From xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Thu Mar 29 12:20:56 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:20:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDELW-0000it-7A; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:20:54 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <10917318lyf@gmail.com>) id 1S8k48-0001b9-IA for xci-devel@lists.xen.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 03:12:24 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:50533] by server-3.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id D6/9A-23274-711046F4; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 03:12:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: 10917318lyf@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1331953942!917302!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.220.173] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.1 required=7.0 tests=FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP, spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.5.7; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6947 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2012 03:12:23 -0000 Received: from mail-vx0-f173.google.com (HELO mail-vx0-f173.google.com) (209.85.220.173) by server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Mar 2012 03:12:23 -0000 Received: by vcbfl11 with SMTP id fl11so6958088vcb.32 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 20:12:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uRQ8wXBQevUDJ7cdtmwDH10fCZgWTnHNOUx1tBtm6Jc=; b=TymiJ1L72SYd+9NT1w/0mbxsm8wCE+ET3lmRoMaZSKQSyZ0OHXXq72p9cTGUquqkY6 F/dWbtBJ7Ea8dDEJ8ePCiR+CdBv5LUdBwe7PRlZntoBfMGZGD9RO1osKxfrf67yWgfV2 8nCysi+76Ad4LAECuVtzjG7hw+iiLenISslw8nGBwZH7x6lBX9w7tOYhVxIgffsX9Zre ePzqvOHy+vfS3tcxDC+cFn8sfpbIEMfsV+WWAdZ3oacim2gmH3jn98GPrQuoLx2XAl0D AfLe9RBw9eWBDMHinp4clEvkvNDEaIH7RpXzD38FkpK4n1O1YVhuRNv/MoaOzMSGwmNL /cBw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.240.232 with SMTP id wd8mr2374143vdc.96.1331953941859; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 20:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.153.132 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 20:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:12:21 +0800 Message-ID: From: =?GB2312?B?wsDSu7fy?= <10917318lyf@gmail.com> To: xci-devel@lists.xen.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:20:52 +0000 Subject: [Xci-devel] The problem about the stubdom X-BeenThere: xci-devel@lists.xen.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8947862397992005209==" Sender: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org --===============8947862397992005209== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cfd048fcf4404bb67b181 --20cf307cfd048fcf4404bb67b181 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi, I installed the xen 4.1 in my ubuntu 11.10 , and follow the guide http://www.beyondlinux.com/2011/11/02/install-xen-4-1-and-setup-your-cloud-os-on-ubuntu-11-10/. After installing the xen, how should I install and run the stubdom? --20cf307cfd048fcf4404bb67b181 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, I installed the xen 4.1 in my ubuntu 11.10 , and follow the guide http://www.beyondlinux.com/2011/11/02/install-xe= n-4-1-and-setup-your-cloud-os-on-ubuntu-11-10/. After installing the xe= n,=A0 how should I install and run the stubdom?
--20cf307cfd048fcf4404bb67b181-- --===============8947862397992005209== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Xci-devel mailing list Xci-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xci-devel --===============8947862397992005209==-- From xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Thu Mar 29 12:20:56 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:20:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDELW-0000it-7A; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:20:54 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <10917318lyf@gmail.com>) id 1S8k48-0001b9-IA for xci-devel@lists.xen.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 03:12:24 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:50533] by server-3.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id D6/9A-23274-711046F4; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 03:12:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: 10917318lyf@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1331953942!917302!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.220.173] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.1 required=7.0 tests=FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP, spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.5.7; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6947 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2012 03:12:23 -0000 Received: from mail-vx0-f173.google.com (HELO mail-vx0-f173.google.com) (209.85.220.173) by server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Mar 2012 03:12:23 -0000 Received: by vcbfl11 with SMTP id fl11so6958088vcb.32 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 20:12:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uRQ8wXBQevUDJ7cdtmwDH10fCZgWTnHNOUx1tBtm6Jc=; b=TymiJ1L72SYd+9NT1w/0mbxsm8wCE+ET3lmRoMaZSKQSyZ0OHXXq72p9cTGUquqkY6 F/dWbtBJ7Ea8dDEJ8ePCiR+CdBv5LUdBwe7PRlZntoBfMGZGD9RO1osKxfrf67yWgfV2 8nCysi+76Ad4LAECuVtzjG7hw+iiLenISslw8nGBwZH7x6lBX9w7tOYhVxIgffsX9Zre ePzqvOHy+vfS3tcxDC+cFn8sfpbIEMfsV+WWAdZ3oacim2gmH3jn98GPrQuoLx2XAl0D AfLe9RBw9eWBDMHinp4clEvkvNDEaIH7RpXzD38FkpK4n1O1YVhuRNv/MoaOzMSGwmNL /cBw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.240.232 with SMTP id wd8mr2374143vdc.96.1331953941859; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 20:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.153.132 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 20:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:12:21 +0800 Message-ID: From: =?GB2312?B?wsDSu7fy?= <10917318lyf@gmail.com> To: xci-devel@lists.xen.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:20:52 +0000 Subject: [Xci-devel] The problem about the stubdom X-BeenThere: xci-devel@lists.xen.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8947862397992005209==" Sender: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org --===============8947862397992005209== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cfd048fcf4404bb67b181 --20cf307cfd048fcf4404bb67b181 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi, I installed the xen 4.1 in my ubuntu 11.10 , and follow the guide http://www.beyondlinux.com/2011/11/02/install-xen-4-1-and-setup-your-cloud-os-on-ubuntu-11-10/. After installing the xen, how should I install and run the stubdom? --20cf307cfd048fcf4404bb67b181 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, I installed the xen 4.1 in my ubuntu 11.10 , and follow the guide http://www.beyondlinux.com/2011/11/02/install-xe= n-4-1-and-setup-your-cloud-os-on-ubuntu-11-10/. After installing the xe= n,=A0 how should I install and run the stubdom?
--20cf307cfd048fcf4404bb67b181-- --===============8947862397992005209== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Xci-devel mailing list Xci-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xci-devel --===============8947862397992005209==-- From xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Thu Mar 29 12:45:14 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:45:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDEj2-0000zG-Ql; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:45:12 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDEif-0000xH-4K for xci-devel@lists.xen.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:44:49 +0000 Received: from [85.158.138.51:41364] by server-2.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 87/51-15460-049547F4; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:44:48 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1333025087!19790069!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.214.45] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Version: 6.5.7; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 24027 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2012 12:44:47 -0000 Received: from mail-bk0-f45.google.com (HELO mail-bk0-f45.google.com) (209.85.214.45) by server-8.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Mar 2012 12:44:47 -0000 Received: by bkcjg9 with SMTP id jg9so2247075bkc.32 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:44:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=57fp7pBcgtCP2pWC3XjXLeYTiQuWIrDEVb1VT83niyU=; b=Sc16S4/PG53la3JDBh0nXYALAHIV2xLViXB1tOKQmWkLaY8PSWV5YaRThJQkimx3Kq VJnXLaL4W6euXGcjKLVv8n7nBJtBUBFdKG9S2S3E/s0EXeieAI0zq6SHHPax6C2Pklzx pzSDDHtROmtGAaXvC1/AccomGz2p6PCTclfd3jFmeYTZr7o9vJPwBLncji070Fnsrjq+ Nbcg31TwiqBL3/1Vn+4TAwJCXWBqV8M8aLppsGbUgy8mHOHFxqR/VDyGPXpOWgY0LyQv +pM50o/HXy1i4HMZcnalq2CXznRD/KJllcC0HLmRRMRr6dwsWzEHhYTTRPGPVnj5W257 EY1w== Received: by 10.204.128.65 with SMTP id j1mr13540823bks.74.1333025087264; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] ([176.251.82.166]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f5sm13464952bke.9.2012.03.29.05.44.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F74593B.9000003@xen.org> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:44:43 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-devel@lists.xen.org, xci-devel@lists.xen.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:45:11 +0000 Subject: [Xci-devel] Archiving XCI : Request for an Archivation Review for the XCI project X-BeenThere: xci-devel@lists.xen.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Hi everybody, the XCI project appears to have been dormant for a while and there is no project lead for XCI today. In line with Xen governance (see phttp://www.xen.org/projects/governance.html), I would like to first get community views on the health of the project and then schedule an archivation review. Let me quote from the process: "The review is essentially a pitch why the project should be archived. The purpose of the review is not necessarily to archive a project, but also to provide a last opportunity for interested parties in the Xen.org community to save the project and step up. The Xen.org community manager will support efforts to save the project, should community members want to step up. There is the special case that a project has been completed: in this case the normal situation would be for the project lead to make the case, why this is so." Right now, the project shows a number of issues: a) There is little or no activity b) There is no project lead c) There is no mentor for the project d) Maybe there is a case, that the project has actually been completed The first step of addressing these issues, would be to find a mentor and new project lead for the XCI project. This could be a vendor expressing interest in leading the project, who would ultimately provide the project lead. The project lead could also be an individual. My suggestion is to first have an open discussion about the issues and see if somebody is willing to step up. If so, I will work with the vendor or individual who steps up. Failing this, we will schedule an archivation review. My suggestion is, to allow 2 weeks for discussion. In other words, I will collate the input that I have received by April 12th. We will then schedule the actual review. We have not had archivation reviews in the past, but I believe we should run this as a semi-public meeting. I.e. interested parties approach me and will be invited to the meeting. Best Regards Lars _______________________________________________ Xci-devel mailing list Xci-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xci-devel From xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Thu Mar 29 12:45:14 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:45:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDEj2-0000zG-Ql; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:45:12 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.39]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDEif-0000xH-4K for xci-devel@lists.xen.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:44:49 +0000 Received: from [85.158.138.51:41364] by server-2.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 87/51-15460-049547F4; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:44:48 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1333025087!19790069!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.214.45] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Version: 6.5.7; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 24027 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2012 12:44:47 -0000 Received: from mail-bk0-f45.google.com (HELO mail-bk0-f45.google.com) (209.85.214.45) by server-8.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Mar 2012 12:44:47 -0000 Received: by bkcjg9 with SMTP id jg9so2247075bkc.32 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:44:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=57fp7pBcgtCP2pWC3XjXLeYTiQuWIrDEVb1VT83niyU=; b=Sc16S4/PG53la3JDBh0nXYALAHIV2xLViXB1tOKQmWkLaY8PSWV5YaRThJQkimx3Kq VJnXLaL4W6euXGcjKLVv8n7nBJtBUBFdKG9S2S3E/s0EXeieAI0zq6SHHPax6C2Pklzx pzSDDHtROmtGAaXvC1/AccomGz2p6PCTclfd3jFmeYTZr7o9vJPwBLncji070Fnsrjq+ Nbcg31TwiqBL3/1Vn+4TAwJCXWBqV8M8aLppsGbUgy8mHOHFxqR/VDyGPXpOWgY0LyQv +pM50o/HXy1i4HMZcnalq2CXznRD/KJllcC0HLmRRMRr6dwsWzEHhYTTRPGPVnj5W257 EY1w== Received: by 10.204.128.65 with SMTP id j1mr13540823bks.74.1333025087264; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] ([176.251.82.166]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f5sm13464952bke.9.2012.03.29.05.44.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F74593B.9000003@xen.org> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:44:43 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-devel@lists.xen.org, xci-devel@lists.xen.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:45:11 +0000 Subject: [Xci-devel] Archiving XCI : Request for an Archivation Review for the XCI project X-BeenThere: xci-devel@lists.xen.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Hi everybody, the XCI project appears to have been dormant for a while and there is no project lead for XCI today. In line with Xen governance (see phttp://www.xen.org/projects/governance.html), I would like to first get community views on the health of the project and then schedule an archivation review. Let me quote from the process: "The review is essentially a pitch why the project should be archived. The purpose of the review is not necessarily to archive a project, but also to provide a last opportunity for interested parties in the Xen.org community to save the project and step up. The Xen.org community manager will support efforts to save the project, should community members want to step up. There is the special case that a project has been completed: in this case the normal situation would be for the project lead to make the case, why this is so." Right now, the project shows a number of issues: a) There is little or no activity b) There is no project lead c) There is no mentor for the project d) Maybe there is a case, that the project has actually been completed The first step of addressing these issues, would be to find a mentor and new project lead for the XCI project. This could be a vendor expressing interest in leading the project, who would ultimately provide the project lead. The project lead could also be an individual. My suggestion is to first have an open discussion about the issues and see if somebody is willing to step up. If so, I will work with the vendor or individual who steps up. Failing this, we will schedule an archivation review. My suggestion is, to allow 2 weeks for discussion. In other words, I will collate the input that I have received by April 12th. We will then schedule the actual review. We have not had archivation reviews in the past, but I believe we should run this as a semi-public meeting. I.e. interested parties approach me and will be invited to the meeting. Best Regards Lars _______________________________________________ Xci-devel mailing list Xci-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xci-devel From xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Fri Mar 30 01:51:08 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 01:51:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDQzb-0005Lo-87; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 01:51:07 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDQzZ-0005Lf-5s for xci-devel@lists.xen.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 01:51:05 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.99:51843] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id C6/E9-20925-881157F4; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 01:51:04 +0000 X-Env-Sender: andreww591@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1333072262!15147645!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.210.173] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.8 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.5.7; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11916 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2012 01:51:03 -0000 Received: from mail-iy0-f173.google.com (HELO mail-iy0-f173.google.com) (209.85.210.173) by server-10.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Mar 2012 01:51:03 -0000 Received: by iafj26 with SMTP id j26so299332iaf.32 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:51:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=d0X26b/EN4GHgdMNGot3MajyvozQDzAMt22tGKTiZ6U=; b=yUUnqBZV7MuMo5e2LdcpVOJqgWvh/xTsyB08mkPpFy/DEvee6UuFVe7YAhMbgLF4Mk zEGae+yRnR0j4WgVhswppPvgi0URCNgohX4f7R9rm2xStfrMTH73YYRyiYcOryY4WE52 3eBPVwY9A8uuKsmPcjJ5WUvlVKlwfC56auUt0T2tTLB7g4IUZfLtVSELUPH8dcTxWaH8 Bb52eHbiJ8mpablc6HqhaUiQDgpgj1soNnY8Cr1AgzrotZ/DO3vNg9j9TrpiOm/yZr/a 6Z8+JwIQVQThPHvXJgHItIxVX9YTH60xvC+FgVGrHB4cDnLE5qbToDCGls9j/oVLOJ7W UOvg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.126.68 with SMTP id gv4mr181888icc.30.1333072262177; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.133.201 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:51:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F74593B.9000003@xen.org> References: <4F74593B.9000003@xen.org> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:51:02 -0600 Message-ID: From: Andrew Warkentin To: xen-devel@lists.xen.org Cc: xci-devel@lists.xen.org Subject: Re: [Xci-devel] [Xen-devel] Archiving XCI : Request for an Archivation Review for the XCI project X-BeenThere: xci-devel@lists.xen.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org On 3/29/12, Lars Kurth wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > the XCI project appears to have been dormant for a while and there is no > project lead for XCI today. In line with Xen governance (see > phttp://www.xen.org/projects/governance.html), I would like to first get > community views on the health of the project and then schedule an > archivation review. > > Let me quote from the process: "The review is essentially a pitch why > the project should be archived. The purpose of the review is not > necessarily to archive a project, but also to provide a last opportunity > for interested parties in the Xen.org community to save the project and > step up. The Xen.org community manager will support efforts to save the > project, should community members want to step up. There is the special > case that a project has been completed: in this case the normal > situation would be for the project lead to make the case, why this is so." > > Right now, the project shows a number of issues: > a) There is little or no activity > b) There is no project lead > c) There is no mentor for the project > d) Maybe there is a case, that the project has actually been completed > > The first step of addressing these issues, would be to find a mentor and > new project lead for the XCI project. This could be a vendor expressing > interest in leading the project, who would ultimately provide the > project lead. The project lead could also be an individual. My > suggestion is to first have an open discussion about the issues and see > if somebody is willing to step up. If so, I will work with the vendor or > individual who steps up. Failing this, we will schedule an archivation > review. > > My suggestion is, to allow 2 weeks for discussion. In other words, I > will collate the input that I have received by April 12th. We will then > schedule the actual review. > > We have not had archivation reviews in the past, but I believe we should > run this as a semi-public meeting. I.e. interested parties approach me > and will be invited to the meeting. > While I am not necessarily wanting to take over the XCI project (however, I might consider it), I am putting together my own XCI distribution, OpenXCI. It is not based on the xen.org XCI project (which is rather outdated), but instead will be based on a fork of the free parts of the XCI toolstack from XenClient 2 running on a Debian 6.0 base. OpenXCI will be different from other desktop hypervisors in that it will be just a multi-boot alternative without any support for remote provisioning or management other than SSH (it's intended for people who can manage their own computers by themselves), but there is no reason that the toolstack couldn't be used elsewhere. Currently, I have working graphics and input servers, and am using them with a more or less stock Debian 6.0 system. I haven't yet ported the XCI toolstack because I am trying to find a more stable kernel (pv-ops kernels seem to be rather unstable on my system, whereas the XenClient 2 xenlinux kernel never crashed except when the drive failed). The SourceForge page is at (the graphics and input servers as well as the corresponding QEMU patches are available there; I'll post more information soon). _______________________________________________ Xci-devel mailing list Xci-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xci-devel From xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Fri Mar 30 01:51:08 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 01:51:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDQzb-0005Lo-87; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 01:51:07 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDQzZ-0005Lf-5s for xci-devel@lists.xen.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 01:51:05 +0000 Received: from [85.158.143.99:51843] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id C6/E9-20925-881157F4; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 01:51:04 +0000 X-Env-Sender: andreww591@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1333072262!15147645!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.210.173] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.8 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.5.7; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11916 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2012 01:51:03 -0000 Received: from mail-iy0-f173.google.com (HELO mail-iy0-f173.google.com) (209.85.210.173) by server-10.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Mar 2012 01:51:03 -0000 Received: by iafj26 with SMTP id j26so299332iaf.32 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:51:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=d0X26b/EN4GHgdMNGot3MajyvozQDzAMt22tGKTiZ6U=; b=yUUnqBZV7MuMo5e2LdcpVOJqgWvh/xTsyB08mkPpFy/DEvee6UuFVe7YAhMbgLF4Mk zEGae+yRnR0j4WgVhswppPvgi0URCNgohX4f7R9rm2xStfrMTH73YYRyiYcOryY4WE52 3eBPVwY9A8uuKsmPcjJ5WUvlVKlwfC56auUt0T2tTLB7g4IUZfLtVSELUPH8dcTxWaH8 Bb52eHbiJ8mpablc6HqhaUiQDgpgj1soNnY8Cr1AgzrotZ/DO3vNg9j9TrpiOm/yZr/a 6Z8+JwIQVQThPHvXJgHItIxVX9YTH60xvC+FgVGrHB4cDnLE5qbToDCGls9j/oVLOJ7W UOvg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.126.68 with SMTP id gv4mr181888icc.30.1333072262177; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.133.201 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:51:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F74593B.9000003@xen.org> References: <4F74593B.9000003@xen.org> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:51:02 -0600 Message-ID: From: Andrew Warkentin To: xen-devel@lists.xen.org Cc: xci-devel@lists.xen.org Subject: Re: [Xci-devel] [Xen-devel] Archiving XCI : Request for an Archivation Review for the XCI project X-BeenThere: xci-devel@lists.xen.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org On 3/29/12, Lars Kurth wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > the XCI project appears to have been dormant for a while and there is no > project lead for XCI today. In line with Xen governance (see > phttp://www.xen.org/projects/governance.html), I would like to first get > community views on the health of the project and then schedule an > archivation review. > > Let me quote from the process: "The review is essentially a pitch why > the project should be archived. The purpose of the review is not > necessarily to archive a project, but also to provide a last opportunity > for interested parties in the Xen.org community to save the project and > step up. The Xen.org community manager will support efforts to save the > project, should community members want to step up. There is the special > case that a project has been completed: in this case the normal > situation would be for the project lead to make the case, why this is so." > > Right now, the project shows a number of issues: > a) There is little or no activity > b) There is no project lead > c) There is no mentor for the project > d) Maybe there is a case, that the project has actually been completed > > The first step of addressing these issues, would be to find a mentor and > new project lead for the XCI project. This could be a vendor expressing > interest in leading the project, who would ultimately provide the > project lead. The project lead could also be an individual. My > suggestion is to first have an open discussion about the issues and see > if somebody is willing to step up. If so, I will work with the vendor or > individual who steps up. Failing this, we will schedule an archivation > review. > > My suggestion is, to allow 2 weeks for discussion. In other words, I > will collate the input that I have received by April 12th. We will then > schedule the actual review. > > We have not had archivation reviews in the past, but I believe we should > run this as a semi-public meeting. I.e. interested parties approach me > and will be invited to the meeting. > While I am not necessarily wanting to take over the XCI project (however, I might consider it), I am putting together my own XCI distribution, OpenXCI. It is not based on the xen.org XCI project (which is rather outdated), but instead will be based on a fork of the free parts of the XCI toolstack from XenClient 2 running on a Debian 6.0 base. OpenXCI will be different from other desktop hypervisors in that it will be just a multi-boot alternative without any support for remote provisioning or management other than SSH (it's intended for people who can manage their own computers by themselves), but there is no reason that the toolstack couldn't be used elsewhere. Currently, I have working graphics and input servers, and am using them with a more or less stock Debian 6.0 system. I haven't yet ported the XCI toolstack because I am trying to find a more stable kernel (pv-ops kernels seem to be rather unstable on my system, whereas the XenClient 2 xenlinux kernel never crashed except when the drive failed). The SourceForge page is at (the graphics and input servers as well as the corresponding QEMU patches are available there; I'll post more information soon). _______________________________________________ Xci-devel mailing list Xci-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xci-devel From xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Fri Mar 30 11:21:11 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:21:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDZtF-0005Hr-Li; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:21:09 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDZrv-0005Cp-Gq for xci-devel@lists.xen.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:19:47 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.83:46907] by server-1.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id E8/68-28458-2D6957F4; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:19:46 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1333106386!21179319!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.83.45] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.8 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Version: 6.5.7; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 8831 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2012 11:19:46 -0000 Received: from mail-ee0-f45.google.com (HELO mail-ee0-f45.google.com) (74.125.83.45) by server-13.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Mar 2012 11:19:46 -0000 Received: by eeit10 with SMTP id t10so148745eei.32 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 04:19:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2i9e5AJLpfeNeulMNLWzY3WdfnfIQMrwgam5D0V7rdE=; b=z2PB6rY/nwfFzC2qza8AwmFXbx6uy1ZCQceMuJPqMlCTjYzjd7Ku9oxJhoNeTmk4+L pNUiay6NYhQr8VAFppXebtsNmeOC9b6y43cLe0ET33kvL84LasEYsj9zzA+GXntdJ7id L8wWZPHtt8Y7QrZkINNGZqByMhq3DG+84Mh0BOViwETmVbDZ7HGRMRc+U0xF7gkfmYBB c3yEfGPAgxsWQy9qcldBYkTmVsGdUdlr1/IGEoN1HmMB/IjjOyBMDzyu/MT+K6ney11i 1ovQdoeTg8hA6wKz/nkge5YSWx7AFlb6pNhk5agd/pnQIE0MS9BdCGabJ/Vv/nv6/WBp WY0Q== Received: by 10.213.114.148 with SMTP id e20mr447148ebq.121.1333106385700; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 04:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (b0fb52a6.bb.sky.com. [176.251.82.166]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z47sm31780626een.5.2012.03.30.04.19.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 30 Mar 2012 04:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F7596CE.6000103@xen.org> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:19:42 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Warkentin References: <4F74593B.9000003@xen.org> In-Reply-To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:21:09 +0000 Cc: xci-devel@lists.xen.org, xen-devel@lists.xen.org Subject: Re: [Xci-devel] [Xen-devel] Archiving XCI : Request for an Archivation Review for the XCI project X-BeenThere: xci-devel@lists.xen.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Andrew, that is good news. I see a number of options going forward, which really depends on your preference and also what committers and maintainers in the community think: 1) OpenXCI as a new project hosted on Xen.org - starting as an incubation project as per http://www.xen.org/projects/governance.html and archive the old one. What you describe sounds sufficiently different. 2) OpenXCI as a separate project: Xen.org can help you promoting the project in various ways If you want and have a bit more clarity on what you want to do and how you want to achieve things, I could arrange a call with you and walk you through the details. Regards Lars On 30/03/2012 02:51, Andrew Warkentin wrote: > On 3/29/12, Lars Kurth wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> the XCI project appears to have been dormant for a while and there is no >> project lead for XCI today. In line with Xen governance (see >> phttp://www.xen.org/projects/governance.html), I would like to first get >> community views on the health of the project and then schedule an >> archivation review. >> >> Let me quote from the process: "The review is essentially a pitch why >> the project should be archived. The purpose of the review is not >> necessarily to archive a project, but also to provide a last opportunity >> for interested parties in the Xen.org community to save the project and >> step up. The Xen.org community manager will support efforts to save the >> project, should community members want to step up. There is the special >> case that a project has been completed: in this case the normal >> situation would be for the project lead to make the case, why this is so." >> >> Right now, the project shows a number of issues: >> a) There is little or no activity >> b) There is no project lead >> c) There is no mentor for the project >> d) Maybe there is a case, that the project has actually been completed >> >> The first step of addressing these issues, would be to find a mentor and >> new project lead for the XCI project. This could be a vendor expressing >> interest in leading the project, who would ultimately provide the >> project lead. The project lead could also be an individual. My >> suggestion is to first have an open discussion about the issues and see >> if somebody is willing to step up. If so, I will work with the vendor or >> individual who steps up. Failing this, we will schedule an archivation >> review. >> >> My suggestion is, to allow 2 weeks for discussion. In other words, I >> will collate the input that I have received by April 12th. We will then >> schedule the actual review. >> >> We have not had archivation reviews in the past, but I believe we should >> run this as a semi-public meeting. I.e. interested parties approach me >> and will be invited to the meeting. >> > While I am not necessarily wanting to take over the XCI project > (however, I might consider it), I am putting together my own XCI > distribution, OpenXCI. It is not based on the xen.org XCI project > (which is rather outdated), but instead will be based on a fork of the > free parts of the XCI toolstack from XenClient 2 running on a Debian > 6.0 base. OpenXCI will be different from other desktop hypervisors in > that it will be just a multi-boot alternative without any support for > remote provisioning or management other than SSH (it's intended for > people who can manage their own computers by themselves), but there is > no reason that the toolstack couldn't be used elsewhere. > > Currently, I have working graphics and input servers, and am using > them with a more or less stock Debian 6.0 system. I haven't yet ported > the XCI toolstack because I am trying to find a more stable kernel > (pv-ops kernels seem to be rather unstable on my system, whereas the > XenClient 2 xenlinux kernel never crashed except when the drive > failed). The SourceForge page is at > (the graphics and input servers as well as the corresponding QEMU > patches are available there; I'll post more information soon). > > _______________________________________________ > Xci-devel mailing list > Xci-devel@lists.xen.org > http://lists.xen.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xci-devel _______________________________________________ Xci-devel mailing list Xci-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xci-devel From xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Fri Mar 30 11:21:11 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:21:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDZtF-0005Hr-Li; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:21:09 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDZrv-0005Cp-Gq for xci-devel@lists.xen.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:19:47 +0000 Received: from [85.158.139.83:46907] by server-1.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id E8/68-28458-2D6957F4; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:19:46 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1333106386!21179319!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.83.45] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.8 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Version: 6.5.7; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 8831 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2012 11:19:46 -0000 Received: from mail-ee0-f45.google.com (HELO mail-ee0-f45.google.com) (74.125.83.45) by server-13.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Mar 2012 11:19:46 -0000 Received: by eeit10 with SMTP id t10so148745eei.32 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 04:19:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2i9e5AJLpfeNeulMNLWzY3WdfnfIQMrwgam5D0V7rdE=; b=z2PB6rY/nwfFzC2qza8AwmFXbx6uy1ZCQceMuJPqMlCTjYzjd7Ku9oxJhoNeTmk4+L pNUiay6NYhQr8VAFppXebtsNmeOC9b6y43cLe0ET33kvL84LasEYsj9zzA+GXntdJ7id L8wWZPHtt8Y7QrZkINNGZqByMhq3DG+84Mh0BOViwETmVbDZ7HGRMRc+U0xF7gkfmYBB c3yEfGPAgxsWQy9qcldBYkTmVsGdUdlr1/IGEoN1HmMB/IjjOyBMDzyu/MT+K6ney11i 1ovQdoeTg8hA6wKz/nkge5YSWx7AFlb6pNhk5agd/pnQIE0MS9BdCGabJ/Vv/nv6/WBp WY0Q== Received: by 10.213.114.148 with SMTP id e20mr447148ebq.121.1333106385700; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 04:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (b0fb52a6.bb.sky.com. [176.251.82.166]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z47sm31780626een.5.2012.03.30.04.19.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 30 Mar 2012 04:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F7596CE.6000103@xen.org> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:19:42 +0100 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Warkentin References: <4F74593B.9000003@xen.org> In-Reply-To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:21:09 +0000 Cc: xci-devel@lists.xen.org, xen-devel@lists.xen.org Subject: Re: [Xci-devel] [Xen-devel] Archiving XCI : Request for an Archivation Review for the XCI project X-BeenThere: xci-devel@lists.xen.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars.kurth@xen.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Andrew, that is good news. I see a number of options going forward, which really depends on your preference and also what committers and maintainers in the community think: 1) OpenXCI as a new project hosted on Xen.org - starting as an incubation project as per http://www.xen.org/projects/governance.html and archive the old one. What you describe sounds sufficiently different. 2) OpenXCI as a separate project: Xen.org can help you promoting the project in various ways If you want and have a bit more clarity on what you want to do and how you want to achieve things, I could arrange a call with you and walk you through the details. Regards Lars On 30/03/2012 02:51, Andrew Warkentin wrote: > On 3/29/12, Lars Kurth wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> the XCI project appears to have been dormant for a while and there is no >> project lead for XCI today. In line with Xen governance (see >> phttp://www.xen.org/projects/governance.html), I would like to first get >> community views on the health of the project and then schedule an >> archivation review. >> >> Let me quote from the process: "The review is essentially a pitch why >> the project should be archived. The purpose of the review is not >> necessarily to archive a project, but also to provide a last opportunity >> for interested parties in the Xen.org community to save the project and >> step up. The Xen.org community manager will support efforts to save the >> project, should community members want to step up. There is the special >> case that a project has been completed: in this case the normal >> situation would be for the project lead to make the case, why this is so." >> >> Right now, the project shows a number of issues: >> a) There is little or no activity >> b) There is no project lead >> c) There is no mentor for the project >> d) Maybe there is a case, that the project has actually been completed >> >> The first step of addressing these issues, would be to find a mentor and >> new project lead for the XCI project. This could be a vendor expressing >> interest in leading the project, who would ultimately provide the >> project lead. The project lead could also be an individual. My >> suggestion is to first have an open discussion about the issues and see >> if somebody is willing to step up. If so, I will work with the vendor or >> individual who steps up. Failing this, we will schedule an archivation >> review. >> >> My suggestion is, to allow 2 weeks for discussion. In other words, I >> will collate the input that I have received by April 12th. We will then >> schedule the actual review. >> >> We have not had archivation reviews in the past, but I believe we should >> run this as a semi-public meeting. I.e. interested parties approach me >> and will be invited to the meeting. >> > While I am not necessarily wanting to take over the XCI project > (however, I might consider it), I am putting together my own XCI > distribution, OpenXCI. It is not based on the xen.org XCI project > (which is rather outdated), but instead will be based on a fork of the > free parts of the XCI toolstack from XenClient 2 running on a Debian > 6.0 base. OpenXCI will be different from other desktop hypervisors in > that it will be just a multi-boot alternative without any support for > remote provisioning or management other than SSH (it's intended for > people who can manage their own computers by themselves), but there is > no reason that the toolstack couldn't be used elsewhere. > > Currently, I have working graphics and input servers, and am using > them with a more or less stock Debian 6.0 system. I haven't yet ported > the XCI toolstack because I am trying to find a more stable kernel > (pv-ops kernels seem to be rather unstable on my system, whereas the > XenClient 2 xenlinux kernel never crashed except when the drive > failed). The SourceForge page is at > (the graphics and input servers as well as the corresponding QEMU > patches are available there; I'll post more information soon). > > _______________________________________________ > Xci-devel mailing list > Xci-devel@lists.xen.org > http://lists.xen.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xci-devel _______________________________________________ Xci-devel mailing list Xci-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xci-devel From xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Sat Mar 31 10:56:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:56:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDvyf-0004r3-IE; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:56:13 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDvye-0004qu-Jw for xci-devel@lists.xen.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:56:12 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:34253] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 12/AC-11570-BC2E67F4; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:56:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pasik@iki.fi X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1333191370!2817242!1 X-Originating-IP: [192.89.123.25] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTkyLjg5LjEyMy4yNSA9PiA0MDkxNTc=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.5.7; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23877 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2012 10:56:11 -0000 Received: from smtp.tele.fi (HELO smtp.tele.fi) (192.89.123.25) by server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 31 Mar 2012 10:56:11 -0000 X-Originating-Ip: [194.89.68.22] Received: from ydin.reaktio.net (reaktio.net [194.89.68.22]) by smtp.tele.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BE41A00; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:56:10 +0300 (EEST) Received: by ydin.reaktio.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1708F200F0; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:56:10 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:56:10 +0300 From: Pasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4rkk=E4inen?= To: Andrew Warkentin Message-ID: <20120331105610.GW12984@reaktio.net> References: <4F74593B.9000003@xen.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: xci-devel@lists.xen.org, xen-devel@lists.xen.org Subject: Re: [Xci-devel] [Xen-devel] Archiving XCI : Request for an Archivation Review for the XCI project X-BeenThere: xci-devel@lists.xen.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 07:51:02PM -0600, Andrew Warkentin wrote: > > While I am not necessarily wanting to take over the XCI project > (however, I might consider it), I am putting together my own XCI > distribution, OpenXCI. It is not based on the xen.org XCI project > (which is rather outdated), but instead will be based on a fork of the > free parts of the XCI toolstack from XenClient 2 running on a Debian > 6.0 base. OpenXCI will be different from other desktop hypervisors in > that it will be just a multi-boot alternative without any support for > remote provisioning or management other than SSH (it's intended for > people who can manage their own computers by themselves), but there is > no reason that the toolstack couldn't be used elsewhere. > Nice! > Currently, I have working graphics and input servers, and am using > them with a more or less stock Debian 6.0 system. I haven't yet ported > the XCI toolstack because I am trying to find a more stable kernel > (pv-ops kernels seem to be rather unstable on my system, whereas the > XenClient 2 xenlinux kernel never crashed except when the drive > failed). The SourceForge page is at > (the graphics and input servers as well as the corresponding QEMU > patches are available there; I'll post more information soon). > It'd be nice if you could capture the pvops dom0 kernel errors/logs, so the problems can be fixed. Everyone should switch to pvops kernel by now, so all the issues and rough edges can be sorted out! You can use serial console to capture the boot messages/errors: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Serial_Console In the case of a laptop you can use SOL (if your hardware has it), or you can get a suitable ExpressCard (PCIe) serial adapter. -- Pasi _______________________________________________ Xci-devel mailing list Xci-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xci-devel From xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Sat Mar 31 10:56:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:56:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDvyf-0004r3-IE; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:56:13 +0000 Received: from mail6.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.103]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDvye-0004qu-Jw for xci-devel@lists.xen.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:56:12 +0000 Received: from [193.109.254.147:34253] by server-4.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 12/AC-11570-BC2E67F4; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:56:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pasik@iki.fi X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1333191370!2817242!1 X-Originating-IP: [192.89.123.25] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTkyLjg5LjEyMy4yNSA9PiA0MDkxNTc=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.5.7; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23877 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2012 10:56:11 -0000 Received: from smtp.tele.fi (HELO smtp.tele.fi) (192.89.123.25) by server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 31 Mar 2012 10:56:11 -0000 X-Originating-Ip: [194.89.68.22] Received: from ydin.reaktio.net (reaktio.net [194.89.68.22]) by smtp.tele.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BE41A00; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:56:10 +0300 (EEST) Received: by ydin.reaktio.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1708F200F0; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:56:10 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:56:10 +0300 From: Pasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4rkk=E4inen?= To: Andrew Warkentin Message-ID: <20120331105610.GW12984@reaktio.net> References: <4F74593B.9000003@xen.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: xci-devel@lists.xen.org, xen-devel@lists.xen.org Subject: Re: [Xci-devel] [Xen-devel] Archiving XCI : Request for an Archivation Review for the XCI project X-BeenThere: xci-devel@lists.xen.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xci-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 07:51:02PM -0600, Andrew Warkentin wrote: > > While I am not necessarily wanting to take over the XCI project > (however, I might consider it), I am putting together my own XCI > distribution, OpenXCI. It is not based on the xen.org XCI project > (which is rather outdated), but instead will be based on a fork of the > free parts of the XCI toolstack from XenClient 2 running on a Debian > 6.0 base. OpenXCI will be different from other desktop hypervisors in > that it will be just a multi-boot alternative without any support for > remote provisioning or management other than SSH (it's intended for > people who can manage their own computers by themselves), but there is > no reason that the toolstack couldn't be used elsewhere. > Nice! > Currently, I have working graphics and input servers, and am using > them with a more or less stock Debian 6.0 system. I haven't yet ported > the XCI toolstack because I am trying to find a more stable kernel > (pv-ops kernels seem to be rather unstable on my system, whereas the > XenClient 2 xenlinux kernel never crashed except when the drive > failed). The SourceForge page is at > (the graphics and input servers as well as the corresponding QEMU > patches are available there; I'll post more information soon). > It'd be nice if you could capture the pvops dom0 kernel errors/logs, so the problems can be fixed. Everyone should switch to pvops kernel by now, so all the issues and rough edges can be sorted out! You can use serial console to capture the boot messages/errors: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Serial_Console In the case of a laptop you can use SOL (if your hardware has it), or you can get a suitable ExpressCard (PCIe) serial adapter. -- Pasi _______________________________________________ Xci-devel mailing list Xci-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xci-devel