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On Wednesday, 13 December 2017 2:05:43 AM AEDT Paul Durrant wrote:
> Moving xen-devel to bcc and addressing win-pv-devel list...
>=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Xen-devel [mailto:xen-devel-bounces@lists.xenproject.org] On Beha=
lf
> > Of Steven Haigh
> > Sent: 12 December 2017 11:33
> > To: xen-devel@lists.xen.org
> > Subject: [Xen-devel] Windows PV drivers and Windows 10 / Windows Server
> > 2016
> >=20
> > Hi all,
> >=20
> > Re the Windows PV drivers - I've tried v8.2.0 on Windows 10, and it
> > required
 me to put Windows into TEST MODE to still load the drivers.
> > Bringing it out of test mode results in the Xen PV drivers being
> > uninstalled.
> >=20
> > I now have to create a Windows Server 2016 DomU and I'm wondering if
> > there is
> > any way without living in TEST MODE for the rest of its life to install
> > the PV
 drivers?
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> That is strange. The 8.2.0 drivers are release signed with an EV token th=
at
> should mean they deploy on Windows 10 without the need for testsigning
> mode. It's possible Microsoft have changed something in recent Windows
> 10... which version of Windows 10 are you using? (Also I assume you
> downloaded drivers from https://xenbits.xen.org/pvdrivers/win/8.2.0/). I
> just double checked xenbus.sys and xenbus.cat and they are certainly both
> signed with the correct certificate (Linux Foundation SHA256) and properly
> time-stamped. Could you verify those files in your copy of the tarball?
=20
Thanks Paul,

I did actually just try installing the drivers on Windows Server 2016 - and=
=20
was surprised that they installed without an issue.

I did get the 8.2.0 drivers when we were trying Windows 10 - however work h=
as=20
requested I replace the Win10 VM with WS2016....

The install was from an ISO "Win10_1703_English_x64.iso" - and then upgrade=
d=20
to the latest release via Windows Update.

I turned on TEST SIGNING mode, rebooted Windows, installed the 8.2.0 driver=
s,=20
turned off TEST SIGNING mode and rebooted. Windows 10 then said it was=20
recovering from a problem and once it was completed, the PV drivers were=20
nowhere to be found.

I do have a backup of the LV I used for it, but I'm not sure I can easily=20
extract further information from it...

=2D-=20
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On Wednesday, 13 December 2017 2:20:54 AM AEDT Paul Durrant wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steven Haigh [mailto:netwiz@crc.id.au]
> > Sent: 12 December 2017 15:12
> > To: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
> > Cc: win-pv-devel@lists.xenproject.org
> > Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Windows PV drivers and Windows 10 / Windows
> > Server 2016
> >=20
> > On Wednesday, 13 December 2017 2:05:43 AM AEDT Paul Durrant wrote:
> >=20
> > > Moving xen-devel to bcc and addressing win-pv-devel list...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Xen-devel [mailto:xen-devel-bounces@lists.xenproject.org] On
> >=20
> > Behalf
> >=20
> > > > Of Steven Haigh
> > > > Sent: 12 December 2017 11:33
> > > > To: xen-devel@lists.xen.org
> > > > Subject: [Xen-devel] Windows PV drivers and Windows 10 / Windows
> >=20
> > Server
> >=20
> > > > 2016
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Re the Windows PV drivers - I've tried v8.2.0 on Windows 10, and it
> > > > required
> > =20
> >  me to put Windows into TEST MODE to still load the drivers.
> > =20
> > > > Bringing it out of test mode results in the Xen PV drivers being
> > > > uninstalled.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I now have to create a Windows Server 2016 DomU and I'm wondering if
> > > > there is
> > > > any way without living in TEST MODE for the rest of its life to
> > > > install
> > > > the PV
> > =20
> >  drivers?
> > =20
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That is strange. The 8.2.0 drivers are release signed with an EV token
> > > that
 should mean they deploy on Windows 10 without the need for
> > > testsigning mode. It's possible Microsoft have changed something in
> > > recent Windows 10... which version of Windows 10 are you using? (Also=
 I
> > > assume you downloaded drivers from
> > > https://xenbits.xen.org/pvdrivers/win/8.2.0/). I just double checked
> > > xenbus.sys and xenbus.cat and they are certainly both signed with the
> > > correct certificate (Linux Foundation SHA256) and properly
> > > time-stamped. Could you verify those files in your copy of the tarbal=
l?>=20
> >=20
> > Thanks Paul,
> >=20
> > I did actually just try installing the drivers on Windows Server 2016 -
> > and
 was surprised that they installed without an issue.
> >=20
> > I did get the 8.2.0 drivers when we were trying Windows 10 - however wo=
rk
> > has
> > requested I replace the Win10 VM with WS2016....
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> Did you somehow manage to get a copy of the drivers before they were rele=
ase
> signed? The tarballs *should* be dated 28th Feb 2017.
=20
>=20
> > The install was from an ISO "Win10_1703_English_x64.iso" - and then
> > upgraded
> > to the latest release via Windows Update.
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> Ok. I've certainly let VMs go through that cycle and have not seen a
> problem.
=20
>=20
> > I turned on TEST SIGNING mode, rebooted Windows, installed the 8.2.0
> > drivers,
> > turned off TEST SIGNING mode and rebooted. Windows 10 then said it was
> > recovering from a problem and once it was completed, the PV drivers were
> > nowhere to be found.
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> Maybe Windows cleans up any driver installed whilst testsigning was on, e=
ven
> if the driver was signed? Anyway, if the drivers are properly signed then
> they should install cleanly without using testsigning mode. If you get so=
me
> sort of warning at that stage then the log in setupapi.dev.log (in
> c:\windows\inf) can sometimes be enlightening as to the reason.

At this point in time, I'm almost willing to put it down to Windows 10 bein=
g=20
Windows.

As I mentioned, things worked perfectly on Windows Server 2016 - no untrust=
ed=20
driver installation prompts or other issues. I did get the red UNTRUSTED=20
DRIVER bit on Windows 10 - and install failed the first time around until i=
n=20
the test signing mode. Maybe a certain update level needs to be reached bef=
ore=20
it likes the PV signed drivers?

Now Windows Server 2016 is stuck at installing a Windows Defender update -=
=20
which I think is also just Windows being Windows :\

=2D-=20
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Subject: Re: [win-pv-devel] [Xen-devel] Windows PV drivers and Windows 10 /
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Hi.

> While my response may be inappropriate, all
> I can think is ffffuuuuuuuu (in teen rhetoric)! You have no idea how lo=
ng I=E2=80=99ve been beating my head on this very issue. I have several W=
indows VMs and 90% of the time I am stuck rebooting and running CLI Tools=
 that report no errors just=20

I absolutely share your feelings, welcome in the club! :(


to get it to come up again, right after Windows updates run. I have had
several BSODs that that blame it on the Xen drivers. The amount of time
wasted has been depressing at best. I=E2=80=99ve never found a solution o=
ther
than pointless actions which work but have no rationale as to why they
work.
>=20
> I know Steven well enough that if he can=E2=80=99t figure it out, there=
=E2=80=99s something to be concerned with.=20
>=20
> I=E2=80=99ll gladly share what I can on this thread.=20
>=20
>=20
> Thanks,
> Steffan Cline
> steffan@hldns.com
> 602-793-0014
>=20
>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 11:06 PM, Steven Haigh <netwiz@crc.id.au> wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, 13 December 2017 2:20:54 AM AEDT Paul Durrant wrote:
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Steven Haigh [mailto:netwiz@crc.id.au]
>>>> Sent: 12 December 2017 15:12
>>>> To: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
>>>> Cc: win-pv-devel@lists.xenproject.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Windows PV drivers and Windows 10 / Windows=

>>>> Server 2016
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, 13 December 2017 2:05:43 AM AEDT Paul Durrant wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Moving xen-devel to bcc and addressing win-pv-devel list...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Xen-devel [mailto:xen-devel-bounces@lists.xenproject.org] On=

>>>>
>>>> Behalf
>>>>
>>>>>> Of Steven Haigh
>>>>>> Sent: 12 December 2017 11:33
>>>>>> To: xen-devel@lists.xen.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Xen-devel] Windows PV drivers and Windows 10 / Windows
>>>>
>>>> Server
>>>>
>>>>>> 2016
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Re the Windows PV drivers - I've tried v8.2.0 on Windows 10, and i=
t
>>>>>> required
>>>>
>>>> me to put Windows into TEST MODE to still load the drivers.
>>>>
>>>>>> Bringing it out of test mode results in the Xen PV drivers being
>>>>>> uninstalled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I now have to create a Windows Server 2016 DomU and I'm wondering =
if
>>>>>> there is
>>>>>> any way without living in TEST MODE for the rest of its life to
>>>>>> install
>>>>>> the PV
>>>>
>>>> drivers?
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That is strange. The 8.2.0 drivers are release signed with an EV to=
ken
>>>>> that
>> should mean they deploy on Windows 10 without the need for
>>>>> testsigning mode. It's possible Microsoft have changed something in=

>>>>> recent Windows 10... which version of Windows 10 are you using? (Al=
so I
>>>>> assume you downloaded drivers from
>>>>> https://xenbits.xen.org/pvdrivers/win/8.2.0/). I just double checke=
d
>>>>> xenbus.sys and xenbus.cat and they are certainly both signed with t=
he
>>>>> correct certificate (Linux Foundation SHA256) and properly
>>>>> time-stamped. Could you verify those files in your copy of the tarb=
all?>=20
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Paul,
>>>>
>>>> I did actually just try installing the drivers on Windows Server 201=
6 -
>>>> and
>> was surprised that they installed without an issue.
>>>>
>>>> I did get the 8.2.0 drivers when we were trying Windows 10 - however=
 work
>>>> has
>>>> requested I replace the Win10 VM with WS2016....
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you somehow manage to get a copy of the drivers before they were =
release
>>> signed? The tarballs *should* be dated 28th Feb 2017.
>>
>>>
>>>> The install was from an ISO "Win10_1703_English_x64.iso" - and then
>>>> upgraded
>>>> to the latest release via Windows Update.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok. I've certainly let VMs go through that cycle and have not seen a
>>> problem.
>>
>>>
>>>> I turned on TEST SIGNING mode, rebooted Windows, installed the 8.2.0=

>>>> drivers,
>>>> turned off TEST SIGNING mode and rebooted. Windows 10 then said it w=
as
>>>> recovering from a problem and once it was completed, the PV drivers =
were
>>>> nowhere to be found.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe Windows cleans up any driver installed whilst testsigning was o=
n, even
>>> if the driver was signed? Anyway, if the drivers are properly signed =
then
>>> they should install cleanly without using testsigning mode. If you ge=
t some
>>> sort of warning at that stage then the log in setupapi.dev.log (in
>>> c:\windows\inf) can sometimes be enlightening as to the reason.
>>
>> At this point in time, I'm almost willing to put it down to Windows 10=
 being=20
>> Windows.
>>
>> As I mentioned, things worked perfectly on Windows Server 2016 - no un=
trusted=20
>> driver installation prompts or other issues. I did get the red UNTRUST=
ED=20
>> DRIVER bit on Windows 10 - and install failed the first time around un=
til in=20
>> the test signing mode. Maybe a certain update level needs to be reache=
d before=20
>> it likes the PV signed drivers?
>>
>> Now Windows Server 2016 is stuck at installing a Windows Defender upda=
te -=20
>> which I think is also just Windows being Windows :\
>>
>> --=20
>> Steven Haigh
>>
>> =F0=9F=93=A7 netwiz@crc.id.au       =F0=9F=92=BB http://www.crc.id.au
>> =F0=9F=93=9E +61 (3) 9001 6090    =F0=9F=93=B1 0412 935 897
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