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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p15sm31343200wiv.8.2014.06.02.03.22.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Jun 2014 03:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <538C505F.4050107@xen.org> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 11:22:23 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" , "xen-devel@lists.xen.org" , "xen-api@lists.xen.org" , "mirageos-devel@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Publicity] Hackathon Follow-up @ Please post session notes on the list (and send me picture) X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hi all, I trust the remainder of the Hackathon went well and I hope the evening event was fun. I have to apologize again for having to leave on Thursday night and hope I didn't give the flu I am still battling with to anyone. May I ask you to post session notes on the mailing list labelling them [Hackathon] or add them to the wiki and post a link to the lists labelled [Hackathon] , such that others can participate off-line. I still have a few posts I need to make myself. They will follow shortly. Also, if you took photos, please send them to me. And of course I am looking for a volunteer to write up an event report. Regards Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 02 10:22:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 10:22:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrPNu-0002rX-09; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 10:22:30 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrPNr-0002qm-PZ; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 10:22:27 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:45792] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id D0/9F-13602-1605C835; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 10:22:25 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1401704545!8641103!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.172] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 17177 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2014 10:22:25 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f172.google.com) (209.85.212.172) by server-7.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Jun 2014 10:22:25 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hi2so4229523wib.11 for ; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 03:22:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mAZfg+BtQYxjhPbDeo93EOBLc+ELlagNpA4Z7rbCgl0=; b=z3RZixMXgCFDEz4o4zcwfHVuK1Y4mAGWyCcWe0NhlkUY9D8qqb6XohuAbUuaj+NrLV uIRKTUYSz6gPhhAh+2L1ZxBsKhUqY7OatL1Rq0Qn9RLJCKL01m5ZYE8a6H0hKY5bKrdc Lw2AKltpcKMayhq9nu3OZnYJRkXRBKWkgiFEX7PK++gYNK9aqUZ8YqMBspjb/Fkd4nZk B5MIqAwQFg97zi3S908hzIYx2danyglXOzmg28hs5BK+ivPJxLFQTGJ2NP1wxEOGetFm 4pfcEibUML1krL7iSiM9oeTIOlgIbJURTuGX+52jU38M17SkUNUWDiIuN8Vf9XaEquB0 dTRg== X-Received: by 10.180.87.165 with SMTP id az5mr21265494wib.10.1401704545036; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 03:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p15sm31343200wiv.8.2014.06.02.03.22.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Jun 2014 03:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <538C505F.4050107@xen.org> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 11:22:23 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" , "xen-devel@lists.xen.org" , "xen-api@lists.xen.org" , "mirageos-devel@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Publicity] Hackathon Follow-up @ Please post session notes on the list (and send me picture) X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hi all, I trust the remainder of the Hackathon went well and I hope the evening event was fun. I have to apologize again for having to leave on Thursday night and hope I didn't give the flu I am still battling with to anyone. May I ask you to post session notes on the mailing list labelling them [Hackathon] or add them to the wiki and post a link to the lists labelled [Hackathon] , such that others can participate off-line. I still have a few posts I need to make myself. They will follow shortly. Also, if you took photos, please send them to me. And of course I am looking for a volunteer to write up an event report. Regards Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 02 17:08:55 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 17:08:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrVjD-0005Eh-DJ; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 17:08:55 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrVjC-0005Ea-E2 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 17:08:54 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:40883] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 62/64-06539-5AFAC835; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 17:08:53 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1401728931!8729236!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28235 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2014 17:08:53 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-15.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Jun 2014 17:08:53 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,957,1392163200"; d="scan'208";a="138692682" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 02 Jun 2014 17:08:51 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 2 Jun 2014 13:08:51 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WrVj8-0000Gd-QY for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 18:08:50 +0100 Message-ID: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 18:08:27 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" X-DLP: MIA2 Subject: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hey all, As part of the hand-off of the release coordinator role, I started writing down some of the principles I was using; and I thought that parts of it might make a good blog post. I've got a draft up here: http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true Let me know if you have any feedback. It's not particularly time-sensitive, so you might just drop it in some week where other things are kind of slow in the next couple of months. -George _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 02 17:08:55 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 17:08:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrVjD-0005Eh-DJ; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 17:08:55 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrVjC-0005Ea-E2 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 17:08:54 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:40883] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 62/64-06539-5AFAC835; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 17:08:53 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1401728931!8729236!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28235 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2014 17:08:53 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-15.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Jun 2014 17:08:53 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,957,1392163200"; d="scan'208";a="138692682" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 02 Jun 2014 17:08:51 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 2 Jun 2014 13:08:51 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WrVj8-0000Gd-QY for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 18:08:50 +0100 Message-ID: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 18:08:27 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" X-DLP: MIA2 Subject: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hey all, As part of the hand-off of the release coordinator role, I started writing down some of the principles I was using; and I thought that parts of it might make a good blog post. I've got a draft up here: http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true Let me know if you have any feedback. It's not particularly time-sensitive, so you might just drop it in some week where other things are kind of slow in the next couple of months. -George _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Jun 03 09:06:03 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:06:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrkfT-00017Y-H2; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:06:03 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrkfR-00017K-Tr for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:06:02 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:37376] by server-15.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 35/B9-13757-9FF8D835; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:06:01 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1401786360!5219392!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.217.181] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16989 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2014 09:06:00 -0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (HELO mail-lb0-f181.google.com) (209.85.217.181) by server-14.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 3 Jun 2014 09:06:00 -0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id q8so3188932lbi.26 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 02:06:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2Bs3OEBeiIYwMDDn5kb2mdtj/NwpYs3/ZfBejNXu4cI=; b=a2ytqopedBx/quR51Pdzk2lAcHkhgmJInQl1oCTqrEaCOuHFPkaXLVfE8GTBGqaoFQ 1Q7GtKxPx4FQILSvO6AYvFH2xHgAv3Wquw6p3eRUiMv3lTxE1t21qKhv5BSTbJHg392R 9A/FPhvvDlnTZPoV02o9i6uQ49ZzNBS0wiSpsLUKan0B/+ebo+TpEzjGE6oqkS0h8I4T GnvF4Rwsv27EAMiUnCoA3IveVU5MyBMzc42573ancYgH3MYAdBEZft668+zLVi3NALbA ogJG9TzRjbvPn3GDKfg/Dnblmz/oKMHBw11NXRsLIs5YnlUB7IWnw1WlkMcyOOXxCxfh qBmA== X-Received: by 10.152.18.133 with SMTP id w5mr2004240lad.60.1401786359830; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 02:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.26.11] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. 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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bj2sm1783291wib.3.2014.06.03.03.35.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Jun 2014 03:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <538DA4DB.8050906@xen.org> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:35:07 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" , "xen-devel@lists.xen.org" , "xen-api@lists.xen.org" , "mirageos-devel@lists.xenproject.org" References: <538C505F.4050107@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <538C505F.4050107@xen.org> Subject: Re: [Publicity] Hackathon Follow-up @ Please post session notes on the list (and send me picture) X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hi all, I started posting links to minutes on http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Hackathon#May_2014_.5BHackathon_Minutes.5D, such that they are all in one place Lars On 02/06/2014 11:22, Lars Kurth wrote: > Hi all, > > I trust the remainder of the Hackathon went well and I hope the > evening event was fun. I have to apologize again for having to leave > on Thursday night and hope I didn't give the flu I am still battling > with to anyone. > > May I ask you to post session notes on the mailing list labelling them > [Hackathon] or add them to the wiki and post a link to the lists > labelled [Hackathon] , such that others can participate off-line. I > still have a few posts I need to make myself. They will follow shortly. > > Also, if you took photos, please send them to me. > > And of course I am looking for a volunteer to write up an event report. > > Regards > Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Jun 03 10:35:14 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:35:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wrm3m-0005Vi-Nt; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:35:14 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wrm3l-0005Uk-Do; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:35:13 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:41953] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 3B/76-02781-0E4AD835; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:35:12 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1401791711!3383002!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.51] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5588 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2014 10:35:12 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f51.google.com) (74.125.82.51) by server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 3 Jun 2014 10:35:12 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id x13so6537963wgg.22 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 03:35:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JhNMwg8KNU3SKalOE5EsoLhaEOHm6DhslKFNtV7Hpns=; b=qT4EqjNMLoVY70N88/LO76wJva5D59cCEPjcv+viOxcXv3mbz/i1THqxYOyCxX5PXK 8mLyDSax3O6pZX12TZe6w9XCZi53n83sHffrtxb0sMF/Meb9sxAoyHrmTdmBWjeoMMfo wTNnpBGSLYnYz5z+/qWASLilckfr4bK4R/tjg5w2Q+kbsx+nZ+eOKza5dYseiFDF6QcO AnbL1ZUCT71UExNkWvHAC7IMDenJFwk8JZgGzX+Y672xj3wGZjcjuJFgXi779I5+p1O1 wxJCig0IcgTH+Up+RsrHMsGGvLZqHPbubvftJrW0Drvv+vAHj8HpMtKN1cwvNLJrZRcB NS4Q== X-Received: by 10.194.91.144 with SMTP id ce16mr59102293wjb.18.1401791709380; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 03:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bj2sm1783291wib.3.2014.06.03.03.35.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Jun 2014 03:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <538DA4DB.8050906@xen.org> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:35:07 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" , "xen-devel@lists.xen.org" , "xen-api@lists.xen.org" , "mirageos-devel@lists.xenproject.org" References: <538C505F.4050107@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <538C505F.4050107@xen.org> Subject: Re: [Publicity] Hackathon Follow-up @ Please post session notes on the list (and send me picture) X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hi all, I started posting links to minutes on http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Hackathon#May_2014_.5BHackathon_Minutes.5D, such that they are all in one place Lars On 02/06/2014 11:22, Lars Kurth wrote: > Hi all, > > I trust the remainder of the Hackathon went well and I hope the > evening event was fun. I have to apologize again for having to leave > on Thursday night and hope I didn't give the flu I am still battling > with to anyone. > > May I ask you to post session notes on the mailing list labelling them > [Hackathon] or add them to the wiki and post a link to the lists > labelled [Hackathon] , such that others can participate off-line. I > still have a few posts I need to make myself. They will follow shortly. > > Also, if you took photos, please send them to me. > > And of course I am looking for a volunteer to write up an event report. > > Regards > Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Jun 03 10:42:54 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:42:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrmBC-0006Ji-OM; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:42:54 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrmBB-0006JY-MV for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:42:53 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:47467] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id E0/AF-02781-CA6AD835; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:42:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1401792169!8799067!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 17602 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2014 10:42:50 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-15.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 3 Jun 2014 10:42:50 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,964,1392163200"; d="scan'208";a="138993427" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 03 Jun 2014 10:42:49 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 06:42:48 -0400 Received: from kaball.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.59]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WrlwJ-0006BQ-2Y; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:27:31 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 11:27:21 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: <538D8FF5.3050400@xen.org> Message-ID: References: <538D8FF5.3050400@xen.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1342847746-890361220-1401790679=:4779" Content-ID: X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Today's blog post for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --1342847746-890361220-1401790679=:4779 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: On Tue, 3 Jun 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: > http://blog.xen.org/?p=3D9606&preview=3Dtrue > Changes will require approval The sentence "Virtualization =E2=80=93 in particular Xen Project virtualization =E2=80= =93 shows great promise for this new class of SoCs" doesn't flow very well. I would rephrase it as "The Xen Project hypervisor shows great promise for this new class of SoCs.= " Also the following is difficult to read: "Cavium=E2=80=99s commitment to standards and driving key server capabiliti= es =E2=80=93 such as GICv3 with 48 core support along with multi-socket cache coherency up to 96 cores in a dual socket configuration =E2=80=94 will be valuable contributions to the Xen Project community." Maybe I would reword it as "Committed to ARMv8 standards, Cavium is driving key server capabilities, such as GICv3 with 48 core support along with multi-socket cache coherency up to 96 cores in a dual socket configuration. Cavium has already started working with the Xen Project community to enhance the hypervisor to best support these technologies." --1342847746-890361220-1401790679=:4779 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --1342847746-890361220-1401790679=:4779-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Jun 03 10:42:54 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:42:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrmBC-0006Ji-OM; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:42:54 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrmBB-0006JY-MV for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:42:53 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:47467] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id E0/AF-02781-CA6AD835; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:42:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1401792169!8799067!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 17602 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2014 10:42:50 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-15.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 3 Jun 2014 10:42:50 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,964,1392163200"; d="scan'208";a="138993427" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 03 Jun 2014 10:42:49 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 06:42:48 -0400 Received: from kaball.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.59]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WrlwJ-0006BQ-2Y; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:27:31 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 11:27:21 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: <538D8FF5.3050400@xen.org> Message-ID: References: <538D8FF5.3050400@xen.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1342847746-890361220-1401790679=:4779" Content-ID: X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Today's blog post for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --1342847746-890361220-1401790679=:4779 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: On Tue, 3 Jun 2014, Lars Kurth wrote: > http://blog.xen.org/?p=3D9606&preview=3Dtrue > Changes will require approval The sentence "Virtualization =E2=80=93 in particular Xen Project virtualization =E2=80= =93 shows great promise for this new class of SoCs" doesn't flow very well. I would rephrase it as "The Xen Project hypervisor shows great promise for this new class of SoCs.= " Also the following is difficult to read: "Cavium=E2=80=99s commitment to standards and driving key server capabiliti= es =E2=80=93 such as GICv3 with 48 core support along with multi-socket cache coherency up to 96 cores in a dual socket configuration =E2=80=94 will be valuable contributions to the Xen Project community." Maybe I would reword it as "Committed to ARMv8 standards, Cavium is driving key server capabilities, such as GICv3 with 48 core support along with multi-socket cache coherency up to 96 cores in a dual socket configuration. Cavium has already started working with the Xen Project community to enhance the hypervisor to best support these technologies." --1342847746-890361220-1401790679=:4779 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --1342847746-890361220-1401790679=:4779-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Jun 03 11:02:53 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:02:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrmUW-000771-IR; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:02:52 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrmUV-00076w-72 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:02:51 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:24717] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 03/19-13602-A5BAD835; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:02:50 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1401793368!8916367!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6589 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2014 11:02:49 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 3 Jun 2014 11:02:49 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,964,1392163200"; d="scan'208,217";a="138544461" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 03 Jun 2014 11:02:49 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 07:02:47 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WrmUR-0006pd-Fq; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 12:02:47 +0100 Message-ID: <538DAB3F.9020501@eu.citrix.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 12:02:23 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" References: <538D8FF5.3050400@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <538D8FF5.3050400@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA1 Subject: Re: [Publicity] Today's blog post for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3674929987598038891==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3674929987598038891== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040001090407080706020207" --------------040001090407080706020207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Since becoming a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project, we announced five new members, including ARM, NetApp, Rackspace and Verizon Terremark." It's a bit unclear -- someone might think that the Xen Project only has five members total, which is not true. You might want to reword it to mention the founding members somehow. -George On 06/03/2014 10:05 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > http://blog.xen.org/?p=9606&preview=true > Changes will require approval > Lars > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --------------040001090407080706020207 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
"Since becoming a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project, we announced five new members, including ARM, NetApp, Rackspace and Verizon Terremark."

It's a bit unclear -- someone might think that the Xen Project only has five members total, which is not true.  You might want to reword it to mention the founding members somehow.

 -George

On 06/03/2014 10:05 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
http://blog.xen.org/?p=9606&preview=true
Changes will require approval
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--------------040001090407080706020207-- --===============3674929987598038891== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============3674929987598038891==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Jun 03 11:02:53 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:02:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrmUW-000771-IR; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:02:52 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WrmUV-00076w-72 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:02:51 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:24717] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 03/19-13602-A5BAD835; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:02:50 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1401793368!8916367!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6589 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2014 11:02:49 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 3 Jun 2014 11:02:49 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,964,1392163200"; d="scan'208,217";a="138544461" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 03 Jun 2014 11:02:49 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 07:02:47 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WrmUR-0006pd-Fq; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 12:02:47 +0100 Message-ID: <538DAB3F.9020501@eu.citrix.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 12:02:23 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" References: <538D8FF5.3050400@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <538D8FF5.3050400@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA1 Subject: Re: [Publicity] Today's blog post for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3674929987598038891==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3674929987598038891== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040001090407080706020207" --------------040001090407080706020207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Since becoming a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project, we announced five new members, including ARM, NetApp, Rackspace and Verizon Terremark." It's a bit unclear -- someone might think that the Xen Project only has five members total, which is not true. You might want to reword it to mention the founding members somehow. -George On 06/03/2014 10:05 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > http://blog.xen.org/?p=9606&preview=true > Changes will require approval > Lars > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --------------040001090407080706020207 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
"Since becoming a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project, we announced five new members, including ARM, NetApp, Rackspace and Verizon Terremark."

It's a bit unclear -- someone might think that the Xen Project only has five members total, which is not true.  You might want to reword it to mention the founding members somehow.

 -George

On 06/03/2014 10:05 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
http://blog.xen.org/?p=9606&preview=true
Changes will require approval
Lars

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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gd5sm7082225wjb.40.2014.06.05.01.40.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Jun 2014 01:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53902CF7.2030909@xen.org> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 09:40:23 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefano Stabellini , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <22A319B6-502F-4CAB-852B-AA77C94E87E2@recoil.org> <98E6A8A8-97BF-4D3B-B968-A85EEA9A4B8B@recoil.org> In-Reply-To: Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] [blog DRAFT] How fast is Xen on ARM, really? X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Any progress on the status of this post? All in place for publication? Lars On 25/05/2014 15:17, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > On Sat, 24 May 2014, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: >> On 23 May 2014, at 17:27, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >>> >>>> The postgres benchmark left me wondering why x86 is so much faster -- is that because it just had a better disk? >>> I don't think that results such as 0.4% or 0.1% are very significant. >>> As I wrote in the article, the overhead is so low in the disk benchmarks >>> that they only manage to demonstrate that one needs a fast SSD to really >>> show the virtualization overhead. >> you should generally scale the Y axis so that the threshold of significance >> is obvious to the reader. > You are right, that is a good idea, I'll make the change. > > >> In this case, it's at 0.8 (0.8 what? percent? relative to?) > Percentage of native performance, it is written right at the beginning > of the benchmark chapter. > > >> If it's not a significant result, then also explain that somewhere in the text so the reader knows the implication. But it's better to fix the graph itself so that it's self-evident... > It is written right before "FIO". > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Jun 05 08:40:45 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:40:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WsTE5-0008Gy-En; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:40:45 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WsTE3-0008Gp-Go for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:40:43 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:48354] by server-13.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id D6/A6-23211-A0D20935; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:40:42 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1401957641!3878342!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.173] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5311 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2014 08:40:41 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f173.google.com) (209.85.212.173) by server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 5 Jun 2014 08:40:41 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id bs8so9936492wib.12 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 01:40:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fSlw8O+GoIAkVZnsCEeDZHS/kFJP3zT7kk0lrbuCUrw=; b=jbZlnONFXPI0Nyy5lBfEOPIkV03vwgyI9lQrLsRcAYHNZeToVjgICoHk9LH64MNjUp UzVur+3vqpTa8mMNEVv5pAvWEPBv4vmHymFK2cPbmWOrWAnyv3ZXZDVfUNHEytOrK5Fh UYoC7ZXJfM+C9jSaLOHEq+fp6h3yJlY+W+cFhWsuUNqENpf2Zzud5+m9PmhmheIKLRos g4K5MWmZwEXELZQk1tmkaZqOiutrKikZH0s/0vsuApnVrTI/ZYIRaEuksvZ9kPAft/XR 7I4QffZc7dcJyTRsDH/D3AKksSJwCSkwKLLXd3IKglGhpUrMSkbKS0OjJYEEHVxQitXX FOPw== X-Received: by 10.180.228.6 with SMTP id se6mr13508974wic.52.1401957641428; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 01:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.26.11] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gd5sm7082225wjb.40.2014.06.05.01.40.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Jun 2014 01:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53902CF7.2030909@xen.org> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 09:40:23 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefano Stabellini , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <22A319B6-502F-4CAB-852B-AA77C94E87E2@recoil.org> <98E6A8A8-97BF-4D3B-B968-A85EEA9A4B8B@recoil.org> In-Reply-To: Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] [blog DRAFT] How fast is Xen on ARM, really? X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Any progress on the status of this post? All in place for publication? Lars On 25/05/2014 15:17, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > On Sat, 24 May 2014, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: >> On 23 May 2014, at 17:27, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >>> >>>> The postgres benchmark left me wondering why x86 is so much faster -- is that because it just had a better disk? >>> I don't think that results such as 0.4% or 0.1% are very significant. >>> As I wrote in the article, the overhead is so low in the disk benchmarks >>> that they only manage to demonstrate that one needs a fast SSD to really >>> show the virtualization overhead. >> you should generally scale the Y axis so that the threshold of significance >> is obvious to the reader. > You are right, that is a good idea, I'll make the change. > > >> In this case, it's at 0.8 (0.8 what? percent? relative to?) > Percentage of native performance, it is written right at the beginning > of the benchmark chapter. > > >> If it's not a significant result, then also explain that somewhere in the text so the reader knows the implication. But it's better to fix the graph itself so that it's self-evident... > It is written right before "FIO". > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Jun 05 09:25:44 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 09:25:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WsTvc-0000rk-E5; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 09:25:44 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WsTvb-0000rN-NO for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 09:25:44 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:48426] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 1E/97-06539-69730935; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 09:25:42 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1401960341!9346444!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.41] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.1 required=7.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25266 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2014 09:25:41 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f41.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f41.google.com) (74.125.82.41) by server-6.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 5 Jun 2014 09:25:41 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id z12so747410wgg.0 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:25:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=5DHFu2TNUPrwT9zZMnCG0S6q0U98t+V1osp73b5zuIQ=; b=Dgjww60iT+VNvZTvz+iWFOHciWhnH4XxfeHcyStZ5GrtvwpzX+sntMql39UYaH7QVk +1rm6OZG0oqrGG8IRmJGzvOdorsj+BdKD/LA8/R5ES8JuPyDMux0J2US6/UnI4HhF2+M twG3ZDol8XSa5lFViXjFBVP6f/KT2kmV9CJS6RGN9sL08SEcaCr1Alv83eB4C4g0PbAV kp9gsb7fH/LYLigTRuH9JoyIj3/OFsZKXzWLzHxq64r9XrgBgfFrUxEHGDBqjRihBeXW 2TIAS1wFaNvszDuYSkGwC5szFtpTv9noUg3ZoyU9gfaIuPeFcacUL6g0spv6iIKhJfF6 PeoA== X-Received: by 10.180.109.133 with SMTP id hs5mr10138515wib.40.1401960341152; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gp6sm14457982wib.12.2014.06.05.02.25.40 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53903793.1060108@xen.org> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:25:39 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1816932127633968060==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1816932127633968060== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090108030303030403080006" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090108030303030403080006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George, a great post. Some comments Generally, adding subheadings will help. They are already in the title: Risk, intuition, and freeze exceptions You may also want to link to my recent blog post > "I have three goals when doing release management. In order:" The "in order" as a separate sentence seems somewhat odd and interrupts the flow. Also I would emphasize () bug free, awesome, on-time throughout the document > Paragraph "One of the most time-consuming aspects ..." This paragraph is slightly convoluted. I would try and break up some of the sentences. Also, I would emphasize the goals as said above, e.g. more awesome and leave out the #2 > "Making decisions about accepting or rejecting patches as release coordinator is about making calculated risks: making calculated risks=taking calculated risks=calculating risk I think you used this phrase throughout the document > look at the benefits, look at the potential costs, look at the probabilities, and try to make the best balance you can out of them." I would bulletize this list > "risks won't pay off" taking? "risks won't pay off" > "You may approve a patch to go in, and it will then turn out to have a bug in it which delays the release." I think that is a bad example for "taking a risk not paying off". A better example would be if taking in a patch wont have the desired effect (e.g. another piece for feature foo was still missing and didn't make it). In this example, the risk merely materialized. You may want to look at this paragraph again > Now, research has shown that the intuition of experts can It would be good to link to that research > One of the key ways "key was" soudns stylistically odd Just a general thought: On the risk side of patches dow e make use of coverity scan to check whether anything has become worse? You should link to the books. As an aside, the title covers "freeze exceptions" but only skims over the subject it indirectly Regards Lars On 02/06/2014 18:08, George Dunlap wrote: > Hey all, > > As part of the hand-off of the release coordinator role, I started > writing down some of the principles I was using; and I thought that > parts of it might make a good blog post. > > I've got a draft up here: > > http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true > > Let me know if you have any feedback. It's not particularly > time-sensitive, so you might just drop it in some week where other > things are kind of slow in the next couple of months. > > -George > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --------------090108030303030403080006 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
George,

a great post. Some comments

Generally, adding subheadings will help. They are already in the title: Risk, intuition, and freeze exceptions
You may also want to link to my recent blog post

> "I have three goals when doing release management.  In order:"
The "in order" as a separate sentence seems somewhat odd and interrupts the flow. Also I would emphasize (<em></em>) bug free, awesome, on-time throughout the document

> Paragraph "One of the most time-consuming aspects ..."
This paragraph is slightly convoluted. I would try and break up some of the sentences. Also, I would emphasize the goals as said above, e.g. <em>more awesome</em> and leave out the #2

> "Making decisions about accepting or rejecting patches as release coordinator is about making calculated risks:
making calculated risks=taking calculated risks=calculating risk
I think you used this phrase throughout the document

> look at the benefits, look at the potential costs, look at the probabilities, and try to make the best balance you can out of them."
I would bulletize this list

> "risks won't pay off"
taking? "risks won't pay off"

> "You may approve a patch to go in, and it will then turn out to have a bug in it which delays the release."
I think that is a bad example for "taking a risk not paying off". A better example would be if taking in a patch wont have the desired effect (e.g. another piece for feature foo was still missing and didn't make it). In this example, the risk merely materialized. You may want to look at this paragraph again

> Now, research has shown that the intuition of experts can
It would be good to link to that research

> One of the key ways
"key was" soudns stylistically odd

Just a general thought: On the risk side of patches dow e make use of coverity scan to check whether anything has become worse?

You should link to the books. As an aside, the title covers "freeze exceptions" but only skims over the subject it indirectly

Regards
Lars

On 02/06/2014 18:08, George Dunlap wrote:
Hey all,

As part of the hand-off of the release coordinator role, I started writing down some of the principles I was using; and I thought that parts of it might make a good blog post.

I've got a draft up here:

http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true

Let me know if you have any feedback.  It's not particularly time-sensitive, so you might just drop it in some week where other things are kind of slow in the next couple of months.

 -George

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http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity

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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gp6sm14457982wib.12.2014.06.05.02.25.40 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53903793.1060108@xen.org> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:25:39 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1816932127633968060==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1816932127633968060== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090108030303030403080006" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090108030303030403080006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George, a great post. Some comments Generally, adding subheadings will help. They are already in the title: Risk, intuition, and freeze exceptions You may also want to link to my recent blog post > "I have three goals when doing release management. In order:" The "in order" as a separate sentence seems somewhat odd and interrupts the flow. Also I would emphasize () bug free, awesome, on-time throughout the document > Paragraph "One of the most time-consuming aspects ..." This paragraph is slightly convoluted. I would try and break up some of the sentences. Also, I would emphasize the goals as said above, e.g. more awesome and leave out the #2 > "Making decisions about accepting or rejecting patches as release coordinator is about making calculated risks: making calculated risks=taking calculated risks=calculating risk I think you used this phrase throughout the document > look at the benefits, look at the potential costs, look at the probabilities, and try to make the best balance you can out of them." I would bulletize this list > "risks won't pay off" taking? "risks won't pay off" > "You may approve a patch to go in, and it will then turn out to have a bug in it which delays the release." I think that is a bad example for "taking a risk not paying off". A better example would be if taking in a patch wont have the desired effect (e.g. another piece for feature foo was still missing and didn't make it). In this example, the risk merely materialized. You may want to look at this paragraph again > Now, research has shown that the intuition of experts can It would be good to link to that research > One of the key ways "key was" soudns stylistically odd Just a general thought: On the risk side of patches dow e make use of coverity scan to check whether anything has become worse? You should link to the books. As an aside, the title covers "freeze exceptions" but only skims over the subject it indirectly Regards Lars On 02/06/2014 18:08, George Dunlap wrote: > Hey all, > > As part of the hand-off of the release coordinator role, I started > writing down some of the principles I was using; and I thought that > parts of it might make a good blog post. > > I've got a draft up here: > > http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true > > Let me know if you have any feedback. It's not particularly > time-sensitive, so you might just drop it in some week where other > things are kind of slow in the next couple of months. > > -George > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --------------090108030303030403080006 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
George,

a great post. Some comments

Generally, adding subheadings will help. They are already in the title: Risk, intuition, and freeze exceptions
You may also want to link to my recent blog post

> "I have three goals when doing release management.  In order:"
The "in order" as a separate sentence seems somewhat odd and interrupts the flow. Also I would emphasize (<em></em>) bug free, awesome, on-time throughout the document

> Paragraph "One of the most time-consuming aspects ..."
This paragraph is slightly convoluted. I would try and break up some of the sentences. Also, I would emphasize the goals as said above, e.g. <em>more awesome</em> and leave out the #2

> "Making decisions about accepting or rejecting patches as release coordinator is about making calculated risks:
making calculated risks=taking calculated risks=calculating risk
I think you used this phrase throughout the document

> look at the benefits, look at the potential costs, look at the probabilities, and try to make the best balance you can out of them."
I would bulletize this list

> "risks won't pay off"
taking? "risks won't pay off"

> "You may approve a patch to go in, and it will then turn out to have a bug in it which delays the release."
I think that is a bad example for "taking a risk not paying off". A better example would be if taking in a patch wont have the desired effect (e.g. another piece for feature foo was still missing and didn't make it). In this example, the risk merely materialized. You may want to look at this paragraph again

> Now, research has shown that the intuition of experts can
It would be good to link to that research

> One of the key ways
"key was" soudns stylistically odd

Just a general thought: On the risk side of patches dow e make use of coverity scan to check whether anything has become worse?

You should link to the books. As an aside, the title covers "freeze exceptions" but only skims over the subject it indirectly

Regards
Lars

On 02/06/2014 18:08, George Dunlap wrote:
Hey all,

As part of the hand-off of the release coordinator role, I started writing down some of the principles I was using; and I thought that parts of it might make a good blog post.

I've got a draft up here:

http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true

Let me know if you have any feedback.  It's not particularly time-sensitive, so you might just drop it in some week where other things are kind of slow in the next couple of months.

 -George

_______________________________________________
Publicity mailing list
Publicity@lists.xenproject.org
http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity

--------------090108030303030403080006-- --===============1816932127633968060== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============1816932127633968060==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Sun Jun 08 22:42:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jun 2014 22:42:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtln7-00089z-MF; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 22:42:17 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtln6-00089u-8M for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 22:42:16 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:59101] by server-3.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id DF/90-08149-6C6E4935; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 22:42:14 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1402267331!8789542!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16780 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2014 22:42:12 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-2.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Jun 2014 22:42:12 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,1000,1392163200"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="140809113" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 08 Jun 2014 22:42:10 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Sun, 8 Jun 2014 18:42:10 -0400 Message-ID: <1402267329.18822.22.camel@Abyss> From: Dario Faggioli To: Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 00:42:09 +0200 Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Subject: [Publicity] Blog post about Fedora Xen live CD X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0995122816795255206==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============0995122816795255206== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-xpFg05P1J+PPlTPJfGSA" --=-xpFg05P1J+PPlTPJfGSA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Just to let the list know, I've got the Fedora Xen LiveCD ready and working. It's nothing super-hyper-cool, from a technical standpoint, but I was thinking, after having announced it to the relevant Fedora mailing lists, to write a blog post about it (where to find it, how to customize and regenerate it, etc.) If that is interesting, it certainly can be made ready within this week (Tue or, at last, Wed). Let me know what you think. Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-xpFg05P1J+PPlTPJfGSA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlOU5sEACgkQk4XaBE3IOsTKGgCeP+FQMjxoOkQ7D8atwPStDImW SsYAmwYFHLHihgF+MZ8us6TqdV/2LGm9 =4NMW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-xpFg05P1J+PPlTPJfGSA-- --===============0995122816795255206== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============0995122816795255206==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Sun Jun 08 22:42:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jun 2014 22:42:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtln7-00089z-MF; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 22:42:17 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtln6-00089u-8M for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 22:42:16 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:59101] by server-3.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id DF/90-08149-6C6E4935; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 22:42:14 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1402267331!8789542!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16780 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2014 22:42:12 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-2.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Jun 2014 22:42:12 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,1000,1392163200"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="140809113" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 08 Jun 2014 22:42:10 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Sun, 8 Jun 2014 18:42:10 -0400 Message-ID: <1402267329.18822.22.camel@Abyss> From: Dario Faggioli To: Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 00:42:09 +0200 Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Subject: [Publicity] Blog post about Fedora Xen live CD X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0995122816795255206==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============0995122816795255206== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-xpFg05P1J+PPlTPJfGSA" --=-xpFg05P1J+PPlTPJfGSA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Just to let the list know, I've got the Fedora Xen LiveCD ready and working. It's nothing super-hyper-cool, from a technical standpoint, but I was thinking, after having announced it to the relevant Fedora mailing lists, to write a blog post about it (where to find it, how to customize and regenerate it, etc.) If that is interesting, it certainly can be made ready within this week (Tue or, at last, Wed). Let me know what you think. Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-xpFg05P1J+PPlTPJfGSA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlOU5sEACgkQk4XaBE3IOsTKGgCeP+FQMjxoOkQ7D8atwPStDImW SsYAmwYFHLHihgF+MZ8us6TqdV/2LGm9 =4NMW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-xpFg05P1J+PPlTPJfGSA-- --===============0995122816795255206== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============0995122816795255206==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 09 09:19:47 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:19:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtvk2-0003Dm-Rs; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:19:46 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtvk1-0003Dh-6F for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:19:45 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:28956] by server-5.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 47/30-26413-03C75935; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:19:44 +0000 X-Env-Sender: konrad.wilk@oracle.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1402305582!4565072!1 X-Originating-IP: [141.146.126.69] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTQxLjE0Ni4xMjYuNjkgPT4gMjc3MjE4\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 29187 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2014 09:19:43 -0000 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (HELO aserp1040.oracle.com) (141.146.126.69) by server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jun 2014 09:19:43 -0000 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s599JeM6020049 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 9 Jun 2014 09:19:41 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s599Jdw7008751 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 9 Jun 2014 09:19:40 GMT Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s599Jdrd008731; Mon, 9 Jun 2014 09:19:39 GMT Message-Id: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> Received: from [IPv6:2607:fb90:290a:d276:657f:609e:2623:c1d2] (/172.56.23.75) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 02:19:38 -0700 Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 05:19:32 -0400 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk To: Dario Faggioli MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] Cc: Boris Ostrovsky , publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post about Fedora Xen live CD X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Jun 8, 2014 6:42 PM, Dario Faggioli wrote: > > Hi, > > Just to let the list know, I've got the Fedora Xen LiveCD ready and > working. It's nothing super-hyper-cool, from a technical standpoint, but > I was thinking, after having announced it to the relevant Fedora mailing > lists, to write a blog post about it (where to find it, how to customize > and regenerate it, etc.) Yes! I would very much enjoy that and it would also help in tracking some bugs down (I presume the installer initrd gets created dynamically)? > > If that is interesting, it certainly can be made ready within this week > (Tue or, at last, Wed). > > Let me know what you think. > > Regards, > Dario > -- > <> (Raistlin Majere) > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli > Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 09 09:19:47 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:19:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtvk2-0003Dm-Rs; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:19:46 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtvk1-0003Dh-6F for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:19:45 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:28956] by server-5.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 47/30-26413-03C75935; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:19:44 +0000 X-Env-Sender: konrad.wilk@oracle.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1402305582!4565072!1 X-Originating-IP: [141.146.126.69] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTQxLjE0Ni4xMjYuNjkgPT4gMjc3MjE4\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 29187 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2014 09:19:43 -0000 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (HELO aserp1040.oracle.com) (141.146.126.69) by server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jun 2014 09:19:43 -0000 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s599JeM6020049 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 9 Jun 2014 09:19:41 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s599Jdw7008751 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 9 Jun 2014 09:19:40 GMT Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s599Jdrd008731; Mon, 9 Jun 2014 09:19:39 GMT Message-Id: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> Received: from [IPv6:2607:fb90:290a:d276:657f:609e:2623:c1d2] (/172.56.23.75) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 02:19:38 -0700 Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 05:19:32 -0400 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk To: Dario Faggioli MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] Cc: Boris Ostrovsky , publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post about Fedora Xen live CD X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Jun 8, 2014 6:42 PM, Dario Faggioli wrote: > > Hi, > > Just to let the list know, I've got the Fedora Xen LiveCD ready and > working. It's nothing super-hyper-cool, from a technical standpoint, but > I was thinking, after having announced it to the relevant Fedora mailing > lists, to write a blog post about it (where to find it, how to customize > and regenerate it, etc.) Yes! I would very much enjoy that and it would also help in tracking some bugs down (I presume the installer initrd gets created dynamically)? > > If that is interesting, it certainly can be made ready within this week > (Tue or, at last, Wed). > > Let me know what you think. > > Regards, > Dario > -- > <> (Raistlin Majere) > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli > Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 09 11:51:08 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:51:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wty6V-0007UL-DC; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:51:07 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wty6T-0007UF-Nu for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:51:05 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:39678] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 03/4B-02781-8AF95935; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:51:04 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1402314664!9999403!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.177] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 2800 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2014 11:51:04 -0000 Received: from mail-we0-f177.google.com (HELO mail-we0-f177.google.com) (74.125.82.177) by server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jun 2014 11:51:04 -0000 Received: by mail-we0-f177.google.com with SMTP id u56so3574520wes.22 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:51:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xrr0gMxvguJCQdsnu0+/Y2egaQTY/Hg9IRFIkmHcluM=; b=Ld41rC63bOMsjsuo+br1hmW/Ddm2bEyHidLoQF/O3tRTamn2hCBacjcJm6wF/h6s4c 5N5Qz/UCpDKU05rxElzI/68KEzvj2uwSk5XLkFnJfsrHEXJbzRYLOhWKe4LFeA/7ZEox jgwiHFat+7M6C+uKnZaYY3ZQS3GFZYnnbj+PZy0sdWfs7iUyLN6kO4R2OwJQzYwqQYJ9 N2rHmhT68gu+fq0uv8fZ5McV9R4Cu5xJE1o9uHQbsbjGvTexJKRq5XyXL/3N4B2bhnCR CVbBwnNLDWnmuUP4Iq5IjbmP8thlW61pJ6Plfk7xRnxknnaLfyTMWHKn8Q9+/WmAaHBv r0zA== X-Received: by 10.180.37.230 with SMTP id b6mr7630677wik.47.1402314663770; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k7sm10072957wjw.6.2014.06.09.04.51.02 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53959F96.9010900@xen.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 12:50:46 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> Subject: [Publicity] Hackathon blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hi all, we ought to put together a Hackathon event report. As I have not been there for a large portion of it, I would need a few quotres from people who attended. I have gotten none, which makes it a little challenging to out this together Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 09 11:51:08 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:51:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wty6V-0007UL-DC; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:51:07 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wty6T-0007UF-Nu for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:51:05 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:39678] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 03/4B-02781-8AF95935; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:51:04 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1402314664!9999403!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.177] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 2800 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2014 11:51:04 -0000 Received: from mail-we0-f177.google.com (HELO mail-we0-f177.google.com) (74.125.82.177) by server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jun 2014 11:51:04 -0000 Received: by mail-we0-f177.google.com with SMTP id u56so3574520wes.22 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:51:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xrr0gMxvguJCQdsnu0+/Y2egaQTY/Hg9IRFIkmHcluM=; b=Ld41rC63bOMsjsuo+br1hmW/Ddm2bEyHidLoQF/O3tRTamn2hCBacjcJm6wF/h6s4c 5N5Qz/UCpDKU05rxElzI/68KEzvj2uwSk5XLkFnJfsrHEXJbzRYLOhWKe4LFeA/7ZEox jgwiHFat+7M6C+uKnZaYY3ZQS3GFZYnnbj+PZy0sdWfs7iUyLN6kO4R2OwJQzYwqQYJ9 N2rHmhT68gu+fq0uv8fZ5McV9R4Cu5xJE1o9uHQbsbjGvTexJKRq5XyXL/3N4B2bhnCR CVbBwnNLDWnmuUP4Iq5IjbmP8thlW61pJ6Plfk7xRnxknnaLfyTMWHKn8Q9+/WmAaHBv r0zA== X-Received: by 10.180.37.230 with SMTP id b6mr7630677wik.47.1402314663770; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k7sm10072957wjw.6.2014.06.09.04.51.02 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53959F96.9010900@xen.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 12:50:46 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> Subject: [Publicity] Hackathon blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hi all, we ought to put together a Hackathon event report. As I have not been there for a large portion of it, I would need a few quotres from people who attended. I have gotten none, which makes it a little challenging to out this together Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 09 15:38:44 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 15:38:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wu1el-00025V-R5; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 15:38:43 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wu1el-00022s-1r for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 15:38:43 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:53120] by server-14.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 40/65-15696-205D5935; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 15:38:42 +0000 X-Env-Sender: konrad.wilk@oracle.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1402328320!8944788!1 X-Originating-IP: [141.146.126.69] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTQxLjE0Ni4xMjYuNjkgPT4gMjc3MjE4\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 3094 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2014 15:38:41 -0000 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (HELO aserp1040.oracle.com) (141.146.126.69) by server-7.tower-206.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jun 2014 15:38:41 -0000 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s59FccUH001559 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 9 Jun 2014 15:38:39 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s59FccjO024874 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Jun 2014 15:38:38 GMT Received: from abhmp0003.oracle.com (abhmp0003.oracle.com [141.146.116.9]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s59Fcb8Z024867; Mon, 9 Jun 2014 15:38:37 GMT Received: from laptop.dumpdata.com (/50.195.21.189) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:38:37 -0700 Received: by laptop.dumpdata.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E32779EB34; Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:38:36 -0400 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk To: Lars Kurth Message-ID: <20140609153836.GA17834@laptop.dumpdata.com> References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> <53959F96.9010900@xen.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53959F96.9010900@xen.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Hackathon blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 12:50:46PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > Hi all, > we ought to put together a Hackathon event report. As I have not been there > for a large portion of it, I would need a few quotres from people who > attended. I have gotten none, which makes it a little challenging to out > this together We have been able to brainstorm and solve within an hour the problems that on a mailing list would have taken weeks to solve. We go in a room, hash out the problem, and in an hour we are all done with an excellent design in mind. The rest - implementing - can now be done with the right design in mind. > Lars > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 09 15:38:44 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 15:38:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wu1el-00025V-R5; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 15:38:43 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wu1el-00022s-1r for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 15:38:43 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:53120] by server-14.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 40/65-15696-205D5935; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 15:38:42 +0000 X-Env-Sender: konrad.wilk@oracle.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1402328320!8944788!1 X-Originating-IP: [141.146.126.69] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTQxLjE0Ni4xMjYuNjkgPT4gMjc3MjE4\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 3094 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2014 15:38:41 -0000 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (HELO aserp1040.oracle.com) (141.146.126.69) by server-7.tower-206.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jun 2014 15:38:41 -0000 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s59FccUH001559 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 9 Jun 2014 15:38:39 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s59FccjO024874 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Jun 2014 15:38:38 GMT Received: from abhmp0003.oracle.com (abhmp0003.oracle.com [141.146.116.9]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s59Fcb8Z024867; Mon, 9 Jun 2014 15:38:37 GMT Received: from laptop.dumpdata.com (/50.195.21.189) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:38:37 -0700 Received: by laptop.dumpdata.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E32779EB34; Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:38:36 -0400 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk To: Lars Kurth Message-ID: <20140609153836.GA17834@laptop.dumpdata.com> References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> <53959F96.9010900@xen.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53959F96.9010900@xen.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Hackathon blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 12:50:46PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > Hi all, > we ought to put together a Hackathon event report. As I have not been there > for a large portion of it, I would need a few quotres from people who > attended. I have gotten none, which makes it a little challenging to out > this together We have been able to brainstorm and solve within an hour the problems that on a mailing list would have taken weeks to solve. We go in a room, hash out the problem, and in an hour we are all done with an excellent design in mind. The rest - implementing - can now be done with the right design in mind. > Lars > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 09 16:04:02 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:04:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wu23F-00042H-MO; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:04:02 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wu23D-00042C-Ue for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:04:00 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:38998] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 91/FE-02781-EEAD5935; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:03:58 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1402329837!10086259!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.44] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11137 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2014 16:03:57 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f44.google.com) (74.125.82.44) by server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jun 2014 16:03:57 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id x13so3267476wgg.15 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:03:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aEo8DkWjTIDUREPf48+qEBsdSIaAWwZx1TQsQbSU6Hs=; b=BQmZHQGB3QshTLLH1HmIfNAeQUaV3VuR9QnW+B0KL97pX4gL+p0mE13rphBWYX7o0U U1rJeFrYvg4fq48+dlg19CiQ8J321xXQpQHYmWBk4ZJ8dpMPdGQYGraN+oBUivZS0lrZ ps7LqlyMz8pS51reoftArMTVpxL/tKgSvzakiRsqNPs9Zr7q6UXIGHOv/6+R8/sW1G3b M/S76jQD+LhS8ZlG/ssSc6Eg9w+Cy+MbR4aEoMbvcW8hAXvqvuolMaJudekkzscvsZyv u6PHNn4PakoC/Po/ktLnfV20C+WZrFAy1VRfm3RiG60907mu1A2RXuJTPivxKPaPste+ xyLQ== X-Received: by 10.180.87.165 with SMTP id az5mr30417983wib.10.1402329836995; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g9sm25560860wja.39.2014.06.09.09.03.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5395DAEB.8000007@xen.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 17:03:55 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> <53959F96.9010900@xen.org> <20140609153836.GA17834@laptop.dumpdata.com> In-Reply-To: <20140609153836.GA17834@laptop.dumpdata.com> Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Hackathon blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 09/06/2014 16:38, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 12:50:46PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: >> Hi all, >> we ought to put together a Hackathon event report. As I have not been there >> for a large portion of it, I would need a few quotres from people who >> attended. I have gotten none, which makes it a little challenging to out >> this together > We have been able to brainstorm and solve within an hour the problems > that on a mailing list would have taken weeks to solve. We go in a room, > hash out the problem, and in an hour we are all done with an excellent > design in mind. The rest - implementing - can now be done with the > right design in mind. Do you have a concrete example or two, that I may use? And you don't mind if I quote you. Doesn't sound as if Oracle approval was needed Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 09 16:04:02 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:04:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wu23F-00042H-MO; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:04:02 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wu23D-00042C-Ue for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:04:00 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:38998] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 91/FE-02781-EEAD5935; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:03:58 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1402329837!10086259!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.44] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11137 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2014 16:03:57 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f44.google.com) (74.125.82.44) by server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jun 2014 16:03:57 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id x13so3267476wgg.15 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:03:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aEo8DkWjTIDUREPf48+qEBsdSIaAWwZx1TQsQbSU6Hs=; b=BQmZHQGB3QshTLLH1HmIfNAeQUaV3VuR9QnW+B0KL97pX4gL+p0mE13rphBWYX7o0U U1rJeFrYvg4fq48+dlg19CiQ8J321xXQpQHYmWBk4ZJ8dpMPdGQYGraN+oBUivZS0lrZ ps7LqlyMz8pS51reoftArMTVpxL/tKgSvzakiRsqNPs9Zr7q6UXIGHOv/6+R8/sW1G3b M/S76jQD+LhS8ZlG/ssSc6Eg9w+Cy+MbR4aEoMbvcW8hAXvqvuolMaJudekkzscvsZyv u6PHNn4PakoC/Po/ktLnfV20C+WZrFAy1VRfm3RiG60907mu1A2RXuJTPivxKPaPste+ xyLQ== X-Received: by 10.180.87.165 with SMTP id az5mr30417983wib.10.1402329836995; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g9sm25560860wja.39.2014.06.09.09.03.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5395DAEB.8000007@xen.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 17:03:55 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> <53959F96.9010900@xen.org> <20140609153836.GA17834@laptop.dumpdata.com> In-Reply-To: <20140609153836.GA17834@laptop.dumpdata.com> Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Hackathon blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 09/06/2014 16:38, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 12:50:46PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: >> Hi all, >> we ought to put together a Hackathon event report. As I have not been there >> for a large portion of it, I would need a few quotres from people who >> attended. I have gotten none, which makes it a little challenging to out >> this together > We have been able to brainstorm and solve within an hour the problems > that on a mailing list would have taken weeks to solve. We go in a room, > hash out the problem, and in an hour we are all done with an excellent > design in mind. The rest - implementing - can now be done with the > right design in mind. Do you have a concrete example or two, that I may use? And you don't mind if I quote you. Doesn't sound as if Oracle approval was needed Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 09 16:46:37 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:46:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wu2iS-0004fW-NT; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:46:36 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wu2iR-0004fR-7O for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:46:35 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:45344] by server-1.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id FF/F2-01663-AE4E5935; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:46:34 +0000 X-Env-Sender: konrad.wilk@oracle.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1402332392!8907956!1 X-Originating-IP: [141.146.126.69] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTQxLjE0Ni4xMjYuNjkgPT4gMjc3MjE4\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 20534 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2014 16:46:33 -0000 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (HELO aserp1040.oracle.com) (141.146.126.69) by server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jun 2014 16:46:33 -0000 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s59GkVJd002975 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 9 Jun 2014 16:46:31 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s59GkTdS002458 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 9 Jun 2014 16:46:30 GMT Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s59GkT5l016266; Mon, 9 Jun 2014 16:46:29 GMT Received: from laptop.dumpdata.com (/50.195.21.189) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:46:29 -0700 Received: by laptop.dumpdata.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9F1189ED66; Mon, 9 Jun 2014 12:40:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 12:40:45 -0400 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk To: Lars Kurth , teri.whitaker@oracle.com Message-ID: <20140609164045.GC2275@laptop.dumpdata.com> References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> <53959F96.9010900@xen.org> <20140609153836.GA17834@laptop.dumpdata.com> <5395DAEB.8000007@xen.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5395DAEB.8000007@xen.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Hackathon blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 05:03:55PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 09/06/2014 16:38, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > >On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 12:50:46PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > >>Hi all, > >>we ought to put together a Hackathon event report. As I have not been there > >>for a large portion of it, I would need a few quotres from people who > >>attended. I have gotten none, which makes it a little challenging to out > >>this together > >We have been able to brainstorm and solve within an hour the problems > >that on a mailing list would have taken weeks to solve. We go in a room, > >hash out the problem, and in an hour we are all done with an excellent > >design in mind. The rest - implementing - can now be done with the > >right design in mind. > Do you have a concrete example or two, that I may use? And you don't mind if > I quote you. Doesn't sound as if Oracle approval was needed Sadly anything I say publicly has to go through the Oracle channels. CC-ing Teri. Pretty much all of the slots followed this format. The ones that I had an interest in were the "unification of PV and HVM paths" lead by Tim, and the "HVM PoD discussion" led by Jan. > > Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 09 16:46:37 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:46:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wu2iS-0004fW-NT; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:46:36 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wu2iR-0004fR-7O for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:46:35 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:45344] by server-1.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id FF/F2-01663-AE4E5935; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:46:34 +0000 X-Env-Sender: konrad.wilk@oracle.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1402332392!8907956!1 X-Originating-IP: [141.146.126.69] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTQxLjE0Ni4xMjYuNjkgPT4gMjc3MjE4\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 20534 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2014 16:46:33 -0000 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (HELO aserp1040.oracle.com) (141.146.126.69) by server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jun 2014 16:46:33 -0000 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s59GkVJd002975 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 9 Jun 2014 16:46:31 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s59GkTdS002458 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 9 Jun 2014 16:46:30 GMT Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s59GkT5l016266; Mon, 9 Jun 2014 16:46:29 GMT Received: from laptop.dumpdata.com (/50.195.21.189) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:46:29 -0700 Received: by laptop.dumpdata.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9F1189ED66; Mon, 9 Jun 2014 12:40:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 12:40:45 -0400 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk To: Lars Kurth , teri.whitaker@oracle.com Message-ID: <20140609164045.GC2275@laptop.dumpdata.com> References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> <53959F96.9010900@xen.org> <20140609153836.GA17834@laptop.dumpdata.com> <5395DAEB.8000007@xen.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5395DAEB.8000007@xen.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Hackathon blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 05:03:55PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 09/06/2014 16:38, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > >On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 12:50:46PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > >>Hi all, > >>we ought to put together a Hackathon event report. As I have not been there > >>for a large portion of it, I would need a few quotres from people who > >>attended. I have gotten none, which makes it a little challenging to out > >>this together > >We have been able to brainstorm and solve within an hour the problems > >that on a mailing list would have taken weeks to solve. We go in a room, > >hash out the problem, and in an hour we are all done with an excellent > >design in mind. The rest - implementing - can now be done with the > >right design in mind. > Do you have a concrete example or two, that I may use? And you don't mind if > I quote you. Doesn't sound as if Oracle approval was needed Sadly anything I say publicly has to go through the Oracle channels. CC-ing Teri. Pretty much all of the slots followed this format. The ones that I had an interest in were the "unification of PV and HVM paths" lead by Tim, and the "HVM PoD discussion" led by Jan. > > Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Jun 10 12:29:55 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:29:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuLBb-0000Ik-Pe; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:29:55 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuLBa-0000IC-Dw for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:29:54 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:27289] by server-9.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 86/58-30063-14AF6935; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:29:53 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1402403382!6702600!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNTAxMDQgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6754 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2014 12:29:44 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-14.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Jun 2014 12:29:44 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,1009,1392163200"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="141917423" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2014 12:29:42 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 08:29:41 -0400 Message-ID: <1402403380.16827.16.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:29:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: Boris Ostrovsky , publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post about Fedora Xen live CD X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5621842264364144352==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============5621842264364144352== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-kLyOKiW0U0xUWM+mC0yw" --=-kLyOKiW0U0xUWM+mC0yw Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On lun, 2014-06-09 at 05:19 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > On Jun 8, 2014 6:42 PM, Dario Faggioli > Just to let the list know, I've got the Fedora Xen LiveCD ready and=20 > > working. It's nothing super-hyper-cool, from a technical standpoint, bu= t=20 > > I was thinking, after having announced it to the relevant Fedora mailin= g=20 > > lists, to write a blog post about it (where to find it, how to customiz= e=20 > > and regenerate it, etc.) >=20 > Yes! I would very much enjoy that and it would also help in tracking some= bugs down (I presume the installer initrd gets created dynamically)? >=20 Well, yes and no. I guess it depends on what you mean by 'installer initrd'. So, as far as I've understood that kickstart+livecd-creator thing, what happens is it creates a chroot where a set of specific RPM packages are installed, some modification to the configuration ins done, and then it compresses everything into a squashfs image and build up the liveCD structure (to make it bootable, etc). So, yes, indeed what gets into the live image is dynamically generated. Right now (as you probably have seen on the e-mail I sent to fedora-xen and xen-users), the hypervisor and dom0 kernel image being booted are just the same one that you find in F20 (although, the most updated copy of it, e.g., taking updates-testing and virt-preview into account). If you want something different, like a custom build of Xen (or Linux) of your own, well, that is probably doable, but I'm not there yet, mostly because I'm not sure about a few 'design' aspects. If that is the case, I think we can continue this conversation on the tech lists and try to move forward. :-) As per the blog post, I'll cut it out, mostly basing on the content that it's in the email I was talking about above, and it will be ready for review by tomorrow EOB. Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-kLyOKiW0U0xUWM+mC0yw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlOW+jQACgkQk4XaBE3IOsQDkQCgpXw6aFImracWthQTbORI9ORj DlYAoKHITj/2OoBRuuIsMUSFA7kozPUJ =Jx5Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-kLyOKiW0U0xUWM+mC0yw-- --===============5621842264364144352== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============5621842264364144352==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Jun 10 12:29:55 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:29:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuLBb-0000Ik-Pe; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:29:55 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuLBa-0000IC-Dw for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:29:54 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:27289] by server-9.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 86/58-30063-14AF6935; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:29:53 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1402403382!6702600!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNTAxMDQgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6754 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2014 12:29:44 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-14.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Jun 2014 12:29:44 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,1009,1392163200"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="141917423" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2014 12:29:42 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 08:29:41 -0400 Message-ID: <1402403380.16827.16.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:29:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: Boris Ostrovsky , publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post about Fedora Xen live CD X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5621842264364144352==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============5621842264364144352== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-kLyOKiW0U0xUWM+mC0yw" --=-kLyOKiW0U0xUWM+mC0yw Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On lun, 2014-06-09 at 05:19 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > On Jun 8, 2014 6:42 PM, Dario Faggioli > Just to let the list know, I've got the Fedora Xen LiveCD ready and=20 > > working. It's nothing super-hyper-cool, from a technical standpoint, bu= t=20 > > I was thinking, after having announced it to the relevant Fedora mailin= g=20 > > lists, to write a blog post about it (where to find it, how to customiz= e=20 > > and regenerate it, etc.) >=20 > Yes! I would very much enjoy that and it would also help in tracking some= bugs down (I presume the installer initrd gets created dynamically)? >=20 Well, yes and no. I guess it depends on what you mean by 'installer initrd'. So, as far as I've understood that kickstart+livecd-creator thing, what happens is it creates a chroot where a set of specific RPM packages are installed, some modification to the configuration ins done, and then it compresses everything into a squashfs image and build up the liveCD structure (to make it bootable, etc). So, yes, indeed what gets into the live image is dynamically generated. Right now (as you probably have seen on the e-mail I sent to fedora-xen and xen-users), the hypervisor and dom0 kernel image being booted are just the same one that you find in F20 (although, the most updated copy of it, e.g., taking updates-testing and virt-preview into account). If you want something different, like a custom build of Xen (or Linux) of your own, well, that is probably doable, but I'm not there yet, mostly because I'm not sure about a few 'design' aspects. If that is the case, I think we can continue this conversation on the tech lists and try to move forward. :-) As per the blog post, I'll cut it out, mostly basing on the content that it's in the email I was talking about above, and it will be ready for review by tomorrow EOB. Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-kLyOKiW0U0xUWM+mC0yw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlOW+jQACgkQk4XaBE3IOsQDkQCgpXw6aFImracWthQTbORI9ORj DlYAoKHITj/2OoBRuuIsMUSFA7kozPUJ =Jx5Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-kLyOKiW0U0xUWM+mC0yw-- --===============5621842264364144352== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============5621842264364144352==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Jun 10 13:32:33 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:32:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuMAD-0005EM-F7; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:32:33 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuMAC-0005EF-M8 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:32:32 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:61622] by server-9.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 9C/4C-03644-0F807935; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:32:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: konrad.wilk@oracle.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1402407149!5687235!1 X-Originating-IP: [141.146.126.69] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTQxLjE0Ni4xMjYuNjkgPT4gMjc3MjE4\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 24736 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2014 13:32:31 -0000 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (HELO aserp1040.oracle.com) (141.146.126.69) by server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Jun 2014 13:32:31 -0000 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s5ADWRac010866 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:32:28 GMT Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5ADWPvG002881 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:32:27 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5ADWOXx029899; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:32:24 GMT Received: from laptop.dumpdata.com (/172.56.23.32) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 06:32:23 -0700 Received: by laptop.dumpdata.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6F9FF9F220; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:32:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:32:22 -0400 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk To: Dario Faggioli Message-ID: <20140610133222.GG28932@laptop.dumpdata.com> References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> <1402403380.16827.16.camel@Solace> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1402403380.16827.16.camel@Solace> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] Cc: Boris Ostrovsky , publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post about Fedora Xen live CD X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 02:29:40PM +0200, Dario Faggioli wrote: > On lun, 2014-06-09 at 05:19 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > > On Jun 8, 2014 6:42 PM, Dario Faggioli > > > Just to let the list know, I've got the Fedora Xen LiveCD ready and > > > working. It's nothing super-hyper-cool, from a technical standpoint, but > > > I was thinking, after having announced it to the relevant Fedora mailing > > > lists, to write a blog post about it (where to find it, how to customize > > > and regenerate it, etc.) > > > > Yes! I would very much enjoy that and it would also help in tracking some bugs down (I presume the installer initrd gets created dynamically)? > > > Well, yes and no. I guess it depends on what you mean by 'installer > initrd'. So, as far as I've understood that kickstart+livecd-creator > thing, what happens is it creates a chroot where a set of specific RPM > packages are installed, some modification to the configuration ins done, > and then it compresses everything into a squashfs image and build up the > liveCD structure (to make it bootable, etc). > > So, yes, indeed what gets into the live image is dynamically generated. > > Right now (as you probably have seen on the e-mail I sent to fedora-xen > and xen-users), the hypervisor and dom0 kernel image being booted are > just the same one that you find in F20 (although, the most updated copy > of it, e.g., taking updates-testing and virt-preview into account). > > If you want something different, like a custom build of Xen (or Linux) > of your own, well, that is probably doable, but I'm not there yet, > mostly because I'm not sure about a few 'design' aspects. That is easily solved - I build the RPMs outside of this chroot and point the kickstart to use my repo. And even better - koji exists which makes it even easier to build the RPMs. > > If that is the case, I think we can continue this conversation on the > tech lists and try to move forward. :-) > > As per the blog post, I'll cut it out, mostly basing on the content that > it's in the email I was talking about above, and it will be ready for > review by tomorrow EOB. > > Regards, > Dario > > -- > <> (Raistlin Majere) > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli > Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Jun 10 13:32:33 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:32:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuMAD-0005EM-F7; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:32:33 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuMAC-0005EF-M8 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:32:32 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:61622] by server-9.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 9C/4C-03644-0F807935; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:32:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: konrad.wilk@oracle.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1402407149!5687235!1 X-Originating-IP: [141.146.126.69] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTQxLjE0Ni4xMjYuNjkgPT4gMjc3MjE4\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 24736 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2014 13:32:31 -0000 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (HELO aserp1040.oracle.com) (141.146.126.69) by server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Jun 2014 13:32:31 -0000 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s5ADWRac010866 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:32:28 GMT Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5ADWPvG002881 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:32:27 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5ADWOXx029899; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:32:24 GMT Received: from laptop.dumpdata.com (/172.56.23.32) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 06:32:23 -0700 Received: by laptop.dumpdata.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6F9FF9F220; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:32:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:32:22 -0400 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk To: Dario Faggioli Message-ID: <20140610133222.GG28932@laptop.dumpdata.com> References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> <1402403380.16827.16.camel@Solace> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1402403380.16827.16.camel@Solace> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] Cc: Boris Ostrovsky , publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post about Fedora Xen live CD X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 02:29:40PM +0200, Dario Faggioli wrote: > On lun, 2014-06-09 at 05:19 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > > On Jun 8, 2014 6:42 PM, Dario Faggioli > > > Just to let the list know, I've got the Fedora Xen LiveCD ready and > > > working. It's nothing super-hyper-cool, from a technical standpoint, but > > > I was thinking, after having announced it to the relevant Fedora mailing > > > lists, to write a blog post about it (where to find it, how to customize > > > and regenerate it, etc.) > > > > Yes! I would very much enjoy that and it would also help in tracking some bugs down (I presume the installer initrd gets created dynamically)? > > > Well, yes and no. I guess it depends on what you mean by 'installer > initrd'. So, as far as I've understood that kickstart+livecd-creator > thing, what happens is it creates a chroot where a set of specific RPM > packages are installed, some modification to the configuration ins done, > and then it compresses everything into a squashfs image and build up the > liveCD structure (to make it bootable, etc). > > So, yes, indeed what gets into the live image is dynamically generated. > > Right now (as you probably have seen on the e-mail I sent to fedora-xen > and xen-users), the hypervisor and dom0 kernel image being booted are > just the same one that you find in F20 (although, the most updated copy > of it, e.g., taking updates-testing and virt-preview into account). > > If you want something different, like a custom build of Xen (or Linux) > of your own, well, that is probably doable, but I'm not there yet, > mostly because I'm not sure about a few 'design' aspects. That is easily solved - I build the RPMs outside of this chroot and point the kickstart to use my repo. And even better - koji exists which makes it even easier to build the RPMs. > > If that is the case, I think we can continue this conversation on the > tech lists and try to move forward. :-) > > As per the blog post, I'll cut it out, mostly basing on the content that > it's in the email I was talking about above, and it will be ready for > review by tomorrow EOB. > > Regards, > Dario > > -- > <> (Raistlin Majere) > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli > Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Jun 10 13:59:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:59:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuMaH-0007mH-V7; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:59:29 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuMaG-0007lo-Ou for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:59:28 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:9997] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id F8/CF-09853-04F07935; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:59:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1402408767!10440731!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.174] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9379 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2014 13:59:27 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f174.google.com) (209.85.212.174) by server-12.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Jun 2014 13:59:27 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id r20so6225991wiv.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 06:59:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1yX7olrAYG9Gc/l9u92r+lqTaC+pxKm/RFQKNSflFMo=; b=p8HL2Uz3ZGO1qFqTge7DGZxAUys4FmeeXfP0XOlqQTSF/+YztmZDvmCfFPTa+KLIiM 4eTM/x4nmmMDU9S1syENUx4DLKpw3jMrCVz1BtW9ilS4OC3I76PP2m76R8/khhCgqD3Q YeaL0YRhJ7y75zPPj7bgf2KWs69dq8rU+qoW52LZ1EMI0AA7soRYmdHqLotVIbvtkuJ/ IvundndQZnqfOyDnxEEEKe2wq1UDtA9aMKyh+uqtHaQY1jd0kUMqzD7H4xO3aL72WOOK nbnXL3dIKJsacLbDL0ZMIiZoLvkmeRa/D8MGdBMRe6554zdmLk3Ex8SuHnrZ6U/nyMq6 BybA== X-Received: by 10.194.90.77 with SMTP id bu13mr4945361wjb.92.1402408766989; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 06:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id wj4sm29746227wjc.23.2014.06.10.06.59.25 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Jun 2014 06:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53970F3B.50600@xen.org> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:59:23 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk , teri.whitaker@oracle.com References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> <53959F96.9010900@xen.org> <20140609153836.GA17834@laptop.dumpdata.com> <5395DAEB.8000007@xen.org> <20140609164045.GC2275@laptop.dumpdata.com> In-Reply-To: <20140609164045.GC2275@laptop.dumpdata.com> Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Hackathon blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 09/06/2014 17:40, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 05:03:55PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: >> On 09/06/2014 16:38, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 12:50:46PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> we ought to put together a Hackathon event report. As I have not been there >>>> for a large portion of it, I would need a few quotres from people who >>>> attended. I have gotten none, which makes it a little challenging to out >>>> this together >>> We have been able to brainstorm and solve within an hour the problems >>> that on a mailing list would have taken weeks to solve. We go in a room, >>> hash out the problem, and in an hour we are all done with an excellent >>> design in mind. The rest - implementing - can now be done with the >>> right design in mind. >> Do you have a concrete example or two, that I may use? And you don't mind if >> I quote you. Doesn't sound as if Oracle approval was needed > Sadly anything I say publicly has to go through the Oracle channels. > CC-ing Teri. > > Pretty much all of the slots followed this format. The ones that I had > an interest in were the "unification of PV and HVM paths" lead by Tim, > and the "HVM PoD discussion" led by Jan. @Konrad: what if I said, one of the Hackathon attendeesn said"". Then we can get around the approval issue. 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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id wj4sm29746227wjc.23.2014.06.10.06.59.25 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Jun 2014 06:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53970F3B.50600@xen.org> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:59:23 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk , teri.whitaker@oracle.com References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> <53959F96.9010900@xen.org> <20140609153836.GA17834@laptop.dumpdata.com> <5395DAEB.8000007@xen.org> <20140609164045.GC2275@laptop.dumpdata.com> In-Reply-To: <20140609164045.GC2275@laptop.dumpdata.com> Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Hackathon blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 09/06/2014 17:40, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 05:03:55PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: >> On 09/06/2014 16:38, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 12:50:46PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> we ought to put together a Hackathon event report. As I have not been there >>>> for a large portion of it, I would need a few quotres from people who >>>> attended. I have gotten none, which makes it a little challenging to out >>>> this together >>> We have been able to brainstorm and solve within an hour the problems >>> that on a mailing list would have taken weeks to solve. We go in a room, >>> hash out the problem, and in an hour we are all done with an excellent >>> design in mind. The rest - implementing - can now be done with the >>> right design in mind. >> Do you have a concrete example or two, that I may use? And you don't mind if >> I quote you. Doesn't sound as if Oracle approval was needed > Sadly anything I say publicly has to go through the Oracle channels. > CC-ing Teri. > > Pretty much all of the slots followed this format. The ones that I had > an interest in were the "unification of PV and HVM paths" lead by Tim, > and the "HVM PoD discussion" led by Jan. @Konrad: what if I said, one of the Hackathon attendeesn said"". Then we can get around the approval issue. I want to put a post out tomorrow Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Jun 10 20:43:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:43:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuStZ-0006jO-FX; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:43:49 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuStY-0006jJ-37 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:43:48 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:30995] by server-3.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id F9/D3-22179-20E67935; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:43:46 +0000 X-Env-Sender: konrad.wilk@oracle.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1402433024!10393683!1 X-Originating-IP: [156.151.31.81] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTU2LjE1MS4zMS44MSA9PiAyODgzMzk=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5237 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2014 20:43:45 -0000 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (HELO userp1040.oracle.com) (156.151.31.81) by server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Jun 2014 20:43:45 -0000 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s5AKhgFI004748 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:43:43 GMT Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5AKheFU019895 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:43:41 GMT Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5AKhdU9000638; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:43:40 GMT Received: from laptop.dumpdata.com (/50.195.21.189) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:43:39 -0700 Received: by laptop.dumpdata.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C1E5D9F6C2; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 16:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 16:43:38 -0400 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk To: Lars Kurth Message-ID: <20140610204338.GA22951@laptop.dumpdata.com> References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> <53959F96.9010900@xen.org> <20140609153836.GA17834@laptop.dumpdata.com> <5395DAEB.8000007@xen.org> <20140609164045.GC2275@laptop.dumpdata.com> <53970F3B.50600@xen.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53970F3B.50600@xen.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] Cc: teri.whitaker@oracle.com, publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Hackathon blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 02:59:23PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 09/06/2014 17:40, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > >On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 05:03:55PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > >>On 09/06/2014 16:38, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > >>>On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 12:50:46PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > >>>>Hi all, > >>>>we ought to put together a Hackathon event report. As I have not been there > >>>>for a large portion of it, I would need a few quotres from people who > >>>>attended. I have gotten none, which makes it a little challenging to out > >>>>this together > >>>We have been able to brainstorm and solve within an hour the problems > >>>that on a mailing list would have taken weeks to solve. We go in a room, > >>>hash out the problem, and in an hour we are all done with an excellent > >>>design in mind. The rest - implementing - can now be done with the > >>>right design in mind. > >>Do you have a concrete example or two, that I may use? And you don't mind if > >>I quote you. Doesn't sound as if Oracle approval was needed > >Sadly anything I say publicly has to go through the Oracle channels. > >CC-ing Teri. > > > >Pretty much all of the slots followed this format. The ones that I had > >an interest in were the "unification of PV and HVM paths" lead by Tim, > >and the "HVM PoD discussion" led by Jan. > @Konrad: what if I said, one of the Hackathon attendeesn said"". Then > we can get around the approval issue. I want to put a post out tomorrow Yes. > Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Jun 10 20:43:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:43:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuStZ-0006jO-FX; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:43:49 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuStY-0006jJ-37 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:43:48 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:30995] by server-3.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id F9/D3-22179-20E67935; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:43:46 +0000 X-Env-Sender: konrad.wilk@oracle.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1402433024!10393683!1 X-Originating-IP: [156.151.31.81] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTU2LjE1MS4zMS44MSA9PiAyODgzMzk=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5237 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2014 20:43:45 -0000 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (HELO userp1040.oracle.com) (156.151.31.81) by server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Jun 2014 20:43:45 -0000 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s5AKhgFI004748 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:43:43 GMT Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5AKheFU019895 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:43:41 GMT Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5AKhdU9000638; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:43:40 GMT Received: from laptop.dumpdata.com (/50.195.21.189) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:43:39 -0700 Received: by laptop.dumpdata.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C1E5D9F6C2; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 16:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 16:43:38 -0400 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk To: Lars Kurth Message-ID: <20140610204338.GA22951@laptop.dumpdata.com> References: <201406090919.s599Jdrd008731@userz7021.oracle.com> <53959F96.9010900@xen.org> <20140609153836.GA17834@laptop.dumpdata.com> <5395DAEB.8000007@xen.org> <20140609164045.GC2275@laptop.dumpdata.com> <53970F3B.50600@xen.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53970F3B.50600@xen.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] Cc: teri.whitaker@oracle.com, publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Hackathon blog post X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 02:59:23PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 09/06/2014 17:40, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > >On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 05:03:55PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > >>On 09/06/2014 16:38, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > >>>On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 12:50:46PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > >>>>Hi all, > >>>>we ought to put together a Hackathon event report. As I have not been there > >>>>for a large portion of it, I would need a few quotres from people who > >>>>attended. I have gotten none, which makes it a little challenging to out > >>>>this together > >>>We have been able to brainstorm and solve within an hour the problems > >>>that on a mailing list would have taken weeks to solve. We go in a room, > >>>hash out the problem, and in an hour we are all done with an excellent > >>>design in mind. The rest - implementing - can now be done with the > >>>right design in mind. > >>Do you have a concrete example or two, that I may use? And you don't mind if > >>I quote you. Doesn't sound as if Oracle approval was needed > >Sadly anything I say publicly has to go through the Oracle channels. > >CC-ing Teri. > > > >Pretty much all of the slots followed this format. The ones that I had > >an interest in were the "unification of PV and HVM paths" lead by Tim, > >and the "HVM PoD discussion" led by Jan. > @Konrad: what if I said, one of the Hackathon attendeesn said"". Then > we can get around the approval issue. I want to put a post out tomorrow Yes. > Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Jun 11 08:09:46 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 08:09:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WudbN-000346-Uf; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 08:09:45 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WudbM-00033i-Si for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 08:09:45 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:32843] by server-8.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 82/58-21547-8CE08935; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 08:09:44 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1402474181!9366461!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , surbl: (ASYNC_NO) c3VyYmxfcmVjaGVja19kZWxheTogMCAoYWJhbmRv bmVkOiBhYm91dC5tZS9kYXJpby5mYWdnaW9s\naSk=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; 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boundary="===============3691105212926001515==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3691105212926001515== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-w+SV5rRZnp4dN2Dq8Wca" --=-w+SV5rRZnp4dN2Dq8Wca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On mar, 2014-06-10 at 09:32 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 02:29:40PM +0200, Dario Faggioli wrote: > > If you want something different, like a custom build of Xen (or Linux) > > of your own, well, that is probably doable, but I'm not there yet, > > mostly because I'm not sure about a few 'design' aspects. >=20 > That is easily solved - I build the RPMs outside of this chroot > and point the kickstart to use my repo. >=20 Indeed, if your custom build results in producing RPMs, that's a non issue. :-) Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-w+SV5rRZnp4dN2Dq8Wca Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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boundary="===============3691105212926001515==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3691105212926001515== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-w+SV5rRZnp4dN2Dq8Wca" --=-w+SV5rRZnp4dN2Dq8Wca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On mar, 2014-06-10 at 09:32 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 02:29:40PM +0200, Dario Faggioli wrote: > > If you want something different, like a custom build of Xen (or Linux) > > of your own, well, that is probably doable, but I'm not there yet, > > mostly because I'm not sure about a few 'design' aspects. >=20 > That is easily solved - I build the RPMs outside of this chroot > and point the kickstart to use my repo. >=20 Indeed, if your custom build results in producing RPMs, that's a non issue. :-) Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-w+SV5rRZnp4dN2Dq8Wca Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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boundary="===============8379324313329850449==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============8379324313329850449== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020403050706050507090204" --------------020403050706050507090204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/05/2014 10:25 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > George, > > a great post. Some comments > > Generally, adding subheadings will help. They are already in the > title: Risk, intuition, and freeze exceptions Let me see what I can do. > You may also want to link to my recent blog post You mean the release process one? Good idea. > > > "I have three goals when doing release management. In order:" > The "in order" as a separate sentence seems somewhat odd and > interrupts the flow. Also I would emphasize () bug free, > awesome, on-time throughout the document Good idea. > > > Paragraph "One of the most time-consuming aspects ..." > This paragraph is slightly convoluted. I would try and break up some > of the sentences. Also, I would emphasize the goals as said above, > e.g. more awesome and leave out the #2 OK, let me see what I can do. > > > "Making decisions about accepting or rejecting patches as release > coordinator is about making calculated risks: > making calculated risks=taking calculated risks=calculating risk > I think you used this phrase throughout the document > > > look at the benefits, look at the potential costs, look at the > probabilities, and try to make the best balance you can out of them." > I would bulletize this list > > > "risks won't pay off" > taking? "risks won't pay off" > > > "You may approve a patch to go in, and it will then turn out to have > a bug in it which delays the release." > I think that is a bad example for "taking a risk not paying off". A > better example would be if taking in a patch wont have the desired > effect (e.g. another piece for feature foo was still missing and > didn't make it). In this example, the risk merely materialized. You > may want to look at this paragraph again No, having bugs is THE risk. There are *exactly* two costs of adding extra code: 1) making the Xen binary slightly larger, and 2) introducing the possibility of bugs. Making the binary larger costs hardly anything; the slightest potential benefit outweighs it. It's introducing bugs that is the major risk to accepting any patches during a feature freeze. I think maybe the problem is that normally we think of something "paying off" in a situation where you have a low probability for a big win, and a high probability of nothing. In this case, we have a high-probability small win, and a low-probability big loss. Unfortunately I'm not sure I have a better English phrase for that situation. And in any case, I want to help people to "think like a poker player" and accept the risk of loss as just part of the process. > > Now, research has shown that the intuition of experts can > It would be good to link to that research It came mostly from one of the books I mention at the bottom, "Thinking, Fast and Slow". I'll see if I can figure out how to refer to it properly. > > > One of the key ways > "key was" soudns stylistically odd > > Just a general thought: On the risk side of patches dow e make use of > coverity scan to check whether anything has become worse? We don't scan after each patch, but I think we continue our regular scans as we near the release, so yes, it should flag up certain classes of bugs. > > You should link to the books. As an aside, the title covers "freeze > exceptions" but only skims over the subject it indirectly I guess I mean, "Risk and intuition when making freeze exceptions". In that sense, the entire article is about freeze exceptions. :-) But maybe a brief description would be good. I'll let you know when I have a revised version. -George --------------020403050706050507090204 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 06/05/2014 10:25 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
George,

a great post. Some comments

Generally, adding subheadings will help. They are already in the title: Risk, intuition, and freeze exceptions

Let me see what I can do.

You may also want to link to my recent blog post

You mean the release process one?  Good idea.


> "I have three goals when doing release management.  In order:"
The "in order" as a separate sentence seems somewhat odd and interrupts the flow. Also I would emphasize (<em></em>) bug free, awesome, on-time throughout the document

Good idea.


> Paragraph "One of the most time-consuming aspects ..."
This paragraph is slightly convoluted. I would try and break up some of the sentences. Also, I would emphasize the goals as said above, e.g. <em>more awesome</em> and leave out the #2

OK, let me see what I can do.


> "Making decisions about accepting or rejecting patches as release coordinator is about making calculated risks:
making calculated risks=taking calculated risks=calculating risk
I think you used this phrase throughout the document

> look at the benefits, look at the potential costs, look at the probabilities, and try to make the best balance you can out of them."
I would bulletize this list

> "risks won't pay off"
taking? "risks won't pay off"

> "You may approve a patch to go in, and it will then turn out to have a bug in it which delays the release."
I think that is a bad example for "taking a risk not paying off". A better example would be if taking in a patch wont have the desired effect (e.g. another piece for feature foo was still missing and didn't make it). In this example, the risk merely materialized. You may want to look at this paragraph again

No, having bugs is THE risk.  There are *exactly* two costs of adding extra code: 1) making the Xen binary slightly larger, and 2) introducing the possibility of bugs.  Making the binary larger costs hardly anything; the slightest potential benefit outweighs it.  It's introducing bugs that is the major risk to accepting any patches during a feature freeze.

I think maybe the problem is that normally we think of something "paying off" in a situation where you have a low probability for a big win, and a high probability of nothing.  In this case, we have a high-probability small win, and a low-probability big loss.  Unfortunately I'm not sure I have a better English phrase for that situation.  And in any case, I want to help people to "think like a poker player" and accept the risk of loss as just part of the process.

> Now, research has shown that the intuition of experts can
It would be good to link to that research

It came mostly from one of the books I mention at the bottom, "Thinking, Fast and Slow".  I'll see if I can figure out how to refer to it properly.


> One of the key ways
"key was" soudns stylistically odd

Just a general thought: On the risk side of patches dow e make use of coverity scan to check whether anything has become worse?

We don't scan after each patch, but I think we continue our regular scans as we near the release, so yes, it should flag up certain classes of bugs.


You should link to the books. As an aside, the title covers "freeze exceptions" but only skims over the subject it indirectly

I guess I mean, "Risk and intuition when making freeze exceptions".  In that sense, the entire article is about freeze exceptions. :-)

But maybe a brief description would be good.

I'll let you know when I have a revised version.

 -George
--------------020403050706050507090204-- --===============8379324313329850449== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============8379324313329850449==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Jun 11 13:54:38 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 13:54:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wuiz8-0007Z3-5Y; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 13:54:38 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wuiz6-0007Yv-U5 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 13:54:37 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:30743] by server-6.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id EB/77-19576-C9F58935; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 13:54:36 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1402494872!9372905!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 3948 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2014 13:54:34 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 11 Jun 2014 13:54:34 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,458,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="142473757" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2014 13:54:32 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 09:54:31 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wuiz1-0001yt-6b; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 14:54:31 +0100 Message-ID: <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 14:53:54 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <53903793.1060108@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8379324313329850449==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============8379324313329850449== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020403050706050507090204" --------------020403050706050507090204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/05/2014 10:25 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > George, > > a great post. Some comments > > Generally, adding subheadings will help. They are already in the > title: Risk, intuition, and freeze exceptions Let me see what I can do. > You may also want to link to my recent blog post You mean the release process one? Good idea. > > > "I have three goals when doing release management. In order:" > The "in order" as a separate sentence seems somewhat odd and > interrupts the flow. Also I would emphasize () bug free, > awesome, on-time throughout the document Good idea. > > > Paragraph "One of the most time-consuming aspects ..." > This paragraph is slightly convoluted. I would try and break up some > of the sentences. Also, I would emphasize the goals as said above, > e.g. more awesome and leave out the #2 OK, let me see what I can do. > > > "Making decisions about accepting or rejecting patches as release > coordinator is about making calculated risks: > making calculated risks=taking calculated risks=calculating risk > I think you used this phrase throughout the document > > > look at the benefits, look at the potential costs, look at the > probabilities, and try to make the best balance you can out of them." > I would bulletize this list > > > "risks won't pay off" > taking? "risks won't pay off" > > > "You may approve a patch to go in, and it will then turn out to have > a bug in it which delays the release." > I think that is a bad example for "taking a risk not paying off". A > better example would be if taking in a patch wont have the desired > effect (e.g. another piece for feature foo was still missing and > didn't make it). In this example, the risk merely materialized. You > may want to look at this paragraph again No, having bugs is THE risk. There are *exactly* two costs of adding extra code: 1) making the Xen binary slightly larger, and 2) introducing the possibility of bugs. Making the binary larger costs hardly anything; the slightest potential benefit outweighs it. It's introducing bugs that is the major risk to accepting any patches during a feature freeze. I think maybe the problem is that normally we think of something "paying off" in a situation where you have a low probability for a big win, and a high probability of nothing. In this case, we have a high-probability small win, and a low-probability big loss. Unfortunately I'm not sure I have a better English phrase for that situation. And in any case, I want to help people to "think like a poker player" and accept the risk of loss as just part of the process. > > Now, research has shown that the intuition of experts can > It would be good to link to that research It came mostly from one of the books I mention at the bottom, "Thinking, Fast and Slow". I'll see if I can figure out how to refer to it properly. > > > One of the key ways > "key was" soudns stylistically odd > > Just a general thought: On the risk side of patches dow e make use of > coverity scan to check whether anything has become worse? We don't scan after each patch, but I think we continue our regular scans as we near the release, so yes, it should flag up certain classes of bugs. > > You should link to the books. As an aside, the title covers "freeze > exceptions" but only skims over the subject it indirectly I guess I mean, "Risk and intuition when making freeze exceptions". In that sense, the entire article is about freeze exceptions. :-) But maybe a brief description would be good. I'll let you know when I have a revised version. -George --------------020403050706050507090204 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 06/05/2014 10:25 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
George,

a great post. Some comments

Generally, adding subheadings will help. They are already in the title: Risk, intuition, and freeze exceptions

Let me see what I can do.

You may also want to link to my recent blog post

You mean the release process one?  Good idea.


> "I have three goals when doing release management.  In order:"
The "in order" as a separate sentence seems somewhat odd and interrupts the flow. Also I would emphasize (<em></em>) bug free, awesome, on-time throughout the document

Good idea.


> Paragraph "One of the most time-consuming aspects ..."
This paragraph is slightly convoluted. I would try and break up some of the sentences. Also, I would emphasize the goals as said above, e.g. <em>more awesome</em> and leave out the #2

OK, let me see what I can do.


> "Making decisions about accepting or rejecting patches as release coordinator is about making calculated risks:
making calculated risks=taking calculated risks=calculating risk
I think you used this phrase throughout the document

> look at the benefits, look at the potential costs, look at the probabilities, and try to make the best balance you can out of them."
I would bulletize this list

> "risks won't pay off"
taking? "risks won't pay off"

> "You may approve a patch to go in, and it will then turn out to have a bug in it which delays the release."
I think that is a bad example for "taking a risk not paying off". A better example would be if taking in a patch wont have the desired effect (e.g. another piece for feature foo was still missing and didn't make it). In this example, the risk merely materialized. You may want to look at this paragraph again

No, having bugs is THE risk.  There are *exactly* two costs of adding extra code: 1) making the Xen binary slightly larger, and 2) introducing the possibility of bugs.  Making the binary larger costs hardly anything; the slightest potential benefit outweighs it.  It's introducing bugs that is the major risk to accepting any patches during a feature freeze.

I think maybe the problem is that normally we think of something "paying off" in a situation where you have a low probability for a big win, and a high probability of nothing.  In this case, we have a high-probability small win, and a low-probability big loss.  Unfortunately I'm not sure I have a better English phrase for that situation.  And in any case, I want to help people to "think like a poker player" and accept the risk of loss as just part of the process.

> Now, research has shown that the intuition of experts can
It would be good to link to that research

It came mostly from one of the books I mention at the bottom, "Thinking, Fast and Slow".  I'll see if I can figure out how to refer to it properly.


> One of the key ways
"key was" soudns stylistically odd

Just a general thought: On the risk side of patches dow e make use of coverity scan to check whether anything has become worse?

We don't scan after each patch, but I think we continue our regular scans as we near the release, so yes, it should flag up certain classes of bugs.


You should link to the books. As an aside, the title covers "freeze exceptions" but only skims over the subject it indirectly

I guess I mean, "Risk and intuition when making freeze exceptions".  In that sense, the entire article is about freeze exceptions. :-)

But maybe a brief description would be good.

I'll let you know when I have a revised version.

 -George
--------------020403050706050507090204-- --===============8379324313329850449== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============8379324313329850449==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Jun 11 16:12:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:12:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wul8O-0006Ye-0k; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:12:20 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wul8L-0006YN-Ns for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:12:17 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:49379] by server-9.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id C0/96-30063-1EF78935; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:12:17 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1402503134!9472956!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11100 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2014 16:12:16 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-16.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 11 Jun 2014 16:12:16 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,459,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="142542432" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2014 16:12:13 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12:12:13 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wul8H-0004Fo-5w for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:12:13 +0100 Message-ID: <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:11:35 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> X-DLP: MIA2 Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0194711900295079399==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============0194711900295079399== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040602090401080504090607" --------------040602090401080504090607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/11/2014 02:53 PM, George Dunlap wrote: > > I'll let you know when I have a revised version. OK, I have the revised version: http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true Did you have a suggested place to link the books? I didn't want to link to Amazon. -George --------------040602090401080504090607 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 06/11/2014 02:53 PM, George Dunlap wrote:

I'll let you know when I have a revised version.

OK, I have the revised version:

http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true

Did you have a suggested place to link the books?  I didn't want to link to Amazon.

 -George
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On 06/11/2014 02:53 PM, George Dunlap wrote:

I'll let you know when I have a revised version.

OK, I have the revised version:

http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true

Did you have a suggested place to link the books?  I didn't want to link to Amazon.

 -George
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On 11/06/2014 17:11, George Dunlap wrote:
OK, I have the revised version:

http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true
Looks great

Did you have a suggested place to link the books?  I didn't want to link to Amazon.
At the bottom works. You could link to
The other two  books are on "good reads" too or search for book-name review to find a review of the book such that you dont have to link to Amazon, if you dont want to

Lars
--------------010808060200000600020603-- --===============8793789123412424043== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============8793789123412424043==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Jun 11 16:27:04 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:27:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WulMe-0007Hr-Az; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:27:04 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WulMc-0007Hd-BD for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:27:02 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:54311] by server-12.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 3E/60-27473-55388935; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:27:01 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1402503997!5999681!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 10764 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2014 16:26:37 -0000 Received: from mail-we0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-we0-f171.google.com) (74.125.82.171) by server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 11 Jun 2014 16:26:37 -0000 Received: by mail-we0-f171.google.com with SMTP id q58so5693518wes.2 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 09:26:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=255rhKE4T8+ylEk/yhJPXNEztwCb8+IK4nlnjRnqcqU=; b=ITiTwkufayTENH69L2lWRLighVVGkn4j1eTC3pHOk2la7ndDnvw6aW/xRnH+/9oyFY ZelQM/mkHpOj41qS/uIeTEZfnkTrYlKz4PULbujxE6kf6q22/IrpQV+n1kxp4729ghdq e3+nDmEUm1VDUeYf80KECLbEekxBtJHiatdmtGEThLkboUcmqp/HhS2Nu3D6cUs8LqBr y/wdsmq3pC4Bi7gJDZ+oeJPVYksBDrGlbbZuc9EPc0b/vx0/6oiKU7bCL4iSYfXkKaoZ oW1PbUQQJgeAfGP4VhGMOntk2iWpe4SZ1tVuZ2cKliHWLe2SzfpCxma0E3hfbyuA+a2n hiUA== X-Received: by 10.194.57.208 with SMTP id k16mr52683979wjq.51.1402503997272; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 09:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jy8sm33742201wjc.7.2014.06.11.09.26.36 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Jun 2014 09:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:26:35 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8793789123412424043==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8793789123412424043== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010808060200000600020603" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010808060200000600020603 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/06/2014 17:11, George Dunlap wrote: > OK, I have the revised version: > > http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true Looks great > > Did you have a suggested place to link the books? I didn't want to > link to Amazon. At the bottom works. You could link to * http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11468377-thinking-fast-and-slow * http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/27/books/review/thinking-fast-and-slow-by-daniel-kahneman-book-review.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 * http://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/dec/13/thinking-fast-slow-daniel-kahneman The other two books are on "good reads" too or search for book-name review to find a review of the book such that you dont have to link to Amazon, if you dont want to Lars --------------010808060200000600020603 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 11/06/2014 17:11, George Dunlap wrote:
OK, I have the revised version:

http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true
Looks great

Did you have a suggested place to link the books?  I didn't want to link to Amazon.
At the bottom works. You could link to
The other two  books are on "good reads" too or search for book-name review to find a review of the book such that you dont have to link to Amazon, if you dont want to

Lars
--------------010808060200000600020603-- --===============8793789123412424043== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============8793789123412424043==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Jun 12 07:40:05 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:40:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuzcC-0001TK-Fp; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:40:04 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuzcB-0001TF-JD for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:40:03 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:7447] by server-13.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 33/96-18692-25959935; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:40:02 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1402558791!9539522!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNTM1OTMgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 17148 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2014 07:39:53 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-10.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Jun 2014 07:39:53 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,463,1400025600"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="142922110" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2014 07:39:21 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 03:39:20 -0400 Message-ID: <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:39:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3859885904316518247==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3859885904316518247== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-7K68NiaY1cvj9Opdfqgz" --=-7K68NiaY1cvj9Opdfqgz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On mer, 2014-06-11 at 17:26 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 11/06/2014 17:11, George Dunlap wrote: >=20 > > OK, I have the revised version: > >=20 > > http://blog.xen.org/?p=3D9355&preview=3Dtrue > Looks great > >=20 Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. More important, where do we want to publish? Next week, I guess, as we've had the XenDevSummit talks lineup already for this week? Thanks and Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-7K68NiaY1cvj9Opdfqgz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlOZWScACgkQk4XaBE3IOsSZlwCeMsjZvrNSVYuQOz7qYgveBxgn RNcAn3ZR7qNjxq/6TMnm363YzEoWZJyq =LyMD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-7K68NiaY1cvj9Opdfqgz-- --===============3859885904316518247== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============3859885904316518247==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Jun 12 07:40:05 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:40:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuzcC-0001TK-Fp; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:40:04 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuzcB-0001TF-JD for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:40:03 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:7447] by server-13.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 33/96-18692-25959935; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:40:02 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1402558791!9539522!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , async_handler: YXN5bmNfZGVsYXk6IDcwNTM1OTMgKHRpbWVvdXQp\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 17148 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2014 07:39:53 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-10.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Jun 2014 07:39:53 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,463,1400025600"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="142922110" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2014 07:39:21 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 03:39:20 -0400 Message-ID: <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:39:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3859885904316518247==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3859885904316518247== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-7K68NiaY1cvj9Opdfqgz" --=-7K68NiaY1cvj9Opdfqgz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On mer, 2014-06-11 at 17:26 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 11/06/2014 17:11, George Dunlap wrote: >=20 > > OK, I have the revised version: > >=20 > > http://blog.xen.org/?p=3D9355&preview=3Dtrue > Looks great > >=20 Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. More important, where do we want to publish? Next week, I guess, as we've had the XenDevSummit talks lineup already for this week? Thanks and Regards, Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-7K68NiaY1cvj9Opdfqgz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlOZWScACgkQk4XaBE3IOsSZlwCeMsjZvrNSVYuQOz7qYgveBxgn RNcAn3ZR7qNjxq/6TMnm363YzEoWZJyq =LyMD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-7K68NiaY1cvj9Opdfqgz-- --===============3859885904316518247== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============3859885904316518247==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Jun 12 10:40:31 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:40:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wv2Qo-0005su-N2; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:40:30 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wv2Qm-0005sp-T4 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:40:29 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:35843] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 78/B0-13602-C9389935; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:40:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1402569625!10912923!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 24957 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2014 10:40:26 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Jun 2014 10:40:26 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,464,1400025600"; d="scan'208";a="142617388" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2014 10:40:25 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 06:40:24 -0400 Received: from gateway-cbg.eng.citrite.net ([10.80.16.17] helo=[0.0.0.0]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wv2Qh-000331-Ar; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:40:23 +0100 Message-ID: <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:40:21 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dario Faggioli , References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> In-Reply-To: <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: > On mer, 2014-06-11 at 17:26 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: >> On 11/06/2014 17:11, George Dunlap wrote: >> >>> OK, I have the revised version: >>> >>> http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true >> Looks great >>> > Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. > > Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything > particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. You mean something like one of these? https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 https://www.flickr.com/photos/alinababafriend/3110676430 https://www.flickr.com/photos/mskeet/5199001755 https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 -George _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Jun 12 10:40:31 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:40:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wv2Qo-0005su-N2; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:40:30 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wv2Qm-0005sp-T4 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:40:29 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:35843] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 78/B0-13602-C9389935; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:40:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1402569625!10912923!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 24957 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2014 10:40:26 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Jun 2014 10:40:26 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,464,1400025600"; d="scan'208";a="142617388" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2014 10:40:25 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 06:40:24 -0400 Received: from gateway-cbg.eng.citrite.net ([10.80.16.17] helo=[0.0.0.0]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wv2Qh-000331-Ar; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:40:23 +0100 Message-ID: <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:40:21 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dario Faggioli , References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> In-Reply-To: <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: > On mer, 2014-06-11 at 17:26 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: >> On 11/06/2014 17:11, George Dunlap wrote: >> >>> OK, I have the revised version: >>> >>> http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true >> Looks great >>> > Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. > > Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything > particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. You mean something like one of these? https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 https://www.flickr.com/photos/alinababafriend/3110676430 https://www.flickr.com/photos/mskeet/5199001755 https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 -George _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Jun 12 10:43:54 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:43:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wv2U6-0005v3-0G; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:43:54 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wv2U5-0005uy-0w for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:43:53 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:25263] by server-11.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 27/36-19438-86489935; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:43:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: anil@recoil.org X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1402569831!9593964!1 X-Originating-IP: [89.16.177.154] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16150 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2014 10:43:51 -0000 Received: from recoil.dh.bytemark.co.uk (HELO dark.recoil.org) (89.16.177.154) by server-10.tower-31.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2014 10:43:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 8839 invoked by uid 634); 12 Jun 2014 10:43:51 -0000 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED X-Spam-Check-By: dark.recoil.org Received: from cpc7-cmbg14-2-0-cust238.5-4.cable.virginm.net (HELO [192.168.1.113]) (86.30.244.239) (smtp-auth username remote@recoil.org, mechanism cram-md5) by dark.recoil.org (qpsmtpd/0.84) with ESMTPA; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:43:43 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Anil Madhavapeddy In-Reply-To: <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:43:41 +0100 Message-Id: <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> To: George Dunlap X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on dark.recoil.org Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap wrote: > On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >> On mer, 2014-06-11 at 17:26 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: >>> On 11/06/2014 17:11, George Dunlap wrote: >>> >>>> OK, I have the revised version: >>>> >>>> http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true >>> Looks great >>>> >> Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. >> >> Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything >> particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. > > You mean something like one of these? > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 > https://www.flickr.com/photos/alinababafriend/3110676430 > https://www.flickr.com/photos/mskeet/5199001755 > https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 Isn't release management more like this? http://i.imgur.com/Tw1x160.jpg -a _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Jun 12 10:43:54 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:43:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wv2U6-0005v3-0G; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:43:54 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wv2U5-0005uy-0w for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:43:53 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:25263] by server-11.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 27/36-19438-86489935; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:43:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: anil@recoil.org X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1402569831!9593964!1 X-Originating-IP: [89.16.177.154] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16150 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2014 10:43:51 -0000 Received: from recoil.dh.bytemark.co.uk (HELO dark.recoil.org) (89.16.177.154) by server-10.tower-31.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2014 10:43:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 8839 invoked by uid 634); 12 Jun 2014 10:43:51 -0000 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED X-Spam-Check-By: dark.recoil.org Received: from cpc7-cmbg14-2-0-cust238.5-4.cable.virginm.net (HELO [192.168.1.113]) (86.30.244.239) (smtp-auth username remote@recoil.org, mechanism cram-md5) by dark.recoil.org (qpsmtpd/0.84) with ESMTPA; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:43:43 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Anil Madhavapeddy In-Reply-To: <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:43:41 +0100 Message-Id: <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> To: George Dunlap X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on dark.recoil.org Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap wrote: > On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >> On mer, 2014-06-11 at 17:26 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: >>> On 11/06/2014 17:11, George Dunlap wrote: >>> >>>> OK, I have the revised version: >>>> >>>> http://blog.xen.org/?p=9355&preview=true >>> Looks great >>>> >> Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. >> >> Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything >> particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. > > You mean something like one of these? > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 > https://www.flickr.com/photos/alinababafriend/3110676430 > https://www.flickr.com/photos/mskeet/5199001755 > https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 Isn't release management more like this? http://i.imgur.com/Tw1x160.jpg -a _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Jun 13 14:00:37 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:00:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WvS21-0007yH-1X; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:00:37 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WvS1z-0007yC-DM for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:00:35 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:64335] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 50/B6-13602-2040B935; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:00:34 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1402668032!11222594!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , surbl: (ASYNC_NO) c3VyYmxfcmVjaGVja19kZWxheTogMCAoYWJhbmRv bmVkOiBhYm91dC5tZS9kYXJpby5mYWdnaW9s\naSk=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27878 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2014 14:00:33 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Jun 2014 14:00:33 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,471,1400025600"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="143145432" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 13 Jun 2014 14:00:31 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 10:00:30 -0400 Message-ID: <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Anil Madhavapeddy Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 16:00:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3678048793876341117==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3678048793876341117== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-0zm+IZjTNqddUnsWcp27" --=-0zm+IZjTNqddUnsWcp27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: > On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap wro= te: >=20 > > On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: > >> Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. > >>=20 > >> Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything > >> particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. > >=20 > > You mean something like one of these? > >=20 > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/alinababafriend/3110676430 > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/mskeet/5199001755 > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 >=20 > Isn't release management more like this? >=20 > http://i.imgur.com/Tw1x160.jpg >=20 :-) It probably is... but given the explicit poker analogy in the piece, I like George's examples a lot too. Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-0zm+IZjTNqddUnsWcp27 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlObA/0ACgkQk4XaBE3IOsQKSACeNcQ9GCfEQGOLEqiY1N/IeTuf NycAnRgRKzueZGxCGfkIhhD1p7WqWH1q =PrqJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-0zm+IZjTNqddUnsWcp27-- --===============3678048793876341117== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============3678048793876341117==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Jun 13 14:00:37 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:00:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WvS21-0007yH-1X; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:00:37 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WvS1z-0007yC-DM for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:00:35 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:64335] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 50/B6-13602-2040B935; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:00:34 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dario.faggioli@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1402668032!11222594!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_8, spamassassin: , surbl: (ASYNC_NO) c3VyYmxfcmVjaGVja19kZWxheTogMCAoYWJhbmRv bmVkOiBhYm91dC5tZS9kYXJpby5mYWdnaW9s\naSk=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27878 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2014 14:00:33 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Jun 2014 14:00:33 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,471,1400025600"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="143145432" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 13 Jun 2014 14:00:31 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 10:00:30 -0400 Message-ID: <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> From: Dario Faggioli To: Anil Madhavapeddy Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 16:00:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> Organization: Citrix X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 (3.10.4-2.fc20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3678048793876341117==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3678048793876341117== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-0zm+IZjTNqddUnsWcp27" --=-0zm+IZjTNqddUnsWcp27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: > On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap wro= te: >=20 > > On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: > >> Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. > >>=20 > >> Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything > >> particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. > >=20 > > You mean something like one of these? > >=20 > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/alinababafriend/3110676430 > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/mskeet/5199001755 > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 >=20 > Isn't release management more like this? >=20 > http://i.imgur.com/Tw1x160.jpg >=20 :-) It probably is... but given the explicit poker analogy in the piece, I like George's examples a lot too. Dario --=20 <> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) --=-0zm+IZjTNqddUnsWcp27 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlObA/0ACgkQk4XaBE3IOsQKSACeNcQ9GCfEQGOLEqiY1N/IeTuf NycAnRgRKzueZGxCGfkIhhD1p7WqWH1q =PrqJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-0zm+IZjTNqddUnsWcp27-- --===============3678048793876341117== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============3678048793876341117==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Jun 13 14:17:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:17:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WvSIg-0008NH-9E; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:17:50 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WvSIf-0008N6-9a for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:17:49 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:21695] by server-8.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id C7/14-11310-C080B935; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:17:48 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1402669068!9827582!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.181] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 17911 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2014 14:17:48 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f181.google.com) (209.85.212.181) by server-9.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Jun 2014 14:17:48 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id n3so975185wiv.2 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 07:17:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ht7szX6THwsdjtyfep2kD8yQAvhFuylWD/MuHjNgyo0=; b=b7Mwd4954u0ypE6w597nC9sEoKbdRmhKTXrXfyAeOxsl4mX/QQFEOfCpMIhfymZFii o2veF5zR27aFHNhIsWyilHSXhAsJDVWZZFyd/EG3gLouiUwvdzK01+H7CM+Xj2PlquGs 9HKZMAjQKx7gNFtqWyvmgmn42OkTAJg42rmwu41ELmR8m7cseRmKLrhKwMwgsyBBQwsO 9crubz6k2ANuACCSn3QC9MyalTSbqgQwEoTnRfFW3GWQPjJ3hUkkmjjxJX+d0d6SIC1S sUzoMX58sXqF1jwITd5UkYxou0hfWto5j721eVhe4FbuQY07CEsNG5WTISPWw91yGUwQ Q2tQ== X-Received: by 10.180.75.236 with SMTP id f12mr5281417wiw.11.1402669067723; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 07:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bx2sm6028034wjb.47.2014.06.13.07.17.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 13 Jun 2014 07:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 15:17:44 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dario Faggioli , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> In-Reply-To: <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 13/06/2014 15:00, Dario Faggioli wrote: > On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: >> On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap wrote: >> >>> On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>>> Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. >>>> >>>> Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything >>>> particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. >>> You mean something like one of these? >>> >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 >>> ... >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 I like these, in particlar the first one, but I am not 100% sure whether we can use them (non-commercial use only) I do like the poker analogy and have a shutterstock.com account - if you find one there I can buy Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Jun 13 14:17:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:17:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WvSIg-0008NH-9E; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:17:50 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WvSIf-0008N6-9a for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:17:49 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:21695] by server-8.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id C7/14-11310-C080B935; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:17:48 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1402669068!9827582!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.181] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 17911 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2014 14:17:48 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f181.google.com) (209.85.212.181) by server-9.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Jun 2014 14:17:48 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id n3so975185wiv.2 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 07:17:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ht7szX6THwsdjtyfep2kD8yQAvhFuylWD/MuHjNgyo0=; b=b7Mwd4954u0ypE6w597nC9sEoKbdRmhKTXrXfyAeOxsl4mX/QQFEOfCpMIhfymZFii o2veF5zR27aFHNhIsWyilHSXhAsJDVWZZFyd/EG3gLouiUwvdzK01+H7CM+Xj2PlquGs 9HKZMAjQKx7gNFtqWyvmgmn42OkTAJg42rmwu41ELmR8m7cseRmKLrhKwMwgsyBBQwsO 9crubz6k2ANuACCSn3QC9MyalTSbqgQwEoTnRfFW3GWQPjJ3hUkkmjjxJX+d0d6SIC1S sUzoMX58sXqF1jwITd5UkYxou0hfWto5j721eVhe4FbuQY07CEsNG5WTISPWw91yGUwQ Q2tQ== X-Received: by 10.180.75.236 with SMTP id f12mr5281417wiw.11.1402669067723; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 07:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bx2sm6028034wjb.47.2014.06.13.07.17.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 13 Jun 2014 07:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 15:17:44 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dario Faggioli , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> In-Reply-To: <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 13/06/2014 15:00, Dario Faggioli wrote: > On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: >> On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap wrote: >> >>> On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>>> Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. >>>> >>>> Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything >>>> particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. >>> You mean something like one of these? >>> >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 >>> ... >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 I like these, in particlar the first one, but I am not 100% sure whether we can use them (non-commercial use only) I do like the poker analogy and have a shutterstock.com account - if you find one there I can buy Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 16 08:53:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:53:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwSfM-0005Lj-MX; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:53:24 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwSfL-0005Le-Pf for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:53:24 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:35201] by server-10.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 95/A5-16608-380BE935; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:53:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1402908800!10311737!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6541 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2014 08:53:22 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-3.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Jun 2014 08:53:22 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,485,1400025600"; d="scan'208";a="143660781" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 16 Jun 2014 08:52:55 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 04:52:54 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WwSer-0006jM-WC; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:52:53 +0100 Message-ID: <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:52:08 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Dario Faggioli , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 06/13/2014 03:17 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 13/06/2014 15:00, Dario Faggioli wrote: >> On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: >>> On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>>>> Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything >>>>> particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. >>>> You mean something like one of these? >>>> >>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 >>>> ... >>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 > > I like these, in particlar the first one, but I am not 100% sure > whether we can use them (non-commercial use only) Isn't xenproject.org a non-profit? Or a not-for-profit? -George _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 16 08:53:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:53:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwSfM-0005Lj-MX; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:53:24 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwSfL-0005Le-Pf for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:53:24 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:35201] by server-10.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 95/A5-16608-380BE935; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:53:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1402908800!10311737!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6541 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2014 08:53:22 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-3.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Jun 2014 08:53:22 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,485,1400025600"; d="scan'208";a="143660781" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 16 Jun 2014 08:52:55 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 04:52:54 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WwSer-0006jM-WC; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:52:53 +0100 Message-ID: <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:52:08 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Dario Faggioli , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 06/13/2014 03:17 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 13/06/2014 15:00, Dario Faggioli wrote: >> On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: >>> On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>>>> Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything >>>>> particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. >>>> You mean something like one of these? >>>> >>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 >>>> ... >>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 > > I like these, in particlar the first one, but I am not 100% sure > whether we can use them (non-commercial use only) Isn't xenproject.org a non-profit? Or a not-for-profit? -George _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 16 09:07:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:07:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwSst-0005bE-Am; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:07:23 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwSsr-0005b9-Qv for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:07:22 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:42829] by server-3.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 1F/FF-08149-9C3BE935; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:07:21 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1402909638!10276419!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23199 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2014 09:07:20 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-2.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Jun 2014 09:07:20 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,485,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="143991746" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 16 Jun 2014 09:07:18 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 05:07:17 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WwSsm-0006x9-Ql; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:07:16 +0100 Message-ID: <539EB397.9030506@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:06:31 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Dario Faggioli , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4648748792981583021==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============4648748792981583021== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050400000300080400060105" --------------050400000300080400060105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/16/2014 09:52 AM, George Dunlap wrote: > On 06/13/2014 03:17 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: >> On 13/06/2014 15:00, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>> On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: >>>> On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>>>>> Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything >>>>>> particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. >>>>> You mean something like one of these? >>>>> >>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 >>>>> ... >>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 >> >> I like these, in particlar the first one, but I am not 100% sure >> whether we can use them (non-commercial use only) > > Isn't xenproject.org a non-profit? Or a not-for-profit? " A commercial use is one primarily intended for commercial advantage or monetary compensation." We're certainly not getting any monetary compensation. And the purpose of this blog post is to help people understand something about the development process in general -- we're not even really promoting Xen over KVM or anything like that. I don't even think promoting Xen as an open-source project would be "for commercial advantage"; but I completely fail to see how explaining principles of development could be "for commercial advantage". -George --------------050400000300080400060105 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 06/16/2014 09:52 AM, George Dunlap wrote:
On 06/13/2014 03:17 PM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 13/06/2014 15:00, Dario Faggioli wrote:
On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote:
On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:

On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote:
Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post.

Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything
particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important.
You mean something like one of these?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248
...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943

I like these, in particlar the first one, but I am not 100% sure whether we can use them (non-commercial use only)

Isn't xenproject.org a non-profit?  Or a not-for-profit?

" A commercial use is one primarily intended for commercial advantage or monetary compensation."

We're certainly not getting any monetary compensation.  And the purpose of this blog post is to help people understand something about the development process in general -- we're not even really promoting Xen over KVM or anything like that.  I don't even think promoting Xen as an open-source project would be "for commercial advantage"; but I completely fail to see how explaining principles of development could be "for commercial advantage".

 -George

--------------050400000300080400060105-- --===============4648748792981583021== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============4648748792981583021==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 16 09:07:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:07:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwSst-0005bE-Am; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:07:23 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwSsr-0005b9-Qv for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:07:22 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:42829] by server-3.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 1F/FF-08149-9C3BE935; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:07:21 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1402909638!10276419!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23199 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2014 09:07:20 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-2.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Jun 2014 09:07:20 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,485,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="143991746" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 16 Jun 2014 09:07:18 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 05:07:17 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WwSsm-0006x9-Ql; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:07:16 +0100 Message-ID: <539EB397.9030506@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:06:31 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Dario Faggioli , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4648748792981583021==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============4648748792981583021== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050400000300080400060105" --------------050400000300080400060105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/16/2014 09:52 AM, George Dunlap wrote: > On 06/13/2014 03:17 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: >> On 13/06/2014 15:00, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>> On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: >>>> On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>>>>> Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything >>>>>> particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. >>>>> You mean something like one of these? >>>>> >>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 >>>>> ... >>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 >> >> I like these, in particlar the first one, but I am not 100% sure >> whether we can use them (non-commercial use only) > > Isn't xenproject.org a non-profit? Or a not-for-profit? " A commercial use is one primarily intended for commercial advantage or monetary compensation." We're certainly not getting any monetary compensation. And the purpose of this blog post is to help people understand something about the development process in general -- we're not even really promoting Xen over KVM or anything like that. I don't even think promoting Xen as an open-source project would be "for commercial advantage"; but I completely fail to see how explaining principles of development could be "for commercial advantage". -George --------------050400000300080400060105 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 06/16/2014 09:52 AM, George Dunlap wrote:
On 06/13/2014 03:17 PM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 13/06/2014 15:00, Dario Faggioli wrote:
On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote:
On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:

On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote:
Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post.

Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything
particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important.
You mean something like one of these?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248
...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943

I like these, in particlar the first one, but I am not 100% sure whether we can use them (non-commercial use only)

Isn't xenproject.org a non-profit?  Or a not-for-profit?

" A commercial use is one primarily intended for commercial advantage or monetary compensation."

We're certainly not getting any monetary compensation.  And the purpose of this blog post is to help people understand something about the development process in general -- we're not even really promoting Xen over KVM or anything like that.  I don't even think promoting Xen as an open-source project would be "for commercial advantage"; but I completely fail to see how explaining principles of development could be "for commercial advantage".

 -George

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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i6sm13506833wiy.17.2014.06.16.02.22.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Jun 2014 02:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539EB742.8080108@xen.org> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:22:10 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Dunlap , Dario Faggioli , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 16/06/2014 09:52, George Dunlap wrote: > On 06/13/2014 03:17 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: >> On 13/06/2014 15:00, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>> On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: >>>> On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>>>>> Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything >>>>>> particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. >>>>> You mean something like one of these? >>>>> >>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 >>>>> ... >>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 >> >> I like these, in particlar the first one, but I am not 100% sure >> whether we can use them (non-commercial use only) > > Isn't xenproject.org a non-profit? Or a not-for-profit? Yes we are non-profit, but non-profit != non-commercial in a CC context and I always err on the side of caution. The reason is that CC's NonCommercial (NC) licenses prohibit uses that are "primarily intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or monetary compensation." ... you could argue that the web presence of every open source project is directed toward increasing the market share of that project and that any content published is thus "directed towards commercial advantage". http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Does_my_use_violate_the_NonCommercial_clause_of_the_licenses.3F Regards Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 16 09:22:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:22:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwT7H-00064H-SP; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:22:15 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwT7H-00064A-4G for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:22:15 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:60932] by server-1.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 4B/56-01663-647BE935; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:22:14 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1402910533!6017095!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.48] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25476 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2014 09:22:13 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f48.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f48.google.com) (74.125.82.48) by server-11.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Jun 2014 09:22:13 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id n12so5293226wgh.19 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 02:22:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LLB+RQekwPUWQPKROw3IbACWzUxUpD0GJuoilUHwCMg=; b=JfP7FkQEKM57IEIxqNsr16VPS9yO7XDLjn0JHfFqzm65wa7ygstapTqg4yqlKZI37W LpKWrIVdzpPrDflMCgtDdDp8w28IIhu4m21NpVSB8J1YL1qZ2E+hdFUhP9JQERl5+S56 uOVWEYt5qeVCGMwYLK2lUa9O7YVLMfTUsjRnLKdZNvBQSNDLvMZgjy1IoXdGs2jW9poO lCuCDmPeS7LQ6isZ/j01KiAXvHADHrb+VImPCPnwW/sfsCkRt49EbUSIPqZI7lI58uQi k9avLRty+wr7y+NlFg+9eqxokHCyKNF0lPuIXXEgxgSMKKt+7Bh5H14oOomWiF0501QT cuqQ== X-Received: by 10.180.20.141 with SMTP id n13mr25494295wie.6.1402910533251; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 02:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i6sm13506833wiy.17.2014.06.16.02.22.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Jun 2014 02:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539EB742.8080108@xen.org> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:22:10 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Dunlap , Dario Faggioli , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 16/06/2014 09:52, George Dunlap wrote: > On 06/13/2014 03:17 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: >> On 13/06/2014 15:00, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>> On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: >>>> On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>>>>> Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything >>>>>> particular in mind) somewhere? But not that important. >>>>> You mean something like one of these? >>>>> >>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 >>>>> ... >>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 >> >> I like these, in particlar the first one, but I am not 100% sure >> whether we can use them (non-commercial use only) > > Isn't xenproject.org a non-profit? Or a not-for-profit? Yes we are non-profit, but non-profit != non-commercial in a CC context and I always err on the side of caution. The reason is that CC's NonCommercial (NC) licenses prohibit uses that are "primarily intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or monetary compensation." ... you could argue that the web presence of every open source project is directed toward increasing the market share of that project and that any content published is thus "directed towards commercial advantage". http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Does_my_use_violate_the_NonCommercial_clause_of_the_licenses.3F Regards Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 16 09:29:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:29:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwTEM-0006RO-3y; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:29:34 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwTEK-0006RJ-Os for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:29:32 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:34019] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id F4/A6-06539-CF8BE935; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:29:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1402910971!11562416!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.181] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.1 required=7.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1243 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2014 09:29:31 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f181.google.com) (209.85.212.181) by server-11.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Jun 2014 09:29:31 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id n3so3663260wiv.2 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 02:29:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=7H+Q7ftJxtTE3JOoKJYxWlj+O5j4QE9qPcqtWdArNQ8=; b=rXk/dANPN18kVqvHdFfaMl4UxkZvuFC/c2nfHS9Yzk1MKrgk84h0odyF7mUJX7PhVH qsd6PVm8VSr7WeplbXnFHzjRhDzZTyiKf/nNpaN2NKCoonRVc2YlXpiV8nwaumhwlHQq h0ckGMuGx5t925HvTeoEnXw0q1vWXHgHNbYxS3j7osYupP/4AsO4MT+M+7tj+dhDJOAp Gch2FK+METoJ5DZaFa0sLIYjQN6A4nlZJbz6onCqaIulyXpLlEnHWshRF49KxW8/6pb3 WNRbkjNB756qONLA5I+Iiargov2TkkWJODJdQHo8QQ6/5/tWfDE60zAni4VDAITiooJI V9MA== X-Received: by 10.180.83.225 with SMTP id t1mr25619053wiy.28.1402910971054; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 02:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ft17sm17870605wjc.14.2014.06.16.02.29.29 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Jun 2014 02:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539EB8F9.7070508@xen.org> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:29:29 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Dunlap , Dario Faggioli , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> <539EB397.9030506@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <539EB397.9030506@eu.citrix.com> Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3425190265793664214==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3425190265793664214== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060900080704040105010405" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060900080704040105010405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 16/06/2014 10:06, George Dunlap wrote: > " A commercial use is one primarily intended for commercial advantage > or monetary compensation." > > We're certainly not getting any monetary compensation. And the > purpose of this blog post is to help people understand something about > the development process in general -- we're not even really promoting > Xen over KVM or anything like that. I don't even think promoting Xen > as an open-source project would be "for commercial advantage"; but I > completely fail to see how explaining principles of development could > be "for commercial advantage". George, it's up to you. I personally never use CC NC - in particular for presentations - because it's often a gray area. Certainly some blog posts, e.g. those promoting one of our events, could be easily interpreted as having a commercial dimension. Regards Lars --------------060900080704040105010405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 16/06/2014 10:06, George Dunlap wrote:
" A commercial use is one primarily intended for commercial advantage or monetary compensation."

We're certainly not getting any monetary compensation.  And the purpose of this blog post is to help people understand something about the development process in general -- we're not even really promoting Xen over KVM or anything like that.  I don't even think promoting Xen as an open-source project would be "for commercial advantage"; but I completely fail to see how explaining principles of development could be "for commercial advantage".
George, it's up to you.
I personally never use CC NC - in particular for presentations - because it's often a gray area.
Certainly some blog posts, e.g. those promoting one of our events, could be easily interpreted as having a commercial dimension.
Regards
Lars
--------------060900080704040105010405-- --===============3425190265793664214== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============3425190265793664214==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 16 09:29:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:29:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwTEM-0006RO-3y; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:29:34 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwTEK-0006RJ-Os for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:29:32 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:34019] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id F4/A6-06539-CF8BE935; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:29:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1402910971!11562416!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.181] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.1 required=7.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1243 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2014 09:29:31 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f181.google.com) (209.85.212.181) by server-11.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Jun 2014 09:29:31 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id n3so3663260wiv.2 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 02:29:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=7H+Q7ftJxtTE3JOoKJYxWlj+O5j4QE9qPcqtWdArNQ8=; b=rXk/dANPN18kVqvHdFfaMl4UxkZvuFC/c2nfHS9Yzk1MKrgk84h0odyF7mUJX7PhVH qsd6PVm8VSr7WeplbXnFHzjRhDzZTyiKf/nNpaN2NKCoonRVc2YlXpiV8nwaumhwlHQq h0ckGMuGx5t925HvTeoEnXw0q1vWXHgHNbYxS3j7osYupP/4AsO4MT+M+7tj+dhDJOAp Gch2FK+METoJ5DZaFa0sLIYjQN6A4nlZJbz6onCqaIulyXpLlEnHWshRF49KxW8/6pb3 WNRbkjNB756qONLA5I+Iiargov2TkkWJODJdQHo8QQ6/5/tWfDE60zAni4VDAITiooJI V9MA== X-Received: by 10.180.83.225 with SMTP id t1mr25619053wiy.28.1402910971054; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 02:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ft17sm17870605wjc.14.2014.06.16.02.29.29 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Jun 2014 02:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539EB8F9.7070508@xen.org> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:29:29 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Dunlap , Dario Faggioli , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> <539EB397.9030506@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <539EB397.9030506@eu.citrix.com> Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3425190265793664214==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3425190265793664214== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060900080704040105010405" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060900080704040105010405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 16/06/2014 10:06, George Dunlap wrote: > " A commercial use is one primarily intended for commercial advantage > or monetary compensation." > > We're certainly not getting any monetary compensation. And the > purpose of this blog post is to help people understand something about > the development process in general -- we're not even really promoting > Xen over KVM or anything like that. I don't even think promoting Xen > as an open-source project would be "for commercial advantage"; but I > completely fail to see how explaining principles of development could > be "for commercial advantage". George, it's up to you. I personally never use CC NC - in particular for presentations - because it's often a gray area. Certainly some blog posts, e.g. those promoting one of our events, could be easily interpreted as having a commercial dimension. Regards Lars --------------060900080704040105010405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 16/06/2014 10:06, George Dunlap wrote:
" A commercial use is one primarily intended for commercial advantage or monetary compensation."

We're certainly not getting any monetary compensation.  And the purpose of this blog post is to help people understand something about the development process in general -- we're not even really promoting Xen over KVM or anything like that.  I don't even think promoting Xen as an open-source project would be "for commercial advantage"; but I completely fail to see how explaining principles of development could be "for commercial advantage".
George, it's up to you.
I personally never use CC NC - in particular for presentations - because it's often a gray area.
Certainly some blog posts, e.g. those promoting one of our events, could be easily interpreted as having a commercial dimension.
Regards
Lars
--------------060900080704040105010405-- --===============3425190265793664214== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============3425190265793664214==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 16 09:42:02 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:42:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwTQP-0006iC-I4; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:42:02 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwTQO-0006i7-65 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:42:00 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:35756] by server-16.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id FE/14-18862-7EBBE935; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:41:59 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1402911716!10142171!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 29493 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2014 09:41:57 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Jun 2014 09:41:57 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,485,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="143672993" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 16 Jun 2014 09:41:56 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 05:41:54 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WwTQI-0007YS-Vr; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:41:54 +0100 Message-ID: <539EBBB6.2010406@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:41:10 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Dario Faggioli , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> <539EB742.8080108@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <539EB742.8080108@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4503902293319952700==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============4503902293319952700== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060704010403090109040608" --------------060704010403090109040608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Length: 4092 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/16/2014 10:22 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 16/06/2014 09:52, George Dunlap wrote: >> On 06/13/2014 03:17 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: >>> On 13/06/2014 15:00, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>>> On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: >>>>> On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>>>>>> Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything >>>>>>> particular in mind) somewhere=3F But not that important. >>>>>> You mean something like one of these=3F >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 >>>>>> ... >>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 >>> >>> I like these, in particlar the first one, but I am not 100% sure >>> whether we can use them (non-commercial use only) >> >> Isn't xenproject.org a non-profit=3F Or a not-for-profit=3F > Yes we are non-profit, but non-profit !=3D non-commercial in a CC > context and I always err on the side of caution. The reason is that > CC's NonCommercial (NC) licenses prohibit uses that are "primarily > intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or monetary > compensation." ... you could argue that the web presence of every open > source project is directed toward increasing the market share of that > project and that any content published is thus "directed towards > commercial advantage". > > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Does_my_use_violate_the_NonCommercial_clause_of_the_licenses.3F > Unfortunately that's basically completely useless. There's an actually informative write-up here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3234435/ Relevant quotes: " The full text no longer uses the term =E2=80=9Ccommercial purposes=E2=80=9D, but only the concepts of =E2=80=9Cintent or direction=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Ccommercial advantages=E2=80=9D. To our knowledge, the concept of =E2=80=9Ccommercial advantages=E2=80=9D is at present neither defined by CC nor in the law of most countries" and: " For example, a charitable non-profit organization may sell a calendar with CC-NC-licensed images as a means to raise funds. This is considered to be commercial use even by permissive interpretations of the NC-clause (e.g.,Kleinman 2008 ), despite the fact that the ultimate intention for the funds is a charitable cause. But what about a general brochure, distributed free-of-charge=3F Increases in the membership base or in public recognition translate into a commercial advantage in the form of higher income through membership fees or voluntary contributions. To some extent, non-profit organizations compete with each other for donations and funds that the members of the public are willing to spend on membership fees. If a non-profit nature conservation organization uses an NC-licensed image in an advertisement brochure and the paid membership increases, it could be argued =E2=80=93 similarly to the case of the calendar =E2=80=93 that this use of the licensed work was primarily intended and directed toward commercial advantage." I took a look at shutterstock, and found some ones that might be suitable: http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-58404295/stock-photo-poker-player-with-red-aces-showing-in-sunglasses.html=3Fsrc=3DCc3Jb0kJ49zKH_2bEuKzlw-1-5 Not nearly as cool as the aviator glasses one, but OK. Another one: http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-39769735/stock-photo-great-time-for-you-luck.html=3Fsrc=3DE6IDlc1FZTH0vya8FP4G5w-1-13 The thing I like about this one is that is actually has directly to do with how poker is used in the article: ace-10 is a tolerable hand, but there's a significant chance you'll end up with nothing but an ace at the end; gambling that you'll get something more (a flush, or as in this case, a royal flush) is a risk. Thoughts=3F -George --------------060704010403090109040608 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Length: 9009 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 06/16/2014 10:22 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 16/06/2014 09:52, George Dunlap wrote:
On 06/13/2014 03:17 PM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 13/06/2014 15:00, Dario Faggioli wrote:
On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote:
On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:

On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote:
Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post.

Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything
particular in mind) somewhere=3F But not that important.
You mean something like one of these=3F

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248
...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943

I like these, in particlar the first one, but I am not 100% sure whether we can use them (non-commercial use only)

Isn't xenproject.org a non-profit=3F=C2=A0 Or a not-for-profit=3F
Yes we are non-profit, but non-profit !=3D non-commercial in a CC context and I always err on the side of caution. The reason is that CC's NonCommercial (NC) licenses prohibit uses that are "primarily intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or monetary compensation." ... you could argue that the web presence of every open source project is directed toward increasing the market share of that project and that any content published is thus "directed towards commercial advantage".

http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Does_my_use_violate_the_NonCommercial_clause_of_the_licenses.3F

Unfortunately that's basically completely useless.

There's an actually informative write-up here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3234435/

Relevant quotes:

" The full text no longer uses the term =E2=80=9Ccommercial purposes=E2=80=9D, but only the concepts of =E2=80=9Cintent or direction=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Ccommercial advantages=E2=80=9D. To our knowledge, the concept of =E2=80=9Ccommercial advantages=E2=80=9D is at present neither defined by CC nor in the law of most countries"

and:

"
For example, a charitable non-profit organization may sell a calendar with CC-NC-licensed images as a means to raise funds. This is considered to be commercial use even by permissive interpretations of the NC-clause (e.g.,=C2=A0Kleinman 2008), despite the fact that the ultimate intention for the funds is a charitable cause. But what about a general brochure, distributed free-of-charge=3F Increases in the membership base or in public recognition translate into a commercial advantage in the form of higher income through membership fees or voluntary contributions. To some extent, non-profit organizations compete with each other for donations and funds that the members of the public are willing to spend on membership fees. If a non-profit nature conservation organization uses an NC-licensed image in an advertisement brochure and the paid membership increases, it could be argued =E2=80=93 similarly to the case of the calendar =E2=80=93 that this use of the licensed work was primarily intended and directed toward commercial advantage."

I took a look at shutterstock, and found some ones that might be suitable:

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-58404295/stock-photo-poker-player-with-red-aces-showing-in-sunglasses.html=3Fsrc=3DCc3Jb0kJ49zKH_2bEuKzlw-1-5

Not nearly as cool as the aviator glasses one, but OK.=C2=A0 Another one:

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-39769735/stock-photo-great-time-for-you-luck.html=3Fsrc=3DE6IDlc1FZTH0vya8FP4G5w-1-13

The thing I like about this one is that is actually has directly to do with how poker is used in the article: ace-10 is a tolerable hand, but there's a significant chance you'll end up with nothing but an ace at the end; gambling that you'll get something more (a flush, or as in this case, a royal flush) is a risk.

Thoughts=3F

=C2=A0-George
 --------------060704010403090109040608-- --===============4503902293319952700== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============4503902293319952700==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 16 09:42:02 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:42:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwTQP-0006iC-I4; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:42:02 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WwTQO-0006i7-65 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:42:00 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:35756] by server-16.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id FE/14-18862-7EBBE935; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:41:59 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1402911716!10142171!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 29493 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2014 09:41:57 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Jun 2014 09:41:57 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,485,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="143672993" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 16 Jun 2014 09:41:56 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 05:41:54 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WwTQI-0007YS-Vr; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:41:54 +0100 Message-ID: <539EBBB6.2010406@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:41:10 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Dario Faggioli , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> <539EB742.8080108@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <539EB742.8080108@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4503902293319952700==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============4503902293319952700== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060704010403090109040608" --------------060704010403090109040608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Length: 4092 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/16/2014 10:22 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 16/06/2014 09:52, George Dunlap wrote: >> On 06/13/2014 03:17 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: >>> On 13/06/2014 15:00, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>>> On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: >>>>> On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>>>>>> Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything >>>>>>> particular in mind) somewhere=3F But not that important. >>>>>> You mean something like one of these=3F >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248 >>>>>> ... >>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943 >>> >>> I like these, in particlar the first one, but I am not 100% sure >>> whether we can use them (non-commercial use only) >> >> Isn't xenproject.org a non-profit=3F Or a not-for-profit=3F > Yes we are non-profit, but non-profit !=3D non-commercial in a CC > context and I always err on the side of caution. The reason is that > CC's NonCommercial (NC) licenses prohibit uses that are "primarily > intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or monetary > compensation." ... you could argue that the web presence of every open > source project is directed toward increasing the market share of that > project and that any content published is thus "directed towards > commercial advantage". > > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Does_my_use_violate_the_NonCommercial_clause_of_the_licenses.3F > Unfortunately that's basically completely useless. There's an actually informative write-up here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3234435/ Relevant quotes: " The full text no longer uses the term =E2=80=9Ccommercial purposes=E2=80=9D, but only the concepts of =E2=80=9Cintent or direction=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Ccommercial advantages=E2=80=9D. To our knowledge, the concept of =E2=80=9Ccommercial advantages=E2=80=9D is at present neither defined by CC nor in the law of most countries" and: " For example, a charitable non-profit organization may sell a calendar with CC-NC-licensed images as a means to raise funds. This is considered to be commercial use even by permissive interpretations of the NC-clause (e.g.,Kleinman 2008 ), despite the fact that the ultimate intention for the funds is a charitable cause. But what about a general brochure, distributed free-of-charge=3F Increases in the membership base or in public recognition translate into a commercial advantage in the form of higher income through membership fees or voluntary contributions. To some extent, non-profit organizations compete with each other for donations and funds that the members of the public are willing to spend on membership fees. If a non-profit nature conservation organization uses an NC-licensed image in an advertisement brochure and the paid membership increases, it could be argued =E2=80=93 similarly to the case of the calendar =E2=80=93 that this use of the licensed work was primarily intended and directed toward commercial advantage." I took a look at shutterstock, and found some ones that might be suitable: http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-58404295/stock-photo-poker-player-with-red-aces-showing-in-sunglasses.html=3Fsrc=3DCc3Jb0kJ49zKH_2bEuKzlw-1-5 Not nearly as cool as the aviator glasses one, but OK. Another one: http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-39769735/stock-photo-great-time-for-you-luck.html=3Fsrc=3DE6IDlc1FZTH0vya8FP4G5w-1-13 The thing I like about this one is that is actually has directly to do with how poker is used in the article: ace-10 is a tolerable hand, but there's a significant chance you'll end up with nothing but an ace at the end; gambling that you'll get something more (a flush, or as in this case, a royal flush) is a risk. Thoughts=3F -George --------------060704010403090109040608 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Length: 9009 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 06/16/2014 10:22 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 16/06/2014 09:52, George Dunlap wrote:
On 06/13/2014 03:17 PM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 13/06/2014 15:00, Dario Faggioli wrote:
On gio, 2014-06-12 at 11:43 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote:
On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:40, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:

On 06/12/2014 08:39 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote:
Indeed. I just read it, and it's really a great post.

Perhaps... Adding a picture (a generic one, don't have anything
particular in mind) somewhere=3F But not that important.
You mean something like one of these=3F

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogood/2190795248
...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinl8888/119712943

I like these, in particlar the first one, but I am not 100% sure whether we can use them (non-commercial use only)

Isn't xenproject.org a non-profit=3F=C2=A0 Or a not-for-profit=3F
Yes we are non-profit, but non-profit !=3D non-commercial in a CC context and I always err on the side of caution. The reason is that CC's NonCommercial (NC) licenses prohibit uses that are "primarily intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or monetary compensation." ... you could argue that the web presence of every open source project is directed toward increasing the market share of that project and that any content published is thus "directed towards commercial advantage".

http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Does_my_use_violate_the_NonCommercial_clause_of_the_licenses.3F

Unfortunately that's basically completely useless.

There's an actually informative write-up here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3234435/

Relevant quotes:

" The full text no longer uses the term =E2=80=9Ccommercial purposes=E2=80=9D, but only the concepts of =E2=80=9Cintent or direction=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Ccommercial advantages=E2=80=9D. To our knowledge, the concept of =E2=80=9Ccommercial advantages=E2=80=9D is at present neither defined by CC nor in the law of most countries"

and:

"
For example, a charitable non-profit organization may sell a calendar with CC-NC-licensed images as a means to raise funds. This is considered to be commercial use even by permissive interpretations of the NC-clause (e.g.,=C2=A0Kleinman 2008), despite the fact that the ultimate intention for the funds is a charitable cause. But what about a general brochure, distributed free-of-charge=3F Increases in the membership base or in public recognition translate into a commercial advantage in the form of higher income through membership fees or voluntary contributions. To some extent, non-profit organizations compete with each other for donations and funds that the members of the public are willing to spend on membership fees. If a non-profit nature conservation organization uses an NC-licensed image in an advertisement brochure and the paid membership increases, it could be argued =E2=80=93 similarly to the case of the calendar =E2=80=93 that this use of the licensed work was primarily intended and directed toward commercial advantage."

I took a look at shutterstock, and found some ones that might be suitable:

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-58404295/stock-photo-poker-player-with-red-aces-showing-in-sunglasses.html=3Fsrc=3DCc3Jb0kJ49zKH_2bEuKzlw-1-5

Not nearly as cool as the aviator glasses one, but OK.=C2=A0 Another one:

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-39769735/stock-photo-great-time-for-you-luck.html=3Fsrc=3DE6IDlc1FZTH0vya8FP4G5w-1-13

The thing I like about this one is that is actually has directly to do with how poker is used in the article: ace-10 is a tolerable hand, but there's a significant chance you'll end up with nothing but an ace at the end; gambling that you'll get something more (a flush, or as in this case, a royal flush) is a risk.

Thoughts=3F

=C2=A0-George
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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ho2sm13738366wib.15.2014.06.16.03.03.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Jun 2014 03:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539EC0E9.6040107@xen.org> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:03:21 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Dunlap , Dario Faggioli , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> <539EB742.8080108@xen.org> <539EBBB6.2010406@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <539EBBB6.2010406@eu.citrix.com> Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1602428434432044551==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1602428434432044551== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020902040207080706070106" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020902040207080706070106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 16/06/2014 10:41, George Dunlap wrote: >> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Does_my_use_violate_the_NonCommercial_clause_of_the_licenses.3F > Unfortunately that's basically completely useless. O know. Which is why I tend to not use CC NC > > I took a look at shutterstock, and found some ones that might be suitable: > > http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-58404295/stock-photo-poker-player-with-red-aces-showing-in-sunglasses.html?src=Cc3Jb0kJ49zKH_2bEuKzlw-1-5 > > Not nearly as cool as the aviator glasses one, but OK. Another one: > > http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-39769735/stock-photo-great-time-for-you-luck.html?src=E6IDlc1FZTH0vya8FP4G5w-1-13 > > The thing I like about this one is that is actually has directly to do > with how poker is used in the article: ace-10 is a tolerable hand, but > there's a significant chance you'll end up with nothing but an ace at > the end; gambling that you'll get something more (a flush, or as in > this case, a royal flush) is a risk. Both work for me. Let me know and I will get the right picture on my account and it it to the post When would you want to publish? 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On 16/06/2014 10:41, George Dunlap wrote:
>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Does_my_use_violate_the_NonCommercial_clause_of_the_licenses.3F
> Unfortunately that's basically completely useless.
O know. Which is why I tend to not use CC NC


I took a look at shutterstock, and found some ones that might be suitable:

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-58404295/stock-photo-poker-player-with-red-aces-showing-in-sunglasses.html?src=Cc3Jb0kJ49zKH_2bEuKzlw-1-5

Not nearly as cool as the aviator glasses one, but OK.  Another one:

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-39769735/stock-photo-great-time-for-you-luck.html?src=E6IDlc1FZTH0vya8FP4G5w-1-13

The thing I like about this one is that is actually has directly to do with how poker is used in the article: ace-10 is a tolerable hand, but there's a significant chance you'll end up with nothing but an ace at the end; gambling that you'll get something more (a flush, or as in this case, a royal flush) is a risk.
Both work for me.  Let me know and I will get the right picture on my account and it it to the post

When would you want to publish?

Lars


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[151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ho2sm13738366wib.15.2014.06.16.03.03.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Jun 2014 03:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539EC0E9.6040107@xen.org> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:03:21 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Dunlap , Dario Faggioli , Anil Madhavapeddy References: <538CAF8B.3060601@eu.citrix.com> <53903793.1060108@xen.org> <53985F72.6000806@eu.citrix.com> <53987FB7.4040000@eu.citrix.com> <5398833B.1020507@xen.org> <1402558759.28649.15.camel@Solace> <53998395.1040708@eu.citrix.com> <959DEFD0-6AFC-4667-87C2-84660F2CAF0A@recoil.org> <1402668029.2352.1.camel@Solace> <539B0808.8070102@xen.org> <539EB038.4020703@eu.citrix.com> <539EB742.8080108@xen.org> <539EBBB6.2010406@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <539EBBB6.2010406@eu.citrix.com> Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Draft blog on release management principles X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1602428434432044551==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1602428434432044551== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020902040207080706070106" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020902040207080706070106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 16/06/2014 10:41, George Dunlap wrote: >> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Does_my_use_violate_the_NonCommercial_clause_of_the_licenses.3F > Unfortunately that's basically completely useless. O know. Which is why I tend to not use CC NC > > I took a look at shutterstock, and found some ones that might be suitable: > > http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-58404295/stock-photo-poker-player-with-red-aces-showing-in-sunglasses.html?src=Cc3Jb0kJ49zKH_2bEuKzlw-1-5 > > Not nearly as cool as the aviator glasses one, but OK. Another one: > > http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-39769735/stock-photo-great-time-for-you-luck.html?src=E6IDlc1FZTH0vya8FP4G5w-1-13 > > The thing I like about this one is that is actually has directly to do > with how poker is used in the article: ace-10 is a tolerable hand, but > there's a significant chance you'll end up with nothing but an ace at > the end; gambling that you'll get something more (a flush, or as in > this case, a royal flush) is a risk. Both work for me. Let me know and I will get the right picture on my account and it it to the post When would you want to publish? Lars --------------020902040207080706070106 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 16/06/2014 10:41, George Dunlap wrote:
>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Does_my_use_violate_the_NonCommercial_clause_of_the_licenses.3F
> Unfortunately that's basically completely useless.
O know. Which is why I tend to not use CC NC


I took a look at shutterstock, and found some ones that might be suitable:

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-58404295/stock-photo-poker-player-with-red-aces-showing-in-sunglasses.html?src=Cc3Jb0kJ49zKH_2bEuKzlw-1-5

Not nearly as cool as the aviator glasses one, but OK.  Another one:

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-39769735/stock-photo-great-time-for-you-luck.html?src=E6IDlc1FZTH0vya8FP4G5w-1-13

The thing I like about this one is that is actually has directly to do with how poker is used in the article: ace-10 is a tolerable hand, but there's a significant chance you'll end up with nothing but an ace at the end; gambling that you'll get something more (a flush, or as in this case, a royal flush) is a risk.
Both work for me.  Let me know and I will get the right picture on my account and it it to the post

When would you want to publish?

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--------------020902040207080706070106-- --===============1602428434432044551== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============1602428434432044551==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Jun 19 11:21:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 11:21:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WxaPJ-000451-O9; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 11:21:29 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WxaPI-00044r-2A for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 11:21:28 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:64347] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id BD/6A-16194-7B7C2A35; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 11:21:27 +0000 X-Env-Sender: sconway@linuxfoundation.org X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1403176886!12480781!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.48] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.2 required=7.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 31996 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2014 11:21:26 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f48.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f48.google.com) (74.125.82.48) by server-14.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 19 Jun 2014 11:21:26 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id n12so2156284wgh.7 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 04:21:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fsnrqdzNXMitJFrphilaste+H8cIp7d++c2U6aqyHxI=; b=HT3XBwov0kNUbNOxuEmmtIlL3TROGUeA4z8yN/Zlj7ZcO5/y97D1xtM3TdsFfnNeHd FEw1tldD93MmEE94MZCmqkPesQY2+DzYeLFe/f1vlezo6YSMHwYLO/CWKqpRDKwftqCg XK11pum8xVaDjrmt6eiBVa/ZmP6DTQ6MJ0wSM= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fsnrqdzNXMitJFrphilaste+H8cIp7d++c2U6aqyHxI=; b=b2QldgE+qZZqhC5UrJigJVfvchsyuNyLGzPfKASxwULlZoOsR0oGQ1mvierk9J6/Ix yT5ZhRTa41rXfZOJgmxuARgTlUYipGSrJg6Msk180loFVD6jgQtTObcDbtEPG/Ottmeb 7z3ue3lZyIiQwjsV9UWtecJxATaJc4N8WDlMOkoezkZM5CLM0n5g97Eh5Y15SCzQGVpQ dtFVF4IGkCZCuDZn3jBymEwH7aQS6xV2ilZpII/mGk1QIlD1LXBVR/EjdJisXbuSOqIM ZXP5AteMgkD2BXw6cFHZ6nrdtBIZ2fH7ZUzQN6JIeofema10U1qe1dM6LMPJxdyMd6mm 8SAg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmFnxFgxcgWRccpFFcg/ajASjpic8sApR+xoVwy22f2tO7SL6twJYs0ECE0mzI1koOFZ65Q MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.12.33 with SMTP id v1mr5949890wib.0.1403176886195; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 04:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.26.131 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 04:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 07:21:26 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sarah Conway To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Publicity] Interesting ZDNet article on Redhat/KVM X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0789853255544249877==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============0789853255544249877== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c24092dbf99a04fc2e93b3 --001a11c24092dbf99a04fc2e93b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Interesting look at Redhat/KVM and other vendors plans to remain a "valuable, noticeable part of an organization's overall IT infrastructure." This reporter who wrote the article is a former analyst by the way. Check out the functions/features list under "Today's expectations and requirements." This is a good check-box list for us to consider when talking to analysts and reporters about how we compare to competing VM software. http://www.zdnet.com/the-virtual-machine-software-wars-continue-red-hat-launches-rhev-3-4-7000030670/ Thanks, -- Sarah Conway PR Manager The Linux Foundation sconway@linuxfoundation.org (978) 578-5300 Cell Skype: sarah.k.conway --001a11c24092dbf99a04fc2e93b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting look at Redhat/KVM and other vendors plans to = remain a "valuable, noticeable part of an organization's overall I= T infrastructure."=C2=A0This reporter who wrote the article is a forme= r analyst by the way.=C2=A0

Check out the functions/features list under "Today's expectati= ons and requirements."

This is a good check-box list for us to = consider when talking to analysts and reporters about how we compare to com= peting VM software.

http://www.zdnet.com/the-virtual= -machine-software-wars-continue-red-hat-launches-rhev-3-4-7000030670/
Thanks,
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Sarah Conway
PR Manager
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= sconway@linuxfoundation.org<= /a>
(978) 578-5300 =C2=A0Cell
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Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:22:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/UXk0/zWFcdv1n7RUcY4U2oVjUyDLyPZ86Dpu/w7tH4=; b=fAwR2EPaI9mUEwZUMDTEddIzeLaUhWGc/+FZlo9gPm1ZkYugvVQA/AG5T3HJhSZFl4 czGiQYrKxw4PJrMsssfKUug2xP5L8wZwtc6nc5aU0RP+meYg9TldIsNeRJxfP7qD3LTU w+rOpr1yRZTP+FKoL4FrsIXqu9mzbVXWq76xSSGtw4r+yUeGHpAwotf7MDiOomXywYFY FLmudMbtmV4o3E/pdQUNeOCF8XzAjNpFHYCwtHrp34iK35a5yiyH9Erd/qwVwgFFu1OL 9di1oq6y0Cs8TU9ubQkkNTaTtYs3WefTNOLlq36zaDefw4X0tIxGRYDS1eyM0C38aPsP eKSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmVNnc5/2rwjNmAHWBv/7XWK9ilo5ckQtFyInuCa2bRfHsxiXbQjlsR0dB5FyMx4YrODEGu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.24.38 with SMTP id r6mr3051034vef.41.1403299363820; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.106.135 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:22:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 00:22:43 +0300 Message-ID: From: Dor Laor To: "lars.kurth@xen.org" Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3079883582228897821==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3079883582228897821== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b33982f18a4b104fc4b184f --047d7b33982f18a4b104fc4b184f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org < lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote: > > http://www.businesscloudnews.com/2014/06/19/hot-metal-how-virtualisation-is-no-longer-synonymous-with-cloud/ > > Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, it's a write from scratch plus ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article). Check out our recent blog posts: http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/ http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/ The third one will be released on Monday. You're welcomed to spread it or comment about it. Best, Dor > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > --047d7b33982f18a4b104fc4b184f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On F= ri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.ku= rth@xen.org <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting blog and = timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, it's a write from= scratch plus
ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article).

Check out our recent blog posts:

The third one will be released on Monday.
You're welcomed to spread it or comment about it.
Best,
Dor
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=C2=A0

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On F= ri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.ku= rth@xen.org <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting blog and = timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, it's a write from= scratch plus
ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article).

Check out our recent blog posts:

The third one will be released on Monday.
You're welcomed to spread it or comment about it.
Best,
Dor
=C2=A0


=C2=A0

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Publicity mailing list
Publicity@lists.xenprojec= t.org
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Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, > it's a write from scratch plus > ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article). Isn't it based on FreeBSD? IMHO OSv seems to be picking quite a lot of code from FreeBSD. Roger. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Sat Jun 21 08:45:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 08:45:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WyGvJ-0000e8-3t; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 08:45:21 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WyGvH-0000e3-Fm for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 08:45:19 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:53292] by server-10.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 96/C0-09305-E1645A35; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 08:45:18 +0000 X-Env-Sender: roger.pau@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1403340316!11413460!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18914 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2014 08:45:17 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-12.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Jun 2014 08:45:17 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,519,1400025600"; d="scan'208";a="146042908" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 21 Jun 2014 08:45:14 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.47) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 04:45:13 -0400 Message-ID: <53A54618.7090408@citrix.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 10:45:12 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_Pau_Monn=E9?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On 20/06/14 23:22, Dor Laor wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org > > wrote: > > http://www.businesscloudnews.com/2014/06/19/hot-metal-how-virtualisation-is-no-longer-synonymous-with-cloud/ > > > Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, > it's a write from scratch plus > ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article). Isn't it based on FreeBSD? IMHO OSv seems to be picking quite a lot of code from FreeBSD. Roger. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Sat Jun 21 19:02:55 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:02:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WyQYw-0003Y4-NT; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:02:54 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WyQYv-0003Xz-D1 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:02:53 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:15536] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 41/CC-06539-CD6D5A35; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:02:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dor@cloudius-systems.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1403377370!12913434!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.128.180] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.4 required=7.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 2817 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2014 19:02:51 -0000 Received: from mail-ve0-f180.google.com (HELO mail-ve0-f180.google.com) (209.85.128.180) by server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Jun 2014 19:02:51 -0000 Received: by mail-ve0-f180.google.com with SMTP id jw12so4730857veb.11 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:02:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kdI0jXRcehokkilsfZcn7Sgnvim2FZhV4jKTRZMIm1Q=; b=PrlPMGPUpV7G/uaI37Q5tsVCHA0ukcOvj/0CV+rYsmk6mgnjSwoqS5BuXCL3t5tQHf 0suHHcLmsnje7rMqDbzYXfp4D1pXYl13Ky2y+lp/AU8ddO455lyXnbqnIG7/yId5sc2U 5uFNdPj2Vy5uHJM9qZKPBKSXkatMuNdNhvNhTl/VP7wZ0RqvJr59OYrJGrhHvCkPigsn ODcFIrBRAXnLGmMWKtBTES4pdjEljemMMpma5720UFp3372zjbe38Etw53WXRDdlzaO+ R4+UFEC/MW5oHXscPO+ypX4UIQ8TD0roTGv1zIM4j57LRp24HrhUI5LG7BBtgDHappKa WyJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm2tNaTQW5UEW34LB9Sz+jSK5ZKh2UzVNDl0BhQ7wZ56WB68eoJfJCczCT6DA9mbK4A1qA3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.230.101 with SMTP id sx5mr9851799vec.10.1403377370107; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.106.135 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:02:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53A54618.7090408@citrix.com> References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A54618.7090408@citrix.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 22:02:49 +0300 Message-ID: From: Dor Laor To: =?UTF-8?Q?Roger_Pau_Monn=C3=A9?= Cc: "lars.kurth@xen.org" , Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0823703494883726069==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============0823703494883726069== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc853ca1a5a904fc5d41d5 --047d7bdc853ca1a5a904fc5d41d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Roger Pau Monn=C3=A9 wrote: > On 20/06/14 23:22, Dor Laor wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org > > > > wrote: > > > > > http://www.businesscloudnews.com/2014/06/19/hot-metal-how-virtualisation-= is-no-longer-synonymous-with-cloud/ > > > > > > Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, > > it's a write from scratch plus > > ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article). > > Isn't it based on FreeBSD? IMHO OSv seems to be picking quite a lot of > code from FreeBSD. > It's not based since we did write it from scratch. Initially we enabled the JVM w/o any code from FreeBSD and had very basic filesystem and networking w/o tcp. Later we added zfs and tcp from FreeBSD. We chose not to start w/ FreeBSD as a base since reaping it down would have been very hard. > > Roger. > > --047d7bdc853ca1a5a904fc5d41d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On S= at, Jun 21, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Roger Pau Monn=C3=A9 <roger.pau@citrix.co= m> wrote:
On 20/06/14 23:22, Dor Laor = wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org
> <mailto:lars.kurth@xen.= org> <lars.kurth.xen@= gmail.com
> <mailto:lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://www.businesscloudnews.com/2014/06/19/hot-metal-how-virtualis= ation-is-no-longer-synonymous-with-cloud/
>
>
> Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Li= nux,
> it's a write from scratch plus
> ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article).

Isn't it based on FreeBSD? IMHO OSv seems to be picking quite a l= ot of
code from FreeBSD.

It's not based s= ince we did write it from scratch. Initially we enabled the JVM w/o any cod= e=C2=A0
from FreeBSD and had very basic filesystem and networking= w/o tcp. Later we added zfs and
tcp from FreeBSD. We chose not to start w/ FreeBSD as a base since rea= ping it down would have been very hard.
=C2=A0

Roger.


--047d7bdc853ca1a5a904fc5d41d5-- --===============0823703494883726069== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============0823703494883726069==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Sat Jun 21 19:02:55 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:02:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WyQYw-0003Y4-NT; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:02:54 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WyQYv-0003Xz-D1 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:02:53 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:15536] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 41/CC-06539-CD6D5A35; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:02:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dor@cloudius-systems.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1403377370!12913434!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.128.180] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.4 required=7.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 2817 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2014 19:02:51 -0000 Received: from mail-ve0-f180.google.com (HELO mail-ve0-f180.google.com) (209.85.128.180) by server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Jun 2014 19:02:51 -0000 Received: by mail-ve0-f180.google.com with SMTP id jw12so4730857veb.11 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:02:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kdI0jXRcehokkilsfZcn7Sgnvim2FZhV4jKTRZMIm1Q=; b=PrlPMGPUpV7G/uaI37Q5tsVCHA0ukcOvj/0CV+rYsmk6mgnjSwoqS5BuXCL3t5tQHf 0suHHcLmsnje7rMqDbzYXfp4D1pXYl13Ky2y+lp/AU8ddO455lyXnbqnIG7/yId5sc2U 5uFNdPj2Vy5uHJM9qZKPBKSXkatMuNdNhvNhTl/VP7wZ0RqvJr59OYrJGrhHvCkPigsn ODcFIrBRAXnLGmMWKtBTES4pdjEljemMMpma5720UFp3372zjbe38Etw53WXRDdlzaO+ R4+UFEC/MW5oHXscPO+ypX4UIQ8TD0roTGv1zIM4j57LRp24HrhUI5LG7BBtgDHappKa WyJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm2tNaTQW5UEW34LB9Sz+jSK5ZKh2UzVNDl0BhQ7wZ56WB68eoJfJCczCT6DA9mbK4A1qA3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.230.101 with SMTP id sx5mr9851799vec.10.1403377370107; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.106.135 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:02:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53A54618.7090408@citrix.com> References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A54618.7090408@citrix.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 22:02:49 +0300 Message-ID: From: Dor Laor To: =?UTF-8?Q?Roger_Pau_Monn=C3=A9?= Cc: "lars.kurth@xen.org" , Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0823703494883726069==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============0823703494883726069== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc853ca1a5a904fc5d41d5 --047d7bdc853ca1a5a904fc5d41d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Roger Pau Monn=C3=A9 wrote: > On 20/06/14 23:22, Dor Laor wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org > > > > wrote: > > > > > http://www.businesscloudnews.com/2014/06/19/hot-metal-how-virtualisation-= is-no-longer-synonymous-with-cloud/ > > > > > > Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, > > it's a write from scratch plus > > ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article). > > Isn't it based on FreeBSD? IMHO OSv seems to be picking quite a lot of > code from FreeBSD. > It's not based since we did write it from scratch. Initially we enabled the JVM w/o any code from FreeBSD and had very basic filesystem and networking w/o tcp. Later we added zfs and tcp from FreeBSD. We chose not to start w/ FreeBSD as a base since reaping it down would have been very hard. > > Roger. > > --047d7bdc853ca1a5a904fc5d41d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On S= at, Jun 21, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Roger Pau Monn=C3=A9 <roger.pau@citrix.co= m> wrote:
On 20/06/14 23:22, Dor Laor = wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org
> <mailto:lars.kurth@xen.= org> <lars.kurth.xen@= gmail.com
> <mailto:lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://www.businesscloudnews.com/2014/06/19/hot-metal-how-virtualis= ation-is-no-longer-synonymous-with-cloud/
>
>
> Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Li= nux,
> it's a write from scratch plus
> ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article).

Isn't it based on FreeBSD? IMHO OSv seems to be picking quite a l= ot of
code from FreeBSD.

It's not based s= ince we did write it from scratch. Initially we enabled the JVM w/o any cod= e=C2=A0
from FreeBSD and had very basic filesystem and networking= w/o tcp. Later we added zfs and
tcp from FreeBSD. We chose not to start w/ FreeBSD as a base since rea= ping it down would have been very hard.
=C2=A0

Roger.


--047d7bdc853ca1a5a904fc5d41d5-- --===============0823703494883726069== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============0823703494883726069==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 10:47:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:47:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz1mR-0006E1-H5; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:47:19 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz1mP-0006Dw-Ep for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:47:17 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:14528] by server-2.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 7B/F3-13558-4B508A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:47:16 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1403520434!11744333!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.175] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.6 required=7.0 tests=HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28859 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 10:47:15 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f175.google.com) (209.85.212.175) by server-16.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 10:47:15 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id r20so3981409wiv.2 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 03:47:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=20oYef26F5ZRBCn6+0xy51URlEGdqDJJMDJXKRsWR54=; b=ewoPERu9FyuqNMhomzE1JN94QmZAyQM7h5YwTkPuf0fPRundssh7lCS4oFUrlmI3HA MUfSuIm2en+gxUEzK0sAS0PSwksy/FZqoUfWHipmS2qcT9OaWDYarIO8+P5qTGEVovQN C4cMP8IyUO8sEx6gkJBoejI9oNcjP/hVmNyHZkDw2jl16m47Xj5mP6EtO90HJjsq/FOM NjHPeEy4P5Zxud4Ef/40UKLBtFyRSAlyGXeHDzLIZsWHyfNCGl6Zh+deJqh9hXBs1jyr PZx2eay4I3dQlUM4sdacg5C1M2PddFsBDqR8Kkpd2zgSIqNWOY1XkHI6fT7MoP+WuL2e ix5g== X-Received: by 10.180.198.44 with SMTP id iz12mr25003526wic.49.1403520434550; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 03:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i3sm32246045wiz.13.2014.06.23.03.47.12 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Jun 2014 03:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:47:09 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> In-Reply-To: Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5865143621318717975==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5865143621318717975== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000103080500010905000606" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000103080500010905000606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org > > wrote: > > http://www.businesscloudnews.com/2014/06/19/hot-metal-how-virtualisation-is-no-longer-synonymous-with-cloud/ > > > Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, > it's a write from scratch plus > ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article). > > Check out our recent blog posts: > http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/ > http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/ Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two parts and started promoting them on our social media channels. @George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7909622 and http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker community (also given that there is a chance that at some point the packaging part of Docker may support other environments that LXC). Ideas? Regards Lars --------------000103080500010905000606 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote:
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, it's a write from scratch plus
ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article).

Check out our recent blog posts:

Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two parts and started promoting them on our social media channels.

@George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7909622 and http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/

I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker community (also given that there is a chance that at some point the packaging part of Docker may support other environments that LXC).

Ideas?

Regards
Lars
 --------------000103080500010905000606-- --===============5865143621318717975== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============5865143621318717975==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 10:47:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:47:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz1mR-0006E1-H5; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:47:19 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz1mP-0006Dw-Ep for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:47:17 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:14528] by server-2.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 7B/F3-13558-4B508A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:47:16 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1403520434!11744333!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.175] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.6 required=7.0 tests=HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28859 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 10:47:15 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f175.google.com) (209.85.212.175) by server-16.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 10:47:15 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id r20so3981409wiv.2 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 03:47:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=20oYef26F5ZRBCn6+0xy51URlEGdqDJJMDJXKRsWR54=; b=ewoPERu9FyuqNMhomzE1JN94QmZAyQM7h5YwTkPuf0fPRundssh7lCS4oFUrlmI3HA MUfSuIm2en+gxUEzK0sAS0PSwksy/FZqoUfWHipmS2qcT9OaWDYarIO8+P5qTGEVovQN C4cMP8IyUO8sEx6gkJBoejI9oNcjP/hVmNyHZkDw2jl16m47Xj5mP6EtO90HJjsq/FOM NjHPeEy4P5Zxud4Ef/40UKLBtFyRSAlyGXeHDzLIZsWHyfNCGl6Zh+deJqh9hXBs1jyr PZx2eay4I3dQlUM4sdacg5C1M2PddFsBDqR8Kkpd2zgSIqNWOY1XkHI6fT7MoP+WuL2e ix5g== X-Received: by 10.180.198.44 with SMTP id iz12mr25003526wic.49.1403520434550; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 03:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i3sm32246045wiz.13.2014.06.23.03.47.12 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Jun 2014 03:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:47:09 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> In-Reply-To: Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5865143621318717975==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5865143621318717975== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000103080500010905000606" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000103080500010905000606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org > > wrote: > > http://www.businesscloudnews.com/2014/06/19/hot-metal-how-virtualisation-is-no-longer-synonymous-with-cloud/ > > > Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, > it's a write from scratch plus > ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article). > > Check out our recent blog posts: > http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/ > http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/ Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two parts and started promoting them on our social media channels. @George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7909622 and http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker community (also given that there is a chance that at some point the packaging part of Docker may support other environments that LXC). Ideas? 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On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote:
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, it's a write from scratch plus
ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article).

Check out our recent blog posts:

Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two parts and started promoting them on our social media channels.

@George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7909622 and http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/

I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker community (also given that there is a chance that at some point the packaging part of Docker may support other environments that LXC).

Ideas?

Regards
Lars
 --------------000103080500010905000606-- --===============5865143621318717975== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============5865143621318717975==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 10:59:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:59:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz1yI-0006fv-Nt; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:59:34 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz1yG-0006fn-Is for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:59:32 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:9483] by server-7.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id E7/45-03657-39808A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:59:31 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1403521164!11404765!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5020 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 10:59:28 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 10:59:28 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,529,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="146089095" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2014 10:59:24 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 06:59:23 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz1y7-00045w-MS; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:59:23 +0100 Message-ID: <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:58:27 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3267998366747648171==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3267998366747648171== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070304060707070005070104" --------------070304060707070005070104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Length: 2433 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/23/2014 11:47 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org >> > > wrote: >> >> http://www.businesscloudnews.com/2014/06/19/hot-metal-how-virtualisation-is-no-longer-synonymous-with-cloud/ >> >> >> Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on >> Linux, it's a write from scratch plus >> ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article). >> >> Check out our recent blog posts: >> http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/ >> http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/ > > Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two > parts and started promoting them on our social media channels. > > @George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post > xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to > various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is > https://news.ycombinator.com/item=3Fid=3D7909622 and > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ > > I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker community > (also given that there is a chance that at some point the packaging > part of Docker may support other environments that LXC). I don't think we'd be picking a fight with the Docker community -- one of the main RedHat guys working on Docker is also a security guy, and has basically said "Docker is for distribution, not for security": http://www.youtube.com/watch=3Fv=3DVLK7F3B0pFg And a guy who actually works for Docker originally wrote this (in August 2013) http://blog.docker.com/2013/08/containers-docker-how-secure-are-they/ "Virtual Machines might be more secure today, but containers are definitely catching up; and containers are already easier to manage, and therefore it=E2=80=99s easier to make sure that they are up-to-update from a security standpoint. But in a presentation in January 2014, basically said that the road to "bulletproof containers" was to run one container per VM: http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security It might make sense to just comment on the whole security thing -- particularly w/ Docker 1.0 out recently. Let me see what I can come up with. -George --------------070304060707070005070104 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Length: 5789 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 06/23/2014 11:47 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote:
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, it's a write from scratch plus
ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article).

Check out our recent blog posts:

Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two parts and started promoting them on our social media channels.

@George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is https://news.ycombinator.com/item=3Fid=3D7909622 and http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/

I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker community (also given that there is a chance that at some point the packaging part of Docker may support other environments that LXC).

I don't think we'd be picking a fight with the Docker community -- one of the main RedHat guys working on Docker is also a security guy, and has basically said "Docker is for distribution, not for security":

http://www.youtube.com/watch=3Fv=3DVLK7F3B0pFg

And a guy who actually works for Docker originally wrote this (in August 2013)

http://blog.docker.com/2013/08/containers-docker-how-secure-are-they/

"Virtual Machines might be more secure today, but containers are definitely catching up; and containers are already easier to manage, and therefore it=E2=80=99s easier to make sure that they are up-to-update from a security standpoint.

But in a presentation in January 2014, basically said that the road to "bulletproof containers" was to run one container per VM:

http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security

It might make sense to just comment on the whole security thing -- particularly w/ Docker 1.0 out recently.=C2=A0 Let me see what I can come up with.

=C2=A0-George
--------------070304060707070005070104-- --===============3267998366747648171== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============3267998366747648171==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 10:59:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:59:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz1yI-0006fv-Nt; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:59:34 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz1yG-0006fn-Is for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:59:32 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:9483] by server-7.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id E7/45-03657-39808A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:59:31 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1403521164!11404765!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5020 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 10:59:28 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-8.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 10:59:28 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,529,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="146089095" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2014 10:59:24 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 06:59:23 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz1y7-00045w-MS; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:59:23 +0100 Message-ID: <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:58:27 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3267998366747648171==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3267998366747648171== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070304060707070005070104" --------------070304060707070005070104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Length: 2433 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/23/2014 11:47 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org >> > > wrote: >> >> http://www.businesscloudnews.com/2014/06/19/hot-metal-how-virtualisation-is-no-longer-synonymous-with-cloud/ >> >> >> Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on >> Linux, it's a write from scratch plus >> ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article). >> >> Check out our recent blog posts: >> http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/ >> http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/ > > Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two > parts and started promoting them on our social media channels. > > @George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post > xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to > various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is > https://news.ycombinator.com/item=3Fid=3D7909622 and > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ > > I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker community > (also given that there is a chance that at some point the packaging > part of Docker may support other environments that LXC). I don't think we'd be picking a fight with the Docker community -- one of the main RedHat guys working on Docker is also a security guy, and has basically said "Docker is for distribution, not for security": http://www.youtube.com/watch=3Fv=3DVLK7F3B0pFg And a guy who actually works for Docker originally wrote this (in August 2013) http://blog.docker.com/2013/08/containers-docker-how-secure-are-they/ "Virtual Machines might be more secure today, but containers are definitely catching up; and containers are already easier to manage, and therefore it=E2=80=99s easier to make sure that they are up-to-update from a security standpoint. But in a presentation in January 2014, basically said that the road to "bulletproof containers" was to run one container per VM: http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security It might make sense to just comment on the whole security thing -- particularly w/ Docker 1.0 out recently. Let me see what I can come up with. -George --------------070304060707070005070104 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Length: 5789 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 06/23/2014 11:47 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote:
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, it's a write from scratch plus
ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article).

Check out our recent blog posts:

Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two parts and started promoting them on our social media channels.

@George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is https://news.ycombinator.com/item=3Fid=3D7909622 and http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/

I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker community (also given that there is a chance that at some point the packaging part of Docker may support other environments that LXC).

I don't think we'd be picking a fight with the Docker community -- one of the main RedHat guys working on Docker is also a security guy, and has basically said "Docker is for distribution, not for security":

http://www.youtube.com/watch=3Fv=3DVLK7F3B0pFg

And a guy who actually works for Docker originally wrote this (in August 2013)

http://blog.docker.com/2013/08/containers-docker-how-secure-are-they/

"Virtual Machines might be more secure today, but containers are definitely catching up; and containers are already easier to manage, and therefore it=E2=80=99s easier to make sure that they are up-to-update from a security standpoint.

But in a presentation in January 2014, basically said that the road to "bulletproof containers" was to run one container per VM:

http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security

It might make sense to just comment on the whole security thing -- particularly w/ Docker 1.0 out recently.=C2=A0 Let me see what I can come up with.

=C2=A0-George
--------------070304060707070005070104-- --===============3267998366747648171== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============3267998366747648171==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 11:35:13 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:35:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz2Wm-0000mi-RP; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:35:12 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz2Wk-0000md-SC for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:35:11 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:21871] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 64/EB-16194-EE018A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:35:10 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1403523307!13163609!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.175] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 24701 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 11:35:08 -0000 Received: from mail-we0-f175.google.com (HELO mail-we0-f175.google.com) (74.125.82.175) by server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 11:35:08 -0000 Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id k48so6798161wev.34 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 04:35:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=qLj3IiFFiMu+n7Tm2f2ZhRaRktOHzvCw228kFceV/C8=; b=PS24KKy/sdyN+AOVLvnvCtHxvBdZ8Jx6+ydzP9+NMsg/dlPnxeDUMa0ii+GEXqiYd2 31VtLRuCfLd/x6S4txj34612Fhz5DV1ZUU/4ORaYSR4GI5pjIcM+P+mXpXBgfNBzVCdx GSKHwapfWltmb3OE0OAu6nRKgQPFv0O5ykXsxkIRQbkKj1VbdVihuRR+k5uZmwBeipvA hcBtHqwVDqMh1BfVPQFcJn86/csEjDBkf5QiIVAA2flXmtOFL07hwBBQf1kPWPLyYA4U ceZmXuGnBpv0k1knYgmCZUpEWuCNSaSBM75fiAyXF3hymSFkWnZ3Pt3saKCetzNsEwQ9 T2dw== X-Received: by 10.180.75.75 with SMTP id a11mr25684992wiw.3.1403523305892; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 04:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ft17sm35741193wjc.14.2014.06.23.04.35.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Jun 2014 04:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 12:35:00 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Dunlap , Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8837592435363586183==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8837592435363586183== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000006060202010604090602" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000006060202010604090602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 23/06/2014 11:58, George Dunlap wrote: > On 06/23/2014 11:47 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: >> On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> http://www.businesscloudnews.com/2014/06/19/hot-metal-how-virtualisation-is-no-longer-synonymous-with-cloud/ >>> >>> >>> Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on >>> Linux, it's a write from scratch plus >>> ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article). >>> >>> Check out our recent blog posts: >>> http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/ >>> http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/ >> >> Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two >> parts and started promoting them on our social media channels. >> >> @George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post >> xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to >> various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is >> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7909622 and >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ >> >> I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker >> community (also given that there is a chance that at some point the >> packaging part of Docker may support other environments that LXC). > > I don't think we'd be picking a fight with the Docker community -- one > of the main RedHat guys working on Docker is also a security guy, and > has basically said "Docker is for distribution, not for security": > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLK7F3B0pFg > > And a guy who actually works for Docker originally wrote this (in > August 2013) > > http://blog.docker.com/2013/08/containers-docker-how-secure-are-they/ > > "Virtual Machines might be more secure today, but containers are > definitely catching up; and containers are already easier to manage, > and therefore it’s easier to make sure that they are up-to-update from > a security standpoint. > > But in a presentation in January 2014, basically said that the road to > "bulletproof containers" was to run one container per VM: > > http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security > > It might make sense to just comment on the whole security thing -- > particularly w/ Docker 1.0 out recently. Let me see what I can come > up with. > > -George Cool. It doesn't have to be long. Lars --------------000006060202010604090602 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 23/06/2014 11:58, George Dunlap wrote:
On 06/23/2014 11:47 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote:
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, it's a write from scratch plus
ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article).

Check out our recent blog posts:

Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two parts and started promoting them on our social media channels.

@George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7909622 and http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/

I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker community (also given that there is a chance that at some point the packaging part of Docker may support other environments that LXC).

I don't think we'd be picking a fight with the Docker community -- one of the main RedHat guys working on Docker is also a security guy, and has basically said "Docker is for distribution, not for security":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLK7F3B0pFg

And a guy who actually works for Docker originally wrote this (in August 2013)

http://blog.docker.com/2013/08/containers-docker-how-secure-are-they/

"Virtual Machines might be more secure today, but containers are definitely catching up; and containers are already easier to manage, and therefore it’s easier to make sure that they are up-to-update from a security standpoint.

But in a presentation in January 2014, basically said that the road to "bulletproof containers" was to run one container per VM:

http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security

It might make sense to just comment on the whole security thing -- particularly w/ Docker 1.0 out recently.  Let me see what I can come up with.

 -George
Cool. It doesn't have to be long.
Lars
--------------000006060202010604090602-- --===============8837592435363586183== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============8837592435363586183==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 11:35:13 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:35:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz2Wm-0000mi-RP; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:35:12 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz2Wk-0000md-SC for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:35:11 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:21871] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 64/EB-16194-EE018A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:35:10 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1403523307!13163609!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.175] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 24701 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 11:35:08 -0000 Received: from mail-we0-f175.google.com (HELO mail-we0-f175.google.com) (74.125.82.175) by server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 11:35:08 -0000 Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id k48so6798161wev.34 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 04:35:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=qLj3IiFFiMu+n7Tm2f2ZhRaRktOHzvCw228kFceV/C8=; b=PS24KKy/sdyN+AOVLvnvCtHxvBdZ8Jx6+ydzP9+NMsg/dlPnxeDUMa0ii+GEXqiYd2 31VtLRuCfLd/x6S4txj34612Fhz5DV1ZUU/4ORaYSR4GI5pjIcM+P+mXpXBgfNBzVCdx GSKHwapfWltmb3OE0OAu6nRKgQPFv0O5ykXsxkIRQbkKj1VbdVihuRR+k5uZmwBeipvA hcBtHqwVDqMh1BfVPQFcJn86/csEjDBkf5QiIVAA2flXmtOFL07hwBBQf1kPWPLyYA4U ceZmXuGnBpv0k1knYgmCZUpEWuCNSaSBM75fiAyXF3hymSFkWnZ3Pt3saKCetzNsEwQ9 T2dw== X-Received: by 10.180.75.75 with SMTP id a11mr25684992wiw.3.1403523305892; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 04:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ft17sm35741193wjc.14.2014.06.23.04.35.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Jun 2014 04:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 12:35:00 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Dunlap , Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8837592435363586183==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8837592435363586183== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000006060202010604090602" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000006060202010604090602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 23/06/2014 11:58, George Dunlap wrote: > On 06/23/2014 11:47 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: >> On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> http://www.businesscloudnews.com/2014/06/19/hot-metal-how-virtualisation-is-no-longer-synonymous-with-cloud/ >>> >>> >>> Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on >>> Linux, it's a write from scratch plus >>> ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article). >>> >>> Check out our recent blog posts: >>> http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/ >>> http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/ >> >> Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two >> parts and started promoting them on our social media channels. >> >> @George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post >> xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to >> various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is >> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7909622 and >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ >> >> I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker >> community (also given that there is a chance that at some point the >> packaging part of Docker may support other environments that LXC). > > I don't think we'd be picking a fight with the Docker community -- one > of the main RedHat guys working on Docker is also a security guy, and > has basically said "Docker is for distribution, not for security": > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLK7F3B0pFg > > And a guy who actually works for Docker originally wrote this (in > August 2013) > > http://blog.docker.com/2013/08/containers-docker-how-secure-are-they/ > > "Virtual Machines might be more secure today, but containers are > definitely catching up; and containers are already easier to manage, > and therefore it’s easier to make sure that they are up-to-update from > a security standpoint. > > But in a presentation in January 2014, basically said that the road to > "bulletproof containers" was to run one container per VM: > > http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security > > It might make sense to just comment on the whole security thing -- > particularly w/ Docker 1.0 out recently. Let me see what I can come > up with. > > -George Cool. It doesn't have to be long. Lars --------------000006060202010604090602 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 23/06/2014 11:58, George Dunlap wrote:
On 06/23/2014 11:47 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote:
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, it's a write from scratch plus
ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article).

Check out our recent blog posts:

Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two parts and started promoting them on our social media channels.

@George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7909622 and http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/

I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker community (also given that there is a chance that at some point the packaging part of Docker may support other environments that LXC).

I don't think we'd be picking a fight with the Docker community -- one of the main RedHat guys working on Docker is also a security guy, and has basically said "Docker is for distribution, not for security":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLK7F3B0pFg

And a guy who actually works for Docker originally wrote this (in August 2013)

http://blog.docker.com/2013/08/containers-docker-how-secure-are-they/

"Virtual Machines might be more secure today, but containers are definitely catching up; and containers are already easier to manage, and therefore it’s easier to make sure that they are up-to-update from a security standpoint.

But in a presentation in January 2014, basically said that the road to "bulletproof containers" was to run one container per VM:

http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security

It might make sense to just comment on the whole security thing -- particularly w/ Docker 1.0 out recently.  Let me see what I can come up with.

 -George
Cool. It doesn't have to be long.
Lars
--------------000006060202010604090602-- --===============8837592435363586183== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============8837592435363586183==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 16:05:40 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:05:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz6kV-0007qN-Ql; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:05:39 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz6kU-0007qC-FH for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:05:38 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:51469] by server-5.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 08/43-27487-15058A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:05:37 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1403539533!11850182!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11773 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 16:05:35 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-11.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 16:05:35 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,530,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="146466596" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2014 16:05:18 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 12:00:30 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz6fV-0000NB-Ns; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:00:29 +0100 Message-ID: <53A84EE5.5060005@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:59:33 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0629195183811040382==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============0629195183811040382== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030700010600090306060705" --------------030700010600090306060705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Length: 2766 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/23/2014 12:35 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 23/06/2014 11:58, George Dunlap wrote: >> On 06/23/2014 11:47 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: >>> On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote: >>>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> http://www.businesscloudnews.com/2014/06/19/hot-metal-how-virtualisation-is-no-longer-synonymous-with-cloud/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on >>>> Linux, it's a write from scratch plus >>>> ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article). >>>> >>>> Check out our recent blog posts: >>>> http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/ >>>> http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/ >>> >>> Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two >>> parts and started promoting them on our social media channels. >>> >>> @George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post >>> xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to >>> various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is >>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item=3Fid=3D7909622 and >>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ >>> >>> I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker >>> community (also given that there is a chance that at some point the >>> packaging part of Docker may support other environments that LXC). >> >> I don't think we'd be picking a fight with the Docker community -- >> one of the main RedHat guys working on Docker is also a security guy, >> and has basically said "Docker is for distribution, not for security": >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch=3Fv=3DVLK7F3B0pFg >> >> And a guy who actually works for Docker originally wrote this (in >> August 2013) >> >> http://blog.docker.com/2013/08/containers-docker-how-secure-are-they/ >> >> "Virtual Machines might be more secure today, but containers are >> definitely catching up; and containers are already easier to manage, >> and therefore it=E2=80=99s easier to make sure that they are up-to-update >> from a security standpoint. >> >> But in a presentation in January 2014, basically said that the road >> to "bulletproof containers" was to run one container per VM: >> >> http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security >> >> It might make sense to just comment on the whole security thing -- >> particularly w/ Docker 1.0 out recently. Let me see what I can come >> up with. >> >> -George > Cool. It doesn't have to be long. Draft here: http://blog.xen.org/=3Fp=3D9687&preview=3Dtrue -George --------------030700010600090306060705 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Length: 7057 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 06/23/2014 12:35 PM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 23/06/2014 11:58, George Dunlap wrote:
On 06/23/2014 11:47 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote:
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, it's a write from scratch plus
ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article).

Check out our recent blog posts:

Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two parts and started promoting them on our social media channels.

@George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is https://news.ycombinator.com/item=3Fid=3D7909622 and http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/

I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker community (also given that there is a chance that at some point the packaging part of Docker may support other environments that LXC).

I don't think we'd be picking a fight with the Docker community -- one of the main RedHat guys working on Docker is also a security guy, and has basically said "Docker is for distribution, not for security":

http://www.youtube.com/watch=3Fv=3DVLK7F3B0pFg

And a guy who actually works for Docker originally wrote this (in August 2013)

http://blog.docker.com/2013/08/containers-docker-how-secure-are-they/

"Virtual Machines might be more secure today, but containers are definitely catching up; and containers are already easier to manage, and therefore it=E2=80=99s easier to make sure that they are up-to-update from a security standpoint.

But in a presentation in January 2014, basically said that the road to "bulletproof containers" was to run one container per VM:

http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security

It might make sense to just comment on the whole security thing -- particularly w/ Docker 1.0 out recently.=C2=A0 Let me see what I can come up with.

=C2=A0-George
Cool. It doesn't have to be long.

Draft here:

http://blog.xen.org/=3Fp=3D9687&preview=3Dtrue

=C2=A0-George
--------------030700010600090306060705-- --===============0629195183811040382== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============0629195183811040382==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 16:05:40 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:05:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz6kV-0007qN-Ql; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:05:39 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz6kU-0007qC-FH for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:05:38 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:51469] by server-5.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 08/43-27487-15058A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:05:37 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1403539533!11850182!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11773 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 16:05:35 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-11.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 16:05:35 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,530,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="146466596" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2014 16:05:18 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 12:00:30 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz6fV-0000NB-Ns; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:00:29 +0100 Message-ID: <53A84EE5.5060005@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:59:33 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0629195183811040382==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============0629195183811040382== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030700010600090306060705" --------------030700010600090306060705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Length: 2766 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/23/2014 12:35 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 23/06/2014 11:58, George Dunlap wrote: >> On 06/23/2014 11:47 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: >>> On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote: >>>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> http://www.businesscloudnews.com/2014/06/19/hot-metal-how-virtualisation-is-no-longer-synonymous-with-cloud/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on >>>> Linux, it's a write from scratch plus >>>> ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article). >>>> >>>> Check out our recent blog posts: >>>> http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/ >>>> http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/ >>> >>> Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two >>> parts and started promoting them on our social media channels. >>> >>> @George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post >>> xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to >>> various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is >>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item=3Fid=3D7909622 and >>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ >>> >>> I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker >>> community (also given that there is a chance that at some point the >>> packaging part of Docker may support other environments that LXC). >> >> I don't think we'd be picking a fight with the Docker community -- >> one of the main RedHat guys working on Docker is also a security guy, >> and has basically said "Docker is for distribution, not for security": >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch=3Fv=3DVLK7F3B0pFg >> >> And a guy who actually works for Docker originally wrote this (in >> August 2013) >> >> http://blog.docker.com/2013/08/containers-docker-how-secure-are-they/ >> >> "Virtual Machines might be more secure today, but containers are >> definitely catching up; and containers are already easier to manage, >> and therefore it=E2=80=99s easier to make sure that they are up-to-update >> from a security standpoint. >> >> But in a presentation in January 2014, basically said that the road >> to "bulletproof containers" was to run one container per VM: >> >> http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security >> >> It might make sense to just comment on the whole security thing -- >> particularly w/ Docker 1.0 out recently. Let me see what I can come >> up with. >> >> -George > Cool. It doesn't have to be long. Draft here: http://blog.xen.org/=3Fp=3D9687&preview=3Dtrue -George --------------030700010600090306060705 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Length: 7057 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 06/23/2014 12:35 PM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 23/06/2014 11:58, George Dunlap wrote:
On 06/23/2014 11:47 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 20/06/2014 22:22, Dor Laor wrote:
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, lars.kurth@xen.org <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting blog and timing. Actually OSv isn't based at all on Linux, it's a write from scratch plus
ZFS (I wasn't interviewed to this article).

Check out our recent blog posts:

Dor, thanks for pointing these out. I already noticed the first two parts and started promoting them on our social media channels.

@George: I was wondering whether maybe a short blog post xenproject.org pointing out that there is a debate and linking to various stories in the last week may make sense. Also related is https://news.ycombinator.com/item=3Fid=3D7909622 and http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/

I am not sure it makes sense to pick a fight with the Docker community (also given that there is a chance that at some point the packaging part of Docker may support other environments that LXC).

I don't think we'd be picking a fight with the Docker community -- one of the main RedHat guys working on Docker is also a security guy, and has basically said "Docker is for distribution, not for security":

http://www.youtube.com/watch=3Fv=3DVLK7F3B0pFg

And a guy who actually works for Docker originally wrote this (in August 2013)

http://blog.docker.com/2013/08/containers-docker-how-secure-are-they/

"Virtual Machines might be more secure today, but containers are definitely catching up; and containers are already easier to manage, and therefore it=E2=80=99s easier to make sure that they are up-to-update from a security standpoint.

But in a presentation in January 2014, basically said that the road to "bulletproof containers" was to run one container per VM:

http://www.slideshare.net/jpetazzo/linux-containers-lxc-docker-and-security

It might make sense to just comment on the whole security thing -- particularly w/ Docker 1.0 out recently.=C2=A0 Let me see what I can come up with.

=C2=A0-George
Cool. It doesn't have to be long.

Draft here:

http://blog.xen.org/=3Fp=3D9687&preview=3Dtrue

=C2=A0-George
--------------030700010600090306060705-- --===============0629195183811040382== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============0629195183811040382==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 16:25:54 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:25:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz745-00007y-NZ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:25:53 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz743-00007s-Iy for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:25:52 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:63702] by server-6.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id FC/A0-13066-E0558A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:25:50 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1403540749!7722084!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.6 required=7.0 tests=HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25544 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 16:25:49 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f43.google.com) (74.125.82.43) by server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 16:25:49 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id b13so6535538wgh.2 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:25:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=1XLssUUxkytkDtSDqqGRS7roXROBf4hytybuuNpWavU=; b=XcuiN1oIUqdrR8jlzIxMEXlzb87/0fAMWXksx/JK6yLZ0dblQz/NELxz0Keo9S7UVc 0QA+ZOQ96DLee8SQZ7CiBG6Fz/86quXFIOuxzkjl1eIj4tPyKMN5RSkn79rZJpP8HXis 1RaJq7jqGNS2Z+O+11AL/385cTfpLHEk9m/OuF7eNGBgaAOcuu2xlKSD9M5tSbLZO+sb 6gcX1BQOMnlie86K6yNHGY0UVt2hX0CrOVEE5N1PzNLg5xfNFZ/xvx09CISFIgHt3VsR l7MkO9Izs70Wx7gOiAkT1BRIdAaE/g/aKjSeKktqb8Wx96HOzisuROUdXBE9rwzXhOwa phzg== X-Received: by 10.194.78.141 with SMTP id b13mr5283803wjx.111.1403540748844; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ww4sm9653102wjc.4.2014.06.23.09.25.47 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53A8550A.8080808@xen.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:25:46 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Dunlap , Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> <53A84EE5.5060005@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <53A84EE5.5060005@eu.citrix.com> Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0648015316534909754==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0648015316534909754== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090200010004040908070601" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090200010004040908070601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 23/06/2014 16:59, George Dunlap wrote: > > Draft here: > > http://blog.xen.org/?p=9687&preview=true > > -George Good. How about adding a sentence to Then last week, with timing that seems rather spiteful, someone released an exploit that allows a process running as root within a Docker container to break out of a Docker container. Something like ... This caused a discussion of the merits of hypervisors vs. containers in a number of places, e.g. http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ , http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/, ... Regards Lars --------------090200010004040908070601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 23/06/2014 16:59, George Dunlap wrote:

Draft here:

http://blog.xen.org/?p=9687&preview=true

 -George
Good. How about adding a sentence to

Then last week, with timing that seems rather spiteful, someone released an <a href=http://blog.docker.com/2014/06/docker-container-breakout-proof-of-concept-exploit>exploit</a> that allows a process running as root within a Docker container to break out of a Docker container.

Something like ...

This caused a discussion of the merits of hypervisors vs. containers in a number of places, e.g.
http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/,
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ ,
http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/, ...

Regards
Lars
--------------090200010004040908070601-- --===============0648015316534909754== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============0648015316534909754==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 16:25:54 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:25:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz745-00007y-NZ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:25:53 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz743-00007s-Iy for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:25:52 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:63702] by server-6.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id FC/A0-13066-E0558A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:25:50 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1403540749!7722084!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.6 required=7.0 tests=HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25544 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 16:25:49 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f43.google.com) (74.125.82.43) by server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 16:25:49 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id b13so6535538wgh.2 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:25:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=1XLssUUxkytkDtSDqqGRS7roXROBf4hytybuuNpWavU=; b=XcuiN1oIUqdrR8jlzIxMEXlzb87/0fAMWXksx/JK6yLZ0dblQz/NELxz0Keo9S7UVc 0QA+ZOQ96DLee8SQZ7CiBG6Fz/86quXFIOuxzkjl1eIj4tPyKMN5RSkn79rZJpP8HXis 1RaJq7jqGNS2Z+O+11AL/385cTfpLHEk9m/OuF7eNGBgaAOcuu2xlKSD9M5tSbLZO+sb 6gcX1BQOMnlie86K6yNHGY0UVt2hX0CrOVEE5N1PzNLg5xfNFZ/xvx09CISFIgHt3VsR l7MkO9Izs70Wx7gOiAkT1BRIdAaE/g/aKjSeKktqb8Wx96HOzisuROUdXBE9rwzXhOwa phzg== X-Received: by 10.194.78.141 with SMTP id b13mr5283803wjx.111.1403540748844; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ww4sm9653102wjc.4.2014.06.23.09.25.47 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53A8550A.8080808@xen.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:25:46 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Dunlap , Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> <53A84EE5.5060005@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <53A84EE5.5060005@eu.citrix.com> Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0648015316534909754==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0648015316534909754== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090200010004040908070601" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090200010004040908070601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 23/06/2014 16:59, George Dunlap wrote: > > Draft here: > > http://blog.xen.org/?p=9687&preview=true > > -George Good. How about adding a sentence to Then last week, with timing that seems rather spiteful, someone released an exploit that allows a process running as root within a Docker container to break out of a Docker container. Something like ... This caused a discussion of the merits of hypervisors vs. containers in a number of places, e.g. http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ , http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/, ... Regards Lars --------------090200010004040908070601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 23/06/2014 16:59, George Dunlap wrote:

Draft here:

http://blog.xen.org/?p=9687&preview=true

 -George
Good. How about adding a sentence to

Then last week, with timing that seems rather spiteful, someone released an <a href=http://blog.docker.com/2014/06/docker-container-breakout-proof-of-concept-exploit>exploit</a> that allows a process running as root within a Docker container to break out of a Docker container.

Something like ...

This caused a discussion of the merits of hypervisors vs. containers in a number of places, e.g.
http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/,
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ ,
http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/, ...

Regards
Lars
--------------090200010004040908070601-- --===============0648015316534909754== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============0648015316534909754==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 16:44:11 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:44:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7Lm-0001jo-S0; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:44:10 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7Ll-0001jj-No for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:44:10 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:47945] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 64/93-06539-95958A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:44:09 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1403541846!5208746!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26076 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 16:44:07 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-2.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 16:44:07 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,531,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="146224386" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2014 16:44:06 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 12:44:05 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7Lh-0001Au-1p; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:44:05 +0100 Message-ID: <53A8591C.1040706@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:43:08 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> <53A84EE5.5060005@eu.citrix.com> <53A8550A.8080808@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <53A8550A.8080808@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8293455898753735466==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============8293455898753735466== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030200060207000202020709" --------------030200060207000202020709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/23/2014 05:25 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 23/06/2014 16:59, George Dunlap wrote: >> >> Draft here: >> >> http://blog.xen.org/?p=9687&preview=true >> >> -George > Good. How about adding a sentence to > > Then last week, with timing that seems rather spiteful, someone > released an href=http://blog.docker.com/2014/06/docker-container-breakout-proof-of-concept-exploit>exploit > that allows a process running as root within a Docker container to > break out of a Docker container. > > Something like ... > > This caused a discussion of the merits of hypervisors vs. containers > in a number of places, e.g. > http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/, > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ , > http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/, ... OK, I've updated it. Let me know what you think. -George --------------030200060207000202020709 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 06/23/2014 05:25 PM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 23/06/2014 16:59, George Dunlap wrote:

Draft here:

http://blog.xen.org/?p=9687&preview=true

 -George
Good. How about adding a sentence to

Then last week, with timing that seems rather spiteful, someone released an <a href=http://blog.docker.com/2014/06/docker-container-breakout-proof-of-concept-exploit>exploit</a> that allows a process running as root within a Docker container to break out of a Docker container.

Something like ...

This caused a discussion of the merits of hypervisors vs. containers in a number of places, e.g.
http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/,
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ ,
http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/, ...

OK, I've updated it.  Let me know what you think.

 -George
--------------030200060207000202020709-- --===============8293455898753735466== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============8293455898753735466==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 16:44:11 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:44:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7Lm-0001jo-S0; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:44:10 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7Ll-0001jj-No for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:44:10 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:47945] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 64/93-06539-95958A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:44:09 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1403541846!5208746!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26076 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 16:44:07 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-2.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 16:44:07 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,531,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="146224386" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2014 16:44:06 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 12:44:05 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7Lh-0001Au-1p; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:44:05 +0100 Message-ID: <53A8591C.1040706@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:43:08 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> <53A84EE5.5060005@eu.citrix.com> <53A8550A.8080808@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <53A8550A.8080808@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8293455898753735466==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============8293455898753735466== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030200060207000202020709" --------------030200060207000202020709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/23/2014 05:25 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 23/06/2014 16:59, George Dunlap wrote: >> >> Draft here: >> >> http://blog.xen.org/?p=9687&preview=true >> >> -George > Good. How about adding a sentence to > > Then last week, with timing that seems rather spiteful, someone > released an href=http://blog.docker.com/2014/06/docker-container-breakout-proof-of-concept-exploit>exploit > that allows a process running as root within a Docker container to > break out of a Docker container. > > Something like ... > > This caused a discussion of the merits of hypervisors vs. containers > in a number of places, e.g. > http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/, > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ , > http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/, ... OK, I've updated it. Let me know what you think. -George --------------030200060207000202020709 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 06/23/2014 05:25 PM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 23/06/2014 16:59, George Dunlap wrote:

Draft here:

http://blog.xen.org/?p=9687&preview=true

 -George
Good. How about adding a sentence to

Then last week, with timing that seems rather spiteful, someone released an <a href=http://blog.docker.com/2014/06/docker-container-breakout-proof-of-concept-exploit>exploit</a> that allows a process running as root within a Docker container to break out of a Docker container.

Something like ...

This caused a discussion of the merits of hypervisors vs. containers in a number of places, e.g.
http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/,
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security/ ,
http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-2/, ...

OK, I've updated it.  Let me know what you think.

 -George
--------------030200060207000202020709-- --===============8293455898753735466== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============8293455898753735466==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 16:47:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:47:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7PK-0001kT-6C; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:47:50 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7PJ-0001kO-7Y for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:47:49 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:22476] by server-6.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 89/05-13066-43A58A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:47:48 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1403542067!13104118!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18045 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 16:47:47 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f43.google.com) (74.125.82.43) by server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 16:47:47 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id b13so6565333wgh.2 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:47:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=mZqZOJ4WUnIRovl8nK17DwbDnBfzq2dwGIK0zpf0X0k=; b=w9udAQdXUpla+wxUCgIVCY/F3xANcMdTmC9jmQBLqnY9GZ2KIubrUiTc03cC0gyXEA 8VvKaT6+Nz0AwMmt551BlODlaI6+AngVoZev1YnRxVI8w1ryn8BgteEunfq27p9fNC+p Sw/VEfGCVjClUioMvdTZiZDtiROroUZi6BFUNEQjNNBtel2wRP9ErlZaC438RrRThCEs Y8qlGcu0+KBFBP4maI3CEKIGfTB5TRaidITESQtXb5AnuIFlqXInsI2Lll8zZ/dwpYS8 WSsQo1SWjVkEZgZngxRdef1EQeX+b9FLcd9KMu9lY8Ajmh776fH7h4xMjbJX4VvH5eIh eNJw== X-Received: by 10.194.63.196 with SMTP id i4mr29617800wjs.50.1403542067222; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f6sm34903785wiy.19.2014.06.23.09.47.45 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53A85A2E.1040006@xen.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:47:42 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Dunlap , Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> <53A84EE5.5060005@eu.citrix.com> <53A8550A.8080808@xen.org> <53A8591C.1040706@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <53A8591C.1040706@eu.citrix.com> Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0524548379811382065==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0524548379811382065== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060304090206070500030807" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060304090206070500030807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 23/06/2014 17:43, George Dunlap wrote: > > OK, I've updated it. Let me know what you think. > > -George That's perfect. Feel free to press the button Lars --------------060304090206070500030807 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 23/06/2014 17:43, George Dunlap wrote:

OK, I've updated it.  Let me know what you think.

 -George
That's perfect. Feel free to press the button
Lars
--------------060304090206070500030807-- --===============0524548379811382065== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============0524548379811382065==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 16:47:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:47:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7PK-0001kT-6C; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:47:50 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7PJ-0001kO-7Y for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:47:49 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:22476] by server-6.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 89/05-13066-43A58A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:47:48 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1403542067!13104118!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18045 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 16:47:47 -0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-wg0-f43.google.com) (74.125.82.43) by server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 16:47:47 -0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id b13so6565333wgh.2 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:47:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=mZqZOJ4WUnIRovl8nK17DwbDnBfzq2dwGIK0zpf0X0k=; b=w9udAQdXUpla+wxUCgIVCY/F3xANcMdTmC9jmQBLqnY9GZ2KIubrUiTc03cC0gyXEA 8VvKaT6+Nz0AwMmt551BlODlaI6+AngVoZev1YnRxVI8w1ryn8BgteEunfq27p9fNC+p Sw/VEfGCVjClUioMvdTZiZDtiROroUZi6BFUNEQjNNBtel2wRP9ErlZaC438RrRThCEs Y8qlGcu0+KBFBP4maI3CEKIGfTB5TRaidITESQtXb5AnuIFlqXInsI2Lll8zZ/dwpYS8 WSsQo1SWjVkEZgZngxRdef1EQeX+b9FLcd9KMu9lY8Ajmh776fH7h4xMjbJX4VvH5eIh eNJw== X-Received: by 10.194.63.196 with SMTP id i4mr29617800wjs.50.1403542067222; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f6sm34903785wiy.19.2014.06.23.09.47.45 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53A85A2E.1040006@xen.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:47:42 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Dunlap , Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> <53A84EE5.5060005@eu.citrix.com> <53A8550A.8080808@xen.org> <53A8591C.1040706@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <53A8591C.1040706@eu.citrix.com> Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0524548379811382065==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0524548379811382065== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060304090206070500030807" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060304090206070500030807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 23/06/2014 17:43, George Dunlap wrote: > > OK, I've updated it. Let me know what you think. > > -George That's perfect. Feel free to press the button Lars --------------060304090206070500030807 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 23/06/2014 17:43, George Dunlap wrote:

OK, I've updated it.  Let me know what you think.

 -George
That's perfect. Feel free to press the button
Lars
--------------060304090206070500030807-- --===============0524548379811382065== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============0524548379811382065==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 17:07:32 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:07:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7iN-0002Qc-Eq; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:07:31 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7iM-0002QW-O4 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:07:30 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:36215] by server-3.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id C7/08-22179-2DE58A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:07:30 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1403543248!13138592!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 32568 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 17:07:29 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 17:07:29 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,531,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="146232881" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2014 17:07:27 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 13:07:27 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7iI-0001ad-TK; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:07:26 +0100 Message-ID: <53A85E96.3080600@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:06:30 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> <53A84EE5.5060005@eu.citrix.com> <53A8550A.8080808@xen.org> <53A8591C.1040706@eu.citrix.com> <53A85A2E.1040006@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <53A85A2E.1040006@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8644276537370795295==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============8644276537370795295== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060109040107040008010402" --------------060109040107040008010402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/23/2014 05:47 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 23/06/2014 17:43, George Dunlap wrote: >> >> OK, I've updated it. Let me know what you think. >> >> -George > That's perfect. Feel free to press the button > Lars Done. -George --------------060109040107040008010402 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 06/23/2014 05:47 PM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 23/06/2014 17:43, George Dunlap wrote:

OK, I've updated it.  Let me know what you think.

 -George
That's perfect. Feel free to press the button
Lars

Done.

 -George
--------------060109040107040008010402-- --===============8644276537370795295== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============8644276537370795295==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 17:07:32 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:07:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7iN-0002Qc-Eq; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:07:31 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7iM-0002QW-O4 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:07:30 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:36215] by server-3.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id C7/08-22179-2DE58A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:07:30 +0000 X-Env-Sender: George.Dunlap@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1403543248!13138592!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 32568 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 17:07:29 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 17:07:29 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,531,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="146232881" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL02.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2014 17:07:27 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.79) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 13:07:27 -0400 Received: from elijah.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.24]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz7iI-0001ad-TK; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:07:26 +0100 Message-ID: <53A85E96.3080600@eu.citrix.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:06:30 +0100 From: George Dunlap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Dor Laor , "lars.kurth@xen.org" References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> <53A84EE5.5060005@eu.citrix.com> <53A8550A.8080808@xen.org> <53A8591C.1040706@eu.citrix.com> <53A85A2E.1040006@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <53A85A2E.1040006@xen.org> X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8644276537370795295==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============8644276537370795295== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060109040107040008010402" --------------060109040107040008010402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/23/2014 05:47 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 23/06/2014 17:43, George Dunlap wrote: >> >> OK, I've updated it. Let me know what you think. >> >> -George > That's perfect. Feel free to press the button > Lars Done. -George --------------060109040107040008010402 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 06/23/2014 05:47 PM, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 23/06/2014 17:43, George Dunlap wrote:

OK, I've updated it.  Let me know what you think.

 -George
That's perfect. Feel free to press the button
Lars

Done.

 -George
--------------060109040107040008010402-- --===============8644276537370795295== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============8644276537370795295==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 18:38:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:38:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz98M-0005Jt-LQ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:38:26 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz98K-0005Jo-Py for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:38:24 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:38934] by server-14.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 8A/76-27057-02478A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:38:24 +0000 X-Env-Sender: wei.liu2@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1403548701!7408225!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 17384 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 18:38:23 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-11.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 18:38:23 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,531,1400025600"; d="scan'208";a="146264132" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2014 18:38:21 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 14:38:20 -0400 Received: from zion.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.73]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz98G-0002jo-DN; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:38:20 +0100 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:38:20 +0100 From: Wei Liu To: George Dunlap Message-ID: <20140623183820.GA25885@zion.uk.xensource.com> References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> <53A84EE5.5060005@eu.citrix.com> <53A8550A.8080808@xen.org> <53A8591C.1040706@eu.citrix.com> <53A85A2E.1040006@xen.org> <53A85E96.3080600@eu.citrix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53A85E96.3080600@eu.citrix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "lars.kurth@xen.org" , Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 06:06:30PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > On 06/23/2014 05:47 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > >On 23/06/2014 17:43, George Dunlap wrote: > >> > >>OK, I've updated it. Let me know what you think. > >> > >> -George > >That's perfect. Feel free to press the button > >Lars > > Done. > FYI I fixed the hyperlink to the presentation while I read that blog post. Wei. > -George > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 23 18:38:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:38:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz98M-0005Jt-LQ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:38:26 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz98K-0005Jo-Py for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:38:24 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:38934] by server-14.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 8A/76-27057-02478A35; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:38:24 +0000 X-Env-Sender: wei.liu2@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1403548701!7408225!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 17384 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 18:38:23 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-11.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 18:38:23 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,531,1400025600"; d="scan'208";a="146264132" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2014 18:38:21 +0000 Received: from ukmail1.uk.xensource.com (10.80.16.128) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 14:38:20 -0400 Received: from zion.uk.xensource.com ([10.80.2.73]) by ukmail1.uk.xensource.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wz98G-0002jo-DN; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:38:20 +0100 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:38:20 +0100 From: Wei Liu To: George Dunlap Message-ID: <20140623183820.GA25885@zion.uk.xensource.com> References: <9jd8vxojlvoedobrdutmlo7a.1403254015902@email.android.com> <53A805AD.5060205@xen.org> <53A80853.9000602@eu.citrix.com> <53A810E4.7070804@xen.org> <53A84EE5.5060005@eu.citrix.com> <53A8550A.8080808@xen.org> <53A8591C.1040706@eu.citrix.com> <53A85A2E.1040006@xen.org> <53A85E96.3080600@eu.citrix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53A85E96.3080600@eu.citrix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "lars.kurth@xen.org" , Publicity list Subject: Re: [Publicity] Another interesting article X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 06:06:30PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > On 06/23/2014 05:47 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: > >On 23/06/2014 17:43, George Dunlap wrote: > >> > >>OK, I've updated it. Let me know what you think. > >> > >> -George > >That's perfect. Feel free to press the button > >Lars > > Done. > FYI I fixed the hyperlink to the presentation while I read that blog post. Wei. > -George > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 30 10:24:10 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:24:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1X1Ykr-0002ww-7U; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:24:09 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1X1Ykp-0002wX-WF for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:24:08 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:38987] by server-15.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 72/DC-15813-7CA31B35; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:24:07 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1404123846!14516045!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.169] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25543 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2014 10:24:06 -0000 Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (HELO mail-we0-f169.google.com) (74.125.82.169) by server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Jun 2014 10:24:06 -0000 Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t60so7967995wes.28 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 03:24:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JV8DCUkb89smpozIAr2vlr+kQs7JAP2oo5/c4M8VEnM=; b=xC+pyoPmDpIbw5GYO/kEkekKJqY+MWzPIpJw1hL62aJckS+SJ0KNn+LMNKEswhOqtm 1UmFG/kNekY3Rd4Z/qbLhGFC+LNM3KFftZpnBWcd4PwvTDVdZaKiv3OmapEh93P4wewG Nzu3kbf0MvQL/23BH1958GiyRyf5XgX+qoNUbHTym2HRChbZ1R/ay0cQ/mda8RI02dA6 b9J1L05EaYYBKWeCfVyWR3mRIIkANNB00hom6GKefuagzORS2zZbGkynilpfqdO2TZns FGGAAIfKR3G6ytdGEqsUxWR5dhsZlewwv5gsPhJkcBzHdFyPDeJtHe1RSYk6DE2jgZNK LwAQ== X-Received: by 10.194.48.103 with SMTP id k7mr42843723wjn.68.1404123846529; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 03:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gh16sm29867201wic.3.2014.06.30.03.24.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Jun 2014 03:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53B13AC3.8070302@xen.org> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:24:03 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" , Russell Pavlicek Subject: [Publicity] XCP migration X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org It seems that most XCP content has been moved now. You should make a blog, xen-users and xapi list announcement linking to the original vote Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 30 10:24:10 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:24:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1X1Ykr-0002ww-7U; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:24:09 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1X1Ykp-0002wX-WF for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:24:08 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:38987] by server-15.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 72/DC-15813-7CA31B35; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:24:07 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1404123846!14516045!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.169] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25543 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2014 10:24:06 -0000 Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (HELO mail-we0-f169.google.com) (74.125.82.169) by server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Jun 2014 10:24:06 -0000 Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t60so7967995wes.28 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 03:24:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JV8DCUkb89smpozIAr2vlr+kQs7JAP2oo5/c4M8VEnM=; b=xC+pyoPmDpIbw5GYO/kEkekKJqY+MWzPIpJw1hL62aJckS+SJ0KNn+LMNKEswhOqtm 1UmFG/kNekY3Rd4Z/qbLhGFC+LNM3KFftZpnBWcd4PwvTDVdZaKiv3OmapEh93P4wewG Nzu3kbf0MvQL/23BH1958GiyRyf5XgX+qoNUbHTym2HRChbZ1R/ay0cQ/mda8RI02dA6 b9J1L05EaYYBKWeCfVyWR3mRIIkANNB00hom6GKefuagzORS2zZbGkynilpfqdO2TZns FGGAAIfKR3G6ytdGEqsUxWR5dhsZlewwv5gsPhJkcBzHdFyPDeJtHe1RSYk6DE2jgZNK LwAQ== X-Received: by 10.194.48.103 with SMTP id k7mr42843723wjn.68.1404123846529; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 03:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (97e5a5cd.skybroadband.com. [151.229.165.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gh16sm29867201wic.3.2014.06.30.03.24.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Jun 2014 03:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53B13AC3.8070302@xen.org> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:24:03 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" , Russell Pavlicek Subject: [Publicity] XCP migration X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org It seems that most XCP content has been moved now. You should make a blog, xen-users and xapi list announcement linking to the original vote Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 30 11:14:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:14:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1X1ZXa-0007KB-Sd; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:14:30 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1X1ZXZ-0007Jl-F5 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:14:29 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:50917] by server-3.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id E0/A8-13460-49641B35; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:14:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1404126865!14541633!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 10783 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2014 11:14:27 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-8.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Jun 2014 11:14:27 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,574,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="148585982" Received: from sjcpex01cl01.citrite.net ([10.216.14.143]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 30 Jun 2014 11:14:25 +0000 Received: from SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.3.122]) by SJCPEX01CL01.citrite.net ([10.216.14.143]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 04:14:24 -0700 From: Russell Pavlicek To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" , "lars.kurth@xen.org" Thread-Topic: XCP migration Thread-Index: AQHPlE1vD8BLJeX59UmRzKmLD7Bd8ZuJgEqm Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:14:23 +0000 Message-ID: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26EA29F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> References: <53B13AC3.8070302@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <53B13AC3.8070302@xen.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Publicity] XCP migration X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2567896972486675900==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============2567896972486675900== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26EA29FSJCPEX01CL03citri_" --_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26EA29FSJCPEX01CL03citri_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Agreed. I will do so. Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com) -----Original Message----- From: Lars Kurth [lars.kurth@xen.org] Received: Monday, 30 Jun 2014, 6:24AM To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org [publicity@lists.xenproject.org]; Russel= l Pavlicek [russell.pavlicek@citrix.com] Subject: XCP migration It seems that most XCP content has been moved now. You should make a blog, xen-users and xapi list announcement linking to the original vote Lars --_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26EA29FSJCPEX01CL03citri_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Agreed. I will do so.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Lars Kurth [lars.kurth@xen.org]
Received: Monday, 30 Jun 2014, 6:24AM
To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org [publicity@lists.xenproject.org];= Russell Pavlicek [russell.pavlicek@citrix.com]
Subject: XCP migration

It seems that most XCP content has been moved now.=
You should make a blog, xen-users and xapi list announcement linking to the original vote
Lars

 --_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26EA29FSJCPEX01CL03citri_-- --===============2567896972486675900== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============2567896972486675900==-- From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Jun 30 11:14:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:14:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1X1ZXa-0007KB-Sd; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:14:30 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1X1ZXZ-0007Jl-F5 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:14:29 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:50917] by server-3.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id E0/A8-13460-49641B35; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:14:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: russell.pavlicek@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1404126865!14541633!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 10783 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2014 11:14:27 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-8.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Jun 2014 11:14:27 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,574,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="148585982" Received: from sjcpex01cl01.citrite.net ([10.216.14.143]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 30 Jun 2014 11:14:25 +0000 Received: from SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.3.122]) by SJCPEX01CL01.citrite.net ([10.216.14.143]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 04:14:24 -0700 From: Russell Pavlicek To: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" , "lars.kurth@xen.org" Thread-Topic: XCP migration Thread-Index: AQHPlE1vD8BLJeX59UmRzKmLD7Bd8ZuJgEqm Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:14:23 +0000 Message-ID: <55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26EA29F@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> References: <53B13AC3.8070302@xen.org> In-Reply-To: <53B13AC3.8070302@xen.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Publicity] XCP migration X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2567896972486675900==" Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============2567896972486675900== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26EA29FSJCPEX01CL03citri_" --_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26EA29FSJCPEX01CL03citri_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Agreed. I will do so. Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com) -----Original Message----- From: Lars Kurth [lars.kurth@xen.org] Received: Monday, 30 Jun 2014, 6:24AM To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org [publicity@lists.xenproject.org]; Russel= l Pavlicek [russell.pavlicek@citrix.com] Subject: XCP migration It seems that most XCP content has been moved now. You should make a blog, xen-users and xapi list announcement linking to the original vote Lars --_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26EA29FSJCPEX01CL03citri_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Agreed. I will do so.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Lars Kurth [lars.kurth@xen.org]
Received: Monday, 30 Jun 2014, 6:24AM
To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org [publicity@lists.xenproject.org];= Russell Pavlicek [russell.pavlicek@citrix.com]
Subject: XCP migration

It seems that most XCP content has been moved now.=
You should make a blog, xen-users and xapi list announcement linking to the original vote
Lars

 --_000_55E78A57290FB64FA0D3CF672F9F3DA26EA29FSJCPEX01CL03citri_-- --===============2567896972486675900== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity --===============2567896972486675900==--