From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Mar 10 17:42:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:42:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WN4Db-0002R2-7s for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:42:27 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WN4Da-0002Qx-Dt for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:42:26 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:64587] by server-6.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id FB/35-19576-189FD135; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:42:25 +0000 X-Env-Sender: konrad.wilk@oracle.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1394473343!194486!1 X-Originating-IP: [141.146.126.69] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTQxLjE0Ni4xMjYuNjkgPT4gMjc3MjE4\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 723 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2014 17:42:25 -0000 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (HELO aserp1040.oracle.com) (141.146.126.69) by server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Mar 2014 17:42:25 -0000 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s2AHgMhm016921 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:42:23 GMT Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s2AHgLe6000392 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:42:22 GMT Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s2AHgLXm003301 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:42:21 GMT Received: from phenom.dumpdata.com (/50.195.21.189) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:42:20 -0700 Received: by phenom.dumpdata.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EA1EC1C02F0; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 13:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 13:42:19 -0400 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk To: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org, Marcos Matsunaga Message-ID: <20140310174219.GA10302@phenom.dumpdata.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] Subject: [Wg-test-framework] Marcos from Oracle to join WG-test-framework. X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hey, I am happy to introduce Marcos Matsunaga from Oracle to the workgroup. He will be looking at understanding and figuring out how to make XenRT (or OSSTest) also do Oracle DataBases. This way we can leverage the tools to do better testing coverage of enterprise products and figure out if there are any regressions. Thank you. P.S. He has already used the mailman tool to subscribe himself to the list. _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Mar 10 17:42:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:42:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WN4Db-0002R2-7s for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:42:27 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WN4Da-0002Qx-Dt for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:42:26 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:64587] by server-6.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id FB/35-19576-189FD135; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:42:25 +0000 X-Env-Sender: konrad.wilk@oracle.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1394473343!194486!1 X-Originating-IP: [141.146.126.69] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTQxLjE0Ni4xMjYuNjkgPT4gMjc3MjE4\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 723 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2014 17:42:25 -0000 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (HELO aserp1040.oracle.com) (141.146.126.69) by server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Mar 2014 17:42:25 -0000 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s2AHgMhm016921 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:42:23 GMT Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s2AHgLe6000392 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:42:22 GMT Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s2AHgLXm003301 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:42:21 GMT Received: from phenom.dumpdata.com (/50.195.21.189) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:42:20 -0700 Received: by phenom.dumpdata.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EA1EC1C02F0; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 13:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 13:42:19 -0400 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk To: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org, Marcos Matsunaga Message-ID: <20140310174219.GA10302@phenom.dumpdata.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] Subject: [Wg-test-framework] Marcos from Oracle to join WG-test-framework. X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Hey, I am happy to introduce Marcos Matsunaga from Oracle to the workgroup. He will be looking at understanding and figuring out how to make XenRT (or OSSTest) also do Oracle DataBases. This way we can leverage the tools to do better testing coverage of enterprise products and figure out if there are any regressions. Thank you. P.S. He has already used the mailman tool to subscribe himself to the list. _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Mar 10 18:20:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:20:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WN4oN-0004Rg-EO for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:20:27 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WN4oM-0004Rb-BE for Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:20:26 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:23159] by server-8.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 3F/17-11310-9620E135; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:20:25 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dslutz@verizon.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1394475623!196700!1 X-Originating-IP: [140.108.26.143] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTQwLjEwOC4yNi4xNDMgPT4gMjYwNTMz\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19587 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2014 18:20:24 -0000 Received: from fldsmtpe04.verizon.com (HELO fldsmtpe04.verizon.com) (140.108.26.143) by server-14.tower-206.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Mar 2014 18:20:24 -0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi02.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.144]) by fldsmtpe04.verizon.com with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2014 18:20:23 +0000 From: Don Slutz X-VzAPP: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,625,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="670374387" Received: from unknown (HELO don-760.CloudSwitch.com) ([162.47.6.230]) by fldsmtpi02.verizon.com with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2014 18:20:22 +0000 Message-ID: <531E0266.5010808@terremark.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:20:22 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org Cc: Ian Jackson Subject: [Wg-test-framework] co-loc high level needs X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org I do not know if Ian Jackson is on the mailing list, so I included him. I do not know if Doug Clark is on this list (and do not have an email address for him). The high level needs I have been using is: 1/2 rack to start, possible 1 rack in the 1st year. 2 servers that have public IPs. Rest of servers on internal network. Basic (minimal) server support (hardware install, cabling, RMA, etc.) I have started the contact to: 1. Verizon.com (terremark.com). 2. Csc.com Are there other major co-loc providers that need to be contacted? Do we want to use a cheaper "local" co-loc provider? -Don Slutz _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Mar 10 18:20:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:20:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WN4oN-0004Rg-EO for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:20:27 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WN4oM-0004Rb-BE for Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:20:26 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:23159] by server-8.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 3F/17-11310-9620E135; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:20:25 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dslutz@verizon.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1394475623!196700!1 X-Originating-IP: [140.108.26.143] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTQwLjEwOC4yNi4xNDMgPT4gMjYwNTMz\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19587 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2014 18:20:24 -0000 Received: from fldsmtpe04.verizon.com (HELO fldsmtpe04.verizon.com) (140.108.26.143) by server-14.tower-206.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Mar 2014 18:20:24 -0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi02.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.144]) by fldsmtpe04.verizon.com with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2014 18:20:23 +0000 From: Don Slutz X-VzAPP: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,625,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="670374387" Received: from unknown (HELO don-760.CloudSwitch.com) ([162.47.6.230]) by fldsmtpi02.verizon.com with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2014 18:20:22 +0000 Message-ID: <531E0266.5010808@terremark.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:20:22 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org Cc: Ian Jackson Subject: [Wg-test-framework] co-loc high level needs X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org I do not know if Ian Jackson is on the mailing list, so I included him. I do not know if Doug Clark is on this list (and do not have an email address for him). The high level needs I have been using is: 1/2 rack to start, possible 1 rack in the 1st year. 2 servers that have public IPs. Rest of servers on internal network. Basic (minimal) server support (hardware install, cabling, RMA, etc.) I have started the contact to: 1. Verizon.com (terremark.com). 2. Csc.com Are there other major co-loc providers that need to be contacted? Do we want to use a cheaper "local" co-loc provider? -Don Slutz _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Mar 12 16:14:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:14:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WNlnf-000713-1w for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:14:35 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WNlnd-00070u-Mw for Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:14:33 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:29728] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id D1/E7-13602-9E780235; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:14:33 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Jackson@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1394640871!1619218!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6012 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2014 16:14:32 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Mar 2014 16:14:32 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,639,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="109223899" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2014 16:14:31 +0000 Received: from norwich.cam.xci-test.com (10.80.248.129) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 12:14:30 -0400 Received: from mariner.cam.xci-test.com ([10.80.2.22] helo=mariner.uk.xensource.com) by norwich.cam.xci-test.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WNlnZ-0007FB-T0; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:14:29 +0000 Received: from iwj by mariner.uk.xensource.com with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WNlnY-0006rZ-4d; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:14:28 +0000 From: Ian Jackson MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <21280.34786.545397.90661@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:14:26 +0000 To: Don Slutz In-Reply-To: <531E0266.5010808@terremark.com> References: <531E0266.5010808@terremark.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.0 under 23.4.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Wg-test-framework] co-loc high level needs X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Don Slutz writes ("co-loc high level needs"): > I do not know if Ian Jackson is on the mailing list, so I included him. > I do not know if Doug Clark is on this list (and do not have an email address for him). > > The high level needs I have been using is: > > 1/2 rack to start, possible 1 rack in the 1st year. I think we want to start with 24 test boxes which is already >1/2 rack. > 2 servers that have public IPs. > Rest of servers on internal network. Right. > Basic (minimal) server support (hardware install, cabling, RMA, etc.) During the call last month we discussed a more comprehensive level of help with software. I think that's really something we are going to need help with, as we don't have spare effort for this anywhere else. So, tasks like: * routine monitoring and security updates * backups * basic database admin (postgresql) > I have started the contact to: > 1. Verizon.com (terremark.com). > 2. Csc.com > > Are there other major co-loc providers that need to be contacted? > > Do we want to use a cheaper "local" co-loc provider? I think a provider which is local to one of the companies on the test WG is likely to provide better service at the same price. They will be more flexible and helpful. I certainly wouldn't limit it to "big names". As you're doing the searching I guess you should probably look near yourself - which is where exactly ? :-) Thanks, Ian. _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Mar 12 16:14:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:14:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WNlnf-000713-1w for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:14:35 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WNlnd-00070u-Mw for Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:14:33 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:29728] by server-3.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id D1/E7-13602-9E780235; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:14:33 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Jackson@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1394640871!1619218!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAzMDYwNDg=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6012 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2014 16:14:32 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Mar 2014 16:14:32 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,639,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="109223899" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL01.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2014 16:14:31 +0000 Received: from norwich.cam.xci-test.com (10.80.248.129) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 12:14:30 -0400 Received: from mariner.cam.xci-test.com ([10.80.2.22] helo=mariner.uk.xensource.com) by norwich.cam.xci-test.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WNlnZ-0007FB-T0; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:14:29 +0000 Received: from iwj by mariner.uk.xensource.com with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WNlnY-0006rZ-4d; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:14:28 +0000 From: Ian Jackson MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <21280.34786.545397.90661@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:14:26 +0000 To: Don Slutz In-Reply-To: <531E0266.5010808@terremark.com> References: <531E0266.5010808@terremark.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.0 under 23.4.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [Wg-test-framework] co-loc high level needs X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Don Slutz writes ("co-loc high level needs"): > I do not know if Ian Jackson is on the mailing list, so I included him. > I do not know if Doug Clark is on this list (and do not have an email address for him). > > The high level needs I have been using is: > > 1/2 rack to start, possible 1 rack in the 1st year. I think we want to start with 24 test boxes which is already >1/2 rack. > 2 servers that have public IPs. > Rest of servers on internal network. Right. > Basic (minimal) server support (hardware install, cabling, RMA, etc.) During the call last month we discussed a more comprehensive level of help with software. I think that's really something we are going to need help with, as we don't have spare effort for this anywhere else. So, tasks like: * routine monitoring and security updates * backups * basic database admin (postgresql) > I have started the contact to: > 1. Verizon.com (terremark.com). > 2. Csc.com > > Are there other major co-loc providers that need to be contacted? > > Do we want to use a cheaper "local" co-loc provider? I think a provider which is local to one of the companies on the test WG is likely to provide better service at the same price. They will be more flexible and helpful. I certainly wouldn't limit it to "big names". As you're doing the searching I guess you should probably look near yourself - which is where exactly ? :-) Thanks, Ian. _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Mar 13 15:33:12 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:33:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7dA-0004d1-H0 for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:33:12 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7d9-0004cp-8C for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:33:11 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:47782] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 26/A1-32066-6BFC1235; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:33:10 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Jackson@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1394724788!1504414!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12352 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2014 15:33:09 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-12.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Mar 2014 15:33:09 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,648,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="111055125" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2014 15:33:07 +0000 Received: from norwich.cam.xci-test.com (10.80.248.129) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:33:06 -0400 Received: from mariner.cam.xci-test.com ([10.80.2.22] helo=mariner.uk.xensource.com) by norwich.cam.xci-test.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7d4-0007Y2-Bz for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:33:06 +0000 Received: from iwj by mariner.uk.xensource.com with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7d4-0008AE-4X for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:33:06 +0000 From: Ian Jackson MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <21281.53169.873066.548714@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:33:05 +0000 To: X-DLP: MIA2 Subject: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org (As discussed, I think.) Initial hardware requirements Operational servers * Two identical mid-range servers with (say) 32G of RAM Two machines provided in case one dies for some reason. (Recovery strategy is to have backup of each VM on each server, and to manually bring up the backup VMs.) Full on-site warranty. To be used as: - firewall / NAT gateway (dom0) so each has a global internet connection - VM host for infrastructure VM(s) osstest probably wants about three infrastructure VMs one for pxe/dhcp/etc. one for the database one for osstest itself etc. To be running Debian wheezy with Xen, toolstack xl. Test boxes * 24 low to mid end test servers, in pairs or quads from a variety of manufacturers and a mix of CPU vendors eg 6x Dell (2x R210, 2x R310, 2x something a bit bigger?) 6x HP equivalent 6x equivalent from another big name vendor 6x no-name servers from supplier(s) local to our colo, Minimal warranty Infrastructure * One server to be a serial port concentrator running sympathy (for osstest) and/or xen use machinery (for xenrt) - with a 32-port serial PCI card (eg Rocketport) - ideally two PCI slots - can be very low-end - full warranty If this fail catastrophically we replace it with something similar from a local supplier and restore from backups. Separate from operational server VM hosts to avoid complicating VM hosts with hardware support (eg, to avoid PCI passthrough of serial port concentrators etc.) * One gbit switch for internal network -- _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Mar 13 15:33:12 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:33:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7dA-0004d1-H0 for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:33:12 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7d9-0004cp-8C for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:33:11 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:47782] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 26/A1-32066-6BFC1235; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:33:10 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Jackson@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1394724788!1504414!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12352 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2014 15:33:09 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-12.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Mar 2014 15:33:09 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,648,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="111055125" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2014 15:33:07 +0000 Received: from norwich.cam.xci-test.com (10.80.248.129) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.342.4; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:33:06 -0400 Received: from mariner.cam.xci-test.com ([10.80.2.22] helo=mariner.uk.xensource.com) by norwich.cam.xci-test.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7d4-0007Y2-Bz for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:33:06 +0000 Received: from iwj by mariner.uk.xensource.com with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7d4-0008AE-4X for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:33:06 +0000 From: Ian Jackson MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <21281.53169.873066.548714@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:33:05 +0000 To: X-DLP: MIA2 Subject: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org (As discussed, I think.) Initial hardware requirements Operational servers * Two identical mid-range servers with (say) 32G of RAM Two machines provided in case one dies for some reason. (Recovery strategy is to have backup of each VM on each server, and to manually bring up the backup VMs.) Full on-site warranty. To be used as: - firewall / NAT gateway (dom0) so each has a global internet connection - VM host for infrastructure VM(s) osstest probably wants about three infrastructure VMs one for pxe/dhcp/etc. one for the database one for osstest itself etc. To be running Debian wheezy with Xen, toolstack xl. Test boxes * 24 low to mid end test servers, in pairs or quads from a variety of manufacturers and a mix of CPU vendors eg 6x Dell (2x R210, 2x R310, 2x something a bit bigger?) 6x HP equivalent 6x equivalent from another big name vendor 6x no-name servers from supplier(s) local to our colo, Minimal warranty Infrastructure * One server to be a serial port concentrator running sympathy (for osstest) and/or xen use machinery (for xenrt) - with a 32-port serial PCI card (eg Rocketport) - ideally two PCI slots - can be very low-end - full warranty If this fail catastrophically we replace it with something similar from a local supplier and restore from backups. Separate from operational server VM hosts to avoid complicating VM hosts with hardware support (eg, to avoid PCI passthrough of serial port concentrators etc.) * One gbit switch for internal network -- _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Mar 13 15:51:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:51:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7up-0006px-0P for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:51:27 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7uY-0006oU-E4; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:51:22 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:58625] by server-1.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 27/26-10259-DE3D1235; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:51:09 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Chris.Shepherd@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1394725868!853962!1 X-Originating-IP: [185.25.65.24] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18864 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2014 15:51:08 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (185.25.65.24) by server-10.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Mar 2014 15:51:08 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,648,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="11408935" Received: from unknown (HELO AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.69.60.9]) by AMSPIP01.EU.Citrix.com with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2014 15:51:08 +0000 Received: from AMSPEX01CL02.citrite.net ([169.254.7.78]) by AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.8.213]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.004; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 16:51:08 +0100 From: Chris Shepherd To: Lars Kurth , "wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org" , Doug Clark Thread-Topic: [Minutes] March Test WG meeting Thread-Index: Ac8+0dmdOZRpdNq3RgG81xMx1LAk7g== Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:51:07 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.80.118.234] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: AMS1 Cc: "advisory-board@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Wg-test-framework] [Minutes] March Test WG meeting X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7669561264225985742==" Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============7669561264225985742== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_A065F24A55C06245866DD1D0CB83E6A4B63796AMSPEX01CL02citri_" --_000_A065F24A55C06245866DD1D0CB83E6A4B63796AMSPEX01CL02citri_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3D=3D Attendees =3D=3D * Aravind Gopalakrishnan (AMD, voting) * Chris Shepherd (Citrix, voting) * Doug Clark (Citrix, helping Chris with detailed technical tasks) * Ian Jackson (Citrix, community representative, voting) * Don Slutz (Verizon, voting) * Don Dugger (Intel, voting) =3D=3D Agenda =3D=3D * test framework * review and agree hardware requirements for test lab * review options for colo and sys admin support =3D=3D=3D Minutes=3D=3D=3D Test framework We will use osstest in the first instance, but will concurrently explore wa= ys of additionally incorporating XenRT, or at least XenRT test cases, into = it as a longer term aim. Hardware requirements See separate email from Ian to TestWG containing details. DonL suggested we= look at RocketPort 32-port PCI. To get ARM in the lab, Ian proposed that t= he xen developers in Citrix build out semi-custom cases containing their AR= M dev boards and ship these to the colo. Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to reply= with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu's need to be bought to give us= right mix. Hosting requirements for XenRT (Doug) - the hardware specified by Ian could= not run xenrt side-by-side with osstest, xenrt requires more memory and po= ssibly shared storage for ISOs and logs. Our basic premise should be to build out osstest first and add xenrt capabi= lity in a later phase, the incremental cost should be low. However, we deci= ded to buy 32GB RAM infrastructure servers in the first instance to partial= ly future-proof the lab (the hardware we need appears to be well within bud= get). Colo options (DonS): Do we go with someone big like Verizon, or someone smaller and more local? = We want a full colo service incl sys admin to do the routine maintenance, b= ackups etc. Probably the price quoted by a colo provider would include an h= ourly rate for a sys admin DonL: will we have a substantial up-front cost (set up etc)? Yes, and will = drop significantly once into steady-state. If paying the colo provider by t= he hour for sys admin then this can be catered for. Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and small, and = to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG. AOB DonL: how do you use xenrt? Doug: could either tie it to submission gate like osstest, or could set it = up as a self-service test. Aim would be to allow community to test their ow= n patches, exploiting the test inventory. Ian: osstest would allow this, if= a simple web interface added. --_000_A065F24A55C06245866DD1D0CB83E6A4B63796AMSPEX01CL02citri_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=3D=3D Attendees =3D=3D

* Aravind Gopalakrishnan (AMD, voting)
* Chris Shepherd (Citrix, voting)
* Doug Clark (Citrix, helping Chris with detailed technical tasks)
* Ian Jackson (Citrix, community representative, voting)
* Don Slutz (Verizon, voting)
* Don Dugger (Intel, voting)

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=3D=3D Agenda =3D=3D

* test framework <= /o:p>

* review and agree hard= ware requirements for test lab

* review options for co= lo and sys admin support

 

=3D=3D=3D Minutes=3D=3D= =3D

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Test fram= ework

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We will u= se osstest in the first instance, but will concurrently explore ways of add= itionally incorporating XenRT, or at least XenRT test cases, into it as a l= onger term aim.

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Hardware = requirements

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See separ= ate email from Ian to TestWG containing details. DonL suggested we look at = RocketPort 32-port PCI. To get ARM in the lab, Ian proposed that the xen de= velopers in Citrix build out semi-custom cases containing their ARM dev boards and ship these to the colo.

 

Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requiremen= ts to all, all to reply with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu’s= need to be bought to give us right mix.

&nbs= p;

Hosting r= equirements for XenRT (Doug) – the hardware specified by Ian could no= t run xenrt side-by-side with osstest, xenrt requires more memory and possi= bly shared storage for ISOs and logs.

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Our basic= premise should be to build out osstest first and add xenrt capability in a= later phase, the incremental cost should be low. However, we decided to bu= y 32GB RAM infrastructure servers in the first instance to partially future-proof the lab (the hardware we need= appears to be well within budget).

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Colo options (DonS):

 

Do we go with someone big like Verizon, or someone s= maller and more local? We want a full colo service incl sys admin to do the= routine maintenance, backups etc. Probably the price quoted by a colo prov= ider would include an hourly rate for a sys admin

 

DonL: will we have a substantial up-front cost (set = up etc)? Yes, and will drop significantly once into steady-state. If paying= the colo provider by the hour for sys admin then this can be catered for.<= o:p>

 

Action: DonS to continue investigating colo provider= s large and small, and to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG.<= o:p>

 

AOB

 

DonL: how do you use xenrt?

 

Doug: could either tie it to submission gate like os= stest, or could set it up as a self-service test. Aim would be to allow com= munity to test their own patches, exploiting the test inventory. Ian: osste= st would allow this, if a simple web interface added.

 

 

--_000_A065F24A55C06245866DD1D0CB83E6A4B63796AMSPEX01CL02citri_-- --===============7669561264225985742== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework --===============7669561264225985742==-- From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Mar 13 15:51:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:51:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7up-0006px-0P for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:51:27 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7uY-0006oU-E4; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:51:22 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:58625] by server-1.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 27/26-10259-DE3D1235; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:51:09 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Chris.Shepherd@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1394725868!853962!1 X-Originating-IP: [185.25.65.24] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18864 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2014 15:51:08 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (185.25.65.24) by server-10.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Mar 2014 15:51:08 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,648,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="11408935" Received: from unknown (HELO AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.69.60.9]) by AMSPIP01.EU.Citrix.com with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2014 15:51:08 +0000 Received: from AMSPEX01CL02.citrite.net ([169.254.7.78]) by AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.8.213]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.004; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 16:51:08 +0100 From: Chris Shepherd To: Lars Kurth , "wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org" , Doug Clark Thread-Topic: [Minutes] March Test WG meeting Thread-Index: Ac8+0dmdOZRpdNq3RgG81xMx1LAk7g== Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:51:07 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.80.118.234] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: AMS1 Cc: "advisory-board@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Wg-test-framework] [Minutes] March Test WG meeting X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7669561264225985742==" Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============7669561264225985742== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_A065F24A55C06245866DD1D0CB83E6A4B63796AMSPEX01CL02citri_" --_000_A065F24A55C06245866DD1D0CB83E6A4B63796AMSPEX01CL02citri_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3D=3D Attendees =3D=3D * Aravind Gopalakrishnan (AMD, voting) * Chris Shepherd (Citrix, voting) * Doug Clark (Citrix, helping Chris with detailed technical tasks) * Ian Jackson (Citrix, community representative, voting) * Don Slutz (Verizon, voting) * Don Dugger (Intel, voting) =3D=3D Agenda =3D=3D * test framework * review and agree hardware requirements for test lab * review options for colo and sys admin support =3D=3D=3D Minutes=3D=3D=3D Test framework We will use osstest in the first instance, but will concurrently explore wa= ys of additionally incorporating XenRT, or at least XenRT test cases, into = it as a longer term aim. Hardware requirements See separate email from Ian to TestWG containing details. DonL suggested we= look at RocketPort 32-port PCI. To get ARM in the lab, Ian proposed that t= he xen developers in Citrix build out semi-custom cases containing their AR= M dev boards and ship these to the colo. Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to reply= with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu's need to be bought to give us= right mix. Hosting requirements for XenRT (Doug) - the hardware specified by Ian could= not run xenrt side-by-side with osstest, xenrt requires more memory and po= ssibly shared storage for ISOs and logs. Our basic premise should be to build out osstest first and add xenrt capabi= lity in a later phase, the incremental cost should be low. However, we deci= ded to buy 32GB RAM infrastructure servers in the first instance to partial= ly future-proof the lab (the hardware we need appears to be well within bud= get). Colo options (DonS): Do we go with someone big like Verizon, or someone smaller and more local? = We want a full colo service incl sys admin to do the routine maintenance, b= ackups etc. Probably the price quoted by a colo provider would include an h= ourly rate for a sys admin DonL: will we have a substantial up-front cost (set up etc)? Yes, and will = drop significantly once into steady-state. If paying the colo provider by t= he hour for sys admin then this can be catered for. Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and small, and = to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG. AOB DonL: how do you use xenrt? Doug: could either tie it to submission gate like osstest, or could set it = up as a self-service test. Aim would be to allow community to test their ow= n patches, exploiting the test inventory. Ian: osstest would allow this, if= a simple web interface added. --_000_A065F24A55C06245866DD1D0CB83E6A4B63796AMSPEX01CL02citri_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=3D=3D Attendees =3D=3D

* Aravind Gopalakrishnan (AMD, voting)
* Chris Shepherd (Citrix, voting)
* Doug Clark (Citrix, helping Chris with detailed technical tasks)
* Ian Jackson (Citrix, community representative, voting)
* Don Slutz (Verizon, voting)
* Don Dugger (Intel, voting)

&nbs= p;

=3D=3D Agenda =3D=3D

* test framework <= /o:p>

* review and agree hard= ware requirements for test lab

* review options for co= lo and sys admin support

 

=3D=3D=3D Minutes=3D=3D= =3D

&nbs= p;

Test fram= ework

&nbs= p;

We will u= se osstest in the first instance, but will concurrently explore ways of add= itionally incorporating XenRT, or at least XenRT test cases, into it as a l= onger term aim.

&nbs= p;

Hardware = requirements

&nbs= p;

See separ= ate email from Ian to TestWG containing details. DonL suggested we look at = RocketPort 32-port PCI. To get ARM in the lab, Ian proposed that the xen de= velopers in Citrix build out semi-custom cases containing their ARM dev boards and ship these to the colo.

 

Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requiremen= ts to all, all to reply with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu’s= need to be bought to give us right mix.

&nbs= p;

Hosting r= equirements for XenRT (Doug) – the hardware specified by Ian could no= t run xenrt side-by-side with osstest, xenrt requires more memory and possi= bly shared storage for ISOs and logs.

&nbs= p;

Our basic= premise should be to build out osstest first and add xenrt capability in a= later phase, the incremental cost should be low. However, we decided to bu= y 32GB RAM infrastructure servers in the first instance to partially future-proof the lab (the hardware we need= appears to be well within budget).

&nbs= p;

Colo options (DonS):

 

Do we go with someone big like Verizon, or someone s= maller and more local? We want a full colo service incl sys admin to do the= routine maintenance, backups etc. Probably the price quoted by a colo prov= ider would include an hourly rate for a sys admin

 

DonL: will we have a substantial up-front cost (set = up etc)? Yes, and will drop significantly once into steady-state. If paying= the colo provider by the hour for sys admin then this can be catered for.<= o:p>

 

Action: DonS to continue investigating colo provider= s large and small, and to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG.<= o:p>

 

AOB

 

DonL: how do you use xenrt?

 

Doug: could either tie it to submission gate like os= stest, or could set it up as a self-service test. Aim would be to allow com= munity to test their own patches, exploiting the test inventory. Ian: osste= st would allow this, if a simple web interface added.

 

 

--_000_A065F24A55C06245866DD1D0CB83E6A4B63796AMSPEX01CL02citri_-- --===============7669561264225985742== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework --===============7669561264225985742==-- From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Mar 28 13:42:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:42:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WTX3B-0003iG-NY for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:42:25 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WTX3A-0003iB-8x for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:42:24 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:5813] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id D9/54-09853-F3C75335; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:42:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1396014142!5406533!1 X-Originating-IP: [185.25.65.24] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.5 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23348 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2014 13:42:22 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (185.25.65.24) by server-12.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Mar 2014 13:42:22 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,751,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="12686382" Received: from unknown (HELO AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.69.60.9]) by AMSPIP01.EU.Citrix.com with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2014 13:42:22 +0000 Received: from AMSPEX01CL01.citrite.net ([169.254.6.75]) by AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.8.213]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.004; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:42:21 +0100 From: Lars Kurth To: Ian Jackson , "wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org" Thread-Topic: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list Thread-Index: AQHPPtGk3PxCTdglF0uvk6GvEMZ4bpr2mVdA Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:42:21 +0000 Message-ID: References: <21281.53169.873066.548714@mariner.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: <21281.53169.873066.548714@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.16.2.30] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: AMS1 Subject: Re: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Any comments on the spec below from anyone? Lars -----Original Message----- From: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org [mailto:wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org] On Behalf Of Ian Jackson Sent: 13 March 2014 15:33 To: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org Subject: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list (As discussed, I think.) Initial hardware requirements Operational servers * Two identical mid-range servers with (say) 32G of RAM Two machines provided in case one dies for some reason. (Recovery strategy is to have backup of each VM on each server, and to manually bring up the backup VMs.) Full on-site warranty. To be used as: - firewall / NAT gateway (dom0) so each has a global internet connection - VM host for infrastructure VM(s) osstest probably wants about three infrastructure VMs one for pxe/dhcp/etc. one for the database one for osstest itself etc. To be running Debian wheezy with Xen, toolstack xl. Test boxes * 24 low to mid end test servers, in pairs or quads from a variety of manufacturers and a mix of CPU vendors eg 6x Dell (2x R210, 2x R310, 2x something a bit bigger?) 6x HP equivalent 6x equivalent from another big name vendor 6x no-name servers from supplier(s) local to our colo, Minimal warranty Infrastructure * One server to be a serial port concentrator running sympathy (for osstest) and/or xen use machinery (for xenrt) - with a 32-port serial PCI card (eg Rocketport) - ideally two PCI slots - can be very low-end - full warranty If this fail catastrophically we replace it with something similar from a local supplier and restore from backups. Separate from operational server VM hosts to avoid complicating VM hosts with hardware support (eg, to avoid PCI passthrough of serial port concentrators etc.) * One gbit switch for internal network -- _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Mar 28 13:42:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:42:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WTX3B-0003iG-NY for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:42:25 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WTX3A-0003iB-8x for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:42:24 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:5813] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id D9/54-09853-F3C75335; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:42:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1396014142!5406533!1 X-Originating-IP: [185.25.65.24] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.5 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23348 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2014 13:42:22 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (185.25.65.24) by server-12.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Mar 2014 13:42:22 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,751,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="12686382" Received: from unknown (HELO AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.69.60.9]) by AMSPIP01.EU.Citrix.com with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2014 13:42:22 +0000 Received: from AMSPEX01CL01.citrite.net ([169.254.6.75]) by AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.8.213]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.004; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:42:21 +0100 From: Lars Kurth To: Ian Jackson , "wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org" Thread-Topic: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list Thread-Index: AQHPPtGk3PxCTdglF0uvk6GvEMZ4bpr2mVdA Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:42:21 +0000 Message-ID: References: <21281.53169.873066.548714@mariner.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: <21281.53169.873066.548714@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.16.2.30] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: AMS1 Subject: Re: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Any comments on the spec below from anyone? Lars -----Original Message----- From: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org [mailto:wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org] On Behalf Of Ian Jackson Sent: 13 March 2014 15:33 To: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org Subject: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list (As discussed, I think.) Initial hardware requirements Operational servers * Two identical mid-range servers with (say) 32G of RAM Two machines provided in case one dies for some reason. (Recovery strategy is to have backup of each VM on each server, and to manually bring up the backup VMs.) Full on-site warranty. To be used as: - firewall / NAT gateway (dom0) so each has a global internet connection - VM host for infrastructure VM(s) osstest probably wants about three infrastructure VMs one for pxe/dhcp/etc. one for the database one for osstest itself etc. To be running Debian wheezy with Xen, toolstack xl. Test boxes * 24 low to mid end test servers, in pairs or quads from a variety of manufacturers and a mix of CPU vendors eg 6x Dell (2x R210, 2x R310, 2x something a bit bigger?) 6x HP equivalent 6x equivalent from another big name vendor 6x no-name servers from supplier(s) local to our colo, Minimal warranty Infrastructure * One server to be a serial port concentrator running sympathy (for osstest) and/or xen use machinery (for xenrt) - with a 32-port serial PCI card (eg Rocketport) - ideally two PCI slots - can be very low-end - full warranty If this fail catastrophically we replace it with something similar from a local supplier and restore from backups. Separate from operational server VM hosts to avoid complicating VM hosts with hardware support (eg, to avoid PCI passthrough of serial port concentrators etc.) * One gbit switch for internal network -- _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Mar 28 13:46:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:46:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WTX78-0003ip-2B for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:46:30 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WTX76-0003ie-IS; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:46:29 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:12863] by server-10.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id E5/58-04546-33D75335; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:46:27 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1396014386!4806933!1 X-Originating-IP: [185.25.65.24] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 4315 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2014 13:46:26 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (185.25.65.24) by server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Mar 2014 13:46:26 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,751,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="12686518" Received: from unknown (HELO AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.69.60.9]) by AMSPIP01.EU.Citrix.com with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2014 13:46:15 +0000 Received: from AMSPEX01CL01.citrite.net ([169.254.6.75]) by AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.8.213]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.004; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:46:15 +0100 From: Lars Kurth To: Chris Shepherd , "wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org" , Doug Clark Thread-Topic: [Minutes] March Test WG meeting Thread-Index: Ac8+0dmdOZRpdNq3RgG81xMx1LAk7gLubP7w Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:46:14 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.16.2.30] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: AMS1 Cc: "advisory-board@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Wg-test-framework] [Minutes] March Test WG meeting X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3687299671379621630==" Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3687299671379621630== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9167608AMSPEX01CL01citri_" --_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9167608AMSPEX01CL01citri_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, am back from holidays and wanted to follow up on action items. So it seems = the open items are * Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to rep= ly with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu's need to be bought to give = us right mix. Sent out by Ian, but no comments so far * Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and small, an= d to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG. I think we are still waiting for a concrete proposal Lars From: Chris Shepherd Sent: 13 March 2014 15:51 To: Lars Kurth; wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Doug Clark Cc: advisory-board@lists.xenproject.org Subject: [Minutes] March Test WG meeting =3D=3D Attendees =3D=3D * Aravind Gopalakrishnan (AMD, voting) * Chris Shepherd (Citrix, voting) * Doug Clark (Citrix, helping Chris with detailed technical tasks) * Ian Jackson (Citrix, community representative, voting) * Don Slutz (Verizon, voting) * Don Dugger (Intel, voting) =3D=3D Agenda =3D=3D * test framework * review and agree hardware requirements for test lab * review options for colo and sys admin support =3D=3D=3D Minutes=3D=3D=3D Test framework We will use osstest in the first instance, but will concurrently explore wa= ys of additionally incorporating XenRT, or at least XenRT test cases, into = it as a longer term aim. Hardware requirements See separate email from Ian to TestWG containing details. DonL suggested we= look at RocketPort 32-port PCI. To get ARM in the lab, Ian proposed that t= he xen developers in Citrix build out semi-custom cases containing their AR= M dev boards and ship these to the colo. Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to reply= with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu's need to be bought to give us= right mix. Hosting requirements for XenRT (Doug) - the hardware specified by Ian could= not run xenrt side-by-side with osstest, xenrt requires more memory and po= ssibly shared storage for ISOs and logs. Our basic premise should be to build out osstest first and add xenrt capabi= lity in a later phase, the incremental cost should be low. However, we deci= ded to buy 32GB RAM infrastructure servers in the first instance to partial= ly future-proof the lab (the hardware we need appears to be well within bud= get). Colo options (DonS): Do we go with someone big like Verizon, or someone smaller and more local? = We want a full colo service incl sys admin to do the routine maintenance, b= ackups etc. Probably the price quoted by a colo provider would include an h= ourly rate for a sys admin DonL: will we have a substantial up-front cost (set up etc)? Yes, and will = drop significantly once into steady-state. If paying the colo provider by t= he hour for sys admin then this can be catered for. Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and small, and = to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG. AOB DonL: how do you use xenrt? Doug: could either tie it to submission gate like osstest, or could set it = up as a self-service test. Aim would be to allow community to test their ow= n patches, exploiting the test inventory. Ian: osstest would allow this, if= a simple web interface added. --_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9167608AMSPEX01CL01citri_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

am back from holidays = and wanted to follow up on action items. So it seems the open items are

 

* Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirem= ents to all, all to reply with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu’= ;s need to be bought to give us right mix.

Sent out by Ian, but n= o comments so far

 

* Action: DonS = to continue investigating colo providers large and small, and to make propo= sals / recommendations back to the WG.

I think we are still w= aiting for a concrete proposal

 

Lars=

 

 

From:= Chris Shepherd
Sent: 13 March 2014 15:51
To: Lars Kurth; wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Doug Clark Cc: advisory-board@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: [Minutes] March Test WG meeting

 

=3D=3D Attendees =3D=3D

* Aravind Gopalakrishnan (AMD, voting)
* Chris Shepherd (Citrix, voting)
* Doug Clark (Citrix, helping Chris with detailed technical tasks)
* Ian Jackson (Citrix, community representative, voting)
* Don Slutz (Verizon, voting)
* Don Dugger (Intel, voting)

&nbs= p;

=3D=3D Agenda =3D=3D

* test framework <= /o:p>

* review and agree hard= ware requirements for test lab

* review options for co= lo and sys admin support

 

=3D=3D=3D Minutes=3D=3D= =3D

&nbs= p;

Test fram= ework

&nbs= p;

We will u= se osstest in the first instance, but will concurrently explore ways of add= itionally incorporating XenRT, or at least XenRT test cases, into it as a l= onger term aim.

&nbs= p;

Hardware = requirements

&nbs= p;

See separ= ate email from Ian to TestWG containing details. DonL suggested we look at = RocketPort 32-port PCI. To get ARM in the lab, Ian proposed that the xen de= velopers in Citrix build out semi-custom cases containing their ARM dev boards and ship these to the colo.

 

Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requiremen= ts to all, all to reply with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu’s= need to be bought to give us right mix.

&nbs= p;

Hosting r= equirements for XenRT (Doug) – the hardware specified by Ian could no= t run xenrt side-by-side with osstest, xenrt requires more memory and possi= bly shared storage for ISOs and logs.

&nbs= p;

Our basic= premise should be to build out osstest first and add xenrt capability in a= later phase, the incremental cost should be low. However, we decided to bu= y 32GB RAM infrastructure servers in the first instance to partially future-proof the lab (the hardware we need= appears to be well within budget).

&nbs= p;

Colo options (DonS):

 

Do we go with someone big like Verizon, or someone s= maller and more local? We want a full colo service incl sys admin to do the= routine maintenance, backups etc. Probably the price quoted by a colo prov= ider would include an hourly rate for a sys admin

 

DonL: will we have a substantial up-front cost (set = up etc)? Yes, and will drop significantly once into steady-state. If paying= the colo provider by the hour for sys admin then this can be catered for.<= o:p>

 

Action: DonS to continue investigating colo provider= s large and small, and to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG.<= o:p>

 

AOB

 

DonL: how do you use xenrt?

 

Doug: could either tie it to submission gate like os= stest, or could set it up as a self-service test. Aim would be to allow com= munity to test their own patches, exploiting the test inventory. Ian: osste= st would allow this, if a simple web interface added.

 

 

--_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9167608AMSPEX01CL01citri_-- --===============3687299671379621630== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework --===============3687299671379621630==-- From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Mar 28 13:46:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:46:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WTX78-0003ip-2B for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:46:30 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WTX76-0003ie-IS; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:46:29 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:12863] by server-10.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id E5/58-04546-33D75335; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:46:27 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1396014386!4806933!1 X-Originating-IP: [185.25.65.24] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 4315 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2014 13:46:26 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (185.25.65.24) by server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Mar 2014 13:46:26 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,751,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="12686518" Received: from unknown (HELO AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.69.60.9]) by AMSPIP01.EU.Citrix.com with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2014 13:46:15 +0000 Received: from AMSPEX01CL01.citrite.net ([169.254.6.75]) by AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.8.213]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.004; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:46:15 +0100 From: Lars Kurth To: Chris Shepherd , "wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org" , Doug Clark Thread-Topic: [Minutes] March Test WG meeting Thread-Index: Ac8+0dmdOZRpdNq3RgG81xMx1LAk7gLubP7w Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:46:14 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.16.2.30] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: AMS1 Cc: "advisory-board@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Wg-test-framework] [Minutes] March Test WG meeting X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3687299671379621630==" Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============3687299671379621630== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9167608AMSPEX01CL01citri_" --_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9167608AMSPEX01CL01citri_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, am back from holidays and wanted to follow up on action items. So it seems = the open items are * Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to rep= ly with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu's need to be bought to give = us right mix. Sent out by Ian, but no comments so far * Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and small, an= d to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG. I think we are still waiting for a concrete proposal Lars From: Chris Shepherd Sent: 13 March 2014 15:51 To: Lars Kurth; wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Doug Clark Cc: advisory-board@lists.xenproject.org Subject: [Minutes] March Test WG meeting =3D=3D Attendees =3D=3D * Aravind Gopalakrishnan (AMD, voting) * Chris Shepherd (Citrix, voting) * Doug Clark (Citrix, helping Chris with detailed technical tasks) * Ian Jackson (Citrix, community representative, voting) * Don Slutz (Verizon, voting) * Don Dugger (Intel, voting) =3D=3D Agenda =3D=3D * test framework * review and agree hardware requirements for test lab * review options for colo and sys admin support =3D=3D=3D Minutes=3D=3D=3D Test framework We will use osstest in the first instance, but will concurrently explore wa= ys of additionally incorporating XenRT, or at least XenRT test cases, into = it as a longer term aim. Hardware requirements See separate email from Ian to TestWG containing details. DonL suggested we= look at RocketPort 32-port PCI. To get ARM in the lab, Ian proposed that t= he xen developers in Citrix build out semi-custom cases containing their AR= M dev boards and ship these to the colo. Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to reply= with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu's need to be bought to give us= right mix. Hosting requirements for XenRT (Doug) - the hardware specified by Ian could= not run xenrt side-by-side with osstest, xenrt requires more memory and po= ssibly shared storage for ISOs and logs. Our basic premise should be to build out osstest first and add xenrt capabi= lity in a later phase, the incremental cost should be low. However, we deci= ded to buy 32GB RAM infrastructure servers in the first instance to partial= ly future-proof the lab (the hardware we need appears to be well within bud= get). Colo options (DonS): Do we go with someone big like Verizon, or someone smaller and more local? = We want a full colo service incl sys admin to do the routine maintenance, b= ackups etc. Probably the price quoted by a colo provider would include an h= ourly rate for a sys admin DonL: will we have a substantial up-front cost (set up etc)? Yes, and will = drop significantly once into steady-state. If paying the colo provider by t= he hour for sys admin then this can be catered for. Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and small, and = to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG. AOB DonL: how do you use xenrt? Doug: could either tie it to submission gate like osstest, or could set it = up as a self-service test. Aim would be to allow community to test their ow= n patches, exploiting the test inventory. Ian: osstest would allow this, if= a simple web interface added. --_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9167608AMSPEX01CL01citri_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

am back from holidays = and wanted to follow up on action items. So it seems the open items are

 

* Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirem= ents to all, all to reply with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu’= ;s need to be bought to give us right mix.

Sent out by Ian, but n= o comments so far

 

* Action: DonS = to continue investigating colo providers large and small, and to make propo= sals / recommendations back to the WG.

I think we are still w= aiting for a concrete proposal

 

Lars=

 

 

From:= Chris Shepherd
Sent: 13 March 2014 15:51
To: Lars Kurth; wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Doug Clark Cc: advisory-board@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: [Minutes] March Test WG meeting

 

=3D=3D Attendees =3D=3D

* Aravind Gopalakrishnan (AMD, voting)
* Chris Shepherd (Citrix, voting)
* Doug Clark (Citrix, helping Chris with detailed technical tasks)
* Ian Jackson (Citrix, community representative, voting)
* Don Slutz (Verizon, voting)
* Don Dugger (Intel, voting)

&nbs= p;

=3D=3D Agenda =3D=3D

* test framework <= /o:p>

* review and agree hard= ware requirements for test lab

* review options for co= lo and sys admin support

 

=3D=3D=3D Minutes=3D=3D= =3D

&nbs= p;

Test fram= ework

&nbs= p;

We will u= se osstest in the first instance, but will concurrently explore ways of add= itionally incorporating XenRT, or at least XenRT test cases, into it as a l= onger term aim.

&nbs= p;

Hardware = requirements

&nbs= p;

See separ= ate email from Ian to TestWG containing details. DonL suggested we look at = RocketPort 32-port PCI. To get ARM in the lab, Ian proposed that the xen de= velopers in Citrix build out semi-custom cases containing their ARM dev boards and ship these to the colo.

 

Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requiremen= ts to all, all to reply with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu’s= need to be bought to give us right mix.

&nbs= p;

Hosting r= equirements for XenRT (Doug) – the hardware specified by Ian could no= t run xenrt side-by-side with osstest, xenrt requires more memory and possi= bly shared storage for ISOs and logs.

&nbs= p;

Our basic= premise should be to build out osstest first and add xenrt capability in a= later phase, the incremental cost should be low. However, we decided to bu= y 32GB RAM infrastructure servers in the first instance to partially future-proof the lab (the hardware we need= appears to be well within budget).

&nbs= p;

Colo options (DonS):

 

Do we go with someone big like Verizon, or someone s= maller and more local? We want a full colo service incl sys admin to do the= routine maintenance, backups etc. Probably the price quoted by a colo prov= ider would include an hourly rate for a sys admin

 

DonL: will we have a substantial up-front cost (set = up etc)? Yes, and will drop significantly once into steady-state. If paying= the colo provider by the hour for sys admin then this can be catered for.<= o:p>

 

Action: DonS to continue investigating colo provider= s large and small, and to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG.<= o:p>

 

AOB

 

DonL: how do you use xenrt?

 

Doug: could either tie it to submission gate like os= stest, or could set it up as a self-service test. Aim would be to allow com= munity to test their own patches, exploiting the test inventory. Ian: osste= st would allow this, if a simple web interface added.

 

 

--_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9167608AMSPEX01CL01citri_-- --===============3687299671379621630== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework --===============3687299671379621630==-- From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Mar 28 14:28:40 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:28:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WTXlw-0007Gg-5o for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:28:40 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WTXlu-0007GI-Mv for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:28:39 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:47334] by server-6.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id EF/59-19576-41785335; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:28:36 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dslutz@verizon.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396016914!4007641!1 X-Originating-IP: [199.249.25.207] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTk5LjI0OS4yNS4yMDcgPT4gMjk3MjAw\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 4785 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2014 14:28:35 -0000 Received: from omzsmtpe04.verizonbusiness.com (HELO omzsmtpe04.verizonbusiness.com) (199.249.25.207) by server-2.tower-206.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Mar 2014 14:28:35 -0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi01.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.143]) by omzsmtpe04.verizonbusiness.com with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2014 14:27:32 +0000 From: Don Slutz X-VzAPP: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,751,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="706288903" Received: from unknown (HELO don-lt.don.CloudSwitch.com) ([162.47.6.219]) by fldsmtpi01.verizon.com with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2014 14:27:31 +0000 Message-ID: <533586D3.1000504@terremark.com> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 10:27:31 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Kurth References: In-Reply-To: Cc: "advisory-board@lists.xenproject.org" , Doug Clark , Chris Shepherd , "wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Wg-test-framework] [Minutes] March Test WG meeting X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5799903249087282256==" Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5799903249087282256== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000201090100050600050906" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000201090100050600050906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 03/28/14 09:46, Lars Kurth wrote: > > Hi all, > > am back from holidays and wanted to follow up on action items. So it > seems the open items are > > * Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all > to reply with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu's need to be > bought to give us right mix. > > Sent out by Ian, but no comments so far > > * Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and > small, and to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG. > > I think we are still waiting for a concrete proposal > Yes, so that a real cost could be done. I do feel that we have a good enough statement to get a ball park type quote. So far I am still having issues with getting a sales person to respond from both Verizon (Terremark) and CSC. Just some overview data: Boston, MA, USA: *Full Rack and Full Cabinet Colocation* -- Qualified local and national Boston Colocation providers offer open racks and secure cabinets. Full racks and cabinets are typically supplied with redundant 20 or 30amp 110v (208v as an option) along with a 100Mbps or GIGe port. Full rack/cabinet pricing starts at $1250 a month. The State of Virginia (USA) is a hot spot for clients looking for an East Coast presence. Secure half cabinets with 15amp power and 10Mbps start at $500 a month. Full cabinets with 20amp power and 10Mbps start at $800 a month. Additional 20amp and 30amp feeds will add another $250-300 to your monthly bill. *Colocation data centers in the London area:* No price available on the web from http://www.quotecolo.com/london-colocation/. *Where* -- Where can you find server colocation? Server colocation can be found all over the World. Large telecommunications companies such as ATT, Verizon, Equinix and Century Link offer colocation services all over the US and abroad. Local and Regional colocation providers such Hosting.com, Expedient, Xand, IO and QTS offer colocation space all over the US in tier 1 cities like Boston, New York, Atlanta, Miami, Dallas, Denver and Los Angeles. Colocation can also be found in smaller tier 2 cities like Birmingham, Fort Worth, Santa Clara and Tampa but you need to research a little harder! Check out our free white paper on the ten tips to find a colocation vendor. -Don Slutz > Lars > > *From:*Chris Shepherd > *Sent:* 13 March 2014 15:51 > *To:* Lars Kurth; wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Doug Clark > *Cc:* advisory-board@lists.xenproject.org > *Subject:* [Minutes] March Test WG meeting > > == Attendees == > > * Aravind Gopalakrishnan (AMD, voting) > * Chris Shepherd (Citrix, voting) > * Doug Clark (Citrix, helping Chris with detailed technical tasks) > * Ian Jackson (Citrix, community representative, voting) > * Don Slutz (Verizon, voting) > * Don Dugger (Intel, voting) > > == Agenda == > > * test framework > > * review and agree hardware requirements for test lab > > * review options for colo and sys admin support > > === Minutes=== > > Test framework > > We will use osstest in the first instance, but will concurrently > explore ways of additionally incorporating XenRT, or at least XenRT > test cases, into it as a longer term aim. > > Hardware requirements > > See separate email from Ian to TestWG containing details. DonL > suggested we look at RocketPort 32-port PCI. To get ARM in the lab, > Ian proposed that the xen developers in Citrix build out semi-custom > cases containing their ARM dev boards and ship these to the colo. > > Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to > reply with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu's need to be bought > to give us right mix. > > Hosting requirements for XenRT (Doug) -- the hardware specified by Ian > could not run xenrt side-by-side with osstest, xenrt requires more > memory and possibly shared storage for ISOs and logs. > > Our basic premise should be to build out osstest first and add xenrt > capability in a later phase, the incremental cost should be low. > However, we decided to buy 32GB RAM infrastructure servers in the > first instance to partially future-proof the lab (the hardware we need > appears to be well within budget). > > Colo options (DonS): > > Do we go with someone big like Verizon, or someone smaller and more > local? We want a full colo service incl sys admin to do the routine > maintenance, backups etc. Probably the price quoted by a colo provider > would include an hourly rate for a sys admin > > DonL: will we have a substantial up-front cost (set up etc)? Yes, and > will drop significantly once into steady-state. If paying the colo > provider by the hour for sys admin then this can be catered for. > > Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and small, > and to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG. > > AOB > > DonL: how do you use xenrt? > > Doug: could either tie it to submission gate like osstest, or could > set it up as a self-service test. Aim would be to allow community to > test their own patches, exploiting the test inventory. Ian: osstest > would allow this, if a simple web interface added. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wg-test-framework mailing list > Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework --------------000201090100050600050906 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 03/28/14 09:46, Lars Kurth wrote:

Hi all,

 

am back from holidays and wanted to follow up on action items. So it seems the open items are

 

* Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to reply with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu’s need to be bought to give us right mix.

Sent out by Ian, but no comments so far

 

* Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and small, and to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG.

I think we are still waiting for a concrete proposal


Yes, so that a real cost could be done. 

I do feel that we have a good enough statement to get a ball park type quote.

So far I am still having issues with getting a sales person to respond from both
Verizon (Terremark) and CSC.

Just some overview data:

Boston, MA, USA:

Full Rack and Full Cabinet Colocation – Qualified local and national Boston Colocation providers offer open racks and secure cabinets. Full racks and cabinets are typically supplied with redundant 20 or 30amp 110v (208v as an option) along with a 100Mbps or GIGe port. Full rack/cabinet pricing starts at $1250 a month.


The State of Virginia (USA) is a hot spot for clients looking for an East Coast presence.

Secure half cabinets with 15amp power and 10Mbps start at $500 a month. Full cabinets with 20amp power and 10Mbps start at $800 a month. Additional 20amp and 30amp feeds will add another $250-300 to your monthly bill.


Colocation data centers in the London area:

No price available on the web from http://www.quotecolo.com/london-colocation/.


Where – Where can you find server colocation? Server colocation can be found all over the World. Large telecommunications companies such as ATT, Verizon, Equinix and Century Link offer colocation services all over the US and abroad. Local and Regional colocation providers such Hosting.com, Expedient, Xand, IO and QTS offer colocation space all over the US in tier 1 cities like Boston, New York, Atlanta, Miami, Dallas, Denver and Los Angeles. Colocation can also be found in smaller tier 2 cities like Birmingham, Fort Worth, Santa Clara and Tampa but you need to research a little harder! Check out our free white paper on the ten tips to find a colocation vendor.

   -Don Slutz

 

Lars

 

 

From: Chris Shepherd
Sent: 13 March 2014 15:51
To: Lars Kurth; wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Doug Clark
Cc: advisory-board@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: [Minutes] March Test WG meeting

 

== Attendees ==

* Aravind Gopalakrishnan (AMD, voting)
* Chris Shepherd (Citrix, voting)
* Doug Clark (Citrix, helping Chris with detailed technical tasks)
* Ian Jackson (Citrix, community representative, voting)
* Don Slutz (Verizon, voting)
* Don Dugger (Intel, voting)

 

== Agenda ==

* test framework

* review and agree hardware requirements for test lab

* review options for colo and sys admin support

 

=== Minutes===

 

Test framework

 

We will use osstest in the first instance, but will concurrently explore ways of additionally incorporating XenRT, or at least XenRT test cases, into it as a longer term aim.

 

Hardware requirements

 

See separate email from Ian to TestWG containing details. DonL suggested we look at RocketPort 32-port PCI. To get ARM in the lab, Ian proposed that the xen developers in Citrix build out semi-custom cases containing their ARM dev boards and ship these to the colo.

 

Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to reply with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu’s need to be bought to give us right mix.

 

Hosting requirements for XenRT (Doug) – the hardware specified by Ian could not run xenrt side-by-side with osstest, xenrt requires more memory and possibly shared storage for ISOs and logs.

 

Our basic premise should be to build out osstest first and add xenrt capability in a later phase, the incremental cost should be low. However, we decided to buy 32GB RAM infrastructure servers in the first instance to partially future-proof the lab (the hardware we need appears to be well within budget).

 

Colo options (DonS):

 

Do we go with someone big like Verizon, or someone smaller and more local? We want a full colo service incl sys admin to do the routine maintenance, backups etc. Probably the price quoted by a colo provider would include an hourly rate for a sys admin

 

DonL: will we have a substantial up-front cost (set up etc)? Yes, and will drop significantly once into steady-state. If paying the colo provider by the hour for sys admin then this can be catered for.

 

Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and small, and to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG.

 

AOB

 

DonL: how do you use xenrt?

 

Doug: could either tie it to submission gate like osstest, or could set it up as a self-service test. Aim would be to allow community to test their own patches, exploiting the test inventory. Ian: osstest would allow this, if a simple web interface added.

 

 



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So it > seems the open items are > > * Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all > to reply with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu's need to be > bought to give us right mix. > > Sent out by Ian, but no comments so far > > * Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and > small, and to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG. > > I think we are still waiting for a concrete proposal > Yes, so that a real cost could be done. I do feel that we have a good enough statement to get a ball park type quote. So far I am still having issues with getting a sales person to respond from both Verizon (Terremark) and CSC. Just some overview data: Boston, MA, USA: *Full Rack and Full Cabinet Colocation* -- Qualified local and national Boston Colocation providers offer open racks and secure cabinets. Full racks and cabinets are typically supplied with redundant 20 or 30amp 110v (208v as an option) along with a 100Mbps or GIGe port. Full rack/cabinet pricing starts at $1250 a month. The State of Virginia (USA) is a hot spot for clients looking for an East Coast presence. Secure half cabinets with 15amp power and 10Mbps start at $500 a month. Full cabinets with 20amp power and 10Mbps start at $800 a month. Additional 20amp and 30amp feeds will add another $250-300 to your monthly bill. *Colocation data centers in the London area:* No price available on the web from http://www.quotecolo.com/london-colocation/. *Where* -- Where can you find server colocation? Server colocation can be found all over the World. Large telecommunications companies such as ATT, Verizon, Equinix and Century Link offer colocation services all over the US and abroad. Local and Regional colocation providers such Hosting.com, Expedient, Xand, IO and QTS offer colocation space all over the US in tier 1 cities like Boston, New York, Atlanta, Miami, Dallas, Denver and Los Angeles. Colocation can also be found in smaller tier 2 cities like Birmingham, Fort Worth, Santa Clara and Tampa but you need to research a little harder! Check out our free white paper on the ten tips to find a colocation vendor. -Don Slutz > Lars > > *From:*Chris Shepherd > *Sent:* 13 March 2014 15:51 > *To:* Lars Kurth; wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Doug Clark > *Cc:* advisory-board@lists.xenproject.org > *Subject:* [Minutes] March Test WG meeting > > == Attendees == > > * Aravind Gopalakrishnan (AMD, voting) > * Chris Shepherd (Citrix, voting) > * Doug Clark (Citrix, helping Chris with detailed technical tasks) > * Ian Jackson (Citrix, community representative, voting) > * Don Slutz (Verizon, voting) > * Don Dugger (Intel, voting) > > == Agenda == > > * test framework > > * review and agree hardware requirements for test lab > > * review options for colo and sys admin support > > === Minutes=== > > Test framework > > We will use osstest in the first instance, but will concurrently > explore ways of additionally incorporating XenRT, or at least XenRT > test cases, into it as a longer term aim. > > Hardware requirements > > See separate email from Ian to TestWG containing details. DonL > suggested we look at RocketPort 32-port PCI. To get ARM in the lab, > Ian proposed that the xen developers in Citrix build out semi-custom > cases containing their ARM dev boards and ship these to the colo. > > Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to > reply with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu's need to be bought > to give us right mix. > > Hosting requirements for XenRT (Doug) -- the hardware specified by Ian > could not run xenrt side-by-side with osstest, xenrt requires more > memory and possibly shared storage for ISOs and logs. > > Our basic premise should be to build out osstest first and add xenrt > capability in a later phase, the incremental cost should be low. > However, we decided to buy 32GB RAM infrastructure servers in the > first instance to partially future-proof the lab (the hardware we need > appears to be well within budget). > > Colo options (DonS): > > Do we go with someone big like Verizon, or someone smaller and more > local? We want a full colo service incl sys admin to do the routine > maintenance, backups etc. Probably the price quoted by a colo provider > would include an hourly rate for a sys admin > > DonL: will we have a substantial up-front cost (set up etc)? Yes, and > will drop significantly once into steady-state. If paying the colo > provider by the hour for sys admin then this can be catered for. > > Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and small, > and to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG. > > AOB > > DonL: how do you use xenrt? > > Doug: could either tie it to submission gate like osstest, or could > set it up as a self-service test. Aim would be to allow community to > test their own patches, exploiting the test inventory. Ian: osstest > would allow this, if a simple web interface added. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wg-test-framework mailing list > Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org > http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework --------------000201090100050600050906 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 03/28/14 09:46, Lars Kurth wrote:

Hi all,

 

am back from holidays and wanted to follow up on action items. So it seems the open items are

 

* Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to reply with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu’s need to be bought to give us right mix.

Sent out by Ian, but no comments so far

 

* Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and small, and to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG.

I think we are still waiting for a concrete proposal


Yes, so that a real cost could be done. 

I do feel that we have a good enough statement to get a ball park type quote.

So far I am still having issues with getting a sales person to respond from both
Verizon (Terremark) and CSC.

Just some overview data:

Boston, MA, USA:

Full Rack and Full Cabinet Colocation – Qualified local and national Boston Colocation providers offer open racks and secure cabinets. Full racks and cabinets are typically supplied with redundant 20 or 30amp 110v (208v as an option) along with a 100Mbps or GIGe port. Full rack/cabinet pricing starts at $1250 a month.


The State of Virginia (USA) is a hot spot for clients looking for an East Coast presence.

Secure half cabinets with 15amp power and 10Mbps start at $500 a month. Full cabinets with 20amp power and 10Mbps start at $800 a month. Additional 20amp and 30amp feeds will add another $250-300 to your monthly bill.


Colocation data centers in the London area:

No price available on the web from http://www.quotecolo.com/london-colocation/.


Where – Where can you find server colocation? Server colocation can be found all over the World. Large telecommunications companies such as ATT, Verizon, Equinix and Century Link offer colocation services all over the US and abroad. Local and Regional colocation providers such Hosting.com, Expedient, Xand, IO and QTS offer colocation space all over the US in tier 1 cities like Boston, New York, Atlanta, Miami, Dallas, Denver and Los Angeles. Colocation can also be found in smaller tier 2 cities like Birmingham, Fort Worth, Santa Clara and Tampa but you need to research a little harder! Check out our free white paper on the ten tips to find a colocation vendor.

   -Don Slutz

 

Lars

 

 

From: Chris Shepherd
Sent: 13 March 2014 15:51
To: Lars Kurth; wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Doug Clark
Cc: advisory-board@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: [Minutes] March Test WG meeting

 

== Attendees ==

* Aravind Gopalakrishnan (AMD, voting)
* Chris Shepherd (Citrix, voting)
* Doug Clark (Citrix, helping Chris with detailed technical tasks)
* Ian Jackson (Citrix, community representative, voting)
* Don Slutz (Verizon, voting)
* Don Dugger (Intel, voting)

 

== Agenda ==

* test framework

* review and agree hardware requirements for test lab

* review options for colo and sys admin support

 

=== Minutes===

 

Test framework

 

We will use osstest in the first instance, but will concurrently explore ways of additionally incorporating XenRT, or at least XenRT test cases, into it as a longer term aim.

 

Hardware requirements

 

See separate email from Ian to TestWG containing details. DonL suggested we look at RocketPort 32-port PCI. To get ARM in the lab, Ian proposed that the xen developers in Citrix build out semi-custom cases containing their ARM dev boards and ship these to the colo.

 

Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to reply with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu’s need to be bought to give us right mix.

 

Hosting requirements for XenRT (Doug) – the hardware specified by Ian could not run xenrt side-by-side with osstest, xenrt requires more memory and possibly shared storage for ISOs and logs.

 

Our basic premise should be to build out osstest first and add xenrt capability in a later phase, the incremental cost should be low. However, we decided to buy 32GB RAM infrastructure servers in the first instance to partially future-proof the lab (the hardware we need appears to be well within budget).

 

Colo options (DonS):

 

Do we go with someone big like Verizon, or someone smaller and more local? We want a full colo service incl sys admin to do the routine maintenance, backups etc. Probably the price quoted by a colo provider would include an hourly rate for a sys admin

 

DonL: will we have a substantial up-front cost (set up etc)? Yes, and will drop significantly once into steady-state. If paying the colo provider by the hour for sys admin then this can be catered for.

 

Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and small, and to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG.

 

AOB

 

DonL: how do you use xenrt?

 

Doug: could either tie it to submission gate like osstest, or could set it up as a self-service test. Aim would be to allow community to test their own patches, exploiting the test inventory. Ian: osstest would allow this, if a simple web interface added.

 

 



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