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Hello Lars,

this year we have changed the way you apply for a stand.

Please check the relevant announcement:
https://fosdem.org/2016/news/2015-09-24-call-for-participation/

And submit your request via the form provided:
https://fosdem.org/stands

After you do that, you should receive an email acknowledging your submission.

Thanks!
Stella

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Project name: Xen Project
>
> Stand description:  This will be a stand for the Xen Project, a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project that develops the following virtualisation and cloud related technologies: Xen Project hypervisor (ARM and x86), Mirage OS, Embedded and Automotive PV drivers for Android, QNX and other OS'es, PV drivers for Windows, etc. We will hand out swag with Xen Project logos/mascots. We will give demos with a laptop, explain how to engage with the community, etc. We will have a background pop-up with the project mascot.
>
> Project URLs:
> http://xenproject.org/ the following links are accessible from the main site
> http://wiki.xenproject.org
> http://blog.xenproject.org/
> http://lists.xenproject.org/
>
> Your name and relation to the project: Lars Kurth, Community Manager of the Xen Project and Chairman of the Xen Project Advisory Board
>
> Why should FOSDEM accept this proposal?
>
> In 2013, the Xen Project became a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project. Since then, the project has built bridges to many other projects such as QEMU, the Linux Automotive Working Group, XenServer.org, OpenDayLight, OPNFV, Hyper, Android and many others. It has also intesivied bridges with Linux Distros such as CentOS, OpenSuse, ... and the BSD Distros. The project expanded into new areas, such as embedded and automotive and has steadily grown its contributor and user base.
>
> In 2013 - 2015, we had a booth at FOSDEM that was volunteer/community staffed and very well attended. Unlike some of the other stands, there was always presence by volunteers and plenty of activity at our stand. We also invited other projects which have a relationship with Xen to give demos (OSv, MirageOS, Qubes, Xen Orchestra...) of open source technology that work with and on top of Xen. We hope to build further bridges at FOSDEM and again act as a hub of collaborative activity at FOSDEM.
> _______________________________________________
> stands mailing list
> stands@lists.fosdem.org
> https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/stands

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Hello Lars,

this year we have changed the way you apply for a stand.

Please check the relevant announcement:
https://fosdem.org/2016/news/2015-09-24-call-for-participation/

And submit your request via the form provided:
https://fosdem.org/stands

After you do that, you should receive an email acknowledging your submission.

Thanks!
Stella

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Project name: Xen Project
>
> Stand description:  This will be a stand for the Xen Project, a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project that develops the following virtualisation and cloud related technologies: Xen Project hypervisor (ARM and x86), Mirage OS, Embedded and Automotive PV drivers for Android, QNX and other OS'es, PV drivers for Windows, etc. We will hand out swag with Xen Project logos/mascots. We will give demos with a laptop, explain how to engage with the community, etc. We will have a background pop-up with the project mascot.
>
> Project URLs:
> http://xenproject.org/ the following links are accessible from the main site
> http://wiki.xenproject.org
> http://blog.xenproject.org/
> http://lists.xenproject.org/
>
> Your name and relation to the project: Lars Kurth, Community Manager of the Xen Project and Chairman of the Xen Project Advisory Board
>
> Why should FOSDEM accept this proposal?
>
> In 2013, the Xen Project became a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project. Since then, the project has built bridges to many other projects such as QEMU, the Linux Automotive Working Group, XenServer.org, OpenDayLight, OPNFV, Hyper, Android and many others. It has also intesivied bridges with Linux Distros such as CentOS, OpenSuse, ... and the BSD Distros. The project expanded into new areas, such as embedded and automotive and has steadily grown its contributor and user base.
>
> In 2013 - 2015, we had a booth at FOSDEM that was volunteer/community staffed and very well attended. Unlike some of the other stands, there was always presence by volunteers and plenty of activity at our stand. We also invited other projects which have a relationship with Xen to give demos (OSv, MirageOS, Qubes, Xen Orchestra...) of open source technology that work with and on top of Xen. We hope to build further bridges at FOSDEM and again act as a hub of collaborative activity at FOSDEM.
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> stands@lists.fosdem.org
> https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/stands

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https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11133&preview=true
Regards
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The text is 
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I am pleased to announce the release of Xen 4.5.2. Xen Project Maintenance releases are released roughly every 4 months, in line with our <a href="http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Project_Maintenance_Releases">Maintenance Release Policy</a>. We recommend that all users of the 4.5 stable series update to this point release.

Xen 4.5.2 is available immediately from its git repository:

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://xenbits.xen.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/stable-4.5">xenbits.xenproject.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/stable-4.5</a>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(tag <em>RELEASE-4.5.2</em>)

or from the Xen Project download page at <a href="http://www.xenproject.org/downloads/xen-archives/xen-45-series/xen-452.html">www.xenproject.org/downloads/xen-archives/xen-45-series/xen-452.html</a>.

This release contains many bug fixes and improvements. For a complete list of changes in this release, please check <a href="http://www.xenproject.org/downloads/xen-archives/xen-45-series/xen-452.html">lists of changes on the download page</a>.
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I am pleased to announce the release of Xen 4.5.2. Xen Project Maintenance releases are released roughly every 4 months, in line with our <a href="http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Project_Maintenance_Releases">Maintenance Release Policy</a>. We recommend that all users of the 4.5 stable series update to this point release.

Xen 4.5.2 is available immediately from its git repository:

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://xenbits.xen.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/stable-4.5">xenbits.xenproject.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/stable-4.5</a>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(tag <em>RELEASE-4.5.2</em>)

or from the Xen Project download page at <a href="http://www.xenproject.org/downloads/xen-archives/xen-45-series/xen-452.html">www.xenproject.org/downloads/xen-archives/xen-45-series/xen-452.html</a>.

This release contains many bug fixes and improvements. For a complete list of changes in this release, please check <a href="http://www.xenproject.org/downloads/xen-archives/xen-45-series/xen-452.html">lists of changes on the download page</a>.
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Hi,

I made a few small copy edits. I was not able to open any of the links or
view the slides, so please double-check that.

A few comments:
- I would delete this sentence:  Some might be wondering what took me so
long to write the announcement email and this blog post.
- Do you see any negatives stemming from continue to make release cycles
shorter and more predictable? If so, can we address them head on? Or
alternatively, expand more on the benefits of shorter, more
predictable release cycles, draw comparisons to other OS projects that are
following this trend.
- I looked over the slides and it seems like you are a lot more strict on
what can be added during the RC part of the cycle. Am I mistaken here or
was there a reasoning behind it?
- For those that are interested in joining, list the email, mailing list to
use.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7
> release. Let me know if you have any comments.
>
> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11139&preview=true
>
> Thanks
> Wei.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Publicity mailing list
> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org
> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity
>



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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I made a few small copy edits. I wa=
s not able to open any of the links or view the slides, so please double-ch=
eck that.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px">A =
few comments:</div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px">- I would delete this se=
ntence:=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:&#39;Open Sans&=
#39;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:24px">=C2=A0</sp=
an><span style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:&#39;Open Sans&#39;,Helve=
tica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:24px">Some might be wonder=
ing what took me so long to write the announcement email and this blog post=
.=C2=A0</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">- Do you see any =
negatives stemming from continue to make release cycles shorter and more pr=
edictable? If so, can we address them head on? Or alternatively, expand mor=
e on the benefits of shorter, more predictable=C2=A0release cycles, draw=C2=
=A0comparisons=C2=A0to other OS projects that are following this trend.=C2=
=A0</span></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px">- I looked over the slides =
and it seems like you are a lot more strict on what can be added during the=
 RC part of the cycle. Am I mistaken here or was there a reasoning behind i=
t?</div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px">- For those that are interested in =
joining, list the email, mailing list to use.</div></div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:2=
0 AM, Wei Liu <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wei.liu2@citrix.com" =
target=3D"_blank">wei.liu2@citrix.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex">Hi all<br>
<br>
I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7<br>
release. Let me know if you have any comments.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&amp;preview=3Dtrue" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&am=
p;preview=3Dtrue</a><br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Wei.<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=
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Hi,

I made a few small copy edits. I was not able to open any of the links or
view the slides, so please double-check that.

A few comments:
- I would delete this sentence:  Some might be wondering what took me so
long to write the announcement email and this blog post.
- Do you see any negatives stemming from continue to make release cycles
shorter and more predictable? If so, can we address them head on? Or
alternatively, expand more on the benefits of shorter, more
predictable release cycles, draw comparisons to other OS projects that are
following this trend.
- I looked over the slides and it seems like you are a lot more strict on
what can be added during the RC part of the cycle. Am I mistaken here or
was there a reasoning behind it?
- For those that are interested in joining, list the email, mailing list to
use.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7
> release. Let me know if you have any comments.
>
> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11139&preview=true
>
> Thanks
> Wei.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Publicity mailing list
> Publicity@lists.xenproject.org
> http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/publicity
>



-- 
Sarah Conway
Director of PR Services, Collaborative Projects
The Linux Foundation
sconway@linuxfoundation.org
(978) 578-5300  Cell
Skype:  sarah.k.conway

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=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:2=
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<br>
I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7<br>
release. Let me know if you have any comments.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&amp;preview=3Dtrue" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&am=
p;preview=3Dtrue</a><br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Wei.<br>
<br>
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> On 10 Nov 2015, at 16:11, Sarah Conway <sconway@linuxfoundation.org> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> I made a few small copy edits. I was not able to open any of the links =
or view the slides, so please double-check that.=20
Odd, they all work for me

>=20
> A few comments:
> - I would delete this sentence:  Some might be wondering what took me =
so long to write the announcement email and this blog post.=20
I will leave this up to Wei. It's his personal style. If this was picked =
up, it's a nice harmless trap quote they can focus on.=20

> - Do you see any negatives stemming from continue to make release =
cycles shorter and more predictable? If so, can we address them head on? =
Or alternatively, expand more on the benefits of shorter, more =
predictable release cycles, draw comparisons to other OS projects that =
are following this trend.=20
No negatives. I am not sure whether it's worthwhile doing this, but =
Ubuntu and OpenStack run 6 months cycles

> - I looked over the slides and it seems like you are a lot more strict =
on what can be added during the RC part of the cycle. Am I mistaken here =
or was there a reasoning behind it?
The reasoning was, that there was a lot of arguing over freeze =
exceptions. In particular, because some vendors promised customers =
features in 4.6 - not all of which made it. Part of the rationale for =
shorter cycles is that the customer impact of a missing a release will =
be less severe.=20

> - For those that are interested in joining, list the email, mailing =
list to use.
I added a link

Lars

>=20
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com =
<mailto:wei.liu2@citrix.com>> wrote:
> Hi all
>=20
> I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7
> release. Let me know if you have any comments.
>=20
> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&preview=3Dtrue =
<https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&preview=3Dtrue>
>=20
> Thanks
> Wei.
>=20
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>=20
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> Sarah Conway
> Director of PR Services, Collaborative Projects=20
> The Linux Foundation
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class=3D"">On 10 Nov 2015, at 16:11, Sarah Conway &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:sconway@linuxfoundation.org" =
class=3D"">sconway@linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">Hi,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I =
made a few small copy edits. I was not able to open any of the links or =
view the slides, so please double-check =
that.&nbsp;</div></div></div></blockquote>Odd, they all work for =
me</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px" =
class=3D"">A few comments:</div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px" =
class=3D"">- I would delete this sentence:&nbsp;<span =
style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:'Open =
Sans',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:24px" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:'Open =
Sans',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:24px" =
class=3D"">Some might be wondering what took me so long to write the =
announcement email and this blog =
post.&nbsp;</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote>I will leave this =
up to Wei. It's his personal style. If this was picked up, it's a nice =
harmless trap quote they can focus on.&nbsp;</div><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">- Do you see any negatives =
stemming from continue to make release cycles shorter and more =
predictable? If so, can we address them head on? Or alternatively, =
expand more on the benefits of shorter, more predictable&nbsp;release =
cycles, draw&nbsp;comparisons&nbsp;to other OS projects that are =
following this =
trend.&nbsp;</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">No=
 negatives. I am not sure whether it's worthwhile doing this, but Ubuntu =
and OpenStack run 6 months cycles</span></div><div><font face=3D"Calibri, =
sans-serif" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span></font><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">- I looked over the slides and it =
seems like you are a lot more strict on what can be added during the RC =
part of the cycle. Am I mistaken here or was there a reasoning behind =
it?</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>The reasoning was, that =
there was a lot of arguing over freeze exceptions. In particular, =
because some vendors promised customers features in 4.6 - not all of =
which made it. Part of the rationale for shorter cycles is that the =
customer impact of a missing a release will be less =
severe.&nbsp;</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">- For those that =
are interested in joining, list the email, mailing list to =
use.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>I added a =
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class=3D"gmail_extra"><br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, =
Nov 10, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Wei Liu <span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:wei.liu2@citrix.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">wei.liu2@citrix.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7<br =
class=3D"">
release. Let me know if you have any comments.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<a href=3D"https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&amp;preview=3Dtrue" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&amp;preview=3Dtrue</a><b=
r class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Thanks<br class=3D"">
Wei.<br class=3D"">
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> On 10 Nov 2015, at 16:11, Sarah Conway <sconway@linuxfoundation.org> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> I made a few small copy edits. I was not able to open any of the links =
or view the slides, so please double-check that.=20
Odd, they all work for me

>=20
> A few comments:
> - I would delete this sentence:  Some might be wondering what took me =
so long to write the announcement email and this blog post.=20
I will leave this up to Wei. It's his personal style. If this was picked =
up, it's a nice harmless trap quote they can focus on.=20

> - Do you see any negatives stemming from continue to make release =
cycles shorter and more predictable? If so, can we address them head on? =
Or alternatively, expand more on the benefits of shorter, more =
predictable release cycles, draw comparisons to other OS projects that =
are following this trend.=20
No negatives. I am not sure whether it's worthwhile doing this, but =
Ubuntu and OpenStack run 6 months cycles

> - I looked over the slides and it seems like you are a lot more strict =
on what can be added during the RC part of the cycle. Am I mistaken here =
or was there a reasoning behind it?
The reasoning was, that there was a lot of arguing over freeze =
exceptions. In particular, because some vendors promised customers =
features in 4.6 - not all of which made it. Part of the rationale for =
shorter cycles is that the customer impact of a missing a release will =
be less severe.=20

> - For those that are interested in joining, list the email, mailing =
list to use.
I added a link

Lars

>=20
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com =
<mailto:wei.liu2@citrix.com>> wrote:
> Hi all
>=20
> I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7
> release. Let me know if you have any comments.
>=20
> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&preview=3Dtrue =
<https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&preview=3Dtrue>
>=20
> Thanks
> Wei.
>=20
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>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Sarah Conway
> Director of PR Services, Collaborative Projects=20
> The Linux Foundation
> sconway@linuxfoundation.org <mailto:sconway@linuxfoundation.org>
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class=3D"">Hi,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I =
made a few small copy edits. I was not able to open any of the links or =
view the slides, so please double-check =
that.&nbsp;</div></div></div></blockquote>Odd, they all work for =
me</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px" =
class=3D"">A few comments:</div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px" =
class=3D"">- I would delete this sentence:&nbsp;<span =
style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:'Open =
Sans',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:24px" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:'Open =
Sans',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:24px" =
class=3D"">Some might be wondering what took me so long to write the =
announcement email and this blog =
post.&nbsp;</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote>I will leave this =
up to Wei. It's his personal style. If this was picked up, it's a nice =
harmless trap quote they can focus on.&nbsp;</div><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">- Do you see any negatives =
stemming from continue to make release cycles shorter and more =
predictable? If so, can we address them head on? Or alternatively, =
expand more on the benefits of shorter, more predictable&nbsp;release =
cycles, draw&nbsp;comparisons&nbsp;to other OS projects that are =
following this =
trend.&nbsp;</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">No=
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and OpenStack run 6 months cycles</span></div><div><font face=3D"Calibri, =
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style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">- I looked over the slides and it =
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it?</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>The reasoning was, that =
there was a lot of arguing over freeze exceptions. In particular, =
because some vendors promised customers features in 4.6 - not all of =
which made it. Part of the rationale for shorter cycles is that the =
customer impact of a missing a release will be less =
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all<br class=3D"">
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I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7<br =
class=3D"">
release. Let me know if you have any comments.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<a href=3D"https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&amp;preview=3Dtrue" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" =
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r class=3D"">
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I would still suggest adding positives knowing that some will find their
own negatives.

Sarah

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> On 10 Nov 2015, at 16:11, Sarah Conway <sconway@linuxfoundation.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I made a few small copy edits. I was not able to open any of the links or
> view the slides, so please double-check that.
>
> Odd, they all work for me
>
>
> A few comments:
> - I would delete this sentence:  Some might be wondering what took me so
> long to write the announcement email and this blog post.
>
> I will leave this up to Wei. It's his personal style. If this was picked
> up, it's a nice harmless trap quote they can focus on.
>
> - Do you see any negatives stemming from continue to make release cycles
> shorter and more predictable? If so, can we address them head on? Or
> alternatively, expand more on the benefits of shorter, more
> predictable release cycles, draw comparisons to other OS projects that are
> following this trend.
>
> No negatives. I am not sure whether it's worthwhile doing this, but Ubuntu
> and OpenStack run 6 months cycles
>
> - I looked over the slides and it seems like you are a lot more strict on
> what can be added during the RC part of the cycle. Am I mistaken here or
> was there a reasoning behind it?
>
> The reasoning was, that there was a lot of arguing over freeze exceptions.
> In particular, because some vendors promised customers features in 4.6 -
> not all of which made it. Part of the rationale for shorter cycles is that
> the customer impact of a missing a release will be less severe.
>
> - For those that are interested in joining, list the email, mailing list
> to use.
>
> I added a link
>
> Lars
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7
>> release. Let me know if you have any comments.
>>
>> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11139&preview=true
>>
>> Thanks
>> Wei.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> --
> Sarah Conway
> Director of PR Services, Collaborative Projects
> The Linux Foundation
> sconway@linuxfoundation.org
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I would still suggest adding positives knowing that some w=
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iv><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 10=
, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Lars Kurth <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lars=
.kurth.xen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break=
-word"><br><div><span class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On 10 Nov 2=
015, at 16:11, Sarah Conway &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sconway@linuxfoundation.o=
rg" target=3D"_blank">sconway@linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I made a few small copy edits. =
I was not able to open any of the links or view the slides, so please doubl=
e-check that.=C2=A0</div></div></div></blockquote></span>Odd, they all work=
 for me</div><div><span class=3D""><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px">A few comme=
nts:</div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px">- I would delete this sentence:=
=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:&#39;Open Sans&#39;,He=
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n style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:&#39;Open Sans&#39;,Helvetica,Ar=
ial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:24px">Some might be wondering wha=
t took me so long to write the announcement email and this blog post.=C2=A0=
</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></span>I will leave this up to =
Wei. It&#39;s his personal style. If this was picked up, it&#39;s a nice ha=
rmless trap quote they can focus on.=C2=A0</div><div><span class=3D""><br><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12.8px">- Do you see any negatives stemming from continue to make re=
lease cycles shorter and more predictable? If so, can we address them head =
on? Or alternatively, expand more on the benefits of shorter, more predicta=
ble=C2=A0release cycles, draw=C2=A0comparisons=C2=A0to other OS projects th=
at are following this trend.=C2=A0</span></div></div></div></div></blockquo=
te></span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px">No =
negatives. I am not sure whether it&#39;s worthwhile doing this, but Ubuntu=
 and OpenStack run 6 months cycles</span></div><div><span class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:14px"><br></span></fo=
nt><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font-=
size:12.8px">- I looked over the slides and it seems like you are a lot mor=
e strict on what can be added during the RC part of the cycle. Am I mistake=
n here or was there a reasoning behind it?</div></div></div></div></blockqu=
ote></span><div>The reasoning was, that there was a lot of arguing over fre=
eze exceptions. In particular, because some vendors promised customers feat=
ures in 4.6 - not all of which made it. Part of the rationale for shorter c=
ycles is that the customer impact of a missing a release will be less sever=
e.=C2=A0</div><span class=3D""><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px">- For those that are interest=
ed in joining, list the email, mailing list to use.</div></div></div></div>=
</blockquote></span><div>I added a link</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font c=
olor=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>Lars</div></font></span><span class=3D=
""><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Wei Liu <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wei.liu2@citrix.com" target=3D"_blank">wei.liu2@=
citrix.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all<b=
r>
<br>
I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7<br>
release. Let me know if you have any comments.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&amp;preview=3Dtrue" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&am=
p;preview=3Dtrue</a><br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Wei.<br>
<br>
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r><a href=3D"mailto:sconway@linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">sconway@=
linuxfoundation.org</a></div><div><a href=3D"tel:%28978%29%20578-5300" valu=
e=3D"+19785785300" target=3D"_blank">(978) 578-5300</a> =C2=A0Cell</div><di=
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I would still suggest adding positives knowing that some will find their
own negatives.

Sarah

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> On 10 Nov 2015, at 16:11, Sarah Conway <sconway@linuxfoundation.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I made a few small copy edits. I was not able to open any of the links or
> view the slides, so please double-check that.
>
> Odd, they all work for me
>
>
> A few comments:
> - I would delete this sentence:  Some might be wondering what took me so
> long to write the announcement email and this blog post.
>
> I will leave this up to Wei. It's his personal style. If this was picked
> up, it's a nice harmless trap quote they can focus on.
>
> - Do you see any negatives stemming from continue to make release cycles
> shorter and more predictable? If so, can we address them head on? Or
> alternatively, expand more on the benefits of shorter, more
> predictable release cycles, draw comparisons to other OS projects that are
> following this trend.
>
> No negatives. I am not sure whether it's worthwhile doing this, but Ubuntu
> and OpenStack run 6 months cycles
>
> - I looked over the slides and it seems like you are a lot more strict on
> what can be added during the RC part of the cycle. Am I mistaken here or
> was there a reasoning behind it?
>
> The reasoning was, that there was a lot of arguing over freeze exceptions.
> In particular, because some vendors promised customers features in 4.6 -
> not all of which made it. Part of the rationale for shorter cycles is that
> the customer impact of a missing a release will be less severe.
>
> - For those that are interested in joining, list the email, mailing list
> to use.
>
> I added a link
>
> Lars
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7
>> release. Let me know if you have any comments.
>>
>> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=11139&preview=true
>>
>> Thanks
>> Wei.
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I would still suggest adding positives knowing that some w=
ill find their own negatives.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Sarah=C2=A0</div></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 10=
, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Lars Kurth <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lars=
.kurth.xen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break=
-word"><br><div><span class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On 10 Nov 2=
015, at 16:11, Sarah Conway &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sconway@linuxfoundation.o=
rg" target=3D"_blank">sconway@linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I made a few small copy edits. =
I was not able to open any of the links or view the slides, so please doubl=
e-check that.=C2=A0</div></div></div></blockquote></span>Odd, they all work=
 for me</div><div><span class=3D""><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px">A few comme=
nts:</div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px">- I would delete this sentence:=
=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:&#39;Open Sans&#39;,He=
lvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:24px">=C2=A0</span><spa=
n style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:&#39;Open Sans&#39;,Helvetica,Ar=
ial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:24px">Some might be wondering wha=
t took me so long to write the announcement email and this blog post.=C2=A0=
</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></span>I will leave this up to =
Wei. It&#39;s his personal style. If this was picked up, it&#39;s a nice ha=
rmless trap quote they can focus on.=C2=A0</div><div><span class=3D""><br><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12.8px">- Do you see any negatives stemming from continue to make re=
lease cycles shorter and more predictable? If so, can we address them head =
on? Or alternatively, expand more on the benefits of shorter, more predicta=
ble=C2=A0release cycles, draw=C2=A0comparisons=C2=A0to other OS projects th=
at are following this trend.=C2=A0</span></div></div></div></div></blockquo=
te></span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px">No =
negatives. I am not sure whether it&#39;s worthwhile doing this, but Ubuntu=
 and OpenStack run 6 months cycles</span></div><div><span class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:14px"><br></span></fo=
nt><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font-=
size:12.8px">- I looked over the slides and it seems like you are a lot mor=
e strict on what can be added during the RC part of the cycle. Am I mistake=
n here or was there a reasoning behind it?</div></div></div></div></blockqu=
ote></span><div>The reasoning was, that there was a lot of arguing over fre=
eze exceptions. In particular, because some vendors promised customers feat=
ures in 4.6 - not all of which made it. Part of the rationale for shorter c=
ycles is that the customer impact of a missing a release will be less sever=
e.=C2=A0</div><span class=3D""><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px">- For those that are interest=
ed in joining, list the email, mailing list to use.</div></div></div></div>=
</blockquote></span><div>I added a link</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font c=
olor=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>Lars</div></font></span><span class=3D=
""><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Wei Liu <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wei.liu2@citrix.com" target=3D"_blank">wei.liu2@=
citrix.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all<b=
r>
<br>
I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7<br>
release. Let me know if you have any comments.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&amp;preview=3Dtrue" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&am=
p;preview=3Dtrue</a><br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Wei.<br>
<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Sarah Conway<br></div><div>Director of=
 PR Services, Collaborative Projects=C2=A0</div><div>The Linux Foundation<b=
r><a href=3D"mailto:sconway@linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">sconway@=
linuxfoundation.org</a></div><div><a href=3D"tel:%28978%29%20578-5300" valu=
e=3D"+19785785300" target=3D"_blank">(978) 578-5300</a> =C2=A0Cell</div><di=
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</div>
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So how about:

> With Xen 4.6 released in October, we are already one month into the =
new cycle.
Add...
Which means it is time to start planning for the next release.

> Some might be wondering what took me so long to write the announcement =
email and this blog post. The reason is that Xen community underwent =
thorough
> </a href=3D"..." >discussion</a> on how to manage releases from =
xen-unstable and its impact on <a href=3D"...">stable releases</a>.=20
Note (we always have waited for a month to start a new cycle, so no need =
to apologise).

Instead, how about...
You may remember that one of the goals of the <a =
href=3D"https://blog.xenproject.org/2015/02/16/xen-project-4-6-planning-op=
ens/ =
<https://blog.xenproject.org/2015/02/16/xen-project-4-6-planning-opens/>">=
4.6 release planning</a> was <em>to create smoother developer experience =
and to release Xen 4.6 on time</em>. Both goals were achieved, so it was =
time to think where to go from here. Thus, the Xen community underwent =
thorough
> </a href=3D"..." >discussion</a> on how to manage releases from =
xen-unstable and its impact on <a href=3D"...">stable releases</a>.=20
Maybe replace: "manage releases" ... "manage future releases"

> After the 4.7 release, we will start to <strong>release Xen every 6 =
months</strong>: at the beginning of <strong>June</strong> and =
<strong>December</strong>.
Add ...
A regular 6 monthly release schedule has worked well for Ubuntu, =
OpenStack and many other projects. The idea behind it is a simple one: =
set a hard date and modify your goals to match that timeline. Which is =
also, why we dropped feature freeze exceptions, which create overheads =
and introduce unnecessary risk and debate. In addition, the new fixed =
release schedule will help open source projects and commercial vendors =
who consume Xen Project releases to plan their own releases better. And =
it allows us to set a schedule that ensures that every single release =
cycle is only affected by a single holiday period and that we have a Xen =
Project developer event (be at a Hackathon or Xen Project Developer =
Summit) during each release cycle.

>=20
Replace with: "The stable release scheme is unchanged:18 months full =
support, plus 18 months security fixes afterwards."
After that leave things as they are

Regards
Lars

> On 10 Nov 2015, at 18:11, Sarah Conway <sconway@linuxfoundation.org> =
wrote:
>=20
> I would still suggest adding positives knowing that some will find =
their own negatives.=20
>=20
> Sarah=20
>=20
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com =
<mailto:lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com>> wrote:
>=20
>> On 10 Nov 2015, at 16:11, Sarah Conway <sconway@linuxfoundation.org =
<mailto:sconway@linuxfoundation.org>> wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi,
>>=20
>> I made a few small copy edits. I was not able to open any of the =
links or view the slides, so please double-check that.=20
> Odd, they all work for me
>=20
>>=20
>> A few comments:
>> - I would delete this sentence:  Some might be wondering what took me =
so long to write the announcement email and this blog post.=20
> I will leave this up to Wei. It's his personal style. If this was =
picked up, it's a nice harmless trap quote they can focus on.=20
>=20
>> - Do you see any negatives stemming from continue to make release =
cycles shorter and more predictable? If so, can we address them head on? =
Or alternatively, expand more on the benefits of shorter, more =
predictable release cycles, draw comparisons to other OS projects that =
are following this trend.=20
> No negatives. I am not sure whether it's worthwhile doing this, but =
Ubuntu and OpenStack run 6 months cycles
>=20
>> - I looked over the slides and it seems like you are a lot more =
strict on what can be added during the RC part of the cycle. Am I =
mistaken here or was there a reasoning behind it?
>=20
> The reasoning was, that there was a lot of arguing over freeze =
exceptions. In particular, because some vendors promised customers =
features in 4.6 - not all of which made it. Part of the rationale for =
shorter cycles is that the customer impact of a missing a release will =
be less severe.=20
>=20
>> - For those that are interested in joining, list the email, mailing =
list to use.
>=20
> I added a link
>=20
> Lars
>=20
>>=20
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com =
<mailto:wei.liu2@citrix.com>> wrote:
>> Hi all
>>=20
>> I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7
>> release. Let me know if you have any comments.
>>=20
>> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&preview=3Dtrue =
<https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&preview=3Dtrue>
>>=20
>> Thanks
>> Wei.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">So how about:<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;With Xen 4.6 released in October, we are already =
one month into the new cycle.</div><div class=3D"">Add...</div><div =
class=3D"">Which means it is time to start planning for the next =
release.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;Some might be wondering what took me so long to =
write the announcement email and this blog post. The reason is that Xen =
community underwent thorough</div><div class=3D"">&gt; &lt;/a href=3D"..."=
 &gt;discussion&lt;/a&gt; on how to manage releases from xen-unstable =
and its impact on &lt;a href=3D"..."&gt;stable =
releases&lt;/a&gt;.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Note (we always have =
waited for a month to start a new cycle, so no need to =
apologise).</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Instead, how about...</div><div class=3D"">You may remember =
that one of the goals of the &lt;a href=3D"<a =
href=3D"https://blog.xenproject.org/2015/02/16/xen-project-4-6-planning-op=
ens/" =
class=3D"">https://blog.xenproject.org/2015/02/16/xen-project-4-6-planning=
-opens/</a>"&gt;4.6 release planning&lt;/a&gt; was &lt;em&gt;to create =
smoother developer experience and to release Xen 4.6 on time&lt;/em&gt;. =
Both goals were achieved, so it was time to think where to go from here. =
Thus, the Xen community underwent thorough</div><div class=3D"">&gt; =
&lt;/a href=3D"..." &gt;discussion&lt;/a&gt; on how to manage releases =
from xen-unstable and its impact on &lt;a href=3D"..."&gt;stable =
releases&lt;/a&gt;.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Maybe replace: "manage =
releases" ... "manage future releases"</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">&gt; After the 4.7 release, we will =
start to &lt;strong&gt;release Xen every 6 months&lt;/strong&gt;: at the =
beginning of &lt;strong&gt;June&lt;/strong&gt; and =
&lt;strong&gt;December&lt;/strong&gt;.</div><div class=3D"">Add =
...</div><div class=3D"">A regular 6 monthly release schedule has worked =
well for Ubuntu, OpenStack and many other projects.&nbsp;The idea behind =
it is a simple one: set a hard date and modify your goals to match that =
timeline. Which is also, why we dropped feature freeze exceptions, which =
create overheads and introduce unnecessary risk and debate. In addition, =
the new fixed release schedule will help open source projects and =
commercial vendors who consume Xen Project releases to plan their own =
releases better. And it allows us to set a schedule that ensures that =
every single release cycle is only affected by a single holiday period =
and that we have a Xen Project developer event (be at a Hackathon or Xen =
Project Developer Summit) during each release cycle.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"">Replace with: "The stable release scheme is unchanged:18 =
months full support, plus 18 months security fixes =
afterwards."</div><div class=3D"">After that leave things as they =
are</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Regards</div><div class=3D"">Lars</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 10 Nov 2015, at 18:11, Sarah Conway &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:sconway@linuxfoundation.org" =
class=3D"">sconway@linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">I would still suggest adding positives knowing that some will =
find their own negatives.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Sarah&nbsp;</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:56 PM, =
Lars Kurth <span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word" class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><span class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On 10 Nov 2015, at 16:11, Sarah Conway &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:sconway@linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">sconway@linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Hi,<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I made a few small copy =
edits. I was not able to open any of the links or view the slides, so =
please double-check =
that.&nbsp;</div></div></div></blockquote></span>Odd, they all work for =
me</div><div class=3D""><span class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">A few comments:</div><div =
style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">- I would delete this =
sentence:&nbsp;<span style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:'Open =
Sans',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:24px" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:'Open =
Sans',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:24px" =
class=3D"">Some might be wondering what took me so long to write the =
announcement email and this blog =
post.&nbsp;</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></span>I will =
leave this up to Wei. It's his personal style. If this was picked up, =
it's a nice harmless trap quote they can focus on.&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D""><span class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">- =
Do you see any negatives stemming from continue to make release cycles =
shorter and more predictable? If so, can we address them head on? Or =
alternatively, expand more on the benefits of shorter, more =
predictable&nbsp;release cycles, draw&nbsp;comparisons&nbsp;to other OS =
projects that are following this =
trend.&nbsp;</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></span><span =
style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px" class=3D"">No =
negatives. I am not sure whether it's worthwhile doing this, but Ubuntu =
and OpenStack run 6 months cycles</span></div><div class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:14px" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span></font><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">- I looked over the slides and it =
seems like you are a lot more strict on what can be added during the RC =
part of the cycle. Am I mistaken here or was there a reasoning behind =
it?</div></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div class=3D"">The =
reasoning was, that there was a lot of arguing over freeze exceptions. =
In particular, because some vendors promised customers features in 4.6 - =
not all of which made it. Part of the rationale for shorter cycles is =
that the customer impact of a missing a release will be less =
severe.&nbsp;</div><span class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">- For those that =
are interested in joining, list the email, mailing list to =
use.</div></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div class=3D"">I added =
a link</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888" class=3D""><div=
 class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Lars</div></font></span><span class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, =
Nov 10, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Wei Liu <span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:wei.liu2@citrix.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">wei.liu2@citrix.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7<br =
class=3D"">
release. Let me know if you have any comments.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<a href=3D"https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&amp;preview=3Dtrue" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&amp;preview=3Dtrue</a><b=
r class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Thanks<br class=3D"">
Wei.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
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</blockquote></div><br class=3D""><br clear=3D"all" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>-- <br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">Sarah Conway<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Director of =
PR Services, Collaborative Projects&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">The Linux =
Foundation<br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:sconway@linuxfoundation.org" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">sconway@linuxfoundation.org</a></div><div =
class=3D""><a href=3D"tel:%28978%29%20578-5300" value=3D"+19785785300" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">(978) 578-5300</a> &nbsp;Cell</div><div =
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</div>
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class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div=
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Projects&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">The Linux Foundation<br class=3D""><a =
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So how about:

> With Xen 4.6 released in October, we are already one month into the =
new cycle.
Add...
Which means it is time to start planning for the next release.

> Some might be wondering what took me so long to write the announcement =
email and this blog post. The reason is that Xen community underwent =
thorough
> </a href=3D"..." >discussion</a> on how to manage releases from =
xen-unstable and its impact on <a href=3D"...">stable releases</a>.=20
Note (we always have waited for a month to start a new cycle, so no need =
to apologise).

Instead, how about...
You may remember that one of the goals of the <a =
href=3D"https://blog.xenproject.org/2015/02/16/xen-project-4-6-planning-op=
ens/ =
<https://blog.xenproject.org/2015/02/16/xen-project-4-6-planning-opens/>">=
4.6 release planning</a> was <em>to create smoother developer experience =
and to release Xen 4.6 on time</em>. Both goals were achieved, so it was =
time to think where to go from here. Thus, the Xen community underwent =
thorough
> </a href=3D"..." >discussion</a> on how to manage releases from =
xen-unstable and its impact on <a href=3D"...">stable releases</a>.=20
Maybe replace: "manage releases" ... "manage future releases"

> After the 4.7 release, we will start to <strong>release Xen every 6 =
months</strong>: at the beginning of <strong>June</strong> and =
<strong>December</strong>.
Add ...
A regular 6 monthly release schedule has worked well for Ubuntu, =
OpenStack and many other projects. The idea behind it is a simple one: =
set a hard date and modify your goals to match that timeline. Which is =
also, why we dropped feature freeze exceptions, which create overheads =
and introduce unnecessary risk and debate. In addition, the new fixed =
release schedule will help open source projects and commercial vendors =
who consume Xen Project releases to plan their own releases better. And =
it allows us to set a schedule that ensures that every single release =
cycle is only affected by a single holiday period and that we have a Xen =
Project developer event (be at a Hackathon or Xen Project Developer =
Summit) during each release cycle.

>=20
Replace with: "The stable release scheme is unchanged:18 months full =
support, plus 18 months security fixes afterwards."
After that leave things as they are

Regards
Lars

> On 10 Nov 2015, at 18:11, Sarah Conway <sconway@linuxfoundation.org> =
wrote:
>=20
> I would still suggest adding positives knowing that some will find =
their own negatives.=20
>=20
> Sarah=20
>=20
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com =
<mailto:lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com>> wrote:
>=20
>> On 10 Nov 2015, at 16:11, Sarah Conway <sconway@linuxfoundation.org =
<mailto:sconway@linuxfoundation.org>> wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi,
>>=20
>> I made a few small copy edits. I was not able to open any of the =
links or view the slides, so please double-check that.=20
> Odd, they all work for me
>=20
>>=20
>> A few comments:
>> - I would delete this sentence:  Some might be wondering what took me =
so long to write the announcement email and this blog post.=20
> I will leave this up to Wei. It's his personal style. If this was =
picked up, it's a nice harmless trap quote they can focus on.=20
>=20
>> - Do you see any negatives stemming from continue to make release =
cycles shorter and more predictable? If so, can we address them head on? =
Or alternatively, expand more on the benefits of shorter, more =
predictable release cycles, draw comparisons to other OS projects that =
are following this trend.=20
> No negatives. I am not sure whether it's worthwhile doing this, but =
Ubuntu and OpenStack run 6 months cycles
>=20
>> - I looked over the slides and it seems like you are a lot more =
strict on what can be added during the RC part of the cycle. Am I =
mistaken here or was there a reasoning behind it?
>=20
> The reasoning was, that there was a lot of arguing over freeze =
exceptions. In particular, because some vendors promised customers =
features in 4.6 - not all of which made it. Part of the rationale for =
shorter cycles is that the customer impact of a missing a release will =
be less severe.=20
>=20
>> - For those that are interested in joining, list the email, mailing =
list to use.
>=20
> I added a link
>=20
> Lars
>=20
>>=20
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com =
<mailto:wei.liu2@citrix.com>> wrote:
>> Hi all
>>=20
>> I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7
>> release. Let me know if you have any comments.
>>=20
>> https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&preview=3Dtrue =
<https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&preview=3Dtrue>
>>=20
>> Thanks
>> Wei.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">So how about:<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;With Xen 4.6 released in October, we are already =
one month into the new cycle.</div><div class=3D"">Add...</div><div =
class=3D"">Which means it is time to start planning for the next =
release.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;Some might be wondering what took me so long to =
write the announcement email and this blog post. The reason is that Xen =
community underwent thorough</div><div class=3D"">&gt; &lt;/a href=3D"..."=
 &gt;discussion&lt;/a&gt; on how to manage releases from xen-unstable =
and its impact on &lt;a href=3D"..."&gt;stable =
releases&lt;/a&gt;.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Note (we always have =
waited for a month to start a new cycle, so no need to =
apologise).</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Instead, how about...</div><div class=3D"">You may remember =
that one of the goals of the &lt;a href=3D"<a =
href=3D"https://blog.xenproject.org/2015/02/16/xen-project-4-6-planning-op=
ens/" =
class=3D"">https://blog.xenproject.org/2015/02/16/xen-project-4-6-planning=
-opens/</a>"&gt;4.6 release planning&lt;/a&gt; was &lt;em&gt;to create =
smoother developer experience and to release Xen 4.6 on time&lt;/em&gt;. =
Both goals were achieved, so it was time to think where to go from here. =
Thus, the Xen community underwent thorough</div><div class=3D"">&gt; =
&lt;/a href=3D"..." &gt;discussion&lt;/a&gt; on how to manage releases =
from xen-unstable and its impact on &lt;a href=3D"..."&gt;stable =
releases&lt;/a&gt;.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Maybe replace: "manage =
releases" ... "manage future releases"</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">&gt; After the 4.7 release, we will =
start to &lt;strong&gt;release Xen every 6 months&lt;/strong&gt;: at the =
beginning of &lt;strong&gt;June&lt;/strong&gt; and =
&lt;strong&gt;December&lt;/strong&gt;.</div><div class=3D"">Add =
...</div><div class=3D"">A regular 6 monthly release schedule has worked =
well for Ubuntu, OpenStack and many other projects.&nbsp;The idea behind =
it is a simple one: set a hard date and modify your goals to match that =
timeline. Which is also, why we dropped feature freeze exceptions, which =
create overheads and introduce unnecessary risk and debate. In addition, =
the new fixed release schedule will help open source projects and =
commercial vendors who consume Xen Project releases to plan their own =
releases better. And it allows us to set a schedule that ensures that =
every single release cycle is only affected by a single holiday period =
and that we have a Xen Project developer event (be at a Hackathon or Xen =
Project Developer Summit) during each release cycle.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"">Replace with: "The stable release scheme is unchanged:18 =
months full support, plus 18 months security fixes =
afterwards."</div><div class=3D"">After that leave things as they =
are</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Regards</div><div class=3D"">Lars</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 10 Nov 2015, at 18:11, Sarah Conway &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:sconway@linuxfoundation.org" =
class=3D"">sconway@linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">I would still suggest adding positives knowing that some will =
find their own negatives.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Sarah&nbsp;</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:56 PM, =
Lars Kurth <span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word" class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><span class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On 10 Nov 2015, at 16:11, Sarah Conway &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:sconway@linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">sconway@linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Hi,<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I made a few small copy =
edits. I was not able to open any of the links or view the slides, so =
please double-check =
that.&nbsp;</div></div></div></blockquote></span>Odd, they all work for =
me</div><div class=3D""><span class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">A few comments:</div><div =
style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">- I would delete this =
sentence:&nbsp;<span style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:'Open =
Sans',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:24px" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:'Open =
Sans',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:24px" =
class=3D"">Some might be wondering what took me so long to write the =
announcement email and this blog =
post.&nbsp;</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></span>I will =
leave this up to Wei. It's his personal style. If this was picked up, =
it's a nice harmless trap quote they can focus on.&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D""><span class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">- =
Do you see any negatives stemming from continue to make release cycles =
shorter and more predictable? If so, can we address them head on? Or =
alternatively, expand more on the benefits of shorter, more =
predictable&nbsp;release cycles, draw&nbsp;comparisons&nbsp;to other OS =
projects that are following this =
trend.&nbsp;</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></span><span =
style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px" class=3D"">No =
negatives. I am not sure whether it's worthwhile doing this, but Ubuntu =
and OpenStack run 6 months cycles</span></div><div class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:14px" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span></font><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">- I looked over the slides and it =
seems like you are a lot more strict on what can be added during the RC =
part of the cycle. Am I mistaken here or was there a reasoning behind =
it?</div></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div class=3D"">The =
reasoning was, that there was a lot of arguing over freeze exceptions. =
In particular, because some vendors promised customers features in 4.6 - =
not all of which made it. Part of the rationale for shorter cycles is =
that the customer impact of a missing a release will be less =
severe.&nbsp;</div><span class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">- For those that =
are interested in joining, list the email, mailing list to =
use.</div></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div class=3D"">I added =
a link</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888" class=3D""><div=
 class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Lars</div></font></span><span class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, =
Nov 10, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Wei Liu <span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:wei.liu2@citrix.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">wei.liu2@citrix.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
I wrote a blog post with the help from Lars about the upcoming 4.7<br =
class=3D"">
release. Let me know if you have any comments.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<a href=3D"https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&amp;preview=3Dtrue" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">https://blog.xenproject.org/?p=3D11139&amp;preview=3Dtrue</a><b=
r class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Thanks<br class=3D"">
Wei.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
_______________________________________________<br class=3D"">
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</blockquote></div><br class=3D""><br clear=3D"all" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>-- <br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">Sarah Conway<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Director of =
PR Services, Collaborative Projects&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">The Linux =
Foundation<br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:sconway@linuxfoundation.org" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">sconway@linuxfoundation.org</a></div><div =
class=3D""><a href=3D"tel:%28978%29%20578-5300" value=3D"+19785785300" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">(978) 578-5300</a> &nbsp;Cell</div><div =
class=3D"">Skype: &nbsp;sarah.k.conway</div></div></div></div></div>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br class=3D"">Publicity =
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 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Sarah Conway<br =
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Projects&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">The Linux Foundation<br class=3D""><a =
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 05:56:38PM +0000, Lars Kurth wrote:
> 
> > On 10 Nov 2015, at 16:11, Sarah Conway <sconway@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I made a few small copy edits. I was not able to open any of the links or view the slides, so please double-check that. 
> Odd, they all work for me
> 
> > 
> > A few comments:
> > - I would delete this sentence:  Some might be wondering what took me so long to write the announcement email and this blog post. 
> I will leave this up to Wei. It's his personal style. If this was picked up, it's a nice harmless trap quote they can focus on. 
> 

I think it is harmless. I will leave it as it is.

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 05:56:38PM +0000, Lars Kurth wrote:
> 
> > On 10 Nov 2015, at 16:11, Sarah Conway <sconway@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I made a few small copy edits. I was not able to open any of the links or view the slides, so please double-check that. 
> Odd, they all work for me
> 
> > 
> > A few comments:
> > - I would delete this sentence:  Some might be wondering what took me so long to write the announcement email and this blog post. 
> I will leave this up to Wei. It's his personal style. If this was picked up, it's a nice harmless trap quote they can focus on. 
> 

I think it is harmless. I will leave it as it is.

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On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:30:39AM +0000, Lars Kurth wrote:
> So how about:
> 
> > With Xen 4.6 released in October, we are already one month into the new cycle.
> Add...
> Which means it is time to start planning for the next release.
> 
> > Some might be wondering what took me so long to write the announcement email and this blog post. The reason is that Xen community underwent thorough
> > </a href="..." >discussion</a> on how to manage releases from xen-unstable and its impact on <a href="...">stable releases</a>. 
> Note (we always have waited for a month to start a new cycle, so no need to apologise).
> 
> Instead, how about...
> You may remember that one of the goals of the <a href="https://blog.xenproject.org/2015/02/16/xen-project-4-6-planning-opens/ <https://blog.xenproject.org/2015/02/16/xen-project-4-6-planning-opens/>">4.6 release planning</a> was <em>to create smoother developer experience and to release Xen 4.6 on time</em>. Both goals were achieved, so it was time to think where to go from here. Thus, the Xen community underwent thorough
> > </a href="..." >discussion</a> on how to manage releases from xen-unstable and its impact on <a href="...">stable releases</a>. 
> Maybe replace: "manage releases" ... "manage future releases"
> 
> > After the 4.7 release, we will start to <strong>release Xen every 6 months</strong>: at the beginning of <strong>June</strong> and <strong>December</strong>.
> Add ...
> A regular 6 monthly release schedule has worked well for Ubuntu, OpenStack and many other projects. The idea behind it is a simple one: set a hard date and modify your goals to match that timeline. Which is also, why we dropped feature freeze exceptions, which create overheads and introduce unnecessary risk and debate. In addition, the new fixed release schedule will help open source projects and commercial vendors who consume Xen Project releases to plan their own releases better. And it allows us to set a schedule that ensures that every single release cycle is only affected by a single holiday period and that we have a Xen Project developer event (be at a Hackathon or Xen Project Developer Summit) during each release cycle.
> 

Fine by me.

> > 
> Replace with: "The stable release scheme is unchanged:18 months full support, plus 18 months security fixes afterwards."
> After that leave things as they are


One negative point other might pick is that they say more release means
less resource for stable release maintenance. Not sure we need to
emphasise more on the unchanged stable release scheme.

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On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:30:39AM +0000, Lars Kurth wrote:
> So how about:
> 
> > With Xen 4.6 released in October, we are already one month into the new cycle.
> Add...
> Which means it is time to start planning for the next release.
> 
> > Some might be wondering what took me so long to write the announcement email and this blog post. The reason is that Xen community underwent thorough
> > </a href="..." >discussion</a> on how to manage releases from xen-unstable and its impact on <a href="...">stable releases</a>. 
> Note (we always have waited for a month to start a new cycle, so no need to apologise).
> 
> Instead, how about...
> You may remember that one of the goals of the <a href="https://blog.xenproject.org/2015/02/16/xen-project-4-6-planning-opens/ <https://blog.xenproject.org/2015/02/16/xen-project-4-6-planning-opens/>">4.6 release planning</a> was <em>to create smoother developer experience and to release Xen 4.6 on time</em>. Both goals were achieved, so it was time to think where to go from here. Thus, the Xen community underwent thorough
> > </a href="..." >discussion</a> on how to manage releases from xen-unstable and its impact on <a href="...">stable releases</a>. 
> Maybe replace: "manage releases" ... "manage future releases"
> 
> > After the 4.7 release, we will start to <strong>release Xen every 6 months</strong>: at the beginning of <strong>June</strong> and <strong>December</strong>.
> Add ...
> A regular 6 monthly release schedule has worked well for Ubuntu, OpenStack and many other projects. The idea behind it is a simple one: set a hard date and modify your goals to match that timeline. Which is also, why we dropped feature freeze exceptions, which create overheads and introduce unnecessary risk and debate. In addition, the new fixed release schedule will help open source projects and commercial vendors who consume Xen Project releases to plan their own releases better. And it allows us to set a schedule that ensures that every single release cycle is only affected by a single holiday period and that we have a Xen Project developer event (be at a Hackathon or Xen Project Developer Summit) during each release cycle.
> 

Fine by me.

> > 
> Replace with: "The stable release scheme is unchanged:18 months full support, plus 18 months security fixes afterwards."
> After that leave things as they are


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less resource for stable release maintenance. Not sure we need to
emphasise more on the unchanged stable release scheme.

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> On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:49, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
> 
> One negative point other might pick is that they say more release means
> less resource for stable release maintenance. Not sure we need to
> emphasise more on the unchanged stable release scheme.

Possible, but I don't want them to point them to it and it wasn't very conclusive in the discussion. If this turns out to be an issue, we could always change the point release cadence from 4 months to 6 to claw back some effort, or revisit the stable release maintenance.

Will update the post and sync with Zibby later

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> On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:49, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
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> One negative point other might pick is that they say more release means
> less resource for stable release maintenance. Not sure we need to
> emphasise more on the unchanged stable release scheme.

Possible, but I don't want them to point them to it and it wasn't very conclusive in the discussion. If this turns out to be an issue, we could always change the point release cadence from 4 months to 6 to claw back some effort, or revisit the stable release maintenance.

Will update the post and sync with Zibby later

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On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:53:50AM +0000, Lars Kurth wrote:
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> > On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:49, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
> > 
> > One negative point other might pick is that they say more release means
> > less resource for stable release maintenance. Not sure we need to
> > emphasise more on the unchanged stable release scheme.
> 
> Possible, but I don't want them to point them to it and it wasn't very conclusive in the discussion. If this turns out to be an issue, we could always change the point release cadence from 4 months to 6 to claw back some effort, or revisit the stable release maintenance.
> 

Makes sense.

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Makes sense.

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> On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:56, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
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>> Possible, but I don't want them to point them to it and it wasn't very conclusive in the discussion. If this turns out to be an issue, we could always change the point release cadence from 4 months to 6 to claw back some effort, or revisit the stable release maintenance.
>> 
> 
> Makes sense.

All is changed now in the blog post.
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> On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:56, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
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>> Possible, but I don't want them to point them to it and it wasn't very conclusive in the discussion. If this turns out to be an issue, we could always change the point release cadence from 4 months to 6 to claw back some effort, or revisit the stable release maintenance.
>> 
> 
> Makes sense.

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On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:03:07AM +0000, Lars Kurth wrote:
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> > On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:56, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Possible, but I don't want them to point them to it and it wasn't very conclusive in the discussion. If this turns out to be an issue, we could always change the point release cadence from 4 months to 6 to claw back some effort, or revisit the stable release maintenance.
> >> 
> > 
> > Makes sense.
> 
> All is changed now in the blog post.

LGTM. Thanks for doing this. Do you want to press the button or shall I?

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> > On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:56, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
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> >> Possible, but I don't want them to point them to it and it wasn't very conclusive in the discussion. If this turns out to be an issue, we could always change the point release cadence from 4 months to 6 to claw back some effort, or revisit the stable release maintenance.
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> All is changed now in the blog post.

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> On 11 Nov 2015, at 11:09, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:03:07AM +0000, Lars Kurth wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:56, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Possible, but I don't want them to point them to it and it wasn't very conclusive in the discussion. If this turns out to be an issue, we could always change the point release cadence from 4 months to 6 to claw back some effort, or revisit the stable release maintenance.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Makes sense.
>> 
>> All is changed now in the blog post.
> 
> LGTM. Thanks for doing this. Do you want to press the button or shall I?

I don't mind either way. Why don't you!
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> On 11 Nov 2015, at 11:09, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:03:07AM +0000, Lars Kurth wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:56, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Possible, but I don't want them to point them to it and it wasn't very conclusive in the discussion. If this turns out to be an issue, we could always change the point release cadence from 4 months to 6 to claw back some effort, or revisit the stable release maintenance.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Makes sense.
>> 
>> All is changed now in the blog post.
> 
> LGTM. Thanks for doing this. Do you want to press the button or shall I?

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> > On 11 Nov 2015, at 11:09, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
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> > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:03:07AM +0000, Lars Kurth wrote:
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> >>> On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:56, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> Possible, but I don't want them to point them to it and it wasn't very conclusive in the discussion. If this turns out to be an issue, we could always change the point release cadence from 4 months to 6 to claw back some effort, or revisit the stable release maintenance.
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> >>> 
> >>> Makes sense.
> >> 
> >> All is changed now in the blog post.
> > 
> > LGTM. Thanks for doing this. Do you want to press the button or shall I?
> 
> I don't mind either way. Why don't you!

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> >>> 
> >>> Makes sense.
> >> 
> >> All is changed now in the blog post.
> > 
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> I don't mind either way. Why don't you!

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