From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Oct 01 10:19:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:19:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhaxC-0008Bl-SW; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:19:10 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhaxB-0008Bd-MW for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:19:09 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-1.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 1B/E9-01421-C980D065; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:19:08 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=7093bb682=wei.liu2@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1443694746!44896195!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16641 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2015 10:19:07 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-6.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Oct 2015 10:19:07 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,616,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="307344393" Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 11:16:30 +0100 From: Wei Liu To: Russ Pavlicek Message-ID: <20151001101630.GC1492@zion.uk.xensource.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 02:50:45PM -0400, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > I'd say sooner rather than later. We've got a blog from Wei about 4.6 > features coming. I'd like to do one more push for the San Antonio > event next week. And then we'll have the release announcement. > Things are stacking up quickly -- and that's assuming that we have > nothing else to write about for the next 10 days. > FWIW I think the post about 4.6 will be published around October 13, so this one can probably go live next week if there is nothing else in the pipeline. Wei. > I'd suggest publishing tomorrow. > > Russ > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Stefano Stabellini > wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I wrote a short blog post to cover last week announcement that Xen is > >> available in CentOS 7 ARM64: > >> > >> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11041&preview=true > > > > When do you think it would be appropriate for me to publish it? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Oct 01 10:19:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:19:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhaxC-0008Bl-SW; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:19:10 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhaxB-0008Bd-MW for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:19:09 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-1.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 1B/E9-01421-C980D065; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:19:08 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=7093bb682=wei.liu2@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1443694746!44896195!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16641 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2015 10:19:07 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-6.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Oct 2015 10:19:07 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,616,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="307344393" Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 11:16:30 +0100 From: Wei Liu To: Russ Pavlicek Message-ID: <20151001101630.GC1492@zion.uk.xensource.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 02:50:45PM -0400, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > I'd say sooner rather than later. We've got a blog from Wei about 4.6 > features coming. I'd like to do one more push for the San Antonio > event next week. And then we'll have the release announcement. > Things are stacking up quickly -- and that's assuming that we have > nothing else to write about for the next 10 days. > FWIW I think the post about 4.6 will be published around October 13, so this one can probably go live next week if there is nothing else in the pipeline. Wei. > I'd suggest publishing tomorrow. > > Russ > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Stefano Stabellini > wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I wrote a short blog post to cover last week announcement that Xen is > >> available in CentOS 7 ARM64: > >> > >> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11041&preview=true > > > > When do you think it would be appropriate for me to publish it? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Oct 01 10:35:02 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:35:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhbCX-0001ib-Am; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:35:01 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhbCW-0001iW-0b for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:35:00 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147] by server-5.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id E5/9F-00475-35C0D065; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:34:59 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=709d50aec=Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1443695697!22363387!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18169 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2015 10:34:58 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Oct 2015 10:34:58 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,616,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="307346564" Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 11:32:39 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Russ Pavlicek In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org All right, thanks. I think today or tomorrow would be fine. On Wed, 30 Sep 2015, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > I'd say sooner rather than later. We've got a blog from Wei about 4.6 > features coming. I'd like to do one more push for the San Antonio > event next week. And then we'll have the release announcement. > Things are stacking up quickly -- and that's assuming that we have > nothing else to write about for the next 10 days. > > I'd suggest publishing tomorrow. > > Russ > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Stefano Stabellini > wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I wrote a short blog post to cover last week announcement that Xen is > >> available in CentOS 7 ARM64: > >> > >> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11041&preview=true > > > > When do you think it would be appropriate for me to publish it? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Oct 01 10:35:02 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:35:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhbCX-0001ib-Am; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:35:01 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhbCW-0001iW-0b for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:35:00 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147] by server-5.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id E5/9F-00475-35C0D065; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:34:59 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=709d50aec=Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1443695697!22363387!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18169 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2015 10:34:58 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-16.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Oct 2015 10:34:58 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,616,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="307346564" Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 11:32:39 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Russ Pavlicek In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org All right, thanks. I think today or tomorrow would be fine. On Wed, 30 Sep 2015, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > I'd say sooner rather than later. We've got a blog from Wei about 4.6 > features coming. I'd like to do one more push for the San Antonio > event next week. And then we'll have the release announcement. > Things are stacking up quickly -- and that's assuming that we have > nothing else to write about for the next 10 days. > > I'd suggest publishing tomorrow. > > Russ > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Stefano Stabellini > wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I wrote a short blog post to cover last week announcement that Xen is > >> available in CentOS 7 ARM64: > >> > >> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11041&preview=true > > > > When do you think it would be appropriate for me to publish it? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Oct 01 11:16:07 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:16:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhbqJ-0006Tf-6y; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:16:07 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhbqH-0006TW-Sn for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:16:05 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147] by server-10.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id B5/A0-01143-5F51D065; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:16:05 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=709d50aec=Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1443698160!54686977!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 22995 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2015 11:16:01 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Oct 2015 11:16:01 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,617,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="303600201" Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:13:42 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Wei Liu In-Reply-To: <20151001101630.GC1492@zion.uk.xensource.com> Message-ID: References: <20151001101630.GC1492@zion.uk.xensource.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Thu, 1 Oct 2015, Wei Liu wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 02:50:45PM -0400, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > > I'd say sooner rather than later. We've got a blog from Wei about 4.6 > > features coming. I'd like to do one more push for the San Antonio > > event next week. And then we'll have the release announcement. > > Things are stacking up quickly -- and that's assuming that we have > > nothing else to write about for the next 10 days. > > > > FWIW I think the post about 4.6 will be published around October 13, so > this one can probably go live next week if there is nothing else in the > pipeline. I spoke with Lars about it too and scheduled the publication for Monday morning UK time. > > I'd suggest publishing tomorrow. > > > > Russ > > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Stefano Stabellini > > wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> I wrote a short blog post to cover last week announcement that Xen is > > >> available in CentOS 7 ARM64: > > >> > > >> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11041&preview=true > > > > > > When do you think it would be appropriate for me to publish it? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Publicity mailing list > > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Oct 01 11:16:07 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:16:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhbqJ-0006Tf-6y; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:16:07 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhbqH-0006TW-Sn for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:16:05 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147] by server-10.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id B5/A0-01143-5F51D065; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:16:05 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=709d50aec=Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1443698160!54686977!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 22995 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2015 11:16:01 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Oct 2015 11:16:01 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,617,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="303600201" Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:13:42 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Wei Liu In-Reply-To: <20151001101630.GC1492@zion.uk.xensource.com> Message-ID: References: <20151001101630.GC1492@zion.uk.xensource.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Thu, 1 Oct 2015, Wei Liu wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 02:50:45PM -0400, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > > I'd say sooner rather than later. We've got a blog from Wei about 4.6 > > features coming. I'd like to do one more push for the San Antonio > > event next week. And then we'll have the release announcement. > > Things are stacking up quickly -- and that's assuming that we have > > nothing else to write about for the next 10 days. > > > > FWIW I think the post about 4.6 will be published around October 13, so > this one can probably go live next week if there is nothing else in the > pipeline. I spoke with Lars about it too and scheduled the publication for Monday morning UK time. > > I'd suggest publishing tomorrow. > > > > Russ > > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Stefano Stabellini > > wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> I wrote a short blog post to cover last week announcement that Xen is > > >> available in CentOS 7 ARM64: > > >> > > >> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11041&preview=true > > > > > > When do you think it would be appropriate for me to publish it? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Publicity mailing list > > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publicity mailing list > > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 02 10:27:53 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:27:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhxZA-00080X-7v; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:27:52 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhxZ9-00080S-OH for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:27:51 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147] by server-7.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id F4/C6-28221-72C5E065; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:27:51 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1443781669!22180016!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.174] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12536 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2015 10:27:50 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f174.google.com) (209.85.212.174) by server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Oct 2015 10:27:50 -0000 Received: by wicgb1 with SMTP id gb1so26450314wic.1 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 03:27:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=8zhXkLMnfkx9lTeIVSaoxg858DWpd0Sq3etj7iM+wMw=; b=QH4rqxShKMgjJ1R1MWmGtEWVwZ077ipPtfW8rXGrwwPvgNNwjHDkdVwTPZKIPo/ie6 CY9cQBJagPjKCRw1zUe1tGaqb+LG1kZQNHYE+2fzxyuPv762gDqBQIvJ0sKv654+rcUg UUyesch/Bk2q+cR8QQ+aJOzO4LE7k+U0+3/l60a/8TjvzUiE/423ga1Lq360WuQwDXxE QI0Alwn9t8Gv9x57LLMkuxAxgkEBB59QCrBQGMw30Cm+1nw5oFEaEviXmFE+LC1sX+Ei P0ty1KgjD4br1bIGoogVltxJEGqaiN0nveRDp8RSHjisRxUQFfy6HnpBDkdzhkUimakR CIeg== X-Received: by 10.180.9.74 with SMTP id x10mr3268478wia.61.1443781669661; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 03:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (97e3cc8b.skybroadband.com. [151.227.204.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h8sm7665093wib.21.2015.10.02.03.27.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 02 Oct 2015 03:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 11:27:43 +0100 Message-Id: <6EB5A612-D781-447D-94B0-26F743013DFA@gmail.com> References: <20151001101630.GC1492@zion.uk.xensource.com> To: Stefano Stabellini X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org > On 1 Oct 2015, at 12:13, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Oct 2015, Wei Liu wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 02:50:45PM -0400, Russ Pavlicek wrote: >>> I'd say sooner rather than later. We've got a blog from Wei about 4.6 >>> features coming. I'd like to do one more push for the San Antonio >>> event next week. And then we'll have the release announcement. >>> Things are stacking up quickly -- and that's assuming that we have >>> nothing else to write about for the next 10 days. >>> >> >> FWIW I think the post about 4.6 will be published around October 13, so >> this one can probably go live next week if there is nothing else in the >> pipeline. > > I spoke with Lars about it too and scheduled the publication for Monday > morning UK time. The rationale is due to the 4.6 announcement: "Since the 4.6 release is going out officially on 10/9, Sarah suggested that we should push out the press release time (including blog post, etc.) to the following Tuesday, October 13th. This gives us extra cushion for approving a quote from members, and we are pushing it out earlier in the week rather than later." ... Earlier in the week is better, as we will reach more people. Otherwise the post looks great: some minor comments/questions > You can easily extend the root partition and filesystem to fill your entire disk. I am a little baffled about this sentence: it may be better to focus on the benefits of "extending" rather than "filling the disk", which sounds a little odd > If you are using AppliedMicro X-Gene, you need to add a Xen command line option to specify which serial serial port >to use. This is due to the firmware missing one piece of information. X-Gene firmware As an aside: does this need to be in the Xen 4.6 release notes or is this issue unrelated to 4.6? > Xen 4.6 will be released early this month and you can count on us updating the Xen rpm in CentOS 7 shortly after. how about replacing "early this month" with "shortly" or "in a few days" Excellent work Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 02 10:27:53 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:27:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhxZA-00080X-7v; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:27:52 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhxZ9-00080S-OH for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:27:51 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147] by server-7.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id F4/C6-28221-72C5E065; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:27:51 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1443781669!22180016!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.174] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12536 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2015 10:27:50 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f174.google.com) (209.85.212.174) by server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Oct 2015 10:27:50 -0000 Received: by wicgb1 with SMTP id gb1so26450314wic.1 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 03:27:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=8zhXkLMnfkx9lTeIVSaoxg858DWpd0Sq3etj7iM+wMw=; b=QH4rqxShKMgjJ1R1MWmGtEWVwZ077ipPtfW8rXGrwwPvgNNwjHDkdVwTPZKIPo/ie6 CY9cQBJagPjKCRw1zUe1tGaqb+LG1kZQNHYE+2fzxyuPv762gDqBQIvJ0sKv654+rcUg UUyesch/Bk2q+cR8QQ+aJOzO4LE7k+U0+3/l60a/8TjvzUiE/423ga1Lq360WuQwDXxE QI0Alwn9t8Gv9x57LLMkuxAxgkEBB59QCrBQGMw30Cm+1nw5oFEaEviXmFE+LC1sX+Ei P0ty1KgjD4br1bIGoogVltxJEGqaiN0nveRDp8RSHjisRxUQFfy6HnpBDkdzhkUimakR CIeg== X-Received: by 10.180.9.74 with SMTP id x10mr3268478wia.61.1443781669661; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 03:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (97e3cc8b.skybroadband.com. [151.227.204.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h8sm7665093wib.21.2015.10.02.03.27.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 02 Oct 2015 03:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 11:27:43 +0100 Message-Id: <6EB5A612-D781-447D-94B0-26F743013DFA@gmail.com> References: <20151001101630.GC1492@zion.uk.xensource.com> To: Stefano Stabellini X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org > On 1 Oct 2015, at 12:13, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Oct 2015, Wei Liu wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 02:50:45PM -0400, Russ Pavlicek wrote: >>> I'd say sooner rather than later. We've got a blog from Wei about 4.6 >>> features coming. I'd like to do one more push for the San Antonio >>> event next week. And then we'll have the release announcement. >>> Things are stacking up quickly -- and that's assuming that we have >>> nothing else to write about for the next 10 days. >>> >> >> FWIW I think the post about 4.6 will be published around October 13, so >> this one can probably go live next week if there is nothing else in the >> pipeline. > > I spoke with Lars about it too and scheduled the publication for Monday > morning UK time. The rationale is due to the 4.6 announcement: "Since the 4.6 release is going out officially on 10/9, Sarah suggested that we should push out the press release time (including blog post, etc.) to the following Tuesday, October 13th. This gives us extra cushion for approving a quote from members, and we are pushing it out earlier in the week rather than later." ... Earlier in the week is better, as we will reach more people. Otherwise the post looks great: some minor comments/questions > You can easily extend the root partition and filesystem to fill your entire disk. I am a little baffled about this sentence: it may be better to focus on the benefits of "extending" rather than "filling the disk", which sounds a little odd > If you are using AppliedMicro X-Gene, you need to add a Xen command line option to specify which serial serial port >to use. This is due to the firmware missing one piece of information. X-Gene firmware As an aside: does this need to be in the Xen 4.6 release notes or is this issue unrelated to 4.6? > Xen 4.6 will be released early this month and you can count on us updating the Xen rpm in CentOS 7 shortly after. how about replacing "early this month" with "shortly" or "in a few days" Excellent work Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 02 12:41:50 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:41:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhzen-0007Xh-0v; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:41:49 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhzel-0007Xc-Hu for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:41:47 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147] by server-1.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id CC/3B-28791-A8B7E065; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:41:46 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=710a780d1=Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1443789704!55082750!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5194 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2015 12:41:46 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Oct 2015 12:41:46 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,623,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="303891281" Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 13:38:23 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: <6EB5A612-D781-447D-94B0-26F743013DFA@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20151001101630.GC1492@zion.uk.xensource.com> <6EB5A612-D781-447D-94B0-26F743013DFA@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Fri, 2 Oct 2015, Lars Kurth wrote: > > On 1 Oct 2015, at 12:13, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > > > On Thu, 1 Oct 2015, Wei Liu wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 02:50:45PM -0400, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > >>> I'd say sooner rather than later. We've got a blog from Wei about 4.6 > >>> features coming. I'd like to do one more push for the San Antonio > >>> event next week. And then we'll have the release announcement. > >>> Things are stacking up quickly -- and that's assuming that we have > >>> nothing else to write about for the next 10 days. > >>> > >> > >> FWIW I think the post about 4.6 will be published around October 13, so > >> this one can probably go live next week if there is nothing else in the > >> pipeline. > > > > I spoke with Lars about it too and scheduled the publication for Monday > > morning UK time. > > The rationale is due to the 4.6 announcement: "Since the 4.6 release is going out officially on 10/9, Sarah suggested that we should push out the press release time (including blog post, etc.) to the following Tuesday, October 13th. This gives us extra cushion for approving a quote from members, and we are pushing it out earlier in the week rather than later." ... Earlier in the week is better, as we will reach more people. > > Otherwise the post looks great: some minor comments/questions > > > You can easily extend the root partition and filesystem to fill your entire disk. > I am a little baffled about this sentence: it may be better to focus on the benefits of "extending" rather than "filling the disk", which sounds a little odd I changed it to "You can easily extend the root partition and filesystem to match the size of your disk". > > If you are using AppliedMicro X-Gene, you need to add a Xen command line option to specify which serial > serial port > >to use. This is due to the firmware missing one piece of information. > X-Gene firmware > > As an aside: does this need to be in the Xen 4.6 release notes or is this issue unrelated to 4.6? It is unrelated > > Xen 4.6 will be released early this month and you can count on us updating the Xen rpm in CentOS 7 shortly after. > how about replacing "early this month" with "shortly" or "in a few days" I replaced it with "shortly". > Excellent work Thanks! _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 02 12:41:50 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:41:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhzen-0007Xh-0v; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:41:49 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhzel-0007Xc-Hu for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:41:47 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147] by server-1.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id CC/3B-28791-A8B7E065; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:41:46 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=710a780d1=Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1443789704!55082750!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5194 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2015 12:41:46 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Oct 2015 12:41:46 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,623,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="303891281" Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 13:38:23 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: <6EB5A612-D781-447D-94B0-26F743013DFA@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20151001101630.GC1492@zion.uk.xensource.com> <6EB5A612-D781-447D-94B0-26F743013DFA@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Publicity] Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Fri, 2 Oct 2015, Lars Kurth wrote: > > On 1 Oct 2015, at 12:13, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > > > On Thu, 1 Oct 2015, Wei Liu wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 02:50:45PM -0400, Russ Pavlicek wrote: > >>> I'd say sooner rather than later. We've got a blog from Wei about 4.6 > >>> features coming. I'd like to do one more push for the San Antonio > >>> event next week. And then we'll have the release announcement. > >>> Things are stacking up quickly -- and that's assuming that we have > >>> nothing else to write about for the next 10 days. > >>> > >> > >> FWIW I think the post about 4.6 will be published around October 13, so > >> this one can probably go live next week if there is nothing else in the > >> pipeline. > > > > I spoke with Lars about it too and scheduled the publication for Monday > > morning UK time. > > The rationale is due to the 4.6 announcement: "Since the 4.6 release is going out officially on 10/9, Sarah suggested that we should push out the press release time (including blog post, etc.) to the following Tuesday, October 13th. This gives us extra cushion for approving a quote from members, and we are pushing it out earlier in the week rather than later." ... Earlier in the week is better, as we will reach more people. > > Otherwise the post looks great: some minor comments/questions > > > You can easily extend the root partition and filesystem to fill your entire disk. > I am a little baffled about this sentence: it may be better to focus on the benefits of "extending" rather than "filling the disk", which sounds a little odd I changed it to "You can easily extend the root partition and filesystem to match the size of your disk". > > If you are using AppliedMicro X-Gene, you need to add a Xen command line option to specify which serial > serial port > >to use. This is due to the firmware missing one piece of information. > X-Gene firmware > > As an aside: does this need to be in the Xen 4.6 release notes or is this issue unrelated to 4.6? It is unrelated > > Xen 4.6 will be released early this month and you can count on us updating the Xen rpm in CentOS 7 shortly after. > how about replacing "early this month" with "shortly" or "in a few days" I replaced it with "shortly". > Excellent work Thanks! _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 09 12:59:01 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 12:59:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkXGH-0007NY-2L; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 12:59:01 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkXGF-0007NP-U1 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 12:59:00 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147] by server-15.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 10/35-18886-31AB7165; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 12:58:59 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=717a9f9c1=wei.liu2@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1444395537!24308823!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 22392 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2015 12:58:58 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Oct 2015 12:58:58 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,657,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="309200507" Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 13:58:55 +0100 From: Wei Liu To: Message-ID: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-DLP: MIA2 Subject: [Publicity] Blog post for Xen 4.6 release ready for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hi all The blog post for Xen 4.6 release is ready for review. The anticipated publish date is October 13. https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11062&preview=true Note that links to tarball etc and not yet added, and the acknowledgement page is bing filled in by Lars. Wei. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 09 12:59:01 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 12:59:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkXGH-0007NY-2L; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 12:59:01 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkXGF-0007NP-U1 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 12:59:00 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147] by server-15.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 10/35-18886-31AB7165; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 12:58:59 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=717a9f9c1=wei.liu2@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1444395537!24308823!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 22392 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2015 12:58:58 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Oct 2015 12:58:58 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,657,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="309200507" Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 13:58:55 +0100 From: Wei Liu To: Message-ID: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-DLP: MIA2 Subject: [Publicity] Blog post for Xen 4.6 release ready for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hi all The blog post for Xen 4.6 release is ready for review. The anticipated publish date is October 13. https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11062&preview=true Note that links to tarball etc and not yet added, and the acknowledgement page is bing filled in by Lars. Wei. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Oct 12 15:37:46 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:37:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlfAX-0008DD-Lu; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:37:45 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlfAW-0008D8-DO for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:37:44 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-6.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id CC/07-29649-7C3DB165; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:37:43 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=7201622bd=Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1444664217!52515390!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23960 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2015 15:37:11 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Oct 2015 15:37:11 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,673,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="305861767" Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:34:23 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Wei Liu In-Reply-To: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> Message-ID: References: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post for Xen 4.6 release ready for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org I think it would be nice to mention at the end (but maybe before the full instructions about xen.git?) that people can use Raisin to build a full Xen 4.6 system from source. They only need to: git clone git://xenbits.xen.org/raisin.git cd raisin cp configs/config-4.6 config ./raise -y build On Fri, 9 Oct 2015, Wei Liu wrote: > Hi all > > The blog post for Xen 4.6 release is ready for review. The anticipated > publish date is October 13. > > https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11062&preview=true > > Note that links to tarball etc and not yet added, and the > acknowledgement page is bing filled in by Lars. > > Wei. > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Oct 12 15:37:46 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:37:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlfAX-0008DD-Lu; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:37:45 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlfAW-0008D8-DO for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:37:44 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-6.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id CC/07-29649-7C3DB165; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:37:43 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=7201622bd=Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1444664217!52515390!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23960 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2015 15:37:11 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Oct 2015 15:37:11 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,673,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="305861767" Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:34:23 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Wei Liu In-Reply-To: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> Message-ID: References: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post for Xen 4.6 release ready for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org I think it would be nice to mention at the end (but maybe before the full instructions about xen.git?) that people can use Raisin to build a full Xen 4.6 system from source. They only need to: git clone git://xenbits.xen.org/raisin.git cd raisin cp configs/config-4.6 config ./raise -y build On Fri, 9 Oct 2015, Wei Liu wrote: > Hi all > > The blog post for Xen 4.6 release is ready for review. The anticipated > publish date is October 13. > > https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11062&preview=true > > Note that links to tarball etc and not yet added, and the > acknowledgement page is bing filled in by Lars. > > Wei. > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity > _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Oct 13 10:15:51 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:15:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlwcX-0007dZ-IK; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:15:49 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlwcW-0007dU-Db for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:15:48 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211] by server-7.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 16/2B-13905-3D9DC165; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:15:47 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1444731345!11995646!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.176] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27330 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2015 10:15:46 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f176.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f176.google.com) (209.85.212.176) by server-13.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Oct 2015 10:15:46 -0000 Received: by wicgb1 with SMTP id gb1so82613864wic.1 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:15:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=aUWRepo23Ye6auiDPsc+QhcF2kaASCp9QQzzP1aDUgg=; b=ot5jEFL8aXRhWjvGppVAcDhyJ9t6YhsxcisMWJr5K8zLHpj+AcTqZR+S8/L+ctNzMQ d/D0CVm/NmCI6VgSCunNFRBOwLiSstBmf3l6DKvZZSSn53gRjXOccajPWPijEo7S5CkH /MmpJqPdOWFFO+9GxnMAJ7P80C5LHlCx6KYbNtU3S4c+Wxj+3cSN0SDuQeETtPleMUdb ITmqB2WFor12M1gROSzbu1DG+lKrcKkMH5xvw2sHD1yVpPMQ6JXRRg57D5R1kuU7PVVd 8I7nQNqd4vKJrXId3eWKaF8Qx9KX+JCVPbZhMUe2zbEZIPQ5QrNvZJGnGXmyZVXVSLfF Rlhw== X-Received: by 10.180.35.199 with SMTP id k7mr21483886wij.13.1444731345436; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (97e3cc8b.skybroadband.com. [151.227.204.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id wt4sm2705101wjb.29.2015.10.13.03.15.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:15:42 +0100 Message-Id: <3A042692-DE77-4B86-A4B6-166598186CED@gmail.com> References: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> To: Stefano Stabellini X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post for Xen 4.6 release ready for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org > On 12 Oct 2015, at 16:34, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > I think it would be nice to mention at the end (but maybe before the > full instructions about xen.git?) that people can use Raisin to build a > full Xen 4.6 system from source. They only need to: > > git clone git://xenbits.xen.org/raisin.git > cd raisin > cp configs/config-4.6 config > ./raise -y build OK, happy to add it and possibly also to http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Project_4.6_Release_Notes (or in fact add a section called "Building with Raisin" to the release notes and link to it from the post Regards Lars > > On Fri, 9 Oct 2015, Wei Liu wrote: >> Hi all >> >> The blog post for Xen 4.6 release is ready for review. The anticipated >> publish date is October 13. >> >> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11062&preview=true >> >> Note that links to tarball etc and not yet added, and the >> acknowledgement page is bing filled in by Lars. >> >> Wei. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Oct 13 10:15:51 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:15:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlwcX-0007dZ-IK; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:15:49 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlwcW-0007dU-Db for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:15:48 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211] by server-7.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 16/2B-13905-3D9DC165; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:15:47 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1444731345!11995646!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.176] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27330 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2015 10:15:46 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f176.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f176.google.com) (209.85.212.176) by server-13.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Oct 2015 10:15:46 -0000 Received: by wicgb1 with SMTP id gb1so82613864wic.1 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:15:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=aUWRepo23Ye6auiDPsc+QhcF2kaASCp9QQzzP1aDUgg=; b=ot5jEFL8aXRhWjvGppVAcDhyJ9t6YhsxcisMWJr5K8zLHpj+AcTqZR+S8/L+ctNzMQ d/D0CVm/NmCI6VgSCunNFRBOwLiSstBmf3l6DKvZZSSn53gRjXOccajPWPijEo7S5CkH /MmpJqPdOWFFO+9GxnMAJ7P80C5LHlCx6KYbNtU3S4c+Wxj+3cSN0SDuQeETtPleMUdb ITmqB2WFor12M1gROSzbu1DG+lKrcKkMH5xvw2sHD1yVpPMQ6JXRRg57D5R1kuU7PVVd 8I7nQNqd4vKJrXId3eWKaF8Qx9KX+JCVPbZhMUe2zbEZIPQ5QrNvZJGnGXmyZVXVSLfF Rlhw== X-Received: by 10.180.35.199 with SMTP id k7mr21483886wij.13.1444731345436; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (97e3cc8b.skybroadband.com. [151.227.204.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id wt4sm2705101wjb.29.2015.10.13.03.15.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:15:42 +0100 Message-Id: <3A042692-DE77-4B86-A4B6-166598186CED@gmail.com> References: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> To: Stefano Stabellini X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post for Xen 4.6 release ready for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org > On 12 Oct 2015, at 16:34, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > I think it would be nice to mention at the end (but maybe before the > full instructions about xen.git?) that people can use Raisin to build a > full Xen 4.6 system from source. They only need to: > > git clone git://xenbits.xen.org/raisin.git > cd raisin > cp configs/config-4.6 config > ./raise -y build OK, happy to add it and possibly also to http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Project_4.6_Release_Notes (or in fact add a section called "Building with Raisin" to the release notes and link to it from the post Regards Lars > > On Fri, 9 Oct 2015, Wei Liu wrote: >> Hi all >> >> The blog post for Xen 4.6 release is ready for review. The anticipated >> publish date is October 13. >> >> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11062&preview=true >> >> Note that links to tarball etc and not yet added, and the >> acknowledgement page is bing filled in by Lars. >> >> Wei. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicity mailing list >> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org >> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity >> > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Oct 13 10:30:54 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:30:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlwr7-0000dp-U7; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:30:53 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlwr6-0000dk-PH for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:30:52 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211] by server-12.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 3C/FC-19220-C5DDC165; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:30:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=7216b799e=Ian.Campbell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1444732249!41895333!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27182 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2015 10:30:51 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Oct 2015 10:30:51 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,677,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="306057145" Message-ID: <1444732243.23192.29.camel@citrix.com> From: Ian Campbell To: Lars Kurth , Stefano Stabellini Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:30:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: <3A042692-DE77-4B86-A4B6-166598186CED@gmail.com> References: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> <3A042692-DE77-4B86-A4B6-166598186CED@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post for Xen 4.6 release ready for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 11:15 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > > On 12 Oct 2015, at 16:34, Stefano Stabellini < > > stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote: > > > > I think it would be nice to mention at the end (but maybe before the > > full instructions about xen.git?) that people can use Raisin to build a > > full Xen 4.6 system from source. They only need to: > > > > git clone git://xenbits.xen.org/raisin.git > > cd raisin > > cp configs/config-4.6 config > > ./raise -y build > > OK, happy to add it and possibly also to > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Project_4.6_Release_Notes (or in fact add a > section called "Building with Raisin" to the release notes and link to it > from the post Shouldn't we e.g. be routinely testing raisin before we promote it to being The Official(tm) way for users to build Xen and pointing to it in release notes (at least as the primary way to do things)? Ian. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Oct 13 10:30:54 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:30:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlwr7-0000dp-U7; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:30:53 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlwr6-0000dk-PH for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:30:52 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211] by server-12.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 3C/FC-19220-C5DDC165; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:30:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=7216b799e=Ian.Campbell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1444732249!41895333!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27182 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2015 10:30:51 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Oct 2015 10:30:51 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,677,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="306057145" Message-ID: <1444732243.23192.29.camel@citrix.com> From: Ian Campbell To: Lars Kurth , Stefano Stabellini Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:30:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: <3A042692-DE77-4B86-A4B6-166598186CED@gmail.com> References: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> <3A042692-DE77-4B86-A4B6-166598186CED@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post for Xen 4.6 release ready for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 11:15 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > > On 12 Oct 2015, at 16:34, Stefano Stabellini < > > stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote: > > > > I think it would be nice to mention at the end (but maybe before the > > full instructions about xen.git?) that people can use Raisin to build a > > full Xen 4.6 system from source. They only need to: > > > > git clone git://xenbits.xen.org/raisin.git > > cd raisin > > cp configs/config-4.6 config > > ./raise -y build > > OK, happy to add it and possibly also to > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Project_4.6_Release_Notes (or in fact add a > section called "Building with Raisin" to the release notes and link to it > from the post Shouldn't we e.g. be routinely testing raisin before we promote it to being The Official(tm) way for users to build Xen and pointing to it in release notes (at least as the primary way to do things)? Ian. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Oct 13 10:38:41 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:38:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlwye-0001Rk-CQ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:38:40 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlwyd-0001Rc-2S for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:38:39 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-16.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 84/EA-03763-E2FDC165; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:38:38 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=7215ef183=Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1444732716!52740583!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27315 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2015 10:38:37 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Oct 2015 10:38:37 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,677,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="309936432" Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:36:06 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Ian Campbell In-Reply-To: <1444732243.23192.29.camel@citrix.com> Message-ID: References: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> <3A042692-DE77-4B86-A4B6-166598186CED@gmail.com> <1444732243.23192.29.camel@citrix.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: Lars Kurth , publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post for Xen 4.6 release ready for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 11:15 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > > > On 12 Oct 2015, at 16:34, Stefano Stabellini < > > > stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote: > > > > > > I think it would be nice to mention at the end (but maybe before the > > > full instructions about xen.git?) that people can use Raisin to build a > > > full Xen 4.6 system from source. They only need to: > > > > > > git clone git://xenbits.xen.org/raisin.git > > > cd raisin > > > cp configs/config-4.6 config > > > ./raise -y build > > > > OK, happy to add it and possibly also to > > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Project_4.6_Release_Notes (or in fact add a > > section called "Building with Raisin" to the release notes and link to it > > from the post > > Shouldn't we e.g. be routinely testing raisin before we promote it to being > The Official(tm) way for users to build Xen and pointing to it in release > notes (at least as the primary way to do things)? It is true that Raisin is not automatically tested. Maybe we should say something along the lines of "if you want to give raisin a try..." rather than "the recommended way to get Xen 4.6 is raisin". _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Oct 13 10:38:41 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:38:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlwye-0001Rk-CQ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:38:40 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlwyd-0001Rc-2S for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:38:39 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-16.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 84/EA-03763-E2FDC165; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:38:38 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=7215ef183=Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1444732716!52740583!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27315 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2015 10:38:37 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Oct 2015 10:38:37 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,677,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="309936432" Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:36:06 +0100 From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@kaball.uk.xensource.com To: Ian Campbell In-Reply-To: <1444732243.23192.29.camel@citrix.com> Message-ID: References: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> <3A042692-DE77-4B86-A4B6-166598186CED@gmail.com> <1444732243.23192.29.camel@citrix.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: Lars Kurth , publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post for Xen 4.6 release ready for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 11:15 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > > > On 12 Oct 2015, at 16:34, Stefano Stabellini < > > > stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote: > > > > > > I think it would be nice to mention at the end (but maybe before the > > > full instructions about xen.git?) that people can use Raisin to build a > > > full Xen 4.6 system from source. They only need to: > > > > > > git clone git://xenbits.xen.org/raisin.git > > > cd raisin > > > cp configs/config-4.6 config > > > ./raise -y build > > > > OK, happy to add it and possibly also to > > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Project_4.6_Release_Notes (or in fact add a > > section called "Building with Raisin" to the release notes and link to it > > from the post > > Shouldn't we e.g. be routinely testing raisin before we promote it to being > The Official(tm) way for users to build Xen and pointing to it in release > notes (at least as the primary way to do things)? It is true that Raisin is not automatically tested. Maybe we should say something along the lines of "if you want to give raisin a try..." rather than "the recommended way to get Xen 4.6 is raisin". _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Oct 13 10:42:21 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlx2D-0001fr-NZ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:21 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlx2C-0001fW-BI for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:20 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-4.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 46/3C-09570-A00EC165; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:18 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1444732927!20787322!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.170] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 2177 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2015 10:42:10 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f170.google.com) (209.85.212.170) by server-3.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Oct 2015 10:42:10 -0000 Received: by wieq12 with SMTP id q12so25535303wie.1 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:42:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=mvrSsMFqE0wpECrVj2Nrwy8CDpEDmt3I34m+N3M2lGk=; b=Mc2QkHfYV6Vr2qZyJ7he3DR2GoZ5engNZ4BJk9OzDKIAOE8+fDj2uvpGNPAmhpDh/k hkiaVREm9rJOXEHF0CvvnH6VnHD5cwYh0asAg5845Uqvi4SH/nONo//IiazLr792Hrdj B3Ao60RLreEVkZgKjD/eu0auahqwwqcXsqzVWp8oKiWq86Bza9zaofUT/u/3B47MBXKZ 97ngN2HmbUd0zFuK6ScUN/VJRU2Gay4u4bYiZvKvVu0x+v38UAuqDozCg7OYLipXSD8H WESIsXfv3k5FgB21Re46RnldOpCU5OaYSgdZIdTfiWOtvpWXsE7lDVm0Zz2qehDF5is4 DGow== X-Received: by 10.180.189.12 with SMTP id ge12mr6411621wic.73.1444732927149; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (97e3cc8b.skybroadband.com. [151.227.204.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id xt1sm2835674wjb.32.2015.10.13.03.42.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: <1444732243.23192.29.camel@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:41:58 +0100 Message-Id: References: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> <3A042692-DE77-4B86-A4B6-166598186CED@gmail.com> <1444732243.23192.29.camel@citrix.com> To: Ian Campbell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post for Xen 4.6 release ready for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org > On 13 Oct 2015, at 11:30, Ian Campbell wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 11:15 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: >>> On 12 Oct 2015, at 16:34, Stefano Stabellini < >>> stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote: >>> >>> I think it would be nice to mention at the end (but maybe before the >>> full instructions about xen.git?) that people can use Raisin to build a >>> full Xen 4.6 system from source. They only need to: >>> >>> git clone git://xenbits.xen.org/raisin.git >>> cd raisin >>> cp configs/config-4.6 config >>> ./raise -y build >> >> OK, happy to add it and possibly also to >> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Project_4.6_Release_Notes (or in fact add a >> section called "Building with Raisin" to the release notes and link to it >> from the post > > Shouldn't we e.g. be routinely testing raisin before we promote it to being > The Official(tm) way for users to build Xen and pointing to it in release > notes (at least as the primary way to do things)? > > Ian. Good point. I switched the order: see http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Project_4.6_Release_Notes Maybe we need a warning that Raisin is still experimental Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Oct 13 10:42:21 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlx2D-0001fr-NZ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:21 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlx2C-0001fW-BI for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:20 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-4.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 46/3C-09570-A00EC165; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:18 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1444732927!20787322!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.170] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 2177 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2015 10:42:10 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f170.google.com) (209.85.212.170) by server-3.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Oct 2015 10:42:10 -0000 Received: by wieq12 with SMTP id q12so25535303wie.1 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:42:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=mvrSsMFqE0wpECrVj2Nrwy8CDpEDmt3I34m+N3M2lGk=; b=Mc2QkHfYV6Vr2qZyJ7he3DR2GoZ5engNZ4BJk9OzDKIAOE8+fDj2uvpGNPAmhpDh/k hkiaVREm9rJOXEHF0CvvnH6VnHD5cwYh0asAg5845Uqvi4SH/nONo//IiazLr792Hrdj B3Ao60RLreEVkZgKjD/eu0auahqwwqcXsqzVWp8oKiWq86Bza9zaofUT/u/3B47MBXKZ 97ngN2HmbUd0zFuK6ScUN/VJRU2Gay4u4bYiZvKvVu0x+v38UAuqDozCg7OYLipXSD8H WESIsXfv3k5FgB21Re46RnldOpCU5OaYSgdZIdTfiWOtvpWXsE7lDVm0Zz2qehDF5is4 DGow== X-Received: by 10.180.189.12 with SMTP id ge12mr6411621wic.73.1444732927149; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (97e3cc8b.skybroadband.com. [151.227.204.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id xt1sm2835674wjb.32.2015.10.13.03.42.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: <1444732243.23192.29.camel@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:41:58 +0100 Message-Id: References: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> <3A042692-DE77-4B86-A4B6-166598186CED@gmail.com> <1444732243.23192.29.camel@citrix.com> To: Ian Campbell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post for Xen 4.6 release ready for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org > On 13 Oct 2015, at 11:30, Ian Campbell wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 11:15 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: >>> On 12 Oct 2015, at 16:34, Stefano Stabellini < >>> stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote: >>> >>> I think it would be nice to mention at the end (but maybe before the >>> full instructions about xen.git?) that people can use Raisin to build a >>> full Xen 4.6 system from source. They only need to: >>> >>> git clone git://xenbits.xen.org/raisin.git >>> cd raisin >>> cp configs/config-4.6 config >>> ./raise -y build >> >> OK, happy to add it and possibly also to >> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Project_4.6_Release_Notes (or in fact add a >> section called "Building with Raisin" to the release notes and link to it >> from the post > > Shouldn't we e.g. be routinely testing raisin before we promote it to being > The Official(tm) way for users to build Xen and pointing to it in release > notes (at least as the primary way to do things)? > > Ian. Good point. I switched the order: see http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Project_4.6_Release_Notes Maybe we need a warning that Raisin is still experimental Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Oct 13 10:42:51 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlx2h-0001ks-Px; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:51 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlx2g-0001ke-HJ for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:50 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-1.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 51/24-01421-920EC165; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:49 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=7216b799e=Ian.Campbell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1444732967!52749115!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25464 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2015 10:42:48 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-10.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Oct 2015 10:42:48 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,677,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="309937014" Message-ID: <1444732964.23192.35.camel@citrix.com> From: Ian Campbell To: Stefano Stabellini Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:42:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> <3A042692-DE77-4B86-A4B6-166598186CED@gmail.com> <1444732243.23192.29.camel@citrix.com> X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: Lars Kurth , publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post for Xen 4.6 release ready for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 11:36 +0100, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, Ian Campbell wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 11:15 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > > > > On 12 Oct 2015, at 16:34, Stefano Stabellini < > > > > stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think it would be nice to mention at the end (but maybe before > > > > the > > > > full instructions about xen.git?) that people can use Raisin to > > > > build a > > > > full Xen 4.6 system from source. They only need to: > > > > > > > > git clone git://xenbits.xen.org/raisin.git > > > > cd raisin > > > > cp configs/config-4.6 config > > > > ./raise -y build > > > > > > OK, happy to add it and possibly also to > > > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Project_4.6_Release_Notes (or in fact > > > add a > > > section called "Building with Raisin" to the release notes and link > > > to it > > > from the post > > > > Shouldn't we e.g. be routinely testing raisin before we promote it to > > being > > The Official(tm) way for users to build Xen and pointing to it in > > release > > notes (at least as the primary way to do things)? > > It is true that Raisin is not automatically tested. Maybe we should say > something along the lines of "if you want to give raisin a try..." > rather than "the recommended way to get Xen 4.6 is raisin". Right. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Oct 13 10:42:51 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlx2h-0001ks-Px; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:51 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlx2g-0001ke-HJ for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:50 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-1.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 51/24-01421-920EC165; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:42:49 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=7216b799e=Ian.Campbell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1444732967!52749115!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25464 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2015 10:42:48 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-10.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Oct 2015 10:42:48 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,677,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="309937014" Message-ID: <1444732964.23192.35.camel@citrix.com> From: Ian Campbell To: Stefano Stabellini Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:42:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <20151009125855.GG20846@zion.uk.xensource.com> <3A042692-DE77-4B86-A4B6-166598186CED@gmail.com> <1444732243.23192.29.camel@citrix.com> X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: Lars Kurth , publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] Blog post for Xen 4.6 release ready for review X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 11:36 +0100, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, Ian Campbell wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 11:15 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > > > > On 12 Oct 2015, at 16:34, Stefano Stabellini < > > > > stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think it would be nice to mention at the end (but maybe before > > > > the > > > > full instructions about xen.git?) that people can use Raisin to > > > > build a > > > > full Xen 4.6 system from source. They only need to: > > > > > > > > git clone git://xenbits.xen.org/raisin.git > > > > cd raisin > > > > cp configs/config-4.6 config > > > > ./raise -y build > > > > > > OK, happy to add it and possibly also to > > > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Project_4.6_Release_Notes (or in fact > > > add a > > > section called "Building with Raisin" to the release notes and link > > > to it > > > from the post > > > > Shouldn't we e.g. be routinely testing raisin before we promote it to > > being > > The Official(tm) way for users to build Xen and pointing to it in > > release > > notes (at least as the primary way to do things)? > > It is true that Raisin is not automatically tested. Maybe we should say > something along the lines of "if you want to give raisin a try..." > rather than "the recommended way to get Xen 4.6 is raisin". 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Late submissions are unlikely to be considered.** > > * All presentation slots are 45 minutes, with 35 minutes planned for presentations, and 10 minutes for Q&A. > > * All presentations *will* be recorded and made available under Creative Commons licenses. In the "Submission notes" field, please indicate that you agree that your presentation will be licensed under the CC-By-SA-4.0 or CC-By-4.0 license and that you agree to have your presentation recorded. For example: > > "If my presentation is accepted for FOSDEM, I hereby agree to license all recordings, slides, and other associated materials under the Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 4.0 International License. Sincerely, ." > > * In the "Submission notes" field, please also confirm that if your talk is accepted, you *will* be able to attend FOSDEM and deliver your presentation. We will not consider proposals from prospective speakers who are unsure whether they will be able to secure funds for travel and lodging to attend FOSDEM. (Sadly, we are not able to offer travel funding for prospective speakers.) > > ------------------------- > How to Submit > ------------------------- > > All submissions must be made via the Pentabarf event planning site: > https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM16 > > If you have not used Pentabarf before, you will need to create an account. If you submitted proposals for FOSDEM in previous years, you can use your existing account. > > After creating the account, select "Create Event" to start the submission process. Make sure to select "Virtualization & IaaS devroom" from the Track list. > > Please fill out all the required fields, and provide a meaningful abstract and description of your proposed session. > > ------------------------- > Call for Volunteers > ------------------------- > > We are also looking for volunteers to help run the devroom. We need assistance watching time for the speakers, and helping with video for the devroom. Please contact Mikey Ariel (mariel at redhat.com) for more information. > > ------------------------- > Questions > ------------------------- > > If you have any questions about this devroom, please send your questions to: iaas-virt-devroom at lists.fosdem.org > > We will respond as quickly as possible. Thanks! > > -- > Mikey Ariel > Community Lead, oVirt > www.ovirt.org > > "To be is to do" (Socrates) > "To do is to be" (Jean-Paul Sartre) > "Do be do be do" (Frank Sinatra) > > Mobile: +420-702-131-141 > IRC: mariel / thatdocslady > Twitter: @ThatDocsLady > _______________________________________________ > devroom-managers mailing list > devroom-managers@lists.fosdem.org > https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/devroom-managers _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Oct 28 12:06:33 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:06:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrPUu-0006cv-6O; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:06:32 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrPUs-0006cV-U9; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:06:31 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-7.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 2A/F3-16965-54AB0365; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:06:29 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1446033988!57561829!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.174] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 15438 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2015 12:06:28 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f174.google.com) (209.85.212.174) by server-10.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Oct 2015 12:06:28 -0000 Received: by wicfv8 with SMTP id fv8so9973989wic.0; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 05:06:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:references :to:message-id:mime-version; bh=esesYJITiqCvLjUC2oRcL+R2LSey/y9QoChH/Jx5/h4=; b=VAEWgtylWsMbBFPVBkbCgM/+ZSxJ9Rp6HzcosBEbTXZ5Bm/DGnc9PSnDms1h9OlwN5 D2Thn3SGeZxqiqDsaqVC5Tm20Z1TrD5bh0eQWLQ7A+7TMrJkpa1kQ1nYmcOVo31+nmME CBSMAh03HJtBt+5Cm4/Rp4U5x0/MNLgGiIggMIjXAqcHeWx5m7cPNpRBgeKtzonpV+de DBArHIoXe4vTEeEK7qELqFZlJrwca39cf3A85QQSGl4pgGxWILRTLh4bZ+ye5NojVcDJ gE/5KuSt7LJ6BIW1M+QVVVmRt4KBBAeA+ChYcD1XFFsoMfKfnbRS77pg+x4rodiS+DKb lHBA== X-Received: by 10.194.116.167 with SMTP id jx7mr22344047wjb.4.1446033988360; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 05:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (97e3cc8b.skybroadband.com. [151.227.204.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bn5sm5954307wib.0.2015.10.28.05.06.27 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Oct 2015 05:06:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Lars Kurth Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:06:28 +0000 References: <56300786.5000204@redhat.com> To: Xen-devel , mirageos-devel , Win-pv-devel@lists.xenproject.org, publicity@lists.xenproject.org Message-Id: <06007853-CB66-44BE-9F2D-4AB6E5E07AA9@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Subject: [Publicity] Virtualization & IaaS Devroom CFP @ FOSDEM'16 X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Mikey Ariel > Subject: [devroom-managers] Virtualization & IaaS Devroom CFP > Date: 27 October 2015 23:23:50 GMT > To: fosdem@lists.fosdem.org, devroom-managers@lists.fosdem.org, iaas-virt-devroom@lists.fosdem.org > > **Please forward to any project or individual that might be interested in participating in this devroom!** > > ------------------------- > Call for Participation > ------------------------- > > The Virtualization & IaaS devroom will feature sessions around virtualization and Infrastructure-as-a-Service, with topics to include open source hypervisors and virtual machine managers such as KVM, Xen, bhyve, and VirtualBox, and Infrastructure-as-a-Service projects such as Apache CloudStack, OpenStack, oVirt, OpenNebula, and Ganeti. > > This devroom will host presentations and labs that focus on topics of shared interest, such as KVM, libvirt, shared storage, virtualized networking, clustering and high availability, interfacing with multiple hypervisors, and scaling across hundreds or thousands of servers. > > Presentations in this devroom will be aimed at developers working on these platforms who are looking to collaborate and improve shared infrastructure or solve common problems. > > The devroom organizers will seek topics that encourage dialog between projects and continued work post-FOSDEM. > > ------------------------- > Important Dates > ------------------------- > > Submission deadline: 1 December 2015 > Acceptance notifications: 10 December 2015 > Final schedule announcement: 17 December 2015 > Devroom: 30-31 January 2016 (two days) > > ------------------------- > Submission Guidelines: READ CAREFULLY > ------------------------- > > ** Please note that we expect more proposals than we can possibly accept, so it is vitally important that you submit your proposal on or before the deadline. Late submissions are unlikely to be considered.** > > * All presentation slots are 45 minutes, with 35 minutes planned for presentations, and 10 minutes for Q&A. > > * All presentations *will* be recorded and made available under Creative Commons licenses. In the "Submission notes" field, please indicate that you agree that your presentation will be licensed under the CC-By-SA-4.0 or CC-By-4.0 license and that you agree to have your presentation recorded. For example: > > "If my presentation is accepted for FOSDEM, I hereby agree to license all recordings, slides, and other associated materials under the Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 4.0 International License. Sincerely, ." > > * In the "Submission notes" field, please also confirm that if your talk is accepted, you *will* be able to attend FOSDEM and deliver your presentation. We will not consider proposals from prospective speakers who are unsure whether they will be able to secure funds for travel and lodging to attend FOSDEM. (Sadly, we are not able to offer travel funding for prospective speakers.) > > ------------------------- > How to Submit > ------------------------- > > All submissions must be made via the Pentabarf event planning site: > https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM16 > > If you have not used Pentabarf before, you will need to create an account. If you submitted proposals for FOSDEM in previous years, you can use your existing account. > > After creating the account, select "Create Event" to start the submission process. Make sure to select "Virtualization & IaaS devroom" from the Track list. > > Please fill out all the required fields, and provide a meaningful abstract and description of your proposed session. > > ------------------------- > Call for Volunteers > ------------------------- > > We are also looking for volunteers to help run the devroom. We need assistance watching time for the speakers, and helping with video for the devroom. Please contact Mikey Ariel (mariel at redhat.com) for more information. > > ------------------------- > Questions > ------------------------- > > If you have any questions about this devroom, please send your questions to: iaas-virt-devroom at lists.fosdem.org > > We will respond as quickly as possible. Thanks! > > -- > Mikey Ariel > Community Lead, oVirt > www.ovirt.org > > "To be is to do" (Socrates) > "To do is to be" (Jean-Paul Sartre) > "Do be do be do" (Frank Sinatra) > > Mobile: +420-702-131-141 > IRC: mariel / thatdocslady > Twitter: @ThatDocsLady > _______________________________________________ > devroom-managers mailing list > devroom-managers@lists.fosdem.org > https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/devroom-managers _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Oct 28 15:24:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:24:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrSaG-0004LP-8W; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:24:16 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrSaF-0004LK-5u for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:24:15 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211] by server-9.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 78/89-30270-E98E0365; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:24:14 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1446045853!40567688!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.170] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25213 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2015 15:24:13 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f170.google.com) (209.85.212.170) by server-10.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Oct 2015 15:24:13 -0000 Received: by wicll6 with SMTP id ll6so202552476wic.0 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 08:24:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :cc:to:mime-version; bh=2enLYQjm70dx2+knS50wvBDYxrjFeKWzP9a/Sufuz54=; b=rswV3/mks6j/35QvytYD0LR88ST3PJ8QvE+Q59z0x3WG/lgCbzxZrVtZZCYs8lSlgk FIeSzenFh3lO8Wy1MwQZ6ssFklaiqH55kgQPjhIfCfLl9FKbgTRfynHVyPySNpCQAGm0 IzXnGg0S87wmJP4MNMNLlevUUHeJ7fiMd3mJZBsLmleUs8Srif9cIN57PiAY1cUc2MAu xPzYIH5Evh1rgd2l0gzT8jIJ9GB3Bf7lKN361agTTtGYM5vbtmf88+W8WGnYX94SmOs3 2DMU1WwWBBDgnAHRUuLI95RpRuAQ6a1eI7a8QFiC+Enrdj1YF3YStVVwRkc97n9OMcU6 ZFwQ== X-Received: by 10.194.91.164 with SMTP id cf4mr33061612wjb.139.1446045853286; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 08:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (97e3cc8b.skybroadband.com. [151.227.204.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w66sm4745598wme.11.2015.10.28.08.24.08 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Oct 2015 08:24:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Lars Kurth Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:24:10 +0000 Message-Id: <9B24AD42-1CB5-4866-9875-21B143C40C35@gmail.com> To: stands@fosdem.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: [Publicity] Xen Project stand submission for FOSDEM 2016 X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Project name: Xen Project Stand description: This will be a stand for the Xen Project, a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project that develops the following virtualisation and cloud related technologies: Xen Project hypervisor (ARM and x86), Mirage OS, Embedded and Automotive PV drivers for Android, QNX and other OS'es, PV drivers for Windows, etc. We will hand out swag with Xen Project logos/mascots. We will give demos with a laptop, explain how to engage with the community, etc. We will have a background pop-up with the project mascot. Project URLs: http://xenproject.org/ the following links are accessible from the main site http://wiki.xenproject.org http://blog.xenproject.org/ http://lists.xenproject.org/ Your name and relation to the project: Lars Kurth, Community Manager of the Xen Project and Chairman of the Xen Project Advisory Board Why should FOSDEM accept this proposal? In 2013, the Xen Project became a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project. Since then, the project has built bridges to many other projects such as QEMU, the Linux Automotive Working Group, XenServer.org, OpenDayLight, OPNFV, Hyper, Android and many others. It has also intesivied bridges with Linux Distros such as CentOS, OpenSuse, ... and the BSD Distros. The project expanded into new areas, such as embedded and automotive and has steadily grown its contributor and user base. In 2013 - 2015, we had a booth at FOSDEM that was volunteer/community staffed and very well attended. Unlike some of the other stands, there was always presence by volunteers and plenty of activity at our stand. We also invited other projects which have a relationship with Xen to give demos (OSv, MirageOS, Qubes, Xen Orchestra...) of open source technology that work with and on top of Xen. We hope to build further bridges at FOSDEM and again act as a hub of collaborative activity at FOSDEM. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Oct 28 15:24:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:24:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrSaG-0004LP-8W; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:24:16 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrSaF-0004LK-5u for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:24:15 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211] by server-9.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 78/89-30270-E98E0365; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:24:14 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1446045853!40567688!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.170] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25213 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2015 15:24:13 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f170.google.com) (209.85.212.170) by server-10.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Oct 2015 15:24:13 -0000 Received: by wicll6 with SMTP id ll6so202552476wic.0 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 08:24:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :cc:to:mime-version; bh=2enLYQjm70dx2+knS50wvBDYxrjFeKWzP9a/Sufuz54=; b=rswV3/mks6j/35QvytYD0LR88ST3PJ8QvE+Q59z0x3WG/lgCbzxZrVtZZCYs8lSlgk FIeSzenFh3lO8Wy1MwQZ6ssFklaiqH55kgQPjhIfCfLl9FKbgTRfynHVyPySNpCQAGm0 IzXnGg0S87wmJP4MNMNLlevUUHeJ7fiMd3mJZBsLmleUs8Srif9cIN57PiAY1cUc2MAu xPzYIH5Evh1rgd2l0gzT8jIJ9GB3Bf7lKN361agTTtGYM5vbtmf88+W8WGnYX94SmOs3 2DMU1WwWBBDgnAHRUuLI95RpRuAQ6a1eI7a8QFiC+Enrdj1YF3YStVVwRkc97n9OMcU6 ZFwQ== X-Received: by 10.194.91.164 with SMTP id cf4mr33061612wjb.139.1446045853286; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 08:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (97e3cc8b.skybroadband.com. [151.227.204.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w66sm4745598wme.11.2015.10.28.08.24.08 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Oct 2015 08:24:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Lars Kurth Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:24:10 +0000 Message-Id: <9B24AD42-1CB5-4866-9875-21B143C40C35@gmail.com> To: stands@fosdem.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: [Publicity] Xen Project stand submission for FOSDEM 2016 X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Project name: Xen Project Stand description: This will be a stand for the Xen Project, a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project that develops the following virtualisation and cloud related technologies: Xen Project hypervisor (ARM and x86), Mirage OS, Embedded and Automotive PV drivers for Android, QNX and other OS'es, PV drivers for Windows, etc. We will hand out swag with Xen Project logos/mascots. We will give demos with a laptop, explain how to engage with the community, etc. We will have a background pop-up with the project mascot. Project URLs: http://xenproject.org/ the following links are accessible from the main site http://wiki.xenproject.org http://blog.xenproject.org/ http://lists.xenproject.org/ Your name and relation to the project: Lars Kurth, Community Manager of the Xen Project and Chairman of the Xen Project Advisory Board Why should FOSDEM accept this proposal? In 2013, the Xen Project became a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project. Since then, the project has built bridges to many other projects such as QEMU, the Linux Automotive Working Group, XenServer.org, OpenDayLight, OPNFV, Hyper, Android and many others. It has also intesivied bridges with Linux Distros such as CentOS, OpenSuse, ... and the BSD Distros. The project expanded into new areas, such as embedded and automotive and has steadily grown its contributor and user base. In 2013 - 2015, we had a booth at FOSDEM that was volunteer/community staffed and very well attended. Unlike some of the other stands, there was always presence by volunteers and plenty of activity at our stand. We also invited other projects which have a relationship with Xen to give demos (OSv, MirageOS, Qubes, Xen Orchestra...) of open source technology that work with and on top of Xen. We hope to build further bridges at FOSDEM and again act as a hub of collaborative activity at FOSDEM. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Oct 28 17:54:35 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:54:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrUvh-00045m-1a; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:54:33 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrUvf-00045h-Jv for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:54:31 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-3.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id DE/6A-01753-6DB01365; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:54:30 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1446054869!8215440!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.181] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18525 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2015 17:54:29 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f181.google.com) (209.85.212.181) by server-6.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Oct 2015 17:54:29 -0000 Received: by wicll6 with SMTP id ll6so207548052wic.0 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:54:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=/dDwLIQqTp/PmSIWRTHppeG54nNIaz4XtsClGbIB/yw=; b=N83mjuYKayB5zkPXhUyUOr0Uxbnfqj9HKrUYt6R9EcGM9dqaw7+0V2LW8KtviJE54K dkAx1g6lsTs/PNdQiZnG7Lyzqbhtf3NeMWxxluRw907wSj4/EgEhGchh3wqG2xZo1Afs Sf/KOnxkOplNBQJs4B8INHgU2y+oq9PB1+EPXi7VwBzOTTAlfOQlQ8ffpBKyVNjVaN4B ixCKFigfLjmxaj5HN4yuY+aV+v6IjYxilX3oJ1vbHIEu6taPaRibLRRMxbuysldUUKMm XUalWhwP7nEa93qttSuFzA0a1nwINd4z9doi7EolS9Ek5SpN19Shko29jn+/Bz5N9G/X CZyQ== X-Received: by 10.194.115.100 with SMTP id jn4mr30423083wjb.155.1446054869191; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (97e3cc8b.skybroadband.com. [151.227.204.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id wb11sm21838219wic.16.2015.10.28.10.54.27 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:54:29 +0000 Message-Id: References: <9B24AD42-1CB5-4866-9875-21B143C40C35@gmail.com> To: "Stella Rouzi (differentreality)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Cc: "stands@fosdem.org" , publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] [FOSDEM-Stands] Xen Project stand submission for FOSDEM 2016 X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Apologies Stella, submitted via the form now Lars > On 28 Oct 2015, at 16:20, Stella Rouzi (differentreality) wrote: > > Hello Lars, > > this year we have changed the way you apply for a stand. > > Please check the relevant announcement: > https://fosdem.org/2016/news/2015-09-24-call-for-participation/ > > And submit your request via the form provided: > https://fosdem.org/stands > > After you do that, you should receive an email acknowledging your submission. > > Thanks! > Stella > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: >> Project name: Xen Project >> >> Stand description: This will be a stand for the Xen Project, a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project that develops the following virtualisation and cloud related technologies: Xen Project hypervisor (ARM and x86), Mirage OS, Embedded and Automotive PV drivers for Android, QNX and other OS'es, PV drivers for Windows, etc. We will hand out swag with Xen Project logos/mascots. We will give demos with a laptop, explain how to engage with the community, etc. We will have a background pop-up with the project mascot. >> >> Project URLs: >> http://xenproject.org/ the following links are accessible from the main site >> http://wiki.xenproject.org >> http://blog.xenproject.org/ >> http://lists.xenproject.org/ >> >> Your name and relation to the project: Lars Kurth, Community Manager of the Xen Project and Chairman of the Xen Project Advisory Board >> >> Why should FOSDEM accept this proposal? >> >> In 2013, the Xen Project became a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project. Since then, the project has built bridges to many other projects such as QEMU, the Linux Automotive Working Group, XenServer.org, OpenDayLight, OPNFV, Hyper, Android and many others. It has also intesivied bridges with Linux Distros such as CentOS, OpenSuse, ... and the BSD Distros. The project expanded into new areas, such as embedded and automotive and has steadily grown its contributor and user base. >> >> In 2013 - 2015, we had a booth at FOSDEM that was volunteer/community staffed and very well attended. Unlike some of the other stands, there was always presence by volunteers and plenty of activity at our stand. We also invited other projects which have a relationship with Xen to give demos (OSv, MirageOS, Qubes, Xen Orchestra...) of open source technology that work with and on top of Xen. We hope to build further bridges at FOSDEM and again act as a hub of collaborative activity at FOSDEM. >> _______________________________________________ >> stands mailing list >> stands@lists.fosdem.org >> https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/stands _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Oct 28 17:54:35 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:54:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrUvh-00045m-1a; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:54:33 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrUvf-00045h-Jv for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:54:31 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-3.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id DE/6A-01753-6DB01365; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:54:30 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1446054869!8215440!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.181] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18525 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2015 17:54:29 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f181.google.com) (209.85.212.181) by server-6.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Oct 2015 17:54:29 -0000 Received: by wicll6 with SMTP id ll6so207548052wic.0 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:54:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=/dDwLIQqTp/PmSIWRTHppeG54nNIaz4XtsClGbIB/yw=; b=N83mjuYKayB5zkPXhUyUOr0Uxbnfqj9HKrUYt6R9EcGM9dqaw7+0V2LW8KtviJE54K dkAx1g6lsTs/PNdQiZnG7Lyzqbhtf3NeMWxxluRw907wSj4/EgEhGchh3wqG2xZo1Afs Sf/KOnxkOplNBQJs4B8INHgU2y+oq9PB1+EPXi7VwBzOTTAlfOQlQ8ffpBKyVNjVaN4B ixCKFigfLjmxaj5HN4yuY+aV+v6IjYxilX3oJ1vbHIEu6taPaRibLRRMxbuysldUUKMm XUalWhwP7nEa93qttSuFzA0a1nwINd4z9doi7EolS9Ek5SpN19Shko29jn+/Bz5N9G/X CZyQ== X-Received: by 10.194.115.100 with SMTP id jn4mr30423083wjb.155.1446054869191; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (97e3cc8b.skybroadband.com. [151.227.204.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id wb11sm21838219wic.16.2015.10.28.10.54.27 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:54:29 +0000 Message-Id: References: <9B24AD42-1CB5-4866-9875-21B143C40C35@gmail.com> To: "Stella Rouzi (differentreality)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Cc: "stands@fosdem.org" , publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] [FOSDEM-Stands] Xen Project stand submission for FOSDEM 2016 X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Apologies Stella, submitted via the form now Lars > On 28 Oct 2015, at 16:20, Stella Rouzi (differentreality) wrote: > > Hello Lars, > > this year we have changed the way you apply for a stand. > > Please check the relevant announcement: > https://fosdem.org/2016/news/2015-09-24-call-for-participation/ > > And submit your request via the form provided: > https://fosdem.org/stands > > After you do that, you should receive an email acknowledging your submission. > > Thanks! > Stella > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: >> Project name: Xen Project >> >> Stand description: This will be a stand for the Xen Project, a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project that develops the following virtualisation and cloud related technologies: Xen Project hypervisor (ARM and x86), Mirage OS, Embedded and Automotive PV drivers for Android, QNX and other OS'es, PV drivers for Windows, etc. We will hand out swag with Xen Project logos/mascots. We will give demos with a laptop, explain how to engage with the community, etc. We will have a background pop-up with the project mascot. >> >> Project URLs: >> http://xenproject.org/ the following links are accessible from the main site >> http://wiki.xenproject.org >> http://blog.xenproject.org/ >> http://lists.xenproject.org/ >> >> Your name and relation to the project: Lars Kurth, Community Manager of the Xen Project and Chairman of the Xen Project Advisory Board >> >> Why should FOSDEM accept this proposal? >> >> In 2013, the Xen Project became a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project. Since then, the project has built bridges to many other projects such as QEMU, the Linux Automotive Working Group, XenServer.org, OpenDayLight, OPNFV, Hyper, Android and many others. It has also intesivied bridges with Linux Distros such as CentOS, OpenSuse, ... and the BSD Distros. The project expanded into new areas, such as embedded and automotive and has steadily grown its contributor and user base. >> >> In 2013 - 2015, we had a booth at FOSDEM that was volunteer/community staffed and very well attended. Unlike some of the other stands, there was always presence by volunteers and plenty of activity at our stand. We also invited other projects which have a relationship with Xen to give demos (OSv, MirageOS, Qubes, Xen Orchestra...) of open source technology that work with and on top of Xen. We hope to build further bridges at FOSDEM and again act as a hub of collaborative activity at FOSDEM. >> _______________________________________________ >> stands mailing list >> stands@lists.fosdem.org >> https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/stands _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 30 11:56:48 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:56:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs8IY-0006cy-Cs; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:56:46 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs8IX-0006ct-L1 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:56:45 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-8.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id C1/DD-31069-CFA53365; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:56:44 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=738dec1fc=Ian.Jackson@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1446206203!58330627!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28380 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2015 11:56:44 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Oct 2015 11:56:44 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.20,218,1444694400"; d="scan'208";a="314576704" From: Ian Jackson MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:56:35 +0000 To: X-Mailer: VM 8.1.0 under 23.4.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) X-DLP: MIA2 Subject: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org We've just released a rather exciting batch of Xen security advisories. There's grumbling in some quarters that we're not taking security seriously. I have a longstanding interest in computer security. Nowadays I am a member of the Xen Project Security Team (the team behind security@xenproject, which drafts the advisories and coordinates the response). But this is going to be a personal opinion. Of course Invisible Things are completely right that security isn't taken seriously enough. The general state of computer security in almost all systems is terrible. The reason for this is quite simple: we all put up with it. We, collectively, choose convenience and functionality: both when we decide which software to run for ourselves, and when we decide what contributions to make to the projects we care about. That's not to say that the many of us involved with the Xen Project aren't working to improve matters. The first part of improving anything is to know what the real situation is. Unlike almost every other hypervisor, Xen properly discloses, via an advisory, every vulnerability discovered in supported configurations. Security bugs are bugs, and over the last few years Xen's code review process has become a lot more rigorous. As a result, the quality of code being newly introduced into Xen has improved a lot. For researchers developing new analysis techniques, Xen is a prime target. A significant proportion of the reports to security@xenproject are the result of applying new scanning techniques to our codebase. So our existing code is being audited, with a focus on the areas and techniques likely to discover the most troublesome bugs. The difference in approach to disclosure makes it difficult to compare the security bug density of competing projects. When I worked for a security hardware vendor I was constantly under pressure to explain why we needed to do a formal advisory for our bugs. That is what security-conscious users expect, but our competitors' salesfolk would point to our advisories and say that our products were full of bugs. Their product had no publicly disclosed security bugs, so they would tell naive customers that their product had no bugs. I do think Xen probably has fewer critical security bugs than other hypervisors. It's the best available platform for building high security systems. But that doesn't mean Xen is good enough. Ultimately, of course, a Free Software project like Xen is what the whole community makes it. In the project as a whole we get a lot more submissions of new functionality than we get submissions aimed at improving the security. So personally I very much welcome the contributions made by security-focused contributors - even if that includes criticism. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 30 11:56:48 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:56:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs8IY-0006cy-Cs; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:56:46 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs8IX-0006ct-L1 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:56:45 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-8.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id C1/DD-31069-CFA53365; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:56:44 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=738dec1fc=Ian.Jackson@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1446206203!58330627!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28380 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2015 11:56:44 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Oct 2015 11:56:44 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.20,218,1444694400"; d="scan'208";a="314576704" From: Ian Jackson MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:56:35 +0000 To: X-Mailer: VM 8.1.0 under 23.4.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) X-DLP: MIA2 Subject: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org We've just released a rather exciting batch of Xen security advisories. There's grumbling in some quarters that we're not taking security seriously. I have a longstanding interest in computer security. Nowadays I am a member of the Xen Project Security Team (the team behind security@xenproject, which drafts the advisories and coordinates the response). But this is going to be a personal opinion. Of course Invisible Things are completely right that security isn't taken seriously enough. The general state of computer security in almost all systems is terrible. The reason for this is quite simple: we all put up with it. We, collectively, choose convenience and functionality: both when we decide which software to run for ourselves, and when we decide what contributions to make to the projects we care about. That's not to say that the many of us involved with the Xen Project aren't working to improve matters. The first part of improving anything is to know what the real situation is. Unlike almost every other hypervisor, Xen properly discloses, via an advisory, every vulnerability discovered in supported configurations. Security bugs are bugs, and over the last few years Xen's code review process has become a lot more rigorous. As a result, the quality of code being newly introduced into Xen has improved a lot. For researchers developing new analysis techniques, Xen is a prime target. A significant proportion of the reports to security@xenproject are the result of applying new scanning techniques to our codebase. So our existing code is being audited, with a focus on the areas and techniques likely to discover the most troublesome bugs. The difference in approach to disclosure makes it difficult to compare the security bug density of competing projects. When I worked for a security hardware vendor I was constantly under pressure to explain why we needed to do a formal advisory for our bugs. That is what security-conscious users expect, but our competitors' salesfolk would point to our advisories and say that our products were full of bugs. Their product had no publicly disclosed security bugs, so they would tell naive customers that their product had no bugs. I do think Xen probably has fewer critical security bugs than other hypervisors. It's the best available platform for building high security systems. But that doesn't mean Xen is good enough. Ultimately, of course, a Free Software project like Xen is what the whole community makes it. In the project as a whole we get a lot more submissions of new functionality than we get submissions aimed at improving the security. So personally I very much welcome the contributions made by security-focused contributors - even if that includes criticism. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 30 12:47:14 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:47:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs95M-0007Mh-BC; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:47:12 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs95K-0007Mc-Lq for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:47:10 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147] by server-2.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id A7/9F-12889-EC663365; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:47:10 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1446209228!36380820!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.48] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28196 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2015 12:47:09 -0000 Received: from mail-wm0-f48.google.com (HELO mail-wm0-f48.google.com) (74.125.82.48) by server-13.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Oct 2015 12:47:09 -0000 Received: by wmeg8 with SMTP id g8so11127732wme.1 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 05:47:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=AgwgOvi6iGcDTRCnAnD4/JDb4oUzCO0+u3gTR/4Wpo4=; b=BVQlul3g4cO5zkUjSQpbjxDEvKIkyihJ0x0aDrBb8JBdu7keyAEwOxVsSEAHYXurcq x1mbqtEihJ9ClxkX865HEchOkC1LBGsOQNIOsYQdRb4M0nM3LQEbwIMJYC4e1Oo2aH/n rLrMVRvYB/oBmOUr/WaytHUhv4zvVoUX6RVBBN/OzagQZGnTmzeBGmwYpTKr6iBuFXNq p0fXYygJ4KzKDyrFz/YVWYAQSEE3K1o5r8kcTl5RdjVtgWlfPmF0pvntgqfF1K6kRYFR jss0uShYh5pG4F/ZWm5u+Fhtxc58CNEXEVDrKDu/7cbkwKIL3buRrbyMT13Ll7O7eKpu Af8A== X-Received: by 10.28.141.204 with SMTP id p195mr3172644wmd.40.1446209228594; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 05:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (97e3cc8b.skybroadband.com. [151.227.204.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 194sm2753776wmh.19.2015.10.30.05.47.07 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Oct 2015 05:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:47:06 +0000 Message-Id: <15E34986-F84C-4F15-AFBD-1839E194E2E7@gmail.com> References: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> To: Ian Jackson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Generally this looks good > On 30 Oct 2015, at 11:56, Ian Jackson wrote: > > We've just released a rather exciting batch of Xen security > advisories. There's href="https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-secpack/blob/master/QSBs/qsb-022-2015.txt">grumbling > in some quarters that we're not taking security seriously. > > I have a longstanding interest in computer security. Nowadays I am a > member of the Xen Project Security Team (the team behind > security@xenproject, which drafts the advisories and coordinates the > response). But this is going to be a personal opinion. > > Of course Invisible Things are completely right that security isn't > taken seriously enough. The general state of computer security in > almost all systems is terrible. I can see Zibby moaning about this (-: > The reason for this is quite simple: > we all put up with it. We, collectively, choose convenience and > functionality: both when we decide which software to run for > ourselves, and when we decide what contributions to make to the > projects we care about. I am wondering, whether it is worth pointing out that there is constant pressure by users, customers and the press to focus on new features which exacerbates the situation. This is in particular true for high-profile open source projects. > > That's not to say that the many of us involved with the Xen Project > aren't working to improve matters. > > The first part of improving anything is to know what the real > situation is. Unlike almost every other hypervisor, maybe make this stronger: other hypervisor or open source project > Xen > properly discloses, via an > advisory, every vulnerability discovered in supported configurations. It may be worthwhile highlighting that we also handle many security issues of upstreams such as Linux and QEMU which are counted against our stats, while other projects don't do this > Security bugs are bugs, and over the last few years Xen's code review > process has become a lot more rigorous. As a result, the quality of > code being newly introduced into Xen has improved a lot. > > For researchers developing new analysis techniques, Xen is a prime > target. A significant proportion of the reports to > security@xenproject are the result of applying new scanning techniques > to our codebase. So our existing code is being audited, with a > focus on the areas and techniques likely to discover the most > troublesome bugs. > > The difference in approach to disclosure makes it difficult to compare the > security bug density of competing projects. When I worked for a > security hardware vendor I was constantly under pressure to explain > why we needed to do a formal advisory for our bugs. That is what > security-conscious users expect, but our competitors' salesfolk would > point to our advisories and say that our products were full of bugs. > Their product had no publicly disclosed security bugs, so they would > tell naive customers that their product had no bugs. > > I do think Xen probably has > fewer critical security bugs > than other hypervisors. It's the best available platform for building > high security systems. But that doesn't mean Xen is good enough. > > Ultimately, of course, a Free Software project like Xen is what the > whole community makes it. In the project as a whole we get a lot more > submissions of new functionality than we get submissions aimed at > improving the security. > > So personally I very much welcome the contributions made by > security-focused contributors - even if that includes criticism. I think this is very good Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 30 12:47:14 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:47:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs95M-0007Mh-BC; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:47:12 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs95K-0007Mc-Lq for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:47:10 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147] by server-2.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id A7/9F-12889-EC663365; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:47:10 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1446209228!36380820!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.48] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28196 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2015 12:47:09 -0000 Received: from mail-wm0-f48.google.com (HELO mail-wm0-f48.google.com) (74.125.82.48) by server-13.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Oct 2015 12:47:09 -0000 Received: by wmeg8 with SMTP id g8so11127732wme.1 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 05:47:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=AgwgOvi6iGcDTRCnAnD4/JDb4oUzCO0+u3gTR/4Wpo4=; b=BVQlul3g4cO5zkUjSQpbjxDEvKIkyihJ0x0aDrBb8JBdu7keyAEwOxVsSEAHYXurcq x1mbqtEihJ9ClxkX865HEchOkC1LBGsOQNIOsYQdRb4M0nM3LQEbwIMJYC4e1Oo2aH/n rLrMVRvYB/oBmOUr/WaytHUhv4zvVoUX6RVBBN/OzagQZGnTmzeBGmwYpTKr6iBuFXNq p0fXYygJ4KzKDyrFz/YVWYAQSEE3K1o5r8kcTl5RdjVtgWlfPmF0pvntgqfF1K6kRYFR jss0uShYh5pG4F/ZWm5u+Fhtxc58CNEXEVDrKDu/7cbkwKIL3buRrbyMT13Ll7O7eKpu Af8A== X-Received: by 10.28.141.204 with SMTP id p195mr3172644wmd.40.1446209228594; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 05:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (97e3cc8b.skybroadband.com. [151.227.204.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 194sm2753776wmh.19.2015.10.30.05.47.07 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Oct 2015 05:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:47:06 +0000 Message-Id: <15E34986-F84C-4F15-AFBD-1839E194E2E7@gmail.com> References: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> To: Ian Jackson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Generally this looks good > On 30 Oct 2015, at 11:56, Ian Jackson wrote: > > We've just released a rather exciting batch of Xen security > advisories. There's href="https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-secpack/blob/master/QSBs/qsb-022-2015.txt">grumbling > in some quarters that we're not taking security seriously. > > I have a longstanding interest in computer security. Nowadays I am a > member of the Xen Project Security Team (the team behind > security@xenproject, which drafts the advisories and coordinates the > response). But this is going to be a personal opinion. > > Of course Invisible Things are completely right that security isn't > taken seriously enough. The general state of computer security in > almost all systems is terrible. I can see Zibby moaning about this (-: > The reason for this is quite simple: > we all put up with it. We, collectively, choose convenience and > functionality: both when we decide which software to run for > ourselves, and when we decide what contributions to make to the > projects we care about. I am wondering, whether it is worth pointing out that there is constant pressure by users, customers and the press to focus on new features which exacerbates the situation. This is in particular true for high-profile open source projects. > > That's not to say that the many of us involved with the Xen Project > aren't working to improve matters. > > The first part of improving anything is to know what the real > situation is. Unlike almost every other hypervisor, maybe make this stronger: other hypervisor or open source project > Xen > properly discloses, via an > advisory, every vulnerability discovered in supported configurations. It may be worthwhile highlighting that we also handle many security issues of upstreams such as Linux and QEMU which are counted against our stats, while other projects don't do this > Security bugs are bugs, and over the last few years Xen's code review > process has become a lot more rigorous. As a result, the quality of > code being newly introduced into Xen has improved a lot. > > For researchers developing new analysis techniques, Xen is a prime > target. A significant proportion of the reports to > security@xenproject are the result of applying new scanning techniques > to our codebase. So our existing code is being audited, with a > focus on the areas and techniques likely to discover the most > troublesome bugs. > > The difference in approach to disclosure makes it difficult to compare the > security bug density of competing projects. When I worked for a > security hardware vendor I was constantly under pressure to explain > why we needed to do a formal advisory for our bugs. That is what > security-conscious users expect, but our competitors' salesfolk would > point to our advisories and say that our products were full of bugs. > Their product had no publicly disclosed security bugs, so they would > tell naive customers that their product had no bugs. > > I do think Xen probably has > fewer critical security bugs > than other hypervisors. It's the best available platform for building > high security systems. But that doesn't mean Xen is good enough. > > Ultimately, of course, a Free Software project like Xen is what the > whole community makes it. In the project as a whole we get a lot more > submissions of new functionality than we get submissions aimed at > improving the security. > > So personally I very much welcome the contributions made by > security-focused contributors - even if that includes criticism. I think this is very good Lars _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 30 14:25:16 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:25:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsAcE-0000xR-4x; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:25:14 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsAcC-0000xM-GP for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:25:12 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147] by server-11.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 95/19-15765-7CD73365; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:25:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=73814e05f=Timothy.Mackey@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1446215109!56880610!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 31028 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2015 14:25:10 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Oct 2015 14:25:10 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.20,218,1444694400"; d="scan'208";a="314610117" From: Tim Mackey To: Ian Jackson , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Thread-Topic: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features Thread-Index: AQHREwoZphk6O52ys0y2Zb2D/2XxoJ6EFToA Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:25:07 +0000 Message-ID: <6cf8bd7cbef44cb5a2ffd98dc1580bef@FTLPEX02CL01.citrite.net> References: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Subject: Re: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org I like this, Ian, but the title didn't quite match for me. Since the bulk of the blog is security focused, perhaps changing the title to something like "Security as a feature" might be a closer match. That would also map to the welcome of security related contributions in the conclusion and the point about how we each choose our way to contribute. -tim > -----Original Message----- > From: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org [mailto:publicity- > bounces@lists.xenproject.org] On Behalf Of Ian Jackson > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 7:57 AM > To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org > Subject: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features > > We've just released a rather exciting batch of Xen security advisories. > There's grumbling > in some quarters that we're not taking security seriously. > > I have a longstanding interest in computer security. Nowadays I am a > member of the Xen Project Security Team (the team behind > security@xenproject, which drafts the advisories and coordinates the > response). But this is going to be a personal opinion. > > Of course Invisible Things are completely right that security isn't > taken seriously enough. The general state of computer security in > almost all systems is terrible. The reason for this is quite simple: > we all put up with it. We, collectively, choose convenience and > functionality: both when we decide which software to run for ourselves, > and when we decide what contributions to make to the projects we care > about. > > That's not to say that the many of us involved with the Xen Project > aren't working to improve matters. > > The first part of improving anything is to know what the real situation > is. Unlike almost every other hypervisor, Xen href="http://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/">properly discloses, via an > advisory, every vulnerability discovered in supported configurations. > > Security bugs are bugs, and over the last few years Xen's code review > process has become a lot more rigorous. As a result, the quality of > code being newly introduced into Xen has improved a lot. > > For researchers developing new analysis techniques, Xen is a prime > target. A significant proportion of the reports to security@xenproject > are the result of applying new scanning techniques to our codebase. So > our existing code is being audited, with a focus on the areas and > techniques likely to discover the most troublesome bugs. > > The difference in approach to disclosure makes it difficult to compare > the security bug density of competing projects. When I worked for a > security hardware vendor I was constantly under pressure to explain why > we needed to do a formal advisory for our bugs. That is what security- > conscious users expect, but our competitors' salesfolk would point to > our advisories and say that our products were full of bugs. > Their product had no publicly disclosed security bugs, so they would > tell naive customers that their product had no bugs. > > I do think Xen probably has > fewer > critical security bugs than other hypervisors. It's the best > available platform for building high security systems. But that > doesn't mean Xen is good enough. > > Ultimately, of course, a Free Software project like Xen is what the > whole community makes it. In the project as a whole we get a lot more > submissions of new functionality than we get submissions aimed at > improving the security. > > So personally I very much welcome the contributions made by security- > focused contributors - even if that includes criticism. > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 30 14:25:16 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:25:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsAcE-0000xR-4x; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:25:14 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsAcC-0000xM-GP for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:25:12 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147] by server-11.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 95/19-15765-7CD73365; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:25:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=73814e05f=Timothy.Mackey@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1446215109!56880610!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 31028 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2015 14:25:10 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Oct 2015 14:25:10 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.20,218,1444694400"; d="scan'208";a="314610117" From: Tim Mackey To: Ian Jackson , "publicity@lists.xenproject.org" Thread-Topic: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features Thread-Index: AQHREwoZphk6O52ys0y2Zb2D/2XxoJ6EFToA Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:25:07 +0000 Message-ID: <6cf8bd7cbef44cb5a2ffd98dc1580bef@FTLPEX02CL01.citrite.net> References: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: MIA2 Subject: Re: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org I like this, Ian, but the title didn't quite match for me. Since the bulk of the blog is security focused, perhaps changing the title to something like "Security as a feature" might be a closer match. That would also map to the welcome of security related contributions in the conclusion and the point about how we each choose our way to contribute. -tim > -----Original Message----- > From: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org [mailto:publicity- > bounces@lists.xenproject.org] On Behalf Of Ian Jackson > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 7:57 AM > To: publicity@lists.xenproject.org > Subject: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features > > We've just released a rather exciting batch of Xen security advisories. > There's grumbling > in some quarters that we're not taking security seriously. > > I have a longstanding interest in computer security. Nowadays I am a > member of the Xen Project Security Team (the team behind > security@xenproject, which drafts the advisories and coordinates the > response). But this is going to be a personal opinion. > > Of course Invisible Things are completely right that security isn't > taken seriously enough. The general state of computer security in > almost all systems is terrible. The reason for this is quite simple: > we all put up with it. We, collectively, choose convenience and > functionality: both when we decide which software to run for ourselves, > and when we decide what contributions to make to the projects we care > about. > > That's not to say that the many of us involved with the Xen Project > aren't working to improve matters. > > The first part of improving anything is to know what the real situation > is. Unlike almost every other hypervisor, Xen href="http://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/">properly discloses, via an > advisory, every vulnerability discovered in supported configurations. > > Security bugs are bugs, and over the last few years Xen's code review > process has become a lot more rigorous. As a result, the quality of > code being newly introduced into Xen has improved a lot. > > For researchers developing new analysis techniques, Xen is a prime > target. A significant proportion of the reports to security@xenproject > are the result of applying new scanning techniques to our codebase. So > our existing code is being audited, with a focus on the areas and > techniques likely to discover the most troublesome bugs. > > The difference in approach to disclosure makes it difficult to compare > the security bug density of competing projects. When I worked for a > security hardware vendor I was constantly under pressure to explain why > we needed to do a formal advisory for our bugs. That is what security- > conscious users expect, but our competitors' salesfolk would point to > our advisories and say that our products were full of bugs. > Their product had no publicly disclosed security bugs, so they would > tell naive customers that their product had no bugs. > > I do think Xen probably has > fewer > critical security bugs than other hypervisors. It's the best > available platform for building high security systems. But that > doesn't mean Xen is good enough. > > Ultimately, of course, a Free Software project like Xen is what the > whole community makes it. In the project as a whole we get a lot more > submissions of new functionality than we get submissions aimed at > improving the security. > > So personally I very much welcome the contributions made by security- > focused contributors - even if that includes criticism. > > _______________________________________________ > Publicity mailing list > Publicity@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 30 14:35:08 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:35:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsAln-0001BI-71; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:35:07 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsAll-0001BD-Oy for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:35:05 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211] by server-1.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 9B/54-32615-91083365; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:35:05 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=738dec1fc=Ian.Jackson@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1446215703!46458365!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21969 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2015 14:35:04 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Oct 2015 14:35:04 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.20,219,1444694400"; d="scan'208";a="314612453" From: Ian Jackson MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <22067.32759.527742.63906@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:34:31 +0000 To: Tim Mackey , Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: <15E34986-F84C-4F15-AFBD-1839E194E2E7@gmail.com>, <6cf8bd7cbef44cb5a2ffd98dc1580bef@FTLPEX02CL01.citrite.net> References: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> <6cf8bd7cbef44cb5a2ffd98dc1580bef@FTLPEX02CL01.citrite.net> <15E34986-F84C-4F15-AFBD-1839E194E2E7@gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.0 under 23.4.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features [and 1 more messages] X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Lars Kurth writes ("Re: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features"): > Generally this looks good > > The reason for this is quite simple: > > we all put up with it. We, collectively, choose convenience and > > functionality: both when we decide which software to run for > > ourselves, and when we decide what contributions to make to the > > projects we care about. > > I am wondering, whether it is worth pointing out that there is constant pressure by users, customers and the press to focus on new features which exacerbates the situation. This is in particular true for high-profile open source projects. I think that's what I am saying. But I can strengthen it. For almost all software there is much stronger pressure (from all sides) to add features, than to improve security. > > That's not to say that the many of us involved with the Xen Project > > aren't working to improve matters. > > > > The first part of improving anything is to know what the real > > situation is. Unlike almost every other hypervisor, > > maybe make this stronger: other hypervisor or open source project Unlike almost every other hypervisor and even most Free Software projects, Xen ... > > Xen > > properly discloses, via an > > advisory, every vulnerability discovered in supported configurations. > > It may be worthwhile highlighting that we also handle many security issues of upstreams such as Linux and QEMU which are counted against our stats, while other projects don't do this Interesting point. We also often disclose, via our XSA process, Xen-related security issues in other projects such as Linux and Qemu. > I think this is very good Tim Mackey writes ("RE: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features"): > I like this, Ian, but the title didn't quite match for me. Since > the bulk of the blog is security focused, perhaps changing the title > to something like "Security as a feature" might be a closer match. > That would also map to the welcome of security related contributions > in the conclusion and the point about how we each choose our way to > contribute. Hrm. I think `security as a feature' is rather too `spin'-like for me. OTOH I'm not very attached to the current title. Any other suggestions ? Thanks, Ian. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 30 14:35:08 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:35:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsAln-0001BI-71; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:35:07 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsAll-0001BD-Oy for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:35:05 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211] by server-1.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 9B/54-32615-91083365; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:35:05 +0000 X-Env-Sender: prvs=738dec1fc=Ian.Jackson@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1446215703!46458365!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n, received_headers: No Received headers X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21969 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2015 14:35:04 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Oct 2015 14:35:04 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.20,219,1444694400"; d="scan'208";a="314612453" From: Ian Jackson MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <22067.32759.527742.63906@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:34:31 +0000 To: Tim Mackey , Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: <15E34986-F84C-4F15-AFBD-1839E194E2E7@gmail.com>, <6cf8bd7cbef44cb5a2ffd98dc1580bef@FTLPEX02CL01.citrite.net> References: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> <6cf8bd7cbef44cb5a2ffd98dc1580bef@FTLPEX02CL01.citrite.net> <15E34986-F84C-4F15-AFBD-1839E194E2E7@gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.0 under 23.4.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) X-DLP: MIA1 Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features [and 1 more messages] X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Lars Kurth writes ("Re: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features"): > Generally this looks good > > The reason for this is quite simple: > > we all put up with it. We, collectively, choose convenience and > > functionality: both when we decide which software to run for > > ourselves, and when we decide what contributions to make to the > > projects we care about. > > I am wondering, whether it is worth pointing out that there is constant pressure by users, customers and the press to focus on new features which exacerbates the situation. This is in particular true for high-profile open source projects. I think that's what I am saying. But I can strengthen it. For almost all software there is much stronger pressure (from all sides) to add features, than to improve security. > > That's not to say that the many of us involved with the Xen Project > > aren't working to improve matters. > > > > The first part of improving anything is to know what the real > > situation is. Unlike almost every other hypervisor, > > maybe make this stronger: other hypervisor or open source project Unlike almost every other hypervisor and even most Free Software projects, Xen ... > > Xen > > properly discloses, via an > > advisory, every vulnerability discovered in supported configurations. > > It may be worthwhile highlighting that we also handle many security issues of upstreams such as Linux and QEMU which are counted against our stats, while other projects don't do this Interesting point. We also often disclose, via our XSA process, Xen-related security issues in other projects such as Linux and Qemu. > I think this is very good Tim Mackey writes ("RE: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features"): > I like this, Ian, but the title didn't quite match for me. Since > the bulk of the blog is security focused, perhaps changing the title > to something like "Security as a feature" might be a closer match. > That would also map to the welcome of security related contributions > in the conclusion and the point about how we each choose our way to > contribute. Hrm. I think `security as a feature' is rather too `spin'-like for me. OTOH I'm not very attached to the current title. Any other suggestions ? Thanks, Ian. _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 30 14:43:31 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:43:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsAtr-0001Ha-Qd; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:43:27 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsAtq-0001HV-P2 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:43:26 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211] by server-6.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 2F/C9-22089-E0283365; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:43:26 +0000 X-Env-Sender: persaur@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1446216204!46460884!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.192.46] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.2 required=7.0 tests=MIME_QP_LONG_LINE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9845 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2015 14:43:25 -0000 Received: from mail-qg0-f46.google.com (HELO mail-qg0-f46.google.com) (209.85.192.46) by server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Oct 2015 14:43:25 -0000 Received: by qgeo38 with SMTP id o38so63404492qge.0 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:43:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=f9MdWj4nEIG0qqowyXT+0QWpXEp3SJbG4lmSHCPdrmk=; b=zZjAdGmSIph23doi6C7izxpFBmI8gc410I1U3QBVmsMMqe2XyiGg5QyZGNhtjU6lOg h6e4LfcdfcGpwrEoM8tdzlq69JHJ/8Hjz/1wVlfKzAO36guNstAczd8zIjzjoMrm1KA2 Qsq/Iu3kosPIkJrTeAZ5KkQ7hKLmnuJrdt7otDZVhY4zwL+gLJlVX/0g8OfMhWTnRVlT leyV3FKuVeKCyIyN7KmMO0w+tlcedT4YCbSRXvRlBc92kaA0Fo7e38N6KCuL8OJi1ZbM fJtrMn7pkXOdM1GKkpmSZfVhjWwOmZrkmoJeqgQ+3C8VaaIB4mcBYtB3CCAZJQuHRiYX 33PQ== X-Received: by 10.140.93.104 with SMTP id c95mr10277060qge.101.1446216204045; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.30.28] (cpe-67-244-87-116.nyc.res.rr.com. [67.244.87.116]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i21sm2611648qkh.48.2015.10.30.07.43.23 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:43:23 -0700 (PDT) References: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> <15E34986-F84C-4F15-AFBD-1839E194E2E7@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <15E34986-F84C-4F15-AFBD-1839E194E2E7@gmail.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (13B143) From: Rich Persaud Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:43:23 -0400 To: Lars Kurth , Ian Jackson Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org The publicity received by Xen security disclosures is a testament to Xen's global, mission-critical operational role and the resulting high expectations of developers and administrators. As seen in the aftermath of high-profile security disclosures by other OSS projects, public input can lead to new contributions and long-term improvement. It would be useful to highlight the previous community input which lead to the disclosure process, code audits that showcased static analysis tool vendors and security research firms, and the recent design review process for new features. Those processes were developed in public and will yield dividends for years to come. Can the blog post include a call to action, e.g. * Are there existing Xen developers who need external funding to work on a security wishlist? * How can the community receive public input to improve the design review process for the security implications of new features? E.g. maintain a public list with best-of-breed examples of security-conscious OSS design reviews. * Does the community have a security roadmap which needs new developers or attention from academic researchers? A prioritized list of past features which would benefit from new, security-oriented design reviews? * How can past security contributions be highlighted and promoted, to incentivize new contributions from the vendor and developer communities? * Is a public xen-security-devel list needed, to aggregate security expertise which can be pulled into threads on the xen-devel list, as needed? * Where should new developers and donors go to contribute? Rich _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 30 14:43:31 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:43:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsAtr-0001Ha-Qd; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:43:27 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsAtq-0001HV-P2 for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:43:26 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211] by server-6.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 2F/C9-22089-E0283365; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:43:26 +0000 X-Env-Sender: persaur@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1446216204!46460884!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.192.46] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.2 required=7.0 tests=MIME_QP_LONG_LINE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9845 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2015 14:43:25 -0000 Received: from mail-qg0-f46.google.com (HELO mail-qg0-f46.google.com) (209.85.192.46) by server-6.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Oct 2015 14:43:25 -0000 Received: by qgeo38 with SMTP id o38so63404492qge.0 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:43:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=f9MdWj4nEIG0qqowyXT+0QWpXEp3SJbG4lmSHCPdrmk=; b=zZjAdGmSIph23doi6C7izxpFBmI8gc410I1U3QBVmsMMqe2XyiGg5QyZGNhtjU6lOg h6e4LfcdfcGpwrEoM8tdzlq69JHJ/8Hjz/1wVlfKzAO36guNstAczd8zIjzjoMrm1KA2 Qsq/Iu3kosPIkJrTeAZ5KkQ7hKLmnuJrdt7otDZVhY4zwL+gLJlVX/0g8OfMhWTnRVlT leyV3FKuVeKCyIyN7KmMO0w+tlcedT4YCbSRXvRlBc92kaA0Fo7e38N6KCuL8OJi1ZbM fJtrMn7pkXOdM1GKkpmSZfVhjWwOmZrkmoJeqgQ+3C8VaaIB4mcBYtB3CCAZJQuHRiYX 33PQ== X-Received: by 10.140.93.104 with SMTP id c95mr10277060qge.101.1446216204045; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.30.28] (cpe-67-244-87-116.nyc.res.rr.com. [67.244.87.116]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i21sm2611648qkh.48.2015.10.30.07.43.23 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:43:23 -0700 (PDT) References: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> <15E34986-F84C-4F15-AFBD-1839E194E2E7@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <15E34986-F84C-4F15-AFBD-1839E194E2E7@gmail.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (13B143) From: Rich Persaud Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:43:23 -0400 To: Lars Kurth , Ian Jackson Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org The publicity received by Xen security disclosures is a testament to Xen's global, mission-critical operational role and the resulting high expectations of developers and administrators. As seen in the aftermath of high-profile security disclosures by other OSS projects, public input can lead to new contributions and long-term improvement. It would be useful to highlight the previous community input which lead to the disclosure process, code audits that showcased static analysis tool vendors and security research firms, and the recent design review process for new features. Those processes were developed in public and will yield dividends for years to come. Can the blog post include a call to action, e.g. * Are there existing Xen developers who need external funding to work on a security wishlist? * How can the community receive public input to improve the design review process for the security implications of new features? E.g. maintain a public list with best-of-breed examples of security-conscious OSS design reviews. * Does the community have a security roadmap which needs new developers or attention from academic researchers? A prioritized list of past features which would benefit from new, security-oriented design reviews? * How can past security contributions be highlighted and promoted, to incentivize new contributions from the vendor and developer communities? * Is a public xen-security-devel list needed, to aggregate security expertise which can be pulled into threads on the xen-devel list, as needed? * Where should new developers and donors go to contribute? Rich _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 30 16:02:22 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:02:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsC8B-0003Fg-QV; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:02:19 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsC8A-0003Fb-Va for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:02:19 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211] by server-14.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id FE/14-22142-A8493365; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:02:18 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1446220935!22125639!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.48] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18405 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2015 16:02:15 -0000 Received: from mail-wm0-f48.google.com (HELO mail-wm0-f48.google.com) (74.125.82.48) by server-7.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Oct 2015 16:02:15 -0000 Received: by wmeg8 with SMTP id g8so15213242wme.0 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:02:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=aoa+Xbbneuh1BTm04RL6cP+bAUZJqjSf5T+wuzBkH4o=; b=L/nmPzv5tlOYCpWDA2co1zl6rivEIAx0RXtHQbRTmpDrDRfcbQsZnfxIvvjuvRYvEv Uyi4DVudZdC1A8MIeFasoSZW1lCrBCEnk/Z9neGZycfYDwQ+Xt5b/E/yz2E+OghUPvGt v8Fz9li2aWiTzCPMzGpULYnJ22zgV72MLmhmePWKVB377cyGMgEQV3lPX+sXrQv5ZbP8 39GjZobN1ddkoq6iL/r4cjwxxY9wVF1Sjbc92oJ7BCl8kyIa0tW2zKU3PWRyAKiw9tUR 05dgrm61FkeKyKx5GQPJ1Cjk4z2JptxUn6eRh0LQckYrbHMnUfav5Pn1xxziVKn4EHsz NF3A== X-Received: by 10.28.138.140 with SMTP id m134mr4280124wmd.74.1446220935020; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (97e3cc8b.skybroadband.com. [151.227.204.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p10sm7684399wjx.36.2015.10.30.09.02.13 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:02:12 +0000 Message-Id: <6BD2FBF5-F54D-4A80-90BB-315E701E576C@gmail.com> References: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> <15E34986-F84C-4F15-AFBD-1839E194E2E7@gmail.com> To: Rich Persaud X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Rich, the post is long enough. I think we should cover this in a follow-up, which I volunteer for Lars > On 30 Oct 2015, at 14:43, Rich Persaud wrote: > > The publicity received by Xen security disclosures is a testament to Xen's global, mission-critical operational role and the resulting high expectations of developers and administrators. As seen in the aftermath of high-profile security disclosures by other OSS projects, public input can lead to new contributions and long-term improvement. > > It would be useful to highlight the previous community input which lead to the disclosure process, code audits that showcased static analysis tool vendors and security research firms, and the recent design review process for new features. Those processes were developed in public and will yield dividends for years to come. > > Can the blog post include a call to action, e.g. > > * Are there existing Xen developers who need external funding to work on a security wishlist? > > * How can the community receive public input to improve the design review process for the security implications of new features? E.g. maintain a public list with best-of-breed examples of security-conscious OSS design reviews. > > * Does the community have a security roadmap which needs new developers or attention from academic researchers? A prioritized list of past features which would benefit from new, security-oriented design reviews? > > * How can past security contributions be highlighted and promoted, to incentivize new contributions from the vendor and developer communities? > > * Is a public xen-security-devel list needed, to aggregate security expertise which can be pulled into threads on the xen-devel list, as needed? > > * Where should new developers and donors go to contribute? > > Rich _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity From publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Oct 30 16:02:22 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:02:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsC8B-0003Fg-QV; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:02:19 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsC8A-0003Fb-Va for publicity@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:02:19 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211] by server-14.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id FE/14-22142-A8493365; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:02:18 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1446220935!22125639!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.82.48] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.16; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18405 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2015 16:02:15 -0000 Received: from mail-wm0-f48.google.com (HELO mail-wm0-f48.google.com) (74.125.82.48) by server-7.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Oct 2015 16:02:15 -0000 Received: by wmeg8 with SMTP id g8so15213242wme.0 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:02:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=aoa+Xbbneuh1BTm04RL6cP+bAUZJqjSf5T+wuzBkH4o=; b=L/nmPzv5tlOYCpWDA2co1zl6rivEIAx0RXtHQbRTmpDrDRfcbQsZnfxIvvjuvRYvEv Uyi4DVudZdC1A8MIeFasoSZW1lCrBCEnk/Z9neGZycfYDwQ+Xt5b/E/yz2E+OghUPvGt v8Fz9li2aWiTzCPMzGpULYnJ22zgV72MLmhmePWKVB377cyGMgEQV3lPX+sXrQv5ZbP8 39GjZobN1ddkoq6iL/r4cjwxxY9wVF1Sjbc92oJ7BCl8kyIa0tW2zKU3PWRyAKiw9tUR 05dgrm61FkeKyKx5GQPJ1Cjk4z2JptxUn6eRh0LQckYrbHMnUfav5Pn1xxziVKn4EHsz NF3A== X-Received: by 10.28.138.140 with SMTP id m134mr4280124wmd.74.1446220935020; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (97e3cc8b.skybroadband.com. [151.227.204.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p10sm7684399wjx.36.2015.10.30.09.02.13 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:02:12 +0000 Message-Id: <6BD2FBF5-F54D-4A80-90BB-315E701E576C@gmail.com> References: <22067.23283.52952.970767@mariner.uk.xensource.com> <15E34986-F84C-4F15-AFBD-1839E194E2E7@gmail.com> To: Rich Persaud X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Cc: publicity@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Publicity] [blog post draft] Security vs features X-BeenThere: publicity@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for Xen Publicity, PR and events" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: publicity-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Rich, the post is long enough. I think we should cover this in a follow-up, which I volunteer for Lars > On 30 Oct 2015, at 14:43, Rich Persaud wrote: > > The publicity received by Xen security disclosures is a testament to Xen's global, mission-critical operational role and the resulting high expectations of developers and administrators. As seen in the aftermath of high-profile security disclosures by other OSS projects, public input can lead to new contributions and long-term improvement. > > It would be useful to highlight the previous community input which lead to the disclosure process, code audits that showcased static analysis tool vendors and security research firms, and the recent design review process for new features. Those processes were developed in public and will yield dividends for years to come. > > Can the blog post include a call to action, e.g. > > * Are there existing Xen developers who need external funding to work on a security wishlist? > > * How can the community receive public input to improve the design review process for the security implications of new features? E.g. maintain a public list with best-of-breed examples of security-conscious OSS design reviews. > > * Does the community have a security roadmap which needs new developers or attention from academic researchers? A prioritized list of past features which would benefit from new, security-oriented design reviews? > > * How can past security contributions be highlighted and promoted, to incentivize new contributions from the vendor and developer communities? > > * Is a public xen-security-devel list needed, to aggregate security expertise which can be pulled into threads on the xen-devel list, as needed? > > * Where should new developers and donors go to contribute? > > Rich _______________________________________________ Publicity mailing list Publicity@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity