13 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote:
Hi,


The Linux.com article includes a link to this article.

Hey,

So, what I put together is actually a mix of the two article, as the
Linux.com one, for obvious and understandable reasons, barely mention
Xen, which is fine there, but would be odd on our blog! :-P

The result is here: http://blog.xen.org/?p=3D9108&preview=3D= true

Can everybody see it? Tell me if that is not the case and we'll set up<= br> the proper access right (or cut'n'paste the article) for you.

Do you think this could be fine?

I said I wanted to publish today, but given I'm not just reblogging, I&= #39;m
thinking about leaving people a bit of time for reviewing. I scheduled
the post to go live tomorrow, at around this same time.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks and Regards,
Dario





--
=
Sarah Conway
PR Manager
The L= inux Foundation
sconway@linuxfoundation.org
(978) 578-5300 =A0Cell
Skype: =A0sarah.k.conway
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Suggest this wording instead: More thoughts from Alex on the state of In-Vehicle Infotainment appeared recently online in Embedded Computing Design. His recent blog IVI system sandboxing is worth a full read. The part more relevant to the Xen Project is reported below: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > I can see it. Thank you. > The only concern I would have with the content from > http://embedded-computing.com/ is whether there is a copyright issue > using it > Lars > > > On 08/04/2014 17:01, Dario Faggioli wrote: > >> On lun, 2014-04-07 at 11:13 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> The Linux.com article includes a link to this article. >>> >>> Hey, >> >> So, what I put together is actually a mix of the two article, as the >> Linux.com one, for obvious and understandable reasons, barely mention >> Xen, which is fine there, but would be odd on our blog! :-P >> >> The result is here: http://blog.xen.org/?p=9108&preview=true >> >> Can everybody see it? Tell me if that is not the case and we'll set up >> the proper access right (or cut'n'paste the article) for you. >> >> Do you think this could be fine? >> >> I said I wanted to publish today, but given I'm not just reblogging, I'm >> thinking about leaving people a bit of time for reviewing. I scheduled >> the post to go live tomorrow, at around this same time. >> >> Let me know what you think. >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> Dario >> >> > -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --047d7ba979daba85d304f68b30ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, I think we need to be explicit about naming the sourc= e in our text and including the url.

Suggest this wordin= g instead:

More thoughts f= rom Alex on the state of In-Vehicle Infotainment appeared recently online i= n Embedded Computing Design. His recent blog=A0IVI system sandboxing=A0is w= orth a full read. The=A0part more relevant to the Xen= Project is reported below:



On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth= @xen.org> wrote:
I can see it. Thank you.
The only concern I would have with the content from http://embedded-computing.com/ is= whether there is a copyright issue using it
Lars


On 08/04/2014 17:01, Dario Faggioli wrote:
On lun, 2014-04-07 at 11:13 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote:
Hi,


The Linux.com article includes a link to this article.

Hey,

So, what I put together is actually a mix of the two article, as the
Linux.com one, for obvious and understandable reasons, barely mention
Xen, which is fine there, but would be odd on our blog! :-P

The result is here: http://blog.xen.org/?p=3D9108&preview=3D= true

Can everybody see it? Tell me if that is not the case and we'll set up<= br> the proper access right (or cut'n'paste the article) for you.

Do you think this could be fine?

I said I wanted to publish today, but given I'm not just reblogging, I&= #39;m
thinking about leaving people a bit of time for reviewing. I scheduled
the post to go live tomorrow, at around this same time.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks and Regards,
Dario





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sconway@linuxfoundation.org
(978) 578-5300 =A0Cell
Skype: =A0sarah.k.conway
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The fact that Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary choice might play reasonably well. Are there are any major technical differences between the miniOS approach and containers? Thanks, On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > I think it's a great post > Lars > > > On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > >> I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.com later >> today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely). >> >> I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone has >> concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you can. >> Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished later tonight. >> >> It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to highlight the >> MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms. >> >> --- >> >> Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question? >> >> Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping Your Hypervisor >> >> Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the seemingly >> endless virtues of Linux Containers. I heard claims that hypervisors >> were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on inefficient >> replication of a large operating system stack in order to serve up >> applications. The speaker painted a picture of a future where >> hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of hardware. >> "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a lightweight, >> efficient means of serving up application: containers." >> >> Containers are cool, but not a panacea >> >> Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are not burdened >> with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a full >> operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. Compared to >> hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be fast and >> lean. But they are also limited. >> >> Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it is >> impossible to run Windows. Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. Or another >> version of the Linux kernel. Or another Linux distribution which >> requires a different kernel. All of those scenarios are best handled >> by a real hypervisor. And the security aspect of hypervisors is huge, >> worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. Still, if you need an >> environment within your organization where many workloads can leverage >> a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable solution. >> >> However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist that these >> problems relating to containers are really application problems in >> disguise. Issues about kernel support and security are the results of >> improper application design, they claim. When we raise the bar on >> applications so that they are based solely on access to application >> servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- and so >> will hypervisors, for the most part. Or that's what some of these >> advocates claim, at least. >> >> The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated >> >> But is there another scenario which could answer the call for highly >> responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not use the >> container solution? Maybe one that can actually leverage the >> flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most >> hypervisors? >> >> Yes, in fact, there is. And the key is in the very >> application-centric future which some container advocates believe will >> cause the hypervisor to become obsolete. >> >> Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System >> >> Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of replicating a full >> operating system, we can replicate ultra-light application-centric >> operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. A number of these >> lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, including >> the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv. These >> lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud operating >> systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to hardware -- >> because they aren't meant to run on hardware. And they lack >> multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to be general >> timesharing systems, but dedicated application server systems. As a >> result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start up >> amazingly quickly in a VM environment. They enable the vision of >> light and fast application servers, while preserving the superior >> security and flexibility of true hypervisors. >> >> Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty application bath water >> >> So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, efficient >> application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, but >> cringing at the notion of totally retooling your virtualization >> infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, don't >> fret. That vision is achievable while maintaining the flexibility and >> security that mature hypervisors deliver. Focus on a streamlined >> application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient application VMs >> is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using hypervisors, >> containers, or both. >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini >> wrote: >> >>> Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to have upstream >>> QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use for other POSIX >>> applications too, so that we can advertise it as a generic solution for >>> Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative to containers. >>> >>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >>> >>>> Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of >>>> "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump >>>> kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types >>>> of containers. >>>> >>>> However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can >>>> already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle fat >>>> old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs, >>>> with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest. >>>> >>>> If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog >>>> post about it. >>>> >>>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: >>>> >>>>> See: >>>>> >>>>> * http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new- >>>>> infrastructure-anachronism/ >>>>> * On the other hand there is this article: >>>>> http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars- >>>>> of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ >>>>> (both by Simon Crosby) >>>>> >>>>> Generally for the security discussion, which is related, the following >>>>> articles may be relevant: >>>>> * >>>>> http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds- >>>>> potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ >>>>> * http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security >>>>> The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a few useful >>>>> links) >>>>> despite also being partly a product pitch: >>>>> * >>>>> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization- >>>>> for-the-security-architect/ >>>>> * >>>>> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization- >>>>> for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protection/ >>>>> >>>>> Lars >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Publicity mailing list >>>>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>>>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Publicity mailing list >>>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Publicity mailing list >>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --f46d0438956918aa3904f68b8d58 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I like Stefano's point about=A0Xen building bridges here -- seems lik= e a new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The fact that=A0Xen is evolving with = the times and it's not a binary choice might play reasonably well. =A0<= /span>

Are ther= e are any major technical differences between the miniOS approach and conta= iners?=A0

Thanks,<= /span>


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:
I think it's a great post
Lars


On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote:
I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.com later
today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely).

I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone has
concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you can.
Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished later tonight.

It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to highlight the
MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms.

---

Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question?

Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping Your Hypervi= sor

Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the seemingly
endless virtues of Linux Containers. =A0I heard claims that hypervisors
were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on inefficient
replication of a large operating system stack in order to serve up
applications. =A0The speaker painted a picture of a future where
hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of hardware.
"What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a lightweig= ht,
efficient means of serving up application: containers."

Containers are cool, but not a panacea

Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are not burdened
with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a full
operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. =A0Compared to
hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be fast and
lean. =A0But they are also limited.

Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it is
impossible to run Windows. =A0Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. =A0 Or another
version of the Linux kernel. =A0Or another Linux distribution which
requires a different kernel. =A0All of those scenarios are best handled
by a real hypervisor. =A0And the security aspect of hypervisors is huge, worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. =A0Still, if you need an
environment within your organization where many workloads can leverage
a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable solution.

However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist that these
problems relating to containers are really application problems in
disguise. =A0Issues about kernel support and security are the results of improper application design, they claim. =A0When we raise the bar on
applications so that they are based solely on access to application
servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- and so
will hypervisors, for the most part. =A0Or that's what some of these advocates claim, at least.

The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated

But is there another scenario which could answer the call for highly
responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not use the
container solution? =A0Maybe one that can actually leverage the
flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most
hypervisors?

Yes, in fact, there is. =A0And the key is in the very
application-centric future which some container advocates believe will
cause the hypervisor to become obsolete.

Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System

Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of replicating a = full
operating system, we can replicate ultra-light application-centric
operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. =A0A number of these
lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, including
the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv. =A0These=
lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud operating
systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to hardware --
because they aren't meant to run on hardware. =A0And they lack
multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to be general
timesharing systems, but dedicated application server systems. =A0As a
result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start up
amazingly quickly in a VM environment. =A0They enable the vision of
light and fast application servers, while preserving the superior
security and flexibility of true hypervisors.

Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty application bath wat= er

So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, efficient
application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, but
cringing at the notion of totally retooling your virtualization
infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, don't
fret. =A0That vision is achievable while maintaining the flexibility and security that mature hypervisors deliver. =A0Focus on a streamlined
application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient application VMs
is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using hypervisors,
containers, or both.


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini
<s= tefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to have upstream
QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use for other POSIX
applications too, so that we can advertise it as a generic solution for
Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative to containers.

On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of
"micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or= rump
kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types
of containers.

However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can
already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle fat old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs,
with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest.

If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog
post about it.

On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote:
See:

* http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07= /vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/
* On the other hand there is this article:
http://www.zdnet.com/= hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/
(both by Simon Crosby)

Generally for the security discussion, which is related, the following
articles may be relevant:
*
http://www.zdnet.com/hyp= ervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-70000278= 46/
* http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03= /computer-security
The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a few useful links)=
despite also being partly a product pitch:
*
http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/
*
http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-f= or-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protecti= on/

Lars

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--f46d0438956918aa3904f68b8d58-- --===============6042483563953622263== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============6042483563953622263==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 17:45:44 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:45:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXa5e-00042G-SP; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:45:42 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXa5c-00042B-CL for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:45:40 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:27303] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 19/0A-09853-3C534435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:45:39 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1396979135!7751049!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.173] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.9 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 8166 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 17:45:35 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f173.google.com) (209.85.212.173) by server-16.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 17:45:35 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id z2so7532398wiv.6 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:45:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=bEEbN9vxZgYsnAUV9c8KR7Yl0F6jSHE9LFYkNiI16V8=; b=E+VxU1/BtYz8VaUj0ipX3oV8/QFXXb0U056y4Y+q//MMIPhwOGCocSwy3IyxC14q/A IY9gUXpxmhjyLC/2LExdKEXhnLvAQRxo0w6pFy/J2esVF395ylb5ozttsshO1l5JSGh2 PcRVuYElYGOc8lH2MIQqoiVji6U62caMClgdI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=bEEbN9vxZgYsnAUV9c8KR7Yl0F6jSHE9LFYkNiI16V8=; b=KacyQ4/qHlo5Cxnzya3NO+dBDAEiXtHLUTyiBejZ+cQplXWsjjeqkO4ZILG8qERE7L k4qTsUriqSO2mDCtsGrmjbubq9GrfQDdmVXlvqBQkKkZ7f8DlrHLVxVwNQd30JWTG2o+ +LQaoxd1VRNaZSiEzQ03U/qLITfHCu5LX/L5j+a8PdhNRoSg4qpjhGLWihpEl4/3bHB9 30UOE8MFmn4ya8xCL34qoNpWqUijtLsV1M8/imBs5ReXWBQueoNNTgH1K83aEk28M6Be HpIUxCnUP1FayE8fyCpt8VGCBHIJ0v8FMp6P2Rv+W346zP6UL1X9e28xYU+N22xezqnW 8Zhw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkiORA3/VLwLo4TjePzNzMcYGlXHpr7GVaocGsFOo4zoNvkOsrnx33lhAuVFNdyuKcgqOpA MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.75.202 with SMTP id e10mr33090574wiw.50.1396979134927; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.221.167 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:45:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53442E2C.2090001@xen.org> References: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> <53442E2C.2090001@xen.org> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 13:45:34 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: Lars Kurth Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6042483563953622263==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============6042483563953622263== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0438956918aa3904f68b8d58 --f46d0438956918aa3904f68b8d58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I like Stefano's point about Xen building bridges here -- seems like a new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The fact that Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary choice might play reasonably well. Are there are any major technical differences between the miniOS approach and containers? Thanks, On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > I think it's a great post > Lars > > > On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > >> I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.com later >> today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely). >> >> I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone has >> concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you can. >> Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished later tonight. >> >> It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to highlight the >> MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms. >> >> --- >> >> Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question? >> >> Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping Your Hypervisor >> >> Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the seemingly >> endless virtues of Linux Containers. I heard claims that hypervisors >> were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on inefficient >> replication of a large operating system stack in order to serve up >> applications. The speaker painted a picture of a future where >> hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of hardware. >> "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a lightweight, >> efficient means of serving up application: containers." >> >> Containers are cool, but not a panacea >> >> Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are not burdened >> with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a full >> operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. Compared to >> hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be fast and >> lean. But they are also limited. >> >> Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it is >> impossible to run Windows. Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. Or another >> version of the Linux kernel. Or another Linux distribution which >> requires a different kernel. All of those scenarios are best handled >> by a real hypervisor. And the security aspect of hypervisors is huge, >> worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. Still, if you need an >> environment within your organization where many workloads can leverage >> a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable solution. >> >> However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist that these >> problems relating to containers are really application problems in >> disguise. Issues about kernel support and security are the results of >> improper application design, they claim. When we raise the bar on >> applications so that they are based solely on access to application >> servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- and so >> will hypervisors, for the most part. Or that's what some of these >> advocates claim, at least. >> >> The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated >> >> But is there another scenario which could answer the call for highly >> responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not use the >> container solution? Maybe one that can actually leverage the >> flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most >> hypervisors? >> >> Yes, in fact, there is. And the key is in the very >> application-centric future which some container advocates believe will >> cause the hypervisor to become obsolete. >> >> Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System >> >> Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of replicating a full >> operating system, we can replicate ultra-light application-centric >> operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. A number of these >> lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, including >> the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv. These >> lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud operating >> systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to hardware -- >> because they aren't meant to run on hardware. And they lack >> multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to be general >> timesharing systems, but dedicated application server systems. As a >> result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start up >> amazingly quickly in a VM environment. They enable the vision of >> light and fast application servers, while preserving the superior >> security and flexibility of true hypervisors. >> >> Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty application bath water >> >> So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, efficient >> application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, but >> cringing at the notion of totally retooling your virtualization >> infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, don't >> fret. That vision is achievable while maintaining the flexibility and >> security that mature hypervisors deliver. Focus on a streamlined >> application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient application VMs >> is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using hypervisors, >> containers, or both. >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini >> wrote: >> >>> Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to have upstream >>> QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use for other POSIX >>> applications too, so that we can advertise it as a generic solution for >>> Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative to containers. >>> >>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >>> >>>> Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of >>>> "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump >>>> kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types >>>> of containers. >>>> >>>> However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can >>>> already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle fat >>>> old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs, >>>> with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest. >>>> >>>> If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog >>>> post about it. >>>> >>>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: >>>> >>>>> See: >>>>> >>>>> * http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new- >>>>> infrastructure-anachronism/ >>>>> * On the other hand there is this article: >>>>> http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars- >>>>> of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ >>>>> (both by Simon Crosby) >>>>> >>>>> Generally for the security discussion, which is related, the following >>>>> articles may be relevant: >>>>> * >>>>> http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds- >>>>> potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ >>>>> * http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security >>>>> The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a few useful >>>>> links) >>>>> despite also being partly a product pitch: >>>>> * >>>>> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization- >>>>> for-the-security-architect/ >>>>> * >>>>> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization- >>>>> for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protection/ >>>>> >>>>> Lars >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Publicity mailing list >>>>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>>>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Publicity mailing list >>>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Publicity mailing list >>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --f46d0438956918aa3904f68b8d58 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I like Stefano's point about=A0Xen building bridges here -- seems lik= e a new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The fact that=A0Xen is evolving with = the times and it's not a binary choice might play reasonably well. =A0<= /span>

Are ther= e are any major technical differences between the miniOS approach and conta= iners?=A0

Thanks,<= /span>


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:
I think it's a great post
Lars


On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote:
I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.com later
today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely).

I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone has
concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you can.
Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished later tonight.

It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to highlight the
MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms.

---

Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question?

Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping Your Hypervi= sor

Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the seemingly
endless virtues of Linux Containers. =A0I heard claims that hypervisors
were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on inefficient
replication of a large operating system stack in order to serve up
applications. =A0The speaker painted a picture of a future where
hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of hardware.
"What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a lightweig= ht,
efficient means of serving up application: containers."

Containers are cool, but not a panacea

Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are not burdened
with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a full
operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. =A0Compared to
hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be fast and
lean. =A0But they are also limited.

Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it is
impossible to run Windows. =A0Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. =A0 Or another
version of the Linux kernel. =A0Or another Linux distribution which
requires a different kernel. =A0All of those scenarios are best handled
by a real hypervisor. =A0And the security aspect of hypervisors is huge, worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. =A0Still, if you need an
environment within your organization where many workloads can leverage
a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable solution.

However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist that these
problems relating to containers are really application problems in
disguise. =A0Issues about kernel support and security are the results of improper application design, they claim. =A0When we raise the bar on
applications so that they are based solely on access to application
servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- and so
will hypervisors, for the most part. =A0Or that's what some of these advocates claim, at least.

The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated

But is there another scenario which could answer the call for highly
responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not use the
container solution? =A0Maybe one that can actually leverage the
flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most
hypervisors?

Yes, in fact, there is. =A0And the key is in the very
application-centric future which some container advocates believe will
cause the hypervisor to become obsolete.

Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System

Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of replicating a = full
operating system, we can replicate ultra-light application-centric
operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. =A0A number of these
lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, including
the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv. =A0These=
lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud operating
systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to hardware --
because they aren't meant to run on hardware. =A0And they lack
multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to be general
timesharing systems, but dedicated application server systems. =A0As a
result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start up
amazingly quickly in a VM environment. =A0They enable the vision of
light and fast application servers, while preserving the superior
security and flexibility of true hypervisors.

Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty application bath wat= er

So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, efficient
application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, but
cringing at the notion of totally retooling your virtualization
infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, don't
fret. =A0That vision is achievable while maintaining the flexibility and security that mature hypervisors deliver. =A0Focus on a streamlined
application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient application VMs
is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using hypervisors,
containers, or both.


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini
<s= tefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to have upstream
QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use for other POSIX
applications too, so that we can advertise it as a generic solution for
Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative to containers.

On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of
"micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or= rump
kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types
of containers.

However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can
already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle fat old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs,
with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest.

If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog
post about it.

On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote:
See:

* http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07= /vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/
* On the other hand there is this article:
http://www.zdnet.com/= hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/
(both by Simon Crosby)

Generally for the security discussion, which is related, the following
articles may be relevant:
*
http://www.zdnet.com/hyp= ervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-70000278= 46/
* http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03= /computer-security
The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a few useful links)=
despite also being partly a product pitch:
*
http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/
*
http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-f= or-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protecti= on/

Lars

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--f46d0438956918aa3904f68b8d58-- --===============6042483563953622263== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============6042483563953622263==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 18:25:39 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 18:25:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXaiH-0006GP-V8; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 18:25:37 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXaiG-0006GI-4N for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 18:25:36 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:16923] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 1F/F5-06539-F1F34435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 18:25:35 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1396981533!795240!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 24498 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 18:25:34 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-3.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 18:25:34 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,819,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="118001610" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2014 18:25:01 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:25:00 -0400 Received: from kaball.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.59]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WXahg-0007nn-H3; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 19:25:00 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 19:24:59 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Sarah Conway In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> <53442E2C.2090001@xen.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1342847746-932728082-1396979841=:3595" Content-ID: X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --1342847746-932728082-1396979841=:3595 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: Yes, there are: miniOS is similar to OSv but less complete and only supports PV guests. The miniOS approach allows one POSIX application to run within one PV guest virtual machine with minimal operating system overhead. At the same time PV (and the newer PVH) guests are low overhead compared to HVM guests as they don't provide any emulated interfaces. Overall miniOS (or OSv) on a PV guest is a great fit for micro-virtualization. On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Sarah Conway wrote: > I like Stefano's point about=C2=A0Xen building bridges here -- seems like= a new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The > fact that=C2=A0Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary choic= e might play reasonably well. =C2=A0 > Are there are any major technical differences between the miniOS approach= and containers?=C2=A0 > Thanks, >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > I think it's a great post > Lars >=20 > On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.com l= ater > today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely). >=20 > I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone = has > concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you ca= n. > Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished later= tonight. >=20 > It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to highligh= t the > MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms. >=20 > --- >=20 > Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question? >=20 > Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping Yo= ur Hypervisor >=20 > Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the seeming= ly > endless virtues of Linux Containers. =C2=A0I heard claims tha= t hypervisors > were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on inefficie= nt > replication of a large operating system stack in order to ser= ve up > applications. =C2=A0The speaker painted a picture of a future= where > hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of har= dware. > "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a lightweigh= t, > efficient means of serving up application: containers." >=20 > Containers are cool, but not a panacea >=20 > Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are not= burdened > with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a = full > operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. =C2=A0Compar= ed to > hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be fast= and > lean. =C2=A0But they are also limited. >=20 > Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it = is > impossible to run Windows. =C2=A0Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. =C2= =A0 Or another > version of the Linux kernel. =C2=A0Or another Linux distribut= ion which > requires a different kernel. =C2=A0All of those scenarios are= best handled > by a real hypervisor. =C2=A0And the security aspect of hyperv= isors is huge, > worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. =C2=A0Still, if y= ou need an > environment within your organization where many workloads can= leverage > a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable solut= ion. >=20 > However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist th= at these > problems relating to containers are really application proble= ms in > disguise. =C2=A0Issues about kernel support and security are = the results of > improper application design, they claim. =C2=A0When we raise = the bar on > applications so that they are based solely on access to appli= cation > servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- = and so > will hypervisors, for the most part. =C2=A0Or that's what som= e of these > advocates claim, at least. >=20 > The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated >=20 > But is there another scenario which could answer the call for= highly > responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not u= se the > container solution? =C2=A0Maybe one that can actually leverag= e the > flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most > hypervisors? >=20 > Yes, in fact, there is. =C2=A0And the key is in the very > application-centric future which some container advocates bel= ieve will > cause the hypervisor to become obsolete. >=20 > Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System >=20 > Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of replicatin= g a full > operating system, we can replicate ultra-light application-ce= ntric > operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. =C2=A0A nu= mber of these > lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, in= cluding > the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv. = =C2=A0These > lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud operat= ing > systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to hardwa= re -- > because they aren't meant to run on hardware. =C2=A0And they = lack > multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to be= general > timesharing systems, but dedicated application server systems= =2E =C2=A0As a > result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start = up > amazingly quickly in a VM environment. =C2=A0They enable the = vision of > light and fast application servers, while preserving the supe= rior > security and flexibility of true hypervisors. >=20 > Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty applicatio= n bath water >=20 > So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, eff= icient > application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, b= ut > cringing at the notion of totally retooling your virtualizati= on > infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, d= on't > fret. =C2=A0That vision is achievable while maintaining the f= lexibility and > security that mature hypervisors deliver. =C2=A0Focus on a st= reamlined > application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient applica= tion VMs > is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using hypervis= ors, > containers, or both. >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini > wrote: > Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to= have upstream > QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use fo= r other POSIX > applications too, so that we can advertise it as a gene= ric solution for > Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative t= o containers. >=20 > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > Given that most people only use one VM for one ta= sk, the rise of > "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based o= n OSv (miniOS or rump > kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker,= ZeroVM or other types > of containers. >=20 > However what these articles don't take into accou= nt is that Xen can > already handle both kind of workloads extremely w= ell: Xen can handle > fat > old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lig= htweight micro-VMs, > with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV = guest. >=20 > If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be= able to write a blog > post about it. >=20 > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: > See: >=20 > * > http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the= -new-infrastructure-anachronism/ > * On the other hand there is this article: > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pi= llars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ > (both by Simon Crosby) >=20 > Generally for the security discussion, whic= h is related, > the following > articles may be relevant: > * > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds= -potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ > * > http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014= /03/computer-security > The following two may also be useful (and c= ontain quite a > few useful links) > despite also being partly a product pitch: > * > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-v= irtualization-for-the-security-architect/ > * > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security= -architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protect > ion/ >=20 > Lars >=20 > ___________________________________________= ____ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman= /listinfo/publicity >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listi= nfo/publicity >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pu= blicity >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicit= y >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Sarah Conway > PR Manager > The Linux Foundation > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > (978) 578-5300 =C2=A0Cell > Skype: =C2=A0sarah.k.conway >=20 >=20 --1342847746-932728082-1396979841=:3595 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --1342847746-932728082-1396979841=:3595-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 18:25:39 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 18:25:39 +0000 Received: from localhost 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boundary="1342847746-932728082-1396979841=:3595" Content-ID: X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --1342847746-932728082-1396979841=:3595 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: Yes, there are: miniOS is similar to OSv but less complete and only supports PV guests. The miniOS approach allows one POSIX application to run within one PV guest virtual machine with minimal operating system overhead. At the same time PV (and the newer PVH) guests are low overhead compared to HVM guests as they don't provide any emulated interfaces. Overall miniOS (or OSv) on a PV guest is a great fit for micro-virtualization. On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Sarah Conway wrote: > I like Stefano's point about=C2=A0Xen building bridges here -- seems like= a new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The > fact that=C2=A0Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary choic= e might play reasonably well. =C2=A0 > Are there are any major technical differences between the miniOS approach= and containers?=C2=A0 > Thanks, >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > I think it's a great post > Lars >=20 > On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.com l= ater > today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely). >=20 > I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone = has > concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you ca= n. > Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished later= tonight. >=20 > It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to highligh= t the > MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms. >=20 > --- >=20 > Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question? >=20 > Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping Yo= ur Hypervisor >=20 > Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the seeming= ly > endless virtues of Linux Containers. =C2=A0I heard claims tha= t hypervisors > were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on inefficie= nt > replication of a large operating system stack in order to ser= ve up > applications. =C2=A0The speaker painted a picture of a future= where > hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of har= dware. > "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a lightweigh= t, > efficient means of serving up application: containers." >=20 > Containers are cool, but not a panacea >=20 > Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are not= burdened > with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a = full > operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. =C2=A0Compar= ed to > hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be fast= and > lean. =C2=A0But they are also limited. >=20 > Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it = is > impossible to run Windows. =C2=A0Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. =C2= =A0 Or another > version of the Linux kernel. =C2=A0Or another Linux distribut= ion which > requires a different kernel. =C2=A0All of those scenarios are= best handled > by a real hypervisor. =C2=A0And the security aspect of hyperv= isors is huge, > worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. =C2=A0Still, if y= ou need an > environment within your organization where many workloads can= leverage > a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable solut= ion. >=20 > However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist th= at these > problems relating to containers are really application proble= ms in > disguise. =C2=A0Issues about kernel support and security are = the results of > improper application design, they claim. =C2=A0When we raise = the bar on > applications so that they are based solely on access to appli= cation > servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- = and so > will hypervisors, for the most part. =C2=A0Or that's what som= e of these > advocates claim, at least. >=20 > The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated >=20 > But is there another scenario which could answer the call for= highly > responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not u= se the > container solution? =C2=A0Maybe one that can actually leverag= e the > flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most > hypervisors? >=20 > Yes, in fact, there is. =C2=A0And the key is in the very > application-centric future which some container advocates bel= ieve will > cause the hypervisor to become obsolete. >=20 > Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System >=20 > Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of replicatin= g a full > operating system, we can replicate ultra-light application-ce= ntric > operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. =C2=A0A nu= mber of these > lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, in= cluding > the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv. = =C2=A0These > lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud operat= ing > systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to hardwa= re -- > because they aren't meant to run on hardware. =C2=A0And they = lack > multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to be= general > timesharing systems, but dedicated application server systems= =2E =C2=A0As a > result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start = up > amazingly quickly in a VM environment. =C2=A0They enable the = vision of > light and fast application servers, while preserving the supe= rior > security and flexibility of true hypervisors. >=20 > Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty applicatio= n bath water >=20 > So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, eff= icient > application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, b= ut > cringing at the notion of totally retooling your virtualizati= on > infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, d= on't > fret. =C2=A0That vision is achievable while maintaining the f= lexibility and > security that mature hypervisors deliver. =C2=A0Focus on a st= reamlined > application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient applica= tion VMs > is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using hypervis= ors, > containers, or both. >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini > wrote: > Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to= have upstream > QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use fo= r other POSIX > applications too, so that we can advertise it as a gene= ric solution for > Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative t= o containers. >=20 > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > Given that most people only use one VM for one ta= sk, the rise of > "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based o= n OSv (miniOS or rump > kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker,= ZeroVM or other types > of containers. >=20 > However what these articles don't take into accou= nt is that Xen can > already handle both kind of workloads extremely w= ell: Xen can handle > fat > old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lig= htweight micro-VMs, > with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV = guest. >=20 > If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be= able to write a blog > post about it. >=20 > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: > See: >=20 > * > http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the= -new-infrastructure-anachronism/ > * On the other hand there is this article: > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pi= llars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ > (both by Simon Crosby) >=20 > Generally for the security discussion, whic= h is related, > the following > articles may be relevant: > * > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds= -potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ > * > http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014= /03/computer-security > The following two may also be useful (and c= ontain quite a > few useful links) > despite also being partly a product pitch: > * > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-v= irtualization-for-the-security-architect/ > * > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security= -architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protect > ion/ >=20 > Lars >=20 > ___________________________________________= ____ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman= /listinfo/publicity >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listi= nfo/publicity >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pu= blicity >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicit= y >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Sarah Conway > PR Manager > The Linux Foundation > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > (978) 578-5300 =C2=A0Cell > Skype: =C2=A0sarah.k.conway >=20 >=20 --1342847746-932728082-1396979841=:3595 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --1342847746-932728082-1396979841=:3595-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 18:45:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 18:45:25 +0000 Received: from localhost 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List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2085289876108988092==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============2085289876108988092== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bae494ebf010304f68c6280 --047d7bae494ebf010304f68c6280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here's yet another article that just came out on the topic from Steven Vaughan Nichols, who did meet with Mark H. and Richard Phelan at Collab. Don't think this topic came up though. http://blog.smartbear.com/web-monitoring/why-containers-instead-of-hypervisors/ On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stefano Stabellini < stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote: > Yes, there are: miniOS is similar to OSv but less complete and only > supports PV guests. > The miniOS approach allows one POSIX application to run within one PV > guest virtual machine with minimal operating system overhead. At the > same time PV (and the newer PVH) guests are low overhead compared to HVM > guests as they don't provide any emulated interfaces. > Overall miniOS (or OSv) on a PV guest is a great fit for > micro-virtualization. > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Sarah Conway wrote: > > I like Stefano's point about Xen building bridges here -- seems like a > new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The > > fact that Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary choice > might play reasonably well. > > Are there are any major technical differences between the miniOS > approach and containers? > > Thanks, > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > > I think it's a great post > > Lars > > > > On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > > I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.comlater > > today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely). > > > > I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone > has > > concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you > can. > > Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished > later tonight. > > > > It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to > highlight the > > MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms. > > > > --- > > > > Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question? > > > > Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping > Your Hypervisor > > > > Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the > seemingly > > endless virtues of Linux Containers. I heard claims that > hypervisors > > were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on > inefficient > > replication of a large operating system stack in order to > serve up > > applications. The speaker painted a picture of a future > where > > hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of > hardware. > > "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a > lightweight, > > efficient means of serving up application: containers." > > > > Containers are cool, but not a panacea > > > > Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are > not burdened > > with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a > full > > operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. Compared to > > hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be > fast and > > lean. But they are also limited. > > > > Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it > is > > impossible to run Windows. Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. Or > another > > version of the Linux kernel. Or another Linux distribution > which > > requires a different kernel. All of those scenarios are > best handled > > by a real hypervisor. And the security aspect of > hypervisors is huge, > > worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. Still, if you > need an > > environment within your organization where many workloads > can leverage > > a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable > solution. > > > > However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist > that these > > problems relating to containers are really application > problems in > > disguise. Issues about kernel support and security are the > results of > > improper application design, they claim. When we raise the > bar on > > applications so that they are based solely on access to > application > > servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- > and so > > will hypervisors, for the most part. Or that's what some of > these > > advocates claim, at least. > > > > The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated > > > > But is there another scenario which could answer the call > for highly > > responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not > use the > > container solution? Maybe one that can actually leverage the > > flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most > > hypervisors? > > > > Yes, in fact, there is. And the key is in the very > > application-centric future which some container advocates > believe will > > cause the hypervisor to become obsolete. > > > > Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System > > > > Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of > replicating a full > > operating system, we can replicate ultra-light > application-centric > > operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. A number > of these > > lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, > including > > the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv. > These > > lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud > operating > > systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to > hardware -- > > because they aren't meant to run on hardware. And they lack > > multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to > be general > > timesharing systems, but dedicated application server > systems. As a > > result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start > up > > amazingly quickly in a VM environment. They enable the > vision of > > light and fast application servers, while preserving the > superior > > security and flexibility of true hypervisors. > > > > Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty > application bath water > > > > So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, > efficient > > application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, > but > > cringing at the notion of totally retooling your > virtualization > > infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, > don't > > fret. That vision is achievable while maintaining the > flexibility and > > security that mature hypervisors deliver. Focus on a > streamlined > > application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient > application VMs > > is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using > hypervisors, > > containers, or both. > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini > > wrote: > > Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose > to have upstream > > QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use > for other POSIX > > applications too, so that we can advertise it as a > generic solution for > > Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative > to containers. > > > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > Given that most people only use one VM for one > task, the rise of > > "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based > on OSv (miniOS or rump > > kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on > Docker, ZeroVM or other types > > of containers. > > > > However what these articles don't take into > account is that Xen can > > already handle both kind of workloads extremely > well: Xen can handle > > fat > > old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style > lightweight micro-VMs, > > with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV > guest. > > > > If I manage to carve the time to do it I might > be able to write a blog > > post about it. > > > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: > > See: > > > > * > > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ > > * On the other hand there is this article: > > > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ > > (both by Simon Crosby) > > > > Generally for the security discussion, > which is related, > > the following > > articles may be relevant: > > * > > > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ > > * > > > http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security > > The following two may also be useful (and > contain quite a > > few useful links) > > despite also being partly a product pitch: > > * > > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ > > * > > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protect > > ion/ > > > > Lars > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sarah Conway > > PR Manager > > The Linux Foundation > > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > > (978) 578-5300 Cell > > Skype: sarah.k.conway > > > > > -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --047d7bae494ebf010304f68c6280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Here's yet another article that ju= st came out on the topic from Steven Vaughan Nichols, who did meet with Mar= k H. and Richard Phelan at Collab. Don't think this topic came up thoug= h.=A0



On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stefano = Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>= wrote:
Yes, there are: miniOS is similar to OSv but= less complete and only
supports PV guests.
The miniOS approach allows one POSIX application to run within one PV
guest virtual machine with minimal operating system overhead. At the
same time PV (and the newer PVH) guests are low overhead compared to HVM guests as they don't provide any emulated interfaces.
Overall miniOS (or OSv) on a PV guest is a great fit for
micro-virtualization.

On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Sarah Conway wrote:
> I like Stefano's point about=A0Xen building bridges here -- seems = like a new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The
> fact that=A0Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary c= hoice might play reasonably well. =A0
> Are there are any major technical differences between the miniOS appro= ach and containers?=A0
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 I think it's a great post
> =A0 =A0 =A0 Lars
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I've got the following blog post queued fo= r open.citrix.com = later
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 today (it was my turn and this topic seemed ti= mely).
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours= , so if anyone has
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 concerns, please let me know in the next hour = or so if you can.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is auto= published later tonight.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I= wanted to highlight the
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM = app farms.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ---
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Q= uestion?
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't R= equire Scrapping Your Hypervisor
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Recently, I sat in a conference session extoll= ing the seemingly
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 endless virtues of Linux Containers. =A0I hear= d claims that hypervisors
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 were old hat: ancient bloated engines which re= ly on inefficient
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 replication of a large operating system stack = in order to serve up
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 applications. =A0The speaker painted a picture= of a future where
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 hundreds of applications are virtualized on ea= ch piece of hardware.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "What is really needed," glowed the = speaker, "is a lightweight,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 efficient means of serving up application: con= tainers."
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Containers are cool, but not a panacea
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Containers share the same kernel as the host, = so they are not burdened
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs = to replicate a full
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 operating system stack in a hypervisor scenari= o. =A0Compared to
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 hypervisor-generated virtual machines, contain= ers can be fast and
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 lean. =A0But they are also limited.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Since Linux containers share the same kernel a= s the host, it is
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 impossible to run Windows. =A0Or FreeBSD. Or N= etBSD. =A0 Or another
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 version of the Linux kernel. =A0Or another Lin= ux distribution which
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 requires a different kernel. =A0All of those s= cenarios are best handled
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 by a real hypervisor. =A0And the security aspe= ct of hypervisors is huge,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. = =A0Still, if you need an
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 environment within your organization where man= y workloads can leverage
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 a single kernel environment, containers can be= a viable solution.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 However, some of the most vocal container advo= cates insist that these
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 problems relating to containers are really app= lication problems in
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 disguise. =A0Issues about kernel support and s= ecurity are the results of
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 improper application design, they claim. =A0Wh= en we raise the bar on
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 applications so that they are based solely on = access to application
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 servers, then the objections to containers wil= l melt away -- and so
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 will hypervisors, for the most part. =A0Or tha= t's what some of these
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 advocates claim, at least.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 The death of the hypervisor is greatly exagger= ated
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 But is there another scenario which could answ= er the call for highly
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 responsive and lightweight virtual instances w= hich does not use the
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 container solution? =A0Maybe one that can actu= ally leverage the
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 flexibility and security which is part and par= cel with most
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 hypervisors?
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Yes, in fact, there is. =A0And the key is in t= he very
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 application-centric future which some containe= r advocates believe will
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 cause the hypervisor to become obsolete.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System=
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "= bloat" of replicating a full
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 operating system, we can replicate ultra-light= application-centric
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 operating systems which are meant to live in a= VM. =A0A number of these
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 lean, mean virtual operating systems have aris= en recently, including
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudi= us Systems' OSv. =A0These
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 lightweight operating systems, sometimes calle= d "cloud operating
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 systems", lack the expensive drivers need= ed to talk to hardware --
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 because they aren't meant to run on hardwa= re. =A0And they lack
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 multiprocess capabilities because they are not= intended to be general
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 timesharing systems, but dedicated application= server systems. =A0As a
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 result, they are very small, very lightweight,= and can start up
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 amazingly quickly in a VM environment. =A0They= enable the vision of
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 light and fast application servers, while pres= erving the superior
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 security and flexibility of true hypervisors.<= br> >
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with t= he dirty application bath water
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 So if you are intrigued by the vision of masse= s of small, efficient
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 application VMs packed into a minimum of numbe= r of servers, but
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 cringing at the notion of totally retooling yo= ur virtualization
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 infrastructure and rethinking your entire secu= rity mindset, don't
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 fret. =A0That vision is achievable while maint= aining the flexibility and
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 security that mature hypervisors deliver. =A0F= ocus on a streamlined
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 application stack, and the vision of dense, ef= ficient application VMs
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 is achievable -- regardless of whether you are= using hypervisors,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 containers, or both.
>
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabel= lini
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Also this tells us that whatever t= ecnology we choose to have upstream
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure= it is easy to use for other POSIX
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 applications too, so that we can a= dvertise it as a generic solution for
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Xen micro-VMs and position it as a= secure alternative to containers.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabel= lini wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Given that most people= only use one VM for one task, the rise of
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "micro-VMs" = makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 kernels) on traditiona= l hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 of containers.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 However what these art= icles don't take into account is that Xen can
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 already handle both ki= nd of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 fat
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 old-style VMs, with HV= M guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 with miniOS (or rump k= ernels or OSv) inside a PV guest.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 If I manage to carve t= he time to do it I might be able to write a blog
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 post about it.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, La= rs Kurth wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 See:
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 *
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infras= tructure-anachronism/
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 * On the o= ther hand there is this article:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-a= re-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 (both by S= imon Crosby)
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Generally = for the security discussion, which is related,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 the follow= ing
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 articles m= ay be relevant:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 *
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clou= ds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 *
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-securit= y
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 The follow= ing two may also be useful (and contain quite a
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 few useful= links)
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 despite al= so being partly a product pitch:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 *
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-vir= tualization-for-the-security-architect/
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 *
> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-securi= ty-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protect
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ion/
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Lars
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--047d7bae494ebf010304f68c6280-- --===============2085289876108988092== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============2085289876108988092==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 18:45:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 18:45:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXb1Q-0006n8-G5; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 18:45:24 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXb1O-0006n3-FJ for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 18:45:22 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:41563] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 05/D1-13602-1C344435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 18:45:21 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1396982719!7866205!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.52] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.4 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11582 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 18:45:19 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f52.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f52.google.com) (74.125.82.52) by server-14.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 18:45:19 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id k14so1393306wgh.11 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 11:45:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=OvgpbswLkVCg+q0R0iMxiPmjlXuHSYvEXWoV6xo+4XE=; b=TPRPLtMefa9eMYj9RzTFtOkpTzvJLRiWSGAheBqjmY3NkUq73FBya1fRIFqT/hug6R KKMyfagQM/IcCUq3SDLU+s7avh2sE6jRKZXdriaP8eEh1H7g1iV19fzLaNJyK+XhisJH sc3CSkKOo0cedE8cNKotbD7c2Q5lYnGOHDY8k= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=OvgpbswLkVCg+q0R0iMxiPmjlXuHSYvEXWoV6xo+4XE=; b=bOI1tTy8VxWro3dJ/PlVHCF0EtNgEQXe4UJaJy8YqW9NZhWcPVaWlPfjP1bapglj0S XLNy1ul7N7NSO/QGNUHP2RR9TvnjVFM4uB/lY7rb5z/9jxdx2EuPlXUa/A9+2+2WhRJd HEs2OVSRvFU33jyi2GnI00YLjJeoe4XMaVR+HbSjGr2M9kOgaIk2fxU84XG2GkuhXLp4 AJj2XgP52E+zgGculBmPSkQGPpCuzwaDFwa66qbtWV30IiVWsO7kPFRjLhTtmQnhFvh0 tak/1LR9Xmg3hwGtws21EnTuUXTKsGsj9mzUovvuZGjmfKxeHkx+1AgkrWiNFPlZy94Z Hmdw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn75uoYjBnWTbjQv52fHrFE/MMnGcHYZZZlvtrAy34G8H3g97vQIJzOewRwI1f38fLZe8kr MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.201.73 with SMTP id jy9mr5248351wjc.51.1396982719375; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 11:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.221.167 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 11:45:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> <53442E2C.2090001@xen.org> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:45:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: Stefano Stabellini Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2085289876108988092==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============2085289876108988092== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bae494ebf010304f68c6280 --047d7bae494ebf010304f68c6280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here's yet another article that just came out on the topic from Steven Vaughan Nichols, who did meet with Mark H. and Richard Phelan at Collab. Don't think this topic came up though. http://blog.smartbear.com/web-monitoring/why-containers-instead-of-hypervisors/ On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stefano Stabellini < stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote: > Yes, there are: miniOS is similar to OSv but less complete and only > supports PV guests. > The miniOS approach allows one POSIX application to run within one PV > guest virtual machine with minimal operating system overhead. At the > same time PV (and the newer PVH) guests are low overhead compared to HVM > guests as they don't provide any emulated interfaces. > Overall miniOS (or OSv) on a PV guest is a great fit for > micro-virtualization. > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Sarah Conway wrote: > > I like Stefano's point about Xen building bridges here -- seems like a > new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The > > fact that Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary choice > might play reasonably well. > > Are there are any major technical differences between the miniOS > approach and containers? > > Thanks, > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > > I think it's a great post > > Lars > > > > On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > > I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.comlater > > today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely). > > > > I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone > has > > concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you > can. > > Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished > later tonight. > > > > It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to > highlight the > > MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms. > > > > --- > > > > Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question? > > > > Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping > Your Hypervisor > > > > Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the > seemingly > > endless virtues of Linux Containers. I heard claims that > hypervisors > > were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on > inefficient > > replication of a large operating system stack in order to > serve up > > applications. The speaker painted a picture of a future > where > > hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of > hardware. > > "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a > lightweight, > > efficient means of serving up application: containers." > > > > Containers are cool, but not a panacea > > > > Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are > not burdened > > with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a > full > > operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. Compared to > > hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be > fast and > > lean. But they are also limited. > > > > Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it > is > > impossible to run Windows. Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. Or > another > > version of the Linux kernel. Or another Linux distribution > which > > requires a different kernel. All of those scenarios are > best handled > > by a real hypervisor. And the security aspect of > hypervisors is huge, > > worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. Still, if you > need an > > environment within your organization where many workloads > can leverage > > a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable > solution. > > > > However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist > that these > > problems relating to containers are really application > problems in > > disguise. Issues about kernel support and security are the > results of > > improper application design, they claim. When we raise the > bar on > > applications so that they are based solely on access to > application > > servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- > and so > > will hypervisors, for the most part. Or that's what some of > these > > advocates claim, at least. > > > > The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated > > > > But is there another scenario which could answer the call > for highly > > responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not > use the > > container solution? Maybe one that can actually leverage the > > flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most > > hypervisors? > > > > Yes, in fact, there is. And the key is in the very > > application-centric future which some container advocates > believe will > > cause the hypervisor to become obsolete. > > > > Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System > > > > Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of > replicating a full > > operating system, we can replicate ultra-light > application-centric > > operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. A number > of these > > lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, > including > > the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv. > These > > lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud > operating > > systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to > hardware -- > > because they aren't meant to run on hardware. And they lack > > multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to > be general > > timesharing systems, but dedicated application server > systems. As a > > result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start > up > > amazingly quickly in a VM environment. They enable the > vision of > > light and fast application servers, while preserving the > superior > > security and flexibility of true hypervisors. > > > > Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty > application bath water > > > > So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, > efficient > > application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, > but > > cringing at the notion of totally retooling your > virtualization > > infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, > don't > > fret. That vision is achievable while maintaining the > flexibility and > > security that mature hypervisors deliver. Focus on a > streamlined > > application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient > application VMs > > is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using > hypervisors, > > containers, or both. > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini > > wrote: > > Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose > to have upstream > > QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use > for other POSIX > > applications too, so that we can advertise it as a > generic solution for > > Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative > to containers. > > > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > Given that most people only use one VM for one > task, the rise of > > "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based > on OSv (miniOS or rump > > kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on > Docker, ZeroVM or other types > > of containers. > > > > However what these articles don't take into > account is that Xen can > > already handle both kind of workloads extremely > well: Xen can handle > > fat > > old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style > lightweight micro-VMs, > > with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV > guest. > > > > If I manage to carve the time to do it I might > be able to write a blog > > post about it. > > > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: > > See: > > > > * > > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ > > * On the other hand there is this article: > > > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ > > (both by Simon Crosby) > > > > Generally for the security discussion, > which is related, > > the following > > articles may be relevant: > > * > > > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ > > * > > > http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security > > The following two may also be useful (and > contain quite a > > few useful links) > > despite also being partly a product pitch: > > * > > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ > > * > > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protect > > ion/ > > > > Lars > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sarah Conway > > PR Manager > > The Linux Foundation > > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > > (978) 578-5300 Cell > > Skype: sarah.k.conway > > > > > -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --047d7bae494ebf010304f68c6280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Here's yet another article that ju= st came out on the topic from Steven Vaughan Nichols, who did meet with Mar= k H. and Richard Phelan at Collab. Don't think this topic came up thoug= h.=A0



On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stefano = Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>= wrote:
Yes, there are: miniOS is similar to OSv but= less complete and only
supports PV guests.
The miniOS approach allows one POSIX application to run within one PV
guest virtual machine with minimal operating system overhead. At the
same time PV (and the newer PVH) guests are low overhead compared to HVM guests as they don't provide any emulated interfaces.
Overall miniOS (or OSv) on a PV guest is a great fit for
micro-virtualization.

On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Sarah Conway wrote:
> I like Stefano's point about=A0Xen building bridges here -- seems = like a new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The
> fact that=A0Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary c= hoice might play reasonably well. =A0
> Are there are any major technical differences between the miniOS appro= ach and containers?=A0
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 I think it's a great post
> =A0 =A0 =A0 Lars
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I've got the following blog post queued fo= r open.citrix.com = later
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 today (it was my turn and this topic seemed ti= mely).
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours= , so if anyone has
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 concerns, please let me know in the next hour = or so if you can.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is auto= published later tonight.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I= wanted to highlight the
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM = app farms.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ---
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Q= uestion?
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't R= equire Scrapping Your Hypervisor
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Recently, I sat in a conference session extoll= ing the seemingly
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 endless virtues of Linux Containers. =A0I hear= d claims that hypervisors
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 were old hat: ancient bloated engines which re= ly on inefficient
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 replication of a large operating system stack = in order to serve up
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 applications. =A0The speaker painted a picture= of a future where
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 hundreds of applications are virtualized on ea= ch piece of hardware.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "What is really needed," glowed the = speaker, "is a lightweight,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 efficient means of serving up application: con= tainers."
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Containers are cool, but not a panacea
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Containers share the same kernel as the host, = so they are not burdened
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs = to replicate a full
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 operating system stack in a hypervisor scenari= o. =A0Compared to
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 hypervisor-generated virtual machines, contain= ers can be fast and
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 lean. =A0But they are also limited.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Since Linux containers share the same kernel a= s the host, it is
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 impossible to run Windows. =A0Or FreeBSD. Or N= etBSD. =A0 Or another
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 version of the Linux kernel. =A0Or another Lin= ux distribution which
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 requires a different kernel. =A0All of those s= cenarios are best handled
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 by a real hypervisor. =A0And the security aspe= ct of hypervisors is huge,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. = =A0Still, if you need an
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 environment within your organization where man= y workloads can leverage
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 a single kernel environment, containers can be= a viable solution.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 However, some of the most vocal container advo= cates insist that these
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 problems relating to containers are really app= lication problems in
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 disguise. =A0Issues about kernel support and s= ecurity are the results of
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 improper application design, they claim. =A0Wh= en we raise the bar on
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 applications so that they are based solely on = access to application
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 servers, then the objections to containers wil= l melt away -- and so
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 will hypervisors, for the most part. =A0Or tha= t's what some of these
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 advocates claim, at least.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 The death of the hypervisor is greatly exagger= ated
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 But is there another scenario which could answ= er the call for highly
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 responsive and lightweight virtual instances w= hich does not use the
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 container solution? =A0Maybe one that can actu= ally leverage the
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 flexibility and security which is part and par= cel with most
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 hypervisors?
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Yes, in fact, there is. =A0And the key is in t= he very
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 application-centric future which some containe= r advocates believe will
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 cause the hypervisor to become obsolete.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System=
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "= bloat" of replicating a full
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 operating system, we can replicate ultra-light= application-centric
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 operating systems which are meant to live in a= VM. =A0A number of these
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 lean, mean virtual operating systems have aris= en recently, including
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudi= us Systems' OSv. =A0These
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 lightweight operating systems, sometimes calle= d "cloud operating
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 systems", lack the expensive drivers need= ed to talk to hardware --
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 because they aren't meant to run on hardwa= re. =A0And they lack
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 multiprocess capabilities because they are not= intended to be general
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 timesharing systems, but dedicated application= server systems. =A0As a
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 result, they are very small, very lightweight,= and can start up
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 amazingly quickly in a VM environment. =A0They= enable the vision of
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 light and fast application servers, while pres= erving the superior
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 security and flexibility of true hypervisors.<= br> >
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with t= he dirty application bath water
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 So if you are intrigued by the vision of masse= s of small, efficient
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 application VMs packed into a minimum of numbe= r of servers, but
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 cringing at the notion of totally retooling yo= ur virtualization
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 infrastructure and rethinking your entire secu= rity mindset, don't
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 fret. =A0That vision is achievable while maint= aining the flexibility and
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 security that mature hypervisors deliver. =A0F= ocus on a streamlined
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 application stack, and the vision of dense, ef= ficient application VMs
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 is achievable -- regardless of whether you are= using hypervisors,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 containers, or both.
>
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabel= lini
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Also this tells us that whatever t= ecnology we choose to have upstream
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure= it is easy to use for other POSIX
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 applications too, so that we can a= dvertise it as a generic solution for
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Xen micro-VMs and position it as a= secure alternative to containers.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabel= lini wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Given that most people= only use one VM for one task, the rise of
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "micro-VMs" = makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 kernels) on traditiona= l hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 of containers.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 However what these art= icles don't take into account is that Xen can
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 already handle both ki= nd of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 fat
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 old-style VMs, with HV= M guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 with miniOS (or rump k= ernels or OSv) inside a PV guest.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 If I manage to carve t= he time to do it I might be able to write a blog
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 post about it.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, La= rs Kurth wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 See:
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 *
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infras= tructure-anachronism/
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 * On the o= ther hand there is this article:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-a= re-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 (both by S= imon Crosby)
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Generally = for the security discussion, which is related,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 the follow= ing
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 articles m= ay be relevant:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 *
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clou= ds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 *
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-securit= y
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 The follow= ing two may also be useful (and contain quite a
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 few useful= links)
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 despite al= so being partly a product pitch:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 *
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-vir= tualization-for-the-security-architect/
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 *
> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-securi= ty-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protect
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ion/
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Lars
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 __________= _____________________________________
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--047d7bae494ebf010304f68c6280-- --===============2085289876108988092== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============2085289876108988092==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 09 05:08:14 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 05:08:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXkk8-0000w4-IR; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 05:08:12 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXkk7-0000vz-8Q for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 05:08:11 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:45316] by server-13.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 5C/F1-16341-AB5D4435; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 05:08:10 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1397020089!6090628!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.214.44] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_32, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 3394 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2014 05:08:09 -0000 Received: from mail-bk0-f44.google.com (HELO mail-bk0-f44.google.com) (209.85.214.44) by server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Apr 2014 05:08:09 -0000 Received: by mail-bk0-f44.google.com with SMTP id mz13so1939756bkb.3 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 22:08:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jiHHafWlnKSQo+CQUKH0WW4WKEpuumpG0p695M+tKyk=; b=u5eg4Hue61ENZX2SBir7SuTeB5MkyXZdFFTzadPO5+u3yEQMDPN3oJn1R8JfbgEuuH DJU92rOODWXPB7G/QnR3Ju2PgREUul19tYMeml3t4Ol5RF+X1mNm2hkUmACOry1ULSkR cA1sHY2Jev3PUe8w4dr5URwGLZSc3xuEQnuP8OfAAajc1bq6sAeqceJyFKntI7I3h5+9 EKa4JF7lmzfafzP6Er1qhtkEHepSCfXPjB+s3HDHAwarj/O2Qxd24d6edUVJhamQAkBB 0V4LgyZYVv+ibj3WAn6CLhx58VDuxDhOf7rsYNWwKvPpaQe/l4q9JwPAdevxpmpVJfAc vQJA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.209.5 with SMTP id mi5mr5564233lbc.30.1397020089243; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 22:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 22:08:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> <5343E7DD.7030902@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 01:08:09 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: -DV-UwGXzBeOl7HQ_KNoEQVNFfw Message-ID: From: Russ Pavlicek To: Russ Pavlicek Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Roger, I believe the login overstrike issue should now be fixed. If it is not, please let me know. Thanks, Russ On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Russ Pavlicek wrote: >>BTW, login from Chrome on OS X >>seems to be broken, see the following snapshot: > > Not precisely "broken", but it is formatted wrong. The ECC+ plugin is > not behaving well and overstriking another line of text. When I get a > little time on the road (and a semi-working Internet), I'll see if I > can adjust something (if there is something to adjust). > > Thanks, > > Russ > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Roger Pau Monn=E9 = wrote: >> On 08/04/14 11:58, Lars Kurth wrote: >>> Roger (and everyone on the list), >>> you can add events yourself by logging into xenproject.org, going to >>> http://xenproject.org/about/events.html and creating an event. It will >>> go into a moderator queue, as we had spam events in the past >> >> Thanks, I've been able to add it :). BTW, login from Chrome on OS X >> seems to be broken, see the following snapshot: >> >> http://xenbits.xen.org/people/royger/login_fail.png >> >> Roger. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 09 05:08:14 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 05:08:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXkk8-0000w4-IR; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 05:08:12 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXkk7-0000vz-8Q for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 05:08:11 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:45316] by server-13.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 5C/F1-16341-AB5D4435; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 05:08:10 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1397020089!6090628!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.214.44] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_32, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 3394 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2014 05:08:09 -0000 Received: from mail-bk0-f44.google.com (HELO mail-bk0-f44.google.com) (209.85.214.44) by server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Apr 2014 05:08:09 -0000 Received: by mail-bk0-f44.google.com with SMTP id mz13so1939756bkb.3 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 22:08:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jiHHafWlnKSQo+CQUKH0WW4WKEpuumpG0p695M+tKyk=; b=u5eg4Hue61ENZX2SBir7SuTeB5MkyXZdFFTzadPO5+u3yEQMDPN3oJn1R8JfbgEuuH DJU92rOODWXPB7G/QnR3Ju2PgREUul19tYMeml3t4Ol5RF+X1mNm2hkUmACOry1ULSkR cA1sHY2Jev3PUe8w4dr5URwGLZSc3xuEQnuP8OfAAajc1bq6sAeqceJyFKntI7I3h5+9 EKa4JF7lmzfafzP6Er1qhtkEHepSCfXPjB+s3HDHAwarj/O2Qxd24d6edUVJhamQAkBB 0V4LgyZYVv+ibj3WAn6CLhx58VDuxDhOf7rsYNWwKvPpaQe/l4q9JwPAdevxpmpVJfAc vQJA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.209.5 with SMTP id mi5mr5564233lbc.30.1397020089243; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 22:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 22:08:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> <5343E7DD.7030902@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 01:08:09 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: -DV-UwGXzBeOl7HQ_KNoEQVNFfw Message-ID: From: Russ Pavlicek To: Russ Pavlicek Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Roger, I believe the login overstrike issue should now be fixed. If it is not, please let me know. Thanks, Russ On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Russ Pavlicek wrote: >>BTW, login from Chrome on OS X >>seems to be broken, see the following snapshot: > > Not precisely "broken", but it is formatted wrong. The ECC+ plugin is > not behaving well and overstriking another line of text. When I get a > little time on the road (and a semi-working Internet), I'll see if I > can adjust something (if there is something to adjust). > > Thanks, > > Russ > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Roger Pau Monn=E9 = wrote: >> On 08/04/14 11:58, Lars Kurth wrote: >>> Roger (and everyone on the list), >>> you can add events yourself by logging into xenproject.org, going to >>> http://xenproject.org/about/events.html and creating an event. It will >>> go into a moderator queue, as we had spam events in the past >> >> Thanks, I've been able to add it :). BTW, login from Chrome on OS X >> seems to be broken, see the following snapshot: >> >> http://xenbits.xen.org/people/royger/login_fail.png >> >> Roger. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 09 07:24:28 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 07:24:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXmrz-0006vk-FL; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 07:24:27 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXmrx-0006vf-Cs for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 07:24:25 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:24330] by server-12.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id C3/86-03824-8A5F4435; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 07:24:24 +0000 X-Env-Sender: roger.pau@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1397028262!6326714!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21982 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2014 07:24:23 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-16.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Apr 2014 07:24:23 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,824,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="118205806" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2014 07:24:22 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Wed, 9 Apr 2014 03:24:21 -0400 Message-ID: <5344F5A5.6060704@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 09:24:21 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_Pau_Monn=E9?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ Pavlicek References: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> <5343E7DD.7030902@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 09/04/14 07:08, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > Roger, > > I believe the login overstrike issue should now be fixed. If it is > not, please let me know. > Thanks Russ, I can confirm it's now fixed (at least with my browser/OS combination). Roger. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 09 07:24:28 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 07:24:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXmrz-0006vk-FL; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 07:24:27 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXmrx-0006vf-Cs for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 07:24:25 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:24330] by server-12.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id C3/86-03824-8A5F4435; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 07:24:24 +0000 X-Env-Sender: roger.pau@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1397028262!6326714!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21982 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2014 07:24:23 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-16.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Apr 2014 07:24:23 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,824,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="118205806" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2014 07:24:22 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Wed, 9 Apr 2014 03:24:21 -0400 Message-ID: <5344F5A5.6060704@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 09:24:21 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_Pau_Monn=E9?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ Pavlicek References: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> <5343E7DD.7030902@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 09/04/14 07:08, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > Roger, > > I believe the login overstrike issue should now be fixed. If it is > not, please let me know. > Thanks Russ, I can confirm it's now fixed (at least with my browser/OS combination). Roger. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 09 09:32:53 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 09:32:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXosH-0000mu-01; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 09:32:53 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXosF-0000mn-3u for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 09:32:51 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:43926] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 7F/D2-09853-2C315435; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 09:32:50 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1397035960!7971051!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNjMzNzEgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23336 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2014 09:32:41 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-4.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Apr 2014 09:32:41 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,825,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="119426106" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2014 09:32:40 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Wed, 9 Apr 2014 05:32:39 -0400 Message-ID: <1397035956.5295.25.camel@Abyss> From: Dario Faggioli To: Sarah Conway Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 11:32:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> <1396881675.19966.5.camel@Solace> <5342BEE2.4090504@xen.org> <1396972863.19966.23.camel@Solace> <53442D14.6050407@xen.org> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: Gunn Emily , "artem.mygaiev@globallogic.com" , Alex Agizim , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3606015712639009563==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3606015712639009563== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-1gkZCngmnq+7h+J7qCnq" --=-1gkZCngmnq+7h+J7qCnq Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 13:19 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: > Yes, I think we need to be explicit about naming the source in our > text and including the url. >=20 >=20 > Suggest this wording instead: >=20 >=20 > More thoughts from Alex on the state of In-Vehicle Infotainment > appeared recently online in Embedded Computing Design. His recent > blog IVI system sandboxing is worth a full read. The part more > relevant to the Xen Project is reported below: >=20 Wow... I was completely overlooking the possibility of copyright issues... Thanks for pointing out! I've changed the sentence as suggested above. Thanks again, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-1gkZCngmnq+7h+J7qCnq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNFE7QACgkQk4XaBE3IOsSxLgCgiCwga7N9Azv0ryAbtDuorFXS /28AoJFcSeRtcSeZScDE7gPBV71onXhF =kaEW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-1gkZCngmnq+7h+J7qCnq-- --===============3606015712639009563== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============3606015712639009563==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 09 09:32:53 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 09:32:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXosH-0000mu-01; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 09:32:53 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXosF-0000mn-3u for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 09:32:51 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:43926] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 7F/D2-09853-2C315435; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 09:32:50 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1397035960!7971051!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNjMzNzEgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23336 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2014 09:32:41 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-4.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Apr 2014 09:32:41 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,825,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="119426106" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2014 09:32:40 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Wed, 9 Apr 2014 05:32:39 -0400 Message-ID: <1397035956.5295.25.camel@Abyss> From: Dario Faggioli To: Sarah Conway Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 11:32:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1396595141.6295.17.camel@Abyss> <2574717294438496152@unknownmsgid> <1396597467.6295.20.camel@Abyss> <2915457695056222079@unknownmsgid> <1396881675.19966.5.camel@Solace> <5342BEE2.4090504@xen.org> <1396972863.19966.23.camel@Solace> <53442D14.6050407@xen.org> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: Gunn Emily , "artem.mygaiev@globallogic.com" , Alex Agizim , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] LF Collab summit report blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3606015712639009563==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3606015712639009563== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-1gkZCngmnq+7h+J7qCnq" --=-1gkZCngmnq+7h+J7qCnq Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 13:19 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: > Yes, I think we need to be explicit about naming the source in our > text and including the url. >=20 >=20 > Suggest this wording instead: >=20 >=20 > More thoughts from Alex on the state of In-Vehicle Infotainment > appeared recently online in Embedded Computing Design. His recent > blog IVI system sandboxing is worth a full read. The part more > relevant to the Xen Project is reported below: >=20 Wow... I was completely overlooking the possibility of copyright issues... Thanks for pointing out! I've changed the sentence as suggested above. Thanks again, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-1gkZCngmnq+7h+J7qCnq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNFE7QACgkQk4XaBE3IOsSxLgCgiCwga7N9Azv0ryAbtDuorFXS /28AoJFcSeRtcSeZScDE7gPBV71onXhF =kaEW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-1gkZCngmnq+7h+J7qCnq-- --===============3606015712639009563== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============3606015712639009563==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 09 22:21:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 22:21:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WY0sP-0007Qz-Ri; 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boundary="===============3078046757403174915==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3078046757403174915== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bfcf9c2e26b9304f6a1fe89 --047d7bfcf9c2e26b9304f6a1fe89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Sarah. Alex's story on Embedded Computing Design is definitely an exclusive story, so I agree about citing the source. Emily Gunn | Corporate Communications GlobalLogic M +1.512.296.7133 S eyounger82 www.globallogic.com http://www.globallogic.com/email_disclaimer.txt On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: > On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 13:19 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: > > Yes, I think we need to be explicit about naming the source in our > > text and including the url. > > > > > > Suggest this wording instead: > > > > > > More thoughts from Alex on the state of In-Vehicle Infotainment > > appeared recently online in Embedded Computing Design. His recent > > blog IVI system sandboxing is worth a full read. The part more > > relevant to the Xen Project is reported below: > > > Wow... I was completely overlooking the possibility of copyright > issues... Thanks for pointing out! > > I've changed the sentence as suggested above. > > Thanks again, > Dario > > -- > <> (Raistlin Majere) > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli > Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) > > --047d7bfcf9c2e26b9304f6a1fe89 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Sarah. Alex's story on Embedded Computing Desig= n is definitely an exclusive story, so I agree about citing the source.


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On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Dario Fa= ggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com> wrote:
On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 13:19 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote:
> Yes, I think we need to be explicit about naming the source in our
> text and including the url.
>
>
> Suggest this wording instead:
>
>
> More thoughts from Alex on the state of In-Vehicle Infotainment
> appeared recently online in Embedded Computing Design. His recent
> blog IVI system sandboxing is worth a full read. The part more
> relevant to the Xen Project is reported below:
>
Wow... I was completely overlooking the possibility of copyright
issues... Thanks for pointing out!

I've changed the sentence as suggested above.

Thanks again,
Dario

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Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli
Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK)


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Alex's story on Embedded Computing Design is definitely an exclusive story, so I agree about citing the source. Emily Gunn | Corporate Communications GlobalLogic M +1.512.296.7133 S eyounger82 www.globallogic.com http://www.globallogic.com/email_disclaimer.txt On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: > On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 13:19 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: > > Yes, I think we need to be explicit about naming the source in our > > text and including the url. > > > > > > Suggest this wording instead: > > > > > > More thoughts from Alex on the state of In-Vehicle Infotainment > > appeared recently online in Embedded Computing Design. His recent > > blog IVI system sandboxing is worth a full read. The part more > > relevant to the Xen Project is reported below: > > > Wow... I was completely overlooking the possibility of copyright > issues... Thanks for pointing out! > > I've changed the sentence as suggested above. > > Thanks again, > Dario > > -- > <> (Raistlin Majere) > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli > Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) > > --047d7bfcf9c2e26b9304f6a1fe89 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Sarah. Alex's story on Embedded Computing Desig= n is definitely an exclusive story, so I agree about citing the source.


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On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Dario Fa= ggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com> wrote:
On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 13:19 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote:
> Yes, I think we need to be explicit about naming the source in our
> text and including the url.
>
>
> Suggest this wording instead:
>
>
> More thoughts from Alex on the state of In-Vehicle Infotainment
> appeared recently online in Embedded Computing Design. His recent
> blog IVI system sandboxing is worth a full read. The part more
> relevant to the Xen Project is reported below:
>
Wow... I was completely overlooking the possibility of copyright
issues... Thanks for pointing out!

I've changed the sentence as suggested above.

Thanks again,
Dario

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<<This happens because I choose it to happen!>> (Raistlin Majer= e)
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Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli
Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK)


--047d7bfcf9c2e26b9304f6a1fe89-- --===============3078046757403174915== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============3078046757403174915==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Apr 11 15:40:32 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 15:40:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WYdZA-0002RS-3f; Fri, 11 Apr 2014 15:40:32 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WYdZ9-0002RE-7I for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2014 15:40:31 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:44848] by server-5.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 7C/3B-26413-EEC08435; Fri, 11 Apr 2014 15:40:30 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1397230820!7800246!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNTM1NDggKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19506 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2014 15:40:21 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 11 Apr 2014 15:40:21 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,842,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="119075325" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 11 Apr 2014 15:40:19 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Fri, 11 Apr 2014 11:40:19 -0400 Message-ID: <1397230818.19966.53.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Paul Durrant Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 17:40:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1396451496-5716-1-git-send-email-paul.durrant@citrix.com> References: <1396451496-5716-1-git-send-email-paul.durrant@citrix.com> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] [Xen-devel] [PATCH v4 0/8] Support for running secondary emulators X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0960939795289131758==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============0960939795289131758== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-0HBze0iiYyw0VSR9zCOt" --=-0HBze0iiYyw0VSR9zCOt Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Moving the conversation to publicity mailing list, as I'm talking =20 about the blog] On mer, 2014-04-02 at 16:11 +0100, Paul Durrant wrote: > This patch series adds the ioreq server interface which I mentioned in > my talk at the Xen developer summit in Edinburgh at the end of last year. > The code is based on work originally done by Julien Grall but has been > re-written to allow existing versions of QEMU to work unmodified. >=20 Hey Paul, I was wondering about this since a while, but I only came round to send this email now... Do you think this is a good topic for a blog post? I happen to think it is. In case the answer is yes, I'm not sure whether it would be better to do it now, or when the feature will be more ready, if not completely upstreamed, but again, in general, I think this could be a cool thing we want out users/readers to know about! Thoughts? Would you be up for that? Thanks and Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-0HBze0iiYyw0VSR9zCOt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNIDOIACgkQk4XaBE3IOsRGLwCdFpKhXqGd9xylw7AQW3SOAFDL EjAAnifWqHaKqrSiojYEdTwrS16kN/Le =bOfu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-0HBze0iiYyw0VSR9zCOt-- --===============0960939795289131758== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============0960939795289131758==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Apr 11 15:40:32 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 15:40:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WYdZA-0002RS-3f; Fri, 11 Apr 2014 15:40:32 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WYdZ9-0002RE-7I for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2014 15:40:31 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:44848] by server-5.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 7C/3B-26413-EEC08435; Fri, 11 Apr 2014 15:40:30 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1397230820!7800246!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNTM1NDggKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19506 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2014 15:40:21 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 11 Apr 2014 15:40:21 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,842,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="119075325" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 11 Apr 2014 15:40:19 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Fri, 11 Apr 2014 11:40:19 -0400 Message-ID: <1397230818.19966.53.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Paul Durrant Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 17:40:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1396451496-5716-1-git-send-email-paul.durrant@citrix.com> References: <1396451496-5716-1-git-send-email-paul.durrant@citrix.com> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] [Xen-devel] [PATCH v4 0/8] Support for running secondary emulators X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0960939795289131758==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============0960939795289131758== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-0HBze0iiYyw0VSR9zCOt" --=-0HBze0iiYyw0VSR9zCOt Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Moving the conversation to publicity mailing list, as I'm talking =20 about the blog] On mer, 2014-04-02 at 16:11 +0100, Paul Durrant wrote: > This patch series adds the ioreq server interface which I mentioned in > my talk at the Xen developer summit in Edinburgh at the end of last year. > The code is based on work originally done by Julien Grall but has been > re-written to allow existing versions of QEMU to work unmodified. >=20 Hey Paul, I was wondering about this since a while, but I only came round to send this email now... Do you think this is a good topic for a blog post? I happen to think it is. In case the answer is yes, I'm not sure whether it would be better to do it now, or when the feature will be more ready, if not completely upstreamed, but again, in general, I think this could be a cool thing we want out users/readers to know about! Thoughts? Would you be up for that? Thanks and Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-0HBze0iiYyw0VSR9zCOt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNIDOIACgkQk4XaBE3IOsRGLwCdFpKhXqGd9xylw7AQW3SOAFDL EjAAnifWqHaKqrSiojYEdTwrS16kN/Le =bOfu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-0HBze0iiYyw0VSR9zCOt-- --===============0960939795289131758== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============0960939795289131758==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 16 12:32:28 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:32:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaP0t-0001ZV-1N; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:32:27 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaP0r-0001ZQ-DA for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:32:25 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:24519] by server-5.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id F5/53-18761-8587E435; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:32:24 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1397651543!5827669!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.49] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 29378 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2014 12:32:23 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f49.google.com) (74.125.82.49) by server-12.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Apr 2014 12:32:23 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id a1so10960206wgh.20 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 05:32:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DGyLEX2uMKTi2t3iUIfna8oGKNbCOLcWKc5UEroBAnc=; b=tFGKrKKr8UdcE+VIwhkZ/rvO6csxkD+Tm33i4L95Ii6XgRsgyG1Qstc7zhEDCQxzJl 22WkEt6Z0A5ZWdN5U88ASMZJJQh5zDHoQiVvqSxb3jBzBifk0clOJf4ZO6oOteEjgfd/ 1575cuRlLMPB4o4pY8WQAEk3SS0tgazxK4PAcA1vzLUPPtQRDE1lAvPMIKZo8nltnuET XwJSLumukhcY/SIt8jTcAc+9UwrKJ09csWs71W/204/QbJ+7HNXIZBjwcdBx/8n3Wa0Q eDg1H94/rmEtQmyUYKzlHJ5Hjo1RAw+TszIwnMkmeYt2mL0O7A/VWZC6o7f5iz7bi3Wn S0hg== X-Received: by 10.194.190.42 with SMTP id gn10mr6925193wjc.9.1397651543284; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 05:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. 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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gc2sm3401251wic.3.2014.04.16.05.32.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Apr 2014 05:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <534E7855.7070206@xen.org> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:32:21 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Publicity] We have not had a blog post for a while ... X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Any takers? Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 16 12:45:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:45:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaPDW-00024G-Nh; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:45:30 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaPDV-000249-6R for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:45:29 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:7475] by server-7.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id A5/D4-20531-86B7E435; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:45:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1397652327!7854142!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.217.169] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.4 required=7.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25559 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2014 12:45:27 -0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (HELO mail-lb0-f169.google.com) (209.85.217.169) by server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Apr 2014 12:45:27 -0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id q8so8291926lbi.28 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 05:45:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=lPKq/TtrmeFQbPOX1phBLDIxoy+ao0bdbBxGKELiML8=; b=LK+ugGnTEtyUHYAQ+Bn6FBiGGRB5knQEIkoZY0XdUwO3mW0d3iHmGtYRBLgXyXUFoR OtMzsRpdhGSzRnqPOqPxRTIMCp/bvk0c5SnK28stJt4HrvntT7sMe4Fv6qH6/I/DgYqu 6elNfJVhn9TXbphvCYgLEeoo8sqk+03vQhtO0aCE+P/TxnYzOfJvfiRFs/6yOuh3XTRT ffztZpT5il6SZsfv2iE2lUezPpV7+0XIwvMX/jih7Btcrtl63IP+z2xYgWCPpdwoLz9Z Sw2dw+w+dGo4t4Oze/aFAwJW8ZHSJ9HFZW3dOsqwQFXRx8Z0JVY/8pOvcx60JQY7htg4 ldKw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.131.65 with SMTP id ok1mr1195714lbb.51.1397652326745; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 05:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 05:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 05:45:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <534E7855.7070206@xen.org> References: <534E7855.7070206@xen.org> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 08:45:26 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: B1mJdtvBrX_uR9vfUfUvzulyNss Message-ID: From: Russ Pavlicek To: Lars Kurth Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] We have not had a blog post for a while ... X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4397616697625272290==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============4397616697625272290== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3439e4748e2b04f7284ab2 --047d7b3439e4748e2b04f7284ab2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Well, I need to promote the User Summit CFP so a blog is in order there. I could also do a (short) Xen4CentOS HowTo, based on my recent Dojo talk, if that is of interest to folks. On Apr 16, 2014 8:32 AM, "Lars Kurth" wrote: > Any takers? > Lars > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > --047d7b3439e4748e2b04f7284ab2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well, I need to promote the User Summit CFP so a blog is in = order there.

I could also do a (short) Xen4CentOS HowTo, based on my rece= nt Dojo talk, if that is of interest to folks.

On Apr 16, 2014 8:32 AM, "Lars Kurth" = <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:=
Any takers?
Lars

_______________________________________________
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Publici= ty@lists.xenproject.org
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--047d7b3439e4748e2b04f7284ab2-- --===============4397616697625272290== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============4397616697625272290==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 16 12:45:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:45:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaPDW-00024G-Nh; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:45:30 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaPDV-000249-6R for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:45:29 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:7475] by server-7.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id A5/D4-20531-86B7E435; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:45:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1397652327!7854142!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.217.169] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.4 required=7.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25559 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2014 12:45:27 -0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (HELO mail-lb0-f169.google.com) (209.85.217.169) by server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Apr 2014 12:45:27 -0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id q8so8291926lbi.28 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 05:45:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=lPKq/TtrmeFQbPOX1phBLDIxoy+ao0bdbBxGKELiML8=; b=LK+ugGnTEtyUHYAQ+Bn6FBiGGRB5knQEIkoZY0XdUwO3mW0d3iHmGtYRBLgXyXUFoR OtMzsRpdhGSzRnqPOqPxRTIMCp/bvk0c5SnK28stJt4HrvntT7sMe4Fv6qH6/I/DgYqu 6elNfJVhn9TXbphvCYgLEeoo8sqk+03vQhtO0aCE+P/TxnYzOfJvfiRFs/6yOuh3XTRT ffztZpT5il6SZsfv2iE2lUezPpV7+0XIwvMX/jih7Btcrtl63IP+z2xYgWCPpdwoLz9Z Sw2dw+w+dGo4t4Oze/aFAwJW8ZHSJ9HFZW3dOsqwQFXRx8Z0JVY/8pOvcx60JQY7htg4 ldKw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.131.65 with SMTP id ok1mr1195714lbb.51.1397652326745; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 05:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 05:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 05:45:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <534E7855.7070206@xen.org> References: <534E7855.7070206@xen.org> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 08:45:26 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: B1mJdtvBrX_uR9vfUfUvzulyNss Message-ID: From: Russ Pavlicek To: Lars Kurth Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] We have not had a blog post for a while ... X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4397616697625272290==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============4397616697625272290== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3439e4748e2b04f7284ab2 --047d7b3439e4748e2b04f7284ab2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Well, I need to promote the User Summit CFP so a blog is in order there. I could also do a (short) Xen4CentOS HowTo, based on my recent Dojo talk, if that is of interest to folks. On Apr 16, 2014 8:32 AM, "Lars Kurth" wrote: > Any takers? > Lars > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > --047d7b3439e4748e2b04f7284ab2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well, I need to promote the User Summit CFP so a blog is in = order there.

I could also do a (short) Xen4CentOS HowTo, based on my rece= nt Dojo talk, if that is of interest to folks.

On Apr 16, 2014 8:32 AM, "Lars Kurth" = <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:=
Any takers?
Lars

_______________________________________________
Publicity mailing list
Publici= ty@lists.xenproject.org
http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin= fo/publicity
--047d7b3439e4748e2b04f7284ab2-- --===============4397616697625272290== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============4397616697625272290==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 16 13:38:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:38:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaQ3C-00049b-FT; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:38:54 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaQ3B-00049W-00 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:38:53 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:28424] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 62/26-09853-CE78E435; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:38:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1397655522!9493520!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNTM1MjMgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12689 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2014 13:38:43 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-11.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Apr 2014 13:38:43 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,872,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="120496330" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 16 Apr 2014 13:38:25 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 09:38:24 -0400 Message-ID: <1397655503.6102.22.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 15:38:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: <534E7855.7070206@xen.org> References: <534E7855.7070206@xen.org> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] We have not had a blog post for a while ... X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0757125629765432987==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============0757125629765432987== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-1NJrCOIv8UUkVMWoLdfj" --=-1NJrCOIv8UUkVMWoLdfj Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On mer, 2014-04-16 at 13:32 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > Any takers? > We did, actually, once per week, as usual. Julien "owns" us a blog-ified version of his FOSDEM presentation (how to port a new guest on Xen on ARM), and I was right about to ping him, but for next week, as for this one, I'll be reblogging Luis Rodriguez's oxenstored piece. Julien, what do you think? Will next week be ok for you? Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-1NJrCOIv8UUkVMWoLdfj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNOh88ACgkQk4XaBE3IOsSHFgCePyouvvNXVcEBvjis7fHI0R07 GOQAn1urbGxQe0WRSGthUvzjmWzdnf3O =lDIc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-1NJrCOIv8UUkVMWoLdfj-- --===============0757125629765432987== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============0757125629765432987==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 16 13:38:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:38:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaQ3C-00049b-FT; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:38:54 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaQ3B-00049W-00 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:38:53 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:28424] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 62/26-09853-CE78E435; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:38:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1397655522!9493520!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNTM1MjMgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12689 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2014 13:38:43 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-11.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Apr 2014 13:38:43 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,872,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="120496330" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 16 Apr 2014 13:38:25 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 09:38:24 -0400 Message-ID: <1397655503.6102.22.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 15:38:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: <534E7855.7070206@xen.org> References: <534E7855.7070206@xen.org> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] We have not had a blog post for a while ... X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0757125629765432987==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============0757125629765432987== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-1NJrCOIv8UUkVMWoLdfj" --=-1NJrCOIv8UUkVMWoLdfj Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On mer, 2014-04-16 at 13:32 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > Any takers? > We did, actually, once per week, as usual. Julien "owns" us a blog-ified version of his FOSDEM presentation (how to port a new guest on Xen on ARM), and I was right about to ping him, but for next week, as for this one, I'll be reblogging Luis Rodriguez's oxenstored piece. Julien, what do you think? Will next week be ok for you? Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-1NJrCOIv8UUkVMWoLdfj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNOh88ACgkQk4XaBE3IOsSHFgCePyouvvNXVcEBvjis7fHI0R07 GOQAn1urbGxQe0WRSGthUvzjmWzdnf3O =lDIc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-1NJrCOIv8UUkVMWoLdfj-- --===============0757125629765432987== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============0757125629765432987==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 00:09:08 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:09:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaZt5-0008TH-SU; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:09:07 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaZt4-0008TC-Nk for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:09:06 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:10821] by server-7.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id E9/6A-17726-1AB1F435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:09:05 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1397693335!8803522!1 X-Originating-IP: [185.25.65.24] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNDk1NjEgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26926 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 00:08:55 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (185.25.65.24) by server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 00:08:55 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,875,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="14163569" Received: from unknown (HELO AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.69.60.9]) by AMSPIP01.EU.Citrix.com with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2014 00:08:55 +0000 Received: from AMSPEX01CL01.citrite.net ([169.254.6.55]) by AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([10.69.46.34]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:08:55 +0200 From: Dario Faggioli To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Thread-Topic: Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored Thread-Index: Ac9Z0FaBx4OCwplOSJe6nTkB/3sQeA== Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:08:54 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.69.46.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: AMS1 Cc: Lars Kurth Subject: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hello publicity folks, This week, we're reblogging this excellent piece from Luis: http://www.do-not-panic.com/2014/04/summary-of-gains-of-xen-oxenstored.html A draft is available here: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2014/04/18/9124/?preview=true&preview_id=9124&preview_nonce=6318335793 How do you find it? I scheduled it to go live Friday (April 18th) morning, mostly because I won't be working on Thursday (April 17th), so I won't be able to pick up on any feedback. However, if you're happy with it, or if you're fine with doing any modification yourself, feel free to reschedule or publish it directly. I actually expect this to be quite straightforward (it's a reblog, and the original post was really really nice already), but one never knows. :-) Thanks and Regards, Dario -- <> (Raistlin Majere) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 00:09:08 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:09:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaZt5-0008TH-SU; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:09:07 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaZt4-0008TC-Nk for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:09:06 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:10821] by server-7.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id E9/6A-17726-1AB1F435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:09:05 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1397693335!8803522!1 X-Originating-IP: [185.25.65.24] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNDk1NjEgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26926 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 00:08:55 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (185.25.65.24) by server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 00:08:55 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,875,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="14163569" Received: from unknown (HELO AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.69.60.9]) by AMSPIP01.EU.Citrix.com with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2014 00:08:55 +0000 Received: from AMSPEX01CL01.citrite.net ([169.254.6.55]) by AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([10.69.46.34]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:08:55 +0200 From: Dario Faggioli To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Thread-Topic: Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored Thread-Index: Ac9Z0FaBx4OCwplOSJe6nTkB/3sQeA== Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:08:54 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.69.46.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: AMS1 Cc: Lars Kurth Subject: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hello publicity folks, This week, we're reblogging this excellent piece from Luis: http://www.do-not-panic.com/2014/04/summary-of-gains-of-xen-oxenstored.html A draft is available here: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2014/04/18/9124/?preview=true&preview_id=9124&preview_nonce=6318335793 How do you find it? I scheduled it to go live Friday (April 18th) morning, mostly because I won't be working on Thursday (April 17th), so I won't be able to pick up on any feedback. However, if you're happy with it, or if you're fine with doing any modification yourself, feel free to reschedule or publish it directly. I actually expect this to be quite straightforward (it's a reblog, and the original post was really really nice already), but one never knows. :-) Thanks and Regards, Dario -- <> (Raistlin Majere) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 02:57:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:57:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WacVu-0002im-7Y; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:57:22 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WacVs-0002ih-Tw for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:57:21 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:64591] by server-8.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 61/04-01877-F034F435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:57:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1397703429!8832537!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNTY2NDAgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11249 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 02:57:10 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 02:57:10 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,876,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="121892426" Received: from sjcpex01cl02.citrite.net ([10.216.14.144]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 17 Apr 2014 02:57:07 +0000 Received: from SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.3.81]) by SJCPEX01CL02.citrite.net ([10.216.14.144]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 19:57:07 -0700 From: Russell Pavlicek To: Dario Faggioli , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Thread-Topic: Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored Thread-Index: Ac9Z0FaBx4OCwplOSJe6nTkB/3sQeAAFSlU2 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:57:06 +0000 Message-ID: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.13.112.14] MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Lars Kurth Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org FYI/FWIW: I fixed the fact that there was no title to the blog (scraped the title from the original blog), corrected a typo, updated a bunch of links to use xenproject.org instead of xen.org, and repaired a few minor formatting issues from undesirable carriage returns. Russ Pavlicek Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems Home Office: +1-301-829-5327 Mobile: +1-240-397-0199 UK VoIP: +44 1223 852 894 ________________________________________ From: Dario Faggioli Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:08 PM To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Cc: mcgrof@do-not-panic.com; Lars Kurth; Russell Pavlicek Subject: Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored Hello publicity folks, This week, we're reblogging this excellent piece from Luis: http://www.do-not-panic.com/2014/04/summary-of-gains-of-xen-oxenstored.html A draft is available here: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2014/04/18/9124/?preview=true&preview_id=9124&preview_nonce=6318335793 How do you find it? I scheduled it to go live Friday (April 18th) morning, mostly because I won't be working on Thursday (April 17th), so I won't be able to pick up on any feedback. However, if you're happy with it, or if you're fine with doing any modification yourself, feel free to reschedule or publish it directly. I actually expect this to be quite straightforward (it's a reblog, and the original post was really really nice already), but one never knows. :-) Thanks and Regards, Dario -- <> (Raistlin Majere) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 02:57:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:57:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WacVu-0002im-7Y; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:57:22 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WacVs-0002ih-Tw for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:57:21 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:64591] by server-8.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 61/04-01877-F034F435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:57:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1397703429!8832537!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNTY2NDAgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11249 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 02:57:10 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 02:57:10 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,876,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="121892426" Received: from sjcpex01cl02.citrite.net ([10.216.14.144]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 17 Apr 2014 02:57:07 +0000 Received: from SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.3.81]) by SJCPEX01CL02.citrite.net ([10.216.14.144]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 19:57:07 -0700 From: Russell Pavlicek To: Dario Faggioli , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Thread-Topic: Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored Thread-Index: Ac9Z0FaBx4OCwplOSJe6nTkB/3sQeAAFSlU2 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:57:06 +0000 Message-ID: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.13.112.14] MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Lars Kurth Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org FYI/FWIW: I fixed the fact that there was no title to the blog (scraped the title from the original blog), corrected a typo, updated a bunch of links to use xenproject.org instead of xen.org, and repaired a few minor formatting issues from undesirable carriage returns. Russ Pavlicek Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems Home Office: +1-301-829-5327 Mobile: +1-240-397-0199 UK VoIP: +44 1223 852 894 ________________________________________ From: Dario Faggioli Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:08 PM To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Cc: mcgrof@do-not-panic.com; Lars Kurth; Russell Pavlicek Subject: Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored Hello publicity folks, This week, we're reblogging this excellent piece from Luis: http://www.do-not-panic.com/2014/04/summary-of-gains-of-xen-oxenstored.html A draft is available here: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2014/04/18/9124/?preview=true&preview_id=9124&preview_nonce=6318335793 How do you find it? I scheduled it to go live Friday (April 18th) morning, mostly because I won't be working on Thursday (April 17th), so I won't be able to pick up on any feedback. However, if you're happy with it, or if you're fine with doing any modification yourself, feel free to reschedule or publish it directly. I actually expect this to be quite straightforward (it's a reblog, and the original post was really really nice already), but one never knows. :-) Thanks and Regards, Dario -- <> (Raistlin Majere) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 10:20:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:20:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WajQv-0002ed-1P; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:20:41 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WajQu-0002eY-8l for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:20:40 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:30691] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 37/62-06539-7FAAF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:20:39 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1397730037!9716836!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1476 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 10:20:38 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 10:20:38 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,878,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="120829372" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2014 10:20:38 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 06:20:36 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WajQp-0000uj-V8; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:20:35 +0100 Message-ID: <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:20:31 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russell Pavlicek , Dario Faggioli , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> In-Reply-To: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Lars Kurth Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. This blog makes it seem like it's something new. Also, I'm not sure what the average person learns from this -- if you don't already know about functional programming, the oxenstored description is unlikely to mean anything to you. Some better framing might help. -George On 04/17/2014 03:57 AM, Russell Pavlicek wrote: > FYI/FWIW: I fixed the fact that there was no title to the blog (scraped the title from the original blog), corrected a typo, updated a bunch of links to use xenproject.org instead of xen.org, and repaired a few minor formatting issues from undesirable carriage returns. > > Russ Pavlicek > Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems > Home Office: +1-301-829-5327 > Mobile: +1-240-397-0199 > UK VoIP: +44 1223 852 894 > ________________________________________ > From: Dario Faggioli > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:08 PM > To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org > Cc: mcgrof@do-not-panic.com; Lars Kurth; Russell Pavlicek > Subject: Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored > > Hello publicity folks, > > This week, we're reblogging this excellent piece from Luis: http://www.do-not-panic.com/2014/04/summary-of-gains-of-xen-oxenstored.html > > A draft is available here: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2014/04/18/9124/?preview=true&preview_id=9124&preview_nonce=6318335793 > > How do you find it? I scheduled it to go live Friday (April 18th) morning, mostly because I won't be working on Thursday (April 17th), so I won't be able to pick up on any feedback. However, if you're happy with it, or if you're fine with doing any modification yourself, feel free to reschedule or publish it directly. I actually expect this to be quite straightforward (it's a reblog, and the original post was really really nice already), but one never knows. :-) > > Thanks and Regards, > Dario > > -- > <> (Raistlin Majere) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli > Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 10:20:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:20:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WajQv-0002ed-1P; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:20:41 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WajQu-0002eY-8l for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:20:40 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:30691] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 37/62-06539-7FAAF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:20:39 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1397730037!9716836!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1476 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 10:20:38 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 10:20:38 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,878,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="120829372" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2014 10:20:38 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 06:20:36 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WajQp-0000uj-V8; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:20:35 +0100 Message-ID: <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:20:31 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russell Pavlicek , Dario Faggioli , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> In-Reply-To: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Lars Kurth Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. This blog makes it seem like it's something new. Also, I'm not sure what the average person learns from this -- if you don't already know about functional programming, the oxenstored description is unlikely to mean anything to you. Some better framing might help. -George On 04/17/2014 03:57 AM, Russell Pavlicek wrote: > FYI/FWIW: I fixed the fact that there was no title to the blog (scraped the title from the original blog), corrected a typo, updated a bunch of links to use xenproject.org instead of xen.org, and repaired a few minor formatting issues from undesirable carriage returns. > > Russ Pavlicek > Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems > Home Office: +1-301-829-5327 > Mobile: +1-240-397-0199 > UK VoIP: +44 1223 852 894 > ________________________________________ > From: Dario Faggioli > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:08 PM > To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org > Cc: mcgrof@do-not-panic.com; Lars Kurth; Russell Pavlicek > Subject: Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored > > Hello publicity folks, > > This week, we're reblogging this excellent piece from Luis: http://www.do-not-panic.com/2014/04/summary-of-gains-of-xen-oxenstored.html > > A draft is available here: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2014/04/18/9124/?preview=true&preview_id=9124&preview_nonce=6318335793 > > How do you find it? I scheduled it to go live Friday (April 18th) morning, mostly because I won't be working on Thursday (April 17th), so I won't be able to pick up on any feedback. However, if you're happy with it, or if you're fine with doing any modification yourself, feel free to reschedule or publish it directly. I actually expect this to be quite straightforward (it's a reblog, and the original post was really really nice already), but one never knows. :-) > > Thanks and Regards, > Dario > > -- > <> (Raistlin Majere) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli > Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 10:28:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WajYP-0003bd-LP; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:25 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WajYO-0003bQ-H0 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:24 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:53822] by server-7.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 43/33-20531-7CCAF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Campbell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1397730501!8077639!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25740 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 10:28:23 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-12.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 10:28:23 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,878,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="120830533" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2014 10:28:22 +0000 Received: from [10.80.2.80] (10.80.2.80) by FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 06:28:20 -0400 Message-ID: <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> From: Ian Campbell To: George Dunlap Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:28:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> Organization: Citrix Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.5-2+b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [10.80.2.80] X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Lars Kurth , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; > oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. Has it really been 5 years? It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a bad thing to me. Ian. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 10:28:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WajYP-0003bd-LP; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:25 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WajYO-0003bQ-H0 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:24 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:53822] by server-7.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 43/33-20531-7CCAF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Campbell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1397730501!8077639!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25740 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 10:28:23 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-12.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 10:28:23 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,878,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="120830533" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2014 10:28:22 +0000 Received: from [10.80.2.80] (10.80.2.80) by FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 06:28:20 -0400 Message-ID: <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> From: Ian Campbell To: George Dunlap Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:28:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> Organization: Citrix Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.5-2+b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [10.80.2.80] X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Lars Kurth , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; > oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. Has it really been 5 years? It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a bad thing to me. Ian. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 10:28:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WajYU-0003cf-Mr; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:30 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WajYT-0003cK-FP for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:29 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:19924] by server-7.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id FB/D5-17726-CCCAF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: anil@recoil.org X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1397730498!8883233!1 X-Originating-IP: [89.16.177.154] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNTc0MTcgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 22100 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 10:28:18 -0000 Received: from recoil.dh.bytemark.co.uk (HELO dark.recoil.org) (89.16.177.154) by server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 10:28:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 10989 invoked by uid 634); 17 Apr 2014 10:28:18 -0000 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED X-Spam-Check-By: dark.recoil.org Received: from volstagg-0.srg.cl.cam.ac.uk (HELO flick.office) (128.232.32.232) (smtp-auth username remote@recoil.org, mechanism cram-md5) by dark.recoil.org (qpsmtpd/0.84) with ESMTPA; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:28:13 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Anil Madhavapeddy In-Reply-To: <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:28:10 +0100 Message-Id: <07542534-882E-440E-8124-3458EAFCA875@recoil.org> References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> To: George Dunlap X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on dark.recoil.org Cc: Lars Kurth , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Dave is actually working on a big refresh of oxenstored to give it the ability to log its entire database history to Git (so you can debug it using standard command-line tools). This is a pretty big piece of work, so it may be worth holding off on this piece until Dave's ready to blog it (I suspect fairly soon). CCing Dave... -anil On 17 Apr 2014, at 11:20, George Dunlap wrote: > My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. This blog makes it seem like it's something new. > > Also, I'm not sure what the average person learns from this -- if you don't already know about functional programming, the oxenstored description is unlikely to mean anything to you. > > Some better framing might help. > > -George > > On 04/17/2014 03:57 AM, Russell Pavlicek wrote: >> FYI/FWIW: I fixed the fact that there was no title to the blog (scraped the title from the original blog), corrected a typo, updated a bunch of links to use xenproject.org instead of xen.org, and repaired a few minor formatting issues from undesirable carriage returns. >> >> Russ Pavlicek >> Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems >> Home Office: +1-301-829-5327 >> Mobile: +1-240-397-0199 >> UK VoIP: +44 1223 852 894 >> ________________________________________ >> From: Dario Faggioli >> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:08 PM >> To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> Cc: mcgrof@do-not-panic.com; Lars Kurth; Russell Pavlicek >> Subject: Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored >> >> Hello publicity folks, >> >> This week, we're reblogging this excellent piece from Luis: http://www.do-not-panic.com/2014/04/summary-of-gains-of-xen-oxenstored.html >> >> A draft is available here: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2014/04/18/9124/?preview=true&preview_id=9124&preview_nonce=6318335793 >> >> How do you find it? I scheduled it to go live Friday (April 18th) morning, mostly because I won't be working on Thursday (April 17th), so I won't be able to pick up on any feedback. However, if you're happy with it, or if you're fine with doing any modification yourself, feel free to reschedule or publish it directly. I actually expect this to be quite straightforward (it's a reblog, and the original post was really really nice already), but one never knows. :-) >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> Dario >> >> -- >> <> (Raistlin Majere) >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli >> Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 10:28:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WajYU-0003cf-Mr; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:30 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WajYT-0003cK-FP for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:29 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:19924] by server-7.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id FB/D5-17726-CCCAF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:28:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: anil@recoil.org X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1397730498!8883233!1 X-Originating-IP: [89.16.177.154] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNTc0MTcgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 22100 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 10:28:18 -0000 Received: from recoil.dh.bytemark.co.uk (HELO dark.recoil.org) (89.16.177.154) by server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 10:28:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 10989 invoked by uid 634); 17 Apr 2014 10:28:18 -0000 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED X-Spam-Check-By: dark.recoil.org Received: from volstagg-0.srg.cl.cam.ac.uk (HELO flick.office) (128.232.32.232) (smtp-auth username remote@recoil.org, mechanism cram-md5) by dark.recoil.org (qpsmtpd/0.84) with ESMTPA; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:28:13 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Anil Madhavapeddy In-Reply-To: <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:28:10 +0100 Message-Id: <07542534-882E-440E-8124-3458EAFCA875@recoil.org> References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> To: George Dunlap X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on dark.recoil.org Cc: Lars Kurth , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Dave is actually working on a big refresh of oxenstored to give it the ability to log its entire database history to Git (so you can debug it using standard command-line tools). This is a pretty big piece of work, so it may be worth holding off on this piece until Dave's ready to blog it (I suspect fairly soon). CCing Dave... -anil On 17 Apr 2014, at 11:20, George Dunlap wrote: > My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. This blog makes it seem like it's something new. > > Also, I'm not sure what the average person learns from this -- if you don't already know about functional programming, the oxenstored description is unlikely to mean anything to you. > > Some better framing might help. > > -George > > On 04/17/2014 03:57 AM, Russell Pavlicek wrote: >> FYI/FWIW: I fixed the fact that there was no title to the blog (scraped the title from the original blog), corrected a typo, updated a bunch of links to use xenproject.org instead of xen.org, and repaired a few minor formatting issues from undesirable carriage returns. >> >> Russ Pavlicek >> Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems >> Home Office: +1-301-829-5327 >> Mobile: +1-240-397-0199 >> UK VoIP: +44 1223 852 894 >> ________________________________________ >> From: Dario Faggioli >> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:08 PM >> To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> Cc: mcgrof@do-not-panic.com; Lars Kurth; Russell Pavlicek >> Subject: Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored >> >> Hello publicity folks, >> >> This week, we're reblogging this excellent piece from Luis: http://www.do-not-panic.com/2014/04/summary-of-gains-of-xen-oxenstored.html >> >> A draft is available here: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2014/04/18/9124/?preview=true&preview_id=9124&preview_nonce=6318335793 >> >> How do you find it? I scheduled it to go live Friday (April 18th) morning, mostly because I won't be working on Thursday (April 17th), so I won't be able to pick up on any feedback. However, if you're happy with it, or if you're fine with doing any modification yourself, feel free to reschedule or publish it directly. I actually expect this to be quite straightforward (it's a reblog, and the original post was really really nice already), but one never knows. :-) >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> Dario >> >> -- >> <> (Raistlin Majere) >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli >> Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 11:22:07 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:22:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WakON-0001S0-1D; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:22:07 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WakOL-0001Rf-AP for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:22:05 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:5109] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 44/6E-13602-C59BF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:22:04 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1397733724!9007023!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11226 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 11:22:04 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f171.google.com) (209.85.212.171) by server-15.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 11:22:04 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id q5so2758423wiv.4 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:22:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=05FOY6Np1R36sau2XeABFNGJO01B2Sp9SpWSGNpRq7o=; b=i1swqJXzIOeficexCAd5cMp+ZNYLXwPQCdy9siQmDuquGazHBrxEOe9AhSmXk3Brlh YBf1jOV/JHKUDfObFAzenzfGDwbS6caoFCtOuMbZhYcyZJ8eZpD+SZ+hLqppneLEX2LL EDwUrvuOURAPKpCyr9453mo0fXl3C/ViGm90UVx4cSLFLUrj7RasiJAXVzFkshnHaALG hGWVaIZ6cHCOq/wsS1P+Lp6OtJZ3IPjxIAY7NqW2Wsg/yyZV5DhSwkOT9pq3xc2mwTHN BNMPFakauezOJAMSyI0ZVja6dlb7F9cfrC6qnZ5OA+4kPZXXedJ6874nL9z3DK9K85qI JSJQ== X-Received: by 10.194.220.42 with SMTP id pt10mr1307404wjc.60.1397733723535; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cj9sm4302518wid.1.2014.04.17.04.22.02 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 12:22:01 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Maybe announcing the user summit first would make more sense Lars On 17/04/2014 11:28, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; >> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. > Has it really been 5 years? > > It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build > time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely > used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a > bad thing to me. > > Ian. > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 11:22:07 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:22:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WakON-0001S0-1D; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:22:07 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WakOL-0001Rf-AP for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:22:05 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:5109] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 44/6E-13602-C59BF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:22:04 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1397733724!9007023!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11226 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 11:22:04 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f171.google.com) (209.85.212.171) by server-15.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 11:22:04 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id q5so2758423wiv.4 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:22:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=05FOY6Np1R36sau2XeABFNGJO01B2Sp9SpWSGNpRq7o=; b=i1swqJXzIOeficexCAd5cMp+ZNYLXwPQCdy9siQmDuquGazHBrxEOe9AhSmXk3Brlh YBf1jOV/JHKUDfObFAzenzfGDwbS6caoFCtOuMbZhYcyZJ8eZpD+SZ+hLqppneLEX2LL EDwUrvuOURAPKpCyr9453mo0fXl3C/ViGm90UVx4cSLFLUrj7RasiJAXVzFkshnHaALG hGWVaIZ6cHCOq/wsS1P+Lp6OtJZ3IPjxIAY7NqW2Wsg/yyZV5DhSwkOT9pq3xc2mwTHN BNMPFakauezOJAMSyI0ZVja6dlb7F9cfrC6qnZ5OA+4kPZXXedJ6874nL9z3DK9K85qI JSJQ== X-Received: by 10.194.220.42 with SMTP id pt10mr1307404wjc.60.1397733723535; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cj9sm4302518wid.1.2014.04.17.04.22.02 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 12:22:01 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Maybe announcing the user summit first would make more sense Lars On 17/04/2014 11:28, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; >> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. > Has it really been 5 years? > > It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build > time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely > used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a > bad thing to me. > > Ian. > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 11:32:54 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:32:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WakYn-00027I-E2; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:32:53 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WakYl-00027D-Kh for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:32:51 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:6620] by server-12.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id E6/A0-03824-2EBBF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:32:50 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1397734369!2137424!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.217.176] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.9 required=7.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21345 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 11:32:49 -0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f176.google.com (HELO mail-lb0-f176.google.com) (209.85.217.176) by server-14.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 11:32:49 -0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 10so257504lbg.7 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:32:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wP0sAjAC2vK2M2bLcwCvX1J4aIl8Z0KnuVLZ/7ZmTPs=; b=TTsIbyLU+lfNDbmg9c7v6wsAHg1vyexDqLy/PYi7SgBQ+AbPenjSQofdyDuV7mp9J1 f17Yw2QA2XALnfQThPDOr+/dwwXi1VhkwMuN+20lsDUIt4g6NTk5Mbw3qF0kgcLsta8D ZugaEWvvFUE07kRwuoSfyAhyg0Znn165Kl9ykAkXVaQM/e5oQFcgJQ2g3LCFq1ApiOZu /5EpynHdC4ILLRrZHMh9b7SpFIBhJ+8VGRl3G3RtcPWpPTsLpHIUyKLusM/8ha8Tr0u4 IVJVP8Hm3kEoNNpYrQ6Eh/vhnT3UG5gxyhi1LIBgXqqgWaQFtQwDCOlfMEwSnaC+adpT ZuCg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.42.164 with SMTP id p4mr9540208lal.5.1397734368923; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:32:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 07:32:48 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7ijOhWwL2d6ZuGwCmHabO0HalxM Message-ID: From: Russ Pavlicek To: Lars Kurth Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2388798754968153819==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============2388798754968153819== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c33f988cd7d204f73b64a8 --001a11c33f988cd7d204f73b64a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I second that. I have a draft almost ready to go. I can push it later today if desired. Sorry I don't have the URL handy from my phone, but it can be seen by anyone with suitable privs. I need to add a bump for the Dev Summit CFP at the end somewhere and a graphic up front, but otherwise it should be close to ready. Russ On Apr 17, 2014 7:23 AM, "Lars Kurth" wrote: > Maybe announcing the user summit first would make more sense > Lars > > On 17/04/2014 11:28, Ian Campbell wrote: > >> On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >> >>> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; >>> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. >>> >> Has it really been 5 years? >> >> It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build >> time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely >> used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a >> bad thing to me. >> >> Ian. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > --001a11c33f988cd7d204f73b64a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I second that. I have a draft almost ready to go. I can push= it later today if desired.

Sorry I don't have the URL handy from my phone, but it c= an be seen by anyone with suitable privs.=C2=A0 I need to add a bump for th= e Dev Summit CFP at the end somewhere and a graphic up front, but otherwise= it should be close to ready.

Russ

On Apr 17, 2014 7:23 AM, "Lars Kurth" = <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:=
Maybe announcing the user summit first would make more sense
Lars

On 17/04/2014 11:28, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
My main question is, why? =C2=A0The paper in question was published in 2009= ;
oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now.
Has it really been 5 years?

It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build
time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as wide= ly
used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a=
bad thing to me.

Ian.


_______________________________________________
Publicity mailing list
Publici= ty@lists.xenproject.org
http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin= fo/publicity


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Publici= ty@lists.xenproject.org
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--001a11c33f988cd7d204f73b64a8-- --===============2388798754968153819== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============2388798754968153819==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 11:32:54 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:32:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WakYn-00027I-E2; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:32:53 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WakYl-00027D-Kh for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:32:51 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:6620] by server-12.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id E6/A0-03824-2EBBF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:32:50 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1397734369!2137424!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.217.176] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.9 required=7.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21345 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 11:32:49 -0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f176.google.com (HELO mail-lb0-f176.google.com) (209.85.217.176) by server-14.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 11:32:49 -0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 10so257504lbg.7 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:32:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wP0sAjAC2vK2M2bLcwCvX1J4aIl8Z0KnuVLZ/7ZmTPs=; b=TTsIbyLU+lfNDbmg9c7v6wsAHg1vyexDqLy/PYi7SgBQ+AbPenjSQofdyDuV7mp9J1 f17Yw2QA2XALnfQThPDOr+/dwwXi1VhkwMuN+20lsDUIt4g6NTk5Mbw3qF0kgcLsta8D ZugaEWvvFUE07kRwuoSfyAhyg0Znn165Kl9ykAkXVaQM/e5oQFcgJQ2g3LCFq1ApiOZu /5EpynHdC4ILLRrZHMh9b7SpFIBhJ+8VGRl3G3RtcPWpPTsLpHIUyKLusM/8ha8Tr0u4 IVJVP8Hm3kEoNNpYrQ6Eh/vhnT3UG5gxyhi1LIBgXqqgWaQFtQwDCOlfMEwSnaC+adpT ZuCg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.42.164 with SMTP id p4mr9540208lal.5.1397734368923; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:32:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 07:32:48 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7ijOhWwL2d6ZuGwCmHabO0HalxM Message-ID: From: Russ Pavlicek To: Lars Kurth Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2388798754968153819==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============2388798754968153819== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c33f988cd7d204f73b64a8 --001a11c33f988cd7d204f73b64a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I second that. I have a draft almost ready to go. I can push it later today if desired. Sorry I don't have the URL handy from my phone, but it can be seen by anyone with suitable privs. I need to add a bump for the Dev Summit CFP at the end somewhere and a graphic up front, but otherwise it should be close to ready. Russ On Apr 17, 2014 7:23 AM, "Lars Kurth" wrote: > Maybe announcing the user summit first would make more sense > Lars > > On 17/04/2014 11:28, Ian Campbell wrote: > >> On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >> >>> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; >>> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. >>> >> Has it really been 5 years? >> >> It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build >> time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely >> used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a >> bad thing to me. >> >> Ian. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > --001a11c33f988cd7d204f73b64a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I second that. I have a draft almost ready to go. I can push= it later today if desired.

Sorry I don't have the URL handy from my phone, but it c= an be seen by anyone with suitable privs.=C2=A0 I need to add a bump for th= e Dev Summit CFP at the end somewhere and a graphic up front, but otherwise= it should be close to ready.

Russ

On Apr 17, 2014 7:23 AM, "Lars Kurth" = <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:=
Maybe announcing the user summit first would make more sense
Lars

On 17/04/2014 11:28, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
My main question is, why? =C2=A0The paper in question was published in 2009= ;
oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now.
Has it really been 5 years?

It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build
time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as wide= ly
used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a=
bad thing to me.

Ian.


_______________________________________________
Publicity mailing list
Publici= ty@lists.xenproject.org
http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin= fo/publicity


_______________________________________________
Publicity mailing list
Publici= ty@lists.xenproject.org
http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin= fo/publicity
--001a11c33f988cd7d204f73b64a8-- --===============2388798754968153819== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============2388798754968153819==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 16:13:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:13:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaowC-0005r4-3y; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:13:20 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaowB-0005qx-46 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:13:19 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:2961] by server-13.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 40/2A-18692-E9DFF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:13:18 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1397751196!7576757!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.217.173] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 3645 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 16:13:17 -0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f173.google.com (HELO mail-lb0-f173.google.com) (209.85.217.173) by server-16.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 16:13:17 -0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f173.google.com with SMTP id p9so559536lbv.32 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:13:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=PCD7d3QeHdTNdNtiWRj3HTRNvFz1B9fFH4hJ1e9T+JA=; b=0acLe3k9C5nwEf4doIv+SGl30nO4siNO/BMwfqegjwezjDUdf8v5lM4kyRf7Xlbjtz SxYxaBixIP172ffWuf/dOvKo1lybvtnynCU8bEnbD1BXTmvtyGVat6mOIXP3mIhPZZ51 RYBDeiWL3iNB4/qdRN0wKHKugv98V1yg6egDPBbrCOECFXW4KJTYhbmGbVfhgjXJaVUU i9YuA6ejUk9HtJbmH/0JQTOBrW5XjhWh1hyXqomOi7WybhT4usbVtggB6F+ICmAsLuNk XUOkwRFjsRWJU1d3zku2mjR+F/E9F231KuYS/i0NT5IV0aqFjIniHPg9tiz2ezxm+HF3 L4Tg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.234.229 with SMTP id uh5mr196688lac.64.1397751196207; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:13:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 12:13:16 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: gGhWaDZ4Nz4cURXikieXntZlpo0 Message-ID: From: Russ Pavlicek To: Russ Pavlicek Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org So are we republishing Luis' blog this week or the XPUS CFP? If the former, I'd like to publish my blog early next week, if possible. Thanks On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > I second that. I have a draft almost ready to go. I can push it later today > if desired. > > Sorry I don't have the URL handy from my phone, but it can be seen by anyone > with suitable privs. I need to add a bump for the Dev Summit CFP at the end > somewhere and a graphic up front, but otherwise it should be close to ready. > > Russ > > On Apr 17, 2014 7:23 AM, "Lars Kurth" wrote: >> >> Maybe announcing the user summit first would make more sense >> Lars >> >> On 17/04/2014 11:28, Ian Campbell wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >>>> >>>> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; >>>> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. >>> >>> Has it really been 5 years? >>> >>> It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build >>> time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely >>> used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a >>> bad thing to me. >>> >>> Ian. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Publicity mailing list >>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 16:13:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:13:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaowC-0005r4-3y; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:13:20 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaowB-0005qx-46 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:13:19 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:2961] by server-13.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 40/2A-18692-E9DFF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:13:18 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1397751196!7576757!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.217.173] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 3645 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 16:13:17 -0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f173.google.com (HELO mail-lb0-f173.google.com) (209.85.217.173) by server-16.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 16:13:17 -0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f173.google.com with SMTP id p9so559536lbv.32 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:13:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=PCD7d3QeHdTNdNtiWRj3HTRNvFz1B9fFH4hJ1e9T+JA=; b=0acLe3k9C5nwEf4doIv+SGl30nO4siNO/BMwfqegjwezjDUdf8v5lM4kyRf7Xlbjtz SxYxaBixIP172ffWuf/dOvKo1lybvtnynCU8bEnbD1BXTmvtyGVat6mOIXP3mIhPZZ51 RYBDeiWL3iNB4/qdRN0wKHKugv98V1yg6egDPBbrCOECFXW4KJTYhbmGbVfhgjXJaVUU i9YuA6ejUk9HtJbmH/0JQTOBrW5XjhWh1hyXqomOi7WybhT4usbVtggB6F+ICmAsLuNk XUOkwRFjsRWJU1d3zku2mjR+F/E9F231KuYS/i0NT5IV0aqFjIniHPg9tiz2ezxm+HF3 L4Tg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.234.229 with SMTP id uh5mr196688lac.64.1397751196207; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:13:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 12:13:16 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: gGhWaDZ4Nz4cURXikieXntZlpo0 Message-ID: From: Russ Pavlicek To: Russ Pavlicek Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org So are we republishing Luis' blog this week or the XPUS CFP? If the former, I'd like to publish my blog early next week, if possible. Thanks On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > I second that. I have a draft almost ready to go. I can push it later today > if desired. > > Sorry I don't have the URL handy from my phone, but it can be seen by anyone > with suitable privs. I need to add a bump for the Dev Summit CFP at the end > somewhere and a graphic up front, but otherwise it should be close to ready. > > Russ > > On Apr 17, 2014 7:23 AM, "Lars Kurth" wrote: >> >> Maybe announcing the user summit first would make more sense >> Lars >> >> On 17/04/2014 11:28, Ian Campbell wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >>>> >>>> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; >>>> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. >>> >>> Has it really been 5 years? >>> >>> It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build >>> time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely >>> used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a >>> bad thing to me. >>> >>> Ian. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Publicity mailing list >>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 16:17:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:17:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wap05-0006I3-W3; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:17:21 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wap05-0006Hq-BH for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:17:21 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:16582] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 2F/A5-06539-09EFF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:17:20 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Campbell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1397751438!9733258!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11211 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 16:17:19 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-13.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 16:17:19 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,879,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="120942901" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2014 16:17:18 +0000 Received: from [10.80.2.80] (10.80.2.80) by FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 12:17:17 -0400 Message-ID: <1397751436.24638.309.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> From: Ian Campbell To: Russ Pavlicek Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:17:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> Organization: Citrix Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.5-2+b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [10.80.2.80] X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Dario said he was on vacation today, so I think it is Lars + your call. He had scheduled it for some time around now though, hadn't he? On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 12:13 -0400, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > So are we republishing Luis' blog this week or the XPUS CFP? If the > former, I'd like to publish my blog early next week, if possible. > > Thanks > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Russ Pavlicek > wrote: > > I second that. I have a draft almost ready to go. I can push it later today > > if desired. > > > > Sorry I don't have the URL handy from my phone, but it can be seen by anyone > > with suitable privs. I need to add a bump for the Dev Summit CFP at the end > > somewhere and a graphic up front, but otherwise it should be close to ready. > > > > Russ > > > > On Apr 17, 2014 7:23 AM, "Lars Kurth" wrote: > >> > >> Maybe announcing the user summit first would make more sense > >> Lars > >> > >> On 17/04/2014 11:28, Ian Campbell wrote: > >>> > >>> On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > >>>> > >>>> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; > >>>> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. > >>> > >>> Has it really been 5 years? > >>> > >>> It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build > >>> time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely > >>> used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a > >>> bad thing to me. > >>> > >>> Ian. > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Publicity mailing list > >>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > >>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Publicity mailing list > >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 16:17:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:17:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wap05-0006I3-W3; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:17:21 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wap05-0006Hq-BH for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:17:21 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:16582] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 2F/A5-06539-09EFF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:17:20 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Campbell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1397751438!9733258!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11211 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 16:17:19 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-13.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 16:17:19 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,879,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="120942901" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2014 16:17:18 +0000 Received: from [10.80.2.80] (10.80.2.80) by FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 12:17:17 -0400 Message-ID: <1397751436.24638.309.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> From: Ian Campbell To: Russ Pavlicek Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:17:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> Organization: Citrix Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.5-2+b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [10.80.2.80] X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Dario said he was on vacation today, so I think it is Lars + your call. He had scheduled it for some time around now though, hadn't he? On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 12:13 -0400, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > So are we republishing Luis' blog this week or the XPUS CFP? If the > former, I'd like to publish my blog early next week, if possible. > > Thanks > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Russ Pavlicek > wrote: > > I second that. I have a draft almost ready to go. I can push it later today > > if desired. > > > > Sorry I don't have the URL handy from my phone, but it can be seen by anyone > > with suitable privs. I need to add a bump for the Dev Summit CFP at the end > > somewhere and a graphic up front, but otherwise it should be close to ready. > > > > Russ > > > > On Apr 17, 2014 7:23 AM, "Lars Kurth" wrote: > >> > >> Maybe announcing the user summit first would make more sense > >> Lars > >> > >> On 17/04/2014 11:28, Ian Campbell wrote: > >>> > >>> On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > >>>> > >>>> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; > >>>> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. > >>> > >>> Has it really been 5 years? > >>> > >>> It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build > >>> time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely > >>> used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a > >>> bad thing to me. > >>> > >>> Ian. > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Publicity mailing list > >>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > >>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Publicity mailing list > >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 16:18:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:18:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wap14-0006UM-5d; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:18:22 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wap12-0006Th-V6 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:18:21 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:4504] by server-14.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 38/DC-15696-CCEFF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:18:20 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1397751499!8085095!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.172] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5281 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 16:18:19 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f172.google.com) (209.85.212.172) by server-4.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 16:18:19 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hi2so3165147wib.11 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:18:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kUY/ZGa3trZjeIgd1vqYOP7OLEYHDbTzZkXdNHRago8=; b=YBB/JllErEhtgb3UJSclLGM/e8wC4jfI3rQvvBH+EMVBumYS8ytEq8aPoLXd5CCVFr ZyT0Ko8cH86/ZWl15sPdr9uq0cpOcn/JYtgVZi+s7Jyqfv+Dtkp1S9iR2XnftpDAWp7d Mxu1HbPwBoJVJpkFZ8eK74MPTSWipv/7dh9I55FLTFv6WFeQS++u8C2b3+zKa9oDyjG6 xh9n7J6nJWj1Bf+X8kE/FnZCeXjkVemHzdXpkoQ/bMxNWm6NWXO3pV6iLSVZdSwusRpt fibTjZBbGfLxr7ZSL9e1Z7hmntD13Fs7PbJcge8sc5RorWmECn++9Qroy4cqyGnJkZxZ u0ZQ== X-Received: by 10.194.191.133 with SMTP id gy5mr13000448wjc.34.1397751499149; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ph8sm39614247wjb.32.2014.04.17.09.18.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <534FFEB8.9020003@xen.org> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:18:00 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ Pavlicek References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> In-Reply-To: Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Russ, publish yours now. Let's defer Luis piece Lars On 17/04/2014 17:13, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > So are we republishing Luis' blog this week or the XPUS CFP? If the > former, I'd like to publish my blog early next week, if possible. > > Thanks > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Russ Pavlicek > wrote: >> I second that. I have a draft almost ready to go. I can push it later today >> if desired. >> >> Sorry I don't have the URL handy from my phone, but it can be seen by anyone >> with suitable privs. I need to add a bump for the Dev Summit CFP at the end >> somewhere and a graphic up front, but otherwise it should be close to ready. >> >> Russ >> >> On Apr 17, 2014 7:23 AM, "Lars Kurth" wrote: >>> Maybe announcing the user summit first would make more sense >>> Lars >>> >>> On 17/04/2014 11:28, Ian Campbell wrote: >>>> On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >>>>> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; >>>>> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. >>>> Has it really been 5 years? >>>> >>>> It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build >>>> time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely >>>> used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a >>>> bad thing to me. >>>> >>>> Ian. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Publicity mailing list >>>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Publicity mailing list >>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 16:18:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:18:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wap14-0006UM-5d; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:18:22 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wap12-0006Th-V6 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:18:21 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:4504] by server-14.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 38/DC-15696-CCEFF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:18:20 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1397751499!8085095!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.172] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5281 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 16:18:19 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f172.google.com) (209.85.212.172) by server-4.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 16:18:19 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hi2so3165147wib.11 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:18:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kUY/ZGa3trZjeIgd1vqYOP7OLEYHDbTzZkXdNHRago8=; b=YBB/JllErEhtgb3UJSclLGM/e8wC4jfI3rQvvBH+EMVBumYS8ytEq8aPoLXd5CCVFr ZyT0Ko8cH86/ZWl15sPdr9uq0cpOcn/JYtgVZi+s7Jyqfv+Dtkp1S9iR2XnftpDAWp7d Mxu1HbPwBoJVJpkFZ8eK74MPTSWipv/7dh9I55FLTFv6WFeQS++u8C2b3+zKa9oDyjG6 xh9n7J6nJWj1Bf+X8kE/FnZCeXjkVemHzdXpkoQ/bMxNWm6NWXO3pV6iLSVZdSwusRpt fibTjZBbGfLxr7ZSL9e1Z7hmntD13Fs7PbJcge8sc5RorWmECn++9Qroy4cqyGnJkZxZ u0ZQ== X-Received: by 10.194.191.133 with SMTP id gy5mr13000448wjc.34.1397751499149; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ph8sm39614247wjb.32.2014.04.17.09.18.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <534FFEB8.9020003@xen.org> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:18:00 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ Pavlicek References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> In-Reply-To: Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Russ, publish yours now. Let's defer Luis piece Lars On 17/04/2014 17:13, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > So are we republishing Luis' blog this week or the XPUS CFP? If the > former, I'd like to publish my blog early next week, if possible. > > Thanks > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Russ Pavlicek > wrote: >> I second that. I have a draft almost ready to go. I can push it later today >> if desired. >> >> Sorry I don't have the URL handy from my phone, but it can be seen by anyone >> with suitable privs. I need to add a bump for the Dev Summit CFP at the end >> somewhere and a graphic up front, but otherwise it should be close to ready. >> >> Russ >> >> On Apr 17, 2014 7:23 AM, "Lars Kurth" wrote: >>> Maybe announcing the user summit first would make more sense >>> Lars >>> >>> On 17/04/2014 11:28, Ian Campbell wrote: >>>> On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >>>>> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; >>>>> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. >>>> Has it really been 5 years? >>>> >>>> It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build >>>> time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely >>>> used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a >>>> bad thing to me. >>>> >>>> Ian. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Publicity mailing list >>>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Publicity mailing list >>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 16:25:39 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:25:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wap86-0008IP-LB; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:25:38 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wap84-0008IK-GF for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:25:36 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:2421] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id CF/94-13602-F7000535; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:25:35 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1397751934!9701292!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.217.181] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 4896 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 16:25:35 -0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (HELO mail-lb0-f181.google.com) (209.85.217.181) by server-16.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 16:25:35 -0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id c11so554590lbj.40 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:25:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1UaXcUGukXtKpnTOvcnAlnfADTZTvQELJ7AbdYvH2CI=; b=ek/ONmWNjcEENNawwepc0hSqDH3p0FA9heQgJWFR9/ZkQXmmoBxjTghj5slp9CUsXc Ixa4KAlsdduXoy+7xg9x30UARmKumnAcFF2OXnS6qsbCHQkN/Ht0vn9PCjaWTjnAEN1W 92s3CB/sWpLc5grTN+KW0JAWqSKE7CE3DBIP/LF7lntiB+FpuOEAwdRQZ74WKOJPyBLr S2ECfcsilNdRF+89Ip5x/cihQfjEcxmi40bQakZKoLaTWsNriNTqbbVzKizSHkRNDfN1 jm26vBVY9S+NyJaKLjxbHeLip5xSE7RL1RQPL4LS821ubIAkFLq37B/WuCDMgpBA7u7U AxVQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.22.72 with SMTP id b8mr772272laf.63.1397751934004; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:25:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <534FFEB8.9020003@xen.org> References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> <534FFEB8.9020003@xen.org> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 12:25:33 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: sV5EBgmNj47Ov9u0rf0w3ln1zao Message-ID: From: Russ Pavlicek To: Lars Kurth Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org The piece from Luis has been unscheduled. I will finish up my piece and push it out later today. Thanks. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > Russ, > publish yours now. Let's defer Luis piece > Lars > > > On 17/04/2014 17:13, Russ Pavlicek wrote: >> >> So are we republishing Luis' blog this week or the XPUS CFP? If the >> former, I'd like to publish my blog early next week, if possible. >> >> Thanks >> >> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Russ Pavlicek >> wrote: >>> >>> I second that. I have a draft almost ready to go. I can push it later >>> today >>> if desired. >>> >>> Sorry I don't have the URL handy from my phone, but it can be seen by >>> anyone >>> with suitable privs. I need to add a bump for the Dev Summit CFP at the >>> end >>> somewhere and a graphic up front, but otherwise it should be close to >>> ready. >>> >>> Russ >>> >>> On Apr 17, 2014 7:23 AM, "Lars Kurth" wrote: >>>> >>>> Maybe announcing the user summit first would make more sense >>>> Lars >>>> >>>> On 17/04/2014 11:28, Ian Campbell wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in >>>>>> 2009; >>>>>> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. >>>>> >>>>> Has it really been 5 years? >>>>> >>>>> It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build >>>>> time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely >>>>> used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a >>>>> bad thing to me. >>>>> >>>>> Ian. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Publicity mailing list >>>>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>>>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Publicity mailing list >>>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 16:25:39 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:25:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wap86-0008IP-LB; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:25:38 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wap84-0008IK-GF for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:25:36 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:2421] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id CF/94-13602-F7000535; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:25:35 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1397751934!9701292!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.217.181] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 4896 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 16:25:35 -0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (HELO mail-lb0-f181.google.com) (209.85.217.181) by server-16.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 16:25:35 -0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id c11so554590lbj.40 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:25:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1UaXcUGukXtKpnTOvcnAlnfADTZTvQELJ7AbdYvH2CI=; b=ek/ONmWNjcEENNawwepc0hSqDH3p0FA9heQgJWFR9/ZkQXmmoBxjTghj5slp9CUsXc Ixa4KAlsdduXoy+7xg9x30UARmKumnAcFF2OXnS6qsbCHQkN/Ht0vn9PCjaWTjnAEN1W 92s3CB/sWpLc5grTN+KW0JAWqSKE7CE3DBIP/LF7lntiB+FpuOEAwdRQZ74WKOJPyBLr S2ECfcsilNdRF+89Ip5x/cihQfjEcxmi40bQakZKoLaTWsNriNTqbbVzKizSHkRNDfN1 jm26vBVY9S+NyJaKLjxbHeLip5xSE7RL1RQPL4LS821ubIAkFLq37B/WuCDMgpBA7u7U AxVQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.22.72 with SMTP id b8mr772272laf.63.1397751934004; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.29.49 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:25:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <534FFEB8.9020003@xen.org> References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> <534FFEB8.9020003@xen.org> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 12:25:33 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: sV5EBgmNj47Ov9u0rf0w3ln1zao Message-ID: From: Russ Pavlicek To: Lars Kurth Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org The piece from Luis has been unscheduled. I will finish up my piece and push it out later today. Thanks. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > Russ, > publish yours now. Let's defer Luis piece > Lars > > > On 17/04/2014 17:13, Russ Pavlicek wrote: >> >> So are we republishing Luis' blog this week or the XPUS CFP? If the >> former, I'd like to publish my blog early next week, if possible. >> >> Thanks >> >> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Russ Pavlicek >> wrote: >>> >>> I second that. I have a draft almost ready to go. I can push it later >>> today >>> if desired. >>> >>> Sorry I don't have the URL handy from my phone, but it can be seen by >>> anyone >>> with suitable privs. I need to add a bump for the Dev Summit CFP at the >>> end >>> somewhere and a graphic up front, but otherwise it should be close to >>> ready. >>> >>> Russ >>> >>> On Apr 17, 2014 7:23 AM, "Lars Kurth" wrote: >>>> >>>> Maybe announcing the user summit first would make more sense >>>> Lars >>>> >>>> On 17/04/2014 11:28, Ian Campbell wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in >>>>>> 2009; >>>>>> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. >>>>> >>>>> Has it really been 5 years? >>>>> >>>>> It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build >>>>> time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely >>>>> used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a >>>>> bad thing to me. >>>>> >>>>> Ian. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Publicity mailing list >>>>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>>>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Publicity mailing list >>>> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >>>> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Apr 18 08:50:41 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 08:50:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wb4VM-0006Od-NB; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 08:50:40 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wb4VL-0006OY-CY for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 08:50:39 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:10701] by server-12.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 29/ED-14831-E57E0535; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 08:50:38 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1397811027!7741729!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNTUxMjcgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 32129 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2014 08:50:29 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-4.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 18 Apr 2014 08:50:29 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,883,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="121168380" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 18 Apr 2014 08:50:27 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 04:50:26 -0400 Message-ID: <1397811023.6102.39.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Ian Campbell Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 10:50:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1397751436.24638.309.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> <1397751436.24638.309.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2034216013364042674==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============2034216013364042674== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-bHRRUAAxyeAX06FYlz+c" --=-bHRRUAAxyeAX06FYlz+c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On gio, 2014-04-17 at 17:17 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > Dario said he was on vacation today, so I think it is Lars + your call. > He had scheduled it for some time around now though, hadn't he? > Indeed I was on leave yesterday, so thanks everyone for picking up on this. :-) FTR, I had it scheduled for today, and not yesterday, in order to be able to take an action when back, if there was the need for it. I agree with Ian that a bit of show off for oxenstored is not at all a bad thing, even if there are improvement coming (even better, actually, as, at that point, you'll have a baseline to refer to). I'm also fine with the timing, and I'm happy Russ pushed his CFP blog. Perhaps we can reconsider Luis' piece for next week. Thanks and Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-bHRRUAAxyeAX06FYlz+c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNQ51AACgkQk4XaBE3IOsT9vgCgjzjYauJR2S3aLqOxCXa2fH/u AEMAn11w9hqAV7b4p2xR6f2rTIfIk17c =GsFr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-bHRRUAAxyeAX06FYlz+c-- --===============2034216013364042674== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============2034216013364042674==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Apr 18 08:50:41 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 08:50:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wb4VM-0006Od-NB; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 08:50:40 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wb4VL-0006OY-CY for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 08:50:39 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:10701] by server-12.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 29/ED-14831-E57E0535; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 08:50:38 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1397811027!7741729!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNTUxMjcgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 32129 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2014 08:50:29 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-4.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 18 Apr 2014 08:50:29 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,883,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="121168380" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 18 Apr 2014 08:50:27 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 04:50:26 -0400 Message-ID: <1397811023.6102.39.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Ian Campbell Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 10:50:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1397751436.24638.309.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <534FB959.9060201@xen.org> <1397751436.24638.309.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2034216013364042674==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============2034216013364042674== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-bHRRUAAxyeAX06FYlz+c" --=-bHRRUAAxyeAX06FYlz+c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On gio, 2014-04-17 at 17:17 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > Dario said he was on vacation today, so I think it is Lars + your call. > He had scheduled it for some time around now though, hadn't he? > Indeed I was on leave yesterday, so thanks everyone for picking up on this. :-) FTR, I had it scheduled for today, and not yesterday, in order to be able to take an action when back, if there was the need for it. I agree with Ian that a bit of show off for oxenstored is not at all a bad thing, even if there are improvement coming (even better, actually, as, at that point, you'll have a baseline to refer to). I'm also fine with the timing, and I'm happy Russ pushed his CFP blog. Perhaps we can reconsider Luis' piece for next week. Thanks and Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-bHRRUAAxyeAX06FYlz+c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNQ51AACgkQk4XaBE3IOsT9vgCgjzjYauJR2S3aLqOxCXa2fH/u AEMAn11w9hqAV7b4p2xR6f2rTIfIk17c =GsFr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-bHRRUAAxyeAX06FYlz+c-- --===============2034216013364042674== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============2034216013364042674==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 22 08:23:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:23:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcVzf-0007KP-7B; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:23:55 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcVzd-0007KK-HT for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:23:53 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:58127] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 1C/DB-06539-81726535; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:23:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1398155032!166473!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.179] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 32166 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2014 08:23:52 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f179.google.com) (209.85.212.179) by server-15.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Apr 2014 08:23:52 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id z2so2828763wiv.12 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 01:23:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cbwtSCA2FxjJ/RSuwCyzgyQ0zSCHiz+ovWtqdu8ircw=; b=HEtPq3CjW0FDf4iioz9ZzrUE2myX5E6D/bvIOBZkkhuFJwz2Ls5D1K0hK0wYXqeX9Z 2EfwExSze8kkCqZcJ7PtEJp/Ib+QUZZGcmz0N6dGya/C+9z+c6jMSzqLBVQhJkRqU9xh SDEhaF5BTYEwD84bTf1froRy7CTzQpzOU+HoQkv54GZ/uSLa8DaGqYBIuoYT8BVJW4FU 92vFrE+wd8U6uC61WnO1XhFqpiEjHwNnWIYvCON7J1GYMMe3G9pcZ6xQzTLeTm0QgA3a d70lCh4pB7xeKhmyj4ZANuHCcXVcokMj04X4UMA03glF86xoAVJ3weskhPJe7ashKS7I jdNg== X-Received: by 10.180.80.3 with SMTP id n3mr17037094wix.36.1398155031877; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 01:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.26.11] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uc3sm21118400wib.10.2014.04.22.01.23.50 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Apr 2014 01:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53562715.70907@xen.org> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:23:49 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Publicity] GSoC and OPW piece (today) X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hi all, hope you had a great Easter holiday. Yesterday night GSoC and OPW applicants have been confirmed and I am planning a short piece introducing our applicants and projects. Before that, I will clean up the related wiki pages though. Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 22 08:23:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:23:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcVzf-0007KP-7B; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:23:55 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcVzd-0007KK-HT for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:23:53 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:58127] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 1C/DB-06539-81726535; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:23:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1398155032!166473!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.179] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 32166 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2014 08:23:52 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f179.google.com) (209.85.212.179) by server-15.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Apr 2014 08:23:52 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id z2so2828763wiv.12 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 01:23:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cbwtSCA2FxjJ/RSuwCyzgyQ0zSCHiz+ovWtqdu8ircw=; b=HEtPq3CjW0FDf4iioz9ZzrUE2myX5E6D/bvIOBZkkhuFJwz2Ls5D1K0hK0wYXqeX9Z 2EfwExSze8kkCqZcJ7PtEJp/Ib+QUZZGcmz0N6dGya/C+9z+c6jMSzqLBVQhJkRqU9xh SDEhaF5BTYEwD84bTf1froRy7CTzQpzOU+HoQkv54GZ/uSLa8DaGqYBIuoYT8BVJW4FU 92vFrE+wd8U6uC61WnO1XhFqpiEjHwNnWIYvCON7J1GYMMe3G9pcZ6xQzTLeTm0QgA3a d70lCh4pB7xeKhmyj4ZANuHCcXVcokMj04X4UMA03glF86xoAVJ3weskhPJe7ashKS7I jdNg== X-Received: by 10.180.80.3 with SMTP id n3mr17037094wix.36.1398155031877; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 01:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.26.11] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uc3sm21118400wib.10.2014.04.22.01.23.50 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Apr 2014 01:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53562715.70907@xen.org> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:23:49 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Publicity] GSoC and OPW piece (today) X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hi all, hope you had a great Easter holiday. Yesterday night GSoC and OPW applicants have been confirmed and I am planning a short piece introducing our applicants and projects. Before that, I will clean up the related wiki pages though. 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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id go20sm32965721wjc.18.2014.04.22.01.26.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Apr 2014 01:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <535627A2.3030706@xen.org> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:26:10 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sarah Conway , Stefano Stabellini References: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> <53442E2C.2090001@xen.org> In-Reply-To: Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4982038691123975410==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4982038691123975410== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000904090103090309020905" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000904090103090309020905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another one http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-ubuntu-and-docker-container-virtualization-goes-mainstream-7000028610/ and x-reffed http://robhirschfeld.com/2014/04/18/docker-real-or-hype/ Lars On 08/04/2014 19:45, Sarah Conway wrote: > > Here's yet another article that just came out on the topic from Steven > Vaughan Nichols, who did meet with Mark H. and Richard Phelan at > Collab. Don't think this topic came up though. > > http://blog.smartbear.com/web-monitoring/why-containers-instead-of-hypervisors/ > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stefano Stabellini > > wrote: > > Yes, there are: miniOS is similar to OSv but less complete and only > supports PV guests. > The miniOS approach allows one POSIX application to run within one PV > guest virtual machine with minimal operating system overhead. At the > same time PV (and the newer PVH) guests are low overhead compared > to HVM > guests as they don't provide any emulated interfaces. > Overall miniOS (or OSv) on a PV guest is a great fit for > micro-virtualization. > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Sarah Conway wrote: > > I like Stefano's point about Xen building bridges here -- seems > like a new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The > > fact that Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary > choice might play reasonably well. > > Are there are any major technical differences between the miniOS > approach and containers? > > Thanks, > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth > wrote: > > I think it's a great post > > Lars > > > > On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > > I've got the following blog post queued for > open.citrix.com later > > today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely). > > > > I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so > if anyone has > > concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so > if you can. > > Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is > autopublished later tonight. > > > > It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to > highlight the > > MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms. > > > > --- > > > > Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question? > > > > Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require > Scrapping Your Hypervisor > > > > Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling > the seemingly > > endless virtues of Linux Containers. I heard claims > that hypervisors > > were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on > inefficient > > replication of a large operating system stack in > order to serve up > > applications. The speaker painted a picture of a > future where > > hundreds of applications are virtualized on each > piece of hardware. > > "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a > lightweight, > > efficient means of serving up application: containers." > > > > Containers are cool, but not a panacea > > > > Containers share the same kernel as the host, so > they are not burdened > > with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to > replicate a full > > operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. > Compared to > > hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers > can be fast and > > lean. But they are also limited. > > > > Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the > host, it is > > impossible to run Windows. Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. > Or another > > version of the Linux kernel. Or another Linux > distribution which > > requires a different kernel. All of those scenarios > are best handled > > by a real hypervisor. And the security aspect of > hypervisors is huge, > > worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. Still, > if you need an > > environment within your organization where many > workloads can leverage > > a single kernel environment, containers can be a > viable solution. > > > > However, some of the most vocal container advocates > insist that these > > problems relating to containers are really > application problems in > > disguise. Issues about kernel support and security > are the results of > > improper application design, they claim. When we > raise the bar on > > applications so that they are based solely on access > to application > > servers, then the objections to containers will melt > away -- and so > > will hypervisors, for the most part. Or that's what > some of these > > advocates claim, at least. > > > > The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated > > > > But is there another scenario which could answer the > call for highly > > responsive and lightweight virtual instances which > does not use the > > container solution? Maybe one that can actually > leverage the > > flexibility and security which is part and parcel > with most > > hypervisors? > > > > Yes, in fact, there is. And the key is in the very > > application-centric future which some container > advocates believe will > > cause the hypervisor to become obsolete. > > > > Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System > > > > Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of > replicating a full > > operating system, we can replicate ultra-light > application-centric > > operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. > A number of these > > lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen > recently, including > > the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius > Systems' OSv. These > > lightweight operating systems, sometimes called > "cloud operating > > systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk > to hardware -- > > because they aren't meant to run on hardware. And > they lack > > multiprocess capabilities because they are not > intended to be general > > timesharing systems, but dedicated application > server systems. As a > > result, they are very small, very lightweight, and > can start up > > amazingly quickly in a VM environment. They enable > the vision of > > light and fast application servers, while preserving > the superior > > security and flexibility of true hypervisors. > > > > Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty > application bath water > > > > So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of > small, efficient > > application VMs packed into a minimum of number of > servers, but > > cringing at the notion of totally retooling your > virtualization > > infrastructure and rethinking your entire security > mindset, don't > > fret. That vision is achievable while maintaining > the flexibility and > > security that mature hypervisors deliver. Focus on > a streamlined > > application stack, and the vision of dense, > efficient application VMs > > is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using > hypervisors, > > containers, or both. > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini > > > wrote: > > Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we > choose to have upstream > > QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy > to use for other POSIX > > applications too, so that we can advertise it > as a generic solution for > > Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure > alternative to containers. > > > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > Given that most people only use one VM > for one task, the rise of > > "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they > are based on OSv (miniOS or rump > > kernels) on traditional hypervisors or > on Docker, ZeroVM or other types > > of containers. > > > > However what these articles don't take > into account is that Xen can > > already handle both kind of workloads > extremely well: Xen can handle > > fat > > old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new > style lightweight micro-VMs, > > with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) > inside a PV guest. > > > > If I manage to carve the time to do it I > might be able to write a blog > > post about it. > > > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: > > See: > > > > * > > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ > > * On the other hand there is this > article: > > > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ > > (both by Simon Crosby) > > > > Generally for the security > discussion, which is related, > > the following > > articles may be relevant: > > * > > > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ > > * > > http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security > > The following two may also be > useful (and contain quite a > > few useful links) > > despite also being partly a > product pitch: > > * > > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ > > * > > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protect > > ion/ > > > > Lars > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sarah Conway > > PR Manager > > The Linux Foundation > > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > > (978) 578-5300 Cell > > Skype: sarah.k.conway > > > > > > > > > -- > Sarah Conway > PR Manager > The Linux Foundation > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > (978) 578-5300 Cell > Skype: sarah.k.conway --------------000904090103090309020905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Another one
http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-ubuntu-and-docker-container-virtualization-goes-mainstream-7000028610/
and x-reffed http://robhirschfeld.com/2014/04/18/docker-real-or-hype/
Lars

On 08/04/2014 19:45, Sarah Conway wrote:

Here's yet another article that just came out on the topic from Steven Vaughan Nichols, who did meet with Mark H. and Richard Phelan at Collab. Don't think this topic came up though. 



On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
Yes, there are: miniOS is similar to OSv but less complete and only
supports PV guests.
The miniOS approach allows one POSIX application to run within one PV
guest virtual machine with minimal operating system overhead. At the
same time PV (and the newer PVH) guests are low overhead compared to HVM
guests as they don't provide any emulated interfaces.
Overall miniOS (or OSv) on a PV guest is a great fit for
micro-virtualization.

On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Sarah Conway wrote:
> I like Stefano's point about Xen building bridges here -- seems like a new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The
> fact that Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary choice might play reasonably well.  
> Are there are any major technical differences between the miniOS approach and containers? 
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:
>       I think it's a great post
>       Lars
>
>       On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote:
>             I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.com later
>             today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely).
>
>             I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone has
>             concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you can.
>             Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished later tonight.
>
>             It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to highlight the
>             MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms.
>
>             ---
>
>             Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question?
>
>             Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping Your Hypervisor
>
>             Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the seemingly
>             endless virtues of Linux Containers.  I heard claims that hypervisors
>             were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on inefficient
>             replication of a large operating system stack in order to serve up
>             applications.  The speaker painted a picture of a future where
>             hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of hardware.
>             "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a lightweight,
>             efficient means of serving up application: containers."
>
>             Containers are cool, but not a panacea
>
>             Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are not burdened
>             with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a full
>             operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario.  Compared to
>             hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be fast and
>             lean.  But they are also limited.
>
>             Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it is
>             impossible to run Windows.  Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD.   Or another
>             version of the Linux kernel.  Or another Linux distribution which
>             requires a different kernel.  All of those scenarios are best handled
>             by a real hypervisor.  And the security aspect of hypervisors is huge,
>             worthy of a separate blog entry of its own.  Still, if you need an
>             environment within your organization where many workloads can leverage
>             a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable solution.
>
>             However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist that these
>             problems relating to containers are really application problems in
>             disguise.  Issues about kernel support and security are the results of
>             improper application design, they claim.  When we raise the bar on
>             applications so that they are based solely on access to application
>             servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- and so
>             will hypervisors, for the most part.  Or that's what some of these
>             advocates claim, at least.
>
>             The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated
>
>             But is there another scenario which could answer the call for highly
>             responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not use the
>             container solution?  Maybe one that can actually leverage the
>             flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most
>             hypervisors?
>
>             Yes, in fact, there is.  And the key is in the very
>             application-centric future which some container advocates believe will
>             cause the hypervisor to become obsolete.
>
>             Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System
>
>             Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of replicating a full
>             operating system, we can replicate ultra-light application-centric
>             operating systems which are meant to live in a VM.  A number of these
>             lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, including
>             the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv.  These
>             lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud operating
>             systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to hardware --
>             because they aren't meant to run on hardware.  And they lack
>             multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to be general
>             timesharing systems, but dedicated application server systems.  As a
>             result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start up
>             amazingly quickly in a VM environment.  They enable the vision of
>             light and fast application servers, while preserving the superior
>             security and flexibility of true hypervisors.
>
>             Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty application bath water
>
>             So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, efficient
>             application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, but
>             cringing at the notion of totally retooling your virtualization
>             infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, don't
>             fret.  That vision is achievable while maintaining the flexibility and
>             security that mature hypervisors deliver.  Focus on a streamlined
>             application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient application VMs
>             is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using hypervisors,
>             containers, or both.
>
>
>             On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini
>             <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
>                   Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to have upstream
>                   QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use for other POSIX
>                   applications too, so that we can advertise it as a generic solution for
>                   Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative to containers.
>
>                   On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>                         Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of
>                         "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump
>                         kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types
>                         of containers.
>
>                         However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can
>                         already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle
>                         fat
>                         old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs,
>                         with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest.
>
>                         If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog
>                         post about it.
>
>                         On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote:
>                               See:
>
>                               *
>                               http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/
>                               * On the other hand there is this article:
>                               http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/
>                               (both by Simon Crosby)
>
>                               Generally for the security discussion, which is related,
>                               the following
>                               articles may be relevant:
>                               *
>                               http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/
>                               *
>                               http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security
>                               The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a
>                               few useful links)
>                               despite also being partly a product pitch:
>                               *
>                               http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/
>                               *
> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protect
>                               ion/
>
>                               Lars
>
>                               _______________________________________________
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>
>                         _______________________________________________
>                         Publicity mailing list
>                         Publicity@lists.xenproject.org
>                         http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity
>
>                   _______________________________________________
>                   Publicity mailing list
>                   Publicity@lists.xenproject.org
>                   http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity
>
>             _______________________________________________
>             Publicity mailing list
>             Publicity@lists.xenproject.org
>             http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity
>
>
>
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>       Publicity@lists.xenproject.org
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>
>
>
>
> --
> Sarah Conway
> PR Manager
> The Linux Foundation
> sconway@linuxfoundation.org
> (978) 578-5300  Cell
> Skype:  sarah.k.conway
>
>



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PR Manager
The Linux Foundation
sconway@linuxfoundation.org
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--------------000904090103090309020905-- --===============4982038691123975410== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============4982038691123975410==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 22 08:26:32 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:26:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcW2C-0007LR-Gh; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:26:32 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcW2A-0007LM-Dp for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:26:31 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:44031] by server-16.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id F2/2D-16986-5B726535; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:26:29 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1398155175!39266!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.42] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.8 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 4513 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2014 08:26:15 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f42.google.com) (74.125.82.42) by server-8.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Apr 2014 08:26:15 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id y10so3508832wgg.1 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 01:26:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=3SvT3Ez7taGEWX2B6bC9DDqAgQp9O1gQsrmaMdmyeOs=; b=LHV46vzBznRHRVzRUxA7JUHrHsMyJdxUkYmnIm94iTAHBgSIkRO6f/cQhC1JrDOx+3 ZsXzyMQhQdhHaeJE6S2ZgZgWMCBZO9q2RSeE0KHwFrXd/ReKUtDDkX7TBZJM6DyvcT5l k5xO8XWhXV0/da6hcFEZB9sQLvFSJ55p6S4zsgv4YditMA+P5DRpm+vo7qL1ikOQxlvw jr0A4C22QSLcwouOeqyTo7AWk6FVz+Z2xk3D0co0vyLEEqXlCYeXIPYv2hdKZ8/UY8V4 Ifj3eOslJzgacISLfrGncblJbmLucS80ARSl99jp0mXhWc/1FMbVq7pPqYMdZivimihf Gocg== X-Received: by 10.180.106.134 with SMTP id gu6mr17205022wib.61.1398155175455; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 01:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.26.11] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id go20sm32965721wjc.18.2014.04.22.01.26.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Apr 2014 01:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <535627A2.3030706@xen.org> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:26:10 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sarah Conway , Stefano Stabellini References: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> <53442E2C.2090001@xen.org> In-Reply-To: Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4982038691123975410==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4982038691123975410== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000904090103090309020905" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000904090103090309020905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another one http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-ubuntu-and-docker-container-virtualization-goes-mainstream-7000028610/ and x-reffed http://robhirschfeld.com/2014/04/18/docker-real-or-hype/ Lars On 08/04/2014 19:45, Sarah Conway wrote: > > Here's yet another article that just came out on the topic from Steven > Vaughan Nichols, who did meet with Mark H. and Richard Phelan at > Collab. Don't think this topic came up though. > > http://blog.smartbear.com/web-monitoring/why-containers-instead-of-hypervisors/ > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stefano Stabellini > > wrote: > > Yes, there are: miniOS is similar to OSv but less complete and only > supports PV guests. > The miniOS approach allows one POSIX application to run within one PV > guest virtual machine with minimal operating system overhead. At the > same time PV (and the newer PVH) guests are low overhead compared > to HVM > guests as they don't provide any emulated interfaces. > Overall miniOS (or OSv) on a PV guest is a great fit for > micro-virtualization. > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Sarah Conway wrote: > > I like Stefano's point about Xen building bridges here -- seems > like a new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The > > fact that Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary > choice might play reasonably well. > > Are there are any major technical differences between the miniOS > approach and containers? > > Thanks, > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth > wrote: > > I think it's a great post > > Lars > > > > On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > > I've got the following blog post queued for > open.citrix.com later > > today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely). > > > > I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so > if anyone has > > concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so > if you can. > > Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is > autopublished later tonight. > > > > It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to > highlight the > > MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms. > > > > --- > > > > Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question? > > > > Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require > Scrapping Your Hypervisor > > > > Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling > the seemingly > > endless virtues of Linux Containers. I heard claims > that hypervisors > > were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on > inefficient > > replication of a large operating system stack in > order to serve up > > applications. The speaker painted a picture of a > future where > > hundreds of applications are virtualized on each > piece of hardware. > > "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a > lightweight, > > efficient means of serving up application: containers." > > > > Containers are cool, but not a panacea > > > > Containers share the same kernel as the host, so > they are not burdened > > with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to > replicate a full > > operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. > Compared to > > hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers > can be fast and > > lean. But they are also limited. > > > > Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the > host, it is > > impossible to run Windows. Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. > Or another > > version of the Linux kernel. Or another Linux > distribution which > > requires a different kernel. All of those scenarios > are best handled > > by a real hypervisor. And the security aspect of > hypervisors is huge, > > worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. Still, > if you need an > > environment within your organization where many > workloads can leverage > > a single kernel environment, containers can be a > viable solution. > > > > However, some of the most vocal container advocates > insist that these > > problems relating to containers are really > application problems in > > disguise. Issues about kernel support and security > are the results of > > improper application design, they claim. When we > raise the bar on > > applications so that they are based solely on access > to application > > servers, then the objections to containers will melt > away -- and so > > will hypervisors, for the most part. Or that's what > some of these > > advocates claim, at least. > > > > The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated > > > > But is there another scenario which could answer the > call for highly > > responsive and lightweight virtual instances which > does not use the > > container solution? Maybe one that can actually > leverage the > > flexibility and security which is part and parcel > with most > > hypervisors? > > > > Yes, in fact, there is. And the key is in the very > > application-centric future which some container > advocates believe will > > cause the hypervisor to become obsolete. > > > > Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System > > > > Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of > replicating a full > > operating system, we can replicate ultra-light > application-centric > > operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. > A number of these > > lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen > recently, including > > the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius > Systems' OSv. These > > lightweight operating systems, sometimes called > "cloud operating > > systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk > to hardware -- > > because they aren't meant to run on hardware. And > they lack > > multiprocess capabilities because they are not > intended to be general > > timesharing systems, but dedicated application > server systems. As a > > result, they are very small, very lightweight, and > can start up > > amazingly quickly in a VM environment. They enable > the vision of > > light and fast application servers, while preserving > the superior > > security and flexibility of true hypervisors. > > > > Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty > application bath water > > > > So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of > small, efficient > > application VMs packed into a minimum of number of > servers, but > > cringing at the notion of totally retooling your > virtualization > > infrastructure and rethinking your entire security > mindset, don't > > fret. That vision is achievable while maintaining > the flexibility and > > security that mature hypervisors deliver. Focus on > a streamlined > > application stack, and the vision of dense, > efficient application VMs > > is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using > hypervisors, > > containers, or both. > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini > > > wrote: > > Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we > choose to have upstream > > QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy > to use for other POSIX > > applications too, so that we can advertise it > as a generic solution for > > Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure > alternative to containers. > > > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > Given that most people only use one VM > for one task, the rise of > > "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they > are based on OSv (miniOS or rump > > kernels) on traditional hypervisors or > on Docker, ZeroVM or other types > > of containers. > > > > However what these articles don't take > into account is that Xen can > > already handle both kind of workloads > extremely well: Xen can handle > > fat > > old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new > style lightweight micro-VMs, > > with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) > inside a PV guest. > > > > If I manage to carve the time to do it I > might be able to write a blog > > post about it. > > > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: > > See: > > > > * > > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ > > * On the other hand there is this > article: > > > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ > > (both by Simon Crosby) > > > > Generally for the security > discussion, which is related, > > the following > > articles may be relevant: > > * > > > http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ > > * > > http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security > > The following two may also be > useful (and contain quite a > > few useful links) > > despite also being partly a > product pitch: > > * > > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ > > * > > > http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protect > > ion/ > > > > Lars > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sarah Conway > > PR Manager > > The Linux Foundation > > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > > (978) 578-5300 Cell > > Skype: sarah.k.conway > > > > > > > > > -- > Sarah Conway > PR Manager > The Linux Foundation > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > (978) 578-5300 Cell > Skype: sarah.k.conway --------------000904090103090309020905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Another one
http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-ubuntu-and-docker-container-virtualization-goes-mainstream-7000028610/
and x-reffed http://robhirschfeld.com/2014/04/18/docker-real-or-hype/
Lars

On 08/04/2014 19:45, Sarah Conway wrote:

Here's yet another article that just came out on the topic from Steven Vaughan Nichols, who did meet with Mark H. and Richard Phelan at Collab. Don't think this topic came up though. 



On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
Yes, there are: miniOS is similar to OSv but less complete and only
supports PV guests.
The miniOS approach allows one POSIX application to run within one PV
guest virtual machine with minimal operating system overhead. At the
same time PV (and the newer PVH) guests are low overhead compared to HVM
guests as they don't provide any emulated interfaces.
Overall miniOS (or OSv) on a PV guest is a great fit for
micro-virtualization.

On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Sarah Conway wrote:
> I like Stefano's point about Xen building bridges here -- seems like a new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The
> fact that Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary choice might play reasonably well.  
> Are there are any major technical differences between the miniOS approach and containers? 
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:
>       I think it's a great post
>       Lars
>
>       On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote:
>             I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.com later
>             today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely).
>
>             I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone has
>             concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you can.
>             Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished later tonight.
>
>             It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to highlight the
>             MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms.
>
>             ---
>
>             Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question?
>
>             Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping Your Hypervisor
>
>             Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the seemingly
>             endless virtues of Linux Containers.  I heard claims that hypervisors
>             were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on inefficient
>             replication of a large operating system stack in order to serve up
>             applications.  The speaker painted a picture of a future where
>             hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of hardware.
>             "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a lightweight,
>             efficient means of serving up application: containers."
>
>             Containers are cool, but not a panacea
>
>             Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are not burdened
>             with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a full
>             operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario.  Compared to
>             hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be fast and
>             lean.  But they are also limited.
>
>             Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it is
>             impossible to run Windows.  Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD.   Or another
>             version of the Linux kernel.  Or another Linux distribution which
>             requires a different kernel.  All of those scenarios are best handled
>             by a real hypervisor.  And the security aspect of hypervisors is huge,
>             worthy of a separate blog entry of its own.  Still, if you need an
>             environment within your organization where many workloads can leverage
>             a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable solution.
>
>             However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist that these
>             problems relating to containers are really application problems in
>             disguise.  Issues about kernel support and security are the results of
>             improper application design, they claim.  When we raise the bar on
>             applications so that they are based solely on access to application
>             servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- and so
>             will hypervisors, for the most part.  Or that's what some of these
>             advocates claim, at least.
>
>             The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated
>
>             But is there another scenario which could answer the call for highly
>             responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not use the
>             container solution?  Maybe one that can actually leverage the
>             flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most
>             hypervisors?
>
>             Yes, in fact, there is.  And the key is in the very
>             application-centric future which some container advocates believe will
>             cause the hypervisor to become obsolete.
>
>             Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System
>
>             Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of replicating a full
>             operating system, we can replicate ultra-light application-centric
>             operating systems which are meant to live in a VM.  A number of these
>             lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, including
>             the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv.  These
>             lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud operating
>             systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to hardware --
>             because they aren't meant to run on hardware.  And they lack
>             multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to be general
>             timesharing systems, but dedicated application server systems.  As a
>             result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start up
>             amazingly quickly in a VM environment.  They enable the vision of
>             light and fast application servers, while preserving the superior
>             security and flexibility of true hypervisors.
>
>             Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty application bath water
>
>             So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, efficient
>             application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, but
>             cringing at the notion of totally retooling your virtualization
>             infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, don't
>             fret.  That vision is achievable while maintaining the flexibility and
>             security that mature hypervisors deliver.  Focus on a streamlined
>             application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient application VMs
>             is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using hypervisors,
>             containers, or both.
>
>
>             On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini
>             <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
>                   Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to have upstream
>                   QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use for other POSIX
>                   applications too, so that we can advertise it as a generic solution for
>                   Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative to containers.
>
>                   On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>                         Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of
>                         "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump
>                         kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types
>                         of containers.
>
>                         However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can
>                         already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle
>                         fat
>                         old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs,
>                         with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest.
>
>                         If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog
>                         post about it.
>
>                         On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote:
>                               See:
>
>                               *
>                               http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/
>                               * On the other hand there is this article:
>                               http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/
>                               (both by Simon Crosby)
>
>                               Generally for the security discussion, which is related,
>                               the following
>                               articles may be relevant:
>                               *
>                               http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/
>                               *
>                               http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security
>                               The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a
>                               few useful links)
>                               despite also being partly a product pitch:
>                               *
>                               http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/
>                               *
> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protect
>                               ion/
>
>                               Lars
>
>                               _______________________________________________
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>
>                         _______________________________________________
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>                         Publicity@lists.xenproject.org
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>
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>                   Publicity@lists.xenproject.org
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> The Linux Foundation
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--------------000904090103090309020905-- --===============4982038691123975410== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============4982038691123975410==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 22 17:08:05 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 17:08:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WceAu-0001Qo-5e; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 17:08:04 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WceAs-0001Qg-MX for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 17:08:02 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:3989] by server-9.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 56/0E-04350-2F1A6535; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 17:08:02 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1398186481!7003450!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.181] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 22780 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2014 17:08:01 -0000 Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (HELO mail-we0-f181.google.com) (74.125.82.181) by server-11.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Apr 2014 17:08:01 -0000 Received: by mail-we0-f181.google.com with SMTP id q58so5187699wes.40 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 10:08:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bUNIWL1oh+dqwoxuirPIz5kM7ycvBevFKpMHQsi+4JA=; b=tOSQM2wy+Kt2zlI2rdkjNu9eEeAgHaCXNcxRZ7qMXfajzE3oVMA70nURRX6aY3EPcz i3cZmuJcq1XDjuyRLCeut0LPhbu790TG8Oos6NPMD6aia9QtIYt0dJihSV3A4jq4VxJc 9yRSYbbCwIizv0sToDyBN+fWlfj0sOyOj4endYshqkbYv5VZ/1xIOcbIokF5eDZeiFIj 0hHt6udi5+aItLPKC4RrndCsX2a3ms59qbDqD9WK5be48IJVLCAWGLNu973A7leyLnK1 mNR9ADxzGPwcjFzV45pFyaBCvtvWdr150+sxeB2vYdZtUv1g8ZIYqett0qIgyW33Xjt4 7mXA== X-Received: by 10.194.237.170 with SMTP id vd10mr184425wjc.91.1398186480887; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 10:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. 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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hp5sm62707978wjb.0.2014.04.22.10.07.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Apr 2014 10:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5356A1E2.8040007@xen.org> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:07:46 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Publicity] GSoC + OPW Blog post for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org See http://blog.xen.org/?p=9177&preview=true Some of the project descriptions could probably do with a little bit more detail and need to be vetted for correctness Regards Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 23 03:08:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:08:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcnXl-0006FV-2W; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:08:17 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcnXj-0006FQ-92 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:08:15 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:25702] by server-6.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id C8/72-00470-E9E27535; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:08:14 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1398222492!3311850!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12238 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2014 03:08:13 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Apr 2014 03:08:13 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,908,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="122536637" Received: from sjcpex01cl01.citrite.net ([10.216.14.143]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 23 Apr 2014 03:08:12 +0000 Received: from SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.3.81]) by SJCPEX01CL01.citrite.net ([10.216.14.143]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 20:08:10 -0700 From: Russell Pavlicek To: Roger Pau Monne , Russ Pavlicek Thread-Topic: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list Thread-Index: AQHPUwysosrJTvcOEUOj1n+FOQugH5sH8VwAgAAlu4CAAAIugIABGV+AgAAmDoCAFUIkFg== Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:08:09 +0000 Message-ID: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA2655472@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> References: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> <5343E7DD.7030902@citrix.com> , <5344F5A5.6060704@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <5344F5A5.6060704@citrix.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.13.112.14] MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Roger, I've taken the liberty of modifying your event listing to include the topic= , date, and time of your specific talk. We want to encourage folks from th= e community to block off the time for your talk before they ever consult th= e rest of the conference schedule. Russ Pavlicek Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems Home Office: +1-301-829-5327 Mobile: +1-240-397-0199 UK VoIP: +44 1223 852 894 ________________________________________ From: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org [publicity-bounces@lists.xenpr= oject.org] on behalf of Roger Pau Monn=E9 [roger.pau@citrix.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 3:24 AM To: Russ Pavlicek Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list On 09/04/14 07:08, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > Roger, > > I believe the login overstrike issue should now be fixed. If it is > not, please let me know. > Thanks Russ, I can confirm it's now fixed (at least with my browser/OS combination). Roger. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 23 03:08:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:08:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcnXl-0006FV-2W; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:08:17 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcnXj-0006FQ-92 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:08:15 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:25702] by server-6.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id C8/72-00470-E9E27535; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:08:14 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1398222492!3311850!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12238 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2014 03:08:13 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Apr 2014 03:08:13 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,908,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="122536637" Received: from sjcpex01cl01.citrite.net ([10.216.14.143]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 23 Apr 2014 03:08:12 +0000 Received: from SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.3.81]) by SJCPEX01CL01.citrite.net ([10.216.14.143]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 20:08:10 -0700 From: Russell Pavlicek To: Roger Pau Monne , Russ Pavlicek Thread-Topic: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list Thread-Index: AQHPUwysosrJTvcOEUOj1n+FOQugH5sH8VwAgAAlu4CAAAIugIABGV+AgAAmDoCAFUIkFg== Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:08:09 +0000 Message-ID: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA2655472@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> References: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> <5343E7DD.7030902@citrix.com> , <5344F5A5.6060704@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <5344F5A5.6060704@citrix.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.13.112.14] MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Roger, I've taken the liberty of modifying your event listing to include the topic= , date, and time of your specific talk. We want to encourage folks from th= e community to block off the time for your talk before they ever consult th= e rest of the conference schedule. Russ Pavlicek Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems Home Office: +1-301-829-5327 Mobile: +1-240-397-0199 UK VoIP: +44 1223 852 894 ________________________________________ From: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org [publicity-bounces@lists.xenpr= oject.org] on behalf of Roger Pau Monn=E9 [roger.pau@citrix.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 3:24 AM To: Russ Pavlicek Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list On 09/04/14 07:08, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > Roger, > > I believe the login overstrike issue should now be fixed. If it is > not, please let me know. > Thanks Russ, I can confirm it's now fixed (at least with my browser/OS combination). Roger. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 23 07:03:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 07:03:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcrDa-00053v-EY; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 07:03:42 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcrDZ-00053a-5r for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 07:03:41 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:3457] by server-3.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 9D/91-22179-CC567535; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 07:03:40 +0000 X-Env-Sender: roger.pau@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1398236618!267982!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26782 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2014 07:03:39 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-12.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Apr 2014 07:03:39 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,910,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="123665516" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 23 Apr 2014 07:03:38 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:03:37 -0400 Message-ID: <535765CA.9010000@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:03:38 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_Pau_Monn=E9?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russell Pavlicek , Russ Pavlicek References: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> <5343E7DD.7030902@citrix.com> , <5344F5A5.6060704@citrix.com> <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA2655472@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> In-Reply-To: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA2655472@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 23/04/14 05:08, Russell Pavlicek wrote: > Roger, > > I've taken the liberty of modifying your event listing to include the topic, date, and time of your specific talk. We want to encourage folks from the community to block off the time for your talk before they ever consult the rest of the conference schedule. Thanks Russ, I was unsure about if/how I should put specific info about my talk. Roger. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 23 07:03:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 07:03:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcrDa-00053v-EY; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 07:03:42 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcrDZ-00053a-5r for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 07:03:41 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:3457] by server-3.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 9D/91-22179-CC567535; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 07:03:40 +0000 X-Env-Sender: roger.pau@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1398236618!267982!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26782 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2014 07:03:39 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-12.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Apr 2014 07:03:39 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,910,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="123665516" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 23 Apr 2014 07:03:38 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:03:37 -0400 Message-ID: <535765CA.9010000@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:03:38 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_Pau_Monn=E9?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russell Pavlicek , Russ Pavlicek References: <5343C076.6020604@citrix.com> <5343C836.6010104@xen.org> <5343E7DD.7030902@citrix.com> , <5344F5A5.6060704@citrix.com> <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA2655472@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> In-Reply-To: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA2655472@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Listing BSDCan on the Xen Project events list X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 23/04/14 05:08, Russell Pavlicek wrote: > Roger, > > I've taken the liberty of modifying your event listing to include the topic, date, and time of your specific talk. We want to encourage folks from the community to block off the time for your talk before they ever consult the rest of the conference schedule. Thanks Russ, I was unsure about if/how I should put specific info about my talk. Roger. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 23 10:53:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:53:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcuoN-0004Ge-OT; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:53:55 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcuoL-0004GG-KQ for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:53:54 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:63367] by server-5.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id D2/C6-18761-0CB97535; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:53:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1398250431!8474804!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.172] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.4 required=7.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28169 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2014 10:53:51 -0000 Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com (HELO mail-we0-f172.google.com) (74.125.82.172) by server-14.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Apr 2014 10:53:51 -0000 Received: by mail-we0-f172.google.com with SMTP id t61so683041wes.31 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:53:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vhOh1Il6br2iDvpL47n4Y5i3kKO+rkszZseiQ78W8CY=; b=GclqJ9qM72wQaZeil6Glibu6SOt0oVC5w04hnGAtOMbLywkf0A61iTShxDQi8wsZrz f/f4/qtFRS5sAL7yMKXFK8rRF5oNDiWu9t49TnrEdQ2zqXk+dk5k7dbmdbLyqwCSo2+7 h/uWczJA4lePHRnY7trTO1vt6V41sh/WaWIi4= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vhOh1Il6br2iDvpL47n4Y5i3kKO+rkszZseiQ78W8CY=; b=mdzYAyDwR49cpvEmkI6K1ugvXN35TMpspmJgZ0XTekMNsqGae5BdILJX5VrXf3ViQV LnXSOpsn1EiaDMtAEmZ2hDQqucBal4AtfJ1SvMwS1FDYSW26Isqcbt1UCgbq5BuwdXOr aWzoRHz5pzlCjbK/s0YfFupIA0K4yxDgA1AhopnTcEljZVWXuiw0yDXDWRHJubt9VVol Jaf8ysABqQlTcij/nfe7UaVkiR2TYdG+ptDkR3vuzRr5ip2jW+XcuOm8radIrUXwGsFs nQ4lEuNnQ6fBhHyEVWx5r9F/Tm/qWyrCCoT5TZKStTxtHLSsxRq8BHzcfpDnKd8OWnUw MTpQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkzL32uDOGWs4R1xNeuOVXVzYEhBWd8CKUsGb50SzLlULIWS/XpIoNahUWEVSn4+GPDW2VL MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.84.226 with SMTP id c2mr1297368wiz.50.1398250431095; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.77.98 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:53:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5356A1E2.8040007@xen.org> References: <5356A1E2.8040007@xen.org> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 06:53:51 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: Lars Kurth Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] GSoC + OPW Blog post for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8779189768786840524==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============8779189768786840524== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044280de40be5e04f7b38c2a --f46d044280de40be5e04f7b38c2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Lars, Looks like we're not trying to apply TM rules to this blog. Think you are confusing applicants and winners/chosen interns. How about this intro. instead? Google and the Outreach Program for Women (OPW) just announced GSoC students and OPW interns. I wanted to briefly introduce our new interns and their projects, and ask you to welcome them to the project. We had a large number of applicants and could only take the best 7 (5 interns for GSoC and 2 for OPW). What is remarkable this year, is that 4 out of the 7 winning applicants to the Xen Project are women. Also, suggest a change to this sentence: This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pages, introducing the concept of Lazy restore and using memory paging. How about this instead? This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pages, using memory paging to introduce the concept of Lazy restore. Also, does Lazy need to be capitalized? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > See http://blog.xen.org/?p=9177&preview=true > > Some of the project descriptions could probably do with a little bit more > detail and need to be vetted for correctness > > Regards > Lars > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --f46d044280de40be5e04f7b38c2a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lars,

Looks like we're n= ot trying to apply TM rules to this blog.=A0

Think= you are confusing applicants and winners/chosen interns. How about this in= tro. instead?

Google and the Outreach Program for Women (OPW) just a= nnounced=A0GSoC students=A0and=A0OPW interns= . I wanted to briefly introduce our new interns and their projects, and ask= you to welcome them to the project.

We had a large number of applicants and could only take the best 7 (5 inte= rns for GSoC and 2 for OPW). What is remarkable this year, is that 4 out of= the 7 winning applicants to the Xen Project are women.

Also, suggest a change to this sentence:

This project wi= ll load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pa= ges, introducing the concept of Lazy restore and using memory paging.
How about this instead?=A0
This project will load = what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pages, usi= ng memory paging to introduce the concept of Lazy restore.

Also= , does Lazy need to be capitalized?=A0
 --f46d044280de40be5e04f7b38c2a-- --===============8779189768786840524== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============8779189768786840524==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 23 10:53:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:53:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcuoN-0004Ge-OT; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:53:55 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcuoL-0004GG-KQ for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:53:54 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:63367] by server-5.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id D2/C6-18761-0CB97535; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:53:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1398250431!8474804!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.172] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.4 required=7.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28169 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2014 10:53:51 -0000 Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com (HELO mail-we0-f172.google.com) (74.125.82.172) by server-14.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Apr 2014 10:53:51 -0000 Received: by mail-we0-f172.google.com with SMTP id t61so683041wes.31 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:53:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vhOh1Il6br2iDvpL47n4Y5i3kKO+rkszZseiQ78W8CY=; b=GclqJ9qM72wQaZeil6Glibu6SOt0oVC5w04hnGAtOMbLywkf0A61iTShxDQi8wsZrz f/f4/qtFRS5sAL7yMKXFK8rRF5oNDiWu9t49TnrEdQ2zqXk+dk5k7dbmdbLyqwCSo2+7 h/uWczJA4lePHRnY7trTO1vt6V41sh/WaWIi4= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vhOh1Il6br2iDvpL47n4Y5i3kKO+rkszZseiQ78W8CY=; b=mdzYAyDwR49cpvEmkI6K1ugvXN35TMpspmJgZ0XTekMNsqGae5BdILJX5VrXf3ViQV LnXSOpsn1EiaDMtAEmZ2hDQqucBal4AtfJ1SvMwS1FDYSW26Isqcbt1UCgbq5BuwdXOr aWzoRHz5pzlCjbK/s0YfFupIA0K4yxDgA1AhopnTcEljZVWXuiw0yDXDWRHJubt9VVol Jaf8ysABqQlTcij/nfe7UaVkiR2TYdG+ptDkR3vuzRr5ip2jW+XcuOm8radIrUXwGsFs nQ4lEuNnQ6fBhHyEVWx5r9F/Tm/qWyrCCoT5TZKStTxtHLSsxRq8BHzcfpDnKd8OWnUw MTpQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkzL32uDOGWs4R1xNeuOVXVzYEhBWd8CKUsGb50SzLlULIWS/XpIoNahUWEVSn4+GPDW2VL MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.84.226 with SMTP id c2mr1297368wiz.50.1398250431095; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.77.98 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:53:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5356A1E2.8040007@xen.org> References: <5356A1E2.8040007@xen.org> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 06:53:51 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: Lars Kurth Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] GSoC + OPW Blog post for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8779189768786840524==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============8779189768786840524== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044280de40be5e04f7b38c2a --f46d044280de40be5e04f7b38c2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Lars, Looks like we're not trying to apply TM rules to this blog. Think you are confusing applicants and winners/chosen interns. How about this intro. instead? Google and the Outreach Program for Women (OPW) just announced GSoC students and OPW interns. I wanted to briefly introduce our new interns and their projects, and ask you to welcome them to the project. We had a large number of applicants and could only take the best 7 (5 interns for GSoC and 2 for OPW). What is remarkable this year, is that 4 out of the 7 winning applicants to the Xen Project are women. Also, suggest a change to this sentence: This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pages, introducing the concept of Lazy restore and using memory paging. How about this instead? This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pages, using memory paging to introduce the concept of Lazy restore. Also, does Lazy need to be capitalized? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > See http://blog.xen.org/?p=9177&preview=true > > Some of the project descriptions could probably do with a little bit more > detail and need to be vetted for correctness > > Regards > Lars > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --f46d044280de40be5e04f7b38c2a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lars,

Looks like we're n= ot trying to apply TM rules to this blog.=A0

Think= you are confusing applicants and winners/chosen interns. How about this in= tro. instead?

Google and the Outreach Program for Women (OPW) just a= nnounced=A0GSoC students=A0and=A0OPW interns= . I wanted to briefly introduce our new interns and their projects, and ask= you to welcome them to the project.

We had a large number of applicants and could only take the best 7 (5 inte= rns for GSoC and 2 for OPW). What is remarkable this year, is that 4 out of= the 7 winning applicants to the Xen Project are women.

Also, suggest a change to this sentence:

This project wi= ll load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pa= ges, introducing the concept of Lazy restore and using memory paging.
How about this instead?=A0
This project will load = what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pages, usi= ng memory paging to introduce the concept of Lazy restore.

Also= , does Lazy need to be capitalized?=A0


On Tue,= Apr 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> w= rote:
See http://blog.xen.org/?p=3D9177&preview=3Dtrue

Some of the project descriptions could probably do with a little bit more d= etail and need to be vetted for correctness

Regards
Lars

_______________________________________________
Publicity mailing list
Publici= ty@lists.xenproject.org
http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin= fo/publicity



--
Sarah Conway
PR Manager
The Linux Foundat= ion
sco= nway@linuxfoundation.org
(978) 578-5300 =A0Cell
Skype: =A0sarah.k.conway


On Tue,= Apr 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> w= rote:
See http://blog.xen.org/?p=3D9177&preview=3Dtrue

Some of the project descriptions could probably do with a little bit more d= etail and need to be vetted for correctness

Regards
Lars

_______________________________________________
Publicity mailing list
Publici= ty@lists.xenproject.org
http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin= fo/publicity



--
Sarah Conway
PR Manager
The Linux Foundat= ion
sco= nway@linuxfoundation.org
(978) 578-5300 =A0Cell
Skype: =A0sarah.k.conway
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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t18sm3608758wiv.16.2014.04.23.04.12.20 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Apr 2014 04:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5357A013.2050700@xen.org> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:12:19 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sarah Conway References: <5356A1E2.8040007@xen.org> In-Reply-To: Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] GSoC + OPW Blog post for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5878419114489187454==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5878419114489187454== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090502020403080709070406" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090502020403080709070406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fixed. OPW is really picky about not calling their winners students and GSoC is picky about not calling students interns As for TM rules : I didn't want to change the titles of the projects as these are how they were submitted by the applicants and changing them will make it hard to cross reference the proposals. I mainly took the descriptions from the proposals as well and fixed them were there were grammar and syntax errors. I will leave this for now ... Lars On 23/04/2014 11:53, Sarah Conway wrote: > Lars, > > Looks like we're not trying to apply TM rules to this blog. > > Think you are confusing applicants and winners/chosen interns. How > about this intro. instead? > > Google and the Outreach Program for Women (OPW) just announced GSoC > students > and > OPW interns > . > I wanted to briefly introduce our new interns and their projects, and > ask you to welcome them to the project. > > We had a large number of applicants and could only take the best 7 (5 > interns for GSoC and 2 for OPW). What is remarkable this year, is that > 4 out of the 7 winning applicants to the Xen Project are women. > > Also, suggest a change to this sentence: > > This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault > handler load the pages, introducing the concept of Lazy restore and > using memory paging. > How about this instead? > This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault > handler load the pages, using memory paging to introduce the concept > of Lazy restore. > > Also, does Lazy need to be capitalized? > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Lars Kurth > wrote: > > See http://blog.xen.org/?p=9177&preview=true > > Some of the project descriptions could probably do with a little > bit more detail and need to be vetted for correctness > > Regards > Lars > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > > -- > Sarah Conway > PR Manager > The Linux Foundation > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > (978) 578-5300 Cell > Skype: sarah.k.conway --------------090502020403080709070406 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Fixed. OPW is really picky about not calling their winners students and GSoC is picky about not calling students interns

As for TM rules : I didn't want to change the titles of the projects as these are how they were submitted by the applicants and changing them will make it hard to cross reference the proposals. I mainly took the descriptions from the proposals as well and fixed them were there were grammar and syntax errors. I will leave this for now ...

Lars

On 23/04/2014 11:53, Sarah Conway wrote:
Lars,

Looks like we're not trying to apply TM rules to this blog. 

Think you are confusing applicants and winners/chosen interns. How about this intro. instead?

Google and the Outreach Program for Women (OPW) just announced GSoC students and OPW interns. I wanted to briefly introduce our new interns and their projects, and ask you to welcome them to the project.

We had a large number of applicants and could only take the best 7 (5 interns for GSoC and 2 for OPW). What is remarkable this year, is that 4 out of the 7 winning applicants to the Xen Project are women.

Also, suggest a change to this sentence:

This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pages, introducing the concept of Lazy restore and using memory paging.
How about this instead? 
This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pages, using memory paging to introduce the concept of Lazy restore.

Also, does Lazy need to be capitalized? 


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:
See http://blog.xen.org/?p=9177&preview=true

Some of the project descriptions could probably do with a little bit more detail and need to be vetted for correctness

Regards
Lars

_______________________________________________
Publicity mailing list
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http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity



--
Sarah Conway
PR Manager
The Linux Foundation
sconway@linuxfoundation.org
(978) 578-5300  Cell
Skype:  sarah.k.conway

--------------090502020403080709070406-- --===============5878419114489187454== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============5878419114489187454==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 23 11:12:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:12:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wcv6J-0006St-0Q; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:12:27 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wcv6G-0006Sa-Gc for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:12:24 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:13226] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 4E/F2-13602-710A7535; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:12:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1398251541!486161!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18751 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2014 11:12:22 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f171.google.com) (209.85.212.171) by server-12.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Apr 2014 11:12:22 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id q5so4697771wiv.16 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 04:12:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=M0SCLVIACjdlr1rB+uG/QGp0MTRMLe7AZpTtkozS8GE=; b=FKu3bxGxSgapRYsNJ2DOljNKg0MeT38HM/vrTt/DAJJ3X0lWNa9jb8MU38YuROCZjS UmZd2ocjYn3pQdBSROde1EWweqPujT5GaMyNbmMs2ePTi7K95tRS8C3HFLT0vcdCE3ja idbibgnayIV5dCt0TtAc3fsDmsf5Pxk1k6hU7MWMFMCN/BYw7HyAuDq0gLSh/D7Gjpnu DHOjKtkIpWR32ngjLCa5wiz73j83lnkSWypMaJS6cztS5ZDyYMVRs5UFUp3Tsb/VTGxf t8lEMzHGMf1qqdguXdX2jXiFsj9Nr5rS4DWYflcUSiux3uSE3hwPnxqrcU4Sf5dcgQEO E71g== X-Received: by 10.194.71.164 with SMTP id w4mr38628572wju.0.1398251541499; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 04:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t18sm3608758wiv.16.2014.04.23.04.12.20 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Apr 2014 04:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5357A013.2050700@xen.org> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:12:19 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sarah Conway References: <5356A1E2.8040007@xen.org> In-Reply-To: Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] GSoC + OPW Blog post for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5878419114489187454==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5878419114489187454== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090502020403080709070406" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090502020403080709070406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fixed. OPW is really picky about not calling their winners students and GSoC is picky about not calling students interns As for TM rules : I didn't want to change the titles of the projects as these are how they were submitted by the applicants and changing them will make it hard to cross reference the proposals. I mainly took the descriptions from the proposals as well and fixed them were there were grammar and syntax errors. I will leave this for now ... Lars On 23/04/2014 11:53, Sarah Conway wrote: > Lars, > > Looks like we're not trying to apply TM rules to this blog. > > Think you are confusing applicants and winners/chosen interns. How > about this intro. instead? > > Google and the Outreach Program for Women (OPW) just announced GSoC > students > and > OPW interns > . > I wanted to briefly introduce our new interns and their projects, and > ask you to welcome them to the project. > > We had a large number of applicants and could only take the best 7 (5 > interns for GSoC and 2 for OPW). What is remarkable this year, is that > 4 out of the 7 winning applicants to the Xen Project are women. > > Also, suggest a change to this sentence: > > This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault > handler load the pages, introducing the concept of Lazy restore and > using memory paging. > How about this instead? > This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault > handler load the pages, using memory paging to introduce the concept > of Lazy restore. > > Also, does Lazy need to be capitalized? > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Lars Kurth > wrote: > > See http://blog.xen.org/?p=9177&preview=true > > Some of the project descriptions could probably do with a little > bit more detail and need to be vetted for correctness > > Regards > Lars > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > > -- > Sarah Conway > PR Manager > The Linux Foundation > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > (978) 578-5300 Cell > Skype: sarah.k.conway --------------090502020403080709070406 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Fixed. OPW is really picky about not calling their winners students and GSoC is picky about not calling students interns

As for TM rules : I didn't want to change the titles of the projects as these are how they were submitted by the applicants and changing them will make it hard to cross reference the proposals. I mainly took the descriptions from the proposals as well and fixed them were there were grammar and syntax errors. I will leave this for now ...

Lars

On 23/04/2014 11:53, Sarah Conway wrote:
Lars,

Looks like we're not trying to apply TM rules to this blog. 

Think you are confusing applicants and winners/chosen interns. How about this intro. instead?

Google and the Outreach Program for Women (OPW) just announced GSoC students and OPW interns. I wanted to briefly introduce our new interns and their projects, and ask you to welcome them to the project.

We had a large number of applicants and could only take the best 7 (5 interns for GSoC and 2 for OPW). What is remarkable this year, is that 4 out of the 7 winning applicants to the Xen Project are women.

Also, suggest a change to this sentence:

This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pages, introducing the concept of Lazy restore and using memory paging.
How about this instead? 
This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pages, using memory paging to introduce the concept of Lazy restore.

Also, does Lazy need to be capitalized? 


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:
See http://blog.xen.org/?p=9177&preview=true

Some of the project descriptions could probably do with a little bit more detail and need to be vetted for correctness

Regards
Lars

_______________________________________________
Publicity mailing list
Publicity@lists.xenproject.org
http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity



--
Sarah Conway
PR Manager
The Linux Foundation
sconway@linuxfoundation.org
(978) 578-5300  Cell
Skype:  sarah.k.conway

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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ft8sm29014057wib.13.2014.04.23.06.25.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Apr 2014 06:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5357BF43.8050800@xen.org> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 14:25:23 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sarah Conway References: <5356A1E2.8040007@xen.org> In-Reply-To: Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] GSoC + OPW Blog post for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7671207139749457030==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7671207139749457030== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080001020107080606090209" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080001020107080606090209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alright, I am going to push the buttin 30 minutes Lars On 23/04/2014 11:53, Sarah Conway wrote: > Lars, > > Looks like we're not trying to apply TM rules to this blog. > > Think you are confusing applicants and winners/chosen interns. How > about this intro. instead? > > Google and the Outreach Program for Women (OPW) just announced GSoC > students > and > OPW interns > . > I wanted to briefly introduce our new interns and their projects, and > ask you to welcome them to the project. > > We had a large number of applicants and could only take the best 7 (5 > interns for GSoC and 2 for OPW). What is remarkable this year, is that > 4 out of the 7 winning applicants to the Xen Project are women. > > Also, suggest a change to this sentence: > > This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault > handler load the pages, introducing the concept of Lazy restore and > using memory paging. > How about this instead? > This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault > handler load the pages, using memory paging to introduce the concept > of Lazy restore. > > Also, does Lazy need to be capitalized? > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Lars Kurth > wrote: > > See http://blog.xen.org/?p=9177&preview=true > > Some of the project descriptions could probably do with a little > bit more detail and need to be vetted for correctness > > Regards > Lars > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > > -- > Sarah Conway > PR Manager > The Linux Foundation > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > (978) 578-5300 Cell > Skype: sarah.k.conway --------------080001020107080606090209 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Alright,
I am going to push the buttin 30 minutes
Lars

On 23/04/2014 11:53, Sarah Conway wrote:
Lars,

Looks like we're not trying to apply TM rules to this blog. 

Think you are confusing applicants and winners/chosen interns. How about this intro. instead?

Google and the Outreach Program for Women (OPW) just announced GSoC students and OPW interns. I wanted to briefly introduce our new interns and their projects, and ask you to welcome them to the project.

We had a large number of applicants and could only take the best 7 (5 interns for GSoC and 2 for OPW). What is remarkable this year, is that 4 out of the 7 winning applicants to the Xen Project are women.

Also, suggest a change to this sentence:

This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pages, introducing the concept of Lazy restore and using memory paging.
How about this instead? 
This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pages, using memory paging to introduce the concept of Lazy restore.

Also, does Lazy need to be capitalized? 


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:
See http://blog.xen.org/?p=9177&preview=true

Some of the project descriptions could probably do with a little bit more detail and need to be vetted for correctness

Regards
Lars

_______________________________________________
Publicity mailing list
Publicity@lists.xenproject.org
http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity



--
Sarah Conway
PR Manager
The Linux Foundation
sconway@linuxfoundation.org
(978) 578-5300  Cell
Skype:  sarah.k.conway

--------------080001020107080606090209-- --===============7671207139749457030== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============7671207139749457030==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 23 13:25:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 13:25:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcxB3-0000Hj-97; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 13:25:29 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WcxB1-0000HT-GW for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 13:25:27 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:41615] by server-9.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id B4/93-04350-64FB7535; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 13:25:26 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1398259525!152796!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.177] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25058 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2014 13:25:25 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f177.google.com) (209.85.212.177) by server-3.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Apr 2014 13:25:25 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id cc10so1130688wib.10 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 06:25:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=JF6tbtfHnliXv0qlJ4kykWZYPEgWXWS9DdyDkfjFGGw=; b=fGfyM7Swzofu9MgBDqazgEWq34z7x3dhi9Zf5NOLC6WhejXw7dYcduwVPsjR/NEBnD NWTPuk2+4C8G/6MILK+G+m+s7r0fSysWjTWq0M785+lr+s4z7NxZV85FN0EMfHud/k9J gUV5pRy3tNfiK3PHo0UqY2aAS7CJpK0gULCUv7FyQkj/BewSw2KJ2XjTRBzwRS1ElCCw 4fu4s1zvOZ2dRbww3tQ3Uh5SGWasDzHnRG0WU93UpbrDlXi82l7qFlqQQu9jQevVGlHT z64vVBfIbcqkylrUTqxrsoLZA4ufmSD68ZMd2PJJTQrWjO63dJRAPKJMWkO1qVJv1M7k X1mg== X-Received: by 10.180.39.178 with SMTP id q18mr1842702wik.56.1398259524909; Wed, 23 Apr 2014 06:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ft8sm29014057wib.13.2014.04.23.06.25.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Apr 2014 06:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5357BF43.8050800@xen.org> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 14:25:23 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sarah Conway References: <5356A1E2.8040007@xen.org> In-Reply-To: Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] GSoC + OPW Blog post for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7671207139749457030==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7671207139749457030== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080001020107080606090209" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080001020107080606090209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alright, I am going to push the buttin 30 minutes Lars On 23/04/2014 11:53, Sarah Conway wrote: > Lars, > > Looks like we're not trying to apply TM rules to this blog. > > Think you are confusing applicants and winners/chosen interns. How > about this intro. instead? > > Google and the Outreach Program for Women (OPW) just announced GSoC > students > and > OPW interns > . > I wanted to briefly introduce our new interns and their projects, and > ask you to welcome them to the project. > > We had a large number of applicants and could only take the best 7 (5 > interns for GSoC and 2 for OPW). What is remarkable this year, is that > 4 out of the 7 winning applicants to the Xen Project are women. > > Also, suggest a change to this sentence: > > This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault > handler load the pages, introducing the concept of Lazy restore and > using memory paging. > How about this instead? > This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault > handler load the pages, using memory paging to introduce the concept > of Lazy restore. > > Also, does Lazy need to be capitalized? > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Lars Kurth > wrote: > > See http://blog.xen.org/?p=9177&preview=true > > Some of the project descriptions could probably do with a little > bit more detail and need to be vetted for correctness > > Regards > Lars > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > > -- > Sarah Conway > PR Manager > The Linux Foundation > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > (978) 578-5300 Cell > Skype: sarah.k.conway --------------080001020107080606090209 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Alright,
I am going to push the buttin 30 minutes
Lars

On 23/04/2014 11:53, Sarah Conway wrote:
Lars,

Looks like we're not trying to apply TM rules to this blog. 

Think you are confusing applicants and winners/chosen interns. How about this intro. instead?

Google and the Outreach Program for Women (OPW) just announced GSoC students and OPW interns. I wanted to briefly introduce our new interns and their projects, and ask you to welcome them to the project.

We had a large number of applicants and could only take the best 7 (5 interns for GSoC and 2 for OPW). What is remarkable this year, is that 4 out of the 7 winning applicants to the Xen Project are women.

Also, suggest a change to this sentence:

This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pages, introducing the concept of Lazy restore and using memory paging.
How about this instead? 
This project will load what we call an empty VM and let the page fault handler load the pages, using memory paging to introduce the concept of Lazy restore.

Also, does Lazy need to be capitalized? 


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:
See http://blog.xen.org/?p=9177&preview=true

Some of the project descriptions could probably do with a little bit more detail and need to be vetted for correctness

Regards
Lars

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--------------080001020107080606090209-- --===============7671207139749457030== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============7671207139749457030==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 24 15:41:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:41:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WdLm5-0000XK-AN; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:41:21 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WdLm3-0000WQ-Oq for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:41:20 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:40379] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 7B/0D-06539-F9039535; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:41:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1398354076!835638!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5774 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2014 15:41:17 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-4.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 24 Apr 2014 15:41:17 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,919,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="123164061" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 24 Apr 2014 15:41:15 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 11:41:14 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WdLXo-00080D-6e; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 16:26:36 +0100 Message-ID: <53592D2A.2090205@eu.citrix.com> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 16:26:34 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Sarah Conway , Stefano Stabellini References: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> <53442E2C.2090001@xen.org> <535627A2.3030706@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <535627A2.3030706@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7020539827313307407==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============7020539827313307407== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090607070200010302080507" --------------090607070200010302080507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, this set of slides, *from a docker employee* (it looks like), is interesting: http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security Basically, he admits that a Linux container that is useful will still be vulnerable; and he says that "the road to bulletproof containers" is to use lxc *only* for a delivery mechanism, and to have either one container per machine, or one container per VM. -George On 04/22/2014 09:26 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > Another one > http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-ubuntu-and-docker-container-virtualization-goes-mainstream-7000028610/ > and x-reffed http://robhirschfeld.com/2014/04/18/docker-real-or-hype/ > Lars > > On 08/04/2014 19:45, Sarah Conway wrote: >> >> Here's yet another article that just came out on the topic from >> Steven Vaughan Nichols, who did meet with Mark H. and Richard Phelan >> at Collab. Don't think this topic came up though. >> >> http://blog.smartbear.com/web-monitoring/why-containers-instead-of-hypervisors/ >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stefano Stabellini >> > > wrote: >> >> Yes, there are: miniOS is similar to OSv but less complete and only >> supports PV guests. >> The miniOS approach allows one POSIX application to run within one PV >> guest virtual machine with minimal operating system overhead. At the >> same time PV (and the newer PVH) guests are low overhead compared >> to HVM >> guests as they don't provide any emulated interfaces. >> Overall miniOS (or OSv) on a PV guest is a great fit for >> micro-virtualization. >> >> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Sarah Conway wrote: >> > I like Stefano's point about Xen building bridges here -- seems >> like a new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The >> > fact that Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary >> choice might play reasonably well. >> > Are there are any major technical differences between the >> miniOS approach and containers? >> > Thanks, >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth > > wrote: >> > I think it's a great post >> > Lars >> > >> > On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote: >> > I've got the following blog post queued for >> open.citrix.com later >> > today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely). >> > >> > I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so >> if anyone has >> > concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so >> if you can. >> > Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is >> autopublished later tonight. >> > >> > It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted >> to highlight the >> > MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app >> farms. >> > >> > --- >> > >> > Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question? >> > >> > Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require >> Scrapping Your Hypervisor >> > >> > Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling >> the seemingly >> > endless virtues of Linux Containers. I heard >> claims that hypervisors >> > were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on >> inefficient >> > replication of a large operating system stack in >> order to serve up >> > applications. The speaker painted a picture of a >> future where >> > hundreds of applications are virtualized on each >> piece of hardware. >> > "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a >> lightweight, >> > efficient means of serving up application: containers." >> > >> > Containers are cool, but not a panacea >> > >> > Containers share the same kernel as the host, so >> they are not burdened >> > with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to >> replicate a full >> > operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. >> Compared to >> > hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers >> can be fast and >> > lean. But they are also limited. >> > >> > Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the >> host, it is >> > impossible to run Windows. Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. >> Or another >> > version of the Linux kernel. Or another Linux >> distribution which >> > requires a different kernel. All of those >> scenarios are best handled >> > by a real hypervisor. And the security aspect of >> hypervisors is huge, >> > worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. Still, >> if you need an >> > environment within your organization where many >> workloads can leverage >> > a single kernel environment, containers can be a >> viable solution. >> > >> > However, some of the most vocal container advocates >> insist that these >> > problems relating to containers are really >> application problems in >> > disguise. Issues about kernel support and security >> are the results of >> > improper application design, they claim. When we >> raise the bar on >> > applications so that they are based solely on >> access to application >> > servers, then the objections to containers will >> melt away -- and so >> > will hypervisors, for the most part. Or that's >> what some of these >> > advocates claim, at least. >> > >> > The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated >> > >> > But is there another scenario which could answer >> the call for highly >> > responsive and lightweight virtual instances which >> does not use the >> > container solution? Maybe one that can actually >> leverage the >> > flexibility and security which is part and parcel >> with most >> > hypervisors? >> > >> > Yes, in fact, there is. And the key is in the very >> > application-centric future which some container >> advocates believe will >> > cause the hypervisor to become obsolete. >> > >> > Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System >> > >> > Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of >> replicating a full >> > operating system, we can replicate ultra-light >> application-centric >> > operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. >> A number of these >> > lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen >> recently, including >> > the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius >> Systems' OSv. These >> > lightweight operating systems, sometimes called >> "cloud operating >> > systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk >> to hardware -- >> > because they aren't meant to run on hardware. And >> they lack >> > multiprocess capabilities because they are not >> intended to be general >> > timesharing systems, but dedicated application >> server systems. As a >> > result, they are very small, very lightweight, and >> can start up >> > amazingly quickly in a VM environment. They enable >> the vision of >> > light and fast application servers, while >> preserving the superior >> > security and flexibility of true hypervisors. >> > >> > Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty >> application bath water >> > >> > So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of >> small, efficient >> > application VMs packed into a minimum of number of >> servers, but >> > cringing at the notion of totally retooling your >> virtualization >> > infrastructure and rethinking your entire security >> mindset, don't >> > fret. That vision is achievable while maintaining >> the flexibility and >> > security that mature hypervisors deliver. Focus on >> a streamlined >> > application stack, and the vision of dense, >> efficient application VMs >> > is achievable -- regardless of whether you are >> using hypervisors, >> > containers, or both. >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini >> > > > wrote: >> > Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we >> choose to have upstream >> > QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy >> to use for other POSIX >> > applications too, so that we can advertise it >> as a generic solution for >> > Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure >> alternative to containers. >> > >> > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >> > Given that most people only use one VM >> for one task, the rise of >> > "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they >> are based on OSv (miniOS or rump >> > kernels) on traditional hypervisors or >> on Docker, ZeroVM or other types >> > of containers. >> > >> > However what these articles don't take >> into account is that Xen can >> > already handle both kind of workloads >> extremely well: Xen can handle >> > fat >> > old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new >> style lightweight micro-VMs, >> > with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) >> inside a PV guest. >> > >> > If I manage to carve the time to do it >> I might be able to write a blog >> > post about it. >> > >> > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: >> > See: >> > >> > * >> > >> http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ >> > * On the other hand there is this >> article: >> > >> http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ >> > (both by Simon Crosby) >> > >> > Generally for the security >> discussion, which is related, >> > the following >> > articles may be relevant: >> > * >> > >> http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ >> > * >> > http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security >> > The following two may also be >> useful (and contain quite a >> > few useful links) >> > despite also being partly a >> product pitch: >> > * >> > >> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ >> > * >> > >> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protect >> > ion/ >> > >> > Lars >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Publicity mailing list >> > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> >> > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Publicity mailing list >> > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> >> > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Publicity mailing list >> > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> >> > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Publicity mailing list >> > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> >> > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Publicity mailing list >> > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> >> > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Sarah Conway >> > PR Manager >> > The Linux Foundation >> > sconway@linuxfoundation.org >> > (978) 578-5300 Cell >> > Skype: sarah.k.conway >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sarah Conway >> PR Manager >> The Linux Foundation >> sconway@linuxfoundation.org >> (978) 578-5300 Cell >> Skype: sarah.k.conway > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --------------090607070200010302080507 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Actually, this set of slides, *from a docker employee* (it looks like), is interesting:

http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security

Basically, he admits that a Linux container that is useful will still be vulnerable; and he says that "the road to bulletproof containers" is to use lxc *only* for a delivery mechanism, and to have either one container per machine, or one container per VM.

 -George

On 04/22/2014 09:26 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
Another one
http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-ubuntu-and-docker-container-virtualization-goes-mainstream-7000028610/
and x-reffed http://robhirschfeld.com/2014/04/18/docker-real-or-hype/
Lars

On 08/04/2014 19:45, Sarah Conway wrote:

Here's yet another article that just came out on the topic from Steven Vaughan Nichols, who did meet with Mark H. and Richard Phelan at Collab. Don't think this topic came up though. 



On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
Yes, there are: miniOS is similar to OSv but less complete and only
supports PV guests.
The miniOS approach allows one POSIX application to run within one PV
guest virtual machine with minimal operating system overhead. At the
same time PV (and the newer PVH) guests are low overhead compared to HVM
guests as they don't provide any emulated interfaces.
Overall miniOS (or OSv) on a PV guest is a great fit for
micro-virtualization.

On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Sarah Conway wrote:
> I like Stefano's point about Xen building bridges here -- seems like a new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The
> fact that Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary choice might play reasonably well.  
> Are there are any major technical differences between the miniOS approach and containers? 
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:
>       I think it's a great post
>       Lars
>
>       On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote:
>             I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.com later
>             today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely).
>
>             I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone has
>             concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you can.
>             Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished later tonight.
>
>             It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to highlight the
>             MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms.
>
>             ---
>
>             Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question?
>
>             Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping Your Hypervisor
>
>             Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the seemingly
>             endless virtues of Linux Containers.  I heard claims that hypervisors
>             were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on inefficient
>             replication of a large operating system stack in order to serve up
>             applications.  The speaker painted a picture of a future where
>             hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of hardware.
>             "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a lightweight,
>             efficient means of serving up application: containers."
>
>             Containers are cool, but not a panacea
>
>             Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are not burdened
>             with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a full
>             operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario.  Compared to
>             hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be fast and
>             lean.  But they are also limited.
>
>             Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it is
>             impossible to run Windows.  Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD.   Or another
>             version of the Linux kernel.  Or another Linux distribution which
>             requires a different kernel.  All of those scenarios are best handled
>             by a real hypervisor.  And the security aspect of hypervisors is huge,
>             worthy of a separate blog entry of its own.  Still, if you need an
>             environment within your organization where many workloads can leverage
>             a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable solution.
>
>             However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist that these
>             problems relating to containers are really application problems in
>             disguise.  Issues about kernel support and security are the results of
>             improper application design, they claim.  When we raise the bar on
>             applications so that they are based solely on access to application
>             servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- and so
>             will hypervisors, for the most part.  Or that's what some of these
>             advocates claim, at least.
>
>             The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated
>
>             But is there another scenario which could answer the call for highly
>             responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not use the
>             container solution?  Maybe one that can actually leverage the
>             flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most
>             hypervisors?
>
>             Yes, in fact, there is.  And the key is in the very
>             application-centric future which some container advocates believe will
>             cause the hypervisor to become obsolete.
>
>             Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System
>
>             Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of replicating a full
>             operating system, we can replicate ultra-light application-centric
>             operating systems which are meant to live in a VM.  A number of these
>             lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, including
>             the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv.  These
>             lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud operating
>             systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to hardware --
>             because they aren't meant to run on hardware.  And they lack
>             multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to be general
>             timesharing systems, but dedicated application server systems.  As a
>             result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start up
>             amazingly quickly in a VM environment.  They enable the vision of
>             light and fast application servers, while preserving the superior
>             security and flexibility of true hypervisors.
>
>             Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty application bath water
>
>             So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, efficient
>             application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, but
>             cringing at the notion of totally retooling your virtualization
>             infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, don't
>             fret.  That vision is achievable while maintaining the flexibility and
>             security that mature hypervisors deliver.  Focus on a streamlined
>             application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient application VMs
>             is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using hypervisors,
>             containers, or both.
>
>
>             On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini
>             <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
>                   Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to have upstream
>                   QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use for other POSIX
>                   applications too, so that we can advertise it as a generic solution for
>                   Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative to containers.
>
>                   On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>                         Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of
>                         "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump
>                         kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types
>                         of containers.
>
>                         However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can
>                         already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle
>                         fat
>                         old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs,
>                         with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest.
>
>                         If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog
>                         post about it.
>
>                         On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote:
>                               See:
>
>                               *
>                               http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/
>                               * On the other hand there is this article:
>                               http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/
>                               (both by Simon Crosby)
>
>                               Generally for the security discussion, which is related,
>                               the following
>                               articles may be relevant:
>                               *
>                               http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/
>                               *
>                               http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security
>                               The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a
>                               few useful links)
>                               despite also being partly a product pitch:
>                               *
>                               http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/
>                               *
> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protect
>                               ion/
>
>                               Lars
>
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--------------090607070200010302080507-- --===============7020539827313307407== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============7020539827313307407==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 24 15:41:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:41:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WdLm5-0000XK-AN; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:41:21 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WdLm3-0000WQ-Oq for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:41:20 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:40379] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 7B/0D-06539-F9039535; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:41:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1398354076!835638!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5774 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2014 15:41:17 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-4.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 24 Apr 2014 15:41:17 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,919,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="123164061" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 24 Apr 2014 15:41:15 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 11:41:14 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WdLXo-00080D-6e; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 16:26:36 +0100 Message-ID: <53592D2A.2090205@eu.citrix.com> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 16:26:34 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Sarah Conway , Stefano Stabellini References: <5343F5FC.6030909@xen.org> <53442E2C.2090001@xen.org> <535627A2.3030706@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <535627A2.3030706@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Seems the VM vs container debate is heating up X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7020539827313307407==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============7020539827313307407== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090607070200010302080507" --------------090607070200010302080507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, this set of slides, *from a docker employee* (it looks like), is interesting: http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security Basically, he admits that a Linux container that is useful will still be vulnerable; and he says that "the road to bulletproof containers" is to use lxc *only* for a delivery mechanism, and to have either one container per machine, or one container per VM. -George On 04/22/2014 09:26 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > Another one > http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-ubuntu-and-docker-container-virtualization-goes-mainstream-7000028610/ > and x-reffed http://robhirschfeld.com/2014/04/18/docker-real-or-hype/ > Lars > > On 08/04/2014 19:45, Sarah Conway wrote: >> >> Here's yet another article that just came out on the topic from >> Steven Vaughan Nichols, who did meet with Mark H. and Richard Phelan >> at Collab. Don't think this topic came up though. >> >> http://blog.smartbear.com/web-monitoring/why-containers-instead-of-hypervisors/ >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stefano Stabellini >> > > wrote: >> >> Yes, there are: miniOS is similar to OSv but less complete and only >> supports PV guests. >> The miniOS approach allows one POSIX application to run within one PV >> guest virtual machine with minimal operating system overhead. At the >> same time PV (and the newer PVH) guests are low overhead compared >> to HVM >> guests as they don't provide any emulated interfaces. >> Overall miniOS (or OSv) on a PV guest is a great fit for >> micro-virtualization. >> >> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Sarah Conway wrote: >> > I like Stefano's point about Xen building bridges here -- seems >> like a new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The >> > fact that Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary >> choice might play reasonably well. >> > Are there are any major technical differences between the >> miniOS approach and containers? >> > Thanks, >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth > > wrote: >> > I think it's a great post >> > Lars >> > >> > On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote: >> > I've got the following blog post queued for >> open.citrix.com later >> > today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely). >> > >> > I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so >> if anyone has >> > concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so >> if you can. >> > Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is >> autopublished later tonight. >> > >> > It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted >> to highlight the >> > MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app >> farms. >> > >> > --- >> > >> > Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question? >> > >> > Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require >> Scrapping Your Hypervisor >> > >> > Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling >> the seemingly >> > endless virtues of Linux Containers. I heard >> claims that hypervisors >> > were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on >> inefficient >> > replication of a large operating system stack in >> order to serve up >> > applications. The speaker painted a picture of a >> future where >> > hundreds of applications are virtualized on each >> piece of hardware. >> > "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a >> lightweight, >> > efficient means of serving up application: containers." >> > >> > Containers are cool, but not a panacea >> > >> > Containers share the same kernel as the host, so >> they are not burdened >> > with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to >> replicate a full >> > operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario. >> Compared to >> > hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers >> can be fast and >> > lean. But they are also limited. >> > >> > Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the >> host, it is >> > impossible to run Windows. Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD. >> Or another >> > version of the Linux kernel. Or another Linux >> distribution which >> > requires a different kernel. All of those >> scenarios are best handled >> > by a real hypervisor. And the security aspect of >> hypervisors is huge, >> > worthy of a separate blog entry of its own. Still, >> if you need an >> > environment within your organization where many >> workloads can leverage >> > a single kernel environment, containers can be a >> viable solution. >> > >> > However, some of the most vocal container advocates >> insist that these >> > problems relating to containers are really >> application problems in >> > disguise. Issues about kernel support and security >> are the results of >> > improper application design, they claim. When we >> raise the bar on >> > applications so that they are based solely on >> access to application >> > servers, then the objections to containers will >> melt away -- and so >> > will hypervisors, for the most part. Or that's >> what some of these >> > advocates claim, at least. >> > >> > The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated >> > >> > But is there another scenario which could answer >> the call for highly >> > responsive and lightweight virtual instances which >> does not use the >> > container solution? Maybe one that can actually >> leverage the >> > flexibility and security which is part and parcel >> with most >> > hypervisors? >> > >> > Yes, in fact, there is. And the key is in the very >> > application-centric future which some container >> advocates believe will >> > cause the hypervisor to become obsolete. >> > >> > Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System >> > >> > Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of >> replicating a full >> > operating system, we can replicate ultra-light >> application-centric >> > operating systems which are meant to live in a VM. >> A number of these >> > lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen >> recently, including >> > the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius >> Systems' OSv. These >> > lightweight operating systems, sometimes called >> "cloud operating >> > systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk >> to hardware -- >> > because they aren't meant to run on hardware. And >> they lack >> > multiprocess capabilities because they are not >> intended to be general >> > timesharing systems, but dedicated application >> server systems. As a >> > result, they are very small, very lightweight, and >> can start up >> > amazingly quickly in a VM environment. They enable >> the vision of >> > light and fast application servers, while >> preserving the superior >> > security and flexibility of true hypervisors. >> > >> > Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty >> application bath water >> > >> > So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of >> small, efficient >> > application VMs packed into a minimum of number of >> servers, but >> > cringing at the notion of totally retooling your >> virtualization >> > infrastructure and rethinking your entire security >> mindset, don't >> > fret. That vision is achievable while maintaining >> the flexibility and >> > security that mature hypervisors deliver. Focus on >> a streamlined >> > application stack, and the vision of dense, >> efficient application VMs >> > is achievable -- regardless of whether you are >> using hypervisors, >> > containers, or both. >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini >> > > > wrote: >> > Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we >> choose to have upstream >> > QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy >> to use for other POSIX >> > applications too, so that we can advertise it >> as a generic solution for >> > Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure >> alternative to containers. >> > >> > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >> > Given that most people only use one VM >> for one task, the rise of >> > "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they >> are based on OSv (miniOS or rump >> > kernels) on traditional hypervisors or >> on Docker, ZeroVM or other types >> > of containers. >> > >> > However what these articles don't take >> into account is that Xen can >> > already handle both kind of workloads >> extremely well: Xen can handle >> > fat >> > old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new >> style lightweight micro-VMs, >> > with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) >> inside a PV guest. >> > >> > If I manage to carve the time to do it >> I might be able to write a blog >> > post about it. >> > >> > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: >> > See: >> > >> > * >> > >> http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/ >> > * On the other hand there is this >> article: >> > >> http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/ >> > (both by Simon Crosby) >> > >> > Generally for the security >> discussion, which is related, >> > the following >> > articles may be relevant: >> > * >> > >> http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/ >> > * >> > http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security >> > The following two may also be >> useful (and contain quite a >> > few useful links) >> > despite also being partly a >> product pitch: >> > * >> > >> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/ >> > * >> > >> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protect >> > ion/ >> > >> > Lars >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Publicity mailing list >> > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> >> > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Publicity mailing list >> > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> >> > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Publicity mailing list >> > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> >> > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Publicity mailing list >> > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> >> > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Publicity mailing list >> > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> >> > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Sarah Conway >> > PR Manager >> > The Linux Foundation >> > sconway@linuxfoundation.org >> > (978) 578-5300 Cell >> > Skype: sarah.k.conway >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sarah Conway >> PR Manager >> The Linux Foundation >> sconway@linuxfoundation.org >> (978) 578-5300 Cell >> Skype: sarah.k.conway > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --------------090607070200010302080507 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Actually, this set of slides, *from a docker employee* (it looks like), is interesting:

http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security

Basically, he admits that a Linux container that is useful will still be vulnerable; and he says that "the road to bulletproof containers" is to use lxc *only* for a delivery mechanism, and to have either one container per machine, or one container per VM.

 -George

On 04/22/2014 09:26 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
Another one
http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-ubuntu-and-docker-container-virtualization-goes-mainstream-7000028610/
and x-reffed http://robhirschfeld.com/2014/04/18/docker-real-or-hype/
Lars

On 08/04/2014 19:45, Sarah Conway wrote:

Here's yet another article that just came out on the topic from Steven Vaughan Nichols, who did meet with Mark H. and Richard Phelan at Collab. Don't think this topic came up though. 



On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
Yes, there are: miniOS is similar to OSv but less complete and only
supports PV guests.
The miniOS approach allows one POSIX application to run within one PV
guest virtual machine with minimal operating system overhead. At the
same time PV (and the newer PVH) guests are low overhead compared to HVM
guests as they don't provide any emulated interfaces.
Overall miniOS (or OSv) on a PV guest is a great fit for
micro-virtualization.

On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Sarah Conway wrote:
> I like Stefano's point about Xen building bridges here -- seems like a new twist on the VM vs. container debate. The
> fact that Xen is evolving with the times and it's not a binary choice might play reasonably well.  
> Are there are any major technical differences between the miniOS approach and containers? 
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> wrote:
>       I think it's a great post
>       Lars
>
>       On 08/04/2014 14:54, Russ Pavlicek wrote:
>             I've got the following blog post queued for open.citrix.com later
>             today (it was my turn and this topic seemed timely).
>
>             I am leaving for the airport in a couple hours, so if anyone has
>             concerns, please let me know in the next hour or so if you can.
>             Otherwise, I may have to edit after it is autopublished later tonight.
>
>             It isn't a Xen Project piece per se, but I wanted to highlight the
>             MirageOS/OSv/etc. solution to highly dense VM app farms.
>
>             ---
>
>             Are Containers the Right Answer to the Wrong Question?
>
>             Next-Gen, High Density App Servers Don't Require Scrapping Your Hypervisor
>
>             Recently, I sat in a conference session extolling the seemingly
>             endless virtues of Linux Containers.  I heard claims that hypervisors
>             were old hat: ancient bloated engines which rely on inefficient
>             replication of a large operating system stack in order to serve up
>             applications.  The speaker painted a picture of a future where
>             hundreds of applications are virtualized on each piece of hardware.
>             "What is really needed," glowed the speaker, "is a lightweight,
>             efficient means of serving up application: containers."
>
>             Containers are cool, but not a panacea
>
>             Containers share the same kernel as the host, so they are not burdened
>             with the extra memory and CPU cycles it costs to replicate a full
>             operating system stack in a hypervisor scenario.  Compared to
>             hypervisor-generated virtual machines, containers can be fast and
>             lean.  But they are also limited.
>
>             Since Linux containers share the same kernel as the host, it is
>             impossible to run Windows.  Or FreeBSD. Or NetBSD.   Or another
>             version of the Linux kernel.  Or another Linux distribution which
>             requires a different kernel.  All of those scenarios are best handled
>             by a real hypervisor.  And the security aspect of hypervisors is huge,
>             worthy of a separate blog entry of its own.  Still, if you need an
>             environment within your organization where many workloads can leverage
>             a single kernel environment, containers can be a viable solution.
>
>             However, some of the most vocal container advocates insist that these
>             problems relating to containers are really application problems in
>             disguise.  Issues about kernel support and security are the results of
>             improper application design, they claim.  When we raise the bar on
>             applications so that they are based solely on access to application
>             servers, then the objections to containers will melt away -- and so
>             will hypervisors, for the most part.  Or that's what some of these
>             advocates claim, at least.
>
>             The death of the hypervisor is greatly exaggerated
>
>             But is there another scenario which could answer the call for highly
>             responsive and lightweight virtual instances which does not use the
>             container solution?  Maybe one that can actually leverage the
>             flexibility and security which is part and parcel with most
>             hypervisors?
>
>             Yes, in fact, there is.  And the key is in the very
>             application-centric future which some container advocates believe will
>             cause the hypervisor to become obsolete.
>
>             Behold the birth of the Cloud Operating System
>
>             Instead of deriding hypervisors for the "bloat" of replicating a full
>             operating system, we can replicate ultra-light application-centric
>             operating systems which are meant to live in a VM.  A number of these
>             lean, mean virtual operating systems have arisen recently, including
>             the Xen Project team's MirageOS and Cloudius Systems' OSv.  These
>             lightweight operating systems, sometimes called "cloud operating
>             systems", lack the expensive drivers needed to talk to hardware --
>             because they aren't meant to run on hardware.  And they lack
>             multiprocess capabilities because they are not intended to be general
>             timesharing systems, but dedicated application server systems.  As a
>             result, they are very small, very lightweight, and can start up
>             amazingly quickly in a VM environment.  They enable the vision of
>             light and fast application servers, while preserving the superior
>             security and flexibility of true hypervisors.
>
>             Don't throw the hypervisor baby out with the dirty application bath water
>
>             So if you are intrigued by the vision of masses of small, efficient
>             application VMs packed into a minimum of number of servers, but
>             cringing at the notion of totally retooling your virtualization
>             infrastructure and rethinking your entire security mindset, don't
>             fret.  That vision is achievable while maintaining the flexibility and
>             security that mature hypervisors deliver.  Focus on a streamlined
>             application stack, and the vision of dense, efficient application VMs
>             is achievable -- regardless of whether you are using hypervisors,
>             containers, or both.
>
>
>             On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini
>             <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
>                   Also this tells us that whatever tecnology we choose to have upstream
>                   QEMU stubdoms, we should make sure it is easy to use for other POSIX
>                   applications too, so that we can advertise it as a generic solution for
>                   Xen micro-VMs and position it as a secure alternative to containers.
>
>                   On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>                         Given that most people only use one VM for one task, the rise of
>                         "micro-VMs" makes sense, whether they are based on OSv (miniOS or rump
>                         kernels) on traditional hypervisors or on Docker, ZeroVM or other types
>                         of containers.
>
>                         However what these articles don't take into account is that Xen can
>                         already handle both kind of workloads extremely well: Xen can handle
>                         fat
>                         old-style VMs, with HVM guests, and new style lightweight micro-VMs,
>                         with miniOS (or rump kernels or OSv) inside a PV guest.
>
>                         If I manage to carve the time to do it I might be able to write a blog
>                         post about it.
>
>                         On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Lars Kurth wrote:
>                               See:
>
>                               *
>                               http://blogs.bromium.com/2014/04/07/vms-the-new-infrastructure-anachronism/
>                               * On the other hand there is this article:
>                               http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-are-the-pillars-of-the-cloud-not-the-achilles-heel-7000027931/
>                               (both by Simon Crosby)
>
>                               Generally for the security discussion, which is related,
>                               the following
>                               articles may be relevant:
>                               *
>                               http://www.zdnet.com/hypervisors-the-clouds-potential-security-achilles-heel-7000027846/
>                               *
>                               http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/03/computer-security
>                               The following two may also be useful (and contain quite a
>                               few useful links)
>                               despite also being partly a product pitch:
>                               *
>                               http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/03/27/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect/
>                               *
> http://blogs.bromium.com/2013/04/24/micro-virtualization-for-the-security-architect-2-of-2-isolation-%E2%89%A0-protect
>                               ion/
>
>                               Lars
>
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--------------090607070200010302080507-- --===============7020539827313307407== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============7020539827313307407==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 29 14:45:57 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:45:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf9IC-0004up-QD; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:45:56 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf9IB-0004ui-6F for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:45:55 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:35931] by server-10.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 73/27-04546-22BBF535; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:45:54 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1398782744!1634051!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNjM5NDIgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 2993 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2014 14:45:45 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Apr 2014 14:45:45 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,951,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="125890241" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2014 14:45:43 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:45:43 -0400 Message-ID: <1398782741.16933.5.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Ian Campbell Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:45:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Lars Kurth , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1957402397897908963==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============1957402397897908963== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-YxbaGBsYRT9HKmPNRWB9" --=-YxbaGBsYRT9HKmPNRWB9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello publicity folks, On gio, 2014-04-17 at 11:28 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > > My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009;= =20 > > oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. >=20 > Has it really been 5 years?=20 >=20 > It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build > time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely > used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a > bad thing to me. >=20 Any other views on this? Should we blog about this or not? If yes, it would be a nice piece for this week... Thanks and Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-YxbaGBsYRT9HKmPNRWB9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNfuxUACgkQk4XaBE3IOsSvnwCfb8vAiAZRAZBIC5Enr3n47iEp JbkAoISJE40qtItnituF0Ih3C+AYyNqa =qxal -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-YxbaGBsYRT9HKmPNRWB9-- --===============1957402397897908963== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============1957402397897908963==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 29 14:45:57 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:45:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf9IC-0004up-QD; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:45:56 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf9IB-0004ui-6F for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:45:55 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:35931] by server-10.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 73/27-04546-22BBF535; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:45:54 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1398782744!1634051!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNjM5NDIgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 2993 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2014 14:45:45 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Apr 2014 14:45:45 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,951,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="125890241" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2014 14:45:43 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:45:43 -0400 Message-ID: <1398782741.16933.5.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Ian Campbell Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:45:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Lars Kurth , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1957402397897908963==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============1957402397897908963== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-YxbaGBsYRT9HKmPNRWB9" --=-YxbaGBsYRT9HKmPNRWB9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello publicity folks, On gio, 2014-04-17 at 11:28 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > > My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009;= =20 > > oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. >=20 > Has it really been 5 years?=20 >=20 > It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build > time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely > used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a > bad thing to me. >=20 Any other views on this? Should we blog about this or not? If yes, it would be a nice piece for this week... Thanks and Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-YxbaGBsYRT9HKmPNRWB9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNfuxUACgkQk4XaBE3IOsSvnwCfb8vAiAZRAZBIC5Enr3n47iEp JbkAoISJE40qtItnituF0Ih3C+AYyNqa =qxal -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-YxbaGBsYRT9HKmPNRWB9-- --===============1957402397897908963== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============1957402397897908963==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 29 16:54:52 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:54:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfBIy-0002vy-2u; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:54:52 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfBIw-0002vs-NM for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:54:50 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:48032] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 64/45-09853-A59DF535; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:54:50 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1398790489!1824310!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.178] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 30447 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2014 16:54:49 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f178.google.com) (209.85.212.178) by server-14.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Apr 2014 16:54:49 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id bs8so805356wib.5 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 09:54:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=USbTvQI88PrEaW/JCfhSZl/l54iu+BSVlNw52TuRcyA=; b=VRBCGu+xTgTydQNNqRpMUU4DdZNzZMNdJXPdW1sXJZt73TNbvN2RAA9UOX1LD6FTfw xvjV3wd44hMEzsAhc+R31GHTsW6ROgjjPibZH61l79It5b9lKDSiahhlKUQPWihNmyqq u5pZkqoqVgFG4tbRB3QjMO8lu2zTCauE0e534y+ay9CvluzxbldOUTkOKvkXey5AgGd4 llduGyGJvYIw/gBz9dIyX+YHNltyp5DFtQB8GkvpbGA3z+zwESZtpsUsPlDgbamuawK2 wE4EhTjFYrLWZ3fdJF1k8QTiTUXXytjUzlio8iKRAALokuiULgYLtqZseITcakLKW9dV Dx5w== X-Received: by 10.180.184.167 with SMTP id ev7mr21498007wic.55.1398790489137; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 09:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gz1sm6119195wib.14.2014.04.29.09.54.47 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Apr 2014 09:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <535FD956.7000600@xen.org> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:54:46 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <1398782741.16933.5.camel@Solace> In-Reply-To: <1398782741.16933.5.camel@Solace> Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 29/04/2014 15:45, Dario Faggioli wrote: > Hello publicity folks, > > On gio, 2014-04-17 at 11:28 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: >> On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >>> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; >>> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. >> Has it really been 5 years? >> >> It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build >> time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely >> used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a >> bad thing to me. >> > Any other views on this? Should we blog about this or not? If yes, it > would be a nice piece for this week... I don't have an issue. Maybe set a little bit of context at the beginning pointing to Luis blog, and maybe a little bit of history Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 29 16:54:52 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:54:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfBIy-0002vy-2u; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:54:52 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfBIw-0002vs-NM for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:54:50 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:48032] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 64/45-09853-A59DF535; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:54:50 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1398790489!1824310!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.178] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 30447 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2014 16:54:49 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f178.google.com) (209.85.212.178) by server-14.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Apr 2014 16:54:49 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id bs8so805356wib.5 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 09:54:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=USbTvQI88PrEaW/JCfhSZl/l54iu+BSVlNw52TuRcyA=; b=VRBCGu+xTgTydQNNqRpMUU4DdZNzZMNdJXPdW1sXJZt73TNbvN2RAA9UOX1LD6FTfw xvjV3wd44hMEzsAhc+R31GHTsW6ROgjjPibZH61l79It5b9lKDSiahhlKUQPWihNmyqq u5pZkqoqVgFG4tbRB3QjMO8lu2zTCauE0e534y+ay9CvluzxbldOUTkOKvkXey5AgGd4 llduGyGJvYIw/gBz9dIyX+YHNltyp5DFtQB8GkvpbGA3z+zwESZtpsUsPlDgbamuawK2 wE4EhTjFYrLWZ3fdJF1k8QTiTUXXytjUzlio8iKRAALokuiULgYLtqZseITcakLKW9dV Dx5w== X-Received: by 10.180.184.167 with SMTP id ev7mr21498007wic.55.1398790489137; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 09:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gz1sm6119195wib.14.2014.04.29.09.54.47 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Apr 2014 09:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <535FD956.7000600@xen.org> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:54:46 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <1398782741.16933.5.camel@Solace> In-Reply-To: <1398782741.16933.5.camel@Solace> Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 29/04/2014 15:45, Dario Faggioli wrote: > Hello publicity folks, > > On gio, 2014-04-17 at 11:28 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: >> On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >>> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; >>> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. >> Has it really been 5 years? >> >> It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build >> time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely >> used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a >> bad thing to me. >> > Any other views on this? Should we blog about this or not? If yes, it > would be a nice piece for this week... I don't have an issue. Maybe set a little bit of context at the beginning pointing to Luis blog, and maybe a little bit of history Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 29 17:09:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:09:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfBX6-0003TH-Ib; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:09:28 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfBX4-0003TC-Qn for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:09:27 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:33447] by server-6.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id E0/51-19576-6CCDF535; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:09:26 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1398791363!1340179!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.176] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.4 required=7.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5343 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2014 17:09:23 -0000 Received: from mail-we0-f176.google.com (HELO mail-we0-f176.google.com) (74.125.82.176) by server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Apr 2014 17:09:23 -0000 Received: by mail-we0-f176.google.com with SMTP id x48so503618wes.7 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:09:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nFTVNELJ2pP3a+QdQ/O0nEiPDPhZxJ+JjBe+QUzorg8=; b=J9jXlte43VeaCFFPkMlDx0PcFA+1gdpCDFCIip21bxn6svrGTDcIYeAKM81Gy3cHSq aE+vrBR26YFpwn94UrfyNVjCrPCdfwiINm7a1ef6Y3acaNeCIgDw+VwYshnUfQXk9f8v iPMPyrUPjy8QfJPp2b2ltYuq0fXOtDJbGtX1A= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nFTVNELJ2pP3a+QdQ/O0nEiPDPhZxJ+JjBe+QUzorg8=; b=cJqB/4u2gAaGJ8Um2DD7GuhBDCgtcbpArmO9fdUJ8Sa/PyojCB7rqu787UaogXeXqh BPlS2EoAm7MBlxZwTyBCu1EM9e9FgoGggCPXRZkKImbcN1gNtn1koSDvNcuGLhneDPWT RNfVVN/Q4JrBnvvRcYrkm7usVjsWVIK53D0jlWhIGjirTgn1gppWlq5sgpmVQYT1vYnM kBOmDkCeOxJuHP930+XEAjPg+dSh/kbKfKLg3NOWvU7PzggBZ0twd4OwZLHtBNcbPboq nZ6jIcYI8QFQ6lTUAtW+vM1xde2vAtFjcq8tzrqKGMmQdWVY0ef6v+jkoHK32k0MNmuj vXAA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnw96FB36Sgir4GCgn9LeJBTG6Ld191u+nG+I7jp5YLpLqVkIyY7nD8jpkh/9j0BSwPbilb MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.82.133 with SMTP id i5mr21651555wiy.50.1398791363536; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.77.98 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:09:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <535FD956.7000600@xen.org> References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <1398782741.16933.5.camel@Solace> <535FD956.7000600@xen.org> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 13:09:23 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: Lars Kurth Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1737550362098231290==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============1737550362098231290== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428c9856c37504f8317e3d --f46d04428c9856c37504f8317e3d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Maybe even hint at upcoming updates too. Thanks, On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 29/04/2014 15:45, Dario Faggioli wrote: > >> Hello publicity folks, >> >> On gio, 2014-04-17 at 11:28 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >>> >>>> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; >>>> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. >>>> >>> Has it really been 5 years? >>> >>> It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build >>> time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely >>> used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a >>> bad thing to me. >>> >>> Any other views on this? Should we blog about this or not? If yes, it >> would be a nice piece for this week... >> > I don't have an issue. Maybe set a little bit of context at the beginning > pointing to Luis blog, and maybe a little bit of history > Lars > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --f46d04428c9856c37504f8317e3d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Maybe even hint at upcoming updates too.

Thanks,


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Lars Kurth <= lars.kurth@xen.org<= /a>> wrote:
On 29/04/2014 15:45, Dario F= aggioli wrote:
Hello publicity folks,

On gio, 2014-04-17 at 11:28 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
My main question is, why? =C2=A0The paper in question was published in 2009= ;
oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now.
Has it really been 5 years?

It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build
time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as wide= ly
used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a=
bad thing to me.

Any other views on this? Should we blog about this or not? If yes, it
would be a nice piece for this week...
I don't have an issue. Maybe set a little bit of context at the beginni= ng pointing to Luis blog, and maybe a little bit of history
Lars



_______________________________________________
Publicity mailing list
Publici= ty@lists.xenproject.org
http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin= fo/publicity



--
=
Sarah Conway
PR Manager
The L= inux Foundation
sconway@linuxfoundation.org
(978) 578-5300 =C2=A0Cell
Skype: =C2=A0sarah.k.conway
<= /div>
--f46d04428c9856c37504f8317e3d-- --===============1737550362098231290== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============1737550362098231290==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 29 17:09:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:09:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfBX6-0003TH-Ib; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:09:28 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfBX4-0003TC-Qn for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:09:27 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:33447] by server-6.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id E0/51-19576-6CCDF535; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:09:26 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1398791363!1340179!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.176] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.4 required=7.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5343 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2014 17:09:23 -0000 Received: from mail-we0-f176.google.com (HELO mail-we0-f176.google.com) (74.125.82.176) by server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Apr 2014 17:09:23 -0000 Received: by mail-we0-f176.google.com with SMTP id x48so503618wes.7 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:09:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nFTVNELJ2pP3a+QdQ/O0nEiPDPhZxJ+JjBe+QUzorg8=; b=J9jXlte43VeaCFFPkMlDx0PcFA+1gdpCDFCIip21bxn6svrGTDcIYeAKM81Gy3cHSq aE+vrBR26YFpwn94UrfyNVjCrPCdfwiINm7a1ef6Y3acaNeCIgDw+VwYshnUfQXk9f8v iPMPyrUPjy8QfJPp2b2ltYuq0fXOtDJbGtX1A= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nFTVNELJ2pP3a+QdQ/O0nEiPDPhZxJ+JjBe+QUzorg8=; b=cJqB/4u2gAaGJ8Um2DD7GuhBDCgtcbpArmO9fdUJ8Sa/PyojCB7rqu787UaogXeXqh BPlS2EoAm7MBlxZwTyBCu1EM9e9FgoGggCPXRZkKImbcN1gNtn1koSDvNcuGLhneDPWT RNfVVN/Q4JrBnvvRcYrkm7usVjsWVIK53D0jlWhIGjirTgn1gppWlq5sgpmVQYT1vYnM kBOmDkCeOxJuHP930+XEAjPg+dSh/kbKfKLg3NOWvU7PzggBZ0twd4OwZLHtBNcbPboq nZ6jIcYI8QFQ6lTUAtW+vM1xde2vAtFjcq8tzrqKGMmQdWVY0ef6v+jkoHK32k0MNmuj vXAA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnw96FB36Sgir4GCgn9LeJBTG6Ld191u+nG+I7jp5YLpLqVkIyY7nD8jpkh/9j0BSwPbilb MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.82.133 with SMTP id i5mr21651555wiy.50.1398791363536; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.77.98 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:09:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <535FD956.7000600@xen.org> References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <1398782741.16933.5.camel@Solace> <535FD956.7000600@xen.org> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 13:09:23 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: Lars Kurth Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1737550362098231290==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============1737550362098231290== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428c9856c37504f8317e3d --f46d04428c9856c37504f8317e3d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Maybe even hint at upcoming updates too. Thanks, On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 29/04/2014 15:45, Dario Faggioli wrote: > >> Hello publicity folks, >> >> On gio, 2014-04-17 at 11:28 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >>> >>>> My main question is, why? The paper in question was published in 2009; >>>> oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now. >>>> >>> Has it really been 5 years? >>> >>> It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build >>> time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as widely >>> used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a >>> bad thing to me. >>> >>> Any other views on this? Should we blog about this or not? If yes, it >> would be a nice piece for this week... >> > I don't have an issue. Maybe set a little bit of context at the beginning > pointing to Luis blog, and maybe a little bit of history > Lars > > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --f46d04428c9856c37504f8317e3d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Maybe even hint at upcoming updates too.

Thanks,


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Lars Kurth <= lars.kurth@xen.org<= /a>> wrote:
On 29/04/2014 15:45, Dario F= aggioli wrote:
Hello publicity folks,

On gio, 2014-04-17 at 11:28 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
My main question is, why? =C2=A0The paper in question was published in 2009= ;
oxenstored has been the default for 5 years now.
Has it really been 5 years?

It's the default iff you have the ocaml compiler installed at build
time, which I wager many people don't, so it's probably not as wide= ly
used as you might expect. Raising the profile of it doesn't seem like a=
bad thing to me.

Any other views on this? Should we blog about this or not? If yes, it
would be a nice piece for this week...
I don't have an issue. Maybe set a little bit of context at the beginni= ng pointing to Luis blog, and maybe a little bit of history
Lars



_______________________________________________
Publicity mailing list
Publici= ty@lists.xenproject.org
http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin= fo/publicity



--
=
Sarah Conway
PR Manager
The L= inux Foundation
sconway@linuxfoundation.org
(978) 578-5300 =C2=A0Cell
Skype: =C2=A0sarah.k.conway
<= /div>
--f46d04428c9856c37504f8317e3d-- --===============1737550362098231290== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============1737550362098231290==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 29 18:42:47 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:42:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfCzO-00067Z-4d; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:42:46 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfCzM-00067U-RZ for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:42:45 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:63078] by server-3.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id B5/CB-22179-4A2FF535; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:42:44 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1398796952!1693709!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNjg2NDkgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26377 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2014 18:42:34 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Apr 2014 18:42:34 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,952,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="126008288" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2014 18:42:31 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:42:31 -0400 Message-ID: <1398796949.16933.30.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Sarah Conway Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 20:42:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <1398782741.16933.5.camel@Solace> <535FD956.7000600@xen.org> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4732404212523190224==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============4732404212523190224== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-akLb5qoVEKuJxVX9fOIY" --=-akLb5qoVEKuJxVX9fOIY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On mar, 2014-04-29 at 13:09 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: > Maybe even hint at upcoming updates too. >=20 I certainly can do both. However, for this week, Russ has something to push out, so I'll defer this once more. Thanks to both for providing your view. Regards, Dario >=20 > Thanks, >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Lars Kurth > wrote: > On 29/04/2014 15:45, Dario Faggioli wrote: > Hello publicity folks, > =20 > On gio, 2014-04-17 at 11:28 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George > Dunlap wrote: > My main question is, why? The paper > in question was published in 2009; > oxenstored has been the default for 5 > years now. > Has it really been 5 years? > =20 > It's the default iff you have the ocaml > compiler installed at build > time, which I wager many people don't, so it's > probably not as widely > used as you might expect. Raising the profile > of it doesn't seem like a > bad thing to me. > =20 > Any other views on this? Should we blog about this or > not? If yes, it > would be a nice piece for this week... > I don't have an issue. Maybe set a little bit of context at > the beginning pointing to Luis blog, and maybe a little bit of > history > Lars > =20 > =20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Sarah Conway >=20 > PR Manager > The Linux Foundation > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > (978) 578-5300 Cell > Skype: sarah.k.conway > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-akLb5qoVEKuJxVX9fOIY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNf8pYACgkQk4XaBE3IOsRL/wCfWLPUgZvct7OQs1hVLCk7VUuM 24wAn3IzZyC8WiDJvSS2qnq0Yy5bQ2uN =fXdg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-akLb5qoVEKuJxVX9fOIY-- --===============4732404212523190224== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============4732404212523190224==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 29 18:42:47 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:42:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfCzO-00067Z-4d; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:42:46 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfCzM-00067U-RZ for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:42:45 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:63078] by server-3.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id B5/CB-22179-4A2FF535; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:42:44 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1398796952!1693709!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNjg2NDkgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26377 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2014 18:42:34 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Apr 2014 18:42:34 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,952,1389744000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="126008288" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2014 18:42:31 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:42:31 -0400 Message-ID: <1398796949.16933.30.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Sarah Conway Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 20:42:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <1398782741.16933.5.camel@Solace> <535FD956.7000600@xen.org> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4732404212523190224==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============4732404212523190224== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-akLb5qoVEKuJxVX9fOIY" --=-akLb5qoVEKuJxVX9fOIY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On mar, 2014-04-29 at 13:09 -0400, Sarah Conway wrote: > Maybe even hint at upcoming updates too. >=20 I certainly can do both. However, for this week, Russ has something to push out, so I'll defer this once more. Thanks to both for providing your view. Regards, Dario >=20 > Thanks, >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Lars Kurth > wrote: > On 29/04/2014 15:45, Dario Faggioli wrote: > Hello publicity folks, > =20 > On gio, 2014-04-17 at 11:28 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:20 +0100, George > Dunlap wrote: > My main question is, why? The paper > in question was published in 2009; > oxenstored has been the default for 5 > years now. > Has it really been 5 years? > =20 > It's the default iff you have the ocaml > compiler installed at build > time, which I wager many people don't, so it's > probably not as widely > used as you might expect. Raising the profile > of it doesn't seem like a > bad thing to me. > =20 > Any other views on this? Should we blog about this or > not? If yes, it > would be a nice piece for this week... > I don't have an issue. Maybe set a little bit of context at > the beginning pointing to Luis blog, and maybe a little bit of > history > Lars > =20 > =20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Sarah Conway >=20 > PR Manager > The Linux Foundation > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > (978) 578-5300 Cell > Skype: sarah.k.conway > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-akLb5qoVEKuJxVX9fOIY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlNf8pYACgkQk4XaBE3IOsRL/wCfWLPUgZvct7OQs1hVLCk7VUuM 24wAn3IzZyC8WiDJvSS2qnq0Yy5bQ2uN =fXdg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-akLb5qoVEKuJxVX9fOIY-- --===============4732404212523190224== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============4732404212523190224==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 29 21:32:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 21:32:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfFdx-0001vG-G1; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 21:32:49 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfFdv-0001vB-PH for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 21:32:48 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:3689] by server-1.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 74/54-10259-F7A10635; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 21:32:47 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mcgrof@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1398807165!1363731!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.45] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 15207 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2014 21:32:46 -0000 Received: from mail-la0-f45.google.com (HELO mail-la0-f45.google.com) (209.85.215.45) by server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Apr 2014 21:32:46 -0000 Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id pv20so608027lab.4 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:32:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=xzXt02j7Lvk8kNza1vKRlHLv9Lfh7MmCcbksrldsBgU=; b=JP8tA+Z/Icibm6DXblOYDqHoubplW6R19HFIteBkgQSpMzhedB05qdzNlr5bC+/V9k xkRNDUv80bP8ge6vgOlXt12QyTGHADVCc8FARJnig2dPKz4os5QChq4r3WQ+5UkoteM8 Dd8QB4Ldv9G+11PKeygCYYoyZhyKlyCyUZudiC0MISRh6N3wHOCkmCELTjXdRM95/F26 hlTSauhnP3qb9LPYNHN/HBUU/qGhiHOJ3+/Y2FwEJ+mpJwWXs3+OpXdZXXndJhyuPduz BfbOk9IVOnMpwCGWAFifJDSmEIs6j5b/f+TChTyh5lVg0NBsAkW7iH5HHgGwLbZGXsJF Dsog== X-Received: by 10.113.3.167 with SMTP id bx7mr123587lbd.64.1398807165428; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:32:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.215.74 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:32:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <1398782741.16933.5.camel@Solace> <535FD956.7000600@xen.org> From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:32:25 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NIKiTmG6GSQO75kgLR0wYn4pX9Y Message-ID: To: Sarah Conway Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Sarah Conway wrote: > Maybe even hint at upcoming updates too. Is someone that is familiar with the technical details of the updates going to be at the xen summit in Chicago by any chance? Luis _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 29 21:32:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 21:32:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfFdx-0001vG-G1; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 21:32:49 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfFdv-0001vB-PH for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 21:32:48 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:3689] by server-1.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 74/54-10259-F7A10635; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 21:32:47 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mcgrof@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1398807165!1363731!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.45] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 15207 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2014 21:32:46 -0000 Received: from mail-la0-f45.google.com (HELO mail-la0-f45.google.com) (209.85.215.45) by server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Apr 2014 21:32:46 -0000 Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id pv20so608027lab.4 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:32:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=xzXt02j7Lvk8kNza1vKRlHLv9Lfh7MmCcbksrldsBgU=; b=JP8tA+Z/Icibm6DXblOYDqHoubplW6R19HFIteBkgQSpMzhedB05qdzNlr5bC+/V9k xkRNDUv80bP8ge6vgOlXt12QyTGHADVCc8FARJnig2dPKz4os5QChq4r3WQ+5UkoteM8 Dd8QB4Ldv9G+11PKeygCYYoyZhyKlyCyUZudiC0MISRh6N3wHOCkmCELTjXdRM95/F26 hlTSauhnP3qb9LPYNHN/HBUU/qGhiHOJ3+/Y2FwEJ+mpJwWXs3+OpXdZXXndJhyuPduz BfbOk9IVOnMpwCGWAFifJDSmEIs6j5b/f+TChTyh5lVg0NBsAkW7iH5HHgGwLbZGXsJF Dsog== X-Received: by 10.113.3.167 with SMTP id bx7mr123587lbd.64.1398807165428; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:32:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.215.74 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:32:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA264D19F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <534FAAEF.3080708@eu.citrix.com> <1397730499.24638.290.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <1398782741.16933.5.camel@Solace> <535FD956.7000600@xen.org> From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:32:25 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NIKiTmG6GSQO75kgLR0wYn4pX9Y Message-ID: To: Sarah Conway Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Reblogging Luis' piece on oxenstored X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Sarah Conway wrote: > Maybe even hint at upcoming updates too. Is someone that is familiar with the technical details of the updates going to be at the xen summit in Chicago by any chance? Luis _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 30 00:13:59 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:13:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfI9v-0001SM-9Z; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:13:59 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfI9t-0001SE-EA for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:13:57 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:15228] by server-10.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id D5/02-04546-44040635; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:13:56 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1398816834!1717568!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16090 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2014 00:13:55 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Apr 2014 00:13:55 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,954,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="125121319" Received: from sjcpex01cl02.citrite.net ([10.216.14.144]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 30 Apr 2014 00:13:55 +0000 Received: from SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.3.253]) by SJCPEX01CL02.citrite.net ([10.216.14.144]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:13:53 -0700 From: Russell Pavlicek To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Thread-Topic: Blog for review: Xen4CentOS Thread-Index: Ac9kCI3x+2mp9e4gRByilbxtQtgh0g== Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:13:51 +0000 Message-ID: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.13.112.14] MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: #XenOrg Subject: [Publicity] Blog for review: Xen4CentOS X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1859009392449898799==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============1859009392449898799== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6SJCPEX01CL03citri_" --_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6SJCPEX01CL03citri_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a new blog post up for review about Xen4CentOS: http://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D9204&preview=3Dtrue Feedback appreciated. Russ Pavlicek Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems Home Office: +1-301-829-5327 Mobile: +1-240-397-0199 UK VoIP: +44 1223 852 894 --_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6SJCPEX01CL03citri_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a new blog post up for review about Xen4CentOS:

http://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D9204&preview=3Dtrue

Feedback appreciated.

Russ Pavlicek
Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems
Home Office: +1-301-829-5327
Mobile: +1-240-397-0199
UK VoIP: +44 1223 852 894
--_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6SJCPEX01CL03citri_-- --===============1859009392449898799== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============1859009392449898799==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 30 00:13:59 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:13:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfI9v-0001SM-9Z; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:13:59 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfI9t-0001SE-EA for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:13:57 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:15228] by server-10.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id D5/02-04546-44040635; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:13:56 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1398816834!1717568!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16090 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2014 00:13:55 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Apr 2014 00:13:55 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,954,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="125121319" Received: from sjcpex01cl02.citrite.net ([10.216.14.144]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 30 Apr 2014 00:13:55 +0000 Received: from SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.3.253]) by SJCPEX01CL02.citrite.net ([10.216.14.144]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:13:53 -0700 From: Russell Pavlicek To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Thread-Topic: Blog for review: Xen4CentOS Thread-Index: Ac9kCI3x+2mp9e4gRByilbxtQtgh0g== Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:13:51 +0000 Message-ID: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.13.112.14] MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: #XenOrg Subject: [Publicity] Blog for review: Xen4CentOS X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1859009392449898799==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============1859009392449898799== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6SJCPEX01CL03citri_" --_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6SJCPEX01CL03citri_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a new blog post up for review about Xen4CentOS: http://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D9204&preview=3Dtrue Feedback appreciated. Russ Pavlicek Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems Home Office: +1-301-829-5327 Mobile: +1-240-397-0199 UK VoIP: +44 1223 852 894 --_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6SJCPEX01CL03citri_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a new blog post up for review about Xen4CentOS:

http://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D9204&preview=3Dtrue

Feedback appreciated.

Russ Pavlicek
Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems
Home Office: +1-301-829-5327
Mobile: +1-240-397-0199
UK VoIP: +44 1223 852 894
--_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6SJCPEX01CL03citri_-- --===============1859009392449898799== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============1859009392449898799==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 30 08:53:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:53:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfQGU-0003XO-Mh; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:53:18 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfQGT-0003XA-Je for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:53:17 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:16755] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id FB/A4-06539-CF9B0635; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:53:16 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1398847995!1931757!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5995 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2014 08:53:16 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Apr 2014 08:53:16 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,957,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="125228098" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2014 08:53:14 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 04:53:14 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WfQGP-0005V0-Mo; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:53:13 +0100 Message-ID: <5360B9F0.9000101@eu.citrix.com> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:53:04 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russell Pavlicek , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> In-Reply-To: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: #XenOrg Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog for review: Xen4CentOS X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7637783521709146042==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============7637783521709146042== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050700040300050409040907" --------------050700040300050409040907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looks fine overall. Just two comments: * "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn't need to support the Xen Project Hypervisor." This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts. * The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating every other Xen release, &c). -George On 04/30/2014 01:13 AM, Russell Pavlicek wrote: > I have a new blog post up for review about Xen4CentOS: > > http://blog.xenproject.org/?p=9204&preview=true > > Feedback appreciated. > > Russ Pavlicek > Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems > Home Office: +1-301-829-5327 > Mobile: +1-240-397-0199 > UK VoIP: +44 1223 852 894 --------------050700040300050409040907 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Looks fine overall.  Just two comments:

* "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn’t need to support the Xen Project Hypervisor."  This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts.

* The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating  every other Xen release, &c).

 -George

On 04/30/2014 01:13 AM, Russell Pavlicek wrote:
I have a new blog post up for review about Xen4CentOS:

http://blog.xenproject.org/?p=9204&preview=true

Feedback appreciated.

Russ Pavlicek
Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems
Home Office: +1-301-829-5327
Mobile: +1-240-397-0199
UK VoIP: +44 1223 852 894

--------------050700040300050409040907-- --===============7637783521709146042== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============7637783521709146042==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 30 08:53:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:53:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfQGU-0003XO-Mh; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:53:18 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfQGT-0003XA-Je for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:53:17 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:16755] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id FB/A4-06539-CF9B0635; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:53:16 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1398847995!1931757!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5995 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2014 08:53:16 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Apr 2014 08:53:16 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,957,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="125228098" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2014 08:53:14 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 04:53:14 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WfQGP-0005V0-Mo; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:53:13 +0100 Message-ID: <5360B9F0.9000101@eu.citrix.com> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:53:04 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russell Pavlicek , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> In-Reply-To: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: #XenOrg Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog for review: Xen4CentOS X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7637783521709146042==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============7637783521709146042== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050700040300050409040907" --------------050700040300050409040907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looks fine overall. Just two comments: * "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn't need to support the Xen Project Hypervisor." This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts. * The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating every other Xen release, &c). -George On 04/30/2014 01:13 AM, Russell Pavlicek wrote: > I have a new blog post up for review about Xen4CentOS: > > http://blog.xenproject.org/?p=9204&preview=true > > Feedback appreciated. > > Russ Pavlicek > Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems > Home Office: +1-301-829-5327 > Mobile: +1-240-397-0199 > UK VoIP: +44 1223 852 894 --------------050700040300050409040907 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Looks fine overall.  Just two comments:

* "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn’t need to support the Xen Project Hypervisor."  This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts.

* The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating  every other Xen release, &c).

 -George

On 04/30/2014 01:13 AM, Russell Pavlicek wrote:
I have a new blog post up for review about Xen4CentOS:

http://blog.xenproject.org/?p=9204&preview=true

Feedback appreciated.

Russ Pavlicek
Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems
Home Office: +1-301-829-5327
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--------------050700040300050409040907-- --===============7637783521709146042== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============7637783521709146042==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 30 09:42:44 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:42:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfR2J-0005ew-W0; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:42:43 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfR2I-0005el-TI for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:42:43 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:16102] by server-15.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 5F/C9-13757-295C0635; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:42:42 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1398850960!994616!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.170] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_32,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27212 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2014 09:42:41 -0000 Received: from mail-we0-f170.google.com (HELO mail-we0-f170.google.com) (74.125.82.170) by server-16.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Apr 2014 09:42:41 -0000 Received: by mail-we0-f170.google.com with SMTP id w61so1414598wes.29 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 02:42:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=SfkUfEH6JO2U+2t7mTRZudh20vvMZWXOPzEX4nFie5w=; b=g3wTjD+0/50LVspvn15BLNBfxSowa5OfzRFqbclllrVxPI+J/FTBHUvnLbGmzZEkbm 7JrI+b+6S7487ABL/FTue6SfxK+uROEhLZo1knP8ANMXQAykyd2JW4szGrTC2Tf3dyjT pPkPBKFCHD8xFvZDxecPWou5ygW/OKnOxpoYJN31awNLKSKrNipJIUUPB98dCU08NgBH XcITVJoxmiX4yfgrp8VHZT1h39Z6Whteh+r13G76VqJgxwbhOKiLmEVjrhYkgqKCWnlC tsruFxUPKDnkG0WTRJyrumzLdKhLDdHXijnfks99X8Bqa8ZWuWA7dOiHFhYy/d8C2dNj pXdA== X-Received: by 10.194.189.80 with SMTP id gg16mr137289wjc.84.1398850960535; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 02:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gr2sm35345528wjc.12.2014.04.30.02.42.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Apr 2014 02:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5360C58E.5040308@xen.org> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 10:42:38 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <5360B9F0.9000101@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <5360B9F0.9000101@eu.citrix.com> Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog for review: Xen4CentOS X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8765955946495658668==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8765955946495658668== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070606040903010508000207" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070606040903010508000207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote: > Looks fine overall. Just two comments: > > * "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn't need to support the Xen > Project Hypervisor." This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I > think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts. Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue reading. all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support the Xen Project Hypervisor" > * The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does > the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the > Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating every other Xen > release, &c). How about something like this: The Xen4CentOS is not a one-time, cut-and-run hack. It is being transitioned into the newly formed CentOS Virtualization SIG . This CentOS SIG will focus on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for various virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project Hypervisor. The plan is to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and to upgrade the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major release (4.4, 4.6, etc) and to provide matching updates for QEMU, libvirt and other dependent packages. So if you were thinking about trying Xen Project software on CentOS, there is now every reason to give it a try. --------------070606040903010508000207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote:
Looks fine overall.  Just two comments:

* "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn’t need to support the Xen Project Hypervisor."  This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts.
Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue reading. all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support the Xen Project Hypervisor"

* The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating  every other Xen release, &c).
How about something like this:

The Xen4CentOS is not a one-time, cut-and-run hack. It is being transitioned into the newly formed  CentOS Virtualization SIG. This CentOS SIG will focus on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for various virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project Hypervisor. The plan is to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and to upgrade the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major release (4.4, 4.6, etc) and to provide matching updates for QEMU, libvirt and other dependent packages.

So if you were thinking about trying Xen Project software on CentOS, there is now every reason to give it a try.


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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gr2sm35345528wjc.12.2014.04.30.02.42.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Apr 2014 02:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5360C58E.5040308@xen.org> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 10:42:38 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <5360B9F0.9000101@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <5360B9F0.9000101@eu.citrix.com> Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog for review: Xen4CentOS X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8765955946495658668==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8765955946495658668== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070606040903010508000207" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070606040903010508000207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote: > Looks fine overall. Just two comments: > > * "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn't need to support the Xen > Project Hypervisor." This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I > think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts. Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue reading. all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support the Xen Project Hypervisor" > * The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does > the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the > Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating every other Xen > release, &c). How about something like this: The Xen4CentOS is not a one-time, cut-and-run hack. It is being transitioned into the newly formed CentOS Virtualization SIG . This CentOS SIG will focus on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for various virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project Hypervisor. The plan is to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and to upgrade the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major release (4.4, 4.6, etc) and to provide matching updates for QEMU, libvirt and other dependent packages. So if you were thinking about trying Xen Project software on CentOS, there is now every reason to give it a try. --------------070606040903010508000207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote:
Looks fine overall.  Just two comments:

* "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn’t need to support the Xen Project Hypervisor."  This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts.
Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue reading. all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support the Xen Project Hypervisor"

* The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating  every other Xen release, &c).
How about something like this:

The Xen4CentOS is not a one-time, cut-and-run hack. It is being transitioned into the newly formed  CentOS Virtualization SIG. This CentOS SIG will focus on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for various virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project Hypervisor. The plan is to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and to upgrade the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major release (4.4, 4.6, etc) and to provide matching updates for QEMU, libvirt and other dependent packages.

So if you were thinking about trying Xen Project software on CentOS, there is now every reason to give it a try.


--------------070606040903010508000207-- --===============8765955946495658668== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============8765955946495658668==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 30 09:59:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:59:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfRIU-0006EG-77; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:59:26 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfRIO-0006E1-16 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:59:25 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:3929] by server-12.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 7C/B4-27473-779C0635; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:59:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1398851956!1827081!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 20285 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2014 09:59:18 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Apr 2014 09:59:18 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,957,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="126242214" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2014 09:58:45 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 05:58:45 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WfRHp-0006ez-03; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 10:58:45 +0100 Message-ID: <5360C94B.5000209@eu.citrix.com> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 10:58:35 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <5360B9F0.9000101@eu.citrix.com> <5360C58E.5040308@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <5360C58E.5040308@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA2 Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog for review: Xen4CentOS X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9081230342488017665==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============9081230342488017665== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030305080008060604080008" --------------030305080008060604080008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 04/30/2014 10:42 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote: >> Looks fine overall. Just two comments: >> >> * "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn't need to support the Xen >> Project Hypervisor." This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I >> think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts. > Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue > reading. all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support the Xen > Project Hypervisor" > >> * The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does >> the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the >> Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating every other Xen >> release, &c). > How about something like this: > > The Xen4CentOS is not a one-time, cut-and-run hack. It is being > transitioned into the newly formed CentOS Virtualization SIG > . This > CentOS SIG will focus > on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for various > virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project Hypervisor. The > plan > > is to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and to > upgrade the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major release (4.4, > 4.6, etc) and to provide matching updates for QEMU, libvirt and other > dependent packages. > > So if you were thinking about trying Xen Project software on CentOS, > there is now every reason to give it a try. > Sounds good to me. -George --------------030305080008060604080008 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 04/30/2014 10:42 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote:
Looks fine overall.  Just two comments:

* "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn’t need to support the Xen Project Hypervisor."  This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts.
Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue reading. all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support the Xen Project Hypervisor"

* The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating  every other Xen release, &c).
How about something like this:

The Xen4CentOS is not a one-time, cut-and-run hack. It is being transitioned into the newly formed  CentOS Virtualization SIG. This CentOS SIG will focus on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for various virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project Hypervisor. The plan is to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and to upgrade the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major release (4.4, 4.6, etc) and to provide matching updates for QEMU, libvirt and other dependent packages.

So if you were thinking about trying Xen Project software on CentOS, there is now every reason to give it a try.


Sounds good to me.

 -George

--------------030305080008060604080008-- --===============9081230342488017665== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============9081230342488017665==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 30 09:59:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:59:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfRIU-0006EG-77; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:59:26 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WfRIO-0006E1-16 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:59:25 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:3929] by server-12.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 7C/B4-27473-779C0635; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:59:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1398851956!1827081!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 20285 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2014 09:59:18 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Apr 2014 09:59:18 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,957,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="126242214" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2014 09:58:45 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 05:58:45 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WfRHp-0006ez-03; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 10:58:45 +0100 Message-ID: <5360C94B.5000209@eu.citrix.com> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 10:58:35 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <5360B9F0.9000101@eu.citrix.com> <5360C58E.5040308@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <5360C58E.5040308@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA2 Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog for review: Xen4CentOS X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9081230342488017665==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============9081230342488017665== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030305080008060604080008" --------------030305080008060604080008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 04/30/2014 10:42 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote: >> Looks fine overall. Just two comments: >> >> * "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn't need to support the Xen >> Project Hypervisor." This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I >> think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts. > Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue > reading. all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support the Xen > Project Hypervisor" > >> * The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does >> the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the >> Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating every other Xen >> release, &c). > How about something like this: > > The Xen4CentOS is not a one-time, cut-and-run hack. It is being > transitioned into the newly formed CentOS Virtualization SIG > . This > CentOS SIG will focus > on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for various > virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project Hypervisor. The > plan > > is to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and to > upgrade the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major release (4.4, > 4.6, etc) and to provide matching updates for QEMU, libvirt and other > dependent packages. > > So if you were thinking about trying Xen Project software on CentOS, > there is now every reason to give it a try. > Sounds good to me. -George --------------030305080008060604080008 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 04/30/2014 10:42 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote:
Looks fine overall.  Just two comments:

* "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn’t need to support the Xen Project Hypervisor."  This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts.
Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue reading. all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support the Xen Project Hypervisor"

* The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating  every other Xen release, &c).
How about something like this:

The Xen4CentOS is not a one-time, cut-and-run hack. It is being transitioned into the newly formed  CentOS Virtualization SIG. This CentOS SIG will focus on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for various virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project Hypervisor. The plan is to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and to upgrade the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major release (4.4, 4.6, etc) and to provide matching updates for QEMU, libvirt and other dependent packages.

So if you were thinking about trying Xen Project software on CentOS, there is now every reason to give it a try.


Sounds good to me.

 -George

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We just received the initial round of edits from the CentOS Project team on our news release and a Linux.com article. Given this, I would suggest deleting the last paragraph that discusses the Virt SIG until the news is issued. Alternatively, we could publish this blog when our news release is issued, but I understand if the group doesn't want to wait on the news release approvals. Estimated timing for the news release and Linux.com article would be in about a week and a half at a minimum. We still need Xen Project AB review/approval and one more review from CentOS. Thanks, Sarah On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:58 AM, George Dunlap wrote: > On 04/30/2014 10:42 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > > On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote: > > Looks fine overall. Just two comments: > > * "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn=E2=80=99t need to support the= Xen > Project Hypervisor." This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I think > for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts. > > Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue reading. > all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support the Xen Project > Hypervisor" > > * The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does > the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the Virt > SIG, and then mention our plans (updating every other Xen release, &c). > > How about something like this: > > The Xen4CentOS is not a one-time, cut-and-run hack. It is being > transitioned into the newly formed CentOS Virtualization SIG. > This CentOS SIG will focus > on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for various > virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project Hypervisor. The > planis to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and to upgrad= e > the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major release (4.4, 4.6, etc) > and to provide matching updates for QEMU, libvirt and other dependent > packages. > > So if you were thinking about trying Xen Project software on CentOS, ther= e > is now every reason to give it a try. > > > Sounds good to me. > > -George > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > --=20 Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --f46d04138e5f39b33d04f8410fb8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We are planning to announce the Virt SIG soon. We just rec= eived the initial round of edits from the CentOS Project team on our news r= elease and a Linux.com article.=C2=A0

Given this, I woul= d suggest deleting the last paragraph that discusses the Virt SIG until the= news is issued. Alternatively, we could publish this blog when our news re= lease is issued, but I understand if the group doesn't want to wait on = the news release approvals.=C2=A0

Estimated timing for the news release and Linux.com article = would be in about a week and a half at a minimum. We still need Xen Project= AB review/approval and one more review from CentOS.=C2=A0

Thanks,

Sarah=C2=A0

= =C2=A0


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:58 AM, George Dunlap <georg= e.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
On 04/30/2014 10:42 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
=20
On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote:
Looks fine overall.=C2=A0 Just two comments:

* "...the ker= nel which Red Hat decided didn=E2=80=99t need to support the Xen Project Hypervisor."=C2=A0 This may= be interpreted as a bit petulant: I think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts.
Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue reading. all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support th= e Xen Project Hypervisor"

* The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does the Future Hold" sec= tion, I would start with the development of the Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating=C2=A0 every other Xen release, &c= ).
How about something like this:

CentOS Virtualiza= tion SIG. This CentOS SIG will focus on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for various virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project Hypervisor. The plan is to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and to upgrade the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major release (4.4, 4.6, etc) and to provide matching updates for QEMU, libvirt and other dependent packages.


=C2=A0-George


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We just received the initial round of edits from the CentOS Project team on our news release and a Linux.com article. Given this, I would suggest deleting the last paragraph that discusses the Virt SIG until the news is issued. Alternatively, we could publish this blog when our news release is issued, but I understand if the group doesn't want to wait on the news release approvals. Estimated timing for the news release and Linux.com article would be in about a week and a half at a minimum. We still need Xen Project AB review/approval and one more review from CentOS. Thanks, Sarah On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:58 AM, George Dunlap wrote: > On 04/30/2014 10:42 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > > On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote: > > Looks fine overall. Just two comments: > > * "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn=E2=80=99t need to support the= Xen > Project Hypervisor." This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I think > for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts. > > Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue reading. > all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support the Xen Project > Hypervisor" > > * The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does > the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the Virt > SIG, and then mention our plans (updating every other Xen release, &c). > > How about something like this: > > The Xen4CentOS is not a one-time, cut-and-run hack. It is being > transitioned into the newly formed CentOS Virtualization SIG. > This CentOS SIG will focus > on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for various > virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project Hypervisor. The > planis to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and to upgrad= e > the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major release (4.4, 4.6, etc) > and to provide matching updates for QEMU, libvirt and other dependent > packages. > > So if you were thinking about trying Xen Project software on CentOS, ther= e > is now every reason to give it a try. > > > Sounds good to me. > > -George > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > --=20 Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --f46d04138e5f39b33d04f8410fb8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We are planning to announce the Virt SIG soon. We just rec= eived the initial round of edits from the CentOS Project team on our news r= elease and a Linux.com article.=C2=A0

Given this, I woul= d suggest deleting the last paragraph that discusses the Virt SIG until the= news is issued. Alternatively, we could publish this blog when our news re= lease is issued, but I understand if the group doesn't want to wait on = the news release approvals.=C2=A0

Estimated timing for the news release and Linux.com article = would be in about a week and a half at a minimum. We still need Xen Project= AB review/approval and one more review from CentOS.=C2=A0

Thanks,

Sarah=C2=A0

= =C2=A0


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:58 AM, George Dunlap <georg= e.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
On 04/30/2014 10:42 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
=20
On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote:
Looks fine overall.=C2=A0 Just two comments:

* "...the ker= nel which Red Hat decided didn=E2=80=99t need to support the Xen Project Hypervisor."=C2=A0 This may= be interpreted as a bit petulant: I think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts.
Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue reading. all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support th= e Xen Project Hypervisor"

* The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does the Future Hold" sec= tion, I would start with the development of the Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating=C2=A0 every other Xen release, &c= ).
How about something like this:

CentOS Virtualiza= tion SIG. This CentOS SIG will focus on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for various virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project Hypervisor. The plan is to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and to upgrade the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major release (4.4, 4.6, etc) and to provide matching updates for QEMU, libvirt and other dependent packages.


=C2=A0-George


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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d6sm3246025wiz.4.2014.04.30.05.05.42 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Apr 2014 05:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5360E716.7040205@xen.org> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:05:42 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sarah Conway , George Dunlap References: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26707D6@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> <5360B9F0.9000101@eu.citrix.com> <5360C58E.5040308@xen.org> <5360C94B.5000209@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog for review: Xen4CentOS X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5203505141442901362==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5203505141442901362== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020200080708070208050601" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020200080708070208050601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I would say that we should delay this post in that case. It would have more impact after a press release Lars On 30/04/2014 12:43, Sarah Conway wrote: > We are planning to announce the Virt SIG soon. We just received the > initial round of edits from the CentOS Project team on our news > release and a Linux.com article. > > Given this, I would suggest deleting the last paragraph that discusses > the Virt SIG until the news is issued. Alternatively, we could publish > this blog when our news release is issued, but I understand if the > group doesn't want to wait on the news release approvals. > > Estimated timing for the news release and Linux.com article would be > in about a week and a half at a minimum. We still need Xen Project AB > review/approval and one more review from CentOS. > > Thanks, > > Sarah > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:58 AM, George Dunlap > > wrote: > > On 04/30/2014 10:42 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: >> On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote: >>> Looks fine overall. Just two comments: >>> >>> * "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn’t need to support >>> the Xen Project Hypervisor." This may be interpreted as a bit >>> petulant: I think for a technical post, we just want to stick to >>> the facts. >> Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue >> reading. all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support the >> Xen Project Hypervisor" >> >>> * The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What >>> does the Future Hold" section, I would start with the >>> development of the Virt SIG, and then mention our plans >>> (updating every other Xen release, &c). >> How about something like this: >> >> The Xen4CentOS is not a one-time, cut-and-run hack. It is being >> transitioned into the newly formed CentOS Virtualization SIG >> . >> This CentOS SIG >> will focus on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for >> various virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project >> Hypervisor. The plan >> >> is to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and >> to upgrade the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major >> release (4.4, 4.6, etc) and to provide matching updates for QEMU, >> libvirt and other dependent packages. >> >> So if you were thinking about trying Xen Project software on >> CentOS, there is now every reason to give it a try. >> > > Sounds good to me. > > -George > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > > -- > Sarah Conway > PR Manager > The Linux Foundation > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > (978) 578-5300 Cell > Skype: sarah.k.conway --------------020200080708070208050601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I would say that we should delay this post in that case. It would have more impact after a press release
Lars

On 30/04/2014 12:43, Sarah Conway wrote:
We are planning to announce the Virt SIG soon. We just received the initial round of edits from the CentOS Project team on our news release and a Linux.com article. 

Given this, I would suggest deleting the last paragraph that discusses the Virt SIG until the news is issued. Alternatively, we could publish this blog when our news release is issued, but I understand if the group doesn't want to wait on the news release approvals. 

Estimated timing for the news release and Linux.com article would be in about a week and a half at a minimum. We still need Xen Project AB review/approval and one more review from CentOS. 

Thanks,

Sarah 

 


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:58 AM, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
On 04/30/2014 10:42 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote:
Looks fine overall.  Just two comments:

* "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn’t need to support the Xen Project Hypervisor."  This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts.
Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue reading. all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support the Xen Project Hypervisor"

* The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating  every other Xen release, &c).
How about something like this:

The Xen4CentOS is not a one-time, cut-and-run hack. It is being transitioned into the newly formed  CentOS Virtualization SIG. This CentOS SIG will focus on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for various virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project Hypervisor. The plan is to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and to upgrade the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major release (4.4, 4.6, etc) and to provide matching updates for QEMU, libvirt and other dependent packages.

So if you were thinking about trying Xen Project software on CentOS, there is now every reason to give it a try.


Sounds good to me.

 -George


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It would have more impact after a press release Lars On 30/04/2014 12:43, Sarah Conway wrote: > We are planning to announce the Virt SIG soon. We just received the > initial round of edits from the CentOS Project team on our news > release and a Linux.com article. > > Given this, I would suggest deleting the last paragraph that discusses > the Virt SIG until the news is issued. Alternatively, we could publish > this blog when our news release is issued, but I understand if the > group doesn't want to wait on the news release approvals. > > Estimated timing for the news release and Linux.com article would be > in about a week and a half at a minimum. We still need Xen Project AB > review/approval and one more review from CentOS. > > Thanks, > > Sarah > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:58 AM, George Dunlap > > wrote: > > On 04/30/2014 10:42 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: >> On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote: >>> Looks fine overall. Just two comments: >>> >>> * "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn’t need to support >>> the Xen Project Hypervisor." This may be interpreted as a bit >>> petulant: I think for a technical post, we just want to stick to >>> the facts. >> Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue >> reading. all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support the >> Xen Project Hypervisor" >> >>> * The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What >>> does the Future Hold" section, I would start with the >>> development of the Virt SIG, and then mention our plans >>> (updating every other Xen release, &c). >> How about something like this: >> >> The Xen4CentOS is not a one-time, cut-and-run hack. It is being >> transitioned into the newly formed CentOS Virtualization SIG >> . >> This CentOS SIG >> will focus on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for >> various virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project >> Hypervisor. The plan >> >> is to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and >> to upgrade the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major >> release (4.4, 4.6, etc) and to provide matching updates for QEMU, >> libvirt and other dependent packages. >> >> So if you were thinking about trying Xen Project software on >> CentOS, there is now every reason to give it a try. >> > > Sounds good to me. > > -George > > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > > -- > Sarah Conway > PR Manager > The Linux Foundation > sconway@linuxfoundation.org > (978) 578-5300 Cell > Skype: sarah.k.conway --------------020200080708070208050601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I would say that we should delay this post in that case. It would have more impact after a press release
Lars

On 30/04/2014 12:43, Sarah Conway wrote:
We are planning to announce the Virt SIG soon. We just received the initial round of edits from the CentOS Project team on our news release and a Linux.com article. 

Given this, I would suggest deleting the last paragraph that discusses the Virt SIG until the news is issued. Alternatively, we could publish this blog when our news release is issued, but I understand if the group doesn't want to wait on the news release approvals. 

Estimated timing for the news release and Linux.com article would be in about a week and a half at a minimum. We still need Xen Project AB review/approval and one more review from CentOS. 

Thanks,

Sarah 

 


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:58 AM, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
On 04/30/2014 10:42 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 30/04/2014 09:53, George Dunlap wrote:
Looks fine overall.  Just two comments:

* "...the kernel which Red Hat decided didn’t need to support the Xen Project Hypervisor."  This may be interpreted as a bit petulant: I think for a technical post, we just want to stick to the facts.
Agreed. The phrasing made me feel that I didn't want to continue reading. all that is needed, is ".... ,which does not support the Xen Project Hypervisor"

* The Virt SIG seems like a bit of an afterthought: in the "What does the Future Hold" section, I would start with the development of the Virt SIG, and then mention our plans (updating  every other Xen release, &c).
How about something like this:

The Xen4CentOS is not a one-time, cut-and-run hack. It is being transitioned into the newly formed  CentOS Virtualization SIG. This CentOS SIG will focus on providing a specialized CentOS variant suitable for various virtualization technologies, including the Xen Project Hypervisor. The plan is to provide regular security and bug-fix updates as needed and to upgrade the Xen Project Hypervisor with every even major release (4.4, 4.6, etc) and to provide matching updates for QEMU, libvirt and other dependent packages.

So if you were thinking about trying Xen Project software on CentOS, there is now every reason to give it a try.


Sounds good to me.

 -George


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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h19sm4612548wiw.17.2014.04.30.09.30.39 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5361252B.6030103@xen.org> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:30:35 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Publicity] Early draft of questions for Xen Project user summit X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org See http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Project_User_Survey This will probably need another 2 iterations, in particular * on the substance and overall topics/coverage * a little bit of collaboration with Konrad (release coordinator) on the user section * tidy the feature section (too long and unwieldy at this stage). 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