From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 13:23:01 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:23:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXVzR-0000sY-RW for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:23:01 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXVzQ-0000sT-Oc for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:23:00 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:55983] by server-1.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id C5/59-11134-338F3435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:22:59 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1396963378!5731871!1 X-Originating-IP: [185.25.65.24] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21845 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 13:22:59 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (185.25.65.24) by server-15.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 13:22:59 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,818,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="13420770" Received: from unknown (HELO AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.69.60.9]) by AMSPIP01.EU.Citrix.com with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2014 13:22:59 +0000 Received: from AMSPEX01CL01.citrite.net ([169.254.6.220]) by AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.8.7]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.004; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 15:22:58 +0200 From: Lars Kurth To: "wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org" Thread-Topic: Thursday's test framework WG meeting Thread-Index: Ac9TLQRMTsLCbFQCTYyn6mOt8twlHg== Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 13:22:58 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.16.2.30] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: AMS1 Subject: [Wg-test-framework] Thursday's test framework WG meeting X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7296511912004608537==" Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============7296511912004608537== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9170DC8AMSPEX01CL01citri_" --_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9170DC8AMSPEX01CL01citri_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I have still been catching up on being away and nearly missed putting toget= her the agenda. I don't have anything concrete, but we do have open actions. * Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to rep= ly with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu's need to be bought to give = us right mix. * Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and small, an= d to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG. So my proposal would be to make as much progress on these during the meetin= g as possible. Please let me know of any other agenda items that you may wa= nt to add. With the CFP for the Developer Summit coming up (May 2nd), I would also lik= e to ask whether you believe it would make sense to submit a "Test WG updat= e talk" for the summit. Obviously the content will pretty much depend on pr= ogress we make between now and August and has to be necessarily vague. Best Regards Lars --_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9170DC8AMSPEX01CL01citri_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

I have still been catching up on being away and near= ly missed putting together the agenda.

 

I don’t have anything concrete, but we do have= open actions.

 

* Action: Ian to = send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to reply with thoughts = on what manufacturers and cpu’s need to be bought to give us right mix.

* <= /i>Action: DonS t= o continue investigating colo providers large and small, and to make proposals / reco= mmendations back to the WG.

So my proposal would be to make as much progress on = these during the meeting as possible. Please let me know of any other agend= a items that you may want to add.

 

With the CFP for the Developer Summit coming up (May= 2nd), I would also like to ask whether you believe it would mak= e sense to submit a “Test WG update talk” for the summit. Obvio= usly the content will pretty much depend on progress we make between now and August and has to be necessarily vague.

 

Best Regards

Lars

--_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9170DC8AMSPEX01CL01citri_-- --===============7296511912004608537== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework --===============7296511912004608537==-- From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 13:23:01 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:23:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXVzR-0000sY-RW for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:23:01 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXVzQ-0000sT-Oc for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:23:00 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:55983] by server-1.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id C5/59-11134-338F3435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:22:59 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1396963378!5731871!1 X-Originating-IP: [185.25.65.24] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21845 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 13:22:59 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (185.25.65.24) by server-15.tower-31.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 13:22:59 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,818,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="13420770" Received: from unknown (HELO AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.69.60.9]) by AMSPIP01.EU.Citrix.com with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2014 13:22:59 +0000 Received: from AMSPEX01CL01.citrite.net ([169.254.6.220]) by AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.8.7]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.004; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 15:22:58 +0200 From: Lars Kurth To: "wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org" Thread-Topic: Thursday's test framework WG meeting Thread-Index: Ac9TLQRMTsLCbFQCTYyn6mOt8twlHg== Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 13:22:58 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.16.2.30] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: AMS1 Subject: [Wg-test-framework] Thursday's test framework WG meeting X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7296511912004608537==" Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============7296511912004608537== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9170DC8AMSPEX01CL01citri_" --_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9170DC8AMSPEX01CL01citri_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I have still been catching up on being away and nearly missed putting toget= her the agenda. I don't have anything concrete, but we do have open actions. * Action: Ian to send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to rep= ly with thoughts on what manufacturers and cpu's need to be bought to give = us right mix. * Action: DonS to continue investigating colo providers large and small, an= d to make proposals / recommendations back to the WG. So my proposal would be to make as much progress on these during the meetin= g as possible. Please let me know of any other agenda items that you may wa= nt to add. With the CFP for the Developer Summit coming up (May 2nd), I would also lik= e to ask whether you believe it would make sense to submit a "Test WG updat= e talk" for the summit. Obviously the content will pretty much depend on pr= ogress we make between now and August and has to be necessarily vague. Best Regards Lars --_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9170DC8AMSPEX01CL01citri_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

I have still been catching up on being away and near= ly missed putting together the agenda.

 

I don’t have anything concrete, but we do have= open actions.

 

* Action: Ian to = send out detailed hardware requirements to all, all to reply with thoughts = on what manufacturers and cpu’s need to be bought to give us right mix.

* <= /i>Action: DonS t= o continue investigating colo providers large and small, and to make proposals / reco= mmendations back to the WG.

So my proposal would be to make as much progress on = these during the meeting as possible. Please let me know of any other agend= a items that you may want to add.

 

With the CFP for the Developer Summit coming up (May= 2nd), I would also like to ask whether you believe it would mak= e sense to submit a “Test WG update talk” for the summit. Obvio= usly the content will pretty much depend on progress we make between now and August and has to be necessarily vague.

 

Best Regards

Lars

--_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9170DC8AMSPEX01CL01citri_-- --===============7296511912004608537== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework --===============7296511912004608537==-- From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 14:21:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:21:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWuE-0005ew-0S for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:21:42 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWuC-0005eK-6y for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:21:40 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:22228] by server-7.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id BD/30-20531-3F504435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:21:39 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Chris.Shepherd@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396966898!3279388!1 X-Originating-IP: [185.25.65.24] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.5 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19342 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 14:21:38 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (185.25.65.24) by server-5.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 14:21:38 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,818,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="13428823" Received: from unknown (HELO AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.69.60.9]) by AMSPIP01.EU.Citrix.com with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2014 14:21:38 +0000 Received: from AMSPEX01CL02.citrite.net ([169.254.7.91]) by AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.8.7]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.004; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 16:21:38 +0200 From: Chris Shepherd To: Ian Jackson , "wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org" Thread-Topic: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list Thread-Index: AQHPPtGkgywgOn3djUqEzy61eL8TyZsH7eVQ Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:21:37 +0000 Message-ID: References: <21281.53169.873066.548714@mariner.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: <21281.53169.873066.548714@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.16.2.168] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: AMS1 Subject: Re: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org As discussed at our last meeting, this looks good to me. Chris -----Original Message----- From: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org [mailto:wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org] On Behalf Of Ian Jackson Sent: 13 March 2014 15:33 To: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org Subject: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list (As discussed, I think.) Initial hardware requirements Operational servers * Two identical mid-range servers with (say) 32G of RAM Two machines provided in case one dies for some reason. (Recovery strategy is to have backup of each VM on each server, and to manually bring up the backup VMs.) Full on-site warranty. To be used as: - firewall / NAT gateway (dom0) so each has a global internet connection - VM host for infrastructure VM(s) osstest probably wants about three infrastructure VMs one for pxe/dhcp/etc. one for the database one for osstest itself etc. To be running Debian wheezy with Xen, toolstack xl. Test boxes * 24 low to mid end test servers, in pairs or quads from a variety of manufacturers and a mix of CPU vendors eg 6x Dell (2x R210, 2x R310, 2x something a bit bigger?) 6x HP equivalent 6x equivalent from another big name vendor 6x no-name servers from supplier(s) local to our colo, Minimal warranty Infrastructure * One server to be a serial port concentrator running sympathy (for osstest) and/or xen use machinery (for xenrt) - with a 32-port serial PCI card (eg Rocketport) - ideally two PCI slots - can be very low-end - full warranty If this fail catastrophically we replace it with something similar from a local supplier and restore from backups. Separate from operational server VM hosts to avoid complicating VM hosts with hardware support (eg, to avoid PCI passthrough of serial port concentrators etc.) * One gbit switch for internal network -- _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Apr 08 14:21:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:21:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWuE-0005ew-0S for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:21:42 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWuC-0005eK-6y for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:21:40 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:22228] by server-7.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id BD/30-20531-3F504435; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:21:39 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Chris.Shepherd@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1396966898!3279388!1 X-Originating-IP: [185.25.65.24] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.5 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19342 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2014 14:21:38 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (185.25.65.24) by server-5.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Apr 2014 14:21:38 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,818,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="13428823" Received: from unknown (HELO AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.69.60.9]) by AMSPIP01.EU.Citrix.com with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2014 14:21:38 +0000 Received: from AMSPEX01CL02.citrite.net ([169.254.7.91]) by AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([169.254.8.7]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.004; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 16:21:38 +0200 From: Chris Shepherd To: Ian Jackson , "wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org" Thread-Topic: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list Thread-Index: AQHPPtGkgywgOn3djUqEzy61eL8TyZsH7eVQ Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:21:37 +0000 Message-ID: References: <21281.53169.873066.548714@mariner.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: <21281.53169.873066.548714@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.16.2.168] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: AMS1 Subject: Re: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org As discussed at our last meeting, this looks good to me. Chris -----Original Message----- From: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org [mailto:wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org] On Behalf Of Ian Jackson Sent: 13 March 2014 15:33 To: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org Subject: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list (As discussed, I think.) Initial hardware requirements Operational servers * Two identical mid-range servers with (say) 32G of RAM Two machines provided in case one dies for some reason. (Recovery strategy is to have backup of each VM on each server, and to manually bring up the backup VMs.) Full on-site warranty. To be used as: - firewall / NAT gateway (dom0) so each has a global internet connection - VM host for infrastructure VM(s) osstest probably wants about three infrastructure VMs one for pxe/dhcp/etc. one for the database one for osstest itself etc. To be running Debian wheezy with Xen, toolstack xl. Test boxes * 24 low to mid end test servers, in pairs or quads from a variety of manufacturers and a mix of CPU vendors eg 6x Dell (2x R210, 2x R310, 2x something a bit bigger?) 6x HP equivalent 6x equivalent from another big name vendor 6x no-name servers from supplier(s) local to our colo, Minimal warranty Infrastructure * One server to be a serial port concentrator running sympathy (for osstest) and/or xen use machinery (for xenrt) - with a 32-port serial PCI card (eg Rocketport) - ideally two PCI slots - can be very low-end - full warranty If this fail catastrophically we replace it with something similar from a local supplier and restore from backups. Separate from operational server VM hosts to avoid complicating VM hosts with hardware support (eg, to avoid PCI passthrough of serial port concentrators etc.) * One gbit switch for internal network -- _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 16 19:12:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 19:12:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaVFq-0003Ef-Ao for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 19:12:18 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaVFo-0003Ea-Qv for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 19:12:17 +0000 Received: from [85.158.137.68:30396] by server-14.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 91/23-30903-016DE435; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 19:12:16 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dslutz@verizon.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1397675533!2357629!1 X-Originating-IP: [199.249.25.207] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTk5LjI0OS4yNS4yMDcgPT4gMjk3MjAw\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 32604 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2014 19:12:15 -0000 Received: from omzsmtpe04.verizonbusiness.com (HELO omzsmtpe04.verizonbusiness.com) (199.249.25.207) by server-8.tower-31.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Apr 2014 19:12:15 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=verizon.com; i=dslutz@verizon.com; q=dns/txt; s=corp; t=1397675535; x=1429211535; h=from:message-id:date:mime-version:to:subject:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aDwRf0lrIXOG1pHJFvoBQhQNgXsDPHQ2fPxYkBX26Y4=; b=VZkE1qSj9M31Wz6xuURY2QaUaaFFLpkP19d5CKOH+pCLGPs5yKC7M1Ss P2EW6RvrA8vCn0T0nmpvFmwI3Kr4JKt3mCnkphwatMSZFL/J//4DvVSPs 089f+eBDYHPKAJE1PqrfOg1sMdQX8+e65vOzJu/fnv9YD0PZSYNYZVvaJ 0=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi02.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.144]) by omzsmtpe04.verizonbusiness.com with ESMTP; 16 Apr 2014 19:12:13 +0000 From: Don Slutz X-VzAPP: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,873,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="698949411" Received: from unknown (HELO don-760.CloudSwitch.com) ([162.47.6.50]) by fldsmtpi02.verizon.com with ESMTP; 16 Apr 2014 19:12:12 +0000 Message-ID: <534ED60C.50605@terremark.com> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 15:12:12 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Shepherd , Ian Jackson , "wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org" References: <21281.53169.873066.548714@mariner.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org As I said, here are some questions on this. 1) Does it make sense to add a: SanDisk X210 SD6SB2M-256G-1022i 2.5" 256GB SATA 6Gb/s MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) as a fast root disk to each mid-range server. Currently about $190 each, for a total of $380. 2) How big should the logging disk(s) be? 3TB disks look to be about $120 each (PH3300U-1I72, 3 Year Limited Warranty) or $200 each (WD3003FZEX, Limited Warranty period (parts): 5 years). 3) How do we handle backups? More disks, usb external disks, or something else? -Don Slutz On 04/08/14 10:21, Chris Shepherd wrote: > As discussed at our last meeting, this looks good to me. > > Chris > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org [mailto:wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org] On Behalf Of Ian Jackson > Sent: 13 March 2014 15:33 > To: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org > Subject: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list > > (As discussed, I think.) > > Initial hardware requirements > > Operational servers > > * Two identical mid-range servers with (say) 32G of RAM > Two machines provided in case one dies for some reason. > (Recovery strategy is to have backup of each VM on each > server, and to manually bring up the backup VMs.) > Full on-site warranty. > > To be used as: > > - firewall / NAT gateway (dom0) > so each has a global internet connection > > - VM host for infrastructure VM(s) > osstest probably wants about three infrastructure VMs > one for pxe/dhcp/etc. > one for the database > one for osstest itself etc. > > To be running Debian wheezy with Xen, toolstack xl. > > Test boxes > > * 24 low to mid end test servers, in pairs or quads > from a variety of manufacturers > and a mix of CPU vendors > eg 6x Dell (2x R210, 2x R310, 2x something a bit bigger?) > 6x HP equivalent > 6x equivalent from another big name vendor > 6x no-name servers from supplier(s) local to our colo, > > Minimal warranty > > Infrastructure > > * One server to be a serial port concentrator running sympathy > (for osstest) and/or xen use machinery (for xenrt) > - with a 32-port serial PCI card (eg Rocketport) > - ideally two PCI slots > - can be very low-end > - full warranty > If this fail catastrophically we replace it with something > similar from a local supplier and restore from backups. > Separate from operational server VM hosts to avoid complicating > VM hosts with hardware support (eg, to avoid PCI passthrough > of serial port concentrators etc.) > > * One gbit switch for internal network > _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Apr 16 19:12:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 19:12:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WaVFq-0003Ef-Ao for archives@lists.xenproject.org; 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charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org As I said, here are some questions on this. 1) Does it make sense to add a: SanDisk X210 SD6SB2M-256G-1022i 2.5" 256GB SATA 6Gb/s MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) as a fast root disk to each mid-range server. Currently about $190 each, for a total of $380. 2) How big should the logging disk(s) be? 3TB disks look to be about $120 each (PH3300U-1I72, 3 Year Limited Warranty) or $200 each (WD3003FZEX, Limited Warranty period (parts): 5 years). 3) How do we handle backups? More disks, usb external disks, or something else? -Don Slutz On 04/08/14 10:21, Chris Shepherd wrote: > As discussed at our last meeting, this looks good to me. > > Chris > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org [mailto:wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org] On Behalf Of Ian Jackson > Sent: 13 March 2014 15:33 > To: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org > Subject: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list > > (As discussed, I think.) > > Initial hardware requirements > > Operational servers > > * Two identical mid-range servers with (say) 32G of RAM > Two machines provided in case one dies for some reason. > (Recovery strategy is to have backup of each VM on each > server, and to manually bring up the backup VMs.) > Full on-site warranty. > > To be used as: > > - firewall / NAT gateway (dom0) > so each has a global internet connection > > - VM host for infrastructure VM(s) > osstest probably wants about three infrastructure VMs > one for pxe/dhcp/etc. > one for the database > one for osstest itself etc. > > To be running Debian wheezy with Xen, toolstack xl. > > Test boxes > > * 24 low to mid end test servers, in pairs or quads > from a variety of manufacturers > and a mix of CPU vendors > eg 6x Dell (2x R210, 2x R310, 2x something a bit bigger?) > 6x HP equivalent > 6x equivalent from another big name vendor > 6x no-name servers from supplier(s) local to our colo, > > Minimal warranty > > Infrastructure > > * One server to be a serial port concentrator running sympathy > (for osstest) and/or xen use machinery (for xenrt) > - with a 32-port serial PCI card (eg Rocketport) > - ideally two PCI slots > - can be very low-end > - full warranty > If this fail catastrophically we replace it with something > similar from a local supplier and restore from backups. > Separate from operational server VM hosts to avoid complicating > VM hosts with hardware support (eg, to avoid PCI passthrough > of serial port concentrators etc.) > > * One gbit switch for internal network > _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 11:42:15 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:42:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wakhr-00030x-Ux for archives@lists.xenproject.org; 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boundary="_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9185D8DAMSPEX01CL01citri_" --_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9185D8DAMSPEX01CL01citri_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry for being slightly late =3D=3D Attendees =3D=3D * Chair: Lars Kurth * Verizon: Don Slutz (Lead) * Community Rep: Ian Jackson * AMD: Aravind Gopalakrishnan * Intel: Donald D Dugger =3D=3D Excused =3D=3D * AWS: Anthony Liguori * CA: Allan Roberto * Citrix: Chris Sheperd * Oracle: Marcos Matsunaga =3D=3D Agenda =3D=3D =3D=3D=3D Review and agree Hardware shopping list =3D=3D * IanJ: posted the list at http://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/wg-tes= t-framework/2014-03/msg00003.html * DonS: had some feedback, will send by mail. Done at : http://lists.xenpro= ject.org/archives/html/wg-test-framework/2014-04/msg00002.html {{Motion}} Approve the list, pending Don's comments Carried =3D=3D=3D Update on COLO options (DonS) =3D=3D=3D * CSC: does not provide support and is thus out of the game * Verizon: Don had difficulties finding a sales rep We had a short discussion for backup options: * DonS: would it be OK to look for someone local * All: agreed. In fact this is the only manageable option * Lars: would there be options in Cambridge * IanJ: Cambridge is excessively expensive for COLOs. London would be signi= ficantly cheaper. Although Ian did not know any vendors providing support. = But he knows individuals who provide support services for COLOs on a contra= ct (hourly per months) Next steps: * {{Action|Don}} Continue investigating Verizon and a local option Fallback (if we don't get anywhere by May) * Lars to talk to Rackspace * Ian to investigate local options * As Ian, Don and Lars are all at the Hackathon, we can should also conside= r whether we can find a solution there =3D=3D=3D Xen Project Developer Summit =3D=3D=3D * Should we submit an update talk? * The agreement was that this would probably boring, unless there was signi= ficant movement on test framework by then. But we could include an update i= n the project update slot * IanJ: maybe a hands-on tutorial for OSSTEST may make more sense {{Action|IanJ }} Consider submitting a tutorial (or finding someone who wou= ld be willing to do so) --_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9185D8DAMSPEX01CL01citri_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sorry for being slightly late

 

=3D=3D Attendees =3D=3D

* Chair: Lars Kurth

* Verizon: Don Slutz (Lead)

* Community Rep: Ian Jackson

* AMD: Aravind Gopalakrishnan

* Intel: Donald D Dugger

 

=3D=3D Excused =3D=3D

* AWS: Anthony Liguori

* CA: Allan Roberto

* Citrix: Chris Sheperd

* Oracle: Marcos Matsunaga

 

=3D=3D Agenda =3D=3D

 

=3D=3D=3D Review and agree Hardware shopping list = =3D=3D

 

* IanJ: posted the list at http://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/wg-test-framework/2014-03/msg0000= 3.html

* DonS: had some feedback, will send by mail. Done a= t : http://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/wg-test-framework/2014-04/msg0000= 2.html

 

{{Motion}} Approve the list, pending Don’s com= ments

Carried

 

=3D=3D=3D Update on COLO options (DonS) =3D=3D=3D

 

* CSC: does not provide support and is thus out of t= he game

* Verizon: Don had difficulties finding a sales rep<= o:p>

 

We had a short discussion for backup options:

* DonS: would it be OK to look for someone local

* All: agreed. In fact this is the only manageable o= ption

* Lars: would there be options in Cambridge

* IanJ: Cambridge is excessively expensive for COLOs= . London would be significantly cheaper. Although Ian did not know any vend= ors providing support. But he knows individuals who provide support service= s for COLOs on a contract (hourly per months)

 

Next steps:

* {{Action|Don}} Continue investigating Verizon and = a local option

 

Fallback (if we don’t get anywhere by May)

* Lars to talk to Rackspace

* Ian to investigate local options

* As Ian, Don and Lars are all at the Hackathon, we = can should also consider whether we can find a solution there

 

=3D=3D=3D Xen Project Developer Summit =3D=3D=3D

 

* Should we submit an update talk?

* The agreement was that this would probably boring,= unless there was significant movement on test framework by then. But we co= uld include an update in the project update slot

* IanJ: maybe a hands-on tutorial for OSSTEST may ma= ke more sense

 

{{Action|IanJ }} Consider submitting a tutorial (or = finding someone who would be willing to do so)

 

 

 

--_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9185D8DAMSPEX01CL01citri_-- --===============0602847290403664888== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework --===============0602847290403664888==-- From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 11:42:15 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:42:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wakhr-00030x-Ux for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:42:15 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Wakhq-0002za-Uh; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:42:15 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.35:48283] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 3E/16-06539-61EBF435; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:42:14 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1397734932!5897953!1 X-Originating-IP: [185.25.65.24] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 20004 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 11:42:12 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (185.25.65.24) by server-6.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 11:42:12 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,878,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="14195866" Received: from unknown (HELO AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.69.60.9]) by AMSPIP01.EU.Citrix.com with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2014 11:42:13 +0000 Received: from AMSPEX01CL01.citrite.net ([169.254.6.55]) by AMSPEX01CL03.citrite.net ([10.69.46.34]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:42:12 +0200 From: Lars Kurth To: "wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org" Thread-Topic: [Minutes] April Test WG meeting Thread-Index: Ac9aL69rR1UWZTpbQ12g7pAL8MjmyQ== Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:42:11 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.68.19.75] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP: AMS1 Cc: "advisory-board@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: [Wg-test-framework] [Minutes] April Test WG meeting X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0602847290403664888==" Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org --===============0602847290403664888== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9185D8DAMSPEX01CL01citri_" --_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9185D8DAMSPEX01CL01citri_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry for being slightly late =3D=3D Attendees =3D=3D * Chair: Lars Kurth * Verizon: Don Slutz (Lead) * Community Rep: Ian Jackson * AMD: Aravind Gopalakrishnan * Intel: Donald D Dugger =3D=3D Excused =3D=3D * AWS: Anthony Liguori * CA: Allan Roberto * Citrix: Chris Sheperd * Oracle: Marcos Matsunaga =3D=3D Agenda =3D=3D =3D=3D=3D Review and agree Hardware shopping list =3D=3D * IanJ: posted the list at http://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/wg-tes= t-framework/2014-03/msg00003.html * DonS: had some feedback, will send by mail. Done at : http://lists.xenpro= ject.org/archives/html/wg-test-framework/2014-04/msg00002.html {{Motion}} Approve the list, pending Don's comments Carried =3D=3D=3D Update on COLO options (DonS) =3D=3D=3D * CSC: does not provide support and is thus out of the game * Verizon: Don had difficulties finding a sales rep We had a short discussion for backup options: * DonS: would it be OK to look for someone local * All: agreed. In fact this is the only manageable option * Lars: would there be options in Cambridge * IanJ: Cambridge is excessively expensive for COLOs. London would be signi= ficantly cheaper. Although Ian did not know any vendors providing support. = But he knows individuals who provide support services for COLOs on a contra= ct (hourly per months) Next steps: * {{Action|Don}} Continue investigating Verizon and a local option Fallback (if we don't get anywhere by May) * Lars to talk to Rackspace * Ian to investigate local options * As Ian, Don and Lars are all at the Hackathon, we can should also conside= r whether we can find a solution there =3D=3D=3D Xen Project Developer Summit =3D=3D=3D * Should we submit an update talk? * The agreement was that this would probably boring, unless there was signi= ficant movement on test framework by then. But we could include an update i= n the project update slot * IanJ: maybe a hands-on tutorial for OSSTEST may make more sense {{Action|IanJ }} Consider submitting a tutorial (or finding someone who wou= ld be willing to do so) --_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9185D8DAMSPEX01CL01citri_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sorry for being slightly late

 

=3D=3D Attendees =3D=3D

* Chair: Lars Kurth

* Verizon: Don Slutz (Lead)

* Community Rep: Ian Jackson

* AMD: Aravind Gopalakrishnan

* Intel: Donald D Dugger

 

=3D=3D Excused =3D=3D

* AWS: Anthony Liguori

* CA: Allan Roberto

* Citrix: Chris Sheperd

* Oracle: Marcos Matsunaga

 

=3D=3D Agenda =3D=3D

 

=3D=3D=3D Review and agree Hardware shopping list = =3D=3D

 

* IanJ: posted the list at http://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/wg-test-framework/2014-03/msg0000= 3.html

* DonS: had some feedback, will send by mail. Done a= t : http://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/wg-test-framework/2014-04/msg0000= 2.html

 

{{Motion}} Approve the list, pending Don’s com= ments

Carried

 

=3D=3D=3D Update on COLO options (DonS) =3D=3D=3D

 

* CSC: does not provide support and is thus out of t= he game

* Verizon: Don had difficulties finding a sales rep<= o:p>

 

We had a short discussion for backup options:

* DonS: would it be OK to look for someone local

* All: agreed. In fact this is the only manageable o= ption

* Lars: would there be options in Cambridge

* IanJ: Cambridge is excessively expensive for COLOs= . London would be significantly cheaper. Although Ian did not know any vend= ors providing support. But he knows individuals who provide support service= s for COLOs on a contract (hourly per months)

 

Next steps:

* {{Action|Don}} Continue investigating Verizon and = a local option

 

Fallback (if we don’t get anywhere by May)

* Lars to talk to Rackspace

* Ian to investigate local options

* As Ian, Don and Lars are all at the Hackathon, we = can should also consider whether we can find a solution there

 

=3D=3D=3D Xen Project Developer Summit =3D=3D=3D

 

* Should we submit an update talk?

* The agreement was that this would probably boring,= unless there was significant movement on test framework by then. But we co= uld include an update in the project update slot

* IanJ: maybe a hands-on tutorial for OSSTEST may ma= ke more sense

 

{{Action|IanJ }} Consider submitting a tutorial (or = finding someone who would be willing to do so)

 

 

 

--_000_B5EC053C78C5D746BD8AC3386F2303C9185D8DAMSPEX01CL01citri_-- --===============0602847290403664888== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework --===============0602847290403664888==-- From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 17:59:32 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:59:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Waqay-0004yM-Tp for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:59:32 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Waqax-0004yE-PW for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:59:32 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:11401] by server-13.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id BC/01-16341-38610535; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:59:31 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Jackson@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1397757568!8175810!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 10841 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 17:59:30 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-12.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 17:59:30 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,880,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="122125169" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2014 17:59:28 +0000 Received: from norwich.cam.xci-test.com (10.80.248.129) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:59:27 -0400 Received: from mariner.cam.xci-test.com ([10.80.2.22] helo=mariner.uk.xensource.com) by norwich.cam.xci-test.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Waqat-0006Iv-Fj; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:59:27 +0000 Received: from iwj by mariner.uk.xensource.com with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Waqas-0002xK-79; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 18:59:26 +0100 From: Ian Jackson MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <21328.5756.910279.174164@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 18:59:24 +0100 To: Don Slutz In-Reply-To: <534ED60C.50605@terremark.com> References: <21281.53169.873066.548714@mariner.uk.xensource.com> <534ED60C.50605@terremark.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.0 under 23.4.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Chris Shepherd , "wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Don Slutz writes ("Re: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list"): > As I said, here are some questions on this. > > 1) Does it make sense to add a: > > SanDisk X210 SD6SB2M-256G-1022i 2.5" 256GB SATA 6Gb/s MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) > > as a fast root disk to each mid-range server. Currently about $190 each, for a total of $380. I would expect everything we care about to either be in buffer cache, or large. (Eg I wouldn't want to put the git repo caches on SSD.) > 2) How big should the logging disk(s) be? > 3TB disks look to be about $120 each (PH3300U-1I72, 3 Year Limited Warranty) or > $200 each (WD3003FZEX, Limited Warranty period (parts): 5 years). As big as feasible is good. > 3) How do we handle backups? More disks, usb external disks, or something else? I'm hoping that our hosting facility can provide us with a hosted storage backup arrangement. Dealing with backup hardware is a PITA. Thanks, Ian. _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework From wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Thu Apr 17 17:59:32 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xenproject.org Delivery-date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:59:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Waqay-0004yM-Tp for archives@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:59:32 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Waqax-0004yE-PW for wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:59:32 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.211:11401] by server-13.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id BC/01-16341-38610535; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:59:31 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Jackson@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-206.messagelabs.com!1397757568!8175810!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAyMDMwMDc=\n X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.11.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 10841 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 17:59:30 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-12.tower-206.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Apr 2014 17:59:30 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,880,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="122125169" Received: from accessns.citrite.net (HELO FTLPEX01CL03.citrite.net) ([10.9.154.239]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2014 17:59:28 +0000 Received: from norwich.cam.xci-test.com (10.80.248.129) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:59:27 -0400 Received: from mariner.cam.xci-test.com ([10.80.2.22] helo=mariner.uk.xensource.com) by norwich.cam.xci-test.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Waqat-0006Iv-Fj; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:59:27 +0000 Received: from iwj by mariner.uk.xensource.com with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Waqas-0002xK-79; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 18:59:26 +0100 From: Ian Jackson MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <21328.5756.910279.174164@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 18:59:24 +0100 To: Don Slutz In-Reply-To: <534ED60C.50605@terremark.com> References: <21281.53169.873066.548714@mariner.uk.xensource.com> <534ED60C.50605@terremark.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.0 under 23.4.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) X-DLP: MIA2 Cc: Chris Shepherd , "wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: Re: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list X-BeenThere: wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen Project Test Framework Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Errors-To: wg-test-framework-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Don Slutz writes ("Re: [Wg-test-framework] Proposed hardware shopping list"): > As I said, here are some questions on this. > > 1) Does it make sense to add a: > > SanDisk X210 SD6SB2M-256G-1022i 2.5" 256GB SATA 6Gb/s MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) > > as a fast root disk to each mid-range server. Currently about $190 each, for a total of $380. I would expect everything we care about to either be in buffer cache, or large. (Eg I wouldn't want to put the git repo caches on SSD.) > 2) How big should the logging disk(s) be? > 3TB disks look to be about $120 each (PH3300U-1I72, 3 Year Limited Warranty) or > $200 each (WD3003FZEX, Limited Warranty period (parts): 5 years). As big as feasible is good. > 3) How do we handle backups? More disks, usb external disks, or something else? I'm hoping that our hosting facility can provide us with a hosted storage backup arrangement. Dealing with backup hardware is a PITA. Thanks, Ian. _______________________________________________ Wg-test-framework mailing list Wg-test-framework@lists.xenproject.org http://lists.xenproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wg-test-framework