From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 01 17:28:33 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:28:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RWAQs-0008QN-5A; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:28:26 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RWAQq-0008Ox-9T for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:28:24 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Dave.Scott@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1322760464!5820940!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA5MTU2Nw==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18088 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2011 17:27:44 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Dec 2011 17:27:44 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,279,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9237189" Received: from lonpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 01 Dec 2011 17:27:44 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) with mapi; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:27:44 +0000 From: Dave Scott To: 'George Shuklin' , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:27:44 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] making it easier to install VMs on XCP Thread-Index: AcyuvZ5czZk0NL9gSMmcHP4fFYes/QBkDyEg Message-ID: <81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD21C4F901F527@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> References: <81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD21C4F901F513@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> <4ED517D9.3040405@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ED517D9.3040405@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] making it easier to install VMs on XCP X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi George, > This will be nice, but how we define 'auto-install'? I mean LVM vs > plain > partition, network settings, enabled ssh and so on? I think this kind > of > problem is bother all virtualization players and SUSE right now do have > most advanced solution with yast/autoyast configuration tool. The general case is certainly very complicated. I'd like to make it really easy to install an example configuration for testing/demo purposes ("xe vm-install"; "xe vm-start" and you're done). Probably the best we can do for the more complicated cases is attempt to support the tools the distro makers create. > > N.B. I add some proposal about pre-shipped initrd/kernel. Thanks for adding some ideas to the wiki! I like the automatic-switch-to-VM-console idea in particular. Cheers, Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 01 17:28:33 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:28:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RWAQs-0008QN-5A; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:28:26 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RWAQq-0008Ox-9T for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:28:24 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Dave.Scott@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1322760464!5820940!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA5MTU2Nw==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18088 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2011 17:27:44 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Dec 2011 17:27:44 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,279,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9237189" Received: from lonpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 01 Dec 2011 17:27:44 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) with mapi; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:27:44 +0000 From: Dave Scott To: 'George Shuklin' , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:27:44 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] making it easier to install VMs on XCP Thread-Index: AcyuvZ5czZk0NL9gSMmcHP4fFYes/QBkDyEg Message-ID: <81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD21C4F901F527@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> References: <81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD21C4F901F513@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> <4ED517D9.3040405@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ED517D9.3040405@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] making it easier to install VMs on XCP X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi George, > This will be nice, but how we define 'auto-install'? I mean LVM vs > plain > partition, network settings, enabled ssh and so on? I think this kind > of > problem is bother all virtualization players and SUSE right now do have > most advanced solution with yast/autoyast configuration tool. The general case is certainly very complicated. I'd like to make it really easy to install an example configuration for testing/demo purposes ("xe vm-install"; "xe vm-start" and you're done). Probably the best we can do for the more complicated cases is attempt to support the tools the distro makers create. > > N.B. I add some proposal about pre-shipped initrd/kernel. Thanks for adding some ideas to the wiki! I like the automatic-switch-to-VM-console idea in particular. Cheers, Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 02 01:18:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:18:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RWHlF-00004y-3f; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:17:57 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RWHlD-00004q-KK for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:17:55 +0000 X-Env-Sender: tom.flynn@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1322788633!3936506!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.210.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12319 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2011 01:17:15 -0000 Received: from mail-iy0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-iy0-f171.google.com) (209.85.210.171) by server-6.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Dec 2011 01:17:15 -0000 Received: by iaen33 with SMTP id n33so4915584iae.30 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:17:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MSxIf69YYTwCVGVdESUbKumu2K5ECGQ+OZZXVGZHnu0=; b=wCTRtJBogDTqHilqs7yQhBG1qrwKgNYg+fHz1PUfW5oowizLyGJ+GuWFBZXnPlYB4O dynODNZ21yPUYDVkYm2vzQcLFjXAOFRbBay1inNoLXZT9O99ENa7kGLMvPjCcZ60Fek8 z1JEKkm8GtBUAErPYtHOg7epklgLkBsywaDdg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.137.69 with SMTP id x5mr11202014ict.19.1322788633328; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:17:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.206.17 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:17:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:17:13 -0800 Message-ID: From: Tom Flynn To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] Retrieving custom data from VM using XAPI? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi, Is there any way for a guest to expose information that can be read from outside using only XAPI? VM.xenstore_data has everything from /local/domain/{id}/vm-data but HVM guests aren't able to write there (at least on XenServer 5.6/6.0) Guests are able to write to /local/domain/{id}/data though. Is there any way to see this using XAPI? Any other suggestions? Thanks, Tom _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 02 01:18:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:18:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RWHlF-00004y-3f; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:17:57 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RWHlD-00004q-KK for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:17:55 +0000 X-Env-Sender: tom.flynn@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1322788633!3936506!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.210.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.1; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12319 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2011 01:17:15 -0000 Received: from mail-iy0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-iy0-f171.google.com) (209.85.210.171) by server-6.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Dec 2011 01:17:15 -0000 Received: by iaen33 with SMTP id n33so4915584iae.30 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:17:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MSxIf69YYTwCVGVdESUbKumu2K5ECGQ+OZZXVGZHnu0=; b=wCTRtJBogDTqHilqs7yQhBG1qrwKgNYg+fHz1PUfW5oowizLyGJ+GuWFBZXnPlYB4O dynODNZ21yPUYDVkYm2vzQcLFjXAOFRbBay1inNoLXZT9O99ENa7kGLMvPjCcZ60Fek8 z1JEKkm8GtBUAErPYtHOg7epklgLkBsywaDdg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.137.69 with SMTP id x5mr11202014ict.19.1322788633328; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:17:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.206.17 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:17:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:17:13 -0800 Message-ID: From: Tom Flynn To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] Retrieving custom data from VM using XAPI? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi, Is there any way for a guest to expose information that can be read from outside using only XAPI? VM.xenstore_data has everything from /local/domain/{id}/vm-data but HVM guests aren't able to write there (at least on XenServer 5.6/6.0) Guests are able to write to /local/domain/{id}/data though. Is there any way to see this using XAPI? Any other suggestions? Thanks, Tom _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sat Dec 03 22:34:35 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 22:34:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RWyA5-0003tq-15; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 22:34:25 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RWyA2-0003tl-Ts for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 22:34:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: jakob@praher.info X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1322951590!55281545!1 X-Originating-IP: [83.164.192.83] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 4140 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2011 22:33:10 -0000 Received: from r0.relay.mail.lagis.at (HELO r0.relay.mail.lagis.at) (83.164.192.83) by server-9.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2011 22:33:10 -0000 Received: from mail2.farm.prahersoft.com (unknown [83.164.139.102]) by reseller.relay.mail.lagis.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A222C0A8; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 23:33:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (mail2.farm.prahersoft.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.farm.prahersoft.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id D324D7EC93; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 23:33:33 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=praher.info; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:to:mime-version:user-agent:from:date:message-id :x-virus-scanned; s=dkim; t=1322951612; x=1323815612; bh=H7Y4m/c LOkkF2VfJ5NAKOVEzGE+1TYs5vBTJmmb+eoU=; b=dHp0boxKf/jAspXt51OVOGN i9MMuScqv9eRgTZoQlub3R+KMJzg9G/TOqAGqL390fYUvD8ZcTMhf6Un67zXlIBo dOW9NCFg+YmmuVJx3mM1Vq/nABDlzF+7F/ETd1xV7WItMbf5Bhsq++klFM++a7/Q 8100nEqCxZd7FSCb7FP4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at xenU_syssrv-mail2 Received: from mail2.farm.prahersoft.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.farm.prahersoft.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w27Iy0YFcrjX; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 23:33:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from Fabasoft-AGs-MacBook-Pro.local (cm56-253-210.liwest.at [86.56.253.210]) by mail2.farm.prahersoft.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPSA id 7FEE87EC92; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 23:33:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EDAA3BC.6060700@praher.info> Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 23:33:32 +0100 From: Jakob Praher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Scott References: <4ECD4B6E.8060407@praher.info> <81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD21C4F901F502@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> In-Reply-To: <81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD21C4F901F502@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: [Xen-API] Joining a destroyed host again to the resource pool WAS: Fwd: Issue XCP 1.1: Shared LVM SR - unavailable host leaves VDI attached RW (xe vdi-introduce not available) X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Dear Scott, Dear List, @Scott: that is good to now. What means later xapi builds? I am using XCP 1.1. I tried various attemps (even restarting the machine - I think also after the host-forget command). Now I am currenlty facing the converse issue: Since I did a host-destroy (in my last attempt to correct the power-state), the host is erased from the resource pool metadata. But I want to simply add the again working host to its old resource pool without having to make a clean sweep. What is a good way to rejoin a destroyed host without compromising the resource pool and the current master? Can I somehow convert a server that was formerly part of resource pool to be standalone again and then proceed as if it was a fresh installation? Thanks, Jakob Am 23.11.11 22:05, schrieb Dave Scott: > Hi, > > I believe Jon's advice in this earlier thread is still valid: > > http://old-list-archives.xen.org/archives/html/xen-api/2011-02/msg00066.html > > FYI in later xapi builds a "xe host-forget" followed by a "service xapi restart" would also fix it. > > HTH, > Dave > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-api- >> bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Jakob Praher >> Sent: 23 November 2011 19:37 >> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> Subject: [Xen-API] Fwd: Issue XCP 1.1: Shared LVM SR - unavailable host >> leaves VDI attached RW (xe vdi-introduce not available) >> >> Dear list, >> >> We observed the following issue in conjunction w/ XCP 1.1 which is a >> _severe_ problem. >> >> Our environment: >> - Two XCP 1.1 hosts in the same resource pool >> - Shared LVM based storage repository based on DRBD >> - VMs running on both systems stored on the shared SR >> >> If suddenly one host dies unexpectedly (e.g. hardware defect, power >> issue) the metadata still assumes the VMs that were running on the >> unavailable host are in power-state running. >> >> After ensuring the master to be the still available host and manually >> resetting the power-state of the VMs running on the unavailable host we >> faced the following problem: >> >> - The VDI state was still readwrite attached allthough the whole host >> was unavailable. This also preserved when we made the system to forget >> the unavailable host. >> >> - Even worse "xe vdi-introduce" does not work since it is not >> supported >> by the LVM backend. All other tricks even snapshotting the disk does >> not >> work, since XAPI tries to contact the dead host and this fails. >> >> The problem is that as long the host is down for maintenance the VMs >> are >> in a defective state! >> >> What is the way out of this dilemma? >> >> Best regards, >> Jakob >> >> P.S.: I have not only restarted xapi but also the available host. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sat Dec 03 22:34:35 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 22:34:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RWyA5-0003tq-15; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 22:34:25 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RWyA2-0003tl-Ts for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 22:34:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: jakob@praher.info X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1322951590!55281545!1 X-Originating-IP: [83.164.192.83] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 4140 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2011 22:33:10 -0000 Received: from r0.relay.mail.lagis.at (HELO r0.relay.mail.lagis.at) (83.164.192.83) by server-9.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2011 22:33:10 -0000 Received: from mail2.farm.prahersoft.com (unknown [83.164.139.102]) by reseller.relay.mail.lagis.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A222C0A8; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 23:33:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (mail2.farm.prahersoft.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.farm.prahersoft.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id D324D7EC93; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 23:33:33 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=praher.info; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:to:mime-version:user-agent:from:date:message-id :x-virus-scanned; s=dkim; t=1322951612; x=1323815612; bh=H7Y4m/c LOkkF2VfJ5NAKOVEzGE+1TYs5vBTJmmb+eoU=; b=dHp0boxKf/jAspXt51OVOGN i9MMuScqv9eRgTZoQlub3R+KMJzg9G/TOqAGqL390fYUvD8ZcTMhf6Un67zXlIBo dOW9NCFg+YmmuVJx3mM1Vq/nABDlzF+7F/ETd1xV7WItMbf5Bhsq++klFM++a7/Q 8100nEqCxZd7FSCb7FP4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at xenU_syssrv-mail2 Received: from mail2.farm.prahersoft.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.farm.prahersoft.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w27Iy0YFcrjX; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 23:33:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from Fabasoft-AGs-MacBook-Pro.local (cm56-253-210.liwest.at [86.56.253.210]) by mail2.farm.prahersoft.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPSA id 7FEE87EC92; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 23:33:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EDAA3BC.6060700@praher.info> Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 23:33:32 +0100 From: Jakob Praher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Scott References: <4ECD4B6E.8060407@praher.info> <81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD21C4F901F502@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> In-Reply-To: <81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD21C4F901F502@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: [Xen-API] Joining a destroyed host again to the resource pool WAS: Fwd: Issue XCP 1.1: Shared LVM SR - unavailable host leaves VDI attached RW (xe vdi-introduce not available) X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Dear Scott, Dear List, @Scott: that is good to now. What means later xapi builds? I am using XCP 1.1. I tried various attemps (even restarting the machine - I think also after the host-forget command). Now I am currenlty facing the converse issue: Since I did a host-destroy (in my last attempt to correct the power-state), the host is erased from the resource pool metadata. But I want to simply add the again working host to its old resource pool without having to make a clean sweep. What is a good way to rejoin a destroyed host without compromising the resource pool and the current master? Can I somehow convert a server that was formerly part of resource pool to be standalone again and then proceed as if it was a fresh installation? Thanks, Jakob Am 23.11.11 22:05, schrieb Dave Scott: > Hi, > > I believe Jon's advice in this earlier thread is still valid: > > http://old-list-archives.xen.org/archives/html/xen-api/2011-02/msg00066.html > > FYI in later xapi builds a "xe host-forget" followed by a "service xapi restart" would also fix it. > > HTH, > Dave > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-api- >> bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Jakob Praher >> Sent: 23 November 2011 19:37 >> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> Subject: [Xen-API] Fwd: Issue XCP 1.1: Shared LVM SR - unavailable host >> leaves VDI attached RW (xe vdi-introduce not available) >> >> Dear list, >> >> We observed the following issue in conjunction w/ XCP 1.1 which is a >> _severe_ problem. >> >> Our environment: >> - Two XCP 1.1 hosts in the same resource pool >> - Shared LVM based storage repository based on DRBD >> - VMs running on both systems stored on the shared SR >> >> If suddenly one host dies unexpectedly (e.g. hardware defect, power >> issue) the metadata still assumes the VMs that were running on the >> unavailable host are in power-state running. >> >> After ensuring the master to be the still available host and manually >> resetting the power-state of the VMs running on the unavailable host we >> faced the following problem: >> >> - The VDI state was still readwrite attached allthough the whole host >> was unavailable. This also preserved when we made the system to forget >> the unavailable host. >> >> - Even worse "xe vdi-introduce" does not work since it is not >> supported >> by the LVM backend. All other tricks even snapshotting the disk does >> not >> work, since XAPI tries to contact the dead host and this fails. >> >> The problem is that as long the host is down for maintenance the VMs >> are >> in a defective state! >> >> What is the way out of this dilemma? >> >> Best regards, >> Jakob >> >> P.S.: I have not only restarted xapi but also the available host. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 05 10:30:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:30:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXVoi-0001jz-UC; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:30:36 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXVoh-0001jV-8H for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:30:35 +0000 X-Env-Sender: chris.percol@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323080973!57685988!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.160.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25659 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2011 10:29:34 -0000 Received: from mail-gy0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-gy0-f171.google.com) (209.85.160.171) by server-15.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 5 Dec 2011 10:29:34 -0000 Received: by ghrr15 with SMTP id r15so46531413ghr.30 for ; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 02:29:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IJ8XWKelREV21sqzHAfZa5tqP3DkmZWMqANnbhOFsiQ=; b=AppNRBVrLqdzsK8ICyIMW95/Y7iUNjOp49in66BMeq2TFKyAEgWLIRTezVaV889/UE OBNZlX6UA5WXFqHoF2cBzM2oookhkCa2ei9CnxUj5mloTK4Y7mWlacq5bKkN0YsIs0E3 +HohS1lO8DXd5Icy5lvx9Jxn4IcpJlTT3ZEuw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.52.4 with SMTP id z4mr1655778anz.62.1323080989759; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 02:29:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.116.18 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 02:29:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 10:29:49 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Percol To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] log issues X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi, We are running a pool of xcp 1 #42052 hosts. /var/log/messages and /var/log/kern.log got hit about 2Gb las night and crashed one of our hosts, the pool master. What is scheduling logrotation, I can't see it in cron? I plan to up the frequency of rotations and limit the file size of logs. Can I also ask if there are any monitoring features built into xcp? We use icinga for monitoring but I am reluctant to start tinkering with xcp by installing nrpe etc. Many thanks, Chris _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 05 10:30:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:30:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXVoi-0001jz-UC; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:30:36 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXVoh-0001jV-8H for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:30:35 +0000 X-Env-Sender: chris.percol@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323080973!57685988!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.160.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25659 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2011 10:29:34 -0000 Received: from mail-gy0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-gy0-f171.google.com) (209.85.160.171) by server-15.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 5 Dec 2011 10:29:34 -0000 Received: by ghrr15 with SMTP id r15so46531413ghr.30 for ; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 02:29:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IJ8XWKelREV21sqzHAfZa5tqP3DkmZWMqANnbhOFsiQ=; b=AppNRBVrLqdzsK8ICyIMW95/Y7iUNjOp49in66BMeq2TFKyAEgWLIRTezVaV889/UE OBNZlX6UA5WXFqHoF2cBzM2oookhkCa2ei9CnxUj5mloTK4Y7mWlacq5bKkN0YsIs0E3 +HohS1lO8DXd5Icy5lvx9Jxn4IcpJlTT3ZEuw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.52.4 with SMTP id z4mr1655778anz.62.1323080989759; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 02:29:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.116.18 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 02:29:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 10:29:49 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Percol To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] log issues X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi, We are running a pool of xcp 1 #42052 hosts. /var/log/messages and /var/log/kern.log got hit about 2Gb las night and crashed one of our hosts, the pool master. What is scheduling logrotation, I can't see it in cron? I plan to up the frequency of rotations and limit the file size of logs. Can I also ask if there are any monitoring features built into xcp? We use icinga for monitoring but I am reluctant to start tinkering with xcp by installing nrpe etc. Many thanks, Chris _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 05 10:36:00 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:36:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXVtp-0001qW-EL; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:35:53 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXVto-0001qR-8b for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:35:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: chris.percol@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1323081306!4263528!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.160.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.8 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19307 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2011 10:35:07 -0000 Received: from mail-gy0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-gy0-f171.google.com) (209.85.160.171) by server-4.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 5 Dec 2011 10:35:07 -0000 Received: by ghrr15 with SMTP id r15so46569596ghr.30 for ; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 02:35:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qP+wYviKoPq73MA4/2/1d6M7Q0yCSKw8HjR1YGEfnes=; b=BxBNwvV4uRBO5v80TqVd1hMM/S0OIqj5O+R5PK9KEVevEkechj7ycygN+fGpErxThM IJwefj9tZ52cXevvi768Z/fF5D/Pz0SgXBLGDKq25rlqIAALt6onjCRS4pBMdwP6mu6Z kfmvjVX4KyR+pjFb0CZdtkK8NJG+h69tEyp/c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.156.12 with SMTP id i12mr1684769ano.84.1323081305825; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 02:35:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.116.18 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 02:35:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 10:35:05 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Percol To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] log issues X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Ok, so I'm recovering from brain freeze after yesterdays outage and forgot about cron.daily. However, I'd still be keen to know about monitoring thoughts. Thanks, Chris On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Chris Percol wrote: > Hi, > > We are running a pool of xcp 1 #42052 hosts. > > /var/log/messages and /var/log/kern.log got hit about 2Gb las night > and crashed one of our hosts, the pool master. > > What is scheduling logrotation, I can't see it in cron? I plan to up > the frequency of rotations and limit the file size of logs. > > Can I also ask if there are any monitoring features built into xcp? We > use icinga for monitoring but I am reluctant to start tinkering with > xcp by installing nrpe etc. > > Many thanks, > > Chris _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 05 10:36:00 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:36:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXVtp-0001qW-EL; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:35:53 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXVto-0001qR-8b for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:35:52 +0000 X-Env-Sender: chris.percol@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1323081306!4263528!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.160.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.8 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19307 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2011 10:35:07 -0000 Received: from mail-gy0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-gy0-f171.google.com) (209.85.160.171) by server-4.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 5 Dec 2011 10:35:07 -0000 Received: by ghrr15 with SMTP id r15so46569596ghr.30 for ; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 02:35:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qP+wYviKoPq73MA4/2/1d6M7Q0yCSKw8HjR1YGEfnes=; b=BxBNwvV4uRBO5v80TqVd1hMM/S0OIqj5O+R5PK9KEVevEkechj7ycygN+fGpErxThM IJwefj9tZ52cXevvi768Z/fF5D/Pz0SgXBLGDKq25rlqIAALt6onjCRS4pBMdwP6mu6Z kfmvjVX4KyR+pjFb0CZdtkK8NJG+h69tEyp/c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.156.12 with SMTP id i12mr1684769ano.84.1323081305825; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 02:35:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.116.18 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 02:35:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 10:35:05 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Percol To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] log issues X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Ok, so I'm recovering from brain freeze after yesterdays outage and forgot about cron.daily. However, I'd still be keen to know about monitoring thoughts. Thanks, Chris On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Chris Percol wrote: > Hi, > > We are running a pool of xcp 1 #42052 hosts. > > /var/log/messages and /var/log/kern.log got hit about 2Gb las night > and crashed one of our hosts, the pool master. > > What is scheduling logrotation, I can't see it in cron? I plan to up > the frequency of rotations and limit the file size of logs. > > Can I also ask if there are any monitoring features built into xcp? We > use icinga for monitoring but I am reluctant to start tinkering with > xcp by installing nrpe etc. > > Many thanks, > > Chris _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 05 21:19:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 21:19:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXfwR-0002va-9r; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 21:19:15 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXfwP-0002vV-Ko for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 21:19:14 +0000 X-Env-Sender: jakob@praher.info X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323119908!6255448!1 X-Originating-IP: [83.164.192.85] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12085 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2011 21:18:28 -0000 Received: from r2.relay.mail.lagis.at (HELO r2.relay.mail.lagis.at) (83.164.192.85) by server-15.tower-216.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2011 21:18:28 -0000 Received: from mail2.farm.prahersoft.com (unknown [83.164.139.102]) by reseller.relay.mail.lagis.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F09880C3 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:18:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (mail2.farm.prahersoft.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.farm.prahersoft.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id 7776356390 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:18:20 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=praher.info; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:to:mime-version:user-agent:from:date:message-id :x-virus-scanned; s=dkim; t=1323119899; x=1323983899; bh=vh9z9A2 +mVhir1SNjF2NldG7bkTKoBD1EblUjam/T9E=; b=l0CVAPhuOfnqcKU0pwm9p/D Q7bc6U/CB6cLwaVblAZ+3iQmoUf7tK9JqXhqQFCeV5H5FrVd1fQaJxLwO4pXZXwd d+nVLZyV7FQ4OUKSsRDB/Lx0b5/vVkY0tAeXWvkm6bcxIXbwNU/E/wMG1gSsXD92 rRctk7rxtmsoz0lqeY1w= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at xenU_syssrv-mail2 Received: from mail2.farm.prahersoft.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.farm.prahersoft.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YeCL6cOOCk52 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:18:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from Fabasoft-AGs-MacBook-Pro.local (cm56-253-210.liwest.at [86.56.253.210]) by mail2.farm.prahersoft.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPSA id C05855638E for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:18:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EDD351D.1070707@praher.info> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:18:21 +0100 From: Jakob Praher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" References: <4ECD4B6E.8060407@praher.info> <81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD21C4F901F502@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> <4EDAA3BC.6060700@praher.info> In-Reply-To: <4EDAA3BC.6060700@praher.info> Subject: [Xen-API] Resetting XCP configuration into factory defaults - simply reset state.db? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi, sorry about the noise, but there IMHO there is no good documentation about how to reset the configuration of an XCP installation. Is it ok to just erase the state.db and set the /etc/xensource/pool.conf to master, to reset the Xen API part of an XCP installation? As I wrote earlier - because of the VDI state problems I did a host destroy and now want to simply re-add the machine (I do not mind about the old metadata on the machine) without having to reinstall the whole system. Thanks for your support, Jakob Am 03.12.11 23:33, schrieb Jakob Praher: > Dear Scott, > Dear List, > > @Scott: that is good to now. What means later xapi builds? I am using > XCP 1.1. I tried various attemps (even restarting the machine - I think > also after the host-forget command). > > Now I am currenlty facing the converse issue: Since I did a host-destroy > (in my last attempt to correct the power-state), the host is erased from > the resource pool metadata. But I want to simply add the again working > host to its old resource pool without having to make a clean sweep. > > What is a good way to rejoin a destroyed host without compromising the > resource pool and the current master? > Can I somehow convert a server that was formerly part of resource pool > to be standalone again and then proceed as if it was a fresh installation? > > Thanks, > Jakob > > Am 23.11.11 22:05, schrieb Dave Scott: >> Hi, >> >> I believe Jon's advice in this earlier thread is still valid: >> >> http://old-list-archives.xen.org/archives/html/xen-api/2011-02/msg00066.html >> >> FYI in later xapi builds a "xe host-forget" followed by a "service xapi restart" would also fix it. >> >> HTH, >> Dave >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-api- >>> bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Jakob Praher >>> Sent: 23 November 2011 19:37 >>> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com >>> Subject: [Xen-API] Fwd: Issue XCP 1.1: Shared LVM SR - unavailable host >>> leaves VDI attached RW (xe vdi-introduce not available) >>> >>> Dear list, >>> >>> We observed the following issue in conjunction w/ XCP 1.1 which is a >>> _severe_ problem. >>> >>> Our environment: >>> - Two XCP 1.1 hosts in the same resource pool >>> - Shared LVM based storage repository based on DRBD >>> - VMs running on both systems stored on the shared SR >>> >>> If suddenly one host dies unexpectedly (e.g. hardware defect, power >>> issue) the metadata still assumes the VMs that were running on the >>> unavailable host are in power-state running. >>> >>> After ensuring the master to be the still available host and manually >>> resetting the power-state of the VMs running on the unavailable host we >>> faced the following problem: >>> >>> - The VDI state was still readwrite attached allthough the whole host >>> was unavailable. This also preserved when we made the system to forget >>> the unavailable host. >>> >>> - Even worse "xe vdi-introduce" does not work since it is not >>> supported >>> by the LVM backend. All other tricks even snapshotting the disk does >>> not >>> work, since XAPI tries to contact the dead host and this fails. >>> >>> The problem is that as long the host is down for maintenance the VMs >>> are >>> in a defective state! >>> >>> What is the way out of this dilemma? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Jakob >>> >>> P.S.: I have not only restarted xapi but also the available host. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xen-api mailing list >>> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >>> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 05 21:19:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 21:19:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXfwR-0002va-9r; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 21:19:15 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXfwP-0002vV-Ko for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 21:19:14 +0000 X-Env-Sender: jakob@praher.info X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323119908!6255448!1 X-Originating-IP: [83.164.192.85] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12085 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2011 21:18:28 -0000 Received: from r2.relay.mail.lagis.at (HELO r2.relay.mail.lagis.at) (83.164.192.85) by server-15.tower-216.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2011 21:18:28 -0000 Received: from mail2.farm.prahersoft.com (unknown [83.164.139.102]) by reseller.relay.mail.lagis.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F09880C3 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:18:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (mail2.farm.prahersoft.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.farm.prahersoft.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id 7776356390 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:18:20 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=praher.info; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:to:mime-version:user-agent:from:date:message-id :x-virus-scanned; s=dkim; t=1323119899; x=1323983899; bh=vh9z9A2 +mVhir1SNjF2NldG7bkTKoBD1EblUjam/T9E=; b=l0CVAPhuOfnqcKU0pwm9p/D Q7bc6U/CB6cLwaVblAZ+3iQmoUf7tK9JqXhqQFCeV5H5FrVd1fQaJxLwO4pXZXwd d+nVLZyV7FQ4OUKSsRDB/Lx0b5/vVkY0tAeXWvkm6bcxIXbwNU/E/wMG1gSsXD92 rRctk7rxtmsoz0lqeY1w= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at xenU_syssrv-mail2 Received: from mail2.farm.prahersoft.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.farm.prahersoft.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YeCL6cOOCk52 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:18:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from Fabasoft-AGs-MacBook-Pro.local (cm56-253-210.liwest.at [86.56.253.210]) by mail2.farm.prahersoft.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPSA id C05855638E for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:18:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EDD351D.1070707@praher.info> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:18:21 +0100 From: Jakob Praher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" References: <4ECD4B6E.8060407@praher.info> <81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD21C4F901F502@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> <4EDAA3BC.6060700@praher.info> In-Reply-To: <4EDAA3BC.6060700@praher.info> Subject: [Xen-API] Resetting XCP configuration into factory defaults - simply reset state.db? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi, sorry about the noise, but there IMHO there is no good documentation about how to reset the configuration of an XCP installation. Is it ok to just erase the state.db and set the /etc/xensource/pool.conf to master, to reset the Xen API part of an XCP installation? As I wrote earlier - because of the VDI state problems I did a host destroy and now want to simply re-add the machine (I do not mind about the old metadata on the machine) without having to reinstall the whole system. Thanks for your support, Jakob Am 03.12.11 23:33, schrieb Jakob Praher: > Dear Scott, > Dear List, > > @Scott: that is good to now. What means later xapi builds? I am using > XCP 1.1. I tried various attemps (even restarting the machine - I think > also after the host-forget command). > > Now I am currenlty facing the converse issue: Since I did a host-destroy > (in my last attempt to correct the power-state), the host is erased from > the resource pool metadata. But I want to simply add the again working > host to its old resource pool without having to make a clean sweep. > > What is a good way to rejoin a destroyed host without compromising the > resource pool and the current master? > Can I somehow convert a server that was formerly part of resource pool > to be standalone again and then proceed as if it was a fresh installation? > > Thanks, > Jakob > > Am 23.11.11 22:05, schrieb Dave Scott: >> Hi, >> >> I believe Jon's advice in this earlier thread is still valid: >> >> http://old-list-archives.xen.org/archives/html/xen-api/2011-02/msg00066.html >> >> FYI in later xapi builds a "xe host-forget" followed by a "service xapi restart" would also fix it. >> >> HTH, >> Dave >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-api- >>> bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Jakob Praher >>> Sent: 23 November 2011 19:37 >>> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com >>> Subject: [Xen-API] Fwd: Issue XCP 1.1: Shared LVM SR - unavailable host >>> leaves VDI attached RW (xe vdi-introduce not available) >>> >>> Dear list, >>> >>> We observed the following issue in conjunction w/ XCP 1.1 which is a >>> _severe_ problem. >>> >>> Our environment: >>> - Two XCP 1.1 hosts in the same resource pool >>> - Shared LVM based storage repository based on DRBD >>> - VMs running on both systems stored on the shared SR >>> >>> If suddenly one host dies unexpectedly (e.g. hardware defect, power >>> issue) the metadata still assumes the VMs that were running on the >>> unavailable host are in power-state running. >>> >>> After ensuring the master to be the still available host and manually >>> resetting the power-state of the VMs running on the unavailable host we >>> faced the following problem: >>> >>> - The VDI state was still readwrite attached allthough the whole host >>> was unavailable. This also preserved when we made the system to forget >>> the unavailable host. >>> >>> - Even worse "xe vdi-introduce" does not work since it is not >>> supported >>> by the LVM backend. All other tricks even snapshotting the disk does >>> not >>> work, since XAPI tries to contact the dead host and this fails. >>> >>> The problem is that as long the host is down for maintenance the VMs >>> are >>> in a defective state! >>> >>> What is the way out of this dilemma? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Jakob >>> >>> P.S.: I have not only restarted xapi but also the available host. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xen-api mailing list >>> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >>> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 05 22:59:27 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:59:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXhVE-000438-PG; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:59:16 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXhVD-000433-5M for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:59:15 +0000 X-Env-Sender: blp@cs.stanford.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323125882!55494147!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.13.148.104] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 10351 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2011 22:58:02 -0000 Received: from outmail148104.authsmtp.com (HELO outmail148104.authsmtp.com) (62.13.148.104) by server-9.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2011 22:58:02 -0000 Received: from mail-c194.authsmtp.com (mail-c194.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.121]) by punt9.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Kp) with ESMTP id pB5MwY2U045411 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:58:34 GMT Received: from blp.benpfaff.org (76-14-48-202.sf-cable.astound.net [76.14.48.202] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id pB5MwV7O038715 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:58:32 GMT Received: from blp by blp.benpfaff.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXhQH-00080M-BC for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:54:09 -0800 From: Ben Pfaff To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:54:09 -0800 Message-ID: <87pqg2hbou.fsf@blp.benpfaff.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Server-Quench: a7f81c62-1f94-11e1-80b9-0022640b883e X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdwYQ8QAVZfSBwy AThCFzNJTwsiPBEK DBMeOxtXJh8ATQV5 NkdBMkEVIFAaXlZE QTVeRQcLDRNxXHwB PllObwVcY1pMXQ9v WEJKQRxVEhtpBQIF DgAcUhttdQBEfWFx KwYQWw0cOkMFdUV1 RU9RW2wObGcuOWdJ WEELcQFJcVVDegJE awV+SXsNM2waZnpi RVFvZzphbW5SPjtV TxsAZVMJCVoLE3Ys ShZHETQ0AQgCTCw2 K1Q8J0YbB0cNNV8j ZjPi X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633331373532.1015:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Subject: [Xen-API] where is the xen-dist-ocaml repository? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ben Pfaff List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Where is the xen-dist-ocaml repository? http://xen.org/products/xcp/repositories.html directs me to http://xenbits.xen.org/xapi/xen-dist-ocaml.hg, which says: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /xapi/xen-dist-ocaml.hg on this server. http://xen.org/products/cloud_source.html also directs me to the same broken URL. Thanks, Ben. -- Ben Pfaff http://benpfaff.org _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 05 22:59:27 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:59:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXhVE-000438-PG; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:59:16 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXhVD-000433-5M for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:59:15 +0000 X-Env-Sender: blp@cs.stanford.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323125882!55494147!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.13.148.104] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 10351 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2011 22:58:02 -0000 Received: from outmail148104.authsmtp.com (HELO outmail148104.authsmtp.com) (62.13.148.104) by server-9.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2011 22:58:02 -0000 Received: from mail-c194.authsmtp.com (mail-c194.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.121]) by punt9.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Kp) with ESMTP id pB5MwY2U045411 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:58:34 GMT Received: from blp.benpfaff.org (76-14-48-202.sf-cable.astound.net [76.14.48.202] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id pB5MwV7O038715 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:58:32 GMT Received: from blp by blp.benpfaff.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXhQH-00080M-BC for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:54:09 -0800 From: Ben Pfaff To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:54:09 -0800 Message-ID: <87pqg2hbou.fsf@blp.benpfaff.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Server-Quench: a7f81c62-1f94-11e1-80b9-0022640b883e X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdwYQ8QAVZfSBwy AThCFzNJTwsiPBEK DBMeOxtXJh8ATQV5 NkdBMkEVIFAaXlZE QTVeRQcLDRNxXHwB PllObwVcY1pMXQ9v WEJKQRxVEhtpBQIF DgAcUhttdQBEfWFx KwYQWw0cOkMFdUV1 RU9RW2wObGcuOWdJ WEELcQFJcVVDegJE awV+SXsNM2waZnpi RVFvZzphbW5SPjtV TxsAZVMJCVoLE3Ys ShZHETQ0AQgCTCw2 K1Q8J0YbB0cNNV8j ZjPi X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633331373532.1015:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Subject: [Xen-API] where is the xen-dist-ocaml repository? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ben Pfaff List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Where is the xen-dist-ocaml repository? http://xen.org/products/xcp/repositories.html directs me to http://xenbits.xen.org/xapi/xen-dist-ocaml.hg, which says: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /xapi/xen-dist-ocaml.hg on this server. http://xen.org/products/cloud_source.html also directs me to the same broken URL. Thanks, Ben. -- Ben Pfaff http://benpfaff.org _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 09:30:08 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:30:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYaIf-0007rH-TS; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:29:57 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYaId-0007qZ-Pi; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:29:55 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323336546!6649833!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMDYxNDU=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19071 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 09:29:07 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-8.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 09:29:07 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,319,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="19772136" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 08 Dec 2011 04:29:06 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 04:29:05 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 09:29:04 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Enzo Lombardi References: In-Reply-To: Cc: "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP 1.5 availability X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com (Added xen-api list to CC.) On 06/12/11 19:57, Enzo Lombardi wrote: > Is there any nightly build, dev build, morning build of XCP 1.5? > I saw a message mentioning "end of September", what happened to this > release? What is the delay and what does the schedule looks like? Hi Enzo, We had hoped for a September beta at one point, but clearly this hasn't happened. We're currently aiming for a January alpha release. The delays have been due to our focus on Project Kronos, where we are porting the XCP toolstack to run on Debian and Ubuntu. The core XCP team consists of only two people, and Kronos turned out to be quite a time consuming project. At the same time, we are still committed to providing the traditional XCP "appliance", as well as XCP on Debian and Ubuntu. The problem with the XCP appliance and it's slow releases is mainly due to our internal build system. In the past, the XCP team has had to do a lot of manual work to convert each XenServer release into an XCP release. Over the last year we have been tweaking our build system, and parts of our toolstack code, to do this work for us. The last bits of this work are almost complete. Once they are complete, we will be able to start providing regular development snapshots of XCP, and will be able to provide a more regular release cadence. Until this work is complete, we don't feel that it would be worthwhile to release an alpha of XCP 1.5, because we know it will be broken, due to the incompleteness of our build system and toolstack changes. I'm sorry again for the delay to XCP 1.5. We hope that the work we're doing pays off in that future releases won't be so delayed, and development snapshots will finally be possible. Thanks for the continued interest in XCP. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 09:30:08 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:30:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYaIf-0007rH-TS; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:29:57 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYaId-0007qZ-Pi; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:29:55 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323336546!6649833!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMDYxNDU=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19071 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 09:29:07 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-8.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 09:29:07 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,319,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="19772136" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 08 Dec 2011 04:29:06 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 04:29:05 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 09:29:04 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Enzo Lombardi References: In-Reply-To: Cc: "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP 1.5 availability X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com (Added xen-api list to CC.) On 06/12/11 19:57, Enzo Lombardi wrote: > Is there any nightly build, dev build, morning build of XCP 1.5? > I saw a message mentioning "end of September", what happened to this > release? What is the delay and what does the schedule looks like? Hi Enzo, We had hoped for a September beta at one point, but clearly this hasn't happened. We're currently aiming for a January alpha release. The delays have been due to our focus on Project Kronos, where we are porting the XCP toolstack to run on Debian and Ubuntu. The core XCP team consists of only two people, and Kronos turned out to be quite a time consuming project. At the same time, we are still committed to providing the traditional XCP "appliance", as well as XCP on Debian and Ubuntu. The problem with the XCP appliance and it's slow releases is mainly due to our internal build system. In the past, the XCP team has had to do a lot of manual work to convert each XenServer release into an XCP release. Over the last year we have been tweaking our build system, and parts of our toolstack code, to do this work for us. The last bits of this work are almost complete. Once they are complete, we will be able to start providing regular development snapshots of XCP, and will be able to provide a more regular release cadence. Until this work is complete, we don't feel that it would be worthwhile to release an alpha of XCP 1.5, because we know it will be broken, due to the incompleteness of our build system and toolstack changes. I'm sorry again for the delay to XCP 1.5. We hope that the work we're doing pays off in that future releases won't be so delayed, and development snapshots will finally be possible. Thanks for the continued interest in XCP. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 09:40:49 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:40:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYaT3-0000ZN-VZ; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:40:41 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYaT2-0000Z0-0P; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:40:40 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323337157!47039248!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMTk4MjA=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21646 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 09:39:19 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 09:39:19 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,319,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="173368341" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 08 Dec 2011 04:39:54 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 04:39:26 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE085CD.3090009@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 09:39:25 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Admin@DotComPower.com" References: <06E9356D729A4D2E855E97128AB8E8B6@COMMATRIX> In-Reply-To: <06E9356D729A4D2E855E97128AB8E8B6@COMMATRIX> Cc: "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP Debi an - ISCSI support? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com (Added xen-api list as CC) On 07/12/11 04:42, Admin@DotComPower.com wrote: > I have Kronos setup fine. I have installed open-iscsi and setup the system > as an initiator. However, I cannot seem to get xapi to allow me to setup the > target as an SR. I was trying to use XenCenter but go nowhere. So I tried > adding it manually and here is what I got: > > OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory > > Does the current xapi have remote SR capability built into it yet? > iSCSI SR built in? Yes. Working? Apparently not. We haven't tested this SR type yet, and it seems that you've found a bug for us. Thanks! The "No such file" error makes me hopeful that this will be trivia one to fix, but I'll have to repro this myself before I know. > If not, is it possible to set the SR as LVM and have it set to share=true so > that I can still have the benefits of live migrations etc? > Yes, that should be possible. NFS is the SR that we've tested the most so far. Let us know how this works for you. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 09:40:49 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:40:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYaT3-0000ZN-VZ; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:40:41 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYaT2-0000Z0-0P; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:40:40 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323337157!47039248!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMTk4MjA=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21646 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 09:39:19 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 09:39:19 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,319,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="173368341" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 08 Dec 2011 04:39:54 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 04:39:26 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE085CD.3090009@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 09:39:25 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Admin@DotComPower.com" References: <06E9356D729A4D2E855E97128AB8E8B6@COMMATRIX> In-Reply-To: <06E9356D729A4D2E855E97128AB8E8B6@COMMATRIX> Cc: "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP Debi an - ISCSI support? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com (Added xen-api list as CC) On 07/12/11 04:42, Admin@DotComPower.com wrote: > I have Kronos setup fine. I have installed open-iscsi and setup the system > as an initiator. However, I cannot seem to get xapi to allow me to setup the > target as an SR. I was trying to use XenCenter but go nowhere. So I tried > adding it manually and here is what I got: > > OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory > > Does the current xapi have remote SR capability built into it yet? > iSCSI SR built in? Yes. Working? Apparently not. We haven't tested this SR type yet, and it seems that you've found a bug for us. Thanks! The "No such file" error makes me hopeful that this will be trivia one to fix, but I'll have to repro this myself before I know. > If not, is it possible to set the SR as LVM and have it set to share=true so > that I can still have the benefits of live migrations etc? > Yes, that should be possible. NFS is the SR that we've tested the most so far. Let us know how this works for you. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 10:09:19 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 10:09:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYauf-000283-FX; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 10:09:13 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYaue-00027j-6p for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 10:09:12 +0000 X-Env-Sender: scottz@wi.rr.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323338854!59921831!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.74.56.122] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNzEuNzQuNTYuMTIyID0+IDM5ODMxMg==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16336 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 10:07:34 -0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (HELO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (71.74.56.122) by server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 10:07:34 -0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=FIuZNpUs c=1 sm=0 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:17 a=akDsyBIaq0wA:10 a=pMetabgOHOUA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=nl45iCTt2bJ4frPV5q4A:9 a=BJ-46y03xJKAhxN6pM0A:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.56.78.150 Received: from [24.56.78.150] ([24.56.78.150:60249] helo=111.red-80-38-100.staticip.rima-tde.net) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 8C/70-13672-79C80EE4; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 10:08:23 +0000 Message-ID: <4EE08C97.7040408@wi.rr.com> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 04:08:23 -0600 From: Scott Zupek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: [Xen-API] XCP really a VMWARE ESXi alternative? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com I started trying with Xen Hypervisor (to run a small business(10 users) mail (citadel) server, win 2k8 domain controller, web server (apache2 on debian 2 or 3 domains) and remote support server (debian, w/ gnome)). Though the documentation was weak for just Hypervisor I was able to get it running on top of Debian, but it was useless because I didn't have a way to manage the host. (xen center, etc). it seems that the entire xen center application program is lacking support even on the paid Xen side.. I wanted to switch to XEN because it's more open source than VMWare and I heard the performance is unbeatable. But instead I ended up with XCP Hypervisor (which still uses core xen hypervisor, correct?) and now it seems, what shouldn't be much of burden on the systems, is a massive burden on the systems. And I am left with nowhere to really turn to. My 1 hosted domain takes 1.5 minutes to load half my super easy company webpage from the internet and it FLY's on the intranet. Is there some webpage that can help people that want to be able to diagnose actual issues? Can't run the monitor/graph page in xencenter because it fails due to some missing plug-in (im guessing since it actually doesnt say). Now a lot of this could be chalked up to my lack of Linux experience but it seems like I would be the core audience (small i.t. consulting business owner trying to make a name and lead by example) and the whole thing ended up getting so confusing that XCP ISO /XCP core hypervisor was the only option left. this isn't what I wanted, but it was the only way I could get my servers online. Was this how this whole process is intended? I can't tell if XCP Hypervisor core thingy (looks just like the vmware esxi hypervisor) is the main focus, if Kronos is the main focus or running the Xen Hypervisor as a software app on a Debian/Linux cli is the main focus. Could be just me, but shouldn't this be determined first before even 1 line of code is looked into? I don't mean to be a debby downer, it just seems like all 3 are bound to fail because no time is dedicated to a "core" belief/program. I just saw a post regarding Kronos and if that is taking most of the developers time, it makes me think I went the wrong direction with XCP. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 10:09:19 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 10:09:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYauf-000283-FX; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 10:09:13 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYaue-00027j-6p for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 10:09:12 +0000 X-Env-Sender: scottz@wi.rr.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323338854!59921831!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.74.56.122] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNzEuNzQuNTYuMTIyID0+IDM5ODMxMg==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16336 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 10:07:34 -0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (HELO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (71.74.56.122) by server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 10:07:34 -0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=FIuZNpUs c=1 sm=0 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:17 a=akDsyBIaq0wA:10 a=pMetabgOHOUA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=nl45iCTt2bJ4frPV5q4A:9 a=BJ-46y03xJKAhxN6pM0A:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.56.78.150 Received: from [24.56.78.150] ([24.56.78.150:60249] helo=111.red-80-38-100.staticip.rima-tde.net) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 8C/70-13672-79C80EE4; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 10:08:23 +0000 Message-ID: <4EE08C97.7040408@wi.rr.com> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 04:08:23 -0600 From: Scott Zupek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: [Xen-API] XCP really a VMWARE ESXi alternative? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com I started trying with Xen Hypervisor (to run a small business(10 users) mail (citadel) server, win 2k8 domain controller, web server (apache2 on debian 2 or 3 domains) and remote support server (debian, w/ gnome)). Though the documentation was weak for just Hypervisor I was able to get it running on top of Debian, but it was useless because I didn't have a way to manage the host. (xen center, etc). it seems that the entire xen center application program is lacking support even on the paid Xen side.. I wanted to switch to XEN because it's more open source than VMWare and I heard the performance is unbeatable. But instead I ended up with XCP Hypervisor (which still uses core xen hypervisor, correct?) and now it seems, what shouldn't be much of burden on the systems, is a massive burden on the systems. And I am left with nowhere to really turn to. My 1 hosted domain takes 1.5 minutes to load half my super easy company webpage from the internet and it FLY's on the intranet. Is there some webpage that can help people that want to be able to diagnose actual issues? Can't run the monitor/graph page in xencenter because it fails due to some missing plug-in (im guessing since it actually doesnt say). Now a lot of this could be chalked up to my lack of Linux experience but it seems like I would be the core audience (small i.t. consulting business owner trying to make a name and lead by example) and the whole thing ended up getting so confusing that XCP ISO /XCP core hypervisor was the only option left. this isn't what I wanted, but it was the only way I could get my servers online. Was this how this whole process is intended? I can't tell if XCP Hypervisor core thingy (looks just like the vmware esxi hypervisor) is the main focus, if Kronos is the main focus or running the Xen Hypervisor as a software app on a Debian/Linux cli is the main focus. Could be just me, but shouldn't this be determined first before even 1 line of code is looked into? I don't mean to be a debby downer, it just seems like all 3 are bound to fail because no time is dedicated to a "core" belief/program. I just saw a post regarding Kronos and if that is taking most of the developers time, it makes me think I went the wrong direction with XCP. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 12:00:27 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:00:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYceB-0003yy-9T; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:00:19 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYceA-0003yU-BN for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:00:18 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323345460!55353802!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMTk4MjA=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 29808 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 11:57:41 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-8.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 11:57:41 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,319,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="173379651" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 08 Dec 2011 06:59:28 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 06:59:28 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE0A69F.6090709@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 11:59:27 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Zupek References: <4EE08C97.7040408@wi.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE08C97.7040408@wi.rr.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XCP really a VMWARE ESXi alternative? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 08/12/11 10:08, Scott Zupek wrote: > I started trying with Xen Hypervisor (to run a small business(10 users) > mail (citadel) server, win 2k8 domain controller, web server (apache2 on > debian 2 or 3 domains) and remote support server (debian, w/ gnome)). Since a lot of your email mentions confusion between the different Xen variants, I'll start by quickly explaining the differences. - Xen: this is the Xen hypervisor, the thing that makes virtualization possible. It is analogous to an operating system kernel, such as Linux. - XenServer: this is Citrix's paid-for Xen-based product. It uses the Xen hypervisor, much in the same way that Debian "uses" the Linux kernel. It also includes many nice management features, most open source and some paid-for. - XCP: this is exactly XenServer, except only the open source bits. It makes the most sense to think of Xen as a being like the Linux kernel, and to thing of XenServer, XCP, or Oracle's VM platform as being different distributions that use the Xen hypervisor. > Though the documentation was weak for just Hypervisor I was able to get > it running on top of Debian, but it was useless because I didn't have a > way to manage the host. (xen center, etc). it seems that the entire xen > center application program is lacking support even on the paid Xen > side.. XenCenter is a Citrix product that is intended for use with XenServer, and not necessarily with XCP. The XenCenter team is working to fix a few issues with XCP/XenCenter integration, and hopefully we'll have better integration with the XenCenter 6.1 release. XenCenter does have good support on the "paid Xen side," which means that if you give Citrix money for XenServer, they will give you support for XenCenter and XenServer. > I wanted to switch to XEN because it's more open source than > VMWare and I heard the performance is unbeatable. But instead I ended > up with XCP Hypervisor (which still uses core xen hypervisor, correct?) Yes, see above. > and now it seems, what shouldn't be much of burden on the systems, is a > massive burden on the systems. And I am left with nowhere to really turn > to. My 1 hosted domain takes 1.5 minutes to load half my super easy > company webpage from the internet and it FLY's on the intranet. Is > there some webpage that can help people that want to be able to diagnose > actual issues? This does sound like a configuration issue. You should have a look at the XCP network throughput guide for more details: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Network_Throughput_Guide > Can't run the monitor/graph page in xencenter because it > fails due to some missing plug-in (im guessing since it actually doesnt > say). Not a missing plugin. XenCenter was meant for use with XenServer; to XenCenter, XCP looks like an ancient version of XenServer, and that tab doesn't handle the error very well. Try creating the file /etc/xapi_version_override and setting its contents to "5.6.100" (without the quotes). This is a mostly-undocumented hack to let XCP fake it's version number. > Now a lot of this could be chalked up to my lack of Linux experience but > it seems like I would be the core audience (small i.t. consulting > business owner trying to make a name and lead by example) and the whole > thing ended up getting so confusing that XCP ISO /XCP core hypervisor > was the only option left. this isn't what I wanted, but it was the only > way I could get my servers online. Was this how this whole process is > intended? I can't tell if XCP Hypervisor core thingy (looks just like > the vmware esxi hypervisor) is the main focus, if Kronos is the main > focus or running the Xen Hypervisor as a software app on a Debian/Linux > cli is the main focus. Could be just me, but shouldn't this be > determined first before even 1 line of code is looked into? I don't > mean to be a debby downer, it just seems like all 3 are bound to fail > because no time is dedicated to a "core" belief/program. The "core" program is the Xen hypervisor, and there is a strong dedication to this. Continuing the Linux kernel vs distro analogy, this is akin to wanting there to be only one Linux distro, instead of the dozens we have today (Debian, Ubuntu, RHEL, SUSE, etc.). The idea is that you've got many options available to you, not that there is no focus. I'm not trying to say that you're wrong for feeling this way, though. This issue is something that comes up continually on the mailing lists and IRC channels with new Xen users. It can be quite confusing. The Xen community has recently tried to address this issue by creating better documentation, and we've recently had two Xen Doc Days to inspire people to write more documentation. It's a slow process though, and we've got a lot of work left. > I just saw a post regarding Kronos and if that is taking most of the > developers time, it makes me think I went the wrong direction with XCP. I hope that this is not the case, but I understand where you're coming from. We want to give people many different options for using Xen and XCP, and we want to make it easier for people to adopt XCP and it's XenAPI toolstack. Because of this, we decided to allow people to install the XCP toolstack on top of Debian and Ubuntu (and hopefully other distros as well). This effort also helps XenServer and XCP run on the upstream Linux kernel and Xen hypervisor, and will hopefully make both products stronger in the long-term. As I said in a previous email, from which I believe you're quoting, we're still committed to the original XCP appliance, and are working to make that even better too. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 12:00:27 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:00:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYceB-0003yy-9T; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:00:19 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYceA-0003yU-BN for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:00:18 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323345460!55353802!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMTk4MjA=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 29808 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 11:57:41 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-8.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 11:57:41 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,319,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="173379651" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 08 Dec 2011 06:59:28 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 06:59:28 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE0A69F.6090709@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 11:59:27 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Zupek References: <4EE08C97.7040408@wi.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE08C97.7040408@wi.rr.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XCP really a VMWARE ESXi alternative? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 08/12/11 10:08, Scott Zupek wrote: > I started trying with Xen Hypervisor (to run a small business(10 users) > mail (citadel) server, win 2k8 domain controller, web server (apache2 on > debian 2 or 3 domains) and remote support server (debian, w/ gnome)). Since a lot of your email mentions confusion between the different Xen variants, I'll start by quickly explaining the differences. - Xen: this is the Xen hypervisor, the thing that makes virtualization possible. It is analogous to an operating system kernel, such as Linux. - XenServer: this is Citrix's paid-for Xen-based product. It uses the Xen hypervisor, much in the same way that Debian "uses" the Linux kernel. It also includes many nice management features, most open source and some paid-for. - XCP: this is exactly XenServer, except only the open source bits. It makes the most sense to think of Xen as a being like the Linux kernel, and to thing of XenServer, XCP, or Oracle's VM platform as being different distributions that use the Xen hypervisor. > Though the documentation was weak for just Hypervisor I was able to get > it running on top of Debian, but it was useless because I didn't have a > way to manage the host. (xen center, etc). it seems that the entire xen > center application program is lacking support even on the paid Xen > side.. XenCenter is a Citrix product that is intended for use with XenServer, and not necessarily with XCP. The XenCenter team is working to fix a few issues with XCP/XenCenter integration, and hopefully we'll have better integration with the XenCenter 6.1 release. XenCenter does have good support on the "paid Xen side," which means that if you give Citrix money for XenServer, they will give you support for XenCenter and XenServer. > I wanted to switch to XEN because it's more open source than > VMWare and I heard the performance is unbeatable. But instead I ended > up with XCP Hypervisor (which still uses core xen hypervisor, correct?) Yes, see above. > and now it seems, what shouldn't be much of burden on the systems, is a > massive burden on the systems. And I am left with nowhere to really turn > to. My 1 hosted domain takes 1.5 minutes to load half my super easy > company webpage from the internet and it FLY's on the intranet. Is > there some webpage that can help people that want to be able to diagnose > actual issues? This does sound like a configuration issue. You should have a look at the XCP network throughput guide for more details: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Network_Throughput_Guide > Can't run the monitor/graph page in xencenter because it > fails due to some missing plug-in (im guessing since it actually doesnt > say). Not a missing plugin. XenCenter was meant for use with XenServer; to XenCenter, XCP looks like an ancient version of XenServer, and that tab doesn't handle the error very well. Try creating the file /etc/xapi_version_override and setting its contents to "5.6.100" (without the quotes). This is a mostly-undocumented hack to let XCP fake it's version number. > Now a lot of this could be chalked up to my lack of Linux experience but > it seems like I would be the core audience (small i.t. consulting > business owner trying to make a name and lead by example) and the whole > thing ended up getting so confusing that XCP ISO /XCP core hypervisor > was the only option left. this isn't what I wanted, but it was the only > way I could get my servers online. Was this how this whole process is > intended? I can't tell if XCP Hypervisor core thingy (looks just like > the vmware esxi hypervisor) is the main focus, if Kronos is the main > focus or running the Xen Hypervisor as a software app on a Debian/Linux > cli is the main focus. Could be just me, but shouldn't this be > determined first before even 1 line of code is looked into? I don't > mean to be a debby downer, it just seems like all 3 are bound to fail > because no time is dedicated to a "core" belief/program. The "core" program is the Xen hypervisor, and there is a strong dedication to this. Continuing the Linux kernel vs distro analogy, this is akin to wanting there to be only one Linux distro, instead of the dozens we have today (Debian, Ubuntu, RHEL, SUSE, etc.). The idea is that you've got many options available to you, not that there is no focus. I'm not trying to say that you're wrong for feeling this way, though. This issue is something that comes up continually on the mailing lists and IRC channels with new Xen users. It can be quite confusing. The Xen community has recently tried to address this issue by creating better documentation, and we've recently had two Xen Doc Days to inspire people to write more documentation. It's a slow process though, and we've got a lot of work left. > I just saw a post regarding Kronos and if that is taking most of the > developers time, it makes me think I went the wrong direction with XCP. I hope that this is not the case, but I understand where you're coming from. We want to give people many different options for using Xen and XCP, and we want to make it easier for people to adopt XCP and it's XenAPI toolstack. Because of this, we decided to allow people to install the XCP toolstack on top of Debian and Ubuntu (and hopefully other distros as well). This effort also helps XenServer and XCP run on the upstream Linux kernel and Xen hypervisor, and will hopefully make both products stronger in the long-term. As I said in a previous email, from which I believe you're quoting, we're still committed to the original XCP appliance, and are working to make that even better too. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 13:03:00 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 13:03:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYdch-0004oA-ET; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 13:02:51 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYdcg-0004nv-7Y for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 13:02:50 +0000 X-Env-Sender: double-u@secretpanda.net X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323349321!6670604!1 X-Originating-IP: [178.18.19.164] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 4533 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 13:02:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO secretpanda.net) (178.18.19.164) by server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 13:02:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (228.60-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.60.228]) by secretpanda.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4D20C1446E; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 08:02:01 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from butters.w-gr.net ([172.16.1.1]) by liane (JAMES SMTP Server ) with ESMTPA ID 317296198; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 14:02:06 +0100 (CET) From: Double-U In-Reply-To: <4EE085CD.3090009@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 14:01:56 +0100 Message-Id: References: <06E9356D729A4D2E855E97128AB8E8B6@COMMATRIX> <4EE085CD.3090009@citrix.com> To: Mike McClurg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP Debian - ISCSI support? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi, I've been running into this bug as well. Creating a plain iSCSI SR, Ext-over-iSCSI and LVM-over-iSCSI all give the error mentioned. I'll be happy to test any fixes (I am using the debian packages, xapi-autobuilder didn't treat me well). Kind regards, W On 08 Dec 2011, at 10:39, Mike McClurg wrote: > (Added xen-api list as CC) > > On 07/12/11 04:42, Admin@DotComPower.com wrote: >> I have Kronos setup fine. I have installed open-iscsi and setup the system >> as an initiator. However, I cannot seem to get xapi to allow me to setup the >> target as an SR. I was trying to use XenCenter but go nowhere. So I tried >> adding it manually and here is what I got: >> > >> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory >> >> Does the current xapi have remote SR capability built into it yet? >> > > iSCSI SR built in? Yes. Working? Apparently not. We haven't tested this > SR type yet, and it seems that you've found a bug for us. Thanks! > > The "No such file" error makes me hopeful that this will be trivia one > to fix, but I'll have to repro this myself before I know. > >> If not, is it possible to set the SR as LVM and have it set to share=true so >> that I can still have the benefits of live migrations etc? >> > > Yes, that should be possible. NFS is the SR that we've tested the most > so far. Let us know how this works for you. > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 13:03:00 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 13:03:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYdch-0004oA-ET; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 13:02:51 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYdcg-0004nv-7Y for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 13:02:50 +0000 X-Env-Sender: double-u@secretpanda.net X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323349321!6670604!1 X-Originating-IP: [178.18.19.164] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 4533 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 13:02:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO secretpanda.net) (178.18.19.164) by server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 13:02:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (228.60-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.60.228]) by secretpanda.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4D20C1446E; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 08:02:01 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from butters.w-gr.net ([172.16.1.1]) by liane (JAMES SMTP Server ) with ESMTPA ID 317296198; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 14:02:06 +0100 (CET) From: Double-U In-Reply-To: <4EE085CD.3090009@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 14:01:56 +0100 Message-Id: References: <06E9356D729A4D2E855E97128AB8E8B6@COMMATRIX> <4EE085CD.3090009@citrix.com> To: Mike McClurg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP Debian - ISCSI support? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi, I've been running into this bug as well. Creating a plain iSCSI SR, Ext-over-iSCSI and LVM-over-iSCSI all give the error mentioned. I'll be happy to test any fixes (I am using the debian packages, xapi-autobuilder didn't treat me well). Kind regards, W On 08 Dec 2011, at 10:39, Mike McClurg wrote: > (Added xen-api list as CC) > > On 07/12/11 04:42, Admin@DotComPower.com wrote: >> I have Kronos setup fine. I have installed open-iscsi and setup the system >> as an initiator. However, I cannot seem to get xapi to allow me to setup the >> target as an SR. I was trying to use XenCenter but go nowhere. So I tried >> adding it manually and here is what I got: >> > >> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory >> >> Does the current xapi have remote SR capability built into it yet? >> > > iSCSI SR built in? Yes. Working? Apparently not. We haven't tested this > SR type yet, and it seems that you've found a bug for us. Thanks! > > The "No such file" error makes me hopeful that this will be trivia one > to fix, but I'll have to repro this myself before I know. > >> If not, is it possible to set the SR as LVM and have it set to share=true so >> that I can still have the benefits of live migrations etc? >> > > Yes, that should be possible. NFS is the SR that we've tested the most > so far. Let us know how this works for you. > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 14:57:50 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:57:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYfPq-0007gS-FU; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:57:42 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYfPo-0007g9-PZ for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:57:40 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1323356211!5492969!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMDQzMDM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 7167 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 14:56:52 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-13.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 14:56:52 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,320,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="19780721" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 08 Dec 2011 09:56:50 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 09:56:50 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE0D031.6060508@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 14:56:49 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Double-U References: <06E9356D729A4D2E855E97128AB8E8B6@COMMATRIX> <4EE085CD.3090009@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP Debian - ISCSI support? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com First of all, let me say that I don't think that the iSCSI SR will work, for other, unrelated reasons. Second of all, I've found the reason for this particular failure: the multipath tools are trying to call /sbin/pidof, when they should be calling /bin/pidof. If you want to get past this error, but likely encounter other, more sinister errors, edit the file /usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/sm/mpath_dmp.py, line 46, and change /sbin/pidof to /bin/pidof. You may also have to do 'apt-get install multipath-tools' -- the xcp-storage-managers package doesn't yet depend on it properly. Third, let me reiterate that this probably won't work even with the fix, so give this a try only if you're curious. We'll probably be disabling all but a small number of known-to-work SRs very shortly. Mike On 08/12/11 13:01, Double-U wrote: > Hi, > > I've been running into this bug as well. Creating a plain iSCSI SR, Ext-over-iSCSI and LVM-over-iSCSI all give the error mentioned. > I'll be happy to test any fixes (I am using the debian packages, xapi-autobuilder didn't treat me well). > > Kind regards, > W > > On 08 Dec 2011, at 10:39, Mike McClurg wrote: > >> (Added xen-api list as CC) >> >> On 07/12/11 04:42, Admin@DotComPower.com wrote: >>> I have Kronos setup fine. I have installed open-iscsi and setup the system >>> as an initiator. However, I cannot seem to get xapi to allow me to setup the >>> target as an SR. I was trying to use XenCenter but go nowhere. So I tried >>> adding it manually and here is what I got: >>> >> >>> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory >>> >>> Does the current xapi have remote SR capability built into it yet? >>> >> >> iSCSI SR built in? Yes. Working? Apparently not. We haven't tested this >> SR type yet, and it seems that you've found a bug for us. Thanks! >> >> The "No such file" error makes me hopeful that this will be trivia one >> to fix, but I'll have to repro this myself before I know. >> >>> If not, is it possible to set the SR as LVM and have it set to share=true so >>> that I can still have the benefits of live migrations etc? >>> >> >> Yes, that should be possible. NFS is the SR that we've tested the most >> so far. Let us know how this works for you. >> >> Mike >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 14:57:50 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:57:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYfPq-0007gS-FU; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:57:42 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYfPo-0007g9-PZ for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:57:40 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1323356211!5492969!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMDQzMDM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 7167 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 14:56:52 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-13.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 14:56:52 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,320,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="19780721" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 08 Dec 2011 09:56:50 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 09:56:50 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE0D031.6060508@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 14:56:49 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Double-U References: <06E9356D729A4D2E855E97128AB8E8B6@COMMATRIX> <4EE085CD.3090009@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP Debian - ISCSI support? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com First of all, let me say that I don't think that the iSCSI SR will work, for other, unrelated reasons. Second of all, I've found the reason for this particular failure: the multipath tools are trying to call /sbin/pidof, when they should be calling /bin/pidof. If you want to get past this error, but likely encounter other, more sinister errors, edit the file /usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/sm/mpath_dmp.py, line 46, and change /sbin/pidof to /bin/pidof. You may also have to do 'apt-get install multipath-tools' -- the xcp-storage-managers package doesn't yet depend on it properly. Third, let me reiterate that this probably won't work even with the fix, so give this a try only if you're curious. We'll probably be disabling all but a small number of known-to-work SRs very shortly. Mike On 08/12/11 13:01, Double-U wrote: > Hi, > > I've been running into this bug as well. Creating a plain iSCSI SR, Ext-over-iSCSI and LVM-over-iSCSI all give the error mentioned. > I'll be happy to test any fixes (I am using the debian packages, xapi-autobuilder didn't treat me well). > > Kind regards, > W > > On 08 Dec 2011, at 10:39, Mike McClurg wrote: > >> (Added xen-api list as CC) >> >> On 07/12/11 04:42, Admin@DotComPower.com wrote: >>> I have Kronos setup fine. I have installed open-iscsi and setup the system >>> as an initiator. However, I cannot seem to get xapi to allow me to setup the >>> target as an SR. I was trying to use XenCenter but go nowhere. So I tried >>> adding it manually and here is what I got: >>> >> >>> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory >>> >>> Does the current xapi have remote SR capability built into it yet? >>> >> >> iSCSI SR built in? Yes. Working? Apparently not. We haven't tested this >> SR type yet, and it seems that you've found a bug for us. Thanks! >> >> The "No such file" error makes me hopeful that this will be trivia one >> to fix, but I'll have to repro this myself before I know. >> >>> If not, is it possible to set the SR as LVM and have it set to share=true so >>> that I can still have the benefits of live migrations etc? >>> >> >> Yes, that should be possible. NFS is the SR that we've tested the most >> so far. Let us know how this works for you. >> >> Mike >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 20:37:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:37:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYkiT-0006Yv-AO; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:37:17 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYkiR-0006Yn-CH; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:37:15 +0000 X-Env-Sender: eduardo.terra@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323376582!6724480!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.161.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.7 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP, spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 31058 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 20:36:24 -0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-gx0-f171.google.com) (209.85.161.171) by server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 20:36:24 -0000 Received: by ggnh4 with SMTP id h4so5641489ggn.30 for ; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:36:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=njv+bIJs62LViz1AbfMxMRInKPKd/cc0ZCoIxQHlkkQ=; b=Yjabpg56XJpl97DhsjRqUl58fHlg0kmi+lCPl/znqUF0/WxmGL6ufoBSyCoKYiTW5m JUf9VJGQ26OCkGs/c8Xw74877EduSAcZ29LpIYu6yeXPDvn10KZS+J4ki9o2a8+yr9Dd hrUkqw7V3slnQhheEavnbpAHVEoHQeblXxAT8= Received: by 10.182.37.71 with SMTP id w7mr1016758obj.41.1323376580214; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:36:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.36.231 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 12:35:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> From: Carlos Eduardo Tavares Terra Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 18:35:59 -0200 Message-ID: To: Mike McClurg Cc: "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP 1.5 availability X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3054409895525063971==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============3054409895525063971== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9398f5bf7c11904b39a9e76 --14dae9398f5bf7c11904b39a9e76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mike, Project Kronos is going to be more 'actual' than XCP? Should I migrate from XCP to Kronos? Regards On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: > (Added xen-api list to CC.) > > On 06/12/11 19:57, Enzo Lombardi wrote: > > Is there any nightly build, dev build, morning build of XCP 1.5? > > I saw a message mentioning "end of September", what happened to this > > release? What is the delay and what does the schedule looks like? > > Hi Enzo, > > We had hoped for a September beta at one point, but clearly this hasn't > happened. We're currently aiming for a January alpha release. The delays > have been due to our focus on Project Kronos, where we are porting the > XCP toolstack to run on Debian and Ubuntu. The core XCP team consists of > only two people, and Kronos turned out to be quite a time consuming > project. At the same time, we are still committed to providing the > traditional XCP "appliance", as well as XCP on Debian and Ubuntu. > > The problem with the XCP appliance and it's slow releases is mainly due > to our internal build system. In the past, the XCP team has had to do a > lot of manual work to convert each XenServer release into an XCP > release. Over the last year we have been tweaking our build system, and > parts of our toolstack code, to do this work for us. > > The last bits of this work are almost complete. Once they are complete, > we will be able to start providing regular development snapshots of XCP, > and will be able to provide a more regular release cadence. Until this > work is complete, we don't feel that it would be worthwhile to release > an alpha of XCP 1.5, because we know it will be broken, due to the > incompleteness of our build system and toolstack changes. > > I'm sorry again for the delay to XCP 1.5. We hope that the work we're > doing pays off in that future releases won't be so delayed, and > development snapshots will finally be possible. Thanks for the continued > interest in XCP. > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > -- Carlos Eduardo Tavares Terra Red Hat Certified Engineer Consultor em Infraestrutura de TI GNU/Linux #413291 [http://counter.li.org] --14dae9398f5bf7c11904b39a9e76 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike,
Project Kronos is going to be more 'actual' than XCP? Shou= ld I migrate from XCP to Kronos?

Regards


On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Mike McClurg &= lt;mike.mcclurg@citrix.com&g= t; wrote:
(Added xen-api list to CC.)

On 06/12/11 19:57, Enzo Lombardi wrote:
> Is there any nightly build, dev build, morning build of XCP 1.5?
> I saw a message mentioning "end of September", what happened= to this
> release? What is the delay and what does the schedule looks like?

Hi Enzo,

We had hoped for a September beta at one point, but clearly this hasn't=
happened. We're currently aiming for a January alpha release. The delay= s
have been due to our focus on Project Kronos, where we are porting the
XCP toolstack to run on Debian and Ubuntu. The core XCP team consists of only two people, and Kronos turned out to be quite a time consuming
project. At the same time, we are still committed to providing the
traditional XCP "appliance", as well as XCP on Debian and Ubuntu.=

The problem with the XCP appliance and it's slow releases is mainly due=
to our internal build system. In the past, the XCP team has had to do a
lot of manual work to convert each XenServer release into an XCP
release. Over the last year we have been tweaking our build system, and
parts of our toolstack code, to do this work for us.

The last bits of this work are almost complete. Once they are complete,
we will be able to start providing regular development snapshots of XCP, and will be able to provide a more regular release cadence. Until this
work is complete, we don't feel that it would be worthwhile to release<= br> an alpha of XCP 1.5, because we know it will be broken, due to the
incompleteness of our build system and toolstack changes.

I'm sorry again for the delay to XCP 1.5. We hope that the work we'= re
doing pays off in that future releases won't be so delayed, and
development snapshots will finally be possible. Thanks for the continued interest in XCP.

Mike

_______________________________________________
Xen-users mailing list
Xen-users@lists.xensource.= com
http://l= ists.xensource.com/xen-users



--
Carlos Eduardo Tavares = Terra
Red Hat Certified Engineer
Consultor em Infraestrutura de TIGNU/Linux #413291 [htt= p://counter.li.org]
--14dae9398f5bf7c11904b39a9e76-- --===============3054409895525063971== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============3054409895525063971==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 20:37:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:37:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYkiT-0006Yv-AO; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:37:17 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYkiR-0006Yn-CH; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:37:15 +0000 X-Env-Sender: eduardo.terra@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323376582!6724480!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.161.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.7 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP, spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 31058 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 20:36:24 -0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-gx0-f171.google.com) (209.85.161.171) by server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 20:36:24 -0000 Received: by ggnh4 with SMTP id h4so5641489ggn.30 for ; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:36:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=njv+bIJs62LViz1AbfMxMRInKPKd/cc0ZCoIxQHlkkQ=; b=Yjabpg56XJpl97DhsjRqUl58fHlg0kmi+lCPl/znqUF0/WxmGL6ufoBSyCoKYiTW5m JUf9VJGQ26OCkGs/c8Xw74877EduSAcZ29LpIYu6yeXPDvn10KZS+J4ki9o2a8+yr9Dd hrUkqw7V3slnQhheEavnbpAHVEoHQeblXxAT8= Received: by 10.182.37.71 with SMTP id w7mr1016758obj.41.1323376580214; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:36:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.36.231 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 12:35:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> From: Carlos Eduardo Tavares Terra Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 18:35:59 -0200 Message-ID: To: Mike McClurg Cc: "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP 1.5 availability X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3054409895525063971==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============3054409895525063971== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9398f5bf7c11904b39a9e76 --14dae9398f5bf7c11904b39a9e76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mike, Project Kronos is going to be more 'actual' than XCP? Should I migrate from XCP to Kronos? Regards On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: > (Added xen-api list to CC.) > > On 06/12/11 19:57, Enzo Lombardi wrote: > > Is there any nightly build, dev build, morning build of XCP 1.5? > > I saw a message mentioning "end of September", what happened to this > > release? What is the delay and what does the schedule looks like? > > Hi Enzo, > > We had hoped for a September beta at one point, but clearly this hasn't > happened. We're currently aiming for a January alpha release. The delays > have been due to our focus on Project Kronos, where we are porting the > XCP toolstack to run on Debian and Ubuntu. The core XCP team consists of > only two people, and Kronos turned out to be quite a time consuming > project. At the same time, we are still committed to providing the > traditional XCP "appliance", as well as XCP on Debian and Ubuntu. > > The problem with the XCP appliance and it's slow releases is mainly due > to our internal build system. In the past, the XCP team has had to do a > lot of manual work to convert each XenServer release into an XCP > release. Over the last year we have been tweaking our build system, and > parts of our toolstack code, to do this work for us. > > The last bits of this work are almost complete. Once they are complete, > we will be able to start providing regular development snapshots of XCP, > and will be able to provide a more regular release cadence. Until this > work is complete, we don't feel that it would be worthwhile to release > an alpha of XCP 1.5, because we know it will be broken, due to the > incompleteness of our build system and toolstack changes. > > I'm sorry again for the delay to XCP 1.5. We hope that the work we're > doing pays off in that future releases won't be so delayed, and > development snapshots will finally be possible. Thanks for the continued > interest in XCP. > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > -- Carlos Eduardo Tavares Terra Red Hat Certified Engineer Consultor em Infraestrutura de TI GNU/Linux #413291 [http://counter.li.org] --14dae9398f5bf7c11904b39a9e76 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike,
Project Kronos is going to be more 'actual' than XCP? Shou= ld I migrate from XCP to Kronos?

Regards


On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Mike McClurg &= lt;mike.mcclurg@citrix.com&g= t; wrote:
(Added xen-api list to CC.)

On 06/12/11 19:57, Enzo Lombardi wrote:
> Is there any nightly build, dev build, morning build of XCP 1.5?
> I saw a message mentioning "end of September", what happened= to this
> release? What is the delay and what does the schedule looks like?

Hi Enzo,

We had hoped for a September beta at one point, but clearly this hasn't=
happened. We're currently aiming for a January alpha release. The delay= s
have been due to our focus on Project Kronos, where we are porting the
XCP toolstack to run on Debian and Ubuntu. The core XCP team consists of only two people, and Kronos turned out to be quite a time consuming
project. At the same time, we are still committed to providing the
traditional XCP "appliance", as well as XCP on Debian and Ubuntu.=

The problem with the XCP appliance and it's slow releases is mainly due=
to our internal build system. In the past, the XCP team has had to do a
lot of manual work to convert each XenServer release into an XCP
release. Over the last year we have been tweaking our build system, and
parts of our toolstack code, to do this work for us.

The last bits of this work are almost complete. Once they are complete,
we will be able to start providing regular development snapshots of XCP, and will be able to provide a more regular release cadence. Until this
work is complete, we don't feel that it would be worthwhile to release<= br> an alpha of XCP 1.5, because we know it will be broken, due to the
incompleteness of our build system and toolstack changes.

I'm sorry again for the delay to XCP 1.5. We hope that the work we'= re
doing pays off in that future releases won't be so delayed, and
development snapshots will finally be possible. Thanks for the continued interest in XCP.

Mike

_______________________________________________
Xen-users mailing list
Xen-users@lists.xensource.= com
http://l= ists.xensource.com/xen-users



--
Carlos Eduardo Tavares = Terra
Red Hat Certified Engineer
Consultor em Infraestrutura de TIGNU/Linux #413291 [htt= p://counter.li.org]
--14dae9398f5bf7c11904b39a9e76-- --===============3054409895525063971== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============3054409895525063971==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 22:12:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:12:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYmC5-0008Bj-Cf; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:11:57 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYmC3-0008Bb-Rc; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:11:56 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323382253!58207885!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMTk4MjA=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1272 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 22:10:54 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-15.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 22:10:54 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,322,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="173483655" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 08 Dec 2011 17:11:10 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 17:11:09 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE135FB.1020805@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 22:11:07 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carlos Eduardo Tavares Terra References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Cc: "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP 1.5 availability X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 08/12/11 20:35, Carlos Eduardo Tavares Terra wrote: > Mike, > Project Kronos is going to be more 'actual' than XCP? Should I migrate > from XCP to Kronos? > No, you should not migrate from the XCP appliance to Project Kronos, unless you have need to do so. Project Kronos is just an alternate delivery form for XCP. Currently, we consider it in beta form, and not all features of XCP are supported in Kronos yet. We expect that over the next year, the XCP appliance and XCP on Debian and Ubuntu will reach feature parity. The benefits of Kronos are that you have the option of keeping up with the development version of the XCP toolstack, and you get to install it on your distro of choice (well, as long as you choose either Debian or Ubuntu). The benefits of the XCP appliance are that it is an easy to install appliance, it is much closer to bit-for-bit parity with XenServer, and as such benefits from the intense testing that Citrix performs on XenServer. Neither one will be "better" than the other, but each has it's own distinct advantages over the other. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 22:12:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:12:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYmC5-0008Bj-Cf; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:11:57 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYmC3-0008Bb-Rc; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:11:56 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323382253!58207885!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMTk4MjA=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1272 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 22:10:54 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-15.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 22:10:54 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,322,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="173483655" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 08 Dec 2011 17:11:10 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 17:11:09 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE135FB.1020805@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 22:11:07 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carlos Eduardo Tavares Terra References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Cc: "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP 1.5 availability X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 08/12/11 20:35, Carlos Eduardo Tavares Terra wrote: > Mike, > Project Kronos is going to be more 'actual' than XCP? Should I migrate > from XCP to Kronos? > No, you should not migrate from the XCP appliance to Project Kronos, unless you have need to do so. Project Kronos is just an alternate delivery form for XCP. Currently, we consider it in beta form, and not all features of XCP are supported in Kronos yet. We expect that over the next year, the XCP appliance and XCP on Debian and Ubuntu will reach feature parity. The benefits of Kronos are that you have the option of keeping up with the development version of the XCP toolstack, and you get to install it on your distro of choice (well, as long as you choose either Debian or Ubuntu). The benefits of the XCP appliance are that it is an easy to install appliance, it is much closer to bit-for-bit parity with XenServer, and as such benefits from the intense testing that Citrix performs on XenServer. Neither one will be "better" than the other, but each has it's own distinct advantages over the other. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 22:18:22 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:18:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYmI8-0000A7-Vm; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:18:12 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYmI7-00009o-Ex; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:18:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1323382641!6422612!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMTg4MzQ=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19201 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 22:17:22 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-15.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 22:17:22 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,322,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="173484465" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 08 Dec 2011 17:17:20 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 17:17:20 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE1376F.6070901@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 22:17:19 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "enzinol@gmail.com" References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <8AB5D0253B124569B074D6E2308ADB22@Workstation7> In-Reply-To: <8AB5D0253B124569B074D6E2308ADB22@Workstation7> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Cc: "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP 1.5 availability X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 08/12/11 21:13, enzinol@gmail.com wrote: > Thank you Mike. > One more question: I am familiar with the wiki page about the differences > between XCP and XenServer. > I was wondering if one of the feature I care will be in Boston, i.e. the > support for GPU passthrough as exposed in XenServer. > My end goal is to consolidate in one fat box my workstation and server needs > and GPU passthrough is required. > Looking forward for the first bits to be available, thanks for your kind > answer > -e GPU passthrough will be included in XCP 1.5. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 22:18:22 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:18:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYmI8-0000A7-Vm; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:18:12 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYmI7-00009o-Ex; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:18:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1323382641!6422612!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMTg4MzQ=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19201 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 22:17:22 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-15.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 22:17:22 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,322,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="173484465" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 08 Dec 2011 17:17:20 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 17:17:20 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE1376F.6070901@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 22:17:19 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "enzinol@gmail.com" References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <8AB5D0253B124569B074D6E2308ADB22@Workstation7> In-Reply-To: <8AB5D0253B124569B074D6E2308ADB22@Workstation7> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Cc: "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP 1.5 availability X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 08/12/11 21:13, enzinol@gmail.com wrote: > Thank you Mike. > One more question: I am familiar with the wiki page about the differences > between XCP and XenServer. > I was wondering if one of the feature I care will be in Boston, i.e. the > support for GPU passthrough as exposed in XenServer. > My end goal is to consolidate in one fat box my workstation and server needs > and GPU passthrough is required. > Looking forward for the first bits to be available, thanks for your kind > answer > -e GPU passthrough will be included in XCP 1.5. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 22:23:20 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:23:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYmMy-0000cr-LV; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:23:12 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYmMx-0000cA-6v for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:23:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1323382941!7442340!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMTg4MzQ=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9981 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 22:22:22 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 22:22:22 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,322,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="173485097" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 08 Dec 2011 17:22:20 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 17:22:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE1389A.90702@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 22:22:18 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Subject: [Xen-API] Location of xen-dist-ocaml.hg repository X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi all, Someone with the nick blp asked on #xen-api for the location of xen-dist-ocaml.hg, but logged off before I could reply. Here it is, if he's out there: http://xenbits.xen.org/hg/XCP/xen-dist-ocaml.hg/ Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 08 22:23:20 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:23:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYmMy-0000cr-LV; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:23:12 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RYmMx-0000cA-6v for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:23:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1323382941!7442340!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMTg4MzQ=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9981 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2011 22:22:22 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Dec 2011 22:22:22 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,322,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="173485097" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 08 Dec 2011 17:22:20 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 17:22:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE1389A.90702@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 22:22:18 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Subject: [Xen-API] Location of xen-dist-ocaml.hg repository X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi all, Someone with the nick blp asked on #xen-api for the location of xen-dist-ocaml.hg, but logged off before I could reply. Here it is, if he's out there: http://xenbits.xen.org/hg/XCP/xen-dist-ocaml.hg/ Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 09 20:22:30 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:22:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RZ6xb-0005kF-DE; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:22:23 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RZ6xa-0005iF-6H for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:22:22 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323462092!6868460!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.214.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21688 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2011 20:21:32 -0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-bw0-f43.google.com) (209.85.214.43) by server-5.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Dec 2011 20:21:32 -0000 Received: by bkbzs2 with SMTP id zs2so9931117bkb.30 for ; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 12:21:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sTUlQm/7lYxg7jXjtAuKM48rtJU4jpK5Qzl25FdmbLY=; b=ElTyyncWJMPyEbuUxD7cpHl2PF6+R+NAQe8JMbmEZLYIQowEDKohUGxhOEbcKlMFHP SR5PVToFZ/NO6vpXuuQ3HPb3o5dikK0B/s0KhJd4PE0B1kJhBG8IClYEvrGLQWMG7KN8 DOJ48mKm9EJ+X5J4fkw+NikxqVaRKRUHBmEa8= Received: by 10.204.152.136 with SMTP id g8mr4646235bkw.127.1323462092174; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 12:21:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.220] (desunote.ru. [95.161.2.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e8sm12460084bkd.7.2011.12.09.12.21.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 09 Dec 2011 12:21:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE26DC9.3050602@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:21:29 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111209 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] maximal allowed parallelism X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Good day. Some question is bother me for long long time. How many parallel operations can xapi performs? By experiment I can be sure xapi can perform no more than one migration accepting process on host (and AFAIK reboot/start/shutdown). But what is the real limit for following operations: 1) Sending VM (migration transmitting) (per host) 2) Migration per pool (f.e. from host A to host B and in same time for other VM from host C to host D) 3) VBD plug per host, per pool 4) VIF plug per host, per pool 5) reboot/shutdown per host, per pool 6) start per host, per pool 7) VDI creating per host (SRmaster?), per pool for single shared SR, per pool per SR I think after confirming that I'll post data to wiki, so I'd like to get more verified information. Thanks. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 09 20:22:30 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:22:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RZ6xb-0005kF-DE; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:22:23 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RZ6xa-0005iF-6H for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:22:22 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323462092!6868460!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.214.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21688 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2011 20:21:32 -0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-bw0-f43.google.com) (209.85.214.43) by server-5.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Dec 2011 20:21:32 -0000 Received: by bkbzs2 with SMTP id zs2so9931117bkb.30 for ; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 12:21:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sTUlQm/7lYxg7jXjtAuKM48rtJU4jpK5Qzl25FdmbLY=; b=ElTyyncWJMPyEbuUxD7cpHl2PF6+R+NAQe8JMbmEZLYIQowEDKohUGxhOEbcKlMFHP SR5PVToFZ/NO6vpXuuQ3HPb3o5dikK0B/s0KhJd4PE0B1kJhBG8IClYEvrGLQWMG7KN8 DOJ48mKm9EJ+X5J4fkw+NikxqVaRKRUHBmEa8= Received: by 10.204.152.136 with SMTP id g8mr4646235bkw.127.1323462092174; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 12:21:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.220] (desunote.ru. [95.161.2.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e8sm12460084bkd.7.2011.12.09.12.21.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 09 Dec 2011 12:21:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE26DC9.3050602@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:21:29 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111209 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] maximal allowed parallelism X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Good day. Some question is bother me for long long time. How many parallel operations can xapi performs? By experiment I can be sure xapi can perform no more than one migration accepting process on host (and AFAIK reboot/start/shutdown). But what is the real limit for following operations: 1) Sending VM (migration transmitting) (per host) 2) Migration per pool (f.e. from host A to host B and in same time for other VM from host C to host D) 3) VBD plug per host, per pool 4) VIF plug per host, per pool 5) reboot/shutdown per host, per pool 6) start per host, per pool 7) VDI creating per host (SRmaster?), per pool for single shared SR, per pool per SR I think after confirming that I'll post data to wiki, so I'd like to get more verified information. Thanks. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sun Dec 11 19:07:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:07:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RZojz-0007ug-8X; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:07:15 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RZojy-0007uP-0L; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:07:14 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pasik@iki.fi X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1323630381!5108397!1 X-Originating-IP: [192.89.123.25] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTkyLjg5LjEyMy4yNSA9PiA0MTM3MTk=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 769 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2011 19:06:21 -0000 Received: from smtp.tele.fi (HELO smtp.tele.fi) (192.89.123.25) by server-6.tower-174.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 11 Dec 2011 19:06:21 -0000 X-Originating-Ip: [194.89.68.22] Received: from ydin.reaktio.net (reaktio.net [194.89.68.22]) by smtp.tele.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387431AF4; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:06:20 +0200 (EET) Received: by ydin.reaktio.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0227720083; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:06:19 +0200 (EET) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:06:19 +0200 From: Pasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4rkk=E4inen?= To: Mike McClurg Message-ID: <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Enzo Lombardi , "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP 1.5 availability X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 09:29:04AM +0000, Mike McClurg wrote: > (Added xen-api list to CC.) > > On 06/12/11 19:57, Enzo Lombardi wrote: > > Is there any nightly build, dev build, morning build of XCP 1.5? > > I saw a message mentioning "end of September", what happened to this > > release? What is the delay and what does the schedule looks like? > > Hi Enzo, > > We had hoped for a September beta at one point, but clearly this hasn't > happened. We're currently aiming for a January alpha release. The delays > have been due to our focus on Project Kronos, where we are porting the > XCP toolstack to run on Debian and Ubuntu. The core XCP team consists of > only two people, and Kronos turned out to be quite a time consuming > project. At the same time, we are still committed to providing the > traditional XCP "appliance", as well as XCP on Debian and Ubuntu. > Hey, I think we should use the name "XCP" only for the appliance, and maybe just "XAPI toolstack" for the packages in Debian/Ubuntu? Does that make sense? Some people are getting confused about what XCP is.. > The problem with the XCP appliance and it's slow releases is mainly due > to our internal build system. In the past, the XCP team has had to do a > lot of manual work to convert each XenServer release into an XCP > release. Over the last year we have been tweaking our build system, and > parts of our toolstack code, to do this work for us. > > The last bits of this work are almost complete. Once they are complete, > we will be able to start providing regular development snapshots of XCP, > and will be able to provide a more regular release cadence. Until this > work is complete, we don't feel that it would be worthwhile to release > an alpha of XCP 1.5, because we know it will be broken, due to the > incompleteness of our build system and toolstack changes. > > I'm sorry again for the delay to XCP 1.5. We hope that the work we're > doing pays off in that future releases won't be so delayed, and > development snapshots will finally be possible. Thanks for the continued > interest in XCP. > Sounds good! -- Pasi _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sun Dec 11 19:07:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:07:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RZojz-0007ug-8X; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:07:15 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RZojy-0007uP-0L; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:07:14 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pasik@iki.fi X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1323630381!5108397!1 X-Originating-IP: [192.89.123.25] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTkyLjg5LjEyMy4yNSA9PiA0MTM3MTk=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 769 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2011 19:06:21 -0000 Received: from smtp.tele.fi (HELO smtp.tele.fi) (192.89.123.25) by server-6.tower-174.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 11 Dec 2011 19:06:21 -0000 X-Originating-Ip: [194.89.68.22] Received: from ydin.reaktio.net (reaktio.net [194.89.68.22]) by smtp.tele.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387431AF4; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:06:20 +0200 (EET) Received: by ydin.reaktio.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0227720083; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:06:19 +0200 (EET) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:06:19 +0200 From: Pasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4rkk=E4inen?= To: Mike McClurg Message-ID: <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Enzo Lombardi , "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] XCP 1.5 availability X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 09:29:04AM +0000, Mike McClurg wrote: > (Added xen-api list to CC.) > > On 06/12/11 19:57, Enzo Lombardi wrote: > > Is there any nightly build, dev build, morning build of XCP 1.5? > > I saw a message mentioning "end of September", what happened to this > > release? What is the delay and what does the schedule looks like? > > Hi Enzo, > > We had hoped for a September beta at one point, but clearly this hasn't > happened. We're currently aiming for a January alpha release. The delays > have been due to our focus on Project Kronos, where we are porting the > XCP toolstack to run on Debian and Ubuntu. The core XCP team consists of > only two people, and Kronos turned out to be quite a time consuming > project. At the same time, we are still committed to providing the > traditional XCP "appliance", as well as XCP on Debian and Ubuntu. > Hey, I think we should use the name "XCP" only for the appliance, and maybe just "XAPI toolstack" for the packages in Debian/Ubuntu? Does that make sense? Some people are getting confused about what XCP is.. > The problem with the XCP appliance and it's slow releases is mainly due > to our internal build system. In the past, the XCP team has had to do a > lot of manual work to convert each XenServer release into an XCP > release. Over the last year we have been tweaking our build system, and > parts of our toolstack code, to do this work for us. > > The last bits of this work are almost complete. Once they are complete, > we will be able to start providing regular development snapshots of XCP, > and will be able to provide a more regular release cadence. Until this > work is complete, we don't feel that it would be worthwhile to release > an alpha of XCP 1.5, because we know it will be broken, due to the > incompleteness of our build system and toolstack changes. > > I'm sorry again for the delay to XCP 1.5. We hope that the work we're > doing pays off in that future releases won't be so delayed, and > development snapshots will finally be possible. Thanks for the continued > interest in XCP. > Sounds good! -- Pasi _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 12 11:32:21 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:32:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra47A-0008AH-Jm; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:32:12 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra479-0008A9-6d; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:32:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Campbell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323689478!7074557!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NDc4NQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25497 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2011 11:31:18 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-6.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 11:31:18 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,338,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9413751" Received: from lonpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 12 Dec 2011 11:31:18 +0000 Received: from [10.80.2.42] (10.80.2.42) by LONPMAILMX01.citrite.net (10.30.203.162) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:31:18 +0000 From: Ian Campbell To: George Shuklin Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:31:17 +0000 In-Reply-To: <4EE2665C.8090602@gmail.com> References: <4EE2665C.8090602@gmail.com> Organization: Citrix Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3- Message-ID: <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-hosting@googlegroups.com" , "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] bug in xenstored? No notification to subscription on @introduceDomain X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 19:49 +0000, George Shuklin wrote: > Good day. > > I think I met some strange bug in xenstored. If you are using XCP then this will be using oxenstored. I've CC'd xen-api@ since that is the correct place for XCP discussions. It's also plausibly a bug in the C client library or the python bindings to that library (or indeed your application). > I using XCP for long time and all that time we have some funny bug we > was not able to debug enough due product environment and very low chance > to appear, now we was able to catch it in testing environment and done > some research. > > We have python application running in dom0 and waiting domain > appearance. This implemented this via subscription to @introduceDomain > xenstore key. Under some conditions we stops to receive notification on > subscription. If we ran application as second instance it will receive > that notification, if we restart application it will receive too. You lose both @introduce and @release notifications or just @introduce? Does the app do any other XS stuff, e.g. other watches or read/write? Do these stop working also? oxenstored (at least in XCP) logs to /var/log/xenstore-access.log -- do you see any activity in there? There is also /var/log/xenstored.log Does strace show the daemon writing (or trying to write) to the socket associated with this client? What about on the client side? (nb: libxenstore uses a thread to handle watches so be sure to use the appropriate options to strace.) Identifying the fd associated with the connection on either end might be tricky, /proc//fd and/or netstat might help narrow it down. The app being python presumably makes it hard to attach gdb to and get anything sensible, likewise the daemon being ocaml. If anyone has any hints on attaching a debugging to an existing process of these types then that might be useful. Other than that I'm afraid I really don't have any idea what might be going wrong, or indeed what other next steps can be taken to diagnose the issue :-( Ian. > I unable to pinpoint exact condition for this, but this > a) Happens occasionally but consistently (about once a month in farm of > 50 hosts at least at one host) > b) Not related to xenstored uptime > c) Not related to load on xen or dom0 > d) Not related to amount of domains > e) Occur at least at XCP 0.5, 1.0 and 1.1 (I don't know how to get > version from xenstored) > > Last time I got that on two hosts in lab at same time (with single guest > domain without any high load) and done some experiments - so I can say > exactly I wrote above. > > The pieces from python code we ran: > > from xen.lowlevel.xs import xs > conn = xs.xs() > conn.watch("@introduceDomain", "+") > conn.watch("@releaseDomain", "-") > conn.read_watch() > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 12 11:32:21 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:32:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra47A-0008AH-Jm; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:32:12 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra479-0008A9-6d; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:32:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Campbell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323689478!7074557!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NDc4NQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25497 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2011 11:31:18 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-6.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 11:31:18 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,338,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9413751" Received: from lonpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 12 Dec 2011 11:31:18 +0000 Received: from [10.80.2.42] (10.80.2.42) by LONPMAILMX01.citrite.net (10.30.203.162) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:31:18 +0000 From: Ian Campbell To: George Shuklin Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:31:17 +0000 In-Reply-To: <4EE2665C.8090602@gmail.com> References: <4EE2665C.8090602@gmail.com> Organization: Citrix Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3- Message-ID: <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-hosting@googlegroups.com" , "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] bug in xenstored? No notification to subscription on @introduceDomain X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 19:49 +0000, George Shuklin wrote: > Good day. > > I think I met some strange bug in xenstored. If you are using XCP then this will be using oxenstored. I've CC'd xen-api@ since that is the correct place for XCP discussions. It's also plausibly a bug in the C client library or the python bindings to that library (or indeed your application). > I using XCP for long time and all that time we have some funny bug we > was not able to debug enough due product environment and very low chance > to appear, now we was able to catch it in testing environment and done > some research. > > We have python application running in dom0 and waiting domain > appearance. This implemented this via subscription to @introduceDomain > xenstore key. Under some conditions we stops to receive notification on > subscription. If we ran application as second instance it will receive > that notification, if we restart application it will receive too. You lose both @introduce and @release notifications or just @introduce? Does the app do any other XS stuff, e.g. other watches or read/write? Do these stop working also? oxenstored (at least in XCP) logs to /var/log/xenstore-access.log -- do you see any activity in there? There is also /var/log/xenstored.log Does strace show the daemon writing (or trying to write) to the socket associated with this client? What about on the client side? (nb: libxenstore uses a thread to handle watches so be sure to use the appropriate options to strace.) Identifying the fd associated with the connection on either end might be tricky, /proc//fd and/or netstat might help narrow it down. The app being python presumably makes it hard to attach gdb to and get anything sensible, likewise the daemon being ocaml. If anyone has any hints on attaching a debugging to an existing process of these types then that might be useful. Other than that I'm afraid I really don't have any idea what might be going wrong, or indeed what other next steps can be taken to diagnose the issue :-( Ian. > I unable to pinpoint exact condition for this, but this > a) Happens occasionally but consistently (about once a month in farm of > 50 hosts at least at one host) > b) Not related to xenstored uptime > c) Not related to load on xen or dom0 > d) Not related to amount of domains > e) Occur at least at XCP 0.5, 1.0 and 1.1 (I don't know how to get > version from xenstored) > > Last time I got that on two hosts in lab at same time (with single guest > domain without any high load) and done some experiments - so I can say > exactly I wrote above. > > The pieces from python code we ran: > > from xen.lowlevel.xs import xs > conn = xs.xs() > conn.watch("@introduceDomain", "+") > conn.watch("@releaseDomain", "-") > conn.read_watch() > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 12 12:11:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:11:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra4iu-0000t3-Lo; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:11:12 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra4it-0000si-Gf for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:11:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1323691816!7748165!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.214.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9905 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2011 12:10:17 -0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-bw0-f43.google.com) (209.85.214.43) by server-12.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 12:10:17 -0000 Received: by bkbzs2 with SMTP id zs2so17806030bkb.30 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:10:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=13JTSitD5J1jYQnpQapGmRDuEcZfrx2Jso3Sdo7Q9bg=; b=vihdRepB8JWkdtSx6bpoK/kzB9uwMkzCumVKUbs39ohG+3yIGDW6x4jV8FHt0+vKQh /lpJmmChPfuTsxwz86od/s0s3oVHGzHBW65wBsBmam4E9P+eGDv2qpC981KAm3nKhxVd C//GyjDajWazfdQDEDaPvFHQcTZgd96XkboXA= Received: by 10.204.131.77 with SMTP id w13mr9620529bks.102.1323691814622; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.40.44] (officecvt.selectel.ru. [188.93.16.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w3sm31238651bkq.3.2011.12.12.04.10.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:10:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE5EF22.6050704@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:10:10 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111209 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Campbell References: <4EE2665C.8090602@gmail.com> <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> Cc: "xen-hosting@googlegroups.com" , xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] bug in xenstored? No notification to subscription on @introduceDomain X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thanks for reply. The problem is we tried at least two different libraries - xs (+python xen.lowlevel.xs) and our own library (pyxs), created from scratches on pure python - both shows exactly same behavior. We loosing same time @introduce and @release, but only for new domains. Older domains (which starts before error appear) during shutdown/migration sends @release normally. I done strace, nothig is sending by xenstored to application socket when 'new' domains appears and disappears (I'm not sure 100% due not very good strace skills). Application performs write/read operations to/from xenstore (and do many subscriptions, but only after @introduce) and older subscription works fine. PS We got other strange bug with memory leak in xenstored (happens only with big amount of transactions, and ONLY with socket) - but this case is still under research, so I decide not to post this (but may be it related somehow?). Sorry for question - how I can gather debug information for oxenstored? On 12.12.2011 15:31, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 19:49 +0000, George Shuklin wrote: >> Good day. >> >> I think I met some strange bug in xenstored. > If you are using XCP then this will be using oxenstored. I've CC'd > xen-api@ since that is the correct place for XCP discussions. > > It's also plausibly a bug in the C client library or the python bindings > to that library (or indeed your application). > >> I using XCP for long time and all that time we have some funny bug we >> was not able to debug enough due product environment and very low chance >> to appear, now we was able to catch it in testing environment and done >> some research. >> >> We have python application running in dom0 and waiting domain >> appearance. This implemented this via subscription to @introduceDomain >> xenstore key. Under some conditions we stops to receive notification on >> subscription. If we ran application as second instance it will receive >> that notification, if we restart application it will receive too. > You lose both @introduce and @release notifications or just @introduce? > > Does the app do any other XS stuff, e.g. other watches or read/write? Do > these stop working also? > > oxenstored (at least in XCP) logs to /var/log/xenstore-access.log -- do > you see any activity in there? There is also /var/log/xenstored.log > > Does strace show the daemon writing (or trying to write) to the socket > associated with this client? What about on the client side? (nb: > libxenstore uses a thread to handle watches so be sure to use the > appropriate options to strace.) Identifying the fd associated with the > connection on either end might be tricky, /proc//fd and/or netstat > might help narrow it down. > > The app being python presumably makes it hard to attach gdb to and get > anything sensible, likewise the daemon being ocaml. If anyone has any > hints on attaching a debugging to an existing process of these types > then that might be useful. > > Other than that I'm afraid I really don't have any idea what might be > going wrong, or indeed what other next steps can be taken to diagnose > the issue :-( > > Ian. > >> I unable to pinpoint exact condition for this, but this >> a) Happens occasionally but consistently (about once a month in farm of >> 50 hosts at least at one host) >> b) Not related to xenstored uptime >> c) Not related to load on xen or dom0 >> d) Not related to amount of domains >> e) Occur at least at XCP 0.5, 1.0 and 1.1 (I don't know how to get >> version from xenstored) >> >> Last time I got that on two hosts in lab at same time (with single guest >> domain without any high load) and done some experiments - so I can say >> exactly I wrote above. >> >> The pieces from python code we ran: >> >> from xen.lowlevel.xs import xs >> conn = xs.xs() >> conn.watch("@introduceDomain", "+") >> conn.watch("@releaseDomain", "-") >> conn.read_watch() >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xen-devel mailing list >> Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 12 12:11:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:11:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra4iu-0000t3-Lo; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:11:12 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra4it-0000si-Gf for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:11:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1323691816!7748165!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.214.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9905 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2011 12:10:17 -0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-bw0-f43.google.com) (209.85.214.43) by server-12.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 12:10:17 -0000 Received: by bkbzs2 with SMTP id zs2so17806030bkb.30 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:10:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=13JTSitD5J1jYQnpQapGmRDuEcZfrx2Jso3Sdo7Q9bg=; b=vihdRepB8JWkdtSx6bpoK/kzB9uwMkzCumVKUbs39ohG+3yIGDW6x4jV8FHt0+vKQh /lpJmmChPfuTsxwz86od/s0s3oVHGzHBW65wBsBmam4E9P+eGDv2qpC981KAm3nKhxVd C//GyjDajWazfdQDEDaPvFHQcTZgd96XkboXA= Received: by 10.204.131.77 with SMTP id w13mr9620529bks.102.1323691814622; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.40.44] (officecvt.selectel.ru. [188.93.16.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w3sm31238651bkq.3.2011.12.12.04.10.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:10:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE5EF22.6050704@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:10:10 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111209 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Campbell References: <4EE2665C.8090602@gmail.com> <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> Cc: "xen-hosting@googlegroups.com" , xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] bug in xenstored? No notification to subscription on @introduceDomain X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thanks for reply. The problem is we tried at least two different libraries - xs (+python xen.lowlevel.xs) and our own library (pyxs), created from scratches on pure python - both shows exactly same behavior. We loosing same time @introduce and @release, but only for new domains. Older domains (which starts before error appear) during shutdown/migration sends @release normally. I done strace, nothig is sending by xenstored to application socket when 'new' domains appears and disappears (I'm not sure 100% due not very good strace skills). Application performs write/read operations to/from xenstore (and do many subscriptions, but only after @introduce) and older subscription works fine. PS We got other strange bug with memory leak in xenstored (happens only with big amount of transactions, and ONLY with socket) - but this case is still under research, so I decide not to post this (but may be it related somehow?). Sorry for question - how I can gather debug information for oxenstored? On 12.12.2011 15:31, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 19:49 +0000, George Shuklin wrote: >> Good day. >> >> I think I met some strange bug in xenstored. > If you are using XCP then this will be using oxenstored. I've CC'd > xen-api@ since that is the correct place for XCP discussions. > > It's also plausibly a bug in the C client library or the python bindings > to that library (or indeed your application). > >> I using XCP for long time and all that time we have some funny bug we >> was not able to debug enough due product environment and very low chance >> to appear, now we was able to catch it in testing environment and done >> some research. >> >> We have python application running in dom0 and waiting domain >> appearance. This implemented this via subscription to @introduceDomain >> xenstore key. Under some conditions we stops to receive notification on >> subscription. If we ran application as second instance it will receive >> that notification, if we restart application it will receive too. > You lose both @introduce and @release notifications or just @introduce? > > Does the app do any other XS stuff, e.g. other watches or read/write? Do > these stop working also? > > oxenstored (at least in XCP) logs to /var/log/xenstore-access.log -- do > you see any activity in there? There is also /var/log/xenstored.log > > Does strace show the daemon writing (or trying to write) to the socket > associated with this client? What about on the client side? (nb: > libxenstore uses a thread to handle watches so be sure to use the > appropriate options to strace.) Identifying the fd associated with the > connection on either end might be tricky, /proc//fd and/or netstat > might help narrow it down. > > The app being python presumably makes it hard to attach gdb to and get > anything sensible, likewise the daemon being ocaml. If anyone has any > hints on attaching a debugging to an existing process of these types > then that might be useful. > > Other than that I'm afraid I really don't have any idea what might be > going wrong, or indeed what other next steps can be taken to diagnose > the issue :-( > > Ian. > >> I unable to pinpoint exact condition for this, but this >> a) Happens occasionally but consistently (about once a month in farm of >> 50 hosts at least at one host) >> b) Not related to xenstored uptime >> c) Not related to load on xen or dom0 >> d) Not related to amount of domains >> e) Occur at least at XCP 0.5, 1.0 and 1.1 (I don't know how to get >> version from xenstored) >> >> Last time I got that on two hosts in lab at same time (with single guest >> domain without any high load) and done some experiments - so I can say >> exactly I wrote above. >> >> The pieces from python code we ran: >> >> from xen.lowlevel.xs import xs >> conn = xs.xs() >> conn.watch("@introduceDomain", "+") >> conn.watch("@releaseDomain", "-") >> conn.read_watch() >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xen-devel mailing list >> Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 12 13:47:57 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:47:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra6EO-0002dg-Nv; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:47:48 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra6EO-0002dY-4Z; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:47:48 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Campbell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323697615!7116745!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NDc4NQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 7718 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2011 13:46:55 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 13:46:55 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,339,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9417413" Received: from lonpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 12 Dec 2011 13:46:54 +0000 Received: from [10.80.2.42] (10.80.2.42) by LONPMAILMX01.citrite.net (10.30.203.162) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:46:54 +0000 From: Ian Campbell To: George Shuklin Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:46:53 +0000 In-Reply-To: <4EE5EF22.6050704@gmail.com> References: <4EE2665C.8090602@gmail.com> <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> <4EE5EF22.6050704@gmail.com> Organization: Citrix Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3- Message-ID: <1323697614.20077.211.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: xen-devel , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] bug in xenstored? No notification to subscription on @introduceDomain X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Please don't top post and don't drop people/lists from the CC. I have reinstated xen-devel and refrained from trimming the quotes as heavily as I normally would. Counter to my own advice I have also dropped xen-hosts@googlegroups.com because last time I got a bounce in Russian to the effect that the group does not exist (according to google translate). On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 12:10 +0000, George Shuklin wrote: > Thanks for reply. > > The problem is we tried at least two different libraries - xs (+python > xen.lowlevel.xs) and our own library (pyxs), created from scratches on > pure python - both shows exactly same behavior. We loosing same time > @introduce and @release, but only for new domains. Older domains (which > starts before error appear) during shutdown/migration sends @release > normally. > > I done strace, nothig is sending by xenstored to application socket when > 'new' domains appears and disappears (I'm not sure 100% due not very > good strace skills). > > Application performs write/read operations to/from xenstore (and do many > subscriptions, but only after @introduce) and older subscription works fine. > > PS We got other strange bug with memory leak in xenstored (happens only > with big amount of transactions, and ONLY with socket) - but this case > is still under research, so I decide not to post this (but may be it > related somehow?). Are the two event correlated? i.e. is the oxenstored process huge when these failures occur? Inability to allocate memory could explain some of your symptoms although I'd expect it to be more fatal more quickly and obviously than what you describe or to have wider impact. > Sorry for question - how I can gather debug information for oxenstored? What sort of debug information are you after? There are various logging options which you could turn up to 11 in /etc/xensource/xenstored.conf but I do not have a complete list of what they are, similarly for command line options -- perhaps someone on xen-api@ could chime in? Otherwise looking in the source might be the best way to find out what they are, try xenstore.ml, parse_args.ml logging.ml would be good places to start. (if having done so you feel motivated to write a patch to add docs/man/oxenstored.1.pod we would be much obliged...) Ian. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 12 13:47:57 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:47:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra6EO-0002dg-Nv; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:47:48 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra6EO-0002dY-4Z; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:47:48 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Campbell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323697615!7116745!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NDc4NQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 7718 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2011 13:46:55 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 13:46:55 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,339,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9417413" Received: from lonpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 12 Dec 2011 13:46:54 +0000 Received: from [10.80.2.42] (10.80.2.42) by LONPMAILMX01.citrite.net (10.30.203.162) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:46:54 +0000 From: Ian Campbell To: George Shuklin Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:46:53 +0000 In-Reply-To: <4EE5EF22.6050704@gmail.com> References: <4EE2665C.8090602@gmail.com> <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> <4EE5EF22.6050704@gmail.com> Organization: Citrix Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3- Message-ID: <1323697614.20077.211.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: xen-devel , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] bug in xenstored? No notification to subscription on @introduceDomain X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Please don't top post and don't drop people/lists from the CC. I have reinstated xen-devel and refrained from trimming the quotes as heavily as I normally would. Counter to my own advice I have also dropped xen-hosts@googlegroups.com because last time I got a bounce in Russian to the effect that the group does not exist (according to google translate). On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 12:10 +0000, George Shuklin wrote: > Thanks for reply. > > The problem is we tried at least two different libraries - xs (+python > xen.lowlevel.xs) and our own library (pyxs), created from scratches on > pure python - both shows exactly same behavior. We loosing same time > @introduce and @release, but only for new domains. Older domains (which > starts before error appear) during shutdown/migration sends @release > normally. > > I done strace, nothig is sending by xenstored to application socket when > 'new' domains appears and disappears (I'm not sure 100% due not very > good strace skills). > > Application performs write/read operations to/from xenstore (and do many > subscriptions, but only after @introduce) and older subscription works fine. > > PS We got other strange bug with memory leak in xenstored (happens only > with big amount of transactions, and ONLY with socket) - but this case > is still under research, so I decide not to post this (but may be it > related somehow?). Are the two event correlated? i.e. is the oxenstored process huge when these failures occur? Inability to allocate memory could explain some of your symptoms although I'd expect it to be more fatal more quickly and obviously than what you describe or to have wider impact. > Sorry for question - how I can gather debug information for oxenstored? What sort of debug information are you after? There are various logging options which you could turn up to 11 in /etc/xensource/xenstored.conf but I do not have a complete list of what they are, similarly for command line options -- perhaps someone on xen-api@ could chime in? Otherwise looking in the source might be the best way to find out what they are, try xenstore.ml, parse_args.ml logging.ml would be good places to start. (if having done so you feel motivated to write a patch to add docs/man/oxenstored.1.pod we would be much obliged...) Ian. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 12 13:56:08 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:56:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra6MJ-0002zs-7R; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:55:59 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra6MH-0002zf-45; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:55:57 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Campbell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1323698103!6882488!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NDc4NQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11528 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2011 13:55:03 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-14.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 13:55:03 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,339,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9417629" Received: from lonpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 12 Dec 2011 13:55:03 +0000 Received: from [10.80.2.42] (10.80.2.42) by LONPMAILMX01.citrite.net (10.30.203.162) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:55:03 +0000 From: Ian Campbell To: George Shuklin Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:55:03 +0000 In-Reply-To: <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> References: <4EE2665C.8090602@gmail.com> <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> Organization: Citrix Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3- Message-ID: <1323698103.20077.216.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] bug in xenstored? No notification to subscription on @introduceDomain X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 11:31 +0000, Ian Campbell wrote: > Does the app do any other XS stuff, e.g. other watches or read/write? Do > these stop working also? One other question -- does your app use threading anywhere apart from the one it gets from libxenstore? Ian. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 12 13:56:08 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:56:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra6MJ-0002zs-7R; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:55:59 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra6MH-0002zf-45; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:55:57 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Ian.Campbell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1323698103!6882488!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NDc4NQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11528 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2011 13:55:03 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-14.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 13:55:03 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,339,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9417629" Received: from lonpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 12 Dec 2011 13:55:03 +0000 Received: from [10.80.2.42] (10.80.2.42) by LONPMAILMX01.citrite.net (10.30.203.162) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:55:03 +0000 From: Ian Campbell To: George Shuklin Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:55:03 +0000 In-Reply-To: <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> References: <4EE2665C.8090602@gmail.com> <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> Organization: Citrix Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3- Message-ID: <1323698103.20077.216.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] bug in xenstored? No notification to subscription on @introduceDomain X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 11:31 +0000, Ian Campbell wrote: > Does the app do any other XS stuff, e.g. other watches or read/write? Do > these stop working also? One other question -- does your app use threading anywhere apart from the one it gets from libxenstore? Ian. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 12 15:35:06 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:35:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra7u8-0001Bi-PH; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:35:00 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra7u7-0001BO-43; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:34:59 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323704045!7133913!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.214.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6797 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2011 15:34:05 -0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-bw0-f43.google.com) (209.85.214.43) by server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 15:34:05 -0000 Received: by bkbzs2 with SMTP id zs2so18338912bkb.30 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:34:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=c6yO6Ju5OjywTr6zw4cOgitPCKS3fvoGdn8pjADxeAA=; b=i4wCl4TX5u3s2YGH0qQbYND/mlxRYTUSf6WCG/MWsHSG4aAhUg2h4cpLEkVq5CSvVO ESDAiE28QjkjVvewJzATrYMRiX3ElJVtlf6J0CtBVkWFj3oPknTDC/2+x6vumWm6HQh+ I6UaQowhz8J+xv5LT2cAKE7PdfEvBX32a/PMA= Received: by 10.204.145.86 with SMTP id c22mr9844883bkv.61.1323704045157; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:34:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.40.44] (officecvt.selectel.ru. [188.93.16.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n14sm32600360bkn.13.2011.12.12.07.34.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:34:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE61EEA.9040607@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:34:02 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111209 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Campbell References: <4EE2665C.8090602@gmail.com> <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> <4EE5EF22.6050704@gmail.com> <1323697614.20077.211.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: <1323697614.20077.211.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> Cc: xen-devel , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] bug in xenstored? No notification to subscription on @introduceDomain X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 12.12.2011 17:46, Ian Campbell wrote: > Please don't top post and don't drop people/lists from the CC. I have > reinstated xen-devel and refrained from trimming the quotes as heavily > as I normally would. > > Counter to my own advice I have also dropped xen-hosts@googlegroups.com > because last time I got a bounce in Russian to the effect that the group > does not exist (according to google translate). > > On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 12:10 +0000, George Shuklin wrote: >> Thanks for reply. >> >> The problem is we tried at least two different libraries - xs (+python >> xen.lowlevel.xs) and our own library (pyxs), created from scratches on >> pure python - both shows exactly same behavior. We loosing same time >> @introduce and @release, but only for new domains. Older domains (which >> starts before error appear) during shutdown/migration sends @release >> normally. >> >> I done strace, nothig is sending by xenstored to application socket when >> 'new' domains appears and disappears (I'm not sure 100% due not very >> good strace skills). >> >> Application performs write/read operations to/from xenstore (and do many >> subscriptions, but only after @introduce) and older subscription works fine. >> >> PS We got other strange bug with memory leak in xenstored (happens only >> with big amount of transactions, and ONLY with socket) - but this case >> is still under research, so I decide not to post this (but may be it >> related somehow?). > Are the two event correlated? i.e. is the oxenstored process huge when > these failures occur? Inability to allocate memory could explain some of > your symptoms although I'd expect it to be more fatal more quickly and > obviously than what you describe or to have wider impact. Nope, memory leak occur only if transaction happens with subscription, but 'no notification' problem continues after we stops to use transaction (this cure memory leak completely, so I think this is separate issue, but I don't sure). I still can't catch condition for lack of notifications for @introduce, sorry (I got one more this morning in test pool). >> Sorry for question - how I can gather debug information for oxenstored? > What sort of debug information are you after? > > There are various logging options which you could turn up to 11 > in /etc/xensource/xenstored.conf but I do not have a complete list of > what they are, similarly for command line options -- perhaps someone on > xen-api@ could chime in? Otherwise looking in the source might be the > best way to find out what they are, try xenstore.ml, parse_args.ml > logging.ml would be good places to start. (if having done so you feel > motivated to write a patch to add docs/man/oxenstored.1.pod we would be > much obliged...) > Ok, thanks, I'll dig to sources to set up them all. We heavily using xenstore for dynamic memory regulation (about five operations for every domain per second). _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 12 15:35:06 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:35:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra7u8-0001Bi-PH; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:35:00 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra7u7-0001BO-43; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:34:59 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323704045!7133913!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.214.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6797 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2011 15:34:05 -0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-bw0-f43.google.com) (209.85.214.43) by server-7.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 15:34:05 -0000 Received: by bkbzs2 with SMTP id zs2so18338912bkb.30 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:34:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=c6yO6Ju5OjywTr6zw4cOgitPCKS3fvoGdn8pjADxeAA=; b=i4wCl4TX5u3s2YGH0qQbYND/mlxRYTUSf6WCG/MWsHSG4aAhUg2h4cpLEkVq5CSvVO ESDAiE28QjkjVvewJzATrYMRiX3ElJVtlf6J0CtBVkWFj3oPknTDC/2+x6vumWm6HQh+ I6UaQowhz8J+xv5LT2cAKE7PdfEvBX32a/PMA= Received: by 10.204.145.86 with SMTP id c22mr9844883bkv.61.1323704045157; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:34:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.40.44] (officecvt.selectel.ru. [188.93.16.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n14sm32600360bkn.13.2011.12.12.07.34.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:34:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE61EEA.9040607@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:34:02 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111209 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Campbell References: <4EE2665C.8090602@gmail.com> <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> <4EE5EF22.6050704@gmail.com> <1323697614.20077.211.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: <1323697614.20077.211.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> Cc: xen-devel , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] bug in xenstored? No notification to subscription on @introduceDomain X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 12.12.2011 17:46, Ian Campbell wrote: > Please don't top post and don't drop people/lists from the CC. I have > reinstated xen-devel and refrained from trimming the quotes as heavily > as I normally would. > > Counter to my own advice I have also dropped xen-hosts@googlegroups.com > because last time I got a bounce in Russian to the effect that the group > does not exist (according to google translate). > > On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 12:10 +0000, George Shuklin wrote: >> Thanks for reply. >> >> The problem is we tried at least two different libraries - xs (+python >> xen.lowlevel.xs) and our own library (pyxs), created from scratches on >> pure python - both shows exactly same behavior. We loosing same time >> @introduce and @release, but only for new domains. Older domains (which >> starts before error appear) during shutdown/migration sends @release >> normally. >> >> I done strace, nothig is sending by xenstored to application socket when >> 'new' domains appears and disappears (I'm not sure 100% due not very >> good strace skills). >> >> Application performs write/read operations to/from xenstore (and do many >> subscriptions, but only after @introduce) and older subscription works fine. >> >> PS We got other strange bug with memory leak in xenstored (happens only >> with big amount of transactions, and ONLY with socket) - but this case >> is still under research, so I decide not to post this (but may be it >> related somehow?). > Are the two event correlated? i.e. is the oxenstored process huge when > these failures occur? Inability to allocate memory could explain some of > your symptoms although I'd expect it to be more fatal more quickly and > obviously than what you describe or to have wider impact. Nope, memory leak occur only if transaction happens with subscription, but 'no notification' problem continues after we stops to use transaction (this cure memory leak completely, so I think this is separate issue, but I don't sure). I still can't catch condition for lack of notifications for @introduce, sorry (I got one more this morning in test pool). >> Sorry for question - how I can gather debug information for oxenstored? > What sort of debug information are you after? > > There are various logging options which you could turn up to 11 > in /etc/xensource/xenstored.conf but I do not have a complete list of > what they are, similarly for command line options -- perhaps someone on > xen-api@ could chime in? Otherwise looking in the source might be the > best way to find out what they are, try xenstore.ml, parse_args.ml > logging.ml would be good places to start. (if having done so you feel > motivated to write a patch to add docs/man/oxenstored.1.pod we would be > much obliged...) > Ok, thanks, I'll dig to sources to set up them all. We heavily using xenstore for dynamic memory regulation (about five operations for every domain per second). _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 12 15:37:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:37:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra7wA-0001XN-Ts; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:37:06 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra7wA-0001WT-0d; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:37:06 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1323704172!6917635!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.214.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 29503 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2011 15:36:12 -0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-bw0-f43.google.com) (209.85.214.43) by server-12.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 15:36:12 -0000 Received: by bkbzs2 with SMTP id zs2so18344590bkb.30 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:36:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D5r7Bjzwx87Kd7GIFJY05EKg9OEstog15llIgUcTRAU=; b=Pv7QqdjDxeZy+eihafQO0zfLcWUxi8VikQpmOBIFvwKNkP6XAwiTsVM1EdJSxOMGie bXOFCqKTUOw+VYg0O0bqsrVa/5YCwG0Ax6QmSWxIPllP6Ro6xtPA6AFw0mpa7M++KXKH e+MbNlM7I3UD/W6jHsMRN0sdPHzSlWABIdnuY= Received: by 10.205.127.2 with SMTP id gy2mr8887022bkc.87.1323704172244; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:36:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.40.44] (officecvt.selectel.ru. [188.93.16.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d2sm32625525bky.11.2011.12.12.07.36.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:36:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE61F69.6020407@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:36:09 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111209 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Campbell References: <4EE2665C.8090602@gmail.com> <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> <1323698103.20077.216.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: <1323698103.20077.216.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] bug in xenstored? No notification to subscription on @introduceDomain X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 12.12.2011 17:55, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 11:31 +0000, Ian Campbell wrote: >> Does the app do any other XS stuff, e.g. other watches or read/write? Do >> these stop working also? > One other question -- does your app use threading anywhere apart from > the one it gets from libxenstore? > Yes, it is! We using multithread model (that why we wrote an alternative library to access xenstore - to get normal multithread subscription). But this problem happens before we start multithread, with single-thread application. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 12 15:37:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:37:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra7wA-0001XN-Ts; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:37:06 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra7wA-0001WT-0d; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:37:06 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1323704172!6917635!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.214.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 29503 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2011 15:36:12 -0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-bw0-f43.google.com) (209.85.214.43) by server-12.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 15:36:12 -0000 Received: by bkbzs2 with SMTP id zs2so18344590bkb.30 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:36:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D5r7Bjzwx87Kd7GIFJY05EKg9OEstog15llIgUcTRAU=; b=Pv7QqdjDxeZy+eihafQO0zfLcWUxi8VikQpmOBIFvwKNkP6XAwiTsVM1EdJSxOMGie bXOFCqKTUOw+VYg0O0bqsrVa/5YCwG0Ax6QmSWxIPllP6Ro6xtPA6AFw0mpa7M++KXKH e+MbNlM7I3UD/W6jHsMRN0sdPHzSlWABIdnuY= Received: by 10.205.127.2 with SMTP id gy2mr8887022bkc.87.1323704172244; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:36:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.40.44] (officecvt.selectel.ru. [188.93.16.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d2sm32625525bky.11.2011.12.12.07.36.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:36:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE61F69.6020407@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:36:09 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111209 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Campbell References: <4EE2665C.8090602@gmail.com> <1323689477.20077.173.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> <1323698103.20077.216.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: <1323698103.20077.216.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] bug in xenstored? No notification to subscription on @introduceDomain X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 12.12.2011 17:55, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 11:31 +0000, Ian Campbell wrote: >> Does the app do any other XS stuff, e.g. other watches or read/write? Do >> these stop working also? > One other question -- does your app use threading anywhere apart from > the one it gets from libxenstore? > Yes, it is! We using multithread model (that why we wrote an alternative library to access xenstore - to get normal multithread subscription). But this problem happens before we start multithread, with single-thread application. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 13 06:39:33 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:39:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaM1K-0007Gk-M8; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:39:22 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaM1J-0007Gf-3B for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:39:21 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323758258!60467508!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28335 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2011 06:37:39 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2011 06:37:39 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 795482805E for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:38:29 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:38:23 +1000 Message-Id: <0E9AE435-28B6-41B3-8808-4F4D16AB48E8@ocean.net.au> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Xen-API] Where to log bugs against Kronos? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi list members. Forgive me if this is documented somewhere. I've spent the last hour searching for any mention of it. Where can I log bugs (with patches) against the Kronos project? Do you have a JIRA, Bugzilla or something somewhere. Links on the Wiki would be appreciated also. Thanks, Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 13 06:39:33 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:39:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaM1K-0007Gk-M8; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:39:22 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaM1J-0007Gf-3B for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:39:21 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323758258!60467508!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28335 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2011 06:37:39 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2011 06:37:39 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 795482805E for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:38:29 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:38:23 +1000 Message-Id: <0E9AE435-28B6-41B3-8808-4F4D16AB48E8@ocean.net.au> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Xen-API] Where to log bugs against Kronos? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi list members. Forgive me if this is documented somewhere. I've spent the last hour searching for any mention of it. Where can I log bugs (with patches) against the Kronos project? Do you have a JIRA, Bugzilla or something somewhere. Links on the Wiki would be appreciated also. Thanks, Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 13 10:02:03 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:02:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaPBN-0004pm-Tb; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:01:57 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaPBL-0004ph-UT for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:01:56 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pankaj.kumarbiswas@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323770458!7139640!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.166.19.134] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMjAzLjE2Ni4xOS4xMzQgPT4gNDEyMTM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16133 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2011 10:01:01 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com.au (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM.AU) (203.166.19.134) by server-10.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Dec 2011 10:01:01 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,344,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="9589889" Received: from banpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.103.128.74]) by SYDPIPO01.CITRIX.COM.AU with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 13 Dec 2011 10:00:48 +0000 Received: from BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.71]) by BANPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.103.128.74]) with mapi; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:30:47 +0530 From: Pankaj Kumar Biswas To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:30:46 +0530 Thread-Topic: Re: ha-restart-policy =1,2,3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver Thread-Index: Acy5fcxm66dUJP26RwW43aBbU+HWFQ== Message-ID: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA4@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =1, 2, 3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4245777977434396390==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============4245777977434396390== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA4BANPMAILBOX01_" --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA4BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Team, In Xenserver 6.0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy we cannot set to 1,2 or= 3 ...only we can make it to best-effort and restart.. Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason to do so?? Do we have any docume= ntation regarding that?? Thanks & Regards, PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA4BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Team,

 

In Xenserver 6.0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy we cannot set to 1,2 o= r 3 ...only we can make it to best-effort and restart..

 

Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason to do so??  Do we h= ave any documentation regarding that??

 

 

Thanks &= ; Regards,

PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS

= --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA4BANPMAILBOX01_-- --===============4245777977434396390== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============4245777977434396390==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 13 10:02:03 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:02:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaPBN-0004pm-Tb; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:01:57 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaPBL-0004ph-UT for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:01:56 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pankaj.kumarbiswas@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323770458!7139640!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.166.19.134] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMjAzLjE2Ni4xOS4xMzQgPT4gNDEyMTM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16133 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2011 10:01:01 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com.au (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM.AU) (203.166.19.134) by server-10.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Dec 2011 10:01:01 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,344,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="9589889" Received: from banpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.103.128.74]) by SYDPIPO01.CITRIX.COM.AU with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 13 Dec 2011 10:00:48 +0000 Received: from BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.71]) by BANPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.103.128.74]) with mapi; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:30:47 +0530 From: Pankaj Kumar Biswas To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:30:46 +0530 Thread-Topic: Re: ha-restart-policy =1,2,3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver Thread-Index: Acy5fcxm66dUJP26RwW43aBbU+HWFQ== Message-ID: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA4@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =1, 2, 3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4245777977434396390==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============4245777977434396390== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA4BANPMAILBOX01_" --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA4BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Team, In Xenserver 6.0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy we cannot set to 1,2 or= 3 ...only we can make it to best-effort and restart.. Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason to do so?? Do we have any docume= ntation regarding that?? Thanks & Regards, PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA4BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Team,

 

In Xenserver 6.0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy we cannot set to 1,2 o= r 3 ...only we can make it to best-effort and restart..

 

Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason to do so??  Do we h= ave any documentation regarding that??

 

 

Thanks &= ; Regards,

PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS

= --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA4BANPMAILBOX01_-- --===============4245777977434396390== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============4245777977434396390==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 13 10:04:25 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:04:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaPDf-00050a-N5; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:04:19 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaPDe-0004zo-UL for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:04:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pankaj.kumarbiswas@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1323770600!5276145!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.166.19.134] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMjAzLjE2Ni4xOS4xMzQgPT4gNDEyMTM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26520 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2011 10:03:24 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com.au (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM.AU) (203.166.19.134) by server-3.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Dec 2011 10:03:24 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,344,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="9589905" Received: from banpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) by SYDPIPO01.CITRIX.COM.AU with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 13 Dec 2011 10:03:19 +0000 Received: from BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.71]) by BANPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) with mapi; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:33:18 +0530 From: Pankaj Kumar Biswas To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:33:17 +0530 Thread-Topic: Re: ha-restart-policy =1,2,3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver Thread-Index: Acy5fcxm66dUJP26RwW43aBbU+HWFQAAHZ6A Message-ID: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =1, 2, 3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8392599671497136030==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============8392599671497136030== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7BANPMAILBOX01_" --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry for wrong key; it is ha-restart-priority. Resending again. Thanks, PANKAJ From: Pankaj Kumar Biswas Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:31 PM To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: ha-restart-policy =3D1,2,3 invalid for latest version of Xense= rver Hi Team, In Xenserver 6.0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy we cannot set to 1,2 or= 3 ...only we can make it to best-effort and restart.. Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason to do so?? Do we have any docume= ntation regarding that?? Thanks & Regards, PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sorry for wrong key; it is ha-restart-priority. Resending aga= in.

 

Thanks,

PANKAJ

 

Fro= m: Pankaj Kumar Biswas
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:31 = PM
To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com
Subject: Re: ha-rest= art-policy =3D1,2,3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver

 

Hi Team,

 

In Xenserver 6.0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy = we cannot set to 1,2 or 3 ...only we can make it to best-effort and restart= ..

 =

Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason to= do so??  Do we have any documentation regarding that??

 

=  

Thanks & Regards,

PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS

= --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7BANPMAILBOX01_-- --===============8392599671497136030== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============8392599671497136030==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 13 10:04:25 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:04:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaPDf-00050a-N5; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:04:19 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaPDe-0004zo-UL for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:04:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pankaj.kumarbiswas@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1323770600!5276145!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.166.19.134] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMjAzLjE2Ni4xOS4xMzQgPT4gNDEyMTM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26520 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2011 10:03:24 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com.au (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM.AU) (203.166.19.134) by server-3.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Dec 2011 10:03:24 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,344,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="9589905" Received: from banpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) by SYDPIPO01.CITRIX.COM.AU with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 13 Dec 2011 10:03:19 +0000 Received: from BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.71]) by BANPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) with mapi; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:33:18 +0530 From: Pankaj Kumar Biswas To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:33:17 +0530 Thread-Topic: Re: ha-restart-policy =1,2,3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver Thread-Index: Acy5fcxm66dUJP26RwW43aBbU+HWFQAAHZ6A Message-ID: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =1, 2, 3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8392599671497136030==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============8392599671497136030== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7BANPMAILBOX01_" --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry for wrong key; it is ha-restart-priority. Resending again. Thanks, PANKAJ From: Pankaj Kumar Biswas Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:31 PM To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: ha-restart-policy =3D1,2,3 invalid for latest version of Xense= rver Hi Team, In Xenserver 6.0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy we cannot set to 1,2 or= 3 ...only we can make it to best-effort and restart.. Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason to do so?? Do we have any docume= ntation regarding that?? Thanks & Regards, PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sorry for wrong key; it is ha-restart-priority. Resending aga= in.

 

Thanks,

PANKAJ

 

Fro= m: Pankaj Kumar Biswas
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:31 = PM
To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com
Subject: Re: ha-rest= art-policy =3D1,2,3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver

 

Hi Team,

 

In Xenserver 6.0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy = we cannot set to 1,2 or 3 ...only we can make it to best-effort and restart= ..

 =

Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason to= do so??  Do we have any documentation regarding that??

 

=  

Thanks & Regards,

PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS

= --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7BANPMAILBOX01_-- --===============8392599671497136030== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============8392599671497136030==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 13 11:24:55 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:24:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaQTZ-0006wr-3y; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:24:49 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaQTY-0006wm-Gl for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:24:48 +0000 X-Env-Sender: john.else@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1323775433!6506371!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NTI1NA==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16092 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2011 11:23:54 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-13.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Dec 2011 11:23:54 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,344,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="9437241" Received: from lonpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 13 Dec 2011 11:23:33 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) with mapi; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:23:33 +0000 From: John Else To: Pankaj Kumar Biswas , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:23:30 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =1, 2, 3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver Thread-Index: Acy5fcxm66dUJP26RwW43aBbU+HWFQAAHZ6AAAKSHIA= Message-ID: <7EA643C653F17F4C80DE959E978F10EDB47A3550A6@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> References: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> In-Reply-To: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =1, 2, 3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0286991044367621494==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============0286991044367621494== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7EA643C653F17F4C80DE959E978F10EDB47A3550A6LONPMAILBOX01_" --_000_7EA643C653F17F4C80DE959E978F10EDB47A3550A6LONPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > In Xenserver 6.0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy we cannot set to 1,2 = or 3 ...only we can make it to best-effort and restart.. > > Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason to do so?? Do we have any docu= mentation regarding that?? Hi Pankaj, The HA API was changed in XenServer 6.0 - there is a new VM field "order", = which is used together with ha-restart-priority to define a VM's HA behavio= ur. Where previously you would have set a VM's restart priority to 1, you would= now call: xe vm-param-set uuid=3D ha-restart-priority=3Drestart order=3D1 The order field can hold any non-negative 64 bit integer, and VMs with a lo= wer order will be restarted first after an HA failover. It looks like the administrator's guide still refers to the old API - I'll = see about getting this updated. Thanks, John --_000_7EA643C653F17F4C80DE959E978F10EDB47A3550A6LONPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>= ; In Xenserver 6.0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy we = cannot set to 1,2 or 3 ...only we can make it to best-effort and restart..<= o:p>

>> Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason to do so??  Do w= e have any documentation regarding that??

 

Hi Pankaj,

 

The HA API was changed in XenServer 6.0 – there is a new= VM field “order”, which is used together with ha-restart-prior= ity to define a VM’s HA behaviour.

Where previously you would have set a= VM’s restart priority to 1, you would now call:

 

xe vm-param-set uuid=3D<vm-uuid> ha-restart-priority=3Drestart= order=3D1

 

The order field can hold any non-nega= tive 64 bit integer, and VMs with a lower order will be restarted first aft= er an HA failover.

 

It looks like the administrator’s guide still ref= ers to the old API – I’ll see about getting this updated.<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Than= ks,

John

 

= --_000_7EA643C653F17F4C80DE959E978F10EDB47A3550A6LONPMAILBOX01_-- --===============0286991044367621494== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============0286991044367621494==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 13 11:24:55 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:24:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaQTZ-0006wr-3y; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:24:49 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaQTY-0006wm-Gl for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:24:48 +0000 X-Env-Sender: john.else@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1323775433!6506371!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NTI1NA==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16092 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2011 11:23:54 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-13.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Dec 2011 11:23:54 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,344,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="9437241" Received: from lonpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 13 Dec 2011 11:23:33 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) with mapi; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:23:33 +0000 From: John Else To: Pankaj Kumar Biswas , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:23:30 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =1, 2, 3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver Thread-Index: Acy5fcxm66dUJP26RwW43aBbU+HWFQAAHZ6AAAKSHIA= Message-ID: <7EA643C653F17F4C80DE959E978F10EDB47A3550A6@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> References: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> In-Reply-To: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =1, 2, 3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0286991044367621494==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============0286991044367621494== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7EA643C653F17F4C80DE959E978F10EDB47A3550A6LONPMAILBOX01_" --_000_7EA643C653F17F4C80DE959E978F10EDB47A3550A6LONPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > In Xenserver 6.0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy we cannot set to 1,2 = or 3 ...only we can make it to best-effort and restart.. > > Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason to do so?? Do we have any docu= mentation regarding that?? Hi Pankaj, The HA API was changed in XenServer 6.0 - there is a new VM field "order", = which is used together with ha-restart-priority to define a VM's HA behavio= ur. Where previously you would have set a VM's restart priority to 1, you would= now call: xe vm-param-set uuid=3D ha-restart-priority=3Drestart order=3D1 The order field can hold any non-negative 64 bit integer, and VMs with a lo= wer order will be restarted first after an HA failover. It looks like the administrator's guide still refers to the old API - I'll = see about getting this updated. Thanks, John --_000_7EA643C653F17F4C80DE959E978F10EDB47A3550A6LONPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>= ; In Xenserver 6.0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy we = cannot set to 1,2 or 3 ...only we can make it to best-effort and restart..<= o:p>

>> Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason to do so??  Do w= e have any documentation regarding that??

 

Hi Pankaj,

 

The HA API was changed in XenServer 6.0 – there is a new= VM field “order”, which is used together with ha-restart-prior= ity to define a VM’s HA behaviour.

Where previously you would have set a= VM’s restart priority to 1, you would now call:

 

xe vm-param-set uuid=3D<vm-uuid> ha-restart-priority=3Drestart= order=3D1

 

The order field can hold any non-nega= tive 64 bit integer, and VMs with a lower order will be restarted first aft= er an HA failover.

 

It looks like the administrator’s guide still ref= ers to the old API – I’ll see about getting this updated.<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Than= ks,

John

 

= --_000_7EA643C653F17F4C80DE959E978F10EDB47A3550A6LONPMAILBOX01_-- --===============0286991044367621494== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============0286991044367621494==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 13 11:37:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:37:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaQfM-0007Td-07; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:37:00 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaQfK-0007T9-66 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:36:58 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pankaj.kumarbiswas@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1323776159!5167418!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.166.19.134] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMjAzLjE2Ni4xOS4xMzQgPT4gNDEyMTM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23644 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2011 11:36:03 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com.au (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM.AU) (203.166.19.134) by server-15.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Dec 2011 11:36:03 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,344,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="9590665" Received: from banpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) by SYDPIPO01.CITRIX.COM.AU with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 13 Dec 2011 11:35:57 +0000 Received: from BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.71]) by BANPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) with mapi; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:05:55 +0530 From: Pankaj Kumar Biswas To: John Else , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:05:54 +0530 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =1, 2, 3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver Thread-Index: Acy5fcxm66dUJP26RwW43aBbU+HWFQAAHZ6AAAKSHIAAAJOIUA== Message-ID: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CED2@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> References: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> <7EA643C653F17F4C80DE959E978F10EDB47A3550A6@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> In-Reply-To: <7EA643C653F17F4C80DE959E978F10EDB47A3550A6@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =1, 2, 3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0632066367550143048==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============0632066367550143048== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CED2BANPMAILBOX01_" --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CED2BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks a ton !! . Really appreciate the quick response John. Please do let= me know when the xapi-document gets updated. Thank you once again. PANKAJ From: John Else Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:54 PM To: Pankaj Kumar Biswas; xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: RE: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =3D1, 2, 3 invalid for latest vers= ion of Xenserver > In Xenserver 6.0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy we cannot set to 1,2 = or 3 ...only we can make it to best-effort and restart.. > > Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason to do so?? Do we have any docu= mentation regarding that?? Hi Pankaj, The HA API was changed in XenServer 6.0 - there is a new VM field "order", = which is used together with ha-restart-priority to define a VM's HA behavio= ur. Where previously you would have set a VM's restart priority to 1, you would= now call: xe vm-param-set uuid=3D ha-restart-priority=3Drestart order=3D1 The order field can hold any non-negative 64 bit integer, and VMs with a lo= wer order will be restarted first after an HA failover. It looks like the administrator's guide still refers to the old API - I'll = see about getting this updated. Thanks, John --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CED2BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks a ton !! .  Really appreciate the quick response = John. Please do let me know when the xapi-document gets updated.=

Thank you onc= e again.

 

PANKAJ

 

 

From: John Else
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:54 PMTo: Pankaj Kumar Biswas; xen-api@lists.xensource.com
Subject:= RE: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =3D1, 2, 3 invalid for latest version = of Xenserver

&nb= sp;

> In Xenserver 6.= 0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy we cannot set to 1,2 or 3 ...only we c= an make it to best-effort and restart..

> 

> Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason t= o do so??  Do we have any documentation regarding that??

<= o:p> 

Hi Pankaj,

 

The HA API was chan= ged in XenServer 6.0 – there is a new VM field “order”, w= hich is used together with ha-restart-priority to define a VM’s HA be= haviour.

Where previously you would have set a VM’s restart= priority to 1, you would now call:

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>xe vm-param-set uuid=3D<vm-uuid> ha-restart-priority=3D= restart order=3D1

 

The = order field can hold any non-negative 64 bit integer, and VMs with a lower = order will be restarted first after an HA failover.

 

It looks like the administrator’s guide still refers to the old A= PI – I’ll see about getting this updated.

=

 =

Thanks,

John

 

= --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CED2BANPMAILBOX01_-- --===============0632066367550143048== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============0632066367550143048==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 13 11:37:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:37:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaQfM-0007Td-07; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:37:00 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaQfK-0007T9-66 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:36:58 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pankaj.kumarbiswas@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1323776159!5167418!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.166.19.134] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMjAzLjE2Ni4xOS4xMzQgPT4gNDEyMTM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23644 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2011 11:36:03 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com.au (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM.AU) (203.166.19.134) by server-15.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Dec 2011 11:36:03 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,344,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="9590665" Received: from banpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) by SYDPIPO01.CITRIX.COM.AU with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 13 Dec 2011 11:35:57 +0000 Received: from BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.71]) by BANPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) with mapi; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:05:55 +0530 From: Pankaj Kumar Biswas To: John Else , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:05:54 +0530 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =1, 2, 3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver Thread-Index: Acy5fcxm66dUJP26RwW43aBbU+HWFQAAHZ6AAAKSHIAAAJOIUA== Message-ID: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CED2@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> References: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CEA7@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> <7EA643C653F17F4C80DE959E978F10EDB47A3550A6@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> In-Reply-To: <7EA643C653F17F4C80DE959E978F10EDB47A3550A6@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =1, 2, 3 invalid for latest version of Xenserver X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0632066367550143048==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============0632066367550143048== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CED2BANPMAILBOX01_" --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CED2BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks a ton !! . Really appreciate the quick response John. Please do let= me know when the xapi-document gets updated. Thank you once again. PANKAJ From: John Else Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:54 PM To: Pankaj Kumar Biswas; xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: RE: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =3D1, 2, 3 invalid for latest vers= ion of Xenserver > In Xenserver 6.0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy we cannot set to 1,2 = or 3 ...only we can make it to best-effort and restart.. > > Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason to do so?? Do we have any docu= mentation regarding that?? Hi Pankaj, The HA API was changed in XenServer 6.0 - there is a new VM field "order", = which is used together with ha-restart-priority to define a VM's HA behavio= ur. Where previously you would have set a VM's restart priority to 1, you would= now call: xe vm-param-set uuid=3D ha-restart-priority=3Drestart order=3D1 The order field can hold any non-negative 64 bit integer, and VMs with a lo= wer order will be restarted first after an HA failover. It looks like the administrator's guide still refers to the old API - I'll = see about getting this updated. Thanks, John --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CED2BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks a ton !! .  Really appreciate the quick response = John. Please do let me know when the xapi-document gets updated.=

Thank you onc= e again.

 

PANKAJ

 

 

From: John Else
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:54 PMTo: Pankaj Kumar Biswas; xen-api@lists.xensource.com
Subject:= RE: [Xen-API] ha-restart-policy =3D1, 2, 3 invalid for latest version = of Xenserver

&nb= sp;

> In Xenserver 6.= 0 (boston release) ha-restart-policy we cannot set to 1,2 or 3 ...only we c= an make it to best-effort and restart..

> 

> Is it true?? If yes may I have the reason t= o do so??  Do we have any documentation regarding that??

<= o:p> 

Hi Pankaj,

 

The HA API was chan= ged in XenServer 6.0 – there is a new VM field “order”, w= hich is used together with ha-restart-priority to define a VM’s HA be= haviour.

Where previously you would have set a VM’s restart= priority to 1, you would now call:

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>xe vm-param-set uuid=3D<vm-uuid> ha-restart-priority=3D= restart order=3D1

 

The = order field can hold any non-negative 64 bit integer, and VMs with a lower = order will be restarted first after an HA failover.

 

It looks like the administrator’s guide still refers to the old A= PI – I’ll see about getting this updated.

=

 =

Thanks,

John

 

= --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230CED2BANPMAILBOX01_-- --===============0632066367550143048== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============0632066367550143048==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 13 13:02:31 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:02:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaS01-0000LL-8n; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:02:25 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaRzz-0000LG-Jn for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:02:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323781288!7255000!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjAzMzQ=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 30132 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2011 13:01:29 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-6.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Dec 2011 13:01:29 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,344,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="173931419" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 13 Dec 2011 08:01:27 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:01:27 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE74CA6.2090009@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:01:26 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Whitla References: <0E9AE435-28B6-41B3-8808-4F4D16AB48E8@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <0E9AE435-28B6-41B3-8808-4F4D16AB48E8@ocean.net.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Where to log bugs against Kronos? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 13/12/11 06:38, Dave Whitla wrote: > Hi list members. Forgive me if this is documented somewhere. I've spent the last hour searching for any mention of it. > Where can I log bugs (with patches) against the Kronos project? > Do you have a JIRA, Bugzilla or something somewhere. Links on the Wiki would be appreciated also. > We haven't officially decided on the best place to report bugs, for either XCP or Kronos, which is why there's no wiki doc on this topic. I do have a Launchpad project set up for XCP, where I've started reporting bugs (mainly for the purpose of testing Lauchpad to see if it will work for us). Please go ahead and log your bug report to the Lauchpad bug tracker [1], and reply here with a link to the new bug report. If people like the new bug tracker, perhaps we'll make it official and write about it on the wiki. Mike [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/xcp _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 13 13:02:31 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:02:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaS01-0000LL-8n; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:02:25 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RaRzz-0000LG-Jn for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:02:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323781288!7255000!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjAzMzQ=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 30132 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2011 13:01:29 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-6.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Dec 2011 13:01:29 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,344,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="173931419" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 13 Dec 2011 08:01:27 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:01:27 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE74CA6.2090009@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:01:26 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Whitla References: <0E9AE435-28B6-41B3-8808-4F4D16AB48E8@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <0E9AE435-28B6-41B3-8808-4F4D16AB48E8@ocean.net.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Where to log bugs against Kronos? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 13/12/11 06:38, Dave Whitla wrote: > Hi list members. Forgive me if this is documented somewhere. I've spent the last hour searching for any mention of it. > Where can I log bugs (with patches) against the Kronos project? > Do you have a JIRA, Bugzilla or something somewhere. Links on the Wiki would be appreciated also. > We haven't officially decided on the best place to report bugs, for either XCP or Kronos, which is why there's no wiki doc on this topic. I do have a Launchpad project set up for XCP, where I've started reporting bugs (mainly for the purpose of testing Lauchpad to see if it will work for us). Please go ahead and log your bug report to the Lauchpad bug tracker [1], and reply here with a link to the new bug report. If people like the new bug tracker, perhaps we'll make it official and write about it on the wiki. Mike [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/xcp _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 00:25:39 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:25:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Racf4-0003IL-H8; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:25:30 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Racf3-0003IG-8y for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:25:29 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323822272!7364207!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 4467 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 00:24:33 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-9.tower-216.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 00:24:33 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 15FC82805E for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:24:30 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Whitla Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:24:24 +1000 Message-Id: To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Xen-API] Successful Kronos deployments? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com I realise the current alpha state of the project and I'm eager to help move it to production-ready. I'd just like to benchmark my experience with Kronos thus far somehow. I have had a fully functional Xen solution for some time now based on Debian Wheezy (kernel 3.1.1), the Xen 4.1.2 hypervisor and associated packages from Wheezy, Open vSwitch 1.2.2 (with my own patch for kernel 3.1) and the Pacemaker cluster framework. All my Xen daemons are started by pacemaker as a lot of shared config is kept on an OCFS2 filesystem on clustered LVM on SAN over fibre channel. My guest disk images are LVM logical volumes which are concurrently active on all nodes in the cluster via the FC SAN. I've been managing provisioning, migration etc using some custom management scripts which I run from a virtual machine on the cluster. The cluster config has enough to bootstrap the cluster and start my management vm. I like using Pacemaker for this as it is very easy to integrate with other parts of the OS to manage things like resource colocation and automatic live migration of guests when the host node shuts down. Incidentally I always provision using debootstrap and APT for Debian guests or kickstart over the network for RHEL guests - I really don't like the VMWare and Amazon approach of cloning templates. Typical host provisioning takes about 90 seconds. Recently I have been forced to integrate some form of GUI management tool because my users find the command line "too hard". After testing a few options the only one which seems to meet their needs is XenCenter - so I've started integrating xapi into my cluster using packages from the Kronos project. So far I've been able to connect XenCenter (downloaded from a XenServer 6.0.0 installation) to my test xapi-on-Debian node. But I can't create any SR's, networking can't be configured from the GUI (I've set the network model to openvswitch in /etc/xcp/network.conf) and the location of XCP config files is very different from that mentioned in the limited documentation. I'd appreciate any pointers to documentation that isn't linked to from the WIKI as I've already read everything there. There don't seem to be any man pages in the packages themselves. I'd also really like to hear from anyone with a similar setup that is working for them - even if only in part. Thanks for any assistance. Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 00:25:39 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:25:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Racf4-0003IL-H8; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:25:30 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Racf3-0003IG-8y for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:25:29 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323822272!7364207!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 4467 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 00:24:33 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-9.tower-216.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 00:24:33 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 15FC82805E for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:24:30 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Whitla Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:24:24 +1000 Message-Id: To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Xen-API] Successful Kronos deployments? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com I realise the current alpha state of the project and I'm eager to help move it to production-ready. I'd just like to benchmark my experience with Kronos thus far somehow. I have had a fully functional Xen solution for some time now based on Debian Wheezy (kernel 3.1.1), the Xen 4.1.2 hypervisor and associated packages from Wheezy, Open vSwitch 1.2.2 (with my own patch for kernel 3.1) and the Pacemaker cluster framework. All my Xen daemons are started by pacemaker as a lot of shared config is kept on an OCFS2 filesystem on clustered LVM on SAN over fibre channel. My guest disk images are LVM logical volumes which are concurrently active on all nodes in the cluster via the FC SAN. I've been managing provisioning, migration etc using some custom management scripts which I run from a virtual machine on the cluster. The cluster config has enough to bootstrap the cluster and start my management vm. I like using Pacemaker for this as it is very easy to integrate with other parts of the OS to manage things like resource colocation and automatic live migration of guests when the host node shuts down. Incidentally I always provision using debootstrap and APT for Debian guests or kickstart over the network for RHEL guests - I really don't like the VMWare and Amazon approach of cloning templates. Typical host provisioning takes about 90 seconds. Recently I have been forced to integrate some form of GUI management tool because my users find the command line "too hard". After testing a few options the only one which seems to meet their needs is XenCenter - so I've started integrating xapi into my cluster using packages from the Kronos project. So far I've been able to connect XenCenter (downloaded from a XenServer 6.0.0 installation) to my test xapi-on-Debian node. But I can't create any SR's, networking can't be configured from the GUI (I've set the network model to openvswitch in /etc/xcp/network.conf) and the location of XCP config files is very different from that mentioned in the limited documentation. I'd appreciate any pointers to documentation that isn't linked to from the WIKI as I've already read everything there. There don't seem to be any man pages in the packages themselves. I'd also really like to hear from anyone with a similar setup that is working for them - even if only in part. Thanks for any assistance. Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 01:52:40 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:52:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rae1H-0008Iv-D7; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:52:31 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rae1E-0008Iq-OX for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:52:29 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1323827492!5455202!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28223 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 01:51:33 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-10.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 01:51:33 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D0722805E for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:51:31 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Whitla Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:51:25 +1000 Message-Id: <75699F41-CA85-4C40-AAF7-692934BF3FF6@ocean.net.au> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Xen-API] Kronos and patched LVM? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi all, I've been working through this issue: SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_53: [ ; Logical Volume unmount/deactivate error [opterr=errno is 3]; ] when attempting to create an LVM backed SR on Kronos. I've read in the list archives that LVM on XenServer and XCP is patched to use xapi as the cluster lock manager. Why? DLM and CLVM are mature and work just fine. Why reinvent the wheel for no gain? Just trying to understand as this design choice as this makes it very hard to integrate Kronos with a working Debian cluster. Thanks, Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 01:52:40 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:52:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rae1H-0008Iv-D7; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:52:31 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rae1E-0008Iq-OX for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:52:29 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1323827492!5455202!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28223 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 01:51:33 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-10.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 01:51:33 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D0722805E for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:51:31 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Whitla Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:51:25 +1000 Message-Id: <75699F41-CA85-4C40-AAF7-692934BF3FF6@ocean.net.au> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Xen-API] Kronos and patched LVM? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi all, I've been working through this issue: SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_53: [ ; Logical Volume unmount/deactivate error [opterr=errno is 3]; ] when attempting to create an LVM backed SR on Kronos. I've read in the list archives that LVM on XenServer and XCP is patched to use xapi as the cluster lock manager. Why? DLM and CLVM are mature and work just fine. Why reinvent the wheel for no gain? Just trying to understand as this design choice as this makes it very hard to integrate Kronos with a working Debian cluster. Thanks, Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 05:16:12 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:16:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RahCF-0002Hg-Nk; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:16:03 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RahCD-0002HP-OX for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:16:02 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1323839705!7154033!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 13443 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 05:15:06 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-14.tower-182.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 05:15:06 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 208892805E for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:15:04 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:14:58 +1000 Message-Id: <230A2122-C4AB-4B3E-8485-C84584CFF156@ocean.net.au> References: To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Successful Kronos deployments? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com As an update, I have succeeded in creating an LVM SR after hacking on the sm python scripts. It seems xapi tries to fulfil roles in the stack that I have already allocated to standard components. I was trying earlier to create an LVMoHBA SR but as I already manage multipathing and cluster locking at the OS level this will not work. The python sm scripts also contain numerous references to utility paths (such as /sbin/pidof) which are RedHat derivative specific, so I needed to change these to their Debian/Ubuntu equivalents before I could at least get the LVM SR working. I also had to remove the use of the vgchange --master option which is peculiar to a XenCenter LVM patch (I have no need of it anyway on pacemaker managed CLVM). I will log bugs for the above as soon as I have created patches to submit. I hope this helps others. Dave On 14/12/2011, at 10:24 AM, Dave Whitla wrote: > I realise the current alpha state of the project and I'm eager to help move it to production-ready. > > I'd just like to benchmark my experience with Kronos thus far somehow. ... _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 05:16:12 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:16:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RahCF-0002Hg-Nk; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:16:03 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RahCD-0002HP-OX for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:16:02 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1323839705!7154033!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 13443 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 05:15:06 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-14.tower-182.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 05:15:06 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 208892805E for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:15:04 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:14:58 +1000 Message-Id: <230A2122-C4AB-4B3E-8485-C84584CFF156@ocean.net.au> References: To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Successful Kronos deployments? X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com As an update, I have succeeded in creating an LVM SR after hacking on the sm python scripts. It seems xapi tries to fulfil roles in the stack that I have already allocated to standard components. I was trying earlier to create an LVMoHBA SR but as I already manage multipathing and cluster locking at the OS level this will not work. The python sm scripts also contain numerous references to utility paths (such as /sbin/pidof) which are RedHat derivative specific, so I needed to change these to their Debian/Ubuntu equivalents before I could at least get the LVM SR working. I also had to remove the use of the vgchange --master option which is peculiar to a XenCenter LVM patch (I have no need of it anyway on pacemaker managed CLVM). I will log bugs for the above as soon as I have created patches to submit. I hope this helps others. Dave On 14/12/2011, at 10:24 AM, Dave Whitla wrote: > I realise the current alpha state of the project and I'm eager to help move it to production-ready. > > I'd just like to benchmark my experience with Kronos thus far somehow. ... _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 17:29:40 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:29:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rase5-0001Oy-Ql; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:29:33 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rase4-0001Oq-UQ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:29:33 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323883681!50629795!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMDYyMDY=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 7246 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 17:28:02 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 17:28:02 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,353,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="19963472" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 14 Dec 2011 12:28:40 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:28:40 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:28:39 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pasi_K=E4rkk=E4inen?= References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> In-Reply-To: <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: Enzo Lombardi , "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 11/12/11 19:06, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen wrote: > Hey, > = > I think we should use the name "XCP" only for the appliance, > and maybe just "XAPI toolstack" for the packages in Debian/Ubuntu? = > = > Does that make sense? Some people are getting confused about what XCP is.. > = I think that does make sense, Pasi. For the Debian packages, I think I'd like to call them the "XCP toolstack" packages. And for a Debian host with the XCP toolstack installed, perhaps we should just call it a Kronos host? I'd like the name Kronos to drop away, but it seems like the easiest way to differentiate the two. Does anyone else have any suggestions? Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 17:29:40 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:29:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rase5-0001Oy-Ql; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:29:33 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rase4-0001Oq-UQ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:29:33 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323883681!50629795!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMDYyMDY=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 7246 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 17:28:02 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 17:28:02 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,353,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="19963472" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 14 Dec 2011 12:28:40 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:28:40 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:28:39 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pasi_K=E4rkk=E4inen?= References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> In-Reply-To: <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: Enzo Lombardi , "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 11/12/11 19:06, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen wrote: > Hey, > = > I think we should use the name "XCP" only for the appliance, > and maybe just "XAPI toolstack" for the packages in Debian/Ubuntu? = > = > Does that make sense? Some people are getting confused about what XCP is.. > = I think that does make sense, Pasi. For the Debian packages, I think I'd like to call them the "XCP toolstack" packages. And for a Debian host with the XCP toolstack installed, perhaps we should just call it a Kronos host? I'd like the name Kronos to drop away, but it seems like the easiest way to differentiate the two. Does anyone else have any suggestions? Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 17:34:00 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:34:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RasiI-0001iS-U5; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:33:54 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RasiH-0001i9-I3; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:33:53 +0000 X-Env-Sender: alex@seamicro.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323883963!49301785!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.6.58.58] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 30313 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 17:32:43 -0000 Received: from smtp.seamicro.com (HELO smtp.seamicro.com) (71.6.58.58) by server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 17:32:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.seamicro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4B9439CEB; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:33:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at seamicro.com Received: from smtp.seamicro.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.seamicro.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AJKg8EABejUo; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.seamicro.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.seamicro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B508439CD8; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:32:59 -0800 (PST) From: "Alex Perez" To: "'Mike McClurg'" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?'Pasi_K=E4rkk=E4inen'?= References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:32:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.1.0_GA_3140 (ZimbraConnectorForOutlook/6.0.6089.9) Thread-Index: Acy6hh/fyHx+gHijQJma6i0mqC3Z+gAACA0A Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [192.168.25.208] Cc: 'Enzo Lombardi' , xen-users@lists.xensource.com, xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-api- > bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Mike McClurg > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:29 AM > To: Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen > Cc: Enzo Lombardi; xen-users@lists.xensource.com; xen-api@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 > availability] > > On 11/12/11 19:06, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen wrote: > > Hey, > > > > I think we should use the name "XCP" only for the appliance, > > and maybe just "XAPI toolstack" for the packages in Debian/Ubuntu? > > > > Does that make sense? Some people are getting confused about what XCP is.. > > > > I think that does make sense, Pasi. For the Debian packages, I think I'd > like to call them the "XCP toolstack" packages. And for a Debian host > with the XCP toolstack installed, perhaps we should just call it a > Kronos host? I'd like the name Kronos to drop away, but it seems like > the easiest way to differentiate the two. > > Does anyone else have any suggestions? Mike, I would go a single step further, and suggest that you not use the term "XCP" at all in the context of Kronos. There's already pleeenty of confusion about exactly what is what. Right now, XCP means one thing, and I would implore you to keep it that way. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 17:34:00 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:34:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RasiI-0001iS-U5; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:33:54 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RasiH-0001i9-I3; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:33:53 +0000 X-Env-Sender: alex@seamicro.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323883963!49301785!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.6.58.58] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 30313 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 17:32:43 -0000 Received: from smtp.seamicro.com (HELO smtp.seamicro.com) (71.6.58.58) by server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 17:32:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.seamicro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4B9439CEB; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:33:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at seamicro.com Received: from smtp.seamicro.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.seamicro.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AJKg8EABejUo; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.seamicro.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.seamicro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B508439CD8; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:32:59 -0800 (PST) From: "Alex Perez" To: "'Mike McClurg'" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?'Pasi_K=E4rkk=E4inen'?= References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:32:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.1.0_GA_3140 (ZimbraConnectorForOutlook/6.0.6089.9) Thread-Index: Acy6hh/fyHx+gHijQJma6i0mqC3Z+gAACA0A Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [192.168.25.208] Cc: 'Enzo Lombardi' , xen-users@lists.xensource.com, xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-api- > bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Mike McClurg > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:29 AM > To: Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen > Cc: Enzo Lombardi; xen-users@lists.xensource.com; xen-api@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 > availability] > > On 11/12/11 19:06, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen wrote: > > Hey, > > > > I think we should use the name "XCP" only for the appliance, > > and maybe just "XAPI toolstack" for the packages in Debian/Ubuntu? > > > > Does that make sense? Some people are getting confused about what XCP is.. > > > > I think that does make sense, Pasi. For the Debian packages, I think I'd > like to call them the "XCP toolstack" packages. And for a Debian host > with the XCP toolstack installed, perhaps we should just call it a > Kronos host? I'd like the name Kronos to drop away, but it seems like > the easiest way to differentiate the two. > > Does anyone else have any suggestions? Mike, I would go a single step further, and suggest that you not use the term "XCP" at all in the context of Kronos. There's already pleeenty of confusion about exactly what is what. Right now, XCP means one thing, and I would implore you to keep it that way. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 18:02:25 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:02:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rat9n-0002Z7-An; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:02:19 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rat9l-0002Ye-Ur; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:02:18 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323885647!52447969!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjA4OTk=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 24564 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 18:00:49 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-4.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 18:00:49 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,353,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="174156767" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 14 Dec 2011 13:01:19 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:01:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:01:17 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Perez References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> In-Reply-To: <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: 'Enzo Lombardi' , "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 14/12/11 17:32, Alex Perez wrote: > I would go a single step further, and suggest that you not use the term > "XCP" at all in the context of Kronos. There's already pleeenty of > confusion about exactly what is what. Right now, XCP means one thing, and > I would implore you to keep it that way. One of the biggest effects of this confusion is that people are now worried that XCP will become completely unstable, like Fedora versus RHEL, and thus won't be suitable for serious enterprise deployments. Perhaps just calling it Kronos is a good idea. Though our packaging is nearly complete, and they are all prefixed with 'xcp-'... I suppose we can leave that as it is, since it is the XCP toolstack we're installing. Does anyone else feel this strongly about calling it Kronos, and NOT mentioning XCP? Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 18:02:25 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:02:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rat9n-0002Z7-An; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:02:19 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rat9l-0002Ye-Ur; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:02:18 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323885647!52447969!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjA4OTk=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 24564 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 18:00:49 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-4.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 18:00:49 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,353,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="174156767" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 14 Dec 2011 13:01:19 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:01:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:01:17 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Perez References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> In-Reply-To: <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: 'Enzo Lombardi' , "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 14/12/11 17:32, Alex Perez wrote: > I would go a single step further, and suggest that you not use the term > "XCP" at all in the context of Kronos. There's already pleeenty of > confusion about exactly what is what. Right now, XCP means one thing, and > I would implore you to keep it that way. One of the biggest effects of this confusion is that people are now worried that XCP will become completely unstable, like Fedora versus RHEL, and thus won't be suitable for serious enterprise deployments. Perhaps just calling it Kronos is a good idea. Though our packaging is nearly complete, and they are all prefixed with 'xcp-'... I suppose we can leave that as it is, since it is the XCP toolstack we're installing. Does anyone else feel this strongly about calling it Kronos, and NOT mentioning XCP? Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 18:14:40 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:14:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RatLd-0003K8-RG; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:14:33 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RatLc-0003Jr-2w; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:14:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: outbackdingo@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323886415!7488904!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.213.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 8008 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 18:13:36 -0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-yw0-f43.google.com) (209.85.213.43) by server-12.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 18:13:36 -0000 Received: by yhr49 with SMTP id 49so28728520yhr.30 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:13:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=AZZDSpl/3+4JmoXVM+mjVHm7AbUtr/FhHyuaCAu8UmA=; b=Ku78Y/Cdk9TnkKhohNiRZopqeDGHNfqnXPmNougdh9C5mJZiDsncBvkjthk0SA3S2t 7dLhcqxA/hHHvqqn8tD9eyjmkVidTHfvpfU2HDWwd4DBey8hUucmHvNWDucry1Vbod1X p6dK6Z9JMtq3Hl6Dh4YKi7K0RrxAwsUJgS0lM= Received: by 10.236.197.105 with SMTP id s69mr4098389yhn.110.1323886415016; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (153.103.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com. [97.102.103.153]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y58sm4817282yhi.17.2011.12.14.10.13.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:13:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1323886412.3669.9.camel@dingo-D900C> From: dingo To: Mike McClurg Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:13:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.1- Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" , 'Enzo Lombardi' , "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 18:01 +0000, Mike McClurg wrote: > On 14/12/11 17:32, Alex Perez wrote: > > I would go a single step further, and suggest that you not use the term > > "XCP" at all in the context of Kronos. There's already pleeenty of > > confusion about exactly what is what. Right now, XCP means one thing, and > > I would implore you to keep it that way. > > One of the biggest effects of this confusion is that people are now > worried that XCP will become completely unstable, like Fedora versus > RHEL, and thus won't be suitable for serious enterprise deployments. > > Perhaps just calling it Kronos is a good idea. Though our packaging is > nearly complete, and they are all prefixed with 'xcp-'... I suppose we > can leave that as it is, since it is the XCP toolstack we're installing. > Does anyone else feel this strongly about calling it Kronos, and NOT > mentioning XCP? I prefer it with the XCP label, though xcp-debian might be better > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 18:14:40 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:14:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RatLd-0003K8-RG; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:14:33 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RatLc-0003Jr-2w; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:14:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: outbackdingo@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323886415!7488904!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.213.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 8008 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 18:13:36 -0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-yw0-f43.google.com) (209.85.213.43) by server-12.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 18:13:36 -0000 Received: by yhr49 with SMTP id 49so28728520yhr.30 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:13:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=AZZDSpl/3+4JmoXVM+mjVHm7AbUtr/FhHyuaCAu8UmA=; b=Ku78Y/Cdk9TnkKhohNiRZopqeDGHNfqnXPmNougdh9C5mJZiDsncBvkjthk0SA3S2t 7dLhcqxA/hHHvqqn8tD9eyjmkVidTHfvpfU2HDWwd4DBey8hUucmHvNWDucry1Vbod1X p6dK6Z9JMtq3Hl6Dh4YKi7K0RrxAwsUJgS0lM= Received: by 10.236.197.105 with SMTP id s69mr4098389yhn.110.1323886415016; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (153.103.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com. [97.102.103.153]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y58sm4817282yhi.17.2011.12.14.10.13.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:13:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1323886412.3669.9.camel@dingo-D900C> From: dingo To: Mike McClurg Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:13:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.1- Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" , 'Enzo Lombardi' , "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 18:01 +0000, Mike McClurg wrote: > On 14/12/11 17:32, Alex Perez wrote: > > I would go a single step further, and suggest that you not use the term > > "XCP" at all in the context of Kronos. There's already pleeenty of > > confusion about exactly what is what. Right now, XCP means one thing, and > > I would implore you to keep it that way. > > One of the biggest effects of this confusion is that people are now > worried that XCP will become completely unstable, like Fedora versus > RHEL, and thus won't be suitable for serious enterprise deployments. > > Perhaps just calling it Kronos is a good idea. Though our packaging is > nearly complete, and they are all prefixed with 'xcp-'... I suppose we > can leave that as it is, since it is the XCP toolstack we're installing. > Does anyone else feel this strongly about calling it Kronos, and NOT > mentioning XCP? I prefer it with the XCP label, though xcp-debian might be better > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 18:37:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:37:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RathN-0004CU-NM; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:37:01 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RathM-0004CO-3f for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:37:00 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323887708!60757827!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19380 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 18:35:08 -0000 Received: from mail-ey0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-ey0-f171.google.com) (209.85.215.171) by server-7.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 18:35:08 -0000 Received: by eaa1 with SMTP id 1so3504932eaa.30 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:36:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=55TbFnqzfQCG6j+tsFwrIX5R/lkXqBGj87dyMEBvzLk=; b=BoayrG7oquWQuUF8drJYZUeFZcmkQIyqf6nbCbAG94hcsJ8LvXkuDVmuz5mrOUbba3 BJPxFM1i0XW5n0AJIhJQ0VtcIDz2ZZOjeJ8PDw9JUXaJX7cl07OTx/iUQ3aUTefiZ1zJ R5KhdYtqYX2rEfj4m0HYzff6TpShh4KDeTWoQ= Received: by 10.205.129.137 with SMTP id hi9mr1840844bkc.90.1323887760576; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.40.44] (officecvt.selectel.ru. [188.93.16.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fg16sm7991195bkb.16.2011.12.14.10.35.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:35:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE8EC8B.4060606@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:35:55 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111209 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000201030606040204060402" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000201030606040204060402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 14.12.2011 21:28, Mike McClurg wrote: >> I think we should use the name "XCP" only for the appliance, >> and maybe just "XAPI toolstack" for the packages in Debian/Ubuntu? >> >> Does that make sense? Some people are getting confused about what XCP is.. >> > I think that does make sense, Pasi. For the Debian packages, I think I'd > like to call them the "XCP toolstack" packages. And for a Debian host > with the XCP toolstack installed, perhaps we should just call it a > Kronos host? I'd like the name Kronos to drop away, but it seems like > the easiest way to differentiate the two. > > Does anyone else have any suggestions? > XCP is Xen Cloud Platform, which means it provides ready-out-of-box system. This includes every piece of current installation, includes xs-tools.iso, pre-created iso sr and other stuff. When we talking about toolstack it must be toolstack, not the 'platfrorm'. We can note XCP in description, but definitively not in name. In our internal documentation I usually call all stuff around xapi (includes patched LVM, SM and so on) as xapi-toolstack. I think this will make very easy to understand model. +xend toolstack (Open Source, by community) / / +----- XenServer (Proprientary, by Citrix) / + appiances ----+ -----Xen Cloud Platform (Open Source, by Citrix) / / Xen + xapi toolstack -----+ ------kronos (Open source, ... by community?) If this looks ugly I've attach litte diagram in png. 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[188.93.16.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fg16sm7991195bkb.16.2011.12.14.10.35.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:35:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE8EC8B.4060606@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:35:55 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111209 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000201030606040204060402" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000201030606040204060402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 14.12.2011 21:28, Mike McClurg wrote: >> I think we should use the name "XCP" only for the appliance, >> and maybe just "XAPI toolstack" for the packages in Debian/Ubuntu? >> >> Does that make sense? Some people are getting confused about what XCP is.. >> > I think that does make sense, Pasi. For the Debian packages, I think I'd > like to call them the "XCP toolstack" packages. And for a Debian host > with the XCP toolstack installed, perhaps we should just call it a > Kronos host? I'd like the name Kronos to drop away, but it seems like > the easiest way to differentiate the two. > > Does anyone else have any suggestions? > XCP is Xen Cloud Platform, which means it provides ready-out-of-box system. This includes every piece of current installation, includes xs-tools.iso, pre-created iso sr and other stuff. When we talking about toolstack it must be toolstack, not the 'platfrorm'. We can note XCP in description, but definitively not in name. In our internal documentation I usually call all stuff around xapi (includes patched LVM, SM and so on) as xapi-toolstack. I think this will make very easy to understand model. +xend toolstack (Open Source, by community) / / +----- XenServer (Proprientary, by Citrix) / + appiances ----+ -----Xen Cloud Platform (Open Source, by Citrix) / / Xen + xapi toolstack -----+ ------kronos (Open source, ... by community?) If this looks ugly I've attach litte diagram in png. 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xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 18:40:39 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:40:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ratkn-0004K9-7u; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:40:33 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ratkm-0004K4-G0 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:40:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: alex@seamicro.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323887962!49308533!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.6.58.58] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21962 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 18:39:22 -0000 Received: from smtp.seamicro.com (HELO smtp.seamicro.com) (71.6.58.58) by server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 18:39:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.seamicro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C53C439D29; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:39:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at seamicro.com Received: from smtp.seamicro.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.seamicro.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wwk6jzIf4lmF; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.seamicro.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.seamicro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00293439D1F; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:39:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Alex Perez" To: "'George Shuklin'" , References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <4EE8EC8B.4060606@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE8EC8B.4060606@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:39:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001c01ccba8f$bb5018a0$31f049e0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.1.0_GA_3140 (ZimbraConnectorForOutlook/6.0.6089.9) Thread-Index: Acy6j3adXe+QrZhuQrKgogsl57CxigAACduQ Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [192.168.25.208] Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-api- > bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of George Shuklin > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:36 AM > To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 > availability] > > On 14.12.2011 21:28, Mike McClurg wrote: > >> I think we should use the name "XCP" only for the appliance, > >> and maybe just "XAPI toolstack" for the packages in Debian/Ubuntu? > >> > >> Does that make sense? Some people are getting confused about what XCP is.. > >> > > I think that does make sense, Pasi. For the Debian packages, I think I'd > > like to call them the "XCP toolstack" packages. And for a Debian host > > with the XCP toolstack installed, perhaps we should just call it a > > Kronos host? I'd like the name Kronos to drop away, but it seems like > > the easiest way to differentiate the two. > > > > Does anyone else have any suggestions? > > > XCP is Xen Cloud Platform, which means it provides ready-out-of-box > system. This includes every piece of current installation, includes > xs-tools.iso, pre-created iso sr and other stuff. When we talking about > toolstack it must be toolstack, not the 'platfrorm'. We can note XCP in > description, but definitively not in name. > > In our internal documentation I usually call all stuff around xapi > (includes patched LVM, SM and so on) as xapi-toolstack. I think this > will make very easy to understand model. +1 _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 14 18:40:39 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:40:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ratkn-0004K9-7u; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:40:33 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ratkm-0004K4-G0 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:40:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: alex@seamicro.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323887962!49308533!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.6.58.58] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21962 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 18:39:22 -0000 Received: from smtp.seamicro.com (HELO smtp.seamicro.com) (71.6.58.58) by server-11.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 18:39:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.seamicro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C53C439D29; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:39:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at seamicro.com Received: from smtp.seamicro.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.seamicro.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wwk6jzIf4lmF; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.seamicro.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.seamicro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00293439D1F; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:39:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Alex Perez" To: "'George Shuklin'" , References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <4EE8EC8B.4060606@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE8EC8B.4060606@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:39:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001c01ccba8f$bb5018a0$31f049e0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.1.0_GA_3140 (ZimbraConnectorForOutlook/6.0.6089.9) Thread-Index: Acy6j3adXe+QrZhuQrKgogsl57CxigAACduQ Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [192.168.25.208] Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-api- > bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of George Shuklin > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:36 AM > To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 > availability] > > On 14.12.2011 21:28, Mike McClurg wrote: > >> I think we should use the name "XCP" only for the appliance, > >> and maybe just "XAPI toolstack" for the packages in Debian/Ubuntu? > >> > >> Does that make sense? Some people are getting confused about what XCP is.. > >> > > I think that does make sense, Pasi. For the Debian packages, I think I'd > > like to call them the "XCP toolstack" packages. And for a Debian host > > with the XCP toolstack installed, perhaps we should just call it a > > Kronos host? I'd like the name Kronos to drop away, but it seems like > > the easiest way to differentiate the two. > > > > Does anyone else have any suggestions? > > > XCP is Xen Cloud Platform, which means it provides ready-out-of-box > system. This includes every piece of current installation, includes > xs-tools.iso, pre-created iso sr and other stuff. When we talking about > toolstack it must be toolstack, not the 'platfrorm'. We can note XCP in > description, but definitively not in name. > > In our internal documentation I usually call all stuff around xapi > (includes patched LVM, SM and so on) as xapi-toolstack. I think this > will make very easy to understand model. +1 _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 15 12:03:05 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:03:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbA1Z-0002Ut-GG; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:02:57 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbA1X-0002UN-O3; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:02:55 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pasik@iki.fi X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1323950518!5676886!1 X-Originating-IP: [192.89.123.25] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTkyLjg5LjEyMy4yNSA9PiAzOTU3MzU=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27313 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2011 12:01:59 -0000 Received: from smtp.tele.fi (HELO smtp.tele.fi) (192.89.123.25) by server-11.tower-174.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Dec 2011 12:01:59 -0000 X-Originating-Ip: [194.89.68.22] Received: from ydin.reaktio.net (reaktio.net [194.89.68.22]) by smtp.tele.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2A22DA0; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:01:56 +0200 (EET) Received: by ydin.reaktio.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9335420054; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:01:56 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:01:56 +0200 From: Pasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4rkk=E4inen?= To: Mike McClurg Message-ID: <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" , 'Enzo Lombardi' , "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 06:01:17PM +0000, Mike McClurg wrote: > On 14/12/11 17:32, Alex Perez wrote: > > I would go a single step further, and suggest that you not use the term > > "XCP" at all in the context of Kronos. There's already pleeenty of > > confusion about exactly what is what. Right now, XCP means one thing, and > > I would implore you to keep it that way. > > One of the biggest effects of this confusion is that people are now > worried that XCP will become completely unstable, like Fedora versus > RHEL, and thus won't be suitable for serious enterprise deployments. > > Perhaps just calling it Kronos is a good idea. Though our packaging is > nearly complete, and they are all prefixed with 'xcp-'... I suppose we > can leave that as it is, since it is the XCP toolstack we're installing. > Does anyone else feel this strongly about calling it Kronos, and NOT > mentioning XCP? > Imho, if possible, the debian/ubuntu package names should be changed, xcp- in the deb package names will cause a lot of confusion. xapi- is better, or kronos-, for the deb packages. I think 'xcp' should be used only for the .iso image appliance.. -- Pasi _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 15 12:03:05 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:03:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbA1Z-0002Ut-GG; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:02:57 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbA1X-0002UN-O3; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:02:55 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pasik@iki.fi X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1323950518!5676886!1 X-Originating-IP: [192.89.123.25] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTkyLjg5LjEyMy4yNSA9PiAzOTU3MzU=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27313 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2011 12:01:59 -0000 Received: from smtp.tele.fi (HELO smtp.tele.fi) (192.89.123.25) by server-11.tower-174.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Dec 2011 12:01:59 -0000 X-Originating-Ip: [194.89.68.22] Received: from ydin.reaktio.net (reaktio.net [194.89.68.22]) by smtp.tele.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2A22DA0; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:01:56 +0200 (EET) Received: by ydin.reaktio.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9335420054; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:01:56 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:01:56 +0200 From: Pasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4rkk=E4inen?= To: Mike McClurg Message-ID: <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" , 'Enzo Lombardi' , "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 06:01:17PM +0000, Mike McClurg wrote: > On 14/12/11 17:32, Alex Perez wrote: > > I would go a single step further, and suggest that you not use the term > > "XCP" at all in the context of Kronos. There's already pleeenty of > > confusion about exactly what is what. Right now, XCP means one thing, and > > I would implore you to keep it that way. > > One of the biggest effects of this confusion is that people are now > worried that XCP will become completely unstable, like Fedora versus > RHEL, and thus won't be suitable for serious enterprise deployments. > > Perhaps just calling it Kronos is a good idea. Though our packaging is > nearly complete, and they are all prefixed with 'xcp-'... I suppose we > can leave that as it is, since it is the XCP toolstack we're installing. > Does anyone else feel this strongly about calling it Kronos, and NOT > mentioning XCP? > Imho, if possible, the debian/ubuntu package names should be changed, xcp- in the deb package names will cause a lot of confusion. xapi- is better, or kronos-, for the deb packages. I think 'xcp' should be used only for the .iso image appliance.. -- Pasi _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 15 12:43:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:43:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbAez-0005FQ-Ke; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:43:41 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbAew-0005Eq-Nw; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:43:38 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323952928!52567005!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.161.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=3.1 required=7.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP,SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19285 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2011 12:42:09 -0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-fx0-f43.google.com) (209.85.161.43) by server-4.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Dec 2011 12:42:09 -0000 Received: by faap21 with SMTP id p21so4767467faa.30 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 04:42:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; bh=0g2R4jqg6PIeMO08F81ZFQuzWB11DlQfDpA87fKXQwI=; b=J4ReF3l1hIRRgiThWrL1rTcBnOXMFHWdvVKbxjkfD/HRTJAnMQVHvcqjno/n6vxblz nz+xDyEutTj1D2l1QI5KwAfMaIQY+hoLcTUMuJpoMSp+CyzRuy5Tbc8gtEGSpMHn0r4r jXpkB9YKff/4gcC6PCPUmv6UhpZZi6nYdYfdU= Received: by 10.180.94.71 with SMTP id da7mr4543758wib.29.1323952963360; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 04:42:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (5e0518fc.bb.sky.com. [94.5.24.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bl10sm8072795wib.15.2011.12.15.04.42.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 15 Dec 2011 04:42:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE9EB3E.4020707@xen.org> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:42:38 +0000 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , xen-arm@lists.xensource.com, xen-announce@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] Xen Hackathon hosted by Oracle Confirmed X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6304419864286459549==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============6304419864286459549== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050006080906080302060101" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050006080906080302060101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody, I wanted to conform the date and location of the next Xen Hackathon and wanted to thank Oracle for hosting the Event. Date: March 6-8 Location: Oracle campus in Santa Clara, CA, USA (*4030 George Sellon Circle, Santa Clara, CA 95054*) I created a wiki page to help with the planning and preparation http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Hackathon/March2012 - I am just about to go on vacation. More detail will follow early in January. Best Regards Lars --------------050006080906080302060101 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody,

I wanted to conform the date and location of the next Xen Hackathon and wanted to thank Oracle for hosting the Event.

Date: March 6-8
Location: Oracle campus in Santa Clara, CA, USA (4030 George Sellon Circle, Santa Clara, CA 95054)

I created a wiki page to help with the planning and preparation http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Hackathon/March2012 - I am just about to go on vacation. More detail will follow early in January.

Best Regards
Lars
--------------050006080906080302060101-- --===============6304419864286459549== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============6304419864286459549==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 15 12:43:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:43:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbAez-0005FQ-Ke; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:43:41 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbAew-0005Eq-Nw; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:43:38 +0000 X-Env-Sender: lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1323952928!52567005!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.161.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=3.1 required=7.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP,SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19285 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2011 12:42:09 -0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-fx0-f43.google.com) (209.85.161.43) by server-4.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Dec 2011 12:42:09 -0000 Received: by faap21 with SMTP id p21so4767467faa.30 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 04:42:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; bh=0g2R4jqg6PIeMO08F81ZFQuzWB11DlQfDpA87fKXQwI=; b=J4ReF3l1hIRRgiThWrL1rTcBnOXMFHWdvVKbxjkfD/HRTJAnMQVHvcqjno/n6vxblz nz+xDyEutTj1D2l1QI5KwAfMaIQY+hoLcTUMuJpoMSp+CyzRuy5Tbc8gtEGSpMHn0r4r jXpkB9YKff/4gcC6PCPUmv6UhpZZi6nYdYfdU= Received: by 10.180.94.71 with SMTP id da7mr4543758wib.29.1323952963360; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 04:42:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.25.10] (5e0518fc.bb.sky.com. [94.5.24.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bl10sm8072795wib.15.2011.12.15.04.42.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 15 Dec 2011 04:42:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE9EB3E.4020707@xen.org> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:42:38 +0000 From: Lars Kurth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , xen-arm@lists.xensource.com, xen-announce@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] Xen Hackathon hosted by Oracle Confirmed X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6304419864286459549==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============6304419864286459549== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050006080906080302060101" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050006080906080302060101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody, I wanted to conform the date and location of the next Xen Hackathon and wanted to thank Oracle for hosting the Event. Date: March 6-8 Location: Oracle campus in Santa Clara, CA, USA (*4030 George Sellon Circle, Santa Clara, CA 95054*) I created a wiki page to help with the planning and preparation http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Hackathon/March2012 - I am just about to go on vacation. More detail will follow early in January. Best Regards Lars --------------050006080906080302060101 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody,

I wanted to conform the date and location of the next Xen Hackathon and wanted to thank Oracle for hosting the Event.

Date: March 6-8
Location: Oracle campus in Santa Clara, CA, USA (4030 George Sellon Circle, Santa Clara, CA 95054)

I created a wiki page to help with the planning and preparation http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Hackathon/March2012 - I am just about to go on vacation. More detail will follow early in January.

Best Regards
Lars
--------------050006080906080302060101-- --===============6304419864286459549== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============6304419864286459549==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 15 13:08:55 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:08:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbB3J-0006Yv-So; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:08:49 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbB3H-0006YC-NN; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:08:47 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323954520!7553753!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMDY5Mjg=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21716 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2011 13:08:41 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-3.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Dec 2011 13:08:41 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,357,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="19991409" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 15 Dec 2011 08:08:39 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:08:39 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:08:38 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pasi_K=E4rkk=E4inen?= References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> In-Reply-To: <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" , 'Enzo Lombardi' , "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 15/12/11 12:01, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 06:01:17PM +0000, Mike McClurg wrote: >> On 14/12/11 17:32, Alex Perez wrote: >>> I would go a single step further, and suggest that you not use the term >>> "XCP" at all in the context of Kronos. There's already pleeenty of >>> confusion about exactly what is what. Right now, XCP means one thing, a= nd >>> I would implore you to keep it that way. >> >> One of the biggest effects of this confusion is that people are now >> worried that XCP will become completely unstable, like Fedora versus >> RHEL, and thus won't be suitable for serious enterprise deployments. >> >> Perhaps just calling it Kronos is a good idea. Though our packaging is >> nearly complete, and they are all prefixed with 'xcp-'... I suppose we >> can leave that as it is, since it is the XCP toolstack we're installing. >> Does anyone else feel this strongly about calling it Kronos, and NOT >> mentioning XCP? >> > = > Imho, if possible, the debian/ubuntu package names should be changed, > xcp- in the deb package names will cause a lot of confusion. > = > xapi- is better, or kronos-, for the deb packages. > = > I think 'xcp' should be used only for the .iso image appliance.. > = So, I hate to use this as an excuse, but there are actually already a few of our Kronos packages in Debian Sid right now with the name xcp-*. I actually think this is a good thing, because those packages are software that came from XCP, so to me it makes sense to call the packages xcp-blah. How about this compromise: We call "traditional" XCP, the thing that's based on CentOS and is delivered as a standalone ISO, the "XCP Distribution". We can then call the Kronos packages, the set of software that is installable on Debian and Ubuntu (and hopefully other distros in the future), the "XCP Toolstack". I think that this solution will remove some of the confusion about which thing is which. Will this be an acceptable compromise to everyone? Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 15 13:08:55 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:08:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbB3J-0006Yv-So; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:08:49 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbB3H-0006YC-NN; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:08:47 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1323954520!7553753!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMDY5Mjg=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21716 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2011 13:08:41 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-3.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Dec 2011 13:08:41 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,357,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="19991409" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 15 Dec 2011 08:08:39 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:08:39 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:08:38 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pasi_K=E4rkk=E4inen?= References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> In-Reply-To: <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" , 'Enzo Lombardi' , "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 15/12/11 12:01, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 06:01:17PM +0000, Mike McClurg wrote: >> On 14/12/11 17:32, Alex Perez wrote: >>> I would go a single step further, and suggest that you not use the term >>> "XCP" at all in the context of Kronos. There's already pleeenty of >>> confusion about exactly what is what. Right now, XCP means one thing, a= nd >>> I would implore you to keep it that way. >> >> One of the biggest effects of this confusion is that people are now >> worried that XCP will become completely unstable, like Fedora versus >> RHEL, and thus won't be suitable for serious enterprise deployments. >> >> Perhaps just calling it Kronos is a good idea. Though our packaging is >> nearly complete, and they are all prefixed with 'xcp-'... I suppose we >> can leave that as it is, since it is the XCP toolstack we're installing. >> Does anyone else feel this strongly about calling it Kronos, and NOT >> mentioning XCP? >> > = > Imho, if possible, the debian/ubuntu package names should be changed, > xcp- in the deb package names will cause a lot of confusion. > = > xapi- is better, or kronos-, for the deb packages. > = > I think 'xcp' should be used only for the .iso image appliance.. > = So, I hate to use this as an excuse, but there are actually already a few of our Kronos packages in Debian Sid right now with the name xcp-*. I actually think this is a good thing, because those packages are software that came from XCP, so to me it makes sense to call the packages xcp-blah. How about this compromise: We call "traditional" XCP, the thing that's based on CentOS and is delivered as a standalone ISO, the "XCP Distribution". We can then call the Kronos packages, the set of software that is installable on Debian and Ubuntu (and hopefully other distros in the future), the "XCP Toolstack". I think that this solution will remove some of the confusion about which thing is which. Will this be an acceptable compromise to everyone? Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 15 16:14:20 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:14:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbDwj-0000aj-1P; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:14:13 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbDwh-0000ab-JH for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:14:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pankaj.kumarbiswas@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1323965641!7554165!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.166.19.134] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMjAzLjE2Ni4xOS4xMzQgPT4gNDE0MzM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27353 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2011 16:14:04 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com.au (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM.AU) (203.166.19.134) by server-14.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Dec 2011 16:14:04 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,357,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="9621253" Received: from banpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) by SYDPIPO01.CITRIX.COM.AU with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 15 Dec 2011 16:12:55 +0000 Received: from BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.71]) by BANPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) with mapi; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:42:53 +0530 From: Pankaj Kumar Biswas To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:42:52 +0530 Thread-Topic: Re: xe patch-clean working Thread-Index: Acy7RCVc6bQib0FKQJmqcT32MVZjgw== Message-ID: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D1D4@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] xe patch-clean working X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3591740093900066444==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============3591740093900066444== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D1D4BANPMAILBOX01_" --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D1D4BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Team, xe patch-clean does not remove temporary files under /var/patch on Slave s= ervers. The command removes the temporary files properly on a Master server only. Can we use xe patch-destroy instead of xe-clean. As per my understanding th= e xe patch-destroy is for unapplied patches. Is this a feature or a bug?? Is there any api-change related to this functi= onality over xapi versions?? Scenario: I have a xenserver 5.6fp1 pool with 1 master server and 3 slaves.= Applied patches for all servers. Thanks & Regards, PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D1D4BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Team,

 

= xe patch-clean  does not remove tempo= rary files under /var/patch on Slave servers.

The command removes the tempo= rary files properly on a Master server only.

Can we use xe patch-destroy i= nstead of xe-clean. As per my understanding the xe patch-destroy is for una= pplied patches.

 

Is this a feature or a bug?? Is there any api-change= related to this functionality over xapi versions??

 

Scenario: I have= a xenserver 5.6fp1 pool with 1 master server and 3 slaves. Applied patches= for all servers.

 

&n= bsp;

 

Thanks & Regards,

PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS

= --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D1D4BANPMAILBOX01_-- --===============3591740093900066444== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============3591740093900066444==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 15 16:14:20 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:14:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbDwj-0000aj-1P; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:14:13 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbDwh-0000ab-JH for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:14:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pankaj.kumarbiswas@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1323965641!7554165!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.166.19.134] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMjAzLjE2Ni4xOS4xMzQgPT4gNDE0MzM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27353 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2011 16:14:04 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com.au (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM.AU) (203.166.19.134) by server-14.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Dec 2011 16:14:04 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,357,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="9621253" Received: from banpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) by SYDPIPO01.CITRIX.COM.AU with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 15 Dec 2011 16:12:55 +0000 Received: from BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.71]) by BANPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) with mapi; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:42:53 +0530 From: Pankaj Kumar Biswas To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:42:52 +0530 Thread-Topic: Re: xe patch-clean working Thread-Index: Acy7RCVc6bQib0FKQJmqcT32MVZjgw== Message-ID: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D1D4@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] xe patch-clean working X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3591740093900066444==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============3591740093900066444== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D1D4BANPMAILBOX01_" --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D1D4BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Team, xe patch-clean does not remove temporary files under /var/patch on Slave s= ervers. The command removes the temporary files properly on a Master server only. Can we use xe patch-destroy instead of xe-clean. As per my understanding th= e xe patch-destroy is for unapplied patches. Is this a feature or a bug?? Is there any api-change related to this functi= onality over xapi versions?? Scenario: I have a xenserver 5.6fp1 pool with 1 master server and 3 slaves.= Applied patches for all servers. Thanks & Regards, PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D1D4BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Team,

 

= xe patch-clean  does not remove tempo= rary files under /var/patch on Slave servers.

The command removes the tempo= rary files properly on a Master server only.

Can we use xe patch-destroy i= nstead of xe-clean. As per my understanding the xe patch-destroy is for una= pplied patches.

 

Is this a feature or a bug?? Is there any api-change= related to this functionality over xapi versions??

 

Scenario: I have= a xenserver 5.6fp1 pool with 1 master server and 3 slaves. Applied patches= for all servers.

 

&n= bsp;

 

Thanks & Regards,

PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS

= --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D1D4BANPMAILBOX01_-- --===============3591740093900066444== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============3591740093900066444==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 15 22:48:19 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:48:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbK5y-0002qR-1h; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:48:10 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbK5w-0002qM-Db for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:48:08 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1323989281!8439364!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.5 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21374 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2011 22:48:01 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-3.tower-21.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2011 22:48:01 -0000 Received: from [172.20.10.2] (unknown [110.140.87.233]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5FC612805E for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:47:59 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Whitla Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:47:51 +1000 Message-Id: To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Xen-API] Debian repo broken X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Did someone reorganise the repository? Could you please announce changes before making them. Thanks, Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 15 22:48:19 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:48:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbK5y-0002qR-1h; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:48:10 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbK5w-0002qM-Db for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:48:08 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1323989281!8439364!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.5 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21374 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2011 22:48:01 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-3.tower-21.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2011 22:48:01 -0000 Received: from [172.20.10.2] (unknown [110.140.87.233]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5FC612805E for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:47:59 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Whitla Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:47:51 +1000 Message-Id: To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Xen-API] Debian repo broken X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Did someone reorganise the repository? Could you please announce changes before making them. Thanks, Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 03:33:28 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:33:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbOXt-0001Dv-7C; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:33:17 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbOXs-0001Dn-5T for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:33:16 +0000 X-Env-Sender: scottz@wi.rr.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324006389!7499561!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.74.56.124] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: QmFkIElQOiA3MS43NC41Ni4xMjQgPT4gMzk3NDg5\n,sa_preprocessor: QmFkIElQOiA3MS43NC41Ni4xMjQgPT4gMzk3NDg5\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5783 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 03:33:09 -0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (HELO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (71.74.56.124) by server-5.tower-182.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 03:33:09 -0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=FIuZNpUs c=1 sm=0 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:17 a=akDsyBIaq0wA:10 a=4zAkkIffri8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=SEF7xSSsAAAA:8 a=rSOb_pxNM4biXww-qmYA:9 a=AdTxLMxg13_CbqnEnGsA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.56.78.150 Received: from [24.56.78.150] ([24.56.78.150:50138] helo=106.red-80-38-100.staticip.rima-tde.net) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F7/02-13672-4FBBAEE4; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:33:09 +0000 Message-ID: <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:33:04 -0600 From: Scott Zupek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 12/15/11 7:08 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: > On 15/12/11 12:01, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 06:01:17PM +0000, Mike McClurg wrote: >>> On 14/12/11 17:32, Alex Perez wrote: >>>> I would go a single step further, and suggest that you not use the term >>>> "XCP" at all in the context of Kronos. There's already pleeenty of >>>> confusion about exactly what is what. Right now, XCP means one thing, = and >>>> I would implore you to keep it that way. >>> One of the biggest effects of this confusion is that people are now >>> worried that XCP will become completely unstable, like Fedora versus >>> RHEL, and thus won't be suitable for serious enterprise deployments. >>> >>> Perhaps just calling it Kronos is a good idea. Though our packaging is >>> nearly complete, and they are all prefixed with 'xcp-'... I suppose we >>> can leave that as it is, since it is the XCP toolstack we're installing. >>> Does anyone else feel this strongly about calling it Kronos, and NOT >>> mentioning XCP? >>> >> Imho, if possible, the debian/ubuntu package names should be changed, >> xcp- in the deb package names will cause a lot of confusion. >> >> xapi- is better, or kronos-, for the deb packages. >> >> I think 'xcp' should be used only for the .iso image appliance.. >> > So, I hate to use this as an excuse, but there are actually already a > few of our Kronos packages in Debian Sid right now with the name xcp-*. > I actually think this is a good thing, because those packages are > software that came from XCP, so to me it makes sense to call the > packages xcp-blah. > > How about this compromise: We call "traditional" XCP, the thing that's > based on CentOS and is delivered as a standalone ISO, the "XCP > Distribution". We can then call the Kronos packages, the set of software > that is installable on Debian and Ubuntu (and hopefully other distros in > the future), the "XCP Toolstack". > > I think that this solution will remove some of the confusion about which > thing is which. Will this be an acceptable compromise to everyone? > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > Okay I am pretty good at dumbing things down and being the dumb = guy(that's a skill, right?). Obvious this product/discussion isn't for = "i buy everything at best buy" clientele, but it should be relatively = easy to understand. XCP is a platform to present, speed up, standardize and help manage = XEN-Hypervisor, correct? (no gui, just CLI) Kronos is a toolstack to do what? Also help manage the XCP, which is on = top of Xen-Hypervisor, like XenCenter? If so, leave it at Kronos = (personally I know too many apps called Kronos, but i worked I.t. in a = mortgage company and all those apps had different weird names). If I am = right and Kronos is something to help manage Xen Hypervisor (with or = without XCP?) then I would name it SOMETHING to do with Xen but NOT XCP. = Maybe XronAPI or something. If kronos is another layer AFTER XCP(and XCP is required) I would tie it = to XCP prefix. If XCP is not required, leave XCP alone. I, a = beginner/getting there XEN Hypervisor user, only used XCP because it was = the easiest to install and easiest to manage. I really don't like Xen = Center at all, but everything else was kind of a bust. And I tried and = searched for probably 20 hours straight. So my opinion for what it's worth is I WANT A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT = KRONOS is and how it's different from XCP and what are the benefits to a = normal admin (not a super high level Linux user). Does it REQUIRE XCP? = Sorry I am really trying to just help... sometimes when you are in the = thick of a project so long you forget just how confusing and deep it is = to everyone else. Scott _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 03:33:28 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:33:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbOXt-0001Dv-7C; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:33:17 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbOXs-0001Dn-5T for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:33:16 +0000 X-Env-Sender: scottz@wi.rr.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324006389!7499561!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.74.56.124] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: QmFkIElQOiA3MS43NC41Ni4xMjQgPT4gMzk3NDg5\n,sa_preprocessor: QmFkIElQOiA3MS43NC41Ni4xMjQgPT4gMzk3NDg5\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5783 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 03:33:09 -0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (HELO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (71.74.56.124) by server-5.tower-182.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 03:33:09 -0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=FIuZNpUs c=1 sm=0 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:17 a=akDsyBIaq0wA:10 a=4zAkkIffri8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=SEF7xSSsAAAA:8 a=rSOb_pxNM4biXww-qmYA:9 a=AdTxLMxg13_CbqnEnGsA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.56.78.150 Received: from [24.56.78.150] ([24.56.78.150:50138] helo=106.red-80-38-100.staticip.rima-tde.net) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F7/02-13672-4FBBAEE4; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:33:09 +0000 Message-ID: <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:33:04 -0600 From: Scott Zupek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 12/15/11 7:08 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: > On 15/12/11 12:01, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 06:01:17PM +0000, Mike McClurg wrote: >>> On 14/12/11 17:32, Alex Perez wrote: >>>> I would go a single step further, and suggest that you not use the term >>>> "XCP" at all in the context of Kronos. There's already pleeenty of >>>> confusion about exactly what is what. Right now, XCP means one thing, = and >>>> I would implore you to keep it that way. >>> One of the biggest effects of this confusion is that people are now >>> worried that XCP will become completely unstable, like Fedora versus >>> RHEL, and thus won't be suitable for serious enterprise deployments. >>> >>> Perhaps just calling it Kronos is a good idea. Though our packaging is >>> nearly complete, and they are all prefixed with 'xcp-'... I suppose we >>> can leave that as it is, since it is the XCP toolstack we're installing. >>> Does anyone else feel this strongly about calling it Kronos, and NOT >>> mentioning XCP? >>> >> Imho, if possible, the debian/ubuntu package names should be changed, >> xcp- in the deb package names will cause a lot of confusion. >> >> xapi- is better, or kronos-, for the deb packages. >> >> I think 'xcp' should be used only for the .iso image appliance.. >> > So, I hate to use this as an excuse, but there are actually already a > few of our Kronos packages in Debian Sid right now with the name xcp-*. > I actually think this is a good thing, because those packages are > software that came from XCP, so to me it makes sense to call the > packages xcp-blah. > > How about this compromise: We call "traditional" XCP, the thing that's > based on CentOS and is delivered as a standalone ISO, the "XCP > Distribution". We can then call the Kronos packages, the set of software > that is installable on Debian and Ubuntu (and hopefully other distros in > the future), the "XCP Toolstack". > > I think that this solution will remove some of the confusion about which > thing is which. Will this be an acceptable compromise to everyone? > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > Okay I am pretty good at dumbing things down and being the dumb = guy(that's a skill, right?). Obvious this product/discussion isn't for = "i buy everything at best buy" clientele, but it should be relatively = easy to understand. XCP is a platform to present, speed up, standardize and help manage = XEN-Hypervisor, correct? (no gui, just CLI) Kronos is a toolstack to do what? Also help manage the XCP, which is on = top of Xen-Hypervisor, like XenCenter? If so, leave it at Kronos = (personally I know too many apps called Kronos, but i worked I.t. in a = mortgage company and all those apps had different weird names). If I am = right and Kronos is something to help manage Xen Hypervisor (with or = without XCP?) then I would name it SOMETHING to do with Xen but NOT XCP. = Maybe XronAPI or something. If kronos is another layer AFTER XCP(and XCP is required) I would tie it = to XCP prefix. If XCP is not required, leave XCP alone. I, a = beginner/getting there XEN Hypervisor user, only used XCP because it was = the easiest to install and easiest to manage. I really don't like Xen = Center at all, but everything else was kind of a bust. And I tried and = searched for probably 20 hours straight. So my opinion for what it's worth is I WANT A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT = KRONOS is and how it's different from XCP and what are the benefits to a = normal admin (not a super high level Linux user). Does it REQUIRE XCP? = Sorry I am really trying to just help... sometimes when you are in the = thick of a project so long you forget just how confusing and deep it is = to everyone else. Scott _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 09:17:53 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:17:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbTvG-0004yC-PN; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:17:46 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbTvE-0004y7-UE for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:17:45 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pankaj.kumarbiswas@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324027055!7496460!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.166.19.134] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMjAzLjE2Ni4xOS4xMzQgPT4gNDE2ODk=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18746 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 09:17:38 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com.au (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM.AU) (203.166.19.134) by server-9.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 09:17:38 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,362,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="9630638" Received: from banpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) by SYDPIPO01.CITRIX.COM.AU with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 16 Dec 2011 09:17:34 +0000 Received: from BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.71]) by BANPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) with mapi; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:47:32 +0530 From: Pankaj Kumar Biswas To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:47:31 +0530 Thread-Topic: xe patch-clean working Thread-Index: Acy704nUANPcQbRLS5CwN+ZIdoh3Fg== Message-ID: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2AA@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] xe patch-clean working X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5569699857560878723==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============5569699857560878723== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2AABANPMAILBOX01_" --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2AABANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Team, xe patch-clean does not remove temporary files under /var/patch on Slave s= ervers. The command removes the temporary files properly on a Master server only. Can we use xe patch-destroy instead of xe-clean. As per my understanding th= e xe patch-destroy is for unapplied patches. Is this a feature or a bug?? Is there any api-change related to this functi= onality over xapi versions?? Scenario: I have a xenserver 5.6fp1 pool with 1 master server and 3 slaves.= Applied patches for all servers. Thanks & Regards, PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2AABANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Hi Team,

&n= bsp;

= xe patch-clean  does not remove temporary files under /var/patch on Sl= ave servers.

The command removes the temporary files properly on a Master s= erver only.

Can we use xe patch-destroy instead of xe-clean. As per my und= erstanding the xe patch-destroy is for unapplied patches.=

 =

Is this a = feature or a bug?? Is there any api-change related to this functionality ov= er xapi versions??

 

Scenario: I have a xenserver 5.6fp1 pool with 1 m= aster server and 3 slaves. Applied patches for all servers.

 

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

PANKAJ KUMAR = BISWAS

= --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2AABANPMAILBOX01_-- --===============5569699857560878723== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============5569699857560878723==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 09:17:53 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:17:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbTvG-0004yC-PN; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:17:46 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbTvE-0004y7-UE for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:17:45 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pankaj.kumarbiswas@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324027055!7496460!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.166.19.134] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMjAzLjE2Ni4xOS4xMzQgPT4gNDE2ODk=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18746 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 09:17:38 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com.au (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM.AU) (203.166.19.134) by server-9.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 09:17:38 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,362,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="9630638" Received: from banpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) by SYDPIPO01.CITRIX.COM.AU with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 16 Dec 2011 09:17:34 +0000 Received: from BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.71]) by BANPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) with mapi; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:47:32 +0530 From: Pankaj Kumar Biswas To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:47:31 +0530 Thread-Topic: xe patch-clean working Thread-Index: Acy704nUANPcQbRLS5CwN+ZIdoh3Fg== Message-ID: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2AA@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] xe patch-clean working X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5569699857560878723==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============5569699857560878723== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2AABANPMAILBOX01_" --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2AABANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Team, xe patch-clean does not remove temporary files under /var/patch on Slave s= ervers. The command removes the temporary files properly on a Master server only. Can we use xe patch-destroy instead of xe-clean. As per my understanding th= e xe patch-destroy is for unapplied patches. Is this a feature or a bug?? Is there any api-change related to this functi= onality over xapi versions?? Scenario: I have a xenserver 5.6fp1 pool with 1 master server and 3 slaves.= Applied patches for all servers. Thanks & Regards, PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2AABANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Hi Team,

&n= bsp;

= xe patch-clean  does not remove temporary files under /var/patch on Sl= ave servers.

The command removes the temporary files properly on a Master s= erver only.

Can we use xe patch-destroy instead of xe-clean. As per my und= erstanding the xe patch-destroy is for unapplied patches.=

 =

Is this a = feature or a bug?? Is there any api-change related to this functionality ov= er xapi versions??

 

Scenario: I have a xenserver 5.6fp1 pool with 1 m= aster server and 3 slaves. Applied patches for all servers.

 

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

PANKAJ KUMAR = BISWAS

= --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2AABANPMAILBOX01_-- --===============5569699857560878723== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============5569699857560878723==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 09:43:10 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:43:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbUJk-0005mg-VQ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:43:04 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbUJj-0005mb-Om for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:43:03 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1324028575!8455701!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.6 required=7.0 tests=RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18654 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 09:42:56 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 09:42:56 -0000 Received: from [172.20.10.3] (unknown [1.144.117.51]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C40892805E; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:42:51 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:42:42 +1000 Message-Id: <078FBC2E-A120-4576-8D24-9ED986AF2F3C@ocean.net.au> References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> To: Scott Zupek X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Not exactly. Kronos is not a product, a toolstack, a piece of software or anything else. Kronos is just the name of the project to port the xapi toolstack from XCP to other linux distros, starting with Debian. IMHO the label Kronos does not belong in any package name. I also think xcp does not belong in package names - too bad about the already released packages. The way I see it XCP is just a linux distro, based on CentOS, with some unusual default packages installed. XCP INCLUDES the xapi toolstack but neither one IS the other. The xcp- prefix on the existing unstable packages does serve to group the related tools together though - so I suppose it adds some value. The current state of Xen/XenServer/XCP/... is unfortunately alphabet soup. But once you do a little bit of reading to see how it all fits together, it makes enough sense not to change any of it. A better use of peoples' energy might be to improve the documentation somewhat - particularly in so far as the xapi toolstack (as shipped by the Kronos project) differs from that found in XCP and XenServer. My $0.05. (inflation) Dave On 16/12/2011, at 1:33 PM, Scott Zupek wrote: > Okay I am pretty good at dumbing things down and being the dumb guy(that's a skill, right?). Obvious this product/discussion isn't for "i buy everything at best buy" clientele, but it should be relatively easy to understand. > > XCP is a platform to present, speed up, standardize and help manage XEN-Hypervisor, correct? (no gui, just CLI) > > Kronos is a toolstack to do what? Also help manage the XCP, which is on top of Xen-Hypervisor, like XenCenter? If so, leave it at Kronos (personally I know too many apps called Kronos, but i worked I.t. in a mortgage company and all those apps had different weird names). If I am right and Kronos is something to help manage Xen Hypervisor (with or without XCP?) then I would name it SOMETHING to do with Xen but NOT XCP. Maybe XronAPI or something. > > If kronos is another layer AFTER XCP(and XCP is required) I would tie it to XCP prefix. If XCP is not required, leave XCP alone. I, a beginner/getting there XEN Hypervisor user, only used XCP because it was the easiest to install and easiest to manage. I really don't like Xen Center at all, but everything else was kind of a bust. And I tried and searched for probably 20 hours straight. > > So my opinion for what it's worth is I WANT A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT KRONOS is and how it's different from XCP and what are the benefits to a normal admin (not a super high level Linux user). Does it REQUIRE XCP? Sorry I am really trying to just help... sometimes when you are in the thick of a project so long you forget just how confusing and deep it is to everyone else. > > Scott > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 09:43:10 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:43:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbUJk-0005mg-VQ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:43:04 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbUJj-0005mb-Om for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:43:03 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1324028575!8455701!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.6 required=7.0 tests=RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18654 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 09:42:56 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 09:42:56 -0000 Received: from [172.20.10.3] (unknown [1.144.117.51]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C40892805E; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:42:51 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:42:42 +1000 Message-Id: <078FBC2E-A120-4576-8D24-9ED986AF2F3C@ocean.net.au> References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> To: Scott Zupek X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Not exactly. Kronos is not a product, a toolstack, a piece of software or anything else. Kronos is just the name of the project to port the xapi toolstack from XCP to other linux distros, starting with Debian. IMHO the label Kronos does not belong in any package name. I also think xcp does not belong in package names - too bad about the already released packages. The way I see it XCP is just a linux distro, based on CentOS, with some unusual default packages installed. XCP INCLUDES the xapi toolstack but neither one IS the other. The xcp- prefix on the existing unstable packages does serve to group the related tools together though - so I suppose it adds some value. The current state of Xen/XenServer/XCP/... is unfortunately alphabet soup. But once you do a little bit of reading to see how it all fits together, it makes enough sense not to change any of it. A better use of peoples' energy might be to improve the documentation somewhat - particularly in so far as the xapi toolstack (as shipped by the Kronos project) differs from that found in XCP and XenServer. My $0.05. (inflation) Dave On 16/12/2011, at 1:33 PM, Scott Zupek wrote: > Okay I am pretty good at dumbing things down and being the dumb guy(that's a skill, right?). Obvious this product/discussion isn't for "i buy everything at best buy" clientele, but it should be relatively easy to understand. > > XCP is a platform to present, speed up, standardize and help manage XEN-Hypervisor, correct? (no gui, just CLI) > > Kronos is a toolstack to do what? Also help manage the XCP, which is on top of Xen-Hypervisor, like XenCenter? If so, leave it at Kronos (personally I know too many apps called Kronos, but i worked I.t. in a mortgage company and all those apps had different weird names). If I am right and Kronos is something to help manage Xen Hypervisor (with or without XCP?) then I would name it SOMETHING to do with Xen but NOT XCP. Maybe XronAPI or something. > > If kronos is another layer AFTER XCP(and XCP is required) I would tie it to XCP prefix. If XCP is not required, leave XCP alone. I, a beginner/getting there XEN Hypervisor user, only used XCP because it was the easiest to install and easiest to manage. I really don't like Xen Center at all, but everything else was kind of a bust. And I tried and searched for probably 20 hours straight. > > So my opinion for what it's worth is I WANT A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT KRONOS is and how it's different from XCP and what are the benefits to a normal admin (not a super high level Linux user). Does it REQUIRE XCP? Sorry I am really trying to just help... sometimes when you are in the thick of a project so long you forget just how confusing and deep it is to everyone else. > > Scott > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 10:06:09 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:06:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbUfy-0006ko-8z; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:06:02 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbUfw-0006kj-Ni for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:06:00 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.bursell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1324029954!8201080!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NjU3OQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19178 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 10:05:54 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 10:05:54 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,362,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9508748" Received: from lonpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 16 Dec 2011 10:05:54 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) with mapi; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:05:54 +0000 From: Mike Bursell To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:05:53 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5] Thread-Index: Acy72WEv0xl7czvoRAiIJ/a202nNyA== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com > On 12/15/11 7:08 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: > > On 15/12/11 12:01, Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 06:01:17PM +0000, Mike McClurg wrote: > >>> On 14/12/11 17:32, Alex Perez wrote: > >>>> I would go a single step further, and suggest that you not use the > >>>> term "XCP" at all in the context of Kronos. There's already > >>>> pleeenty of confusion about exactly what is what. Right now, XCP > >>>> means one thing, and I would implore you to keep it that way. > >>> One of the biggest effects of this confusion is that people are now > >>> worried that XCP will become completely unstable, like Fedora versus > >>> RHEL, and thus won't be suitable for serious enterprise deployments. > >>> > >>> Perhaps just calling it Kronos is a good idea. Though our packaging > >>> is nearly complete, and they are all prefixed with 'xcp-'... I > >>> suppose we can leave that as it is, since it is the XCP toolstack we're > installing. > >>> Does anyone else feel this strongly about calling it Kronos, and NOT > >>> mentioning XCP? > >>> > >> Imho, if possible, the debian/ubuntu package names should be changed, > >> xcp- in the deb package names will cause a lot of confusion. > >> > >> xapi- is better, or kronos-, for the deb packages. > >> > >> I think 'xcp' should be used only for the .iso image appliance.. > >> > > So, I hate to use this as an excuse, but there are actually already a > > few of our Kronos packages in Debian Sid right now with the name xcp-*. > > I actually think this is a good thing, because those packages are > > software that came from XCP, so to me it makes sense to call the > > packages xcp-blah. > > > > How about this compromise: We call "traditional" XCP, the thing that's > > based on CentOS and is delivered as a standalone ISO, the "XCP > > Distribution". We can then call the Kronos packages, the set of > > software that is installable on Debian and Ubuntu (and hopefully other > > distros in the future), the "XCP Toolstack". > > > > I think that this solution will remove some of the confusion about > > which thing is which. Will this be an acceptable compromise to everyone? > > > > Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > > xen-api mailing list > > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > > > Okay I am pretty good at dumbing things down and being the dumb > guy(that's a skill, right?). Obvious this product/discussion isn't for "i buy > everything at best buy" clientele, but it should be relatively easy to > understand. > > XCP is a platform to present, speed up, standardize and help manage XEN- > Hypervisor, correct? (no gui, just CLI) > > Kronos is a toolstack to do what? Also help manage the XCP, which is on top > of Xen-Hypervisor, like XenCenter? If so, leave it at Kronos (personally I > know too many apps called Kronos, but i worked I.t. in a mortgage company > and all those apps had different weird names). If I am right and Kronos is > something to help manage Xen Hypervisor (with or without XCP?) then I > would name it SOMETHING to do with Xen but NOT XCP. > Maybe XronAPI or something. > > If kronos is another layer AFTER XCP(and XCP is required) I would tie it to XCP > prefix. If XCP is not required, leave XCP alone. I, a beginner/getting there > XEN Hypervisor user, only used XCP because it was the easiest to install and > easiest to manage. I really don't like Xen Center at all, but everything else > was kind of a bust. And I tried and searched for probably 20 hours straight. > > So my opinion for what it's worth is I WANT A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT > KRONOS is and how it's different from XCP and what are the benefits to a > normal admin (not a super high level Linux user). Does it REQUIRE XCP? > Sorry I am really trying to just help... sometimes when you are in the thick of > a project so long you forget just how confusing and deep it is to everyone > else. Here's my thinking, based on some discussions I've had with Mike, Jon and a few others. XCP is a framework to allow you to manage Xen deployments. You can use it in two different ways: 1) you can install an out-of-the-box server, with an OS, Xen and the XCP tools, using an iso. This is a distro. 2) you can install the XCP tools (the toolstack) on top of an existing OS and Xen deployment. This is a toolstack. Project Kronos is a piece of work to provide the XCP tools in a consistent, packaged way for a known set of Linux distributions (currently Debian and Ubuntu). It may later include others (CentOS? SuSE? ...). This seems clear and easy to explain to n00bies (of whom I'm one), and allows us to maintain the separateness of the iso (the distro) and the tools packaging (the toolstack) whilst acknowledging the dependencies. I'd love to hear others' thoughts. -Mike. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 10:06:09 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:06:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbUfy-0006ko-8z; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:06:02 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbUfw-0006kj-Ni for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:06:00 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.bursell@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1324029954!8201080!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NjU3OQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 19178 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 10:05:54 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 10:05:54 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,362,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9508748" Received: from lonpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 16 Dec 2011 10:05:54 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) with mapi; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:05:54 +0000 From: Mike Bursell To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:05:53 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5] Thread-Index: Acy72WEv0xl7czvoRAiIJ/a202nNyA== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com > On 12/15/11 7:08 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: > > On 15/12/11 12:01, Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 06:01:17PM +0000, Mike McClurg wrote: > >>> On 14/12/11 17:32, Alex Perez wrote: > >>>> I would go a single step further, and suggest that you not use the > >>>> term "XCP" at all in the context of Kronos. There's already > >>>> pleeenty of confusion about exactly what is what. Right now, XCP > >>>> means one thing, and I would implore you to keep it that way. > >>> One of the biggest effects of this confusion is that people are now > >>> worried that XCP will become completely unstable, like Fedora versus > >>> RHEL, and thus won't be suitable for serious enterprise deployments. > >>> > >>> Perhaps just calling it Kronos is a good idea. Though our packaging > >>> is nearly complete, and they are all prefixed with 'xcp-'... I > >>> suppose we can leave that as it is, since it is the XCP toolstack we're > installing. > >>> Does anyone else feel this strongly about calling it Kronos, and NOT > >>> mentioning XCP? > >>> > >> Imho, if possible, the debian/ubuntu package names should be changed, > >> xcp- in the deb package names will cause a lot of confusion. > >> > >> xapi- is better, or kronos-, for the deb packages. > >> > >> I think 'xcp' should be used only for the .iso image appliance.. > >> > > So, I hate to use this as an excuse, but there are actually already a > > few of our Kronos packages in Debian Sid right now with the name xcp-*. > > I actually think this is a good thing, because those packages are > > software that came from XCP, so to me it makes sense to call the > > packages xcp-blah. > > > > How about this compromise: We call "traditional" XCP, the thing that's > > based on CentOS and is delivered as a standalone ISO, the "XCP > > Distribution". We can then call the Kronos packages, the set of > > software that is installable on Debian and Ubuntu (and hopefully other > > distros in the future), the "XCP Toolstack". > > > > I think that this solution will remove some of the confusion about > > which thing is which. Will this be an acceptable compromise to everyone? > > > > Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > > xen-api mailing list > > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > > > Okay I am pretty good at dumbing things down and being the dumb > guy(that's a skill, right?). Obvious this product/discussion isn't for "i buy > everything at best buy" clientele, but it should be relatively easy to > understand. > > XCP is a platform to present, speed up, standardize and help manage XEN- > Hypervisor, correct? (no gui, just CLI) > > Kronos is a toolstack to do what? Also help manage the XCP, which is on top > of Xen-Hypervisor, like XenCenter? If so, leave it at Kronos (personally I > know too many apps called Kronos, but i worked I.t. in a mortgage company > and all those apps had different weird names). If I am right and Kronos is > something to help manage Xen Hypervisor (with or without XCP?) then I > would name it SOMETHING to do with Xen but NOT XCP. > Maybe XronAPI or something. > > If kronos is another layer AFTER XCP(and XCP is required) I would tie it to XCP > prefix. If XCP is not required, leave XCP alone. I, a beginner/getting there > XEN Hypervisor user, only used XCP because it was the easiest to install and > easiest to manage. I really don't like Xen Center at all, but everything else > was kind of a bust. And I tried and searched for probably 20 hours straight. > > So my opinion for what it's worth is I WANT A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT > KRONOS is and how it's different from XCP and what are the benefits to a > normal admin (not a super high level Linux user). Does it REQUIRE XCP? > Sorry I am really trying to just help... sometimes when you are in the thick of > a project so long you forget just how confusing and deep it is to everyone > else. Here's my thinking, based on some discussions I've had with Mike, Jon and a few others. XCP is a framework to allow you to manage Xen deployments. You can use it in two different ways: 1) you can install an out-of-the-box server, with an OS, Xen and the XCP tools, using an iso. This is a distro. 2) you can install the XCP tools (the toolstack) on top of an existing OS and Xen deployment. This is a toolstack. Project Kronos is a piece of work to provide the XCP tools in a consistent, packaged way for a known set of Linux distributions (currently Debian and Ubuntu). It may later include others (CentOS? SuSE? ...). This seems clear and easy to explain to n00bies (of whom I'm one), and allows us to maintain the separateness of the iso (the distro) and the tools packaging (the toolstack) whilst acknowledging the dependencies. I'd love to hear others' thoughts. -Mike. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 10:35:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:35:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbV88-0007JI-Hr; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:35:08 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbV87-0007Io-Gd for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:35:07 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Jonathan.Ludlam@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324031701!5760082!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NjU3OQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 3594 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 10:35:01 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-12.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 10:35:01 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,362,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9509522" Received: from lonpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 16 Dec 2011 10:35:00 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) with mapi; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:35:00 +0000 From: Jonathan Ludlam To: Dave Whitla Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:34:57 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] Debian repo broken Thread-Index: Acy73lz2XIyr5OGkQPqJ/pNuMl3cAQ== Message-ID: <6B3F33CF-EC4F-4BAC-BA2D-D5C0284374CC@eu.citrix.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Debian repo broken X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com It's not been intentionally broken, though I have been fiddling with the jenkins job that creates it. In what sense do you think it has been reorganised? Jon On 15 Dec 2011, at 22:47, Dave Whitla wrote: > Did someone reorganise the repository? > Could you please announce changes before making them. > > Thanks, > > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 10:35:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:35:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbV88-0007JI-Hr; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:35:08 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbV87-0007Io-Gd for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:35:07 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Jonathan.Ludlam@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324031701!5760082!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NjU3OQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 3594 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 10:35:01 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-12.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 10:35:01 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,362,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9509522" Received: from lonpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 16 Dec 2011 10:35:00 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) with mapi; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:35:00 +0000 From: Jonathan Ludlam To: Dave Whitla Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:34:57 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] Debian repo broken Thread-Index: Acy73lz2XIyr5OGkQPqJ/pNuMl3cAQ== Message-ID: <6B3F33CF-EC4F-4BAC-BA2D-D5C0284374CC@eu.citrix.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Debian repo broken X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com It's not been intentionally broken, though I have been fiddling with the jenkins job that creates it. In what sense do you think it has been reorganised? Jon On 15 Dec 2011, at 22:47, Dave Whitla wrote: > Did someone reorganise the repository? > Could you please announce changes before making them. > > Thanks, > > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 11:09:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:09:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbVfF-0008I2-Dh; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:09:21 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbVfC-0008Go-JS for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:09:18 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pankaj.kumarbiswas@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324033748!5638118!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.166.19.134] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMjAzLjE2Ni4xOS4xMzQgPT4gNDE3NTE=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 14760 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 11:09:11 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com.au (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM.AU) (203.166.19.134) by server-16.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 11:09:11 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,362,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="9631677" Received: from banpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.103.128.74]) by SYDPIPO01.CITRIX.COM.AU with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 16 Dec 2011 11:09:07 +0000 Received: from BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.71]) by BANPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.103.128.74]) with mapi; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:39:06 +0530 From: Pankaj Kumar Biswas To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:39:04 +0530 Thread-Topic: Re: xe vbd-unplug timeout error Thread-Index: Acy74xf0pr4WhCO+Ry2s25JB6kBFgw== Message-ID: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2E5@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] xe vbd-unplug timeout error X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1246181323739497315==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============1246181323739497315== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2E5BANPMAILBOX01_" --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2E5BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Team, While running "xe vbd-unplug" command against VBD which is used by VM, it s= hould return an error. On XenServer 6.0, when I am doing it, I will get an = error at 1st time, but when I do it again, it does not return error for 120= 0 seconds (20 minutes). I am getting timeout error after 1200 seconds. [20111214T00:49:27.381Z|debug|iida-dl018|611167 unix-RPC||cli] Xapi_cli.exc= eption_handler: Got exception DEVICE_DETACH_REJECTED: [ VBD; OpaqueRef:2d1d= 0de6-be4c-c214-cade-d8e11d0e2365; 16 Device in use; refusing to close ] Dec 14 09:49:27 iida-dl018 xapi: [error|iida-dl018|611167 unix-RPC|VBD.unpl= ug R:72e01c62a8be|xapi] Xapi_vbd.destroy_vbd got an error (frontend (domid= =3D1 | kind=3Dvbd | devid=3D51712); backend (domid=3D0 | kind=3Dvbd | devid= =3D51712)) 16 Device in use; refusing to close Dec 14 10:09:42 iida-dl018 xapi: [error|iida-dl018|611175 unix-RPC|VBD.unpl= ug R:88079c7cb782|xenops] watch: timeout while watching xenstore after 1200= .000000 seconds On XenServer 5.6 (Midnight Ride), I do not see this issue. Is there any cha= nge in the xapi?? What is the possible cause of the failure?? Is any work-around for this ?? Thanks & Regards, PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2E5BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Hi Team,

=  

While running "xe vbd-unplug&q= uot; command against VBD which is used by VM, it should return an error. On= XenServer 6.0, when I am doing it, I will get an error at 1st time, but wh= en I do it again, it does not return error for 1200 seconds (20 minutes). I= am getting timeout error after 1200 seconds.

 

 

=

[20111214T00:49:27.381Z|debug|iida-dl018|611167 uni= x-RPC||cli] Xapi_cli.exception_handler: Got exception DEVICE_DETACH_REJE= CTED: [ VBD; OpaqueRef:2d1d0de6-be4c-c214-cade-d8e11d0e2365; 16 Device = in use; refusing to close ]

&nbs= p;

Dec 14 09:49:27 iida-dl018 xapi: [error|ii= da-dl018|611167 unix-RPC|VBD.unplug R:72e01c62a8be|xapi] Xapi_vbd.destroy_v= bd got an error (frontend (domid=3D1 | kind=3Dvbd | devid=3D51712); backend= (domid=3D0 | kind=3Dvbd | devid=3D51712)) 16 Device in use; refu= sing to close

 

=

Dec 14 10:09:42 iida-dl018 xapi: [error|iida-dl018|611= 175 unix-RPC|VBD.unplug R:88079c7cb782|xenops] watch: timeout while watc= hing xenstore after 1200.000000 seconds

 

On XenServer 5.6 (Midni= ght Ride), I do not see this issue. Is there any change in the xapi?? What = is the possible cause of the failure??

Is any work-around for this ??

&n= bsp;

 

Thanks & Regards,

PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS

 =

= --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2E5BANPMAILBOX01_-- --===============1246181323739497315== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============1246181323739497315==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 11:09:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:09:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbVfF-0008I2-Dh; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:09:21 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbVfC-0008Go-JS for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:09:18 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pankaj.kumarbiswas@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324033748!5638118!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.166.19.134] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMjAzLjE2Ni4xOS4xMzQgPT4gNDE3NTE=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 14760 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 11:09:11 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com.au (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM.AU) (203.166.19.134) by server-16.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 11:09:11 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,362,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="9631677" Received: from banpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.103.128.74]) by SYDPIPO01.CITRIX.COM.AU with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 16 Dec 2011 11:09:07 +0000 Received: from BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.71]) by BANPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.103.128.74]) with mapi; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:39:06 +0530 From: Pankaj Kumar Biswas To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:39:04 +0530 Thread-Topic: Re: xe vbd-unplug timeout error Thread-Index: Acy74xf0pr4WhCO+Ry2s25JB6kBFgw== Message-ID: <64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2E5@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-API] xe vbd-unplug timeout error X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1246181323739497315==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============1246181323739497315== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2E5BANPMAILBOX01_" --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2E5BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Team, While running "xe vbd-unplug" command against VBD which is used by VM, it s= hould return an error. On XenServer 6.0, when I am doing it, I will get an = error at 1st time, but when I do it again, it does not return error for 120= 0 seconds (20 minutes). I am getting timeout error after 1200 seconds. [20111214T00:49:27.381Z|debug|iida-dl018|611167 unix-RPC||cli] Xapi_cli.exc= eption_handler: Got exception DEVICE_DETACH_REJECTED: [ VBD; OpaqueRef:2d1d= 0de6-be4c-c214-cade-d8e11d0e2365; 16 Device in use; refusing to close ] Dec 14 09:49:27 iida-dl018 xapi: [error|iida-dl018|611167 unix-RPC|VBD.unpl= ug R:72e01c62a8be|xapi] Xapi_vbd.destroy_vbd got an error (frontend (domid= =3D1 | kind=3Dvbd | devid=3D51712); backend (domid=3D0 | kind=3Dvbd | devid= =3D51712)) 16 Device in use; refusing to close Dec 14 10:09:42 iida-dl018 xapi: [error|iida-dl018|611175 unix-RPC|VBD.unpl= ug R:88079c7cb782|xenops] watch: timeout while watching xenstore after 1200= .000000 seconds On XenServer 5.6 (Midnight Ride), I do not see this issue. Is there any cha= nge in the xapi?? What is the possible cause of the failure?? Is any work-around for this ?? Thanks & Regards, PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2E5BANPMAILBOX01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Hi Team,

=  

While running "xe vbd-unplug&q= uot; command against VBD which is used by VM, it should return an error. On= XenServer 6.0, when I am doing it, I will get an error at 1st time, but wh= en I do it again, it does not return error for 1200 seconds (20 minutes). I= am getting timeout error after 1200 seconds.

 

 

=

[20111214T00:49:27.381Z|debug|iida-dl018|611167 uni= x-RPC||cli] Xapi_cli.exception_handler: Got exception DEVICE_DETACH_REJE= CTED: [ VBD; OpaqueRef:2d1d0de6-be4c-c214-cade-d8e11d0e2365; 16 Device = in use; refusing to close ]

&nbs= p;

Dec 14 09:49:27 iida-dl018 xapi: [error|ii= da-dl018|611167 unix-RPC|VBD.unplug R:72e01c62a8be|xapi] Xapi_vbd.destroy_v= bd got an error (frontend (domid=3D1 | kind=3Dvbd | devid=3D51712); backend= (domid=3D0 | kind=3Dvbd | devid=3D51712)) 16 Device in use; refu= sing to close

 

=

Dec 14 10:09:42 iida-dl018 xapi: [error|iida-dl018|611= 175 unix-RPC|VBD.unplug R:88079c7cb782|xenops] watch: timeout while watc= hing xenstore after 1200.000000 seconds

 

On XenServer 5.6 (Midni= ght Ride), I do not see this issue. Is there any change in the xapi?? What = is the possible cause of the failure??

Is any work-around for this ??

&n= bsp;

 

Thanks & Regards,

PANKAJ KUMAR BISWAS

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= --_000_64FB1554ABC9B44FAA773FBD6CB889C2F91230D2E5BANPMAILBOX01_-- --===============1246181323739497315== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============1246181323739497315==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 12:22:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:22:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbWni-000512-Us; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:22:10 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbWnh-00050x-EO for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:22:09 +0000 X-Env-Sender: wawrzek.niewodniczanski@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1324038122!8222858!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjI0MzY=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 20998 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 12:22:03 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 12:22:03 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,363,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="174437713" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 16 Dec 2011 07:22:01 -0500 Received: from [10.80.2.103] (10.80.2.103) by FTLPMAILMX02.citrite.net (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 07:22:01 -0500 Message-ID: <4EEB37E8.9020509@citrix.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:22:00 +0000 From: Wawrzek Niewodniczanski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110712 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> <078FBC2E-A120-4576-8D24-9ED986AF2F3C@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <078FBC2E-A120-4576-8D24-9ED986AF2F3C@ocean.net.au> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? 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Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:49:33 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbZ6K-0000Dl-9u for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:49:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: grantmasterflash@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324046965!7552737!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.4 required=7.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26213 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 14:49:26 -0000 Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com (HELO mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com) (209.85.215.43) by server-9.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 14:49:26 -0000 Received: by lagw12 with SMTP id w12so5000328lag.30 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:49:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=0not5vBe1jY1WRIRLNd4uhYVuIz0fRYJfTFBebphuz4=; b=iNT5V7cL44kq1fdAOs9EtbwPoVxBTBA3xzEcEfl8ctgeS6iYyWENNLqX068AIEunlH 27MQnvqoPzIIQ3lSECWC5BU6ZGQSlOLJu1xFUfqmbzEcE20DTezec2vOq2X2TwFlRO4j hYxAu6jDuGSoOqA+JoOplGcQu5X5fg3TZTEm4= Received: by 10.152.135.179 with SMTP id pt19mr7773025lab.47.1324046965144; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:49:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.145.71 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:48:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EEB37E8.9020509@citrix.com> References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> <078FBC2E-A120-4576-8D24-9ED986AF2F3C@ocean.net.au> <4EEB37E8.9020509@citrix.com> From: Grant McWilliams Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:48:44 -0800 Message-ID: To: Wawrzek Niewodniczanski Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7625386761231537573==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============7625386761231537573== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0437490b05fcfb04b436b5a7 --f46d0437490b05fcfb04b436b5a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 My thoughts Xen Cloud = Cloud built using XAPI and Xen Hypervisor Xen Cloud Platform = Installable operating system providing Xen Cloud Xen Cloud packages = Intallable packages to create Xen Cloud on Linux (project Kronos) * * Grant McWilliams http://grantmcwilliams.com/ Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use Windows." Now they have two problems. --f46d0437490b05fcfb04b436b5a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My =C2=A0thoughts

Xen Cloud =3D Cloud built u= sing XAPI and Xen Hypervisor
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Xen Cloud packages = =3D Intallable=C2=A0packages=C2=A0to create Xen Cloud on Linux (project Kro= nos)


Grant McWilliams
http://grantmcwilliams.com/<= br>
Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I&#= 39;ll use Windows."
Now they have two problems.


--f46d0437490b05fcfb04b436b5a7-- --===============7625386761231537573== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============7625386761231537573==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 14:49:40 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:49:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbZ6L-0000EP-CN; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:49:33 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbZ6K-0000Dl-9u for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:49:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: grantmasterflash@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324046965!7552737!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.4 required=7.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26213 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 14:49:26 -0000 Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com (HELO mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com) (209.85.215.43) by server-9.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 14:49:26 -0000 Received: by lagw12 with SMTP id w12so5000328lag.30 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:49:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=0not5vBe1jY1WRIRLNd4uhYVuIz0fRYJfTFBebphuz4=; b=iNT5V7cL44kq1fdAOs9EtbwPoVxBTBA3xzEcEfl8ctgeS6iYyWENNLqX068AIEunlH 27MQnvqoPzIIQ3lSECWC5BU6ZGQSlOLJu1xFUfqmbzEcE20DTezec2vOq2X2TwFlRO4j hYxAu6jDuGSoOqA+JoOplGcQu5X5fg3TZTEm4= Received: by 10.152.135.179 with SMTP id pt19mr7773025lab.47.1324046965144; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:49:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.145.71 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:48:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EEB37E8.9020509@citrix.com> References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> <078FBC2E-A120-4576-8D24-9ED986AF2F3C@ocean.net.au> <4EEB37E8.9020509@citrix.com> From: Grant McWilliams Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:48:44 -0800 Message-ID: To: Wawrzek Niewodniczanski Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7625386761231537573==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============7625386761231537573== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0437490b05fcfb04b436b5a7 --f46d0437490b05fcfb04b436b5a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 My thoughts Xen Cloud = Cloud built using XAPI and Xen Hypervisor Xen Cloud Platform = Installable operating system providing Xen Cloud Xen Cloud packages = Intallable packages to create Xen Cloud on Linux (project Kronos) * * Grant McWilliams http://grantmcwilliams.com/ Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use Windows." Now they have two problems. --f46d0437490b05fcfb04b436b5a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My =C2=A0thoughts

Xen Cloud =3D Cloud built u= sing XAPI and Xen Hypervisor
Xen Cloud Platform =3D=C2=A0Installa= ble=C2=A0operating system providing Xen Cloud
Xen Cloud packages = =3D Intallable=C2=A0packages=C2=A0to create Xen Cloud on Linux (project Kro= nos)


Grant McWilliams
http://grantmcwilliams.com/<= br>
Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I&#= 39;ll use Windows."
Now they have two problems.


--f46d0437490b05fcfb04b436b5a7-- --===============7625386761231537573== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============7625386761231537573==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 21:07:41 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:07:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rbf06-0002Xr-LM; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:07:30 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rbf04-0002Xa-Ju; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:07:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: todd.deshane.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324069639!5698079!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.161.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.8 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_10,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 10612 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 21:07:21 -0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-gx0-f171.google.com) (209.85.161.171) by server-15.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 21:07:21 -0000 Received: by ggnh4 with SMTP id h4so13012444ggn.30 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:07:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=WHMD2fF4kUaV9rMQaktk3xyXXZPcyaoqmfdgEFSsC7k=; b=JvdCqq3phGY/AXTu7Y0TlVuexmY32mGqVFFsgWdjhpBkcMjIp1o2H6w5sFvbw5a8k9 btMNkh/k0pPgAq1WETUod9SzjlVAfZ8sR0PR6f4fv/q3s3d1IIkQCUC9dbd8b6jBXMJ/ /ONa0DCUprx/yBmMXsWrbpij78XyYdVJCwLEI= Received: by 10.50.171.3 with SMTP id aq3mr10799909igc.49.1324069638627; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:07:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.172.131 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:06:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> <078FBC2E-A120-4576-8D24-9ED986AF2F3C@ocean.net.au> <4EEB37E8.9020509@citrix.com> From: Todd Deshane Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:06:55 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: MfeD-s1a8oK_XUGijVa5kH7Mu84 Message-ID: To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com, xen-users mailing list Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com At the end of the day XCP, whether in the form of a pre-packaged appliance distribution or installed on top of a standard Linux distribution, is more than just Xen + XAPI. It's Xen + XAPI + xe + Open vSwitch + (anything else needed to make it a great platform). So, I tend to agree with Wawrzek in that there should be a meta package (a package that has nothing in it, but depends on everything that should be installed) called xcp-full (or xcp-system or whatever we decide). The compromise that the packages are xcp-*, such as xcp-xapi seems OK, since that is where they came from, but in the long run we need to think clearly about version compatibility between xcp-xapi and any other packaged versions of xapi that are being developed (not to imply that xapi should be fragmented, see below). We really want to avoid the XenCenter version mismatch issues in the future, especially when xapi-based systems are being managed by a lot of different interfaces OpenXenManager, OpenStack, Cloudstack, Zentific, to name a few. Project Kronos (and that is all it should be - a project code name), represents a great opportunity for the Xen community and I know that a lot of people are excited about its future. There are some open questions, but I think it is likely they will just work themselves out just like any other open source project. I think the use cases for xcp-full installed on a Xen dom0 via a package install on a normal Linux distribution are clear and the trade-offs have been discussed in some detail [1][2]. The great thing about having the multiple different choices is one of the really great thing about Xen. It is also perfectly reasonable for someone to build an XCP distribution appliance based on Ubuntu or Debian or any other distro (Citrix may even decide to use a different distro for the basis of XenServer). In practice, the xapi package should be the most cutting-edge version of the API available, followed by xcp-xapi, which in practice will be (at least currently is) the same as the XAPI version in XenServer. Cutting-edge does not need to mean unstable, in fact I think it is understood that regular stable versions of xapi will be available and get integrated into XCP/XAPI-based distributions (like XCP and XenServer) as the maintainers of those projects/products see fit. As long as xapi remains unified, there is no fragmentation. When working with a custom XCP, XCP itself, or XenServer the question will be what version of XAPI is available? This will determine the feature set available underneath. This is the way management tools like XenCenter, CloudStack etc. *should* work. We need to move away from relying on a specific version of XCP, XenServer, etc. and instead rely on specific feature sets or versions of xapi itself. I propose that at some point over the course of this year (after an official release of Project Kronos is out the door) that we have a XAPI/XCP hackathon. We can invite XAPI/XCP devs to it and also have a devops-based track that proposes projects based on custom XCP(-full) setups that may or may not need explicit help from XAPI itself. I invite you to start brainstorming ideas, but while you do that check out the great material that came out of the Xen Day [3] last week. This material will inspire you to want to hack on xapi, or write scripts for it, or create your own HA/FT solution based on DRDB and pacemaker. The momentum around XAPI/XCP is ours to take into the future of the data center and the cloud. Go forth and use XCP or xcp-xapi, or choose to get support from a vendor like Citrix and run XenServer. ...What are you going to build today? [1] http://www.slideshare.net/deshantm/project-kronos-openstackdesignsummit [2] http://www.slideshare.net/deshantm/why-choose-xen-for-your-cloud [3] http://xen.org/community/xenday11.html _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 16 21:07:41 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:07:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rbf06-0002Xr-LM; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:07:30 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rbf04-0002Xa-Ju; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:07:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: todd.deshane.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324069639!5698079!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.161.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.8 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_10,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 10612 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2011 21:07:21 -0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-gx0-f171.google.com) (209.85.161.171) by server-15.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Dec 2011 21:07:21 -0000 Received: by ggnh4 with SMTP id h4so13012444ggn.30 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:07:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=WHMD2fF4kUaV9rMQaktk3xyXXZPcyaoqmfdgEFSsC7k=; b=JvdCqq3phGY/AXTu7Y0TlVuexmY32mGqVFFsgWdjhpBkcMjIp1o2H6w5sFvbw5a8k9 btMNkh/k0pPgAq1WETUod9SzjlVAfZ8sR0PR6f4fv/q3s3d1IIkQCUC9dbd8b6jBXMJ/ /ONa0DCUprx/yBmMXsWrbpij78XyYdVJCwLEI= Received: by 10.50.171.3 with SMTP id aq3mr10799909igc.49.1324069638627; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:07:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.172.131 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:06:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> <078FBC2E-A120-4576-8D24-9ED986AF2F3C@ocean.net.au> <4EEB37E8.9020509@citrix.com> From: Todd Deshane Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:06:55 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: MfeD-s1a8oK_XUGijVa5kH7Mu84 Message-ID: To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com, xen-users mailing list Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com At the end of the day XCP, whether in the form of a pre-packaged appliance distribution or installed on top of a standard Linux distribution, is more than just Xen + XAPI. It's Xen + XAPI + xe + Open vSwitch + (anything else needed to make it a great platform). So, I tend to agree with Wawrzek in that there should be a meta package (a package that has nothing in it, but depends on everything that should be installed) called xcp-full (or xcp-system or whatever we decide). The compromise that the packages are xcp-*, such as xcp-xapi seems OK, since that is where they came from, but in the long run we need to think clearly about version compatibility between xcp-xapi and any other packaged versions of xapi that are being developed (not to imply that xapi should be fragmented, see below). We really want to avoid the XenCenter version mismatch issues in the future, especially when xapi-based systems are being managed by a lot of different interfaces OpenXenManager, OpenStack, Cloudstack, Zentific, to name a few. Project Kronos (and that is all it should be - a project code name), represents a great opportunity for the Xen community and I know that a lot of people are excited about its future. There are some open questions, but I think it is likely they will just work themselves out just like any other open source project. I think the use cases for xcp-full installed on a Xen dom0 via a package install on a normal Linux distribution are clear and the trade-offs have been discussed in some detail [1][2]. The great thing about having the multiple different choices is one of the really great thing about Xen. It is also perfectly reasonable for someone to build an XCP distribution appliance based on Ubuntu or Debian or any other distro (Citrix may even decide to use a different distro for the basis of XenServer). In practice, the xapi package should be the most cutting-edge version of the API available, followed by xcp-xapi, which in practice will be (at least currently is) the same as the XAPI version in XenServer. Cutting-edge does not need to mean unstable, in fact I think it is understood that regular stable versions of xapi will be available and get integrated into XCP/XAPI-based distributions (like XCP and XenServer) as the maintainers of those projects/products see fit. As long as xapi remains unified, there is no fragmentation. When working with a custom XCP, XCP itself, or XenServer the question will be what version of XAPI is available? This will determine the feature set available underneath. This is the way management tools like XenCenter, CloudStack etc. *should* work. We need to move away from relying on a specific version of XCP, XenServer, etc. and instead rely on specific feature sets or versions of xapi itself. I propose that at some point over the course of this year (after an official release of Project Kronos is out the door) that we have a XAPI/XCP hackathon. We can invite XAPI/XCP devs to it and also have a devops-based track that proposes projects based on custom XCP(-full) setups that may or may not need explicit help from XAPI itself. I invite you to start brainstorming ideas, but while you do that check out the great material that came out of the Xen Day [3] last week. This material will inspire you to want to hack on xapi, or write scripts for it, or create your own HA/FT solution based on DRDB and pacemaker. The momentum around XAPI/XCP is ours to take into the future of the data center and the cloud. Go forth and use XCP or xcp-xapi, or choose to get support from a vendor like Citrix and run XenServer. ...What are you going to build today? [1] http://www.slideshare.net/deshantm/project-kronos-openstackdesignsummit [2] http://www.slideshare.net/deshantm/why-choose-xen-for-your-cloud [3] http://xen.org/community/xenday11.html _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sat Dec 17 05:35:04 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 05:35:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rbmv9-0004nh-4m; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 05:34:55 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rbmv8-0004nb-58 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 05:34:54 +0000 X-Env-Sender: scottz@wi.rr.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324099967!48672499!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.74.56.123] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNzEuNzQuNTYuMTIzID0+IDM5NjA1Ng==\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_10,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 10667 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2011 05:32:47 -0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (HELO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (71.74.56.123) by server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 2011 05:32:47 -0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrfcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:17 a=akDsyBIaq0wA:10 a=4zAkkIffri8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Bi6GNO_xAAAA:8 a=mLnsDVdbAAAA:8 a=SEF7xSSsAAAA:8 a=ruzzBhBRAAAA:8 a=Fc6WjzKeFPTGUF8Ud8QA:9 a=PnL6G5vGsOnnY3mURksA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=3RzoB7aSXrQA:10 a=_79gzEsse28A:10 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.56.78.150 Received: from [24.56.78.150] ([24.56.78.150:59415] helo=106.red-80-38-100.staticip.rima-tde.net) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 02/58-22516-BF92CEE4; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 05:34:52 +0000 Message-ID: <4EEC29EB.8030707@wi.rr.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 23:34:35 -0600 From: Scott Zupek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> <078FBC2E-A120-4576-8D24-9ED986AF2F3C@ocean.net.au> <4EEB37E8.9020509@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 12/16/11 3:06 PM, Todd Deshane wrote: > At the end of the day XCP, whether in the form of a pre-packaged > appliance distribution or installed on top of a standard Linux > distribution, is more than just Xen + XAPI. It's Xen + XAPI + xe + > Open vSwitch + (anything else needed to make it a great platform). So, > I tend to agree with Wawrzek in that there should be a meta package (a > package that has nothing in it, but depends on everything that should > be installed) called xcp-full (or xcp-system or whatever we decide). > > The compromise that the packages are xcp-*, such as xcp-xapi seems OK, > since that is where they came from, but in the long run we need to > think clearly about version compatibility between xcp-xapi and any > other packaged versions of xapi that are being developed (not to imply > that xapi should be fragmented, see below). We really want to avoid > the XenCenter version mismatch issues in the future, especially when > xapi-based systems are being managed by a lot of different interfaces > OpenXenManager, OpenStack, Cloudstack, Zentific, to name a few. > > Project Kronos (and that is all it should be - a project code name), > represents a great opportunity for the Xen community and I know that a > lot of people are excited about its future. There are some open > questions, but I think it is likely they will just work themselves out > just like any other open source project. > > I think the use cases for xcp-full installed on a Xen dom0 via a > package install on a normal Linux distribution are clear and the > trade-offs have been discussed in some detail [1][2]. The great thing > about having the multiple different choices is one of the really great > thing about Xen. It is also perfectly reasonable for someone to build > an XCP distribution appliance based on Ubuntu or Debian or any other > distro (Citrix may even decide to use a different distro for the basis > of XenServer). > > In practice, the xapi package should be the most cutting-edge version > of the API available, followed by xcp-xapi, which in practice will be > (at least currently is) the same as the XAPI version in XenServer. > Cutting-edge does not need to mean unstable, in fact I think it is > understood that regular stable versions of xapi will be available and > get integrated into XCP/XAPI-based distributions (like XCP and > XenServer) as the maintainers of those projects/products see fit. > > As long as xapi remains unified, there is no fragmentation. When > working with a custom XCP, XCP itself, or XenServer the question will > be what version of XAPI is available? This will determine the feature > set available underneath. This is the way management tools like > XenCenter, CloudStack etc. *should* work. We need to move away from > relying on a specific version of XCP, XenServer, etc. and instead rely > on specific feature sets or versions of xapi itself. > > I propose that at some point over the course of this year (after an > official release of Project Kronos is out the door) that we have a > XAPI/XCP hackathon. We can invite XAPI/XCP devs to it and also have a > devops-based track that proposes projects based on custom XCP(-full) > setups that may or may not need explicit help from XAPI itself. I > invite you to start brainstorming ideas, but while you do that check > out the great material that came out of the Xen Day [3] last week. > This material will inspire you to want to hack on xapi, or write > scripts for it, or create your own HA/FT solution based on DRDB and > pacemaker. > > The momentum around XAPI/XCP is ours to take into the future of the > data center and the cloud. Go forth and use XCP or xcp-xapi, or choose > to get support from a vendor like Citrix and run XenServer. > > ...What are you going to build today? > > [1] http://www.slideshare.net/deshantm/project-kronos-openstackdesignsummit > [2] http://www.slideshare.net/deshantm/why-choose-xen-for-your-cloud > [3] http://xen.org/community/xenday11.html > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > This article is brings up a good point about XEN and the writers/professionals believed view of it being gone in 10 years. http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/121311-hypervisor-roundtable-253986.html _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sat Dec 17 05:35:04 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 05:35:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rbmv9-0004nh-4m; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 05:34:55 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rbmv8-0004nb-58 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 05:34:54 +0000 X-Env-Sender: scottz@wi.rr.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324099967!48672499!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.74.56.123] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNzEuNzQuNTYuMTIzID0+IDM5NjA1Ng==\n, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_10,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 10667 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2011 05:32:47 -0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (HELO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (71.74.56.123) by server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 2011 05:32:47 -0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrfcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:17 a=akDsyBIaq0wA:10 a=4zAkkIffri8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Bi6GNO_xAAAA:8 a=mLnsDVdbAAAA:8 a=SEF7xSSsAAAA:8 a=ruzzBhBRAAAA:8 a=Fc6WjzKeFPTGUF8Ud8QA:9 a=PnL6G5vGsOnnY3mURksA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=3RzoB7aSXrQA:10 a=_79gzEsse28A:10 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.56.78.150 Received: from [24.56.78.150] ([24.56.78.150:59415] helo=106.red-80-38-100.staticip.rima-tde.net) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 02/58-22516-BF92CEE4; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 05:34:52 +0000 Message-ID: <4EEC29EB.8030707@wi.rr.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 23:34:35 -0600 From: Scott Zupek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> <078FBC2E-A120-4576-8D24-9ED986AF2F3C@ocean.net.au> <4EEB37E8.9020509@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 12/16/11 3:06 PM, Todd Deshane wrote: > At the end of the day XCP, whether in the form of a pre-packaged > appliance distribution or installed on top of a standard Linux > distribution, is more than just Xen + XAPI. It's Xen + XAPI + xe + > Open vSwitch + (anything else needed to make it a great platform). So, > I tend to agree with Wawrzek in that there should be a meta package (a > package that has nothing in it, but depends on everything that should > be installed) called xcp-full (or xcp-system or whatever we decide). > > The compromise that the packages are xcp-*, such as xcp-xapi seems OK, > since that is where they came from, but in the long run we need to > think clearly about version compatibility between xcp-xapi and any > other packaged versions of xapi that are being developed (not to imply > that xapi should be fragmented, see below). We really want to avoid > the XenCenter version mismatch issues in the future, especially when > xapi-based systems are being managed by a lot of different interfaces > OpenXenManager, OpenStack, Cloudstack, Zentific, to name a few. > > Project Kronos (and that is all it should be - a project code name), > represents a great opportunity for the Xen community and I know that a > lot of people are excited about its future. There are some open > questions, but I think it is likely they will just work themselves out > just like any other open source project. > > I think the use cases for xcp-full installed on a Xen dom0 via a > package install on a normal Linux distribution are clear and the > trade-offs have been discussed in some detail [1][2]. The great thing > about having the multiple different choices is one of the really great > thing about Xen. It is also perfectly reasonable for someone to build > an XCP distribution appliance based on Ubuntu or Debian or any other > distro (Citrix may even decide to use a different distro for the basis > of XenServer). > > In practice, the xapi package should be the most cutting-edge version > of the API available, followed by xcp-xapi, which in practice will be > (at least currently is) the same as the XAPI version in XenServer. > Cutting-edge does not need to mean unstable, in fact I think it is > understood that regular stable versions of xapi will be available and > get integrated into XCP/XAPI-based distributions (like XCP and > XenServer) as the maintainers of those projects/products see fit. > > As long as xapi remains unified, there is no fragmentation. When > working with a custom XCP, XCP itself, or XenServer the question will > be what version of XAPI is available? This will determine the feature > set available underneath. This is the way management tools like > XenCenter, CloudStack etc. *should* work. We need to move away from > relying on a specific version of XCP, XenServer, etc. and instead rely > on specific feature sets or versions of xapi itself. > > I propose that at some point over the course of this year (after an > official release of Project Kronos is out the door) that we have a > XAPI/XCP hackathon. We can invite XAPI/XCP devs to it and also have a > devops-based track that proposes projects based on custom XCP(-full) > setups that may or may not need explicit help from XAPI itself. I > invite you to start brainstorming ideas, but while you do that check > out the great material that came out of the Xen Day [3] last week. > This material will inspire you to want to hack on xapi, or write > scripts for it, or create your own HA/FT solution based on DRDB and > pacemaker. > > The momentum around XAPI/XCP is ours to take into the future of the > data center and the cloud. Go forth and use XCP or xcp-xapi, or choose > to get support from a vendor like Citrix and run XenServer. > > ...What are you going to build today? > > [1] http://www.slideshare.net/deshantm/project-kronos-openstackdesignsummit > [2] http://www.slideshare.net/deshantm/why-choose-xen-for-your-cloud > [3] http://xen.org/community/xenday11.html > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > This article is brings up a good point about XEN and the writers/professionals believed view of it being gone in 10 years. http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/121311-hypervisor-roundtable-253986.html _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sat Dec 17 08:12:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:12:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbpNR-0006S7-LU; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:12:17 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbpNP-0006Rz-Nn for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:12:15 +0000 X-Env-Sender: grantmasterflash@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324109483!57676683!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.9 required=7.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1735 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2011 08:11:23 -0000 Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com (HELO mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com) (209.85.215.43) by server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Dec 2011 08:11:23 -0000 Received: by lagw12 with SMTP id w12so5942402lag.30 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 00:12:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=IqCELIA+MN9NOwwkG9x0rdEqbRV84g2Bu5YKEkghApo=; b=eXcs3/wOAr4BFkoFBMPbDHVXd01zdPH/xrEjfrRpTAZ8z/TRQsnpUIb75/8s2xCiKe cinxM4fWs92XTPd2HcsXVdWR11sg8RK8laG8ppnaQo/NPwy6RvMBdrsyQF5nVWGxPb8c Uql2usQ6lgpUq+bgTvIW35e7OZhrfhBkMsFh4= Received: by 10.152.131.202 with SMTP id oo10mr10096931lab.40.1324109533159; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 00:12:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.145.71 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 00:11:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EEC29EB.8030707@wi.rr.com> References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> <078FBC2E-A120-4576-8D24-9ED986AF2F3C@ocean.net.au> <4EEB37E8.9020509@citrix.com> <4EEC29EB.8030707@wi.rr.com> From: Grant McWilliams Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 00:11:32 -0800 Message-ID: To: Scott Zupek Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2621478531565563194==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============2621478531565563194== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042d05a05e213b04b4454683 --f46d042d05a05e213b04b4454683 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > This article is brings up a good point about XEN and the > writers/professionals believed view of it being gone in 10 years. > > http://www.networkworld.com/**news/2011/121311-hypervisor-** > roundtable-253986.html > > > > Do people even care about the Hypervisor anymore? As Linus once said about the kernel "Some day people will realize the kernel doesn't matter anymore". May not be a direct quote. I think most of the top Hypervisors are equally capable and it's the management stacks around them that's truly important. In 10 years all of the current hypervisors may be gone. Who knows. Grant McWilliams http://grantmcwilliams.com/ Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use Windows." Now they have two problems. --f46d042d05a05e213b04b4454683 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This article is brings up a good point about XEN and the writers/profession= als believed view of it being gone in 10 years.

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2= 011/121311-hypervisor-roundtable-253986.html




Do people even care ab= out the Hypervisor anymore? As Linus once said about the kernel "Some = day people will realize the kernel doesn't matter anymore". May no= t be a direct quote.=C2=A0

I think most of the top Hypervisors are equally capable= and it's the management stacks around them that's truly important.= In 10 years all of the current hypervisors may be gone. Who knows.


Grant McWilliams
http://grantmcwilliams.com/

= Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll u= se Windows."=C2=A0
Now they have two problems.=C2=A0
--f46d042d05a05e213b04b4454683-- --===============2621478531565563194== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============2621478531565563194==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sat Dec 17 08:12:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:12:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbpNR-0006S7-LU; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:12:17 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbpNP-0006Rz-Nn for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:12:15 +0000 X-Env-Sender: grantmasterflash@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324109483!57676683!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.9 required=7.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1735 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2011 08:11:23 -0000 Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com (HELO mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com) (209.85.215.43) by server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Dec 2011 08:11:23 -0000 Received: by lagw12 with SMTP id w12so5942402lag.30 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 00:12:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=IqCELIA+MN9NOwwkG9x0rdEqbRV84g2Bu5YKEkghApo=; b=eXcs3/wOAr4BFkoFBMPbDHVXd01zdPH/xrEjfrRpTAZ8z/TRQsnpUIb75/8s2xCiKe cinxM4fWs92XTPd2HcsXVdWR11sg8RK8laG8ppnaQo/NPwy6RvMBdrsyQF5nVWGxPb8c Uql2usQ6lgpUq+bgTvIW35e7OZhrfhBkMsFh4= Received: by 10.152.131.202 with SMTP id oo10mr10096931lab.40.1324109533159; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 00:12:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.145.71 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 00:11:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EEC29EB.8030707@wi.rr.com> References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> <078FBC2E-A120-4576-8D24-9ED986AF2F3C@ocean.net.au> <4EEB37E8.9020509@citrix.com> <4EEC29EB.8030707@wi.rr.com> From: Grant McWilliams Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 00:11:32 -0800 Message-ID: To: Scott Zupek Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2621478531565563194==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============2621478531565563194== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042d05a05e213b04b4454683 --f46d042d05a05e213b04b4454683 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > This article is brings up a good point about XEN and the > writers/professionals believed view of it being gone in 10 years. > > http://www.networkworld.com/**news/2011/121311-hypervisor-** > roundtable-253986.html > > > > Do people even care about the Hypervisor anymore? As Linus once said about the kernel "Some day people will realize the kernel doesn't matter anymore". May not be a direct quote. I think most of the top Hypervisors are equally capable and it's the management stacks around them that's truly important. In 10 years all of the current hypervisors may be gone. Who knows. Grant McWilliams http://grantmcwilliams.com/ Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use Windows." Now they have two problems. --f46d042d05a05e213b04b4454683 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This article is brings up a good point about XEN and the writers/profession= als believed view of it being gone in 10 years.

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2= 011/121311-hypervisor-roundtable-253986.html




Do people even care ab= out the Hypervisor anymore? As Linus once said about the kernel "Some = day people will realize the kernel doesn't matter anymore". May no= t be a direct quote.=C2=A0

I think most of the top Hypervisors are equally capable= and it's the management stacks around them that's truly important.= In 10 years all of the current hypervisors may be gone. Who knows.


Grant McWilliams
http://grantmcwilliams.com/

= Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll u= se Windows."=C2=A0
Now they have two problems.=C2=A0
--f46d042d05a05e213b04b4454683-- --===============2621478531565563194== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============2621478531565563194==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sat Dec 17 10:35:03 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:35:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbrbS-0007oa-Gq; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:34:54 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbrbR-0007oS-Ax; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:34:53 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pasik@iki.fi X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324118086!7667481!1 X-Originating-IP: [192.89.123.25] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTkyLjg5LjEyMy4yNSA9PiAzODc4ODM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1099 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2011 10:34:47 -0000 Received: from smtp.tele.fi (HELO smtp.tele.fi) (192.89.123.25) by server-5.tower-182.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Dec 2011 10:34:47 -0000 X-Originating-Ip: [194.89.68.22] Received: from ydin.reaktio.net (reaktio.net [194.89.68.22]) by smtp.tele.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6019D19E8; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:34:45 +0200 (EET) Received: by ydin.reaktio.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 12A4C20056; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:34:45 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:34:44 +0200 From: Pasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4rkk=E4inen?= To: xen-devel.GarveyPatrickD@OrdinaryAmerican.net Message-ID: <20111217103444.GB12984@reaktio.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] OCaml Tutorial X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 03:38:32PM -0800, xen-devel.GarveyPatrickD@OrdinaryAmerican.net wrote: > It appears the OCaml Tutorial < www.ocaml-tutorial.org > referenced in > our XAPI Developer Guide wiki article < > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XAPI_Developer_Guide > is not reliably > accessible. Can one of our experienced OCaml programmers suggest an > alternative that provides a sufficient tutorial for Xen users of > OCaml? Is < http://mirror.ocamlcore.org/ocaml-tutorial.org/ > > sufficient? > I added xen-api mailinglist to the CC list.. -- Pasi _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sat Dec 17 10:35:03 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:35:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbrbS-0007oa-Gq; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:34:54 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbrbR-0007oS-Ax; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:34:53 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pasik@iki.fi X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324118086!7667481!1 X-Originating-IP: [192.89.123.25] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTkyLjg5LjEyMy4yNSA9PiAzODc4ODM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1099 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2011 10:34:47 -0000 Received: from smtp.tele.fi (HELO smtp.tele.fi) (192.89.123.25) by server-5.tower-182.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Dec 2011 10:34:47 -0000 X-Originating-Ip: [194.89.68.22] Received: from ydin.reaktio.net (reaktio.net [194.89.68.22]) by smtp.tele.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6019D19E8; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:34:45 +0200 (EET) Received: by ydin.reaktio.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 12A4C20056; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:34:45 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:34:44 +0200 From: Pasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4rkk=E4inen?= To: xen-devel.GarveyPatrickD@OrdinaryAmerican.net Message-ID: <20111217103444.GB12984@reaktio.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] OCaml Tutorial X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 03:38:32PM -0800, xen-devel.GarveyPatrickD@OrdinaryAmerican.net wrote: > It appears the OCaml Tutorial < www.ocaml-tutorial.org > referenced in > our XAPI Developer Guide wiki article < > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XAPI_Developer_Guide > is not reliably > accessible. Can one of our experienced OCaml programmers suggest an > alternative that provides a sufficient tutorial for Xen users of > OCaml? Is < http://mirror.ocamlcore.org/ocaml-tutorial.org/ > > sufficient? > I added xen-api mailinglist to the CC list.. -- Pasi _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sun Dec 18 10:12:54 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:12:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcDjZ-0006l5-J9; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:12:45 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcDjX-0006l0-Kn for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:12:43 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324203106!57749257!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.5 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 30396 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2011 10:11:47 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2011 10:11:47 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.1] (raptor.private.ocean.net.au [192.168.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DDEC42805E for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 20:12:34 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: <6B3F33CF-EC4F-4BAC-BA2D-D5C0284374CC@eu.citrix.com> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 20:12:34 +1000 Message-Id: References: <6B3F33CF-EC4F-4BAC-BA2D-D5C0284374CC@eu.citrix.com> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Debian repo broken X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com It was a minor inconvenience - the path to the Debian repository root changed without warning. Not generally a big deal. But it makes it hard to secure management support for the adoption of a project when you're demonstrating installation to a stakeholder and everything fails embarrassingly due to unannounced changes to released artefacts. On 16/12/2011, at 8:34 PM, Jonathan Ludlam wrote: > It's not been intentionally broken, though I have been fiddling with the jenkins job that creates it. > > In what sense do you think it has been reorganised? > > Jon > > On 15 Dec 2011, at 22:47, Dave Whitla wrote: > >> Did someone reorganise the repository? >> Could you please announce changes before making them. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dave >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sun Dec 18 10:12:54 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:12:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcDjZ-0006l5-J9; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:12:45 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcDjX-0006l0-Kn for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:12:43 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324203106!57749257!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.5 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 30396 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2011 10:11:47 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2011 10:11:47 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.1] (raptor.private.ocean.net.au [192.168.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DDEC42805E for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 20:12:34 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: <6B3F33CF-EC4F-4BAC-BA2D-D5C0284374CC@eu.citrix.com> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 20:12:34 +1000 Message-Id: References: <6B3F33CF-EC4F-4BAC-BA2D-D5C0284374CC@eu.citrix.com> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Debian repo broken X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com It was a minor inconvenience - the path to the Debian repository root changed without warning. Not generally a big deal. But it makes it hard to secure management support for the adoption of a project when you're demonstrating installation to a stakeholder and everything fails embarrassingly due to unannounced changes to released artefacts. On 16/12/2011, at 8:34 PM, Jonathan Ludlam wrote: > It's not been intentionally broken, though I have been fiddling with the jenkins job that creates it. > > In what sense do you think it has been reorganised? > > Jon > > On 15 Dec 2011, at 22:47, Dave Whitla wrote: > >> Did someone reorganise the repository? >> Could you please announce changes before making them. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dave >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sun Dec 18 23:45:52 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:45:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcQQF-0006LG-Uy; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:45:39 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcQQE-0006LB-D5 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:45:38 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324251930!7758216!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5604 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2011 23:45:31 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-4.tower-182.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2011 23:45:31 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 958602805E; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:45:28 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: <4EEC29EB.8030707@wi.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:45:22 +1000 Message-Id: References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> <078FBC2E-A120-4576-8D24-9ED986AF2F3C@ocean.net.au> <4EEB37E8.9020509@citrix.com> <4EEC29EB.8030707@wi.rr.com> To: Scott Zupek X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Most telling was Al Gillen's complete misunderstanding of the difference between the Xen packages such as the hypervisor itself and the canned distros which bundle the Xen hypervisor. He cited fragmentation in the codebase being a maintenance impediment to Xen. Because analysts don't actually know anything about the implementation of things they make completely erroneous and misleading public statements. But, to cover their arses, they pick ludicrously long prediction timeframes. Ten years in IT is an eon. Dave On 17/12/2011, at 3:34 PM, Scott Zupek wrote: > > This article is brings up a good point about XEN and the writers/professionals believed view of it being gone in 10 years. > > http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/121311-hypervisor-roundtable-253986.html > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sun Dec 18 23:45:52 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:45:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcQQF-0006LG-Uy; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:45:39 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcQQE-0006LB-D5 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:45:38 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324251930!7758216!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5604 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2011 23:45:31 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-4.tower-182.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2011 23:45:31 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 958602805E; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:45:28 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: <4EEC29EB.8030707@wi.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:45:22 +1000 Message-Id: References: <4EE08360.5010701@citrix.com> <20111211190619.GR12984@reaktio.net> <4EE8DCC7.8090708@citrix.com> <000401ccba86$6aca7960$405f6c20$@com> <4EE8E46D.1030807@citrix.com> <20111215120156.GW12984@reaktio.net> <4EE9F156.5010105@citrix.com> <4EEABBF0.8000900@wi.rr.com> <078FBC2E-A120-4576-8D24-9ED986AF2F3C@ocean.net.au> <4EEB37E8.9020509@citrix.com> <4EEC29EB.8030707@wi.rr.com> To: Scott Zupek X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-users] New name for Kronos? [was XCP 1.5 availability] X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Most telling was Al Gillen's complete misunderstanding of the difference between the Xen packages such as the hypervisor itself and the canned distros which bundle the Xen hypervisor. He cited fragmentation in the codebase being a maintenance impediment to Xen. Because analysts don't actually know anything about the implementation of things they make completely erroneous and misleading public statements. But, to cover their arses, they pick ludicrously long prediction timeframes. Ten years in IT is an eon. Dave On 17/12/2011, at 3:34 PM, Scott Zupek wrote: > > This article is brings up a good point about XEN and the writers/professionals believed view of it being gone in 10 years. > > http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/121311-hypervisor-roundtable-253986.html > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 19 06:19:34 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:19:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcWZH-0005oV-E9; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:19:23 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcWZG-0005oQ-66 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:19:22 +0000 X-Env-Sender: outbackdingo@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324275515!49529139!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11447 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2011 06:18:35 -0000 Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com (HELO mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com) (209.85.215.43) by server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 19 Dec 2011 06:18:35 -0000 Received: by lagw12 with SMTP id w12so7318444lag.30 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:19:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Jdv1Wh5dqcnPOdwRKrUyB6/As6Zy1ghpk8Y1+6nfUTE=; b=G8zpQ8n2HWDBfsacqkxfJJdeWO8JUyL1SwJv3QktPko5gEDYQ0unWsB402nDXXbFqV XpwGpb8sI8agEGrVAJN1aclP7HZXfaCCan3xcVg5lrGtO/yqy7AVeu7C0I1z6gnPBL66 Za1osqnsIHyE8UqAGyhZrKBWxiyptEZEIwFgQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.135.195 with SMTP id pu3mr15051849lab.17.1324275559481; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:19:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.24.195 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:19:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:19:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: Outback Dingo To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: [Xen-API] kronos - xe template-list empty / default-sr X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi guys, So i installed "kronos" on Ubuntu 11.10 (Really Linux Mint 12.0) following the guide and using the ubuntu repos deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-xen-org/xcp-unstable/ubuntu oneiric main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-xen-org/xcp-unstable/ubuntu oneiric main as written, ive gotten all the packages installed and successfully configured and rebooted all appears good, though trying to create an instance from a template xe template-list appears empty like there are no templates i did an apt-cache search xcp and found some xcp packages so then... apt-get install xcp-guest-templates xcp-vncterm xcp-storage-managers Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done xcp-guest-templates is already the newest version. xcp-guest-templates set to manually installed. xcp-vncterm is already the newest version. xcp-vncterm set to manually installed. xcp-storage-managers is already the newest version. xcp-storage-managers set to manually installed. any ideas..... secondly i have an lvm on /dev/mapper/test-builder on /usr/builder type xfs (rw,nosuid) can i use it for the default sr , and if so how to map it _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 19 06:19:34 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:19:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcWZH-0005oV-E9; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:19:23 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcWZG-0005oQ-66 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:19:22 +0000 X-Env-Sender: outbackdingo@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324275515!49529139!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11447 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2011 06:18:35 -0000 Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com (HELO mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com) (209.85.215.43) by server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 19 Dec 2011 06:18:35 -0000 Received: by lagw12 with SMTP id w12so7318444lag.30 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:19:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Jdv1Wh5dqcnPOdwRKrUyB6/As6Zy1ghpk8Y1+6nfUTE=; b=G8zpQ8n2HWDBfsacqkxfJJdeWO8JUyL1SwJv3QktPko5gEDYQ0unWsB402nDXXbFqV XpwGpb8sI8agEGrVAJN1aclP7HZXfaCCan3xcVg5lrGtO/yqy7AVeu7C0I1z6gnPBL66 Za1osqnsIHyE8UqAGyhZrKBWxiyptEZEIwFgQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.135.195 with SMTP id pu3mr15051849lab.17.1324275559481; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:19:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.24.195 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:19:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:19:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: Outback Dingo To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: [Xen-API] kronos - xe template-list empty / default-sr X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi guys, So i installed "kronos" on Ubuntu 11.10 (Really Linux Mint 12.0) following the guide and using the ubuntu repos deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-xen-org/xcp-unstable/ubuntu oneiric main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-xen-org/xcp-unstable/ubuntu oneiric main as written, ive gotten all the packages installed and successfully configured and rebooted all appears good, though trying to create an instance from a template xe template-list appears empty like there are no templates i did an apt-cache search xcp and found some xcp packages so then... apt-get install xcp-guest-templates xcp-vncterm xcp-storage-managers Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done xcp-guest-templates is already the newest version. xcp-guest-templates set to manually installed. xcp-vncterm is already the newest version. xcp-vncterm set to manually installed. xcp-storage-managers is already the newest version. xcp-storage-managers set to manually installed. any ideas..... secondly i have an lvm on /dev/mapper/test-builder on /usr/builder type xfs (rw,nosuid) can i use it for the default sr , and if so how to map it _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 19 08:22:28 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 08:22:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcYUF-0007Gr-KF; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 08:22:19 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcYUD-0007Gg-DT; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 08:22:17 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pasik@iki.fi X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324282930!6073935!1 X-Originating-IP: [192.89.123.25] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTkyLjg5LjEyMy4yNSA9PiAzNzcxODc=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 14633 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2011 08:22:10 -0000 Received: from smtp.tele.fi (HELO smtp.tele.fi) (192.89.123.25) by server-11.tower-174.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 19 Dec 2011 08:22:10 -0000 X-Originating-Ip: [194.89.68.22] Received: from ydin.reaktio.net (reaktio.net [194.89.68.22]) by smtp.tele.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45412274; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:22:08 +0200 (EET) Received: by ydin.reaktio.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ED96E20056; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:22:07 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:22:07 +0200 From: Pasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4rkk=E4inen?= To: ruijin zhou Message-ID: <20111219082207.GE12984@reaktio.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] CrossPoolMigration X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 09:46:10PM -0500, ruijin zhou wrote: > Hi, Guys, > Hello, > I recently found the following links about cross-pool migration: > > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/CrossPoolMigration > > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/CrossPoolMigrationv2 > > I am interested in the research topic of live storage migration. And, I want to build something on Xen. > > However, in recent Xen release I cannot find any code about live storage Migration. I found the above links, which have a 'to do list'. It seems that it just started. > > Does anyone know when will we have the code for storage migration? > > Thank you very much. > I added xen-api mailinglist to CC .. -- Pasi _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 19 08:22:28 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 08:22:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcYUF-0007Gr-KF; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 08:22:19 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcYUD-0007Gg-DT; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 08:22:17 +0000 X-Env-Sender: pasik@iki.fi X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324282930!6073935!1 X-Originating-IP: [192.89.123.25] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogMTkyLjg5LjEyMy4yNSA9PiAzNzcxODc=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 14633 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2011 08:22:10 -0000 Received: from smtp.tele.fi (HELO smtp.tele.fi) (192.89.123.25) by server-11.tower-174.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 19 Dec 2011 08:22:10 -0000 X-Originating-Ip: [194.89.68.22] Received: from ydin.reaktio.net (reaktio.net [194.89.68.22]) by smtp.tele.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45412274; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:22:08 +0200 (EET) Received: by ydin.reaktio.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ED96E20056; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:22:07 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:22:07 +0200 From: Pasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4rkk=E4inen?= To: ruijin zhou Message-ID: <20111219082207.GE12984@reaktio.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] CrossPoolMigration X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 09:46:10PM -0500, ruijin zhou wrote: > Hi, Guys, > Hello, > I recently found the following links about cross-pool migration: > > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/CrossPoolMigration > > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/CrossPoolMigrationv2 > > I am interested in the research topic of live storage migration. And, I want to build something on Xen. > > However, in recent Xen release I cannot find any code about live storage Migration. I found the above links, which have a 'to do list'. It seems that it just started. > > Does anyone know when will we have the code for storage migration? > > Thank you very much. > I added xen-api mailinglist to CC .. -- Pasi _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 19 09:16:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:16:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcZKn-0008Vi-EK; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:16:37 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcZKl-0008Vd-FF for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:16:35 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324286188!7984546!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21238 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2011 09:16:29 -0000 Received: from mail-ey0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-ey0-f171.google.com) (209.85.215.171) by server-12.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 19 Dec 2011 09:16:29 -0000 Received: by eaad11 with SMTP id d11so19579941eaa.30 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:16:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5dN+jBioIV2htXoHuK8HuiscXc0glKTzm9ZQ9k/6tpw=; b=VqHNK+uPR2elWRWHpc35a9+WoWMQ/eqRQF50W7hLEl8Z1W5Hw8t4+g8Xjzx74Hq0lc gMwH6RYtoMdP85bUVRtVNKbdfSJz0YlhAl7dY/hQ7blWb7IC2sO2qGn8pGjrvCdPEbEt Xj2qX7kENeyX8pvz43EoCDjx9YvoQ0iB+7KZ0= Received: by 10.205.137.144 with SMTP id io16mr1162481bkc.23.1324285770419; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:09:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.100.115] ([188.93.16.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q6sm39568934bka.6.2011.12.19.01.09.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:09:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EEEFF47.5040301@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:09:27 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111215 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: [Xen-API] [BUG?] vhd-parent missing after snapshot removal X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Good day. Found strange behavior (bug?) in xapi: it removes vhd-parent from sm-config of VDI after removing most recent snapshot. How to reproduce: VDI=`xe vdi-create ....` SN1=`xe vdi-snapshot uuid=$VDI` (perform some write operations on VDI to force creation of second base copy) SN2=`xe vdi-snapshot uuid=$VDI` xe vdi-destroy uuid=$SN2 xe vdi-list uuid=$VDI params=sm-config Expected: sm-config vhd-parent: uuid_of_corresponding_base_copy Got: sm-config contains no vhd-parent. Why this important? vhd-parent links alllows to calculate sizes of all VHD's, related to snapshot/clone tree. Without vhd-parent we need to rely on snapshort-of and snapshots fields, which are not really reliable (vdi-clone break the chain). This bug does not affects snapshot functionality, AFAIK real VDI chain is reconstructed from internal headers of VDI, but affects software using XenAPI. Thanks. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 19 09:16:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:16:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcZKn-0008Vi-EK; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:16:37 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcZKl-0008Vd-FF for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:16:35 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324286188!7984546!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21238 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2011 09:16:29 -0000 Received: from mail-ey0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-ey0-f171.google.com) (209.85.215.171) by server-12.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 19 Dec 2011 09:16:29 -0000 Received: by eaad11 with SMTP id d11so19579941eaa.30 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:16:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5dN+jBioIV2htXoHuK8HuiscXc0glKTzm9ZQ9k/6tpw=; b=VqHNK+uPR2elWRWHpc35a9+WoWMQ/eqRQF50W7hLEl8Z1W5Hw8t4+g8Xjzx74Hq0lc gMwH6RYtoMdP85bUVRtVNKbdfSJz0YlhAl7dY/hQ7blWb7IC2sO2qGn8pGjrvCdPEbEt Xj2qX7kENeyX8pvz43EoCDjx9YvoQ0iB+7KZ0= Received: by 10.205.137.144 with SMTP id io16mr1162481bkc.23.1324285770419; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:09:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.100.115] ([188.93.16.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q6sm39568934bka.6.2011.12.19.01.09.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:09:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EEEFF47.5040301@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:09:27 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111215 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: [Xen-API] [BUG?] vhd-parent missing after snapshot removal X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Good day. Found strange behavior (bug?) in xapi: it removes vhd-parent from sm-config of VDI after removing most recent snapshot. How to reproduce: VDI=`xe vdi-create ....` SN1=`xe vdi-snapshot uuid=$VDI` (perform some write operations on VDI to force creation of second base copy) SN2=`xe vdi-snapshot uuid=$VDI` xe vdi-destroy uuid=$SN2 xe vdi-list uuid=$VDI params=sm-config Expected: sm-config vhd-parent: uuid_of_corresponding_base_copy Got: sm-config contains no vhd-parent. Why this important? vhd-parent links alllows to calculate sizes of all VHD's, related to snapshot/clone tree. Without vhd-parent we need to rely on snapshort-of and snapshots fields, which are not really reliable (vdi-clone break the chain). This bug does not affects snapshot functionality, AFAIK real VDI chain is reconstructed from internal headers of VDI, but affects software using XenAPI. Thanks. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 19 11:26:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:26:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcbMT-0002zS-4o; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:26:29 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcbMR-0002zC-NL for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:26:27 +0000 X-Env-Sender: christian.fischer@easterngraphics.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324293981!7815686!1 X-Originating-IP: [195.191.216.34] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28762 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2011 11:26:21 -0000 Received: from mail.easterngraphics.com (HELO intranet.easterngraphics.com) (195.191.216.34) by server-14.tower-182.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2011 11:26:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by intranet.easterngraphics.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFC21813522C for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:26:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at easterngraphics.com Received: from intranet.easterngraphics.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (intranet.easterngraphics.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1edYOF4PViTa for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:26:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from iwan.localnet (unknown [195.191.216.126]) (Authenticated sender: fischer) by intranet.easterngraphics.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D0FEA18135094 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:26:20 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Fischer Organization: EasternGraphics GmbH To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:26:20 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.41.1-1.fc15.i686; KDE/4.6.5; i686; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201112191226.20408.christian.fischer@easterngraphics.com> Subject: [Xen-API] [XCP-1.1] pygrub solaris support, bad cmdline X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com I've hardcoded the menu.lst entries, but it seems that pygrub boots the wrong kernel. Any ideas what's going on? kernel$ /platform/i86xpv/kernel/amd64/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS module$ /platform/i86pc/amd64/boot_archive domain-builder: xc_dom_allocate: cmdline="/platform/i86xpv/kernel/unix -B zfs- bootfs=syspool/37,bootpath='/xpvd/xdf@51728:a'", features="" This is a NexentaStor installation. There's no XCP error, no console output, nothing, except pop(domU_internal_shutdown) = VM (domid 28) @releaseDomain Thanks Christian _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 19 11:26:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:26:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcbMT-0002zS-4o; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:26:29 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcbMR-0002zC-NL for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:26:27 +0000 X-Env-Sender: christian.fischer@easterngraphics.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324293981!7815686!1 X-Originating-IP: [195.191.216.34] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28762 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2011 11:26:21 -0000 Received: from mail.easterngraphics.com (HELO intranet.easterngraphics.com) (195.191.216.34) by server-14.tower-182.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2011 11:26:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by intranet.easterngraphics.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFC21813522C for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:26:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at easterngraphics.com Received: from intranet.easterngraphics.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (intranet.easterngraphics.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1edYOF4PViTa for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:26:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from iwan.localnet (unknown [195.191.216.126]) (Authenticated sender: fischer) by intranet.easterngraphics.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D0FEA18135094 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:26:20 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Fischer Organization: EasternGraphics GmbH To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:26:20 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.41.1-1.fc15.i686; KDE/4.6.5; i686; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201112191226.20408.christian.fischer@easterngraphics.com> Subject: [Xen-API] [XCP-1.1] pygrub solaris support, bad cmdline X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com I've hardcoded the menu.lst entries, but it seems that pygrub boots the wrong kernel. Any ideas what's going on? kernel$ /platform/i86xpv/kernel/amd64/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS module$ /platform/i86pc/amd64/boot_archive domain-builder: xc_dom_allocate: cmdline="/platform/i86xpv/kernel/unix -B zfs- bootfs=syspool/37,bootpath='/xpvd/xdf@51728:a'", features="" This is a NexentaStor installation. There's no XCP error, no console output, nothing, except pop(domU_internal_shutdown) = VM (domid 28) @releaseDomain Thanks Christian _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 19 13:43:34 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:43:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcdUz-0006Uf-Dz; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:43:25 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcdUx-0006UH-70 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:43:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: martinu@vshosting.cz X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324302196!6102575!1 X-Originating-IP: [78.24.8.155] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.0 required=7.0 tests=SUBJ_YOUR_OWN X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9534 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2011 13:43:16 -0000 Received: from pipa-ng.vshosting.cz (HELO pipa-ng.vshosting.cz) (78.24.8.155) by server-8.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2011 13:43:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pipa-ng.vshosting.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1363D2F0C0AA for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:43:15 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pipa-ng.vshosting.cz Received: from pipa-ng.vshosting.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pipa-ng.vshosting.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kreh5p3si7sm for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:43:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [78.24.8.73] (ts.vshosting.cz [78.24.8.73]) by pipa-ng.vshosting.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 752562F0C07D for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:43:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EEF3F6C.4080703@vshosting.cz> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:43:08 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Jan_Martin=F9?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110921 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] [XCP] Create your own logical volume lvmiscsi SR X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hello, it is possible to create custom logical volume (with lvcreate) on SR = lvmoiscsi inaccessible from XCP? Thank you. -- = S pozdravem Jan Martin=F9 VSHosting s.r.o. Telefon: 246 035 835 Email: martinu@vshosting.cz www.vshosting.cz _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 19 13:43:34 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:43:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcdUz-0006Uf-Dz; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:43:25 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcdUx-0006UH-70 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:43:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: martinu@vshosting.cz X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324302196!6102575!1 X-Originating-IP: [78.24.8.155] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.0 required=7.0 tests=SUBJ_YOUR_OWN X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9534 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2011 13:43:16 -0000 Received: from pipa-ng.vshosting.cz (HELO pipa-ng.vshosting.cz) (78.24.8.155) by server-8.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2011 13:43:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pipa-ng.vshosting.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1363D2F0C0AA for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:43:15 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pipa-ng.vshosting.cz Received: from pipa-ng.vshosting.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pipa-ng.vshosting.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kreh5p3si7sm for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:43:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [78.24.8.73] (ts.vshosting.cz [78.24.8.73]) by pipa-ng.vshosting.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 752562F0C07D for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:43:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EEF3F6C.4080703@vshosting.cz> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:43:08 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Jan_Martin=F9?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110921 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] [XCP] Create your own logical volume lvmiscsi SR X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hello, it is possible to create custom logical volume (with lvcreate) on SR = lvmoiscsi inaccessible from XCP? Thank you. -- = S pozdravem Jan Martin=F9 VSHosting s.r.o. Telefon: 246 035 835 Email: martinu@vshosting.cz www.vshosting.cz _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 00:23:30 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 00:23:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcnUH-0008Oi-6l; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 00:23:21 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcnUF-0008Oa-8B for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 00:23:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324340592!7922672!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 4165 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 00:23:13 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-3.tower-182.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 00:23:13 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C00372805E for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:23:10 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:23:04 +1000 Message-Id: <77185E5C-FF64-4DC9-8211-8B1B088B560A@ocean.net.au> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Xen-API] Kronos Build Server X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mike, Is the build server publicly accessible? I'd like to see the commit logs for a new build before I install it if possible. Also could you please tell me the URL for the Git master for the Kronos package sources? Thanks, Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 00:23:30 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 00:23:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcnUH-0008Oi-6l; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 00:23:21 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcnUF-0008Oa-8B for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 00:23:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324340592!7922672!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 4165 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 00:23:13 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-3.tower-182.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 00:23:13 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C00372805E for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:23:10 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:23:04 +1000 Message-Id: <77185E5C-FF64-4DC9-8211-8B1B088B560A@ocean.net.au> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Xen-API] Kronos Build Server X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mike, Is the build server publicly accessible? I'd like to see the commit logs for a new build before I install it if possible. Also could you please tell me the URL for the Git master for the Kronos package sources? Thanks, Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 06:05:30 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:05:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcspE-00062u-Ft; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:05:20 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcspC-00062m-VI for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:05:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324361111!6193851!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 20131 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 06:05:12 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-4.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 06:05:12 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 420152805E for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:05:08 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:05:02 +1000 Message-Id: To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com After much pain I managed to get a bonded management interface on my pool master. I then, following the advice of the XenServer 6.0 Administrator's Guide, configured the bonded interface for VM traffic before adding any pool slaves. I then cleanly installed two machines (Debian Wheezy + Open vSwitch + xcp packages from the xcp unstable repo). When I joined the new slaves to the pool the bonds were reversed bond0 was attached to the wrong network as xapi1 instead of xapi0 so I was unable to make bond0 the management interface as it has no IP. I've now tried every possible combination over the last 24 hours to get this working. None of the network related xe tools work - they all barf with exceptions. The Xencenter UI won't let me delete networks, bonds or anything else. I can't remove the broken machines from the pool. The whole things a bit of a mess. Has anyone tested bonded networking? Incidentally, in arriving at my present situation I discovered that the bridge names xenbr# and xapi# are hard-coded somewhere so it is necessary to create bridges of the same same in /etc/network/interfaces. Why a bridge is required for the management interface at all beats me. xe host-management-reconfigure never works because the interface you are switching to can't possibly have an IP yet - because what you are trying to do is migrate the IP from eth0 to bond0 (xenbr0 to xapi0 is required by xapi). It would seem as though some library behind xe is silently failing to reconfigure host networking correctly. Being fluent in about a dozen programming languages, but none of them OCaml, I have no idea where to start looking. I'd be very grateful for any assistance. Sorry if this sounds more like a whine than a plea for help - I'm frazzled after 24 hours straight beating my head against the desktop. Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 06:05:30 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:05:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcspE-00062u-Ft; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:05:20 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcspC-00062m-VI for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:05:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324361111!6193851!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 20131 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 06:05:12 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-4.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 06:05:12 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 420152805E for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:05:08 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:05:02 +1000 Message-Id: To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com After much pain I managed to get a bonded management interface on my pool master. I then, following the advice of the XenServer 6.0 Administrator's Guide, configured the bonded interface for VM traffic before adding any pool slaves. I then cleanly installed two machines (Debian Wheezy + Open vSwitch + xcp packages from the xcp unstable repo). When I joined the new slaves to the pool the bonds were reversed bond0 was attached to the wrong network as xapi1 instead of xapi0 so I was unable to make bond0 the management interface as it has no IP. I've now tried every possible combination over the last 24 hours to get this working. None of the network related xe tools work - they all barf with exceptions. The Xencenter UI won't let me delete networks, bonds or anything else. I can't remove the broken machines from the pool. The whole things a bit of a mess. Has anyone tested bonded networking? Incidentally, in arriving at my present situation I discovered that the bridge names xenbr# and xapi# are hard-coded somewhere so it is necessary to create bridges of the same same in /etc/network/interfaces. Why a bridge is required for the management interface at all beats me. xe host-management-reconfigure never works because the interface you are switching to can't possibly have an IP yet - because what you are trying to do is migrate the IP from eth0 to bond0 (xenbr0 to xapi0 is required by xapi). It would seem as though some library behind xe is silently failing to reconfigure host networking correctly. Being fluent in about a dozen programming languages, but none of them OCaml, I have no idea where to start looking. I'd be very grateful for any assistance. Sorry if this sounds more like a whine than a plea for help - I'm frazzled after 24 hours straight beating my head against the desktop. Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 06:08:11 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:08:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rcsrq-00066P-Qq; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:08:02 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rcsrp-00066H-8F for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:08:01 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324361233!49683121!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23339 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 06:07:14 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 06:07:14 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 90C152805E for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:07:57 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:07:52 +1000 Message-Id: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com It is not possible to remove a host from a pool because /etc/firstboot.d/data/ doesn't exist. In fact /etc/firstboot.d doesn't exist and creating /etc/firstboot.d/data doesn't seem to help. No idea where to start looking. Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 06:08:11 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:08:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rcsrq-00066P-Qq; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:08:02 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rcsrp-00066H-8F for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:08:01 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324361233!49683121!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23339 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 06:07:14 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-3.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 06:07:14 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 90C152805E for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:07:57 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:07:52 +1000 Message-Id: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com It is not possible to remove a host from a pool because /etc/firstboot.d/data/ doesn't exist. In fact /etc/firstboot.d doesn't exist and creating /etc/firstboot.d/data doesn't seem to help. No idea where to start looking. Dave _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 06:28:51 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:28:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RctBq-0006H1-Vi; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:28:42 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RctBp-0006Ge-A7 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:28:41 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324362513!9441612!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 32645 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 06:28:34 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-2.tower-216.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 06:28:34 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 58E4E2805E for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:28:32 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:28:26 +1000 Message-Id: References: To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Update: /usr/lib/xcp/lib/interface-reconfigure is a no-op. And the reason it fails silently is (from /usr/lib/xcp/bin/xe-reset-networking): os.system(interface_reconfigure + if_args + ' >/dev/null 2>/dev/null') On 20/12/2011, at 4:05 PM, Dave Whitla wrote: > After much pain I managed to get a bonded management interface on my pool master. > I then, following the advice of the XenServer 6.0 Administrator's Guide, configured the bonded interface for VM traffic before adding any pool slaves. > I then cleanly installed two machines (Debian Wheezy + Open vSwitch + xcp packages from the xcp unstable repo). > When I joined the new slaves to the pool the bonds were reversed bond0 was attached to the wrong network as xapi1 instead of xapi0 so I was unable to make bond0 the management interface as it has no IP. > I've now tried every possible combination over the last 24 hours to get this working. > > None of the network related xe tools work - they all barf with exceptions. > The Xencenter UI won't let me delete networks, bonds or anything else. > I can't remove the broken machines from the pool. > The whole things a bit of a mess. > > Has anyone tested bonded networking? > Incidentally, in arriving at my present situation I discovered that the bridge names xenbr# and xapi# are hard-coded somewhere so it is necessary to create bridges of the same same in /etc/network/interfaces. > Why a bridge is required for the management interface at all beats me. > xe host-management-reconfigure never works because the interface you are switching to can't possibly have an IP yet - because what you are trying to do is migrate the IP from eth0 to bond0 (xenbr0 to xapi0 is required by xapi). > It would seem as though some library behind xe is silently failing to reconfigure host networking correctly. > Being fluent in about a dozen programming languages, but none of them OCaml, I have no idea where to start looking. > > I'd be very grateful for any assistance. > Sorry if this sounds more like a whine than a plea for help - I'm frazzled after 24 hours straight beating my head against the desktop. > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 06:28:51 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:28:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RctBq-0006H1-Vi; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:28:42 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RctBp-0006Ge-A7 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:28:41 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324362513!9441612!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 32645 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 06:28:34 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-2.tower-216.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 06:28:34 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 58E4E2805E for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:28:32 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:28:26 +1000 Message-Id: References: To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Update: /usr/lib/xcp/lib/interface-reconfigure is a no-op. And the reason it fails silently is (from /usr/lib/xcp/bin/xe-reset-networking): os.system(interface_reconfigure + if_args + ' >/dev/null 2>/dev/null') On 20/12/2011, at 4:05 PM, Dave Whitla wrote: > After much pain I managed to get a bonded management interface on my pool master. > I then, following the advice of the XenServer 6.0 Administrator's Guide, configured the bonded interface for VM traffic before adding any pool slaves. > I then cleanly installed two machines (Debian Wheezy + Open vSwitch + xcp packages from the xcp unstable repo). > When I joined the new slaves to the pool the bonds were reversed bond0 was attached to the wrong network as xapi1 instead of xapi0 so I was unable to make bond0 the management interface as it has no IP. > I've now tried every possible combination over the last 24 hours to get this working. > > None of the network related xe tools work - they all barf with exceptions. > The Xencenter UI won't let me delete networks, bonds or anything else. > I can't remove the broken machines from the pool. > The whole things a bit of a mess. > > Has anyone tested bonded networking? > Incidentally, in arriving at my present situation I discovered that the bridge names xenbr# and xapi# are hard-coded somewhere so it is necessary to create bridges of the same same in /etc/network/interfaces. > Why a bridge is required for the management interface at all beats me. > xe host-management-reconfigure never works because the interface you are switching to can't possibly have an IP yet - because what you are trying to do is migrate the IP from eth0 to bond0 (xenbr0 to xapi0 is required by xapi). > It would seem as though some library behind xe is silently failing to reconfigure host networking correctly. > Being fluent in about a dozen programming languages, but none of them OCaml, I have no idea where to start looking. > > I'd be very grateful for any assistance. > Sorry if this sounds more like a whine than a plea for help - I'm frazzled after 24 hours straight beating my head against the desktop. > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 08:19:56 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 08:19:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcuvL-0007Su-Og; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 08:19:47 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcuvK-0007Sm-Fk for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 08:19:46 +0000 X-Env-Sender: christian.fischer@easterngraphics.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324369176!7972762!1 X-Originating-IP: [195.191.216.34] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 14165 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 08:19:36 -0000 Received: from mail.easterngraphics.com (HELO intranet.easterngraphics.com) (195.191.216.34) by server-16.tower-216.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 08:19:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by intranet.easterngraphics.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7F31813582A for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 08:19:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at easterngraphics.com Received: from intranet.easterngraphics.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (intranet.easterngraphics.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i4aXlNmAmjqP for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:19:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from iwan.localnet (unknown [195.191.216.126]) (Authenticated sender: fischer) by intranet.easterngraphics.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6223518135823 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:19:35 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Fischer Organization: EasternGraphics GmbH To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:19:34 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.41.1-1.fc15.i686; KDE/4.6.5; i686; ; ) References: <201112191226.20408.christian.fischer@easterngraphics.com> In-Reply-To: <201112191226.20408.christian.fischer@easterngraphics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201112200919.34857.christian.fischer@easterngraphics.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [XCP-1.1] pygrub solaris support, bad cmdline X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Forget the question, I've seen the code. On Monday 19 December 2011 12:26:20 Christian Fischer wrote: > I've hardcoded the menu.lst entries, but it seems that pygrub boots the > wrong kernel. Any ideas what's going on? > > kernel$ /platform/i86xpv/kernel/amd64/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS > module$ /platform/i86pc/amd64/boot_archive > > domain-builder: xc_dom_allocate: cmdline="/platform/i86xpv/kernel/unix -B > zfs- bootfs=syspool/37,bootpath='/xpvd/xdf@51728:a'", features="" > > This is a NexentaStor installation. > There's no XCP error, no console output, nothing, except > pop(domU_internal_shutdown) = VM (domid 28) @releaseDomain > > Thanks > Christian > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 08:19:56 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 08:19:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcuvL-0007Su-Og; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 08:19:47 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RcuvK-0007Sm-Fk for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 08:19:46 +0000 X-Env-Sender: christian.fischer@easterngraphics.com X-Msg-Ref: server-16.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324369176!7972762!1 X-Originating-IP: [195.191.216.34] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 14165 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 08:19:36 -0000 Received: from mail.easterngraphics.com (HELO intranet.easterngraphics.com) (195.191.216.34) by server-16.tower-216.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 08:19:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by intranet.easterngraphics.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7F31813582A for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 08:19:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at easterngraphics.com Received: from intranet.easterngraphics.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (intranet.easterngraphics.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i4aXlNmAmjqP for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:19:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from iwan.localnet (unknown [195.191.216.126]) (Authenticated sender: fischer) by intranet.easterngraphics.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6223518135823 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:19:35 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Fischer Organization: EasternGraphics GmbH To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:19:34 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.41.1-1.fc15.i686; KDE/4.6.5; i686; ; ) References: <201112191226.20408.christian.fischer@easterngraphics.com> In-Reply-To: <201112191226.20408.christian.fischer@easterngraphics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201112200919.34857.christian.fischer@easterngraphics.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [XCP-1.1] pygrub solaris support, bad cmdline X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Forget the question, I've seen the code. On Monday 19 December 2011 12:26:20 Christian Fischer wrote: > I've hardcoded the menu.lst entries, but it seems that pygrub boots the > wrong kernel. Any ideas what's going on? > > kernel$ /platform/i86xpv/kernel/amd64/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS > module$ /platform/i86pc/amd64/boot_archive > > domain-builder: xc_dom_allocate: cmdline="/platform/i86xpv/kernel/unix -B > zfs- bootfs=syspool/37,bootpath='/xpvd/xdf@51728:a'", features="" > > This is a NexentaStor installation. > There's no XCP error, no console output, nothing, except > pop(domU_internal_shutdown) = VM (domid 28) @releaseDomain > > Thanks > Christian > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 14:06:08 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:06:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd0KL-0006mh-1I; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:05:57 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd0KJ-0006mO-JP for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:05:55 +0000 X-Env-Sender: medhavini1991@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324389948!6086169!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.5 required=7.0 tests=HTML_00_10,HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12297 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 14:05:49 -0000 Received: from mail-ey0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-ey0-f171.google.com) (209.85.215.171) by server-15.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 14:05:49 -0000 Received: by eaad11 with SMTP id d11so22601988eaa.30 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:05:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=f7uem79HVI20dpbaBWt9XFJQTTAefq8dpdnmuMW05sE=; b=UA1PelxkG3c5VvKH9rT13ul1SkA6cnkbdaC9UOz5OXEDw+4qVkQQ4KymI6hOdS8R8X eY+RpT5ncsOQolcvZCVcgD1iEYumjLjxpqTnpSP1M5ah/+T6pmgjiazwcjZW3pFJZ+/w sMPObqSd6in7dg9zP15DzTF0wxy9v5nO+x24o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.14.208 with SMTP id h16mr575074bka.2.1324389948485; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:05:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.64.68 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:05:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:35:48 +0530 Message-ID: From: Medhavini Buchade To: xen-api Subject: [Xen-API] Query regarding XCP installation. X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3767911351477337166==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============3767911351477337166== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255560626c70c604b4869066 --0003255560626c70c604b4869066 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello Everyone, I am doing a graduation project - "Auto provisioning portal" using XCP(1.0). I have some doubt regarding the same. I have a laptop with required HW configurations and Ubuntu(10.10) installed on it. I thee made may laptop boot from cd that had Base iso package to install XCP. Now it says that it has successfully installed XCP. I can also see the cloud images and all. But I can no more access my Ubuntu. 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I am doing a graduation project - "Auto p= rovisioning portal" using XCP(1.0). I have some doubt regarding the sa= me. I have a laptop with required HW configurations and Ubuntu(10.10) insta= lled on it. I thee made may laptop boot from cd that had Base iso package t= o install XCP. Now it says that it has successfully installed XCP. I can al= so see the cloud images and all. But I can no more access my Ubuntu. Is thi= s normal or was there any problem in installation or while those device dri= vers were getting loaded. As I am doing such a project for first time I hav= e these doubts and I am stuck.

Thank you.
--0003255560626c70c604b4869066-- --===============3767911351477337166== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============3767911351477337166==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 14:06:08 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:06:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd0KL-0006mh-1I; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:05:57 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd0KJ-0006mO-JP for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:05:55 +0000 X-Env-Sender: medhavini1991@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324389948!6086169!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.5 required=7.0 tests=HTML_00_10,HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12297 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 14:05:49 -0000 Received: from mail-ey0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-ey0-f171.google.com) (209.85.215.171) by server-15.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 14:05:49 -0000 Received: by eaad11 with SMTP id d11so22601988eaa.30 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:05:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=f7uem79HVI20dpbaBWt9XFJQTTAefq8dpdnmuMW05sE=; b=UA1PelxkG3c5VvKH9rT13ul1SkA6cnkbdaC9UOz5OXEDw+4qVkQQ4KymI6hOdS8R8X eY+RpT5ncsOQolcvZCVcgD1iEYumjLjxpqTnpSP1M5ah/+T6pmgjiazwcjZW3pFJZ+/w sMPObqSd6in7dg9zP15DzTF0wxy9v5nO+x24o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.14.208 with SMTP id h16mr575074bka.2.1324389948485; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:05:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.64.68 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:05:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:35:48 +0530 Message-ID: From: Medhavini Buchade To: xen-api Subject: [Xen-API] Query regarding XCP installation. X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3767911351477337166==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============3767911351477337166== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255560626c70c604b4869066 --0003255560626c70c604b4869066 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello Everyone, I am doing a graduation project - "Auto provisioning portal" using XCP(1.0). I have some doubt regarding the same. I have a laptop with required HW configurations and Ubuntu(10.10) installed on it. I thee made may laptop boot from cd that had Base iso package to install XCP. Now it says that it has successfully installed XCP. I can also see the cloud images and all. But I can no more access my Ubuntu. Is this normal or was there any problem in installation or while those device drivers were getting loaded. As I am doing such a project for first time I have these doubts and I am stuck. Thank you. --0003255560626c70c604b4869066 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Everyone,

I am doing a graduation project - "Auto p= rovisioning portal" using XCP(1.0). I have some doubt regarding the sa= me. I have a laptop with required HW configurations and Ubuntu(10.10) insta= lled on it. I thee made may laptop boot from cd that had Base iso package t= o install XCP. Now it says that it has successfully installed XCP. I can al= so see the cloud images and all. But I can no more access my Ubuntu. Is thi= s normal or was there any problem in installation or while those device dri= vers were getting loaded. As I am doing such a project for first time I hav= e these doubts and I am stuck.

Thank you.
--0003255560626c70c604b4869066-- --===============3767911351477337166== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============3767911351477337166==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 15:40:10 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:40:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd1nM-0000Ji-DU; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:40:00 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd1nL-0000JM-N1 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:39:59 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Jonathan.Ludlam@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324395593!8121061!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NzQwMQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6765 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 15:39:53 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-11.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 15:39:53 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,382,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9584876" Received: from lonpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 15:39:16 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) with mapi; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:39:16 +0000 From: Jonathan Ludlam To: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:39:14 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] Kronos Build Server Thread-Index: Acy/LYh2YtbKg4pPRg6S97z4+Cb7Vw== Message-ID: <302CF2F5-75CD-432E-88CA-2CCC34F3651C@eu.citrix.com> References: <77185E5C-FF64-4DC9-8211-8B1B088B560A@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <77185E5C-FF64-4DC9-8211-8B1B088B560A@ocean.net.au> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos Build Server X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com No it's not publicly available, although all of the build scripts are. The 'build from source' instructions haven't migrated from the old xen wiki to the new, but I'll fix that up now. The discussions about kronos are mostly happening on the IRC channel #xen-api on freenode - I would encourage you to log on there to chat about this! Jon On 20 Dec 2011, at 00:23, Dave Whitla wrote: > Mike, > > Is the build server publicly accessible? I'd like to see the commit logs for a new build before I install it if possible. > Also could you please tell me the URL for the Git master for the Kronos package sources? > > Thanks, > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 15:40:10 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:40:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd1nM-0000Ji-DU; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:40:00 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd1nL-0000JM-N1 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:39:59 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Jonathan.Ludlam@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324395593!8121061!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NzQwMQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6765 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 15:39:53 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-11.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 15:39:53 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,382,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9584876" Received: from lonpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 15:39:16 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) with mapi; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:39:16 +0000 From: Jonathan Ludlam To: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:39:14 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] Kronos Build Server Thread-Index: Acy/LYh2YtbKg4pPRg6S97z4+Cb7Vw== Message-ID: <302CF2F5-75CD-432E-88CA-2CCC34F3651C@eu.citrix.com> References: <77185E5C-FF64-4DC9-8211-8B1B088B560A@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <77185E5C-FF64-4DC9-8211-8B1B088B560A@ocean.net.au> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos Build Server X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com No it's not publicly available, although all of the build scripts are. The 'build from source' instructions haven't migrated from the old xen wiki to the new, but I'll fix that up now. The discussions about kronos are mostly happening on the IRC channel #xen-api on freenode - I would encourage you to log on there to chat about this! Jon On 20 Dec 2011, at 00:23, Dave Whitla wrote: > Mike, > > Is the build server publicly accessible? I'd like to see the commit logs for a new build before I install it if possible. > Also could you please tell me the URL for the Git master for the Kronos package sources? > > Thanks, > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 15:50:22 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:50:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd1xJ-0000ch-7Y; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:50:17 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd1xH-0000bw-Sr for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:50:16 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Jonathan.Ludlam@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324396208!8011456!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NzQwMQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 22698 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 15:50:09 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-9.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 15:50:09 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,382,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9585294" Received: from lonpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 15:50:08 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) with mapi; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:50:08 +0000 From: Jonathan Ludlam To: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:50:05 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces Thread-Index: Acy/LwyJvRxB/zlXS6uA44PX9wOEWQ== Message-ID: <8FA7B6F2-4F64-4471-8CDA-CE85CD878475@eu.citrix.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com The problem is that the network scripts that are used in XCP are designed to work with Centos style ifcfg scripts, not /etc/network/interfaces. The script /usr/lib/xcp/lib/interface-reconfigure was no-opified in order to prevent it screwing up anything. Rob Hoes is working on a new platform independent network control daemon that will replace this mechanism for XCP/XenServer - we'll provide an option to use it with Debian/Ubuntu too. Unfortunately it's not quite ready to go yet, but he's feverishly working on it, ETA before the end of the year I hope! You can check his progress here: https://github.com/robhoes/xen-api/tree/net Jon On 20 Dec 2011, at 06:28, Dave Whitla wrote: > Update: > > /usr/lib/xcp/lib/interface-reconfigure is a no-op. > And the reason it fails silently is (from /usr/lib/xcp/bin/xe-reset-networking): > > os.system(interface_reconfigure + if_args + ' >/dev/null 2>/dev/null') > > > On 20/12/2011, at 4:05 PM, Dave Whitla wrote: > >> After much pain I managed to get a bonded management interface on my pool master. >> I then, following the advice of the XenServer 6.0 Administrator's Guide, configured the bonded interface for VM traffic before adding any pool slaves. >> I then cleanly installed two machines (Debian Wheezy + Open vSwitch + xcp packages from the xcp unstable repo). >> When I joined the new slaves to the pool the bonds were reversed bond0 was attached to the wrong network as xapi1 instead of xapi0 so I was unable to make bond0 the management interface as it has no IP. >> I've now tried every possible combination over the last 24 hours to get this working. >> >> None of the network related xe tools work - they all barf with exceptions. >> The Xencenter UI won't let me delete networks, bonds or anything else. >> I can't remove the broken machines from the pool. >> The whole things a bit of a mess. >> >> Has anyone tested bonded networking? >> Incidentally, in arriving at my present situation I discovered that the bridge names xenbr# and xapi# are hard-coded somewhere so it is necessary to create bridges of the same same in /etc/network/interfaces. >> Why a bridge is required for the management interface at all beats me. >> xe host-management-reconfigure never works because the interface you are switching to can't possibly have an IP yet - because what you are trying to do is migrate the IP from eth0 to bond0 (xenbr0 to xapi0 is required by xapi). >> It would seem as though some library behind xe is silently failing to reconfigure host networking correctly. >> Being fluent in about a dozen programming languages, but none of them OCaml, I have no idea where to start looking. >> >> I'd be very grateful for any assistance. >> Sorry if this sounds more like a whine than a plea for help - I'm frazzled after 24 hours straight beating my head against the desktop. >> >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 15:50:22 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:50:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd1xJ-0000ch-7Y; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:50:17 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd1xH-0000bw-Sr for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:50:16 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Jonathan.Ludlam@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324396208!8011456!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NzQwMQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 22698 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 15:50:09 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-9.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 15:50:09 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,382,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9585294" Received: from lonpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 15:50:08 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.30.203.162]) with mapi; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:50:08 +0000 From: Jonathan Ludlam To: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:50:05 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces Thread-Index: Acy/LwyJvRxB/zlXS6uA44PX9wOEWQ== Message-ID: <8FA7B6F2-4F64-4471-8CDA-CE85CD878475@eu.citrix.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com The problem is that the network scripts that are used in XCP are designed to work with Centos style ifcfg scripts, not /etc/network/interfaces. The script /usr/lib/xcp/lib/interface-reconfigure was no-opified in order to prevent it screwing up anything. Rob Hoes is working on a new platform independent network control daemon that will replace this mechanism for XCP/XenServer - we'll provide an option to use it with Debian/Ubuntu too. Unfortunately it's not quite ready to go yet, but he's feverishly working on it, ETA before the end of the year I hope! You can check his progress here: https://github.com/robhoes/xen-api/tree/net Jon On 20 Dec 2011, at 06:28, Dave Whitla wrote: > Update: > > /usr/lib/xcp/lib/interface-reconfigure is a no-op. > And the reason it fails silently is (from /usr/lib/xcp/bin/xe-reset-networking): > > os.system(interface_reconfigure + if_args + ' >/dev/null 2>/dev/null') > > > On 20/12/2011, at 4:05 PM, Dave Whitla wrote: > >> After much pain I managed to get a bonded management interface on my pool master. >> I then, following the advice of the XenServer 6.0 Administrator's Guide, configured the bonded interface for VM traffic before adding any pool slaves. >> I then cleanly installed two machines (Debian Wheezy + Open vSwitch + xcp packages from the xcp unstable repo). >> When I joined the new slaves to the pool the bonds were reversed bond0 was attached to the wrong network as xapi1 instead of xapi0 so I was unable to make bond0 the management interface as it has no IP. >> I've now tried every possible combination over the last 24 hours to get this working. >> >> None of the network related xe tools work - they all barf with exceptions. >> The Xencenter UI won't let me delete networks, bonds or anything else. >> I can't remove the broken machines from the pool. >> The whole things a bit of a mess. >> >> Has anyone tested bonded networking? >> Incidentally, in arriving at my present situation I discovered that the bridge names xenbr# and xapi# are hard-coded somewhere so it is necessary to create bridges of the same same in /etc/network/interfaces. >> Why a bridge is required for the management interface at all beats me. >> xe host-management-reconfigure never works because the interface you are switching to can't possibly have an IP yet - because what you are trying to do is migrate the IP from eth0 to bond0 (xenbr0 to xapi0 is required by xapi). >> It would seem as though some library behind xe is silently failing to reconfigure host networking correctly. >> Being fluent in about a dozen programming languages, but none of them OCaml, I have no idea where to start looking. >> >> I'd be very grateful for any assistance. >> Sorry if this sounds more like a whine than a plea for help - I'm frazzled after 24 hours straight beating my head against the desktop. >> >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 19:40:19 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:40:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd5Xk-0007Rc-Sk; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:40:08 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd5Xj-0007RU-Ex; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:40:07 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324409950!58086281!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjQxOTA=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 30429 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 19:39:12 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 19:39:12 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,383,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="174907119" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 14:40:01 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:40:01 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF0E48E.6010900@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:39:58 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pasi_K=E4rkk=E4inen?= References: <20111219082207.GE12984@reaktio.net> In-Reply-To: <20111219082207.GE12984@reaktio.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , ruijin zhou , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] CrossPoolMigration X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 19/12/11 08:22, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen wrote: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 09:46:10PM -0500, ruijin zhou wrote: >> Hi, Guys, >> > = > Hello, > = >> I recently found the following links about cross-pool migration: >> >> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/CrossPoolMigration >> >> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/CrossPoolMigrationv2 >> >> I am interested in the research topic of live storage migration. And, I = want to build something on Xen. = >> >> However, in recent Xen release I cannot find any code about live storage= Migration. I found the above links, which have a 'to do list'. It seems th= at it just started. >> >> Does anyone know when will we have the code for storage migration? >> >> Thank you very much. >> > = > I added xen-api mailinglist to CC .. > = Thanks Pasi. Hi Ruijin, Storage motion is something that we are prototyping for XCP/XenServer. It will not be a part of the Xen hypervisor. We'll probably start more work on the prototype in January, and we'll post details of our implementation plan to this list. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 19:40:19 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:40:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd5Xk-0007Rc-Sk; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:40:08 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd5Xj-0007RU-Ex; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:40:07 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324409950!58086281!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjQxOTA=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 30429 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 19:39:12 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-2.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 19:39:12 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,383,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="174907119" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 14:40:01 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:40:01 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF0E48E.6010900@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:39:58 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pasi_K=E4rkk=E4inen?= References: <20111219082207.GE12984@reaktio.net> In-Reply-To: <20111219082207.GE12984@reaktio.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , ruijin zhou , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] CrossPoolMigration X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 19/12/11 08:22, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen wrote: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 09:46:10PM -0500, ruijin zhou wrote: >> Hi, Guys, >> > = > Hello, > = >> I recently found the following links about cross-pool migration: >> >> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/CrossPoolMigration >> >> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/CrossPoolMigrationv2 >> >> I am interested in the research topic of live storage migration. And, I = want to build something on Xen. = >> >> However, in recent Xen release I cannot find any code about live storage= Migration. I found the above links, which have a 'to do list'. It seems th= at it just started. >> >> Does anyone know when will we have the code for storage migration? >> >> Thank you very much. >> > = > I added xen-api mailinglist to CC .. > = Thanks Pasi. Hi Ruijin, Storage motion is something that we are prototyping for XCP/XenServer. It will not be a part of the Xen hypervisor. We'll probably start more work on the prototype in January, and we'll post details of our implementation plan to this list. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 19:44:54 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:44:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd5cF-0007bz-NV; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:44:47 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd5cD-0007bq-U6 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:44:46 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324410278!8059405!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjQxOTA=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16527 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 19:44:39 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-3.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 19:44:39 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,383,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="174907961" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 14:44:37 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:44:37 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF0E5A4.4020000@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:44:36 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Medhavini Buchade References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: xen-api Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Query regarding XCP installation. X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 20/12/11 14:05, Medhavini Buchade wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I am doing a graduation project - "Auto provisioning portal" using > XCP(1.0). I have some doubt regarding the same. I have a laptop with > required HW configurations and Ubuntu(10.10) installed on it. I thee > made may laptop boot from cd that had Base iso package to install XCP. > Now it says that it has successfully installed XCP. I can also see the > cloud images and all. But I can no more access my Ubuntu. Is this normal > or was there any problem in installation or while those device drivers > were getting loaded. As I am doing such a project for first time I have > these doubts and I am stuck. > > Thank you. Hi Medhavini, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but here it is. XCP 1.0 is a full operating system distribution. When you install XCP, it rewrites your partitions and installs itself over whatever was on your disk. I really hope you had back ups of your data, because I don't think you'll be able to recover your Ubuntu system. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 19:44:54 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:44:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd5cF-0007bz-NV; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:44:47 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd5cD-0007bq-U6 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:44:46 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324410278!8059405!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjQxOTA=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16527 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 19:44:39 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-3.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 19:44:39 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,383,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="174907961" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 14:44:37 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:44:37 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF0E5A4.4020000@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:44:36 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Medhavini Buchade References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: xen-api Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Query regarding XCP installation. X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 20/12/11 14:05, Medhavini Buchade wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I am doing a graduation project - "Auto provisioning portal" using > XCP(1.0). I have some doubt regarding the same. I have a laptop with > required HW configurations and Ubuntu(10.10) installed on it. I thee > made may laptop boot from cd that had Base iso package to install XCP. > Now it says that it has successfully installed XCP. I can also see the > cloud images and all. But I can no more access my Ubuntu. Is this normal > or was there any problem in installation or while those device drivers > were getting loaded. As I am doing such a project for first time I have > these doubts and I am stuck. > > Thank you. Hi Medhavini, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but here it is. XCP 1.0 is a full operating system distribution. When you install XCP, it rewrites your partitions and installs itself over whatever was on your disk. I really hope you had back ups of your data, because I don't think you'll be able to recover your Ubuntu system. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 19:51:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:51:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd5iG-0007ly-Ld; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:51:00 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd5iG-0007lb-5K for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:51:00 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324410652!6328095!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMDk1NDk=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 8177 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 19:50:54 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-5.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 19:50:54 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,384,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="20160614" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 14:50:52 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:50:52 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:50:50 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Whitla References: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 20/12/11 06:07, Dave Whitla wrote: > It is not possible to remove a host from a pool because /etc/firstboot.d/data/ doesn't exist. > In fact /etc/firstboot.d doesn't exist and creating /etc/firstboot.d/data doesn't seem to help. > No idea where to start looking. > Thanks, Dave. Created a bug on Launchpad. https://bugs.launchpad.net/xcp/+bug/907045 _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 19:51:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:51:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd5iG-0007ly-Ld; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:51:00 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd5iG-0007lb-5K for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:51:00 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324410652!6328095!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMDk1NDk=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 8177 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 19:50:54 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-5.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 19:50:54 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,384,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="20160614" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 14:50:52 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:50:52 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:50:50 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Whitla References: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 20/12/11 06:07, Dave Whitla wrote: > It is not possible to remove a host from a pool because /etc/firstboot.d/data/ doesn't exist. > In fact /etc/firstboot.d doesn't exist and creating /etc/firstboot.d/data doesn't seem to help. > No idea where to start looking. > Thanks, Dave. Created a bug on Launchpad. https://bugs.launchpad.net/xcp/+bug/907045 _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 21:55:43 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:55:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd7eo-0000t8-5I; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:55:34 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd7em-0000t3-2G for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:55:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: outbackdingo@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324418124!8080681!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.8 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: 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Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:55:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: Outback Dingo To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=f46d043086a2d5566304b48d1f80 Subject: [Xen-API] KRONOS - LVM BACKED XFS SR - Working X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --f46d043086a2d5566304b48d1f80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Attached you will find XFSSR.py simply place it in /usr/lib/xcp/sm and create a symlink to XFSSR install lvm2 / xfstools "apt-get install lvm2 xfstools" create a lvm volumn and restart xapi 'service xcp-xapi restart' then SR=`xe sr-create type=xfs device-config:device=/dev/mapper/test-builder name-label=xfs` change /dev/mapper/test-builder to your lvm device to match your system after its done, youll be 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xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --f46d043086a2d5566304b48d1f80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Attached you will find XFSSR.py simply place it in /usr/lib/xcp/sm and create a symlink to XFSSR install lvm2 / xfstools "apt-get install lvm2 xfstools" create a lvm volumn and restart xapi 'service xcp-xapi restart' then SR=`xe sr-create type=xfs device-config:device=/dev/mapper/test-builder name-label=xfs` change /dev/mapper/test-builder to your lvm device to match your system after its done, youll be able to use the XFS LVM filesystem as the default SR Enjoy PS: Someone commit this :) --f46d043086a2d5566304b48d1f80 Content-Type: text/x-python; charset=US-ASCII; name="XFSSR.py" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="XFSSR.py" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: f_gwfgbn4x0 IyEvdXNyL2Jpbi9lbnYgcHl0aG9uCiMgQ29weXJpZ2h0IChDKSAyMDA2LTIwMDcgWGVuU291cmNl IEx0ZC4KIyBDb3B5cmlnaHQgKEMpIDIwMDgtMjAwOSBDaXRyaXggTHRkLgojCiMgVGhpcyBwcm9n 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7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --f46d043086a2d5566304b48d1f80-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 22:39:12 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:39:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8Ku-00016d-J5; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:39:04 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8Kt-00016Y-AR for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:39:03 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1324420735!1551947!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.5 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26202 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 22:38:56 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 22:38:56 -0000 Received: from [172.20.10.2] (unknown [120.155.187.107]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 59D962805E; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:38:52 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: <8FA7B6F2-4F64-4471-8CDA-CE85CD878475@eu.citrix.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:38:45 +1000 Message-Id: <1B6DB17D-CB88-416E-80A4-4CE77CDCA6A3@ocean.net.au> References: <8FA7B6F2-4F64-4471-8CDA-CE85CD878475@eu.citrix.com> To: Jonathan Ludlam X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen 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I was thinking about doing it myself. I'll take a look at what Rob has done so far. My only concern is that it will likely make assumptions about SYSV init being the principal run control system and that it's OK to take interfaces down. I prefer my Pacemaker cluster solution (which I have invested a lot of time in) to XCP's reinvention of all the wheels. In this scenario Pacemaker will detect networks going down as a system failure and will fence the host unless I'm provided a way to integrate the two. So a robust solution really needs to be modular and pluggable if you want to support simply adding xapi to existing platforms. Incidentally I've noticed that when the service names were changed to be prefixed with xcp- none of the supporting libraries of scripts were updated. Is there some way we can get this stuff out in he open where I can check out and iteratively fix-build-deploy-test. I'm really under the pump to get this stuff working in our own deployment and I don't have time to sit around and wait for other people to fix stuff which I can do myself. If you can't check out the source and fix bugs then it's not really open source. Dave On 21/12/2011, at 1:50 AM, Jonathan Ludlam wrote: > The problem is that the network scripts that are used in XCP are designed to work with Centos style ifcfg scripts, not /etc/network/interfaces. The script /usr/lib/xcp/lib/interface-reconfigure was no-opified in order to prevent it screwing up anything. > > Rob Hoes is working on a new platform independent network control daemon that will replace this mechanism for XCP/XenServer - we'll provide an option to use it with Debian/Ubuntu too. Unfortunately it's not quite ready to go yet, but he's feverishly working on it, ETA before the end of the year I hope! > > You can check his progress here: https://github.com/robhoes/xen-api/tree/net > > Jon > > On 20 Dec 2011, at 06:28, Dave Whitla wrote: > >> Update: >> >> /usr/lib/xcp/lib/interface-reconfigure is a no-op. >> And the reason it fails silently is (from /usr/lib/xcp/bin/xe-reset-networking): >> >> os.system(interface_reconfigure + if_args + ' >/dev/null 2>/dev/null') >> >> >> On 20/12/2011, at 4:05 PM, Dave Whitla wrote: >> >>> After much pain I managed to get a bonded management interface on my pool master. >>> I then, following the advice of the XenServer 6.0 Administrator's Guide, configured the bonded interface for VM traffic before adding any pool slaves. >>> I then cleanly installed two machines (Debian Wheezy + Open vSwitch + xcp packages from the xcp unstable repo). >>> When I joined the new slaves to the pool the bonds were reversed bond0 was attached to the wrong network as xapi1 instead of xapi0 so I was unable to make bond0 the management interface as it has no IP. >>> I've now tried every possible combination over the last 24 hours to get this working. >>> >>> None of the network related xe tools work - they all barf with exceptions. >>> The Xencenter UI won't let me delete networks, bonds or anything else. >>> I can't remove the broken machines from the pool. >>> The whole things a bit of a mess. >>> >>> Has anyone tested bonded networking? >>> Incidentally, in arriving at my present situation I discovered that the bridge names xenbr# and xapi# are hard-coded somewhere so it is necessary to create bridges of the same same in /etc/network/interfaces. >>> Why a bridge is required for the management interface at all beats me. >>> xe host-management-reconfigure never works because the interface you are switching to can't possibly have an IP yet - because what you are trying to do is migrate the IP from eth0 to bond0 (xenbr0 to xapi0 is required by xapi). >>> It would seem as though some library behind xe is silently failing to reconfigure host networking correctly. >>> Being fluent in about a dozen programming languages, but none of them OCaml, I have no idea where to start looking. >>> >>> I'd be very grateful for any assistance. >>> Sorry if this sounds more like a whine than a plea for help - I'm frazzled after 24 hours straight beating my head against the desktop. >>> >>> Dave >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xen-api mailing list >>> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >>> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 22:39:12 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:39:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8Ku-00016d-J5; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:39:04 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8Kt-00016Y-AR for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:39:03 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1324420735!1551947!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.5 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26202 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 22:38:56 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-5.tower-21.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 22:38:56 -0000 Received: from [172.20.10.2] (unknown [120.155.187.107]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 59D962805E; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:38:52 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: <8FA7B6F2-4F64-4471-8CDA-CE85CD878475@eu.citrix.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:38:45 +1000 Message-Id: <1B6DB17D-CB88-416E-80A4-4CE77CDCA6A3@ocean.net.au> References: <8FA7B6F2-4F64-4471-8CDA-CE85CD878475@eu.citrix.com> To: Jonathan Ludlam X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thanks Jon. I was thinking about doing it myself. I'll take a look at what Rob has done so far. My only concern is that it will likely make assumptions about SYSV init being the principal run control system and that it's OK to take interfaces down. I prefer my Pacemaker cluster solution (which I have invested a lot of time in) to XCP's reinvention of all the wheels. In this scenario Pacemaker will detect networks going down as a system failure and will fence the host unless I'm provided a way to integrate the two. So a robust solution really needs to be modular and pluggable if you want to support simply adding xapi to existing platforms. Incidentally I've noticed that when the service names were changed to be prefixed with xcp- none of the supporting libraries of scripts were updated. Is there some way we can get this stuff out in he open where I can check out and iteratively fix-build-deploy-test. I'm really under the pump to get this stuff working in our own deployment and I don't have time to sit around and wait for other people to fix stuff which I can do myself. If you can't check out the source and fix bugs then it's not really open source. Dave On 21/12/2011, at 1:50 AM, Jonathan Ludlam wrote: > The problem is that the network scripts that are used in XCP are designed to work with Centos style ifcfg scripts, not /etc/network/interfaces. The script /usr/lib/xcp/lib/interface-reconfigure was no-opified in order to prevent it screwing up anything. > > Rob Hoes is working on a new platform independent network control daemon that will replace this mechanism for XCP/XenServer - we'll provide an option to use it with Debian/Ubuntu too. Unfortunately it's not quite ready to go yet, but he's feverishly working on it, ETA before the end of the year I hope! > > You can check his progress here: https://github.com/robhoes/xen-api/tree/net > > Jon > > On 20 Dec 2011, at 06:28, Dave Whitla wrote: > >> Update: >> >> /usr/lib/xcp/lib/interface-reconfigure is a no-op. >> And the reason it fails silently is (from /usr/lib/xcp/bin/xe-reset-networking): >> >> os.system(interface_reconfigure + if_args + ' >/dev/null 2>/dev/null') >> >> >> On 20/12/2011, at 4:05 PM, Dave Whitla wrote: >> >>> After much pain I managed to get a bonded management interface on my pool master. >>> I then, following the advice of the XenServer 6.0 Administrator's Guide, configured the bonded interface for VM traffic before adding any pool slaves. >>> I then cleanly installed two machines (Debian Wheezy + Open vSwitch + xcp packages from the xcp unstable repo). >>> When I joined the new slaves to the pool the bonds were reversed bond0 was attached to the wrong network as xapi1 instead of xapi0 so I was unable to make bond0 the management interface as it has no IP. >>> I've now tried every possible combination over the last 24 hours to get this working. >>> >>> None of the network related xe tools work - they all barf with exceptions. >>> The Xencenter UI won't let me delete networks, bonds or anything else. >>> I can't remove the broken machines from the pool. >>> The whole things a bit of a mess. >>> >>> Has anyone tested bonded networking? >>> Incidentally, in arriving at my present situation I discovered that the bridge names xenbr# and xapi# are hard-coded somewhere so it is necessary to create bridges of the same same in /etc/network/interfaces. >>> Why a bridge is required for the management interface at all beats me. >>> xe host-management-reconfigure never works because the interface you are switching to can't possibly have an IP yet - because what you are trying to do is migrate the IP from eth0 to bond0 (xenbr0 to xapi0 is required by xapi). >>> It would seem as though some library behind xe is silently failing to reconfigure host networking correctly. >>> Being fluent in about a dozen programming languages, but none of them OCaml, I have no idea where to start looking. >>> >>> I'd be very grateful for any assistance. >>> Sorry if this sounds more like a whine than a plea for help - I'm frazzled after 24 hours straight beating my head against the desktop. >>> >>> Dave >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xen-api mailing list >>> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >>> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 22:46:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:46:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8Rb-0001B8-8U; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:45:59 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8RZ-0001B3-Pf for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:45:58 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324421150!6280270!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9788 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 22:45:51 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-12.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 22:45:51 -0000 Received: from [172.20.10.2] (unknown [120.155.187.107]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7CC3C2805E; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:45:48 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:45:42 +1000 Message-Id: <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> References: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> To: Mike McClurg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thanks Mike. I'm more of a doer than a bug-reporter. Can we get this project truly open and make the source repo public? I really need to fix this stuff myself rather than wait for people who already have a lot on their plate. I pushed hard at work to be allowed to build on this for a test environment solution which was going to go to VMWare. I've been a very vocal open source evangelist for the last 20 years and with my current employer I've been having recent wins so I was indulged. Now I'm out on a limb and need to be able to fix bugs in a hurry but I can't find the source anywhere. Lets all do some Christmas giving. :) Dave On 21/12/2011, at 5:50 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: > On 20/12/11 06:07, Dave Whitla wrote: >> It is not possible to remove a host from a pool because /etc/firstboot.d/data/ doesn't exist. >> In fact /etc/firstboot.d doesn't exist and creating /etc/firstboot.d/data doesn't seem to help. >> No idea where to start looking. >> > > Thanks, Dave. Created a bug on Launchpad. > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/xcp/+bug/907045 _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 22:46:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:46:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8Rb-0001B8-8U; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:45:59 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8RZ-0001B3-Pf for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:45:58 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324421150!6280270!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9788 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 22:45:51 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-12.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 22:45:51 -0000 Received: from [172.20.10.2] (unknown [120.155.187.107]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7CC3C2805E; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:45:48 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:45:42 +1000 Message-Id: <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> References: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> To: Mike McClurg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thanks Mike. I'm more of a doer than a bug-reporter. Can we get this project truly open and make the source repo public? I really need to fix this stuff myself rather than wait for people who already have a lot on their plate. I pushed hard at work to be allowed to build on this for a test environment solution which was going to go to VMWare. I've been a very vocal open source evangelist for the last 20 years and with my current employer I've been having recent wins so I was indulged. Now I'm out on a limb and need to be able to fix bugs in a hurry but I can't find the source anywhere. Lets all do some Christmas giving. :) Dave On 21/12/2011, at 5:50 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: > On 20/12/11 06:07, Dave Whitla wrote: >> It is not possible to remove a host from a pool because /etc/firstboot.d/data/ doesn't exist. >> In fact /etc/firstboot.d doesn't exist and creating /etc/firstboot.d/data doesn't seem to help. >> No idea where to start looking. >> > > Thanks, Dave. Created a bug on Launchpad. > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/xcp/+bug/907045 _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 22:52:54 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:52:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8YC-0001FK-SU; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:52:48 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8YB-0001FC-6v for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:52:47 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Jonathan.Ludlam@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324421560!7999981!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NzQwMQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25466 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 22:52:41 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-7.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 22:52:41 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,385,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9593060" Received: from lonpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 22:52:40 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) with mapi; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:52:40 +0000 From: Jonathan Ludlam To: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:52:39 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool Thread-Index: Acy/ahMiIAUi0dpFRYOlW2S2UhhtHA== Message-ID: <02336C70-A72E-42C7-98C8-1BD88DE7A663@eu.citrix.com> References: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com The source is all public already, it's all on github. Look at this page: wiki.xen.org/wiki/Building_XAPI_for_debian I've not finished completely testing what's written there (our build system uses slightly different build targets and does other bits and pieces) in particular the dependencies, but it should get you started. Jon Sent from my iPad On 20 Dec 2011, at 22:48, "Dave Whitla" wrote: > Thanks Mike. > I'm more of a doer than a bug-reporter. > Can we get this project truly open and make the source repo public? > I really need to fix this stuff myself rather than wait for people who already have a lot on their plate. > I pushed hard at work to be allowed to build on this for a test environment solution which was going to go to VMWare. > I've been a very vocal open source evangelist for the last 20 years and with my current employer I've been having recent wins so I was indulged. > Now I'm out on a limb and need to be able to fix bugs in a hurry but I can't find the source anywhere. > Lets all do some Christmas giving. > > :) > > Dave > > On 21/12/2011, at 5:50 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: > >> On 20/12/11 06:07, Dave Whitla wrote: >>> It is not possible to remove a host from a pool because /etc/firstboot.d/data/ doesn't exist. >>> In fact /etc/firstboot.d doesn't exist and creating /etc/firstboot.d/data doesn't seem to help. >>> No idea where to start looking. >>> >> >> Thanks, Dave. Created a bug on Launchpad. >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xcp/+bug/907045 > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 22:52:54 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:52:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8YC-0001FK-SU; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:52:48 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8YB-0001FC-6v for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:52:47 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Jonathan.Ludlam@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324421560!7999981!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NzQwMQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25466 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 22:52:41 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-7.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 22:52:41 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,385,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9593060" Received: from lonpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 22:52:40 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) with mapi; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:52:40 +0000 From: Jonathan Ludlam To: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:52:39 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool Thread-Index: Acy/ahMiIAUi0dpFRYOlW2S2UhhtHA== Message-ID: <02336C70-A72E-42C7-98C8-1BD88DE7A663@eu.citrix.com> References: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com The source is all public already, it's all on github. Look at this page: wiki.xen.org/wiki/Building_XAPI_for_debian I've not finished completely testing what's written there (our build system uses slightly different build targets and does other bits and pieces) in particular the dependencies, but it should get you started. Jon Sent from my iPad On 20 Dec 2011, at 22:48, "Dave Whitla" wrote: > Thanks Mike. > I'm more of a doer than a bug-reporter. > Can we get this project truly open and make the source repo public? > I really need to fix this stuff myself rather than wait for people who already have a lot on their plate. > I pushed hard at work to be allowed to build on this for a test environment solution which was going to go to VMWare. > I've been a very vocal open source evangelist for the last 20 years and with my current employer I've been having recent wins so I was indulged. > Now I'm out on a limb and need to be able to fix bugs in a hurry but I can't find the source anywhere. > Lets all do some Christmas giving. > > :) > > Dave > > On 21/12/2011, at 5:50 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: > >> On 20/12/11 06:07, Dave Whitla wrote: >>> It is not possible to remove a host from a pool because /etc/firstboot.d/data/ doesn't exist. >>> In fact /etc/firstboot.d doesn't exist and creating /etc/firstboot.d/data doesn't seem to help. >>> No idea where to start looking. >>> >> >> Thanks, Dave. Created a bug on Launchpad. >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xcp/+bug/907045 > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 22:54:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:54:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8Zs-0001Hz-40; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:54:32 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8Zq-0001Hi-2W for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:54:30 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324421661!9562306!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMDk1NDk=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18562 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 22:54:22 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-2.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 22:54:22 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,385,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="20166483" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 17:54:19 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:54:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF1121A.2010609@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:54:18 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Whitla References: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 20/12/11 22:45, Dave Whitla wrote: > Thanks Mike. > I'm more of a doer than a bug-reporter. > Can we get this project truly open and make the source repo public? > I really need to fix this stuff myself rather than wait for people who already have a lot on their plate. > I pushed hard at work to be allowed to build on this for a test environment solution which was going to go to VMWare. > I've been a very vocal open source evangelist for the last 20 years and with my current employer I've been having recent wins so I was indulged. > Now I'm out on a limb and need to be able to fix bugs in a hurry but I can't find the source anywhere. > Lets all do some Christmas giving. > > :) > Hey Dave, XCP is open source, and all the Kronos code is on Github. You are more than welcome to contribute! Checkout my github page [1], and fork whatever repos you're interested in. We use git-buildpackage for building our debian packages. What areas were you particularly interested in contributing to? Mike [1] https://github.com/mcclurmc _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 22:54:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:54:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8Zs-0001Hz-40; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:54:32 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8Zq-0001Hi-2W for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:54:30 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324421661!9562306!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMDk1NDk=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18562 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 22:54:22 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-2.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 22:54:22 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,385,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="20166483" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 17:54:19 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:54:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF1121A.2010609@citrix.com> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:54:18 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Whitla References: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 20/12/11 22:45, Dave Whitla wrote: > Thanks Mike. > I'm more of a doer than a bug-reporter. > Can we get this project truly open and make the source repo public? > I really need to fix this stuff myself rather than wait for people who already have a lot on their plate. > I pushed hard at work to be allowed to build on this for a test environment solution which was going to go to VMWare. > I've been a very vocal open source evangelist for the last 20 years and with my current employer I've been having recent wins so I was indulged. > Now I'm out on a limb and need to be able to fix bugs in a hurry but I can't find the source anywhere. > Lets all do some Christmas giving. > > :) > Hey Dave, XCP is open source, and all the Kronos code is on Github. You are more than welcome to contribute! Checkout my github page [1], and fork whatever repos you're interested in. We use git-buildpackage for building our debian packages. What areas were you particularly interested in contributing to? Mike [1] https://github.com/mcclurmc _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 22:59:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:59:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8et-0001N3-Le; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:59:43 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8es-0001My-0I for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:59:42 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1324421974!8733039!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.7 required=7.0 tests=MIME_QP_LONG_LINE, RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1709 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 22:59:34 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 22:59:34 -0000 Received: from [10.218.43.82] (unknown [1.145.85.15]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9195E2805E; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:59:32 +1000 (EST) References: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> <02336C70-A72E-42C7-98C8-1BD88DE7A663@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <02336C70-A72E-42C7-98C8-1BD88DE7A663@eu.citrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <966BE3C9-7346-49CD-832B-CA64344D702B@ocean.net.au> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Dave Whitla Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:59:22 +1000 To: Jonathan Ludlam Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thanks Jon. I've been there. Saw a repo for your auto builder only. On 21/12/2011, at 8:52 AM, Jonathan Ludlam wrote: > The source is all public already, it's all on github. Look at this page: > > wiki.xen.org/wiki/Building_XAPI_for_debian > > I've not finished completely testing what's written there (our build system uses slightly different build targets and does other bits and pieces) in particular the dependencies, but it should get you started. > > Jon > > Sent from my iPad > > On 20 Dec 2011, at 22:48, "Dave Whitla" wrote: > >> Thanks Mike. >> I'm more of a doer than a bug-reporter. >> Can we get this project truly open and make the source repo public? >> I really need to fix this stuff myself rather than wait for people who already have a lot on their plate. >> I pushed hard at work to be allowed to build on this for a test environment solution which was going to go to VMWare. >> I've been a very vocal open source evangelist for the last 20 years and with my current employer I've been having recent wins so I was indulged. >> Now I'm out on a limb and need to be able to fix bugs in a hurry but I can't find the source anywhere. >> Lets all do some Christmas giving. >> >> :) >> >> Dave >> >> On 21/12/2011, at 5:50 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: >> >>> On 20/12/11 06:07, Dave Whitla wrote: >>>> It is not possible to remove a host from a pool because /etc/firstboot.d/data/ doesn't exist. >>>> In fact /etc/firstboot.d doesn't exist and creating /etc/firstboot.d/data doesn't seem to help. >>>> No idea where to start looking. >>>> >>> >>> Thanks, Dave. Created a bug on Launchpad. >>> >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xcp/+bug/907045 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 22:59:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:59:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8et-0001N3-Le; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:59:43 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd8es-0001My-0I for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:59:42 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1324421974!8733039!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.7 required=7.0 tests=MIME_QP_LONG_LINE, RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1709 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 22:59:34 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 22:59:34 -0000 Received: from [10.218.43.82] (unknown [1.145.85.15]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9195E2805E; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:59:32 +1000 (EST) References: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> <02336C70-A72E-42C7-98C8-1BD88DE7A663@eu.citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <02336C70-A72E-42C7-98C8-1BD88DE7A663@eu.citrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <966BE3C9-7346-49CD-832B-CA64344D702B@ocean.net.au> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Dave Whitla Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:59:22 +1000 To: Jonathan Ludlam Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thanks Jon. I've been there. Saw a repo for your auto builder only. On 21/12/2011, at 8:52 AM, Jonathan Ludlam wrote: > The source is all public already, it's all on github. Look at this page: > > wiki.xen.org/wiki/Building_XAPI_for_debian > > I've not finished completely testing what's written there (our build system uses slightly different build targets and does other bits and pieces) in particular the dependencies, but it should get you started. > > Jon > > Sent from my iPad > > On 20 Dec 2011, at 22:48, "Dave Whitla" wrote: > >> Thanks Mike. >> I'm more of a doer than a bug-reporter. >> Can we get this project truly open and make the source repo public? >> I really need to fix this stuff myself rather than wait for people who already have a lot on their plate. >> I pushed hard at work to be allowed to build on this for a test environment solution which was going to go to VMWare. >> I've been a very vocal open source evangelist for the last 20 years and with my current employer I've been having recent wins so I was indulged. >> Now I'm out on a limb and need to be able to fix bugs in a hurry but I can't find the source anywhere. >> Lets all do some Christmas giving. >> >> :) >> >> Dave >> >> On 21/12/2011, at 5:50 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: >> >>> On 20/12/11 06:07, Dave Whitla wrote: >>>> It is not possible to remove a host from a pool because /etc/firstboot.d/data/ doesn't exist. >>>> In fact /etc/firstboot.d doesn't exist and creating /etc/firstboot.d/data doesn't seem to help. >>>> No idea where to start looking. >>>> >>> >>> Thanks, Dave. Created a bug on Launchpad. >>> >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xcp/+bug/907045 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 23:26:32 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:26:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd94i-0001Xu-Vk; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:26:24 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd94h-0001Xp-IT for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:26:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Jonathan.Ludlam@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324423577!8086108!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NzUyMg==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 8325 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 23:26:17 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-5.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 23:26:17 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,385,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9593341" Received: from lonpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 23:26:16 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) with mapi; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:26:16 +0000 From: Jonathan Ludlam To: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:26:14 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool Thread-Index: Acy/bsUrR7/TXslzSK++lSg8az52/w== Message-ID: <5BCFCEA0-B623-48FB-A1BF-C924E5B8E66A@eu.citrix.com> References: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> <02336C70-A72E-42C7-98C8-1BD88DE7A663@eu.citrix.com> <966BE3C9-7346-49CD-832B-CA64344D702B@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <966BE3C9-7346-49CD-832B-CA64344D702B@ocean.net.au> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Look closer :-) in particular, check out this file: https://github.com/jonludlam/xapi-autobuilder/blob/master/git-repos I appreciate it's all a little obscure at the moment - once we have things uploaded to debian we'll move the main repositories over to github.com/xen-org and we'll invest some time in documenting and whatnot - up until this point it's been a bit of a race just to get something working at all :-) Jon On 20 Dec 2011, at 22:59, Dave Whitla wrote: > Thanks Jon. I've been there. Saw a repo for your auto builder only. > > On 21/12/2011, at 8:52 AM, Jonathan Ludlam wrote: > >> The source is all public already, it's all on github. Look at this page: >> >> wiki.xen.org/wiki/Building_XAPI_for_debian >> >> I've not finished completely testing what's written there (our build system uses slightly different build targets and does other bits and pieces) in particular the dependencies, but it should get you started. >> >> Jon >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 20 Dec 2011, at 22:48, "Dave Whitla" wrote: >> >>> Thanks Mike. >>> I'm more of a doer than a bug-reporter. >>> Can we get this project truly open and make the source repo public? >>> I really need to fix this stuff myself rather than wait for people who already have a lot on their plate. >>> I pushed hard at work to be allowed to build on this for a test environment solution which was going to go to VMWare. >>> I've been a very vocal open source evangelist for the last 20 years and with my current employer I've been having recent wins so I was indulged. >>> Now I'm out on a limb and need to be able to fix bugs in a hurry but I can't find the source anywhere. >>> Lets all do some Christmas giving. >>> >>> :) >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On 21/12/2011, at 5:50 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: >>> >>>> On 20/12/11 06:07, Dave Whitla wrote: >>>>> It is not possible to remove a host from a pool because /etc/firstboot.d/data/ doesn't exist. >>>>> In fact /etc/firstboot.d doesn't exist and creating /etc/firstboot.d/data doesn't seem to help. >>>>> No idea where to start looking. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, Dave. Created a bug on Launchpad. >>>> >>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xcp/+bug/907045 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xen-api mailing list >>> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >>> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 23:26:32 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:26:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd94i-0001Xu-Vk; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:26:24 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd94h-0001Xp-IT for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:26:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Jonathan.Ludlam@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324423577!8086108!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NzUyMg==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 8325 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 23:26:17 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-5.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 23:26:17 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,385,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9593341" Received: from lonpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 23:26:16 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) with mapi; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:26:16 +0000 From: Jonathan Ludlam To: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:26:14 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool Thread-Index: Acy/bsUrR7/TXslzSK++lSg8az52/w== Message-ID: <5BCFCEA0-B623-48FB-A1BF-C924E5B8E66A@eu.citrix.com> References: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> <02336C70-A72E-42C7-98C8-1BD88DE7A663@eu.citrix.com> <966BE3C9-7346-49CD-832B-CA64344D702B@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <966BE3C9-7346-49CD-832B-CA64344D702B@ocean.net.au> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Look closer :-) in particular, check out this file: https://github.com/jonludlam/xapi-autobuilder/blob/master/git-repos I appreciate it's all a little obscure at the moment - once we have things uploaded to debian we'll move the main repositories over to github.com/xen-org and we'll invest some time in documenting and whatnot - up until this point it's been a bit of a race just to get something working at all :-) Jon On 20 Dec 2011, at 22:59, Dave Whitla wrote: > Thanks Jon. I've been there. Saw a repo for your auto builder only. > > On 21/12/2011, at 8:52 AM, Jonathan Ludlam wrote: > >> The source is all public already, it's all on github. Look at this page: >> >> wiki.xen.org/wiki/Building_XAPI_for_debian >> >> I've not finished completely testing what's written there (our build system uses slightly different build targets and does other bits and pieces) in particular the dependencies, but it should get you started. >> >> Jon >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 20 Dec 2011, at 22:48, "Dave Whitla" wrote: >> >>> Thanks Mike. >>> I'm more of a doer than a bug-reporter. >>> Can we get this project truly open and make the source repo public? >>> I really need to fix this stuff myself rather than wait for people who already have a lot on their plate. >>> I pushed hard at work to be allowed to build on this for a test environment solution which was going to go to VMWare. >>> I've been a very vocal open source evangelist for the last 20 years and with my current employer I've been having recent wins so I was indulged. >>> Now I'm out on a limb and need to be able to fix bugs in a hurry but I can't find the source anywhere. >>> Lets all do some Christmas giving. >>> >>> :) >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On 21/12/2011, at 5:50 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: >>> >>>> On 20/12/11 06:07, Dave Whitla wrote: >>>>> It is not possible to remove a host from a pool because /etc/firstboot.d/data/ doesn't exist. >>>>> In fact /etc/firstboot.d doesn't exist and creating /etc/firstboot.d/data doesn't seem to help. >>>>> No idea where to start looking. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, Dave. Created a bug on Launchpad. >>>> >>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xcp/+bug/907045 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xen-api mailing list >>> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >>> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 23:37:32 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd9FQ-0001hC-0F; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:28 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd9FO-0001gy-7I for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:26 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324424238!6335130!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 17049 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 23:37:18 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-10.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 23:37:18 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A5AC72805E; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:37:16 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: <5BCFCEA0-B623-48FB-A1BF-C924E5B8E66A@eu.citrix.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:37:10 +1000 Message-Id: References: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> <02336C70-A72E-42C7-98C8-1BD88DE7A663@eu.citrix.com> <966BE3C9-7346-49CD-832B-CA64344D702B@ocean.net.au> <5BCFCEA0-B623-48FB-A1BF-C924E5B8E66A@eu.citrix.com> To: Jonathan Ludlam X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thanks Jon and Mike for bearing with me. I've been forced to compromise at work to meet our schedule but I'll keep working on Kronos as this year's Christmas project. I'll also be near Santa Clara around the time of the Oracle-sponsored Xen hackathon. I aim to have something to make it worth attending by then. Merry Christmas :) Dave On 21/12/2011, at 9:26 AM, Jonathan Ludlam wrote: > Look closer :-) > > in particular, check out this file: > > https://github.com/jonludlam/xapi-autobuilder/blob/master/git-repos > > I appreciate it's all a little obscure at the moment - once we have things uploaded to debian we'll move the main repositories over to github.com/xen-org and we'll invest some time in documenting and whatnot - up until this point it's been a bit of a race just to get something working at all :-) > > Jon > > On 21/12/2011, at 8:54 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: > Hey Dave, > > XCP is open source, and all the Kronos code is on Github. You are more > than welcome to contribute! Checkout my github page [1], and fork > whatever repos you're interested in. We use git-buildpackage for > building our debian packages. > > What areas were you particularly interested in contributing to? > > Mike > > [1] https://github.com/mcclurmc _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 23:37:32 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd9FQ-0001hC-0F; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:28 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd9FO-0001gy-7I for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:26 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324424238!6335130!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 17049 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 23:37:18 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-10.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 23:37:18 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A5AC72805E; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:37:16 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: <5BCFCEA0-B623-48FB-A1BF-C924E5B8E66A@eu.citrix.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:37:10 +1000 Message-Id: References: <6CFC6B32-8563-43E7-AD5B-3F7F1A4D7A77@ocean.net.au> <4EF0E71A.7090909@citrix.com> <3E6E6E60-F487-4BBD-8E59-733C86446C4A@ocean.net.au> <02336C70-A72E-42C7-98C8-1BD88DE7A663@eu.citrix.com> <966BE3C9-7346-49CD-832B-CA64344D702B@ocean.net.au> <5BCFCEA0-B623-48FB-A1BF-C924E5B8E66A@eu.citrix.com> To: Jonathan Ludlam X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: can't remove hosts from a pool X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thanks Jon and Mike for bearing with me. I've been forced to compromise at work to meet our schedule but I'll keep working on Kronos as this year's Christmas project. I'll also be near Santa Clara around the time of the Oracle-sponsored Xen hackathon. I aim to have something to make it worth attending by then. Merry Christmas :) Dave On 21/12/2011, at 9:26 AM, Jonathan Ludlam wrote: > Look closer :-) > > in particular, check out this file: > > https://github.com/jonludlam/xapi-autobuilder/blob/master/git-repos > > I appreciate it's all a little obscure at the moment - once we have things uploaded to debian we'll move the main repositories over to github.com/xen-org and we'll invest some time in documenting and whatnot - up until this point it's been a bit of a race just to get something working at all :-) > > Jon > > On 21/12/2011, at 8:54 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: > Hey Dave, > > XCP is open source, and all the Kronos code is on Github. You are more > than welcome to contribute! Checkout my github page [1], and fork > whatever repos you're interested in. We use git-buildpackage for > building our debian packages. > > What areas were you particularly interested in contributing to? > > Mike > > [1] https://github.com/mcclurmc _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 23:37:33 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd9FP-0001h7-Sr; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:27 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd9FN-0001gx-MX for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:25 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Jonathan.Ludlam@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324424239!8207799!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NzQwMQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23481 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 23:37:19 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-15.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 23:37:19 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,385,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9593403" Received: from lonpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 23:37:19 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) with mapi; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:19 +0000 From: Jonathan Ludlam To: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:17 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces Thread-Index: Acy/cFA/K0pqxS5/RuS4abbioh7W5A== Message-ID: <7DB15EC9-517C-4AB4-B23C-0CA908A01929@eu.citrix.com> References: <8FA7B6F2-4F64-4471-8CDA-CE85CD878475@eu.citrix.com> <1B6DB17D-CB88-416E-80A4-4CE77CDCA6A3@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <1B6DB17D-CB88-416E-80A4-4CE77CDCA6A3@ocean.net.au> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 20 Dec 2011, at 22:38, Dave Whitla wrote: > Thanks Jon. > > I was thinking about doing it myself. I'll take a look at what Rob has done so far. > My only concern is that it will likely make assumptions about SYSV init being the principal run control system and that it's OK to take interfaces down. If you enable the daemon as it's currently being written, it will own the configuration of networking on the box, and will indeed not play nicely with other things. The primary motivation for this is to make things work for XCP the distro - the embedded platform. It coincidentally will fix the problem that none of the current networking scripts will work with debian, but it will still be of the mindset that it is the sole thing that fiddles with networks on the system. The concession for other use cases is currently the ability to turn it off :-) > I prefer my Pacemaker cluster solution (which I have invested a lot of time in) to XCP's reinvention of all the wheels. In this scenario Pacemaker will detect networks going down as a system failure and will fence the host unless I'm provided a way to integrate the two. The daemon is using json rpc to talk to xapi. It shouldn't be too hard to write a different one, though the obvious problem there is lack of documentation. I recommend talking to Rob about it for now, or asking on the IRC channel. We've got a nice IDL defining these interfaces (nice if you like ocaml, that is), but producing documentation from it isn't yet sorted. It's on the to-do list. > So a robust solution really needs to be modular and pluggable if you want to support simply adding xapi to existing platforms. > Yes. > Incidentally I've noticed that when the service names were changed to be prefixed with xcp- none of the supporting libraries of scripts were updated. > Is there some way we can get this stuff out in he open where I can check out and iteratively fix-build-deploy-test. As I said before, xapi-autobuilder is how we're building this stuff, but it's all normal debian packages. apt-get source xcp-xapi, and fire off the patches :-) > I'm really under the pump to get this stuff working in our own deployment and I don't have time to sit around and wait for other people to fix stuff which I can do myself. > If you can't check out the source and fix bugs then it's not really open source. > > Dave > > On 21/12/2011, at 1:50 AM, Jonathan Ludlam wrote: > >> The problem is that the network scripts that are used in XCP are designed to work with Centos style ifcfg scripts, not /etc/network/interfaces. The script /usr/lib/xcp/lib/interface-reconfigure was no-opified in order to prevent it screwing up anything. >> >> Rob Hoes is working on a new platform independent network control daemon that will replace this mechanism for XCP/XenServer - we'll provide an option to use it with Debian/Ubuntu too. Unfortunately it's not quite ready to go yet, but he's feverishly working on it, ETA before the end of the year I hope! >> >> You can check his progress here: https://github.com/robhoes/xen-api/tree/net >> >> Jon >> >> On 20 Dec 2011, at 06:28, Dave Whitla wrote: >> >>> Update: >>> >>> /usr/lib/xcp/lib/interface-reconfigure is a no-op. >>> And the reason it fails silently is (from /usr/lib/xcp/bin/xe-reset-networking): >>> >>> os.system(interface_reconfigure + if_args + ' >/dev/null 2>/dev/null') >>> >>> >>> On 20/12/2011, at 4:05 PM, Dave Whitla wrote: >>> >>>> After much pain I managed to get a bonded management interface on my pool master. >>>> I then, following the advice of the XenServer 6.0 Administrator's Guide, configured the bonded interface for VM traffic before adding any pool slaves. >>>> I then cleanly installed two machines (Debian Wheezy + Open vSwitch + xcp packages from the xcp unstable repo). >>>> When I joined the new slaves to the pool the bonds were reversed bond0 was attached to the wrong network as xapi1 instead of xapi0 so I was unable to make bond0 the management interface as it has no IP. >>>> I've now tried every possible combination over the last 24 hours to get this working. >>>> >>>> None of the network related xe tools work - they all barf with exceptions. >>>> The Xencenter UI won't let me delete networks, bonds or anything else. >>>> I can't remove the broken machines from the pool. >>>> The whole things a bit of a mess. >>>> >>>> Has anyone tested bonded networking? >>>> Incidentally, in arriving at my present situation I discovered that the bridge names xenbr# and xapi# are hard-coded somewhere so it is necessary to create bridges of the same same in /etc/network/interfaces. >>>> Why a bridge is required for the management interface at all beats me. >>>> xe host-management-reconfigure never works because the interface you are switching to can't possibly have an IP yet - because what you are trying to do is migrate the IP from eth0 to bond0 (xenbr0 to xapi0 is required by xapi). >>>> It would seem as though some library behind xe is silently failing to reconfigure host networking correctly. >>>> Being fluent in about a dozen programming languages, but none of them OCaml, I have no idea where to start looking. >>>> >>>> I'd be very grateful for any assistance. >>>> Sorry if this sounds more like a whine than a plea for help - I'm frazzled after 24 hours straight beating my head against the desktop. >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> xen-api mailing list >>>> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >>>> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xen-api mailing list >>> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >>> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api >> > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Tue Dec 20 23:37:33 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd9FP-0001h7-Sr; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:27 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd9FN-0001gx-MX for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:25 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Jonathan.Ludlam@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324424239!8207799!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4NzQwMQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23481 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 23:37:19 -0000 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-15.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Dec 2011 23:37:19 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,385,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9593403" Received: from lonpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 20 Dec 2011 23:37:19 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) with mapi; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:19 +0000 From: Jonathan Ludlam To: Dave Whitla Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:37:17 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces Thread-Index: Acy/cFA/K0pqxS5/RuS4abbioh7W5A== Message-ID: <7DB15EC9-517C-4AB4-B23C-0CA908A01929@eu.citrix.com> References: <8FA7B6F2-4F64-4471-8CDA-CE85CD878475@eu.citrix.com> <1B6DB17D-CB88-416E-80A4-4CE77CDCA6A3@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <1B6DB17D-CB88-416E-80A4-4CE77CDCA6A3@ocean.net.au> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 20 Dec 2011, at 22:38, Dave Whitla wrote: > Thanks Jon. > > I was thinking about doing it myself. I'll take a look at what Rob has done so far. > My only concern is that it will likely make assumptions about SYSV init being the principal run control system and that it's OK to take interfaces down. If you enable the daemon as it's currently being written, it will own the configuration of networking on the box, and will indeed not play nicely with other things. The primary motivation for this is to make things work for XCP the distro - the embedded platform. It coincidentally will fix the problem that none of the current networking scripts will work with debian, but it will still be of the mindset that it is the sole thing that fiddles with networks on the system. The concession for other use cases is currently the ability to turn it off :-) > I prefer my Pacemaker cluster solution (which I have invested a lot of time in) to XCP's reinvention of all the wheels. In this scenario Pacemaker will detect networks going down as a system failure and will fence the host unless I'm provided a way to integrate the two. The daemon is using json rpc to talk to xapi. It shouldn't be too hard to write a different one, though the obvious problem there is lack of documentation. I recommend talking to Rob about it for now, or asking on the IRC channel. We've got a nice IDL defining these interfaces (nice if you like ocaml, that is), but producing documentation from it isn't yet sorted. It's on the to-do list. > So a robust solution really needs to be modular and pluggable if you want to support simply adding xapi to existing platforms. > Yes. > Incidentally I've noticed that when the service names were changed to be prefixed with xcp- none of the supporting libraries of scripts were updated. > Is there some way we can get this stuff out in he open where I can check out and iteratively fix-build-deploy-test. As I said before, xapi-autobuilder is how we're building this stuff, but it's all normal debian packages. apt-get source xcp-xapi, and fire off the patches :-) > I'm really under the pump to get this stuff working in our own deployment and I don't have time to sit around and wait for other people to fix stuff which I can do myself. > If you can't check out the source and fix bugs then it's not really open source. > > Dave > > On 21/12/2011, at 1:50 AM, Jonathan Ludlam wrote: > >> The problem is that the network scripts that are used in XCP are designed to work with Centos style ifcfg scripts, not /etc/network/interfaces. The script /usr/lib/xcp/lib/interface-reconfigure was no-opified in order to prevent it screwing up anything. >> >> Rob Hoes is working on a new platform independent network control daemon that will replace this mechanism for XCP/XenServer - we'll provide an option to use it with Debian/Ubuntu too. Unfortunately it's not quite ready to go yet, but he's feverishly working on it, ETA before the end of the year I hope! >> >> You can check his progress here: https://github.com/robhoes/xen-api/tree/net >> >> Jon >> >> On 20 Dec 2011, at 06:28, Dave Whitla wrote: >> >>> Update: >>> >>> /usr/lib/xcp/lib/interface-reconfigure is a no-op. >>> And the reason it fails silently is (from /usr/lib/xcp/bin/xe-reset-networking): >>> >>> os.system(interface_reconfigure + if_args + ' >/dev/null 2>/dev/null') >>> >>> >>> On 20/12/2011, at 4:05 PM, Dave Whitla wrote: >>> >>>> After much pain I managed to get a bonded management interface on my pool master. >>>> I then, following the advice of the XenServer 6.0 Administrator's Guide, configured the bonded interface for VM traffic before adding any pool slaves. >>>> I then cleanly installed two machines (Debian Wheezy + Open vSwitch + xcp packages from the xcp unstable repo). >>>> When I joined the new slaves to the pool the bonds were reversed bond0 was attached to the wrong network as xapi1 instead of xapi0 so I was unable to make bond0 the management interface as it has no IP. >>>> I've now tried every possible combination over the last 24 hours to get this working. >>>> >>>> None of the network related xe tools work - they all barf with exceptions. >>>> The Xencenter UI won't let me delete networks, bonds or anything else. >>>> I can't remove the broken machines from the pool. >>>> The whole things a bit of a mess. >>>> >>>> Has anyone tested bonded networking? >>>> Incidentally, in arriving at my present situation I discovered that the bridge names xenbr# and xapi# are hard-coded somewhere so it is necessary to create bridges of the same same in /etc/network/interfaces. >>>> Why a bridge is required for the management interface at all beats me. >>>> xe host-management-reconfigure never works because the interface you are switching to can't possibly have an IP yet - because what you are trying to do is migrate the IP from eth0 to bond0 (xenbr0 to xapi0 is required by xapi). >>>> It would seem as though some library behind xe is silently failing to reconfigure host networking correctly. >>>> Being fluent in about a dozen programming languages, but none of them OCaml, I have no idea where to start looking. >>>> >>>> I'd be very grateful for any assistance. >>>> Sorry if this sounds more like a whine than a plea for help - I'm frazzled after 24 hours straight beating my head against the desktop. >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> xen-api mailing list >>>> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >>>> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xen-api mailing list >>> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >>> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api >> > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 08:40:04 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:40:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdHiO-0003Wz-Up; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:39:56 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdHiN-0003Wr-Si; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:39:56 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324456787!6372057!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjQzNTA=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 7348 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 08:39:49 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-6.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 08:39:49 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,387,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="174972745" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 21 Dec 2011 03:39:47 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 03:39:47 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF19B51.50401@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:39:45 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Fajar A. Nugraha" References: <20111219082207.GE12984@reaktio.net> <4EF0E48E.6010900@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , ruijin zhou , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] CrossPoolMigration X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 21/12/11 03:10, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: >> Storage motion is something that we are prototyping for XCP/XenServer. >> It will not be a part of the Xen hypervisor. We'll probably start more >> work on the prototype in January, and we'll post details of our >> implementation plan to this list. > > Is still based on drbd and tap, as in the wiki page? If yes, it'd be > ... interesting (to say the least) to see how these issues will be > handled: > - space for drbd metadata: > http://www.drbd.org/users-guide/ch-internals.html#s-metadata > - performance penalty and choice of replication modes: > http://www.drbd.org/users-guide-emb/s-replication-protocols.html > - general tap issues (qdisk vs module, vanilla vs patched 2.6.32, etc.) > Thanks for those links. No, the current plan is not to use DRBD, though I can't remember the reasons that Dave decided against it. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 08:40:04 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:40:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdHiO-0003Wz-Up; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:39:56 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdHiN-0003Wr-Si; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:39:56 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324456787!6372057!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjQzNTA=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 7348 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 08:39:49 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-6.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 08:39:49 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,387,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="174972745" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 21 Dec 2011 03:39:47 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 03:39:47 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF19B51.50401@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:39:45 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Fajar A. Nugraha" References: <20111219082207.GE12984@reaktio.net> <4EF0E48E.6010900@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , ruijin zhou , "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [Xen-devel] CrossPoolMigration X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 21/12/11 03:10, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Mike McClurg wrote: >> Storage motion is something that we are prototyping for XCP/XenServer. >> It will not be a part of the Xen hypervisor. We'll probably start more >> work on the prototype in January, and we'll post details of our >> implementation plan to this list. > > Is still based on drbd and tap, as in the wiki page? If yes, it'd be > ... interesting (to say the least) to see how these issues will be > handled: > - space for drbd metadata: > http://www.drbd.org/users-guide/ch-internals.html#s-metadata > - performance penalty and choice of replication modes: > http://www.drbd.org/users-guide-emb/s-replication-protocols.html > - general tap issues (qdisk vs module, vanilla vs patched 2.6.32, etc.) > Thanks for those links. No, the current plan is not to use DRBD, though I can't remember the reasons that Dave decided against it. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 09:15:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:15:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdIGa-0004Lw-Cj; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:15:16 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdIGY-0004Lo-B1 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:15:14 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324458906!6312754!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMDk3MzU=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27786 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 09:15:08 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-3.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 09:15:08 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,387,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="20176338" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 21 Dec 2011 04:15:06 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 04:15:05 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF1A398.40300@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:15:04 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Outback Dingo References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XFS / EXT4 SR git patch X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com (CC'ing xen-api, since this is useful for everyone) On 21/12/11 03:22, Outback Dingo wrote: > Heres a patch from the latest git tree i pulled for the XFS / EXT4 work attached > > Ive got it running on kronos without issues at the moment, and VMs are running > > patch attached.. thanks guys. Very cool! For everyone on the list, Outback Dingo wrote a wiki page describing how this works: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Creating_a_LVM_backed_XFS_SR Outback Dingo, I saw in my IRC logs from last night that you wanted commit privileges. The nice thing about hosting our code on github is that you don't need to be given commit privileges in order to contribute to XCP. Create a github account. Go to my github page, and fork the xcp-storage-managers repository. Clone the repo to your local box, make the changes, and push back to github. Then you can create a pull request, which will basically ask me to pull your changes into my repo. Anyone can create a pull request, and any of the commiters can then pull and commit the change, if it passes review. Since the XCP toolstack and XenServer are the same code base, we will need to do some work to make sure that additional features like these are installed in XCP, and not in XenServer - as a dev, I can decide what goes into XCP, but not what goes into XenServer. So, as an experiment, why don't you try submitting your code as a pull request to my github repo? This is the process that all of our internal devs use, and this is how we'd like to start accepting external contributions as well. Please let me know if you run into any issues! Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 09:15:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:15:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdIGa-0004Lw-Cj; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:15:16 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdIGY-0004Lo-B1 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:15:14 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324458906!6312754!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMDk3MzU=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27786 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 09:15:08 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-3.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 09:15:08 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,387,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="20176338" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 21 Dec 2011 04:15:06 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 04:15:05 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF1A398.40300@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:15:04 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Outback Dingo References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XFS / EXT4 SR git patch X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com (CC'ing xen-api, since this is useful for everyone) On 21/12/11 03:22, Outback Dingo wrote: > Heres a patch from the latest git tree i pulled for the XFS / EXT4 work attached > > Ive got it running on kronos without issues at the moment, and VMs are running > > patch attached.. thanks guys. Very cool! For everyone on the list, Outback Dingo wrote a wiki page describing how this works: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Creating_a_LVM_backed_XFS_SR Outback Dingo, I saw in my IRC logs from last night that you wanted commit privileges. The nice thing about hosting our code on github is that you don't need to be given commit privileges in order to contribute to XCP. Create a github account. Go to my github page, and fork the xcp-storage-managers repository. Clone the repo to your local box, make the changes, and push back to github. Then you can create a pull request, which will basically ask me to pull your changes into my repo. Anyone can create a pull request, and any of the commiters can then pull and commit the change, if it passes review. Since the XCP toolstack and XenServer are the same code base, we will need to do some work to make sure that additional features like these are installed in XCP, and not in XenServer - as a dev, I can decide what goes into XCP, but not what goes into XenServer. So, as an experiment, why don't you try submitting your code as a pull request to my github repo? This is the process that all of our internal devs use, and this is how we'd like to start accepting external contributions as well. Please let me know if you run into any issues! Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 10:15:06 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:15:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdJCN-00055O-2c; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:14:59 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdJCM-00055J-4R for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:14:58 +0000 X-Env-Sender: christian.fischer@easterngraphics.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324462385!57026696!1 X-Originating-IP: [195.191.216.34] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27831 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 10:13:05 -0000 Received: from mail.easterngraphics.com (HELO intranet.easterngraphics.com) (195.191.216.34) by server-8.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 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[81.106.161.69]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ft9sm9688188qab.20.2011.12.21.02.24.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 21 Dec 2011 02:24:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EF1B3F6.1050309@marples.net> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:24:54 +0000 From: Dave Marples User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101217 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] xcp-guest-templates deb install error X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi folks, Just did an apt-get update to the latest version and got the following error; Setting up xcp-guest-templates (0.1-3) ... touch: cannot touch `/usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/CREATE_TEMPLATES_STAMP': No such file or directory dpkg: error processing xcp-guest-templates (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 configured to not write apport reports Errors were encountered while processing: xcp-guest-templates mkdir /usr/lib/xen-common/xapi fixes the issue. Regards DAVE _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 10:25:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:25:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdJMB-0005YO-8R; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:25:07 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdJM9-0005Y1-I5 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:25:05 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave@marples.net X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324463098!6389353!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.216.50] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5890 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 10:24:59 -0000 Received: from mail-qw0-f50.google.com (HELO mail-qw0-f50.google.com) (209.85.216.50) by server-7.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 10:24:59 -0000 Received: by qaea17 with SMTP id a17so30624996qae.9 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 02:24:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marples.net; s=mail; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dccvE1P+mevgSBIWx+TGWDhVNc7r8LguE/S8X75jJKs=; b=X+DUQDKJ8d1VYF/Lx1vtuhGZiWLlSbo+sW7kmBOFFbb8IEAxc5yrvzjndCzriIURlk xW0744Se55JNa4vGXnRqIO3Q+cKDQGLGCDlVF6EasN+2EYlHQavoFMLz33gM4BLZ4EC6 cWNEqOwndunfkrYIg4qlyt161BSbKECwXPJmg= Received: by 10.224.210.130 with SMTP id gk2mr7466937qab.23.1324463097778; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 02:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.26.172.174] (cpc3-mfld5-0-0-cust324.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com. [81.106.161.69]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ft9sm9688188qab.20.2011.12.21.02.24.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 21 Dec 2011 02:24:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EF1B3F6.1050309@marples.net> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:24:54 +0000 From: Dave Marples User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101217 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] xcp-guest-templates deb install error X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi folks, Just did an apt-get update to the latest version and got the following error; Setting up xcp-guest-templates (0.1-3) ... touch: cannot touch `/usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/CREATE_TEMPLATES_STAMP': No such file or directory dpkg: error processing xcp-guest-templates (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 configured to not write apport reports Errors were encountered while processing: xcp-guest-templates mkdir /usr/lib/xen-common/xapi fixes the issue. Regards DAVE _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 11:41:35 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:41:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdKY5-00087J-8Z; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:41:29 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdKY3-000878-Tw for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:41:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324467680!7693032!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjQ3MzY=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11437 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 11:41:21 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-13.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 11:41:21 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,387,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="174989270" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 21 Dec 2011 06:41:19 -0500 Received: from [10.80.2.141] (10.80.2.141) by FTLPMAILMX01.citrite.net (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 06:41:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF1C5DE.4000606@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:41:18 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111110 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Whitla References: <8FA7B6F2-4F64-4471-8CDA-CE85CD878475@eu.citrix.com> <1B6DB17D-CB88-416E-80A4-4CE77CDCA6A3@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <1B6DB17D-CB88-416E-80A4-4CE77CDCA6A3@ocean.net.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 20/12/11 22:38, Dave Whitla wrote: > If you can't check out the source and fix bugs then it's not really open source. > Just so we're clear: XCP is open source, and the source code for the XCP toolstack is publicly available on Github. Here are links. - https://github.com/xen-org This is the main repository for Xapi and related code. This is where the toolstack team does all of its development. You can find each of our team member's personal repositories linked from that page. - https://github.com/jonludlam This is our main repository for the "Kronos" code. You can find the debian package branches here. These are also mirrored on debian.org, though I don't have the link handy. - https://github.com/jonludlam/xapi-autobuilder This is our build system for the XCP toolstack Debian packages. A simple 'make' will build all of the required packages in chroots. This is probably not the workflow that you'd prefer, but reading the makefiles and build scripts will be informative as to how you might go about building your own system. - http://honk.sigxcpu.org/projects/git-buildpackage/manual-html/gbp.html All our debian branches are set up to be buildable with git-buildpackage. Highly recommended. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 11:41:35 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:41:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdKY5-00087J-8Z; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:41:29 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdKY3-000878-Tw for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:41:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324467680!7693032!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjQ3MzY=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11437 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 11:41:21 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-13.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 11:41:21 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,387,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="174989270" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 21 Dec 2011 06:41:19 -0500 Received: from [10.80.2.141] (10.80.2.141) by FTLPMAILMX01.citrite.net (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 06:41:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF1C5DE.4000606@citrix.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:41:18 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111110 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Whitla References: <8FA7B6F2-4F64-4471-8CDA-CE85CD878475@eu.citrix.com> <1B6DB17D-CB88-416E-80A4-4CE77CDCA6A3@ocean.net.au> In-Reply-To: <1B6DB17D-CB88-416E-80A4-4CE77CDCA6A3@ocean.net.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos: bonded interfaces X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 20/12/11 22:38, Dave Whitla wrote: > If you can't check out the source and fix bugs then it's not really open source. > Just so we're clear: XCP is open source, and the source code for the XCP toolstack is publicly available on Github. Here are links. - https://github.com/xen-org This is the main repository for Xapi and related code. This is where the toolstack team does all of its development. You can find each of our team member's personal repositories linked from that page. - https://github.com/jonludlam This is our main repository for the "Kronos" code. You can find the debian package branches here. These are also mirrored on debian.org, though I don't have the link handy. - https://github.com/jonludlam/xapi-autobuilder This is our build system for the XCP toolstack Debian packages. A simple 'make' will build all of the required packages in chroots. This is probably not the workflow that you'd prefer, but reading the makefiles and build scripts will be informative as to how you might go about building your own system. - http://honk.sigxcpu.org/projects/git-buildpackage/manual-html/gbp.html All our debian branches are set up to be buildable with git-buildpackage. Highly recommended. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 15:18:30 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:18:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdNw0-0008KG-Eh; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:18:24 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdNvy-0008KB-VH for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:18:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324480696!8171210!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=2.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,SUBJECT_RANDOMQ,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9536 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 15:18:17 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f171.google.com) (209.85.212.171) by server-2.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 15:18:17 -0000 Received: by wico1 with SMTP id o1so5080521wic.30 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:18:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VPTUdCZVk0gIy3rizrECYQm+rNk9GoFGbVC/cPAmlB0=; b=W7WLW5WFVHigInv13D/yWZ8MwN002JK9jpo3QRXy5I7ZPCo42kikpdduldEQmlU5Iy Dp7f0IVZKcHk/aw18gHHVerZNfmSIjyFVrFuLX0J28eLK/DSPoayD73RcxQ6arAkpH66 OyN0Dzcv4dEoLfZdqRhkIWRJUch/DssTSbgR8= Received: by 10.180.83.69 with SMTP id o5mr15239392wiy.1.1324480696930; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.40.44] (officecvt.selectel.ru. [188.93.16.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w8sm14268741wiz.4.2011.12.21.07.18.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:18:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:18:13 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111215 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: [Xen-API] [XCP][BUG] minor glitch in opaqref data in xenstore X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Good day. Found slightly strange behavior (not really a bug): XCP 1.1 xapi not always clear /xapi/domid/private/vbd/(devicenum) after device unplugging. Steps to reproduce: 1. attach device 1 to VM, 2. detach it. 3. xenstore-ls /xapi/domid/private/vbd Expected: no data about unplugged vbd Got: the unplugged vbd OpaqueRef is still in xenstore. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 15:18:30 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:18:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdNw0-0008KG-Eh; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:18:24 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdNvy-0008KB-VH for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:18:23 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324480696!8171210!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=2.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,SUBJECT_RANDOMQ,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9536 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 15:18:17 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f171.google.com) (209.85.212.171) by server-2.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 15:18:17 -0000 Received: by wico1 with SMTP id o1so5080521wic.30 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:18:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VPTUdCZVk0gIy3rizrECYQm+rNk9GoFGbVC/cPAmlB0=; b=W7WLW5WFVHigInv13D/yWZ8MwN002JK9jpo3QRXy5I7ZPCo42kikpdduldEQmlU5Iy Dp7f0IVZKcHk/aw18gHHVerZNfmSIjyFVrFuLX0J28eLK/DSPoayD73RcxQ6arAkpH66 OyN0Dzcv4dEoLfZdqRhkIWRJUch/DssTSbgR8= Received: by 10.180.83.69 with SMTP id o5mr15239392wiy.1.1324480696930; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.40.44] (officecvt.selectel.ru. [188.93.16.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w8sm14268741wiz.4.2011.12.21.07.18.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:18:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:18:13 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111215 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: [Xen-API] [XCP][BUG] minor glitch in opaqref data in xenstore X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Good day. Found slightly strange behavior (not really a bug): XCP 1.1 xapi not always clear /xapi/domid/private/vbd/(devicenum) after device unplugging. Steps to reproduce: 1. attach device 1 to VM, 2. detach it. 3. xenstore-ls /xapi/domid/private/vbd Expected: no data about unplugged vbd Got: the unplugged vbd OpaqueRef is still in xenstore. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 20:46:01 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:46:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdT2u-0006Bq-Sp; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:45:52 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdT2t-0006Bi-FW for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:45:51 +0000 X-Env-Sender: scottz@wi.rr.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324500344!6468815!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.74.56.124] X-SpamReason: No, hits=2.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: QmFkIElQOiA3MS43NC41Ni4xMjQgPT4gMzkxMTY2\n,sa_preprocessor: QmFkIElQOiA3MS43NC41Ni4xMjQgPT4gMzkxMTY2\n,SUBJECT_RANDOMQ X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 31212 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 20:45:45 -0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (HELO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (71.74.56.124) by server-11.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 20:45:45 -0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=SqgSGYy0 c=1 sm=0 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:17 a=akDsyBIaq0wA:10 a=onQHphFDhdkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=SEF7xSSsAAAA:8 a=JEdqQiwCPwtDCgzQzP8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.56.78.150 Received: from [24.56.78.150] ([24.56.78.150:53240] helo=106.Red-80-38-100.staticIP.rima-tde.net) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BD/18-23543-87542FE4; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:45:44 +0000 Message-ID: <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:45:28 -0600 From: Scott Zupek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [XCP][BUG] minor glitch in opaqref data in xenstore X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com I am re-installing XCP 1.1 via ISO and it looks like it can't find the raid controller driver because it's listing all the drives individually. Since I am not very familiar with the Linux side of Raid, do I need to download the Linux driver (if there is even one available) and put it on a floppy like Windows? Motherboard = ASUS M5A97EVO RAID Controller AMD SB950 chipset Raid type = 1+0 *aka raid 10 On 12/21/11 9:18 AM, George Shuklin wrote: > Good day. > > Found slightly strange behavior (not really a bug): > > XCP 1.1 > xapi not always clear /xapi/domid/private/vbd/(devicenum) after device > unplugging. > > Steps to reproduce: > > 1. attach device 1 to VM, > 2. detach it. > 3. xenstore-ls /xapi/domid/private/vbd > > Expected: > no data about unplugged vbd > > Got: > the unplugged vbd OpaqueRef is still in xenstore. > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 20:46:01 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:46:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdT2u-0006Bq-Sp; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:45:52 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdT2t-0006Bi-FW for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:45:51 +0000 X-Env-Sender: scottz@wi.rr.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324500344!6468815!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.74.56.124] X-SpamReason: No, hits=2.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: QmFkIElQOiA3MS43NC41Ni4xMjQgPT4gMzkxMTY2\n,sa_preprocessor: QmFkIElQOiA3MS43NC41Ni4xMjQgPT4gMzkxMTY2\n,SUBJECT_RANDOMQ X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 31212 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 20:45:45 -0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (HELO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (71.74.56.124) by server-11.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 20:45:45 -0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=SqgSGYy0 c=1 sm=0 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:17 a=akDsyBIaq0wA:10 a=onQHphFDhdkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=SEF7xSSsAAAA:8 a=JEdqQiwCPwtDCgzQzP8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.56.78.150 Received: from [24.56.78.150] ([24.56.78.150:53240] helo=106.Red-80-38-100.staticIP.rima-tde.net) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BD/18-23543-87542FE4; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:45:44 +0000 Message-ID: <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:45:28 -0600 From: Scott Zupek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [XCP][BUG] minor glitch in opaqref data in xenstore X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com I am re-installing XCP 1.1 via ISO and it looks like it can't find the raid controller driver because it's listing all the drives individually. Since I am not very familiar with the Linux side of Raid, do I need to download the Linux driver (if there is even one available) and put it on a floppy like Windows? Motherboard = ASUS M5A97EVO RAID Controller AMD SB950 chipset Raid type = 1+0 *aka raid 10 On 12/21/11 9:18 AM, George Shuklin wrote: > Good day. > > Found slightly strange behavior (not really a bug): > > XCP 1.1 > xapi not always clear /xapi/domid/private/vbd/(devicenum) after device > unplugging. > > Steps to reproduce: > > 1. attach device 1 to VM, > 2. detach it. > 3. xenstore-ls /xapi/domid/private/vbd > > Expected: > no data about unplugged vbd > > Got: > the unplugged vbd OpaqueRef is still in xenstore. > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 21:18:12 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:18:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdTY3-0006XG-BQ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:18:03 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdTY1-0006WZ-FP for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:18:02 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324502275!8298022!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 15090 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 21:17:55 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f171.google.com) (209.85.212.171) by server-11.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 21:17:55 -0000 Received: by wico1 with SMTP id o1so5525289wic.30 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:17:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+4B0ksq/lyktcjT+k5b6B8eE3X96zjVI5GqRp4c0u+c=; b=EbZwq9DavCJ5dTx/cpvipm8unlvId+ce5Kv8fm7Fg+xFBv0bvcaLpdaLh8yw/1h6c+ kWSMrVLA0VHT3UyjqamOIGz4nXGV/hu9c0KTcSgVgc8tVO7IcmCtE2A12urLvFF8Cjtp KH87YBMVzpcR3B/46bDvPvP60UbZvhb5fyO8g= Received: by 10.180.85.4 with SMTP id d4mr17524426wiz.0.1324502275315; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:17:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.111.20] ([81.211.107.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b5sm7210960wbh.4.2011.12.21.13.17.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:17:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EF24CFF.2010703@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:17:51 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111215 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> Subject: [Xen-API] XCP + RAID X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 22.12.2011 00:45, Scott Zupek wrote: > I am re-installing XCP 1.1 via ISO and it looks like it can't find the > raid controller driver because it's listing all the drives individually. > > Since I am not very familiar with the Linux side of Raid, do I need to > download the Linux driver (if there is even one available) and put it > on a floppy like Windows? > > Motherboard = ASUS M5A97EVO > RAID Controller AMD SB950 chipset > > Raid type = 1+0 *aka raid 10 First, please, never reply to maillist with new topic, you causing wrong thread ordering of messages. If you wish to start new topic, just write it to maillist address. Second, there is two issues: 1) Don't use fake raid under linux. Linux has perfect software raid, which much more reliable and much less troublemaking, compare to fake raid (you device is fake raid, because it don't actually do anything with drives). 2) Sad to say, but XCP have very serious issues with raid support. We using software raid with XCP in our company, but we created very specifically crafted ISO image with lots ad-hoc fixes and hacks. I can't recommend do this to anyone, who don't really deep enough in XCP to do this by himself. So, you have to opportunities: a) use real hardware raid (to get raid array as /dev/sda). b) Do not use raid in anyway (configure fake raid to HBA mode) - use external storage and don't bother for XCP system drive. If host die, no data will be lost. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 21:18:12 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:18:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdTY3-0006XG-BQ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:18:03 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdTY1-0006WZ-FP for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:18:02 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324502275!8298022!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 15090 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 21:17:55 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f171.google.com) (209.85.212.171) by server-11.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 21:17:55 -0000 Received: by wico1 with SMTP id o1so5525289wic.30 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:17:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+4B0ksq/lyktcjT+k5b6B8eE3X96zjVI5GqRp4c0u+c=; b=EbZwq9DavCJ5dTx/cpvipm8unlvId+ce5Kv8fm7Fg+xFBv0bvcaLpdaLh8yw/1h6c+ kWSMrVLA0VHT3UyjqamOIGz4nXGV/hu9c0KTcSgVgc8tVO7IcmCtE2A12urLvFF8Cjtp KH87YBMVzpcR3B/46bDvPvP60UbZvhb5fyO8g= Received: by 10.180.85.4 with SMTP id d4mr17524426wiz.0.1324502275315; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:17:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.111.20] ([81.211.107.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b5sm7210960wbh.4.2011.12.21.13.17.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:17:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EF24CFF.2010703@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:17:51 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111215 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> Subject: [Xen-API] XCP + RAID X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 22.12.2011 00:45, Scott Zupek wrote: > I am re-installing XCP 1.1 via ISO and it looks like it can't find the > raid controller driver because it's listing all the drives individually. > > Since I am not very familiar with the Linux side of Raid, do I need to > download the Linux driver (if there is even one available) and put it > on a floppy like Windows? > > Motherboard = ASUS M5A97EVO > RAID Controller AMD SB950 chipset > > Raid type = 1+0 *aka raid 10 First, please, never reply to maillist with new topic, you causing wrong thread ordering of messages. If you wish to start new topic, just write it to maillist address. Second, there is two issues: 1) Don't use fake raid under linux. Linux has perfect software raid, which much more reliable and much less troublemaking, compare to fake raid (you device is fake raid, because it don't actually do anything with drives). 2) Sad to say, but XCP have very serious issues with raid support. We using software raid with XCP in our company, but we created very specifically crafted ISO image with lots ad-hoc fixes and hacks. I can't recommend do this to anyone, who don't really deep enough in XCP to do this by himself. So, you have to opportunities: a) use real hardware raid (to get raid array as /dev/sda). b) Do not use raid in anyway (configure fake raid to HBA mode) - use external storage and don't bother for XCP system drive. If host die, no data will be lost. _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 21:30:59 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:30:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdTkQ-0006nV-2K; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:30:50 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdTkO-0006n5-N2 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:30:48 +0000 X-Env-Sender: scottz@wi.rr.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324503042!6409448!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.74.56.125] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNzEuNzQuNTYuMTI1ID0+IDQzMzgzNA==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6033 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 21:30:42 -0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (HELO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (71.74.56.125) by server-3.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 21:30:42 -0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Pb19d1dd c=1 sm=0 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:17 a=akDsyBIaq0wA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=SEF7xSSsAAAA:8 a=seIFNVOJEkfXkgrdhFYA:9 a=t3KIFhh9e69bKxKtT3cA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.56.78.150 Received: from [24.56.78.150] ([24.56.78.150:53716] helo=106.Red-80-38-100.staticIP.rima-tde.net) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FD/FD-10702-10052FE4; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:30:42 +0000 Message-ID: <4EF24FF1.1000507@wi.rr.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:30:25 -0600 From: Scott Zupek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> <4EF24CFF.2010703@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF24CFF.2010703@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XCP + RAID X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sorry for the reply and not changing the topic, that was sucky of me. My apologies please. So if software raid, wont hinder performance and since I already have these 4 drives to run Raid, could I boot into Debian Live and run the software raid and install Xen Hypervisor on that? True I don't get the added benefits of the DOM0 w/ XCP, but it's still (once fully configured) a stand alone server that I don't have to worry much about. Unforunately, I thought it was read Raid like the nForce controller, but apparently AMD got me on this one. I just bought the Motherboard and CPU (8 core, but it looks like the DOM0 only detects 5 threads, so maybe I am better off with the 6 core one I have). So to run Xen Hypervisor + XCP(??) to manage, would I still get the same results as running the ISO hypervisor version? (maybe not AS fast)? Thank you for your time. Should I be using a different thread / mailing list for this question? Scott On 12/21/11 3:17 PM, George Shuklin wrote: > > > On 22.12.2011 00:45, Scott Zupek wrote: >> I am re-installing XCP 1.1 via ISO and it looks like it can't find >> the raid controller driver because it's listing all the drives >> individually. >> >> Since I am not very familiar with the Linux side of Raid, do I need >> to download the Linux driver (if there is even one available) and put >> it on a floppy like Windows? >> >> Motherboard = ASUS M5A97EVO >> RAID Controller AMD SB950 chipset >> >> Raid type = 1+0 *aka raid 10 > > First, please, never reply to maillist with new topic, you causing > wrong thread ordering of messages. If you wish to start new topic, > just write it to maillist address. > > Second, there is two issues: > > 1) Don't use fake raid under linux. Linux has perfect software raid, > which much more reliable and much less troublemaking, compare to fake > raid (you device is fake raid, because it don't actually do anything > with drives). > 2) Sad to say, but XCP have very serious issues with raid support. We > using software raid with XCP in our company, but we created very > specifically crafted ISO image with lots ad-hoc fixes and hacks. I > can't recommend do this to anyone, who don't really deep enough in XCP > to do this by himself. > > So, you have to opportunities: > a) use real hardware raid (to get raid array as /dev/sda). > b) Do not use raid in anyway (configure fake raid to HBA mode) - use > external storage and don't bother for XCP system drive. If host die, > no data will be lost. > > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 21:30:59 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:30:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdTkQ-0006nV-2K; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:30:50 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdTkO-0006n5-N2 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:30:48 +0000 X-Env-Sender: scottz@wi.rr.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324503042!6409448!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.74.56.125] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNzEuNzQuNTYuMTI1ID0+IDQzMzgzNA==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6033 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 21:30:42 -0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (HELO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (71.74.56.125) by server-3.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 21:30:42 -0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Pb19d1dd c=1 sm=0 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:17 a=akDsyBIaq0wA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=SEF7xSSsAAAA:8 a=seIFNVOJEkfXkgrdhFYA:9 a=t3KIFhh9e69bKxKtT3cA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.56.78.150 Received: from [24.56.78.150] ([24.56.78.150:53716] helo=106.Red-80-38-100.staticIP.rima-tde.net) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FD/FD-10702-10052FE4; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:30:42 +0000 Message-ID: <4EF24FF1.1000507@wi.rr.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:30:25 -0600 From: Scott Zupek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> <4EF24CFF.2010703@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF24CFF.2010703@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XCP + RAID X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sorry for the reply and not changing the topic, that was sucky of me. My apologies please. So if software raid, wont hinder performance and since I already have these 4 drives to run Raid, could I boot into Debian Live and run the software raid and install Xen Hypervisor on that? True I don't get the added benefits of the DOM0 w/ XCP, but it's still (once fully configured) a stand alone server that I don't have to worry much about. Unforunately, I thought it was read Raid like the nForce controller, but apparently AMD got me on this one. I just bought the Motherboard and CPU (8 core, but it looks like the DOM0 only detects 5 threads, so maybe I am better off with the 6 core one I have). So to run Xen Hypervisor + XCP(??) to manage, would I still get the same results as running the ISO hypervisor version? (maybe not AS fast)? Thank you for your time. Should I be using a different thread / mailing list for this question? Scott On 12/21/11 3:17 PM, George Shuklin wrote: > > > On 22.12.2011 00:45, Scott Zupek wrote: >> I am re-installing XCP 1.1 via ISO and it looks like it can't find >> the raid controller driver because it's listing all the drives >> individually. >> >> Since I am not very familiar with the Linux side of Raid, do I need >> to download the Linux driver (if there is even one available) and put >> it on a floppy like Windows? >> >> Motherboard = ASUS M5A97EVO >> RAID Controller AMD SB950 chipset >> >> Raid type = 1+0 *aka raid 10 > > First, please, never reply to maillist with new topic, you causing > wrong thread ordering of messages. If you wish to start new topic, > just write it to maillist address. > > Second, there is two issues: > > 1) Don't use fake raid under linux. Linux has perfect software raid, > which much more reliable and much less troublemaking, compare to fake > raid (you device is fake raid, because it don't actually do anything > with drives). > 2) Sad to say, but XCP have very serious issues with raid support. We > using software raid with XCP in our company, but we created very > specifically crafted ISO image with lots ad-hoc fixes and hacks. I > can't recommend do this to anyone, who don't really deep enough in XCP > to do this by himself. > > So, you have to opportunities: > a) use real hardware raid (to get raid array as /dev/sda). > b) Do not use raid in anyway (configure fake raid to HBA mode) - use > external storage and don't bother for XCP system drive. If host die, > no data will be lost. > > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 23:24:06 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:24:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdVVs-0007tM-3M; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:23:56 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdVVp-0007tH-UO for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:23:54 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324509705!49252188!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=2.0 required=7.0 tests=SUBJECT_RANDOMQ X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 2194 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 23:21:46 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 23:21:46 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A10FB2805E; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:23:49 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:23:43 +1000 Message-Id: <9412728E-7A2E-45DE-B491-ECBEA8A4777D@ocean.net.au> References: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> To: Scott Zupek X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [XCP][BUG] minor glitch in opaqref data in xenstore X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi Scott, Looks like a thread hijack - sorry George. The onboard SB950 is what is known as a "fakeraid" chip. Because it isn't true hardware raid it doesn't present to the OS as a single device. Don't waste your time trying to use the vendor-supplied linux driver for this chip - there are many problems with this approach, some of them listed here https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/ . I don't know what support exists in the XCP installer for software raid, but it is possible to build a software raid set (RAID1 or mirrored) from an existing single disk provided you have two preferably identical SATA drives. I suspect XCP does support md devices in the installer and its probably just a nomenclature issue and you didn't know what to look for. If the XCP installer doesn't support sotware raid your best bet might be to install XCP on the first disk and then build the raid set after the fact. This link should get you started https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/articles/s/a/t/SATA_RAID_Boot_Recipe_9dc2.html When booting from a raid set you'll need to ensure the md_mod and raid1 (if thats what raid level you want) modules are loaded at boot time. They'll need to be present in your initramfs. GRUB has built in support for booting from software raid. Dave On 22/12/2011, at 6:45 AM, Scott Zupek wrote: > I am re-installing XCP 1.1 via ISO and it looks like it can't find the raid controller driver because it's listing all the drives individually. > > Since I am not very familiar with the Linux side of Raid, do I need to download the Linux driver (if there is even one available) and put it on a floppy like Windows? > > Motherboard = ASUS M5A97EVO > RAID Controller AMD SB950 chipset > > Raid type = 1+0 *aka raid 10 > > > On 12/21/11 9:18 AM, George Shuklin wrote: >> Good day. >> >> Found slightly strange behavior (not really a bug): >> >> XCP 1.1 >> xapi not always clear /xapi/domid/private/vbd/(devicenum) after device unplugging. >> >> Steps to reproduce: >> >> 1. attach device 1 to VM, >> 2. detach it. >> 3. xenstore-ls /xapi/domid/private/vbd >> >> Expected: >> no data about unplugged vbd >> >> Got: >> the unplugged vbd OpaqueRef is still in xenstore. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api >> > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 21 23:24:06 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:24:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdVVs-0007tM-3M; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:23:56 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdVVp-0007tH-UO for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:23:54 +0000 X-Env-Sender: dave.whitla@ocean.net.au X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324509705!49252188!1 X-Originating-IP: [203.206.170.199] X-SpamReason: No, hits=2.0 required=7.0 tests=SUBJECT_RANDOMQ X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 2194 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2011 23:21:46 -0000 Received: from ocean.net.au (HELO mail.ocean.net.au) (203.206.170.199) by server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 23:21:46 -0000 Received: from dwhitla.mil.wotifgroup.com (unknown [49.128.1.246]) (Authenticated sender: dwhitla) by mail.ocean.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A10FB2805E; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:23:49 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Dave Whitla In-Reply-To: <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:23:43 +1000 Message-Id: <9412728E-7A2E-45DE-B491-ECBEA8A4777D@ocean.net.au> References: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> To: Scott Zupek X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] [XCP][BUG] minor glitch in opaqref data in xenstore X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi Scott, Looks like a thread hijack - sorry George. The onboard SB950 is what is known as a "fakeraid" chip. Because it isn't true hardware raid it doesn't present to the OS as a single device. Don't waste your time trying to use the vendor-supplied linux driver for this chip - there are many problems with this approach, some of them listed here https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/ . I don't know what support exists in the XCP installer for software raid, but it is possible to build a software raid set (RAID1 or mirrored) from an existing single disk provided you have two preferably identical SATA drives. I suspect XCP does support md devices in the installer and its probably just a nomenclature issue and you didn't know what to look for. If the XCP installer doesn't support sotware raid your best bet might be to install XCP on the first disk and then build the raid set after the fact. This link should get you started https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/articles/s/a/t/SATA_RAID_Boot_Recipe_9dc2.html When booting from a raid set you'll need to ensure the md_mod and raid1 (if thats what raid level you want) modules are loaded at boot time. They'll need to be present in your initramfs. GRUB has built in support for booting from software raid. Dave On 22/12/2011, at 6:45 AM, Scott Zupek wrote: > I am re-installing XCP 1.1 via ISO and it looks like it can't find the raid controller driver because it's listing all the drives individually. > > Since I am not very familiar with the Linux side of Raid, do I need to download the Linux driver (if there is even one available) and put it on a floppy like Windows? > > Motherboard = ASUS M5A97EVO > RAID Controller AMD SB950 chipset > > Raid type = 1+0 *aka raid 10 > > > On 12/21/11 9:18 AM, George Shuklin wrote: >> Good day. >> >> Found slightly strange behavior (not really a bug): >> >> XCP 1.1 >> xapi not always clear /xapi/domid/private/vbd/(devicenum) after device unplugging. >> >> Steps to reproduce: >> >> 1. attach device 1 to VM, >> 2. detach it. >> 3. xenstore-ls /xapi/domid/private/vbd >> >> Expected: >> no data about unplugged vbd >> >> Got: >> the unplugged vbd OpaqueRef is still in xenstore. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api >> > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 03:01:38 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 03:01:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdYuP-0006MN-C1; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 03:01:29 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdYuO-0006MI-Jz for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 03:01:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: zhouruijin2010@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324522880!8227462!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.216.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21903 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 03:01:21 -0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-qy0-f171.google.com) (209.85.216.171) by server-2.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 03:01:21 -0000 Received: by qcsc20 with SMTP id c20so60953705qcs.30 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:01:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=06IxFJ9MrIGt+PQqxUur9VKiht0a0EfurZLIxJl80Ag=; b=BOVkuVQpifSJBneLnFRg/MdQrhwNDlfceZHuw9jJtenmsHlC1c5gtnyDYNS/7gFU0h fj4GQK2TIiPmvqfYY/WtV2JWmC26/6nZys6JXwce4eI8TdUWnHL9va7ks8RCtr24VV7w XQ3FWo29aCWpgwgmMpwdGiXTDtcim14Zn+xJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.210.130 with SMTP id gk2mr11364913qab.23.1324522880332; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:01:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.50.145 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:01:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:01:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: Ruijin Zhou To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] CrossPoolMigration X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi, Dave, Thanks for your information. It seems that CrossPoolMigratioon is more like a storage management tool than virtual machine itself. Is this the reason you plan to implement it on XCP/Xenserver rather than Xen hypervisor? Right now, I need CrossPoolMigratioon function on Xen so that I can do some research on virtual storage. Is it doable on Xen hypervisor? Or I need some function/API from XCP/Xenserver? My plan is close to this link http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/CrossPoolMigrationv1. Do you have any suggestions? Thank you very much for helping me. -- With warm regards, University of Florida, Ruijin Zhou zhourj@ufl.edu _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 03:01:38 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 03:01:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdYuP-0006MN-C1; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 03:01:29 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdYuO-0006MI-Jz for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 03:01:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: zhouruijin2010@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324522880!8227462!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.216.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 21903 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 03:01:21 -0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-qy0-f171.google.com) (209.85.216.171) by server-2.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 03:01:21 -0000 Received: by qcsc20 with SMTP id c20so60953705qcs.30 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:01:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=06IxFJ9MrIGt+PQqxUur9VKiht0a0EfurZLIxJl80Ag=; b=BOVkuVQpifSJBneLnFRg/MdQrhwNDlfceZHuw9jJtenmsHlC1c5gtnyDYNS/7gFU0h fj4GQK2TIiPmvqfYY/WtV2JWmC26/6nZys6JXwce4eI8TdUWnHL9va7ks8RCtr24VV7w XQ3FWo29aCWpgwgmMpwdGiXTDtcim14Zn+xJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.210.130 with SMTP id gk2mr11364913qab.23.1324522880332; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:01:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.50.145 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:01:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:01:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: Ruijin Zhou To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] CrossPoolMigration X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi, Dave, Thanks for your information. It seems that CrossPoolMigratioon is more like a storage management tool than virtual machine itself. Is this the reason you plan to implement it on XCP/Xenserver rather than Xen hypervisor? Right now, I need CrossPoolMigratioon function on Xen so that I can do some research on virtual storage. Is it doable on Xen hypervisor? Or I need some function/API from XCP/Xenserver? My plan is close to this link http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/CrossPoolMigrationv1. Do you have any suggestions? Thank you very much for helping me. -- With warm regards, University of Florida, Ruijin Zhou zhourj@ufl.edu _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 09:48:09 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:48:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdfFp-0003HJ-DM; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:48:01 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdfFo-0003HD-2p for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:48:00 +0000 X-Env-Sender: medhavini1991@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324547234!51621188!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.2 required=7.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 980 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 09:47:14 -0000 Received: from mail-ey0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-ey0-f171.google.com) (209.85.215.171) by server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 09:47:14 -0000 Received: by eaad11 with SMTP id d11so28813661eaa.30 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:47:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gj9d71YNI/taTL8yRJpd29W+l8m+SFD1OWlIQn8S1hk=; b=bOhneGeiv+c2iwTWIRkeSra7AE1S9yWk33riiISjRkeRhW0x1zcw9isgIy7UxNlU36 obgedCWKvUAyoX6E7mV6/FIGs144i8IFy9BEzC62urjWokOs+FvGgKzskYS3ocRK9b4q PKBBBZyYUt91PO3bGf2EqC6d9L2L0ZymBlu74= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.139.2 with SMTP id iu2mr2886263bkc.128.1324547275334; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:47:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.64.68 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:47:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:17:55 +0530 Message-ID: From: Medhavini Buchade To: xen-api Subject: [Xen-API] Problem regarding Debian Lenny 5.0 installation on XCP X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6908794687753354531==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============6908794687753354531== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6725ad5a49204b4ab316a --000e0cd6725ad5a49204b4ab316a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello everyone, I was trying to install Debian lenny 5.0 VM on XCP 1.0 using vm-install and then using repository http://ftp.debian.org . 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--000e0cd6725ad5a49204b4ab316a-- --===============6908794687753354531== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============6908794687753354531==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 09:48:09 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:48:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdfFp-0003HJ-DM; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:48:01 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdfFo-0003HD-2p for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:48:00 +0000 X-Env-Sender: medhavini1991@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324547234!51621188!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.2 required=7.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 980 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 09:47:14 -0000 Received: from mail-ey0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-ey0-f171.google.com) (209.85.215.171) by server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 09:47:14 -0000 Received: by eaad11 with SMTP id d11so28813661eaa.30 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:47:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gj9d71YNI/taTL8yRJpd29W+l8m+SFD1OWlIQn8S1hk=; b=bOhneGeiv+c2iwTWIRkeSra7AE1S9yWk33riiISjRkeRhW0x1zcw9isgIy7UxNlU36 obgedCWKvUAyoX6E7mV6/FIGs144i8IFy9BEzC62urjWokOs+FvGgKzskYS3ocRK9b4q PKBBBZyYUt91PO3bGf2EqC6d9L2L0ZymBlu74= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.139.2 with SMTP id iu2mr2886263bkc.128.1324547275334; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:47:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.64.68 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:47:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:17:55 +0530 Message-ID: From: Medhavini Buchade To: xen-api Subject: [Xen-API] Problem regarding Debian Lenny 5.0 installation on XCP X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6908794687753354531==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============6908794687753354531== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6725ad5a49204b4ab316a --000e0cd6725ad5a49204b4ab316a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello everyone, I was trying to install Debian lenny 5.0 VM on XCP 1.0 using vm-install and then using repository http://ftp.debian.org . But it is giving me an error as invalid_source and it is unable to access the file vmlinuz. Is there a problem with the debian site or with my XCP?? I even tried using http://ftp.debian.org/debian, but this didnt work as well. Please let me know if I am going wrong somewhere as I am stuck here. --000e0cd6725ad5a49204b4ab316a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--000e0cd6725ad5a49204b4ab316a-- --===============6908794687753354531== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============6908794687753354531==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 09:56:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:56:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdfNc-0003uN-R8; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:56:04 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdfNb-0003u9-Ca for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:56:03 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Dave.Scott@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324547636!49298967!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4Nzk5NA==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1376 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 09:53:56 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 09:53:56 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,392,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9627144" Received: from lonpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 22 Dec 2011 09:56:02 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) with mapi; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:56:01 +0000 From: Dave Scott To: Ruijin Zhou Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:56:00 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] CrossPoolMigration Thread-Index: AczAj+lHEyz+2nqHSZyv36/SYw4p0A== Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] CrossPoolMigration X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi Ruijin, In XCP cross-pool migration definitely requires some extra storage magic, since storage can only be shared within a pool. If you are using vanilla xen then the storage is more under your direct control. This is both good and bad: you have the ultimate in flexibility but you also have to do a lot of stuff yourself. If your research is mostly on the storage datapath then I would recommend you write a tapdisk plugin (like the ones for .vhd support, mirroring etc) and test it by manually setting up a tapdisk device with "tap-ctl". If you would like to present it as "globally shared storage" to lots of hosts/ pools then you could probably write a storage plugin for XCP... As part of the cross pool migrate/ storage migrate I'm working on a version 2 of the XCP storage control interface. I'd like to publish an early draft of an API in the new year, your feedback would be welcome. Cheers, -- Dave Scott On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:03 AM, "Ruijin Zhou" wrote: > Hi, Dave, > > Thanks for your information. > > It seems that CrossPoolMigratioon is more like a storage management > tool than virtual machine itself. Is this the reason you plan to > implement it on XCP/Xenserver rather than Xen hypervisor? > > Right now, I need CrossPoolMigratioon function on Xen so that I can do > some research on virtual storage. Is it doable on Xen hypervisor? Or I > need some function/API from XCP/Xenserver? > > My plan is close to this link http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/CrossPoolMigrationv1. > > Do you have any suggestions? > > Thank you very much for helping me. > > -- > With warm regards, > > University of Florida, > Ruijin Zhou > zhourj@ufl.edu > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 09:56:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:56:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdfNc-0003uN-R8; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:56:04 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdfNb-0003u9-Ca for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:56:03 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Dave.Scott@eu.citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324547636!49298967!1 X-Originating-IP: [62.200.22.115] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjIuMjAwLjIyLjExNSA9PiA4Nzk5NA==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1376 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 09:53:56 -0000 Received: from smtp.ctxuk.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM) (62.200.22.115) by server-14.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 09:53:56 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,392,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="9627144" Received: from lonpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) by LONPIPO01.EU.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 22 Dec 2011 09:56:02 +0000 Received: from LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.30.224.161]) by LONPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.30.203.163]) with mapi; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:56:01 +0000 From: Dave Scott To: Ruijin Zhou Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:56:00 +0000 Thread-Topic: [Xen-API] CrossPoolMigration Thread-Index: AczAj+lHEyz+2nqHSZyv36/SYw4p0A== Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] CrossPoolMigration X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Hi Ruijin, In XCP cross-pool migration definitely requires some extra storage magic, since storage can only be shared within a pool. If you are using vanilla xen then the storage is more under your direct control. This is both good and bad: you have the ultimate in flexibility but you also have to do a lot of stuff yourself. If your research is mostly on the storage datapath then I would recommend you write a tapdisk plugin (like the ones for .vhd support, mirroring etc) and test it by manually setting up a tapdisk device with "tap-ctl". If you would like to present it as "globally shared storage" to lots of hosts/ pools then you could probably write a storage plugin for XCP... As part of the cross pool migrate/ storage migrate I'm working on a version 2 of the XCP storage control interface. I'd like to publish an early draft of an API in the new year, your feedback would be welcome. Cheers, -- Dave Scott On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:03 AM, "Ruijin Zhou" wrote: > Hi, Dave, > > Thanks for your information. > > It seems that CrossPoolMigratioon is more like a storage management > tool than virtual machine itself. Is this the reason you plan to > implement it on XCP/Xenserver rather than Xen hypervisor? > > Right now, I need CrossPoolMigratioon function on Xen so that I can do > some research on virtual storage. Is it doable on Xen hypervisor? Or I > need some function/API from XCP/Xenserver? > > My plan is close to this link http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/CrossPoolMigrationv1. > > Do you have any suggestions? > > Thank you very much for helping me. > > -- > With warm regards, > > University of Florida, > Ruijin Zhou > zhourj@ufl.edu > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 10:57:38 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:57:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdgL4-0001qF-Mx; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:57:30 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdgL2-0001pJ-Ld for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:57:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324551441!7829402!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMTA2MTI=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1131 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 10:57:22 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-13.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 10:57:22 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,392,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="20217222" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 22 Dec 2011 05:57:21 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 05:57:20 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF30D0F.6050804@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:57:19 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Medhavini Buchade References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: xen-api Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Problem regarding Debian Lenny 5.0 installation on XCP X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 22/12/11 09:47, Medhavini Buchade wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I was trying to install Debian lenny 5.0 VM on XCP 1.0 using vm-install > and then using repository http://ftp.debian.org > . But it is giving me an error as > invalid_source and it is unable to access the file vmlinuz. > Is there a problem with the debian site or with my XCP?? I even tried > using http://ftp.debian.org/debian, but this didnt work as well. > > Please let me know if I am going wrong somewhere as I am stuck here. Hi Medhavini, http://ftp.debian.org/debian should be the right repository. Try doing a 'xe vm-uninstall' on your vm, and then start over with the right repository url. If you still have problems, please post the exact error messages here. Don't just say "this didn't work." Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 10:57:38 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:57:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdgL4-0001qF-Mx; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:57:30 +0000 Received: from mail216.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.99]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdgL2-0001pJ-Ld for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:57:28 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1324551441!7829402!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.89] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni44OSA9PiAxMTA2MTI=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1131 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 10:57:22 -0000 Received: from smtp.citrix.com (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by server-13.tower-216.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 10:57:22 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,392,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="20217222" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 22 Dec 2011 05:57:21 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 05:57:20 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF30D0F.6050804@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:57:19 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Medhavini Buchade References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: xen-api Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Problem regarding Debian Lenny 5.0 installation on XCP X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 22/12/11 09:47, Medhavini Buchade wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I was trying to install Debian lenny 5.0 VM on XCP 1.0 using vm-install > and then using repository http://ftp.debian.org > . But it is giving me an error as > invalid_source and it is unable to access the file vmlinuz. > Is there a problem with the debian site or with my XCP?? I even tried > using http://ftp.debian.org/debian, but this didnt work as well. > > Please let me know if I am going wrong somewhere as I am stuck here. Hi Medhavini, http://ftp.debian.org/debian should be the right repository. Try doing a 'xe vm-uninstall' on your vm, and then start over with the right repository url. If you still have problems, please post the exact error messages here. Don't just say "this didn't work." Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 11:27:21 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:27:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdgnq-0002oi-EX; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:27:14 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdgnp-0002oE-7c for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:27:13 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324553225!6515137!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjUxOTM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1237 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 11:27:07 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-2.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 11:27:07 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,392,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="175141015" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 22 Dec 2011 06:27:05 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:27:05 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF31408.8040200@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:27:04 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Marples References: <4EF1B3F6.1050309@marples.net> In-Reply-To: <4EF1B3F6.1050309@marples.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] xcp-guest-templates deb install error X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 21/12/11 10:24, Dave Marples wrote: > Hi folks, > > Just did an apt-get update to the latest version and got the following > error; > > Setting up xcp-guest-templates (0.1-3) ... > touch: cannot touch `/usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/CREATE_TEMPLATES_STAMP': > No such file or directory > dpkg: error processing xcp-guest-templates (--configure): > subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 > configured to not write apport reports > Errors were encountered while processing: > xcp-guest-templates > > mkdir /usr/lib/xen-common/xapi fixes the issue. > Thanks for reporting that, Dave. The postinst script that tried to touch that file should have been removed a week or two ago, but wasn't. I've fixed the issue, and will create a new xcp-guest-template deb in our xen.org debian archive. Should be there in an hour or so. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 11:27:21 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:27:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdgnq-0002oi-EX; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:27:14 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdgnp-0002oE-7c for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:27:13 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324553225!6515137!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjUxOTM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1237 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 11:27:07 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-2.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 11:27:07 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,392,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="175141015" Received: from ftlpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.13.107.65]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 22 Dec 2011 06:27:05 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:27:05 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF31408.8040200@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:27:04 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Marples References: <4EF1B3F6.1050309@marples.net> In-Reply-To: <4EF1B3F6.1050309@marples.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] xcp-guest-templates deb install error X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On 21/12/11 10:24, Dave Marples wrote: > Hi folks, > > Just did an apt-get update to the latest version and got the following > error; > > Setting up xcp-guest-templates (0.1-3) ... > touch: cannot touch `/usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/CREATE_TEMPLATES_STAMP': > No such file or directory > dpkg: error processing xcp-guest-templates (--configure): > subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 > configured to not write apport reports > Errors were encountered while processing: > xcp-guest-templates > > mkdir /usr/lib/xen-common/xapi fixes the issue. > Thanks for reporting that, Dave. The postinst script that tried to touch that file should have been removed a week or two ago, but wasn't. I've fixed the issue, and will create a new xcp-guest-template deb in our xen.org debian archive. Should be there in an hour or so. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 11:45:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:45:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdh5E-0003hy-KL; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:45:12 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdh5D-0003hq-Ay for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:45:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324554303!6518039!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjUxOTM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6212 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 11:45:04 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-2.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 11:45:04 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,392,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="175142320" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 22 Dec 2011 06:45:02 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:45:02 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF3183D.5030206@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:45:01 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Marples References: <4EF1B3F6.1050309@marples.net> <4EF31408.8040200@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF31408.8040200@citrix.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] xcp-guest-templates deb install error X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com > Thanks for reporting that, Dave. The postinst script that tried to touch > that file should have been removed a week or two ago, but wasn't. I've > fixed the issue, and will create a new xcp-guest-template deb in our > xen.org debian archive. Should be there in an hour or so. > Okay, Jon improved our build system more than I thought he had ;) The new package is built now and uploaded to our debian archive. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 11:45:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:45:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdh5E-0003hy-KL; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:45:12 +0000 Received: from mail174.messagelabs.com ([85.158.138.51]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdh5D-0003hq-Ay for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:45:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: mike.mcclurg@citrix.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1324554303!6518039!1 X-Originating-IP: [66.165.176.63] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNjYuMTY1LjE3Ni42MyA9PiAyMjUxOTM=\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 6212 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 11:45:04 -0000 Received: from smtp02.citrix.com (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by server-2.tower-174.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 11:45:04 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,392,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="175142320" Received: from ftlpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.13.107.66]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 22 Dec 2011 06:45:02 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.80.16.67) by smtprelay.citrix.com (10.13.107.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:45:02 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF3183D.5030206@citrix.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:45:01 +0000 From: Mike McClurg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Marples References: <4EF1B3F6.1050309@marples.net> <4EF31408.8040200@citrix.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF31408.8040200@citrix.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] xcp-guest-templates deb install error X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com > Thanks for reporting that, Dave. The postinst script that tried to touch > that file should have been removed a week or two ago, but wasn't. I've > fixed the issue, and will create a new xcp-guest-template deb in our > xen.org debian archive. Should be there in an hour or so. > Okay, Jon improved our build system more than I thought he had ;) The new package is built now and uploaded to our debian archive. Mike _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 13:33:20 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:33:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdiln-00086O-JU; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:33:15 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdill-000862-G0 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:33:13 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1324560787!2981501!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.83.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 2989 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 13:33:07 -0000 Received: from mail-ee0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-ee0-f43.google.com) (74.125.83.43) by server-9.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 13:33:07 -0000 Received: by eekd4 with SMTP id d4so41465099eek.30 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 05:33:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GC7+xJ3HVSy+obhSI/GeznyFdgeq2NZFrMINBOpebgk=; b=a68W9HlMjMTfw3Zdp2LC8t+7Mer+ja6V6upBoaI0POc8AS3Y/rEutYXIcWCkCL1I9T mNw19hzaw4tgkN5S1vPxTMyHSr30bpIIl3OuK+km3xtTWq43rBNAsnDOomnMW5BzCeI4 EyiGCTgz3fbuxyqQpm6+7QhgIlgLFFR+dZD6Q= Received: by 10.14.32.211 with SMTP id o59mr4196170eea.118.1324560786526; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 05:33:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.40.44] (officecvt.selectel.ru. [188.93.16.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a60sm34201247eeb.4.2011.12.22.05.33.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 22 Dec 2011 05:33:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EF3318F.8040601@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:33:03 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111215 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> <4EF24CFF.2010703@gmail.com> <4EF24FF1.1000507@wi.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF24FF1.1000507@wi.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XCP + RAID X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com You will not gain any performance boost with fake raid - it offload all operations on host, this is exactly same as normal software raid. The single reason fakeraid exists is 'faking' raid existence for windows, may version of it does not support mirroring (all desktops windows, f.e.). It have no meaning for linux. Anyway, I can say one thing: don't do this. Any lowlevel manipulation with 'fakeraid' and XCP will make you getting a nasty problems you will need to fix by yourself (without community help). If you playing with XCP - turn 'raid' to 'hba' (sata ahci) in bios and use a single drive. If you wants to use this in product - think about proper hardware. nForce is NOT A SERVER solution. PS XCP supports up to 32 cores, so 8 core shall works fine. On 22.12.2011 01:30, Scott Zupek wrote: > Sorry for the reply and not changing the topic, that was sucky of me. > My apologies please. > > So if software raid, wont hinder performance and since I already have > these 4 drives to run Raid, could I boot into Debian Live and run the > software raid and install Xen Hypervisor on that? True I don't get > the added benefits of the DOM0 w/ XCP, but it's still (once fully > configured) a stand alone server that I don't have to worry much about. > > Unforunately, I thought it was read Raid like the nForce controller, > but apparently AMD got me on this one. I just bought the Motherboard > and CPU (8 core, but it looks like the DOM0 only detects 5 threads, so > maybe I am better off with the 6 core one I have). > > So to run Xen Hypervisor + XCP(??) to manage, would I still get the > same results as running the ISO hypervisor version? (maybe not AS fast)? > > Thank you for your time. Should I be using a different thread / > mailing list for this question? > > Scott > > > > > On 12/21/11 3:17 PM, George Shuklin wrote: >> >> >> On 22.12.2011 00:45, Scott Zupek wrote: >>> I am re-installing XCP 1.1 via ISO and it looks like it can't find >>> the raid controller driver because it's listing all the drives >>> individually. >>> >>> Since I am not very familiar with the Linux side of Raid, do I need >>> to download the Linux driver (if there is even one available) and >>> put it on a floppy like Windows? >>> >>> Motherboard = ASUS M5A97EVO >>> RAID Controller AMD SB950 chipset >>> >>> Raid type = 1+0 *aka raid 10 >> >> First, please, never reply to maillist with new topic, you causing >> wrong thread ordering of messages. If you wish to start new topic, >> just write it to maillist address. >> >> Second, there is two issues: >> >> 1) Don't use fake raid under linux. Linux has perfect software raid, >> which much more reliable and much less troublemaking, compare to fake >> raid (you device is fake raid, because it don't actually do anything >> with drives). >> 2) Sad to say, but XCP have very serious issues with raid support. We >> using software raid with XCP in our company, but we created very >> specifically crafted ISO image with lots ad-hoc fixes and hacks. I >> can't recommend do this to anyone, who don't really deep enough in >> XCP to do this by himself. >> >> So, you have to opportunities: >> a) use real hardware raid (to get raid array as /dev/sda). >> b) Do not use raid in anyway (configure fake raid to HBA mode) - use >> external storage and don't bother for XCP system drive. If host die, >> no data will be lost. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api >> > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 13:33:20 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:33:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdiln-00086O-JU; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:33:15 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdill-000862-G0 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:33:13 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1324560787!2981501!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.83.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 2989 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 13:33:07 -0000 Received: from mail-ee0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-ee0-f43.google.com) (74.125.83.43) by server-9.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 13:33:07 -0000 Received: by eekd4 with SMTP id d4so41465099eek.30 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 05:33:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GC7+xJ3HVSy+obhSI/GeznyFdgeq2NZFrMINBOpebgk=; b=a68W9HlMjMTfw3Zdp2LC8t+7Mer+ja6V6upBoaI0POc8AS3Y/rEutYXIcWCkCL1I9T mNw19hzaw4tgkN5S1vPxTMyHSr30bpIIl3OuK+km3xtTWq43rBNAsnDOomnMW5BzCeI4 EyiGCTgz3fbuxyqQpm6+7QhgIlgLFFR+dZD6Q= Received: by 10.14.32.211 with SMTP id o59mr4196170eea.118.1324560786526; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 05:33:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.40.44] (officecvt.selectel.ru. [188.93.16.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a60sm34201247eeb.4.2011.12.22.05.33.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 22 Dec 2011 05:33:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EF3318F.8040601@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:33:03 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111215 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> <4EF24CFF.2010703@gmail.com> <4EF24FF1.1000507@wi.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF24FF1.1000507@wi.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XCP + RAID X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com You will not gain any performance boost with fake raid - it offload all operations on host, this is exactly same as normal software raid. The single reason fakeraid exists is 'faking' raid existence for windows, may version of it does not support mirroring (all desktops windows, f.e.). It have no meaning for linux. Anyway, I can say one thing: don't do this. Any lowlevel manipulation with 'fakeraid' and XCP will make you getting a nasty problems you will need to fix by yourself (without community help). If you playing with XCP - turn 'raid' to 'hba' (sata ahci) in bios and use a single drive. If you wants to use this in product - think about proper hardware. nForce is NOT A SERVER solution. PS XCP supports up to 32 cores, so 8 core shall works fine. On 22.12.2011 01:30, Scott Zupek wrote: > Sorry for the reply and not changing the topic, that was sucky of me. > My apologies please. > > So if software raid, wont hinder performance and since I already have > these 4 drives to run Raid, could I boot into Debian Live and run the > software raid and install Xen Hypervisor on that? True I don't get > the added benefits of the DOM0 w/ XCP, but it's still (once fully > configured) a stand alone server that I don't have to worry much about. > > Unforunately, I thought it was read Raid like the nForce controller, > but apparently AMD got me on this one. I just bought the Motherboard > and CPU (8 core, but it looks like the DOM0 only detects 5 threads, so > maybe I am better off with the 6 core one I have). > > So to run Xen Hypervisor + XCP(??) to manage, would I still get the > same results as running the ISO hypervisor version? (maybe not AS fast)? > > Thank you for your time. Should I be using a different thread / > mailing list for this question? > > Scott > > > > > On 12/21/11 3:17 PM, George Shuklin wrote: >> >> >> On 22.12.2011 00:45, Scott Zupek wrote: >>> I am re-installing XCP 1.1 via ISO and it looks like it can't find >>> the raid controller driver because it's listing all the drives >>> individually. >>> >>> Since I am not very familiar with the Linux side of Raid, do I need >>> to download the Linux driver (if there is even one available) and >>> put it on a floppy like Windows? >>> >>> Motherboard = ASUS M5A97EVO >>> RAID Controller AMD SB950 chipset >>> >>> Raid type = 1+0 *aka raid 10 >> >> First, please, never reply to maillist with new topic, you causing >> wrong thread ordering of messages. If you wish to start new topic, >> just write it to maillist address. >> >> Second, there is two issues: >> >> 1) Don't use fake raid under linux. Linux has perfect software raid, >> which much more reliable and much less troublemaking, compare to fake >> raid (you device is fake raid, because it don't actually do anything >> with drives). >> 2) Sad to say, but XCP have very serious issues with raid support. We >> using software raid with XCP in our company, but we created very >> specifically crafted ISO image with lots ad-hoc fixes and hacks. I >> can't recommend do this to anyone, who don't really deep enough in >> XCP to do this by himself. >> >> So, you have to opportunities: >> a) use real hardware raid (to get raid array as /dev/sda). >> b) Do not use raid in anyway (configure fake raid to HBA mode) - use >> external storage and don't bother for XCP system drive. If host die, >> no data will be lost. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api >> > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 21:32:42 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:32:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdqFd-0008GL-NZ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:32:33 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdqFb-0008GG-Q5 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:32:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: scottz@wi.rr.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1324589313!9015304!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.74.56.122] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNzEuNzQuNTYuMTIyID0+IDM5NDYzNA==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1103 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 21:28:34 -0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (HELO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (71.74.56.122) by server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 21:28:34 -0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=SqgSGYy0 c=1 sm=0 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:17 a=akDsyBIaq0wA:10 a=SEF7xSSsAAAA:8 a=93KbOpnUJn48bTVpNpgA:9 a=J-ToZWHBELbCCeZFjXYA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=pl5MlD7SMk-C0hu1:21 a=-P5CC6dv5zY9pu7_:21 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=0g37hNH0vwEVbiFXhhoA:9 a=-HKkjXBMxZO6mJ0ludIA:7 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.56.78.150 Received: from [24.56.78.150] ([24.56.78.150:49436] helo=106.Red-80-38-100.staticIP.rima-tde.net) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 6C/3B-23543-001A3FE4; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:28:32 +0000 Message-ID: <4EF3A0F1.6090606@wi.rr.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:28:17 -0600 From: Scott Zupek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> <4EF24CFF.2010703@gmail.com> <4EF24FF1.1000507@wi.rr.com> <4EF3318F.8040601@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF3318F.8040601@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XCP + RAID X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7420766419726625639==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7420766419726625639== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020905000609080009060409" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020905000609080009060409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 12/22/11 7:33 AM, George Shuklin wrote: > You will not gain any performance boost with fake raid - it offload > all operations on host, this is exactly same as normal software raid. > The single reason fakeraid exists is 'faking' raid existence for > windows, may version of it does not support mirroring (all desktops > windows, f.e.). It have no meaning for linux. \ *Your point was understood the first time, no fake raid. Got it.* > > Anyway, I can say one thing: don't do this. Any lowlevel manipulation > with 'fakeraid' and XCP will make you getting a nasty problems you > will need to fix by yourself (without community help). > > If you playing with XCP - turn 'raid' to 'hba' (sata ahci) in bios and > use a single drive. *At this point I am trying to install Debian on a software raid but I can't get the darn thing to bootup. Raid has been turned off and all 4 SATA3 drives are set to ACHI mode. Grub is a nightmare and apparently "mdm raid" software is the way to go. I have been trying to get this to work for a few days now.* > > If you wants to use this in product - think about proper hardware. > nForce is NOT A SERVER solution. * I completely understand the nForce is NOT a server solution, but in all reality, this is 1 server hosting 3 or maybe 4 servers for my I.T. consulting company. I don't need top of the line performance so I don't need the 1000+ USD raid cards. nForce has yet to fail me and I am not runnign a data center, so those speed differences are negotiable. nForce is still a hardware solution, but moreso geared towards high end users/workstations. Regardless I gave up on the hardware raid as that system board didn't support AM3+. I understand that I am between a home user and a business class/enterprise user. That's why I am trying to get Xen Hypervisor and XCP to work correctly. :) * > PS XCP supports up to 32 cores, so 8 core shall works fine. * That is actually great to know. Thank you. It sounds like I'll have to get XCP to work with Xen Hypervisor running on top Debian (with DOM0 kernel). Since it's not as easy as the XCP ISO/Hypervisor, hopefully I can get it to a manageable state using XenCenter. speaking of, is there a "better"/more unified management tool beyond XenCenter? I don't want management to be complicated, I am just curious. Thank you for the help/responses. This is all new techology(software wise) to me and I love learning as I go. I apologize if I am filling the mailing list with off topic material. Since it all goes back to XCP-API I thought it might pertain.* Scott > > On 22.12.2011 01:30, Scott Zupek wrote: >> Sorry for the reply and not changing the topic, that was sucky of >> me. My apologies please. >> >> So if software raid, wont hinder performance and since I already have >> these 4 drives to run Raid, could I boot into Debian Live and run the >> software raid and install Xen Hypervisor on that? True I don't get >> the added benefits of the DOM0 w/ XCP, but it's still (once fully >> configured) a stand alone server that I don't have to worry much about. >> >> Unforunately, I thought it was read Raid like the nForce controller, >> but apparently AMD got me on this one. I just bought the Motherboard >> and CPU (8 core, but it looks like the DOM0 only detects 5 threads, >> so maybe I am better off with the 6 core one I have). >> >> So to run Xen Hypervisor + XCP(??) to manage, would I still get the >> same results as running the ISO hypervisor version? (maybe not AS fast)? >> >> Thank you for your time. Should I be using a different thread / >> mailing list for this question? >> >> Scott >> >> >> >> >> On 12/21/11 3:17 PM, George Shuklin wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 22.12.2011 00:45, Scott Zupek wrote: >>>> I am re-installing XCP 1.1 via ISO and it looks like it can't find >>>> the raid controller driver because it's listing all the drives >>>> individually. >>>> >>>> Since I am not very familiar with the Linux side of Raid, do I need >>>> to download the Linux driver (if there is even one available) and >>>> put it on a floppy like Windows? >>>> >>>> Motherboard = ASUS M5A97EVO >>>> RAID Controller AMD SB950 chipset >>>> >>>> Raid type = 1+0 *aka raid 10 >>> >>> First, please, never reply to maillist with new topic, you causing >>> wrong thread ordering of messages. If you wish to start new topic, >>> just write it to maillist address. >>> >>> Second, there is two issues: >>> >>> 1) Don't use fake raid under linux. Linux has perfect software raid, >>> which much more reliable and much less troublemaking, compare to >>> fake raid (you device is fake raid, because it don't actually do >>> anything with drives). >>> 2) Sad to say, but XCP have very serious issues with raid support. >>> We using software raid with XCP in our company, but we created very >>> specifically crafted ISO image with lots ad-hoc fixes and hacks. I >>> can't recommend do this to anyone, who don't really deep enough in >>> XCP to do this by himself. >>> >>> So, you have to opportunities: >>> a) use real hardware raid (to get raid array as /dev/sda). >>> b) Do not use raid in anyway (configure fake raid to HBA mode) - use >>> external storage and don't bother for XCP system drive. If host die, >>> no data will be lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xen-api mailing list >>> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >>> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > --------------020905000609080009060409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 12/22/11 7:33 AM, George Shuklin wrote:
You will not gain any performance boost with fake raid - it offload all operations on host, this is exactly same as normal software raid. The single reason fakeraid exists is 'faking' raid existence for windows, may version of it does not support mirroring (all desktops windows, f.e.). It have no meaning for linux. \
Your point was understood the first time, no fake raid. Got it.

Anyway, I can say one thing: don't do this. Any lowlevel manipulation with 'fakeraid' and XCP will make you getting a nasty problems you will need to fix by yourself (without community help).

If you playing with XCP - turn 'raid' to 'hba' (sata ahci) in bios and use a single drive.
At this point I am trying to install Debian on a software raid but I can't get the darn thing to bootup. Raid has been turned off and all 4 SATA3 drives are set to ACHI mode.  Grub is a nightmare and apparently "mdm raid" software is the way to go. I have been trying to get this to work for a few days now.

If you wants to use this in product - think about proper hardware. nForce is NOT A SERVER solution.

I completely understand the nForce is NOT a server solution, but in all reality, this is 1 server hosting 3 or maybe 4 servers for my I.T. consulting company. I don't need top of the line performance so I don't need the 1000+ USD raid cards. nForce has yet to fail me and I am not runnign a data center, so those speed differences are negotiable. nForce is still a hardware solution, but moreso geared towards high end users/workstations.  Regardless I gave up on the hardware raid as that system board didn't support AM3+.  I understand that I am between a home user and a business class/enterprise user.  That's why I am trying to get Xen Hypervisor and XCP to work correctly. :)

PS XCP supports up to 32 cores, so 8 core shall works fine.

That is actually great to know.  Thank you.  It sounds like I'll have to get XCP to work with Xen Hypervisor running on top  Debian (with DOM0 kernel).  Since it's not as easy as the XCP ISO/Hypervisor, hopefully I can get it to a manageable state using XenCenter.  speaking of, is there a "better"/more unified management tool beyond XenCenter? I don't want management to be complicated, I am just curious.

Thank you for the help/responses.  This is all new techology(software wise) to me and I love learning as I go. I apologize if I am filling the mailing list with off topic material.  Since it all goes back to XCP-API I thought it might pertain.

Scott


On 22.12.2011 01:30, Scott Zupek wrote:
Sorry for the reply and not changing the topic, that was sucky of me.  My apologies please.

So if software raid, wont hinder performance and since I already have these 4 drives to run Raid, could I boot into Debian Live and run the software raid and install Xen Hypervisor on that?  True I don't get the added benefits of the DOM0 w/ XCP, but it's still (once fully configured) a stand alone server that I don't have to worry much about.

Unforunately, I thought it was read Raid like the nForce controller, but apparently AMD got me on this one. I just bought the Motherboard and CPU (8 core, but it looks like the DOM0 only detects 5 threads, so maybe I am better off with the 6 core one I have).

So to run Xen Hypervisor + XCP(??) to manage, would I still get the same results as running the ISO hypervisor version? (maybe not AS fast)?

Thank you for your time. Should I be using a different thread / mailing list for this question?

Scott




On 12/21/11 3:17 PM, George Shuklin wrote:


On 22.12.2011 00:45, Scott Zupek wrote:
I am re-installing XCP 1.1 via ISO and it looks like it can't find the raid controller driver because it's listing all the drives individually.

Since I am not very familiar with the Linux side of Raid, do I need to download the Linux driver (if there is even one available) and put it on a floppy like Windows?

Motherboard = ASUS M5A97EVO
RAID Controller AMD SB950 chipset

Raid type = 1+0 *aka raid 10

First, please, never reply to maillist with new topic, you causing wrong thread ordering of messages. If you wish to start new topic, just write it to maillist address.

Second, there is two issues:

1) Don't use fake raid under linux. Linux has perfect software raid, which much more reliable and much less troublemaking, compare to fake raid (you device is fake raid, because it don't actually do anything with drives).
2) Sad to say, but XCP have very serious issues with raid support. We using software raid with XCP in our company, but we created very specifically crafted ISO image with lots ad-hoc fixes and hacks. I can't recommend do this to anyone, who don't really deep enough in XCP to do this by himself.

So, you have to opportunities:
a) use real hardware raid (to get raid array as  /dev/sda).
b) Do not use raid in anyway (configure fake raid to HBA mode) - use external storage and don't bother for XCP system drive. If host die, no data will be lost.



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--------------020905000609080009060409-- --===============7420766419726625639== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============7420766419726625639==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 21:32:42 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:32:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdqFd-0008GL-NZ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:32:33 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdqFb-0008GG-Q5 for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:32:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: scottz@wi.rr.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1324589313!9015304!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.74.56.122] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNzEuNzQuNTYuMTIyID0+IDM5NDYzNA==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1103 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 21:28:34 -0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (HELO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (71.74.56.122) by server-10.tower-21.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 21:28:34 -0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=SqgSGYy0 c=1 sm=0 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:17 a=akDsyBIaq0wA:10 a=SEF7xSSsAAAA:8 a=93KbOpnUJn48bTVpNpgA:9 a=J-ToZWHBELbCCeZFjXYA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=pl5MlD7SMk-C0hu1:21 a=-P5CC6dv5zY9pu7_:21 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=0g37hNH0vwEVbiFXhhoA:9 a=-HKkjXBMxZO6mJ0ludIA:7 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.56.78.150 Received: from [24.56.78.150] ([24.56.78.150:49436] helo=106.Red-80-38-100.staticIP.rima-tde.net) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 6C/3B-23543-001A3FE4; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:28:32 +0000 Message-ID: <4EF3A0F1.6090606@wi.rr.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:28:17 -0600 From: Scott Zupek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> <4EF24CFF.2010703@gmail.com> <4EF24FF1.1000507@wi.rr.com> <4EF3318F.8040601@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF3318F.8040601@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XCP + RAID X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7420766419726625639==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7420766419726625639== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020905000609080009060409" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020905000609080009060409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 12/22/11 7:33 AM, George Shuklin wrote: > You will not gain any performance boost with fake raid - it offload > all operations on host, this is exactly same as normal software raid. > The single reason fakeraid exists is 'faking' raid existence for > windows, may version of it does not support mirroring (all desktops > windows, f.e.). It have no meaning for linux. \ *Your point was understood the first time, no fake raid. Got it.* > > Anyway, I can say one thing: don't do this. Any lowlevel manipulation > with 'fakeraid' and XCP will make you getting a nasty problems you > will need to fix by yourself (without community help). > > If you playing with XCP - turn 'raid' to 'hba' (sata ahci) in bios and > use a single drive. *At this point I am trying to install Debian on a software raid but I can't get the darn thing to bootup. Raid has been turned off and all 4 SATA3 drives are set to ACHI mode. Grub is a nightmare and apparently "mdm raid" software is the way to go. I have been trying to get this to work for a few days now.* > > If you wants to use this in product - think about proper hardware. > nForce is NOT A SERVER solution. * I completely understand the nForce is NOT a server solution, but in all reality, this is 1 server hosting 3 or maybe 4 servers for my I.T. consulting company. I don't need top of the line performance so I don't need the 1000+ USD raid cards. nForce has yet to fail me and I am not runnign a data center, so those speed differences are negotiable. nForce is still a hardware solution, but moreso geared towards high end users/workstations. Regardless I gave up on the hardware raid as that system board didn't support AM3+. I understand that I am between a home user and a business class/enterprise user. That's why I am trying to get Xen Hypervisor and XCP to work correctly. :) * > PS XCP supports up to 32 cores, so 8 core shall works fine. * That is actually great to know. Thank you. It sounds like I'll have to get XCP to work with Xen Hypervisor running on top Debian (with DOM0 kernel). Since it's not as easy as the XCP ISO/Hypervisor, hopefully I can get it to a manageable state using XenCenter. speaking of, is there a "better"/more unified management tool beyond XenCenter? I don't want management to be complicated, I am just curious. Thank you for the help/responses. This is all new techology(software wise) to me and I love learning as I go. I apologize if I am filling the mailing list with off topic material. Since it all goes back to XCP-API I thought it might pertain.* Scott > > On 22.12.2011 01:30, Scott Zupek wrote: >> Sorry for the reply and not changing the topic, that was sucky of >> me. My apologies please. >> >> So if software raid, wont hinder performance and since I already have >> these 4 drives to run Raid, could I boot into Debian Live and run the >> software raid and install Xen Hypervisor on that? True I don't get >> the added benefits of the DOM0 w/ XCP, but it's still (once fully >> configured) a stand alone server that I don't have to worry much about. >> >> Unforunately, I thought it was read Raid like the nForce controller, >> but apparently AMD got me on this one. I just bought the Motherboard >> and CPU (8 core, but it looks like the DOM0 only detects 5 threads, >> so maybe I am better off with the 6 core one I have). >> >> So to run Xen Hypervisor + XCP(??) to manage, would I still get the >> same results as running the ISO hypervisor version? (maybe not AS fast)? >> >> Thank you for your time. Should I be using a different thread / >> mailing list for this question? >> >> Scott >> >> >> >> >> On 12/21/11 3:17 PM, George Shuklin wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 22.12.2011 00:45, Scott Zupek wrote: >>>> I am re-installing XCP 1.1 via ISO and it looks like it can't find >>>> the raid controller driver because it's listing all the drives >>>> individually. >>>> >>>> Since I am not very familiar with the Linux side of Raid, do I need >>>> to download the Linux driver (if there is even one available) and >>>> put it on a floppy like Windows? >>>> >>>> Motherboard = ASUS M5A97EVO >>>> RAID Controller AMD SB950 chipset >>>> >>>> Raid type = 1+0 *aka raid 10 >>> >>> First, please, never reply to maillist with new topic, you causing >>> wrong thread ordering of messages. If you wish to start new topic, >>> just write it to maillist address. >>> >>> Second, there is two issues: >>> >>> 1) Don't use fake raid under linux. Linux has perfect software raid, >>> which much more reliable and much less troublemaking, compare to >>> fake raid (you device is fake raid, because it don't actually do >>> anything with drives). >>> 2) Sad to say, but XCP have very serious issues with raid support. >>> We using software raid with XCP in our company, but we created very >>> specifically crafted ISO image with lots ad-hoc fixes and hacks. I >>> can't recommend do this to anyone, who don't really deep enough in >>> XCP to do this by himself. >>> >>> So, you have to opportunities: >>> a) use real hardware raid (to get raid array as /dev/sda). >>> b) Do not use raid in anyway (configure fake raid to HBA mode) - use >>> external storage and don't bother for XCP system drive. If host die, >>> no data will be lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xen-api mailing list >>> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >>> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-api mailing list >> xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > --------------020905000609080009060409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 12/22/11 7:33 AM, George Shuklin wrote:
You will not gain any performance boost with fake raid - it offload all operations on host, this is exactly same as normal software raid. The single reason fakeraid exists is 'faking' raid existence for windows, may version of it does not support mirroring (all desktops windows, f.e.). It have no meaning for linux. \
Your point was understood the first time, no fake raid. Got it.

Anyway, I can say one thing: don't do this. Any lowlevel manipulation with 'fakeraid' and XCP will make you getting a nasty problems you will need to fix by yourself (without community help).

If you playing with XCP - turn 'raid' to 'hba' (sata ahci) in bios and use a single drive.
At this point I am trying to install Debian on a software raid but I can't get the darn thing to bootup. Raid has been turned off and all 4 SATA3 drives are set to ACHI mode.  Grub is a nightmare and apparently "mdm raid" software is the way to go. I have been trying to get this to work for a few days now.

If you wants to use this in product - think about proper hardware. nForce is NOT A SERVER solution.

I completely understand the nForce is NOT a server solution, but in all reality, this is 1 server hosting 3 or maybe 4 servers for my I.T. consulting company. I don't need top of the line performance so I don't need the 1000+ USD raid cards. nForce has yet to fail me and I am not runnign a data center, so those speed differences are negotiable. nForce is still a hardware solution, but moreso geared towards high end users/workstations.  Regardless I gave up on the hardware raid as that system board didn't support AM3+.  I understand that I am between a home user and a business class/enterprise user.  That's why I am trying to get Xen Hypervisor and XCP to work correctly. :)

PS XCP supports up to 32 cores, so 8 core shall works fine.

That is actually great to know.  Thank you.  It sounds like I'll have to get XCP to work with Xen Hypervisor running on top  Debian (with DOM0 kernel).  Since it's not as easy as the XCP ISO/Hypervisor, hopefully I can get it to a manageable state using XenCenter.  speaking of, is there a "better"/more unified management tool beyond XenCenter? I don't want management to be complicated, I am just curious.

Thank you for the help/responses.  This is all new techology(software wise) to me and I love learning as I go. I apologize if I am filling the mailing list with off topic material.  Since it all goes back to XCP-API I thought it might pertain.

Scott


On 22.12.2011 01:30, Scott Zupek wrote:
Sorry for the reply and not changing the topic, that was sucky of me.  My apologies please.

So if software raid, wont hinder performance and since I already have these 4 drives to run Raid, could I boot into Debian Live and run the software raid and install Xen Hypervisor on that?  True I don't get the added benefits of the DOM0 w/ XCP, but it's still (once fully configured) a stand alone server that I don't have to worry much about.

Unforunately, I thought it was read Raid like the nForce controller, but apparently AMD got me on this one. I just bought the Motherboard and CPU (8 core, but it looks like the DOM0 only detects 5 threads, so maybe I am better off with the 6 core one I have).

So to run Xen Hypervisor + XCP(??) to manage, would I still get the same results as running the ISO hypervisor version? (maybe not AS fast)?

Thank you for your time. Should I be using a different thread / mailing list for this question?

Scott




On 12/21/11 3:17 PM, George Shuklin wrote:


On 22.12.2011 00:45, Scott Zupek wrote:
I am re-installing XCP 1.1 via ISO and it looks like it can't find the raid controller driver because it's listing all the drives individually.

Since I am not very familiar with the Linux side of Raid, do I need to download the Linux driver (if there is even one available) and put it on a floppy like Windows?

Motherboard = ASUS M5A97EVO
RAID Controller AMD SB950 chipset

Raid type = 1+0 *aka raid 10

First, please, never reply to maillist with new topic, you causing wrong thread ordering of messages. If you wish to start new topic, just write it to maillist address.

Second, there is two issues:

1) Don't use fake raid under linux. Linux has perfect software raid, which much more reliable and much less troublemaking, compare to fake raid (you device is fake raid, because it don't actually do anything with drives).
2) Sad to say, but XCP have very serious issues with raid support. We using software raid with XCP in our company, but we created very specifically crafted ISO image with lots ad-hoc fixes and hacks. I can't recommend do this to anyone, who don't really deep enough in XCP to do this by himself.

So, you have to opportunities:
a) use real hardware raid (to get raid array as  /dev/sda).
b) Do not use raid in anyway (configure fake raid to HBA mode) - use external storage and don't bother for XCP system drive. If host die, no data will be lost.



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[95.161.2.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a60sm40426726eeb.4.2011.12.22.15.22.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:22:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EF3BB9F.8070507@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 03:22:07 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111215 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> <4EF24CFF.2010703@gmail.com> <4EF24FF1.1000507@wi.rr.com> <4EF3318F.8040601@gmail.com> <4EF3A0F1.6090606@wi.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF3A0F1.6090606@wi.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XCP + RAID X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1133091269526119852==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1133091269526119852== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050702030400070107030607" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050702030400070107030607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 23.12.2011 01:28, Scott Zupek wrote: > On 12/22/11 7:33 AM, George Shuklin wrote: >> >> Anyway, I can say one thing: don't do this. Any lowlevel manipulation >> with 'fakeraid' and XCP will make you getting a nasty problems you >> will need to fix by yourself (without community help). >> >> If you playing with XCP - turn 'raid' to 'hba' (sata ahci) in bios >> and use a single drive. > *At this point I am trying to install Debian on a software raid but I > can't get the darn thing to bootup. Raid has been turned off and all 4 > SATA3 drives are set to ACHI mode. Grub is a nightmare and apparently > "mdm raid" software is the way to go. I have been trying to get this > to work for a few days now.* If you wish to use XCP, no debian, sorry. XCP is shipped with very tight tuned OS inside and shall works with it only. If you are talking about xcp packages for ubuntu/debian - they are not ready for product environment. >> If you wants to use this in product - think about proper hardware. >> nForce is NOT A SERVER solution. > * > I completely understand the nForce is NOT a server solution, but in > all reality, this is 1 server hosting 3 or maybe 4 servers for my I.T. > consulting company. I don't need top of the line performance so I > don't need the 1000+ USD raid cards. nForce has yet to fail me and I > am not runnign a data center, so those speed differences are > negotiable. nForce is still a hardware solution, but moreso geared > towards high end users/workstations. Regardless I gave up on the > hardware raid as that system board didn't support AM3+. I understand > that I am between a home user and a business class/enterprise user. > That's why I am trying to get Xen Hypervisor and XCP to work correctly. :) > * nForce raid is not an 'hardware solution'. Spit to the eyes to guy who told you this. 'fake raid' is just changed PID/VID of device, to make it not working with default AHCI driver. A specially crafted windows driver recognize those PID/VID and do software raid, presenting to operating system a 'raid' device. But actually all work happens inside driver. So there is NO difference in performance of 'fake raid' and software raid (I do actually think that software raid will be faster). But XCP does not support software raids. So you need to wipe completely content of drives and install XCP to clean system to the first disk (sda). If you do really wants to use local disks as storage, and have redundancy you can create two SR later create two same size VDI and join them together as raid1 in guest machine. (but this is kinda... weird). >> PS XCP supports up to 32 cores, so 8 core shall works fine. > * > That is actually great to know. Thank you. It sounds like I'll have > to get XCP to work with Xen Hypervisor running on top Debian (with > DOM0 kernel). Since it's not as easy as the XCP ISO/Hypervisor, > hopefully I can get it to a manageable state using XenCenter. > speaking of, is there a "better"/more unified management tool beyond > XenCenter? I don't want management to be complicated, I am just curious. > > Thank you for the help/responses. This is all new techology(software > wise) to me and I love learning as I go. I apologize if I am filling > the mailing list with off topic material. Since it all goes back to > XCP-API I thought it might pertain.* Main management system for XCP is 'xe' command line. You need to have medium level of understanding XenAPI relations model to use it (see documentation for XenServer). And please, don't mix xen+xend (xen- packages in may distro) and XCP. XCP use xen, but differ significantly from xapi (the core of XCP toolstack). --------------050702030400070107030607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 23.12.2011 01:28, Scott Zupek wrote:
On 12/22/11 7:33 AM, George Shuklin wrote:

Anyway, I can say one thing: don't do this. Any lowlevel manipulation with 'fakeraid' and XCP will make you getting a nasty problems you will need to fix by yourself (without community help).

If you playing with XCP - turn 'raid' to 'hba' (sata ahci) in bios and use a single drive.
At this point I am trying to install Debian on a software raid but I can't get the darn thing to bootup. Raid has been turned off and all 4 SATA3 drives are set to ACHI mode.  Grub is a nightmare and apparently "mdm raid" software is the way to go. I have been trying to get this to work for a few days now.
If you wish to use XCP, no debian, sorry. XCP is shipped with very tight tuned OS inside and shall works with it only. If you are talking about xcp packages for ubuntu/debian - they are not ready for product environment.

If you wants to use this in product - think about proper hardware. nForce is NOT A SERVER solution.

I completely understand the nForce is NOT a server solution, but in all reality, this is 1 server hosting 3 or maybe 4 servers for my I.T. consulting company. I don't need top of the line performance so I don't need the 1000+ USD raid cards. nForce has yet to fail me and I am not runnign a data center, so those speed differences are negotiable. nForce is still a hardware solution, but moreso geared towards high end users/workstations.  Regardless I gave up on the hardware raid as that system board didn't support AM3+.  I understand that I am between a home user and a business class/enterprise user.  That's why I am trying to get Xen Hypervisor and XCP to work correctly. :)

nForce raid is not an 'hardware solution'. Spit to the eyes to guy who told you this. 'fake raid' is just changed PID/VID of device, to make it not working with default AHCI driver. A specially crafted windows driver recognize those PID/VID and do software raid, presenting to operating system a 'raid' device. But actually all work happens inside driver. So there is NO difference in performance of 'fake raid' and software raid (I do actually think that software raid will be faster).

But XCP does not support software raids. So you need to wipe completely content of drives and install XCP to clean system to the first disk (sda).

If you do really wants to use local disks as storage, and have redundancy you can create two SR later create two same size VDI and join them together as  raid1 in guest machine. (but this is kinda... weird).
PS XCP supports up to 32 cores, so 8 core shall works fine.

That is actually great to know.  Thank you.  It sounds like I'll have to get XCP to work with Xen Hypervisor running on top  Debian (with DOM0 kernel).  Since it's not as easy as the XCP ISO/Hypervisor, hopefully I can get it to a manageable state using XenCenter.  speaking of, is there a "better"/more unified management tool beyond XenCenter? I don't want management to be complicated, I am just curious.

Thank you for the help/responses.  This is all new techology(software wise) to me and I love learning as I go. I apologize if I am filling the mailing list with off topic material.  Since it all goes back to XCP-API I thought it might pertain.
Main management system for XCP is 'xe' command line. You need to have medium level of understanding XenAPI relations model to use it (see documentation for XenServer).

And please, don't mix xen+xend (xen- packages in may distro) and XCP. XCP use xen, but differ significantly from xapi (the core of XCP toolstack).
--------------050702030400070107030607-- --===============1133091269526119852== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============1133091269526119852==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 22 23:22:30 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:22:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdrxs-0001vt-T7; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:22:20 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdrxr-0001vo-EN for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:22:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: george.shuklin@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324596132!7825645!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.83.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.7 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP, spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 30736 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 23:22:12 -0000 Received: from mail-ee0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-ee0-f43.google.com) (74.125.83.43) by server-13.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 23:22:12 -0000 Received: by eekd4 with SMTP id d4so43214358eek.30 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:22:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=Kvf1z/yYHaWW3BVrTto79sTF4aAlbGajpC7z9EhPB40=; b=Es5s2J72cJtePIUH9JKqiUOYu3Ir+nSucBuFL0u+tb9+6qxqbp0tUO2UDRQS4EwhkE gkydPjZAY7RjjIZnnl1j4SQT6i80XtXmnXEBlqxgsTrVoJ6HBUM7lhde1i3UU+oW7JWb Blx2ZF81F9UO664DzCs/fpKxKP+h8hOd50hu8= Received: by 10.14.127.76 with SMTP id c52mr4968207eei.102.1324596132413; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.220] (desunote.ru. [95.161.2.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a60sm40426726eeb.4.2011.12.22.15.22.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:22:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EF3BB9F.8070507@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 03:22:07 +0400 From: George Shuklin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111215 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: <4EF1F8B5.50108@gmail.com> <4EF24568.20808@wi.rr.com> <4EF24CFF.2010703@gmail.com> <4EF24FF1.1000507@wi.rr.com> <4EF3318F.8040601@gmail.com> <4EF3A0F1.6090606@wi.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF3A0F1.6090606@wi.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XCP + RAID X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1133091269526119852==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1133091269526119852== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050702030400070107030607" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050702030400070107030607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 23.12.2011 01:28, Scott Zupek wrote: > On 12/22/11 7:33 AM, George Shuklin wrote: >> >> Anyway, I can say one thing: don't do this. Any lowlevel manipulation >> with 'fakeraid' and XCP will make you getting a nasty problems you >> will need to fix by yourself (without community help). >> >> If you playing with XCP - turn 'raid' to 'hba' (sata ahci) in bios >> and use a single drive. > *At this point I am trying to install Debian on a software raid but I > can't get the darn thing to bootup. Raid has been turned off and all 4 > SATA3 drives are set to ACHI mode. Grub is a nightmare and apparently > "mdm raid" software is the way to go. I have been trying to get this > to work for a few days now.* If you wish to use XCP, no debian, sorry. XCP is shipped with very tight tuned OS inside and shall works with it only. If you are talking about xcp packages for ubuntu/debian - they are not ready for product environment. >> If you wants to use this in product - think about proper hardware. >> nForce is NOT A SERVER solution. > * > I completely understand the nForce is NOT a server solution, but in > all reality, this is 1 server hosting 3 or maybe 4 servers for my I.T. > consulting company. I don't need top of the line performance so I > don't need the 1000+ USD raid cards. nForce has yet to fail me and I > am not runnign a data center, so those speed differences are > negotiable. nForce is still a hardware solution, but moreso geared > towards high end users/workstations. Regardless I gave up on the > hardware raid as that system board didn't support AM3+. I understand > that I am between a home user and a business class/enterprise user. > That's why I am trying to get Xen Hypervisor and XCP to work correctly. :) > * nForce raid is not an 'hardware solution'. Spit to the eyes to guy who told you this. 'fake raid' is just changed PID/VID of device, to make it not working with default AHCI driver. A specially crafted windows driver recognize those PID/VID and do software raid, presenting to operating system a 'raid' device. But actually all work happens inside driver. So there is NO difference in performance of 'fake raid' and software raid (I do actually think that software raid will be faster). But XCP does not support software raids. So you need to wipe completely content of drives and install XCP to clean system to the first disk (sda). If you do really wants to use local disks as storage, and have redundancy you can create two SR later create two same size VDI and join them together as raid1 in guest machine. (but this is kinda... weird). >> PS XCP supports up to 32 cores, so 8 core shall works fine. > * > That is actually great to know. Thank you. It sounds like I'll have > to get XCP to work with Xen Hypervisor running on top Debian (with > DOM0 kernel). Since it's not as easy as the XCP ISO/Hypervisor, > hopefully I can get it to a manageable state using XenCenter. > speaking of, is there a "better"/more unified management tool beyond > XenCenter? I don't want management to be complicated, I am just curious. > > Thank you for the help/responses. This is all new techology(software > wise) to me and I love learning as I go. I apologize if I am filling > the mailing list with off topic material. Since it all goes back to > XCP-API I thought it might pertain.* Main management system for XCP is 'xe' command line. You need to have medium level of understanding XenAPI relations model to use it (see documentation for XenServer). And please, don't mix xen+xend (xen- packages in may distro) and XCP. XCP use xen, but differ significantly from xapi (the core of XCP toolstack). --------------050702030400070107030607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 23.12.2011 01:28, Scott Zupek wrote:
On 12/22/11 7:33 AM, George Shuklin wrote:

Anyway, I can say one thing: don't do this. Any lowlevel manipulation with 'fakeraid' and XCP will make you getting a nasty problems you will need to fix by yourself (without community help).

If you playing with XCP - turn 'raid' to 'hba' (sata ahci) in bios and use a single drive.
At this point I am trying to install Debian on a software raid but I can't get the darn thing to bootup. Raid has been turned off and all 4 SATA3 drives are set to ACHI mode.  Grub is a nightmare and apparently "mdm raid" software is the way to go. I have been trying to get this to work for a few days now.
If you wish to use XCP, no debian, sorry. XCP is shipped with very tight tuned OS inside and shall works with it only. If you are talking about xcp packages for ubuntu/debian - they are not ready for product environment.

If you wants to use this in product - think about proper hardware. nForce is NOT A SERVER solution.

I completely understand the nForce is NOT a server solution, but in all reality, this is 1 server hosting 3 or maybe 4 servers for my I.T. consulting company. I don't need top of the line performance so I don't need the 1000+ USD raid cards. nForce has yet to fail me and I am not runnign a data center, so those speed differences are negotiable. nForce is still a hardware solution, but moreso geared towards high end users/workstations.  Regardless I gave up on the hardware raid as that system board didn't support AM3+.  I understand that I am between a home user and a business class/enterprise user.  That's why I am trying to get Xen Hypervisor and XCP to work correctly. :)

nForce raid is not an 'hardware solution'. Spit to the eyes to guy who told you this. 'fake raid' is just changed PID/VID of device, to make it not working with default AHCI driver. A specially crafted windows driver recognize those PID/VID and do software raid, presenting to operating system a 'raid' device. But actually all work happens inside driver. So there is NO difference in performance of 'fake raid' and software raid (I do actually think that software raid will be faster).

But XCP does not support software raids. So you need to wipe completely content of drives and install XCP to clean system to the first disk (sda).

If you do really wants to use local disks as storage, and have redundancy you can create two SR later create two same size VDI and join them together as  raid1 in guest machine. (but this is kinda... weird).
PS XCP supports up to 32 cores, so 8 core shall works fine.

That is actually great to know.  Thank you.  It sounds like I'll have to get XCP to work with Xen Hypervisor running on top  Debian (with DOM0 kernel).  Since it's not as easy as the XCP ISO/Hypervisor, hopefully I can get it to a manageable state using XenCenter.  speaking of, is there a "better"/more unified management tool beyond XenCenter? I don't want management to be complicated, I am just curious.

Thank you for the help/responses.  This is all new techology(software wise) to me and I love learning as I go. I apologize if I am filling the mailing list with off topic material.  Since it all goes back to XCP-API I thought it might pertain.
Main management system for XCP is 'xe' command line. You need to have medium level of understanding XenAPI relations model to use it (see documentation for XenServer).

And please, don't mix xen+xend (xen- packages in may distro) and XCP. XCP use xen, but differ significantly from xapi (the core of XCP toolstack).
--------------050702030400070107030607-- --===============1133091269526119852== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============1133091269526119852==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 23 11:00:29 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:00:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Re2rL-0000Ag-Sh; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:00:19 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Re2rK-0000AF-AC for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:00:18 +0000 X-Env-Sender: medhavini1991@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324638011!8356972!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.9 required=7.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16,HTML_MESSAGE,ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP, spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 29047 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2011 11:00:11 -0000 Received: from mail-ey0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-ey0-f171.google.com) (209.85.215.171) by server-15.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Dec 2011 11:00:11 -0000 Received: by eaad11 with SMTP id d11so32486511eaa.30 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 03:00:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:x-goomoji-body:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XPEMEdlcFi1gcPYrx62X2mNLBMM09+Co9LY764fSPtk=; b=WZ1bP9e6cMA7InJK80QPbHI+sbRd0qL9JIQGqRLp64C6s3n/02Qn/0sABE3Qn3F06o KwpMCgUgDKa82hm7foHVg6kRtcN1uJBHjFsO6iDjqFMb6w9+HKM7ILGw6Le8HyZ31GRJ sME2iOv/nW5GCn3srX6Pn7YjbarI8vzjKr7fs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.128.130 with SMTP id k2mr3929787bks.7.1324638009117; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 03:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.81.132 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 03:00:09 -0800 (PST) X-Goomoji-Body: true Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:30:09 +0530 Message-ID: From: Medhavini Buchade To: xen-api Subject: [Xen-API] Doubts regarding the VMs on XCP X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1331582624076424512==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============1331582624076424512== Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=0015174c0f76fd4de704b4c051ca --0015174c0f76fd4de704b4c051ca Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c0f76fd4de204b4c051c9 --0015174c0f76fd4de204b4c051c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello everyone, I encountered some problems while working on XCP. Please suggest if I am doing something wrong. I also need to clarify certain concepts as I am using XCP for the first time. [?] 1) I was trying to install Debian Lenny 5.0 (32-bit). I did the following steps: xe vm-install template=... xe vm-param-set uuid=... other-config:install-repository= http://ftp.debian.org/debian xe vm-start uuid=... VM was created and it was in the running state. Then I did xe vm-shutdown after which the VM entered the halted state. I then did the following steps: xe vm-start uuid=... Error: Unable to find partition containing kernel To remove the above error, I did the following step xe vm-param-set uuid=... PV-bootloader=eliloader xe vm-start uuid=... Error code:INVALID_SOURCE Error parameters:Unable to access a required file in the specified repository: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/isolinux/vmlinuz 2) In which state should the VMs be when we need to shutdown the server that runs XCP? 3) In which state should the VM be when it is not in use(Just like we shut down our PCs when they are not in use and the data on the PC remains intact.)? Thank you. --0015174c0f76fd4de204b4c051c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone,

I encountered some problems while working on XCP. Pl= ease suggest if I am doing something wrong. I also need to clarify certain = concepts as I am using XCP for the first time.

1)
I was trying to install Debian Lenny 5.0 (32-bit). I did the followin= g steps:
xe vm-install template=3D...
xe vm-param-set uuid=3D... othe= r-config:install-repository=3Dhttp= ://ftp.debian.org/debian
xe vm-start uuid=3D...

VM was created and it was in the running stat= e. Then I did xe vm-shutdown after which the VM entered the halted state. <= br>I then did the following steps:
xe vm-start uuid=3D...
Error: Unab= le to find partition containing kernel
To remove the above error, I did the following step
xe vm-param-set uuid= =3D... PV-bootloader=3Deliloader

xe vm-start uuid=3D...
Error co= de:INVALID_SOURCE
Error parameters:Unable to access a required file in t= he specified repository:
http://ftp.debian= .org/debian/isolinux/vmlinuz

2)
In which state should the VMs= be when we need to shutdown the server that runs XCP?

3)
In whic= h state should the VM be when it is not in use(Just like we shut down our P= Cs when they are not in use and the data on the PC remains intact.)?

Thank you.
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Please suggest if I am doing something wrong. I also need to clarify certain concepts as I am using XCP for the first time. [?] 1) I was trying to install Debian Lenny 5.0 (32-bit). I did the following steps: xe vm-install template=... xe vm-param-set uuid=... other-config:install-repository= http://ftp.debian.org/debian xe vm-start uuid=... VM was created and it was in the running state. Then I did xe vm-shutdown after which the VM entered the halted state. I then did the following steps: xe vm-start uuid=... Error: Unable to find partition containing kernel To remove the above error, I did the following step xe vm-param-set uuid=... PV-bootloader=eliloader xe vm-start uuid=... Error code:INVALID_SOURCE Error parameters:Unable to access a required file in the specified repository: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/isolinux/vmlinuz 2) In which state should the VMs be when we need to shutdown the server that runs XCP? 3) In which state should the VM be when it is not in use(Just like we shut down our PCs when they are not in use and the data on the PC remains intact.)? Thank you. --0015174c0f76fd4de204b4c051c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone,

I encountered some problems while working on XCP. Pl= ease suggest if I am doing something wrong. I also need to clarify certain = concepts as I am using XCP for the first time.

1)
I was trying to install Debian Lenny 5.0 (32-bit). I did the followin= g steps:
xe vm-install template=3D...
xe vm-param-set uuid=3D... othe= r-config:install-repository=3Dhttp= ://ftp.debian.org/debian
xe vm-start uuid=3D...

VM was created and it was in the running stat= e. Then I did xe vm-shutdown after which the VM entered the halted state. <= br>I then did the following steps:
xe vm-start uuid=3D...
Error: Unab= le to find partition containing kernel
To remove the above error, I did the following step
xe vm-param-set uuid= =3D... PV-bootloader=3Deliloader

xe vm-start uuid=3D...
Error co= de:INVALID_SOURCE
Error parameters:Unable to access a required file in t= he specified repository:
http://ftp.debian= .org/debian/isolinux/vmlinuz

2)
In which state should the VMs= be when we need to shutdown the server that runs XCP?

3)
In whic= h state should the VM be when it is not in use(Just like we shut down our P= Cs when they are not in use and the data on the PC remains intact.)?

Thank you.
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banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 10997 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2011 23:42:25 -0000 Received: from mail-vx0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-vx0-f171.google.com) (209.85.220.171) by server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 25 Dec 2011 23:42:25 -0000 Received: by vcbfl11 with SMTP id fl11so29859352vcb.30 for ; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 15:43:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=tWiiB7hBqxQhLXIbkUTb2rlBMYPtvbycGEy0M5S4PFU=; b=TVqn3K6Y9X52fSuWh5gxhenTBX/0qsu6SGaMtEMUSdBqVNla/qlGbQivtYBtpGCczw aKLlD3v77cxVFdSCvdP8QiJ2qrQPlQXF4ed0pcfWxOAT2Sb/0f1OmAJ4Izb3LH9NDXCy tfkhmJsHO1/LMegMrkRs39X6s2y8FFPP+w5GY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.74.163 with SMTP id u3mr11105562vdv.91.1324856585985; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 15:43:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.3.69 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 15:43:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 23:43:05 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0NTWyaiR_ApMADuKdjY8wcutScU Message-ID: From: "msgbox450@gmail.com" To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] XAPI on Ubuntu X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5242213865379001604==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============5242213865379001604== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071c8cc2f9e4c04b4f336f1 --20cf3071c8cc2f9e4c04b4f336f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Mike etc, I have tried installing XCP on Ubuntu and it went really smoothly this time. The xe commands are working locally and the XAPI web service seems to be listening on port 80. There is only issue however... XenCenter complains it is unable to make a SSL connection and doesn't work. With XAPI on Debian I had the same problem and solved it by running ""/etc/init.d/xapissl start". That script doesn't seem to exist any more in the kronos build though so I can't work out how to get it working. Any tips? Thanks :) --20cf3071c8cc2f9e4c04b4f336f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike etc,

I have tried installing XCP on Ubuntu and i= t went really smoothly this time. The xe commands are working locally and t= he XAPI web service seems to be listening on port 80. There is only issue h= owever... XenCenter complains it is unable to make a SSL connection and doe= sn't work.
With XAPI on Debian I had the same problem and solved it by running &q= uot;= "/etc/init.d/xapissl start".
That script doesn't= seem to exist any more in the kronos build though so I can't work out = how to get it working. Any tips?

Thanks :)
--20cf3071c8cc2f9e4c04b4f336f1-- --===============5242213865379001604== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============5242213865379001604==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Sun Dec 25 23:43:23 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 23:43:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rexig-0002Kp-0x; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 23:43:10 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rexie-0002Kh-LE for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 23:43:08 +0000 X-Env-Sender: brainy@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1324856544!48122304!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.220.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.9 required=7.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 10997 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2011 23:42:25 -0000 Received: from mail-vx0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-vx0-f171.google.com) (209.85.220.171) by server-10.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 25 Dec 2011 23:42:25 -0000 Received: by vcbfl11 with SMTP id fl11so29859352vcb.30 for ; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 15:43:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=tWiiB7hBqxQhLXIbkUTb2rlBMYPtvbycGEy0M5S4PFU=; b=TVqn3K6Y9X52fSuWh5gxhenTBX/0qsu6SGaMtEMUSdBqVNla/qlGbQivtYBtpGCczw aKLlD3v77cxVFdSCvdP8QiJ2qrQPlQXF4ed0pcfWxOAT2Sb/0f1OmAJ4Izb3LH9NDXCy tfkhmJsHO1/LMegMrkRs39X6s2y8FFPP+w5GY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.74.163 with SMTP id u3mr11105562vdv.91.1324856585985; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 15:43:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.3.69 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 15:43:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 23:43:05 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0NTWyaiR_ApMADuKdjY8wcutScU Message-ID: From: "msgbox450@gmail.com" To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] XAPI on Ubuntu X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5242213865379001604==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============5242213865379001604== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071c8cc2f9e4c04b4f336f1 --20cf3071c8cc2f9e4c04b4f336f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Mike etc, I have tried installing XCP on Ubuntu and it went really smoothly this time. The xe commands are working locally and the XAPI web service seems to be listening on port 80. There is only issue however... XenCenter complains it is unable to make a SSL connection and doesn't work. With XAPI on Debian I had the same problem and solved it by running ""/etc/init.d/xapissl start". That script doesn't seem to exist any more in the kronos build though so I can't work out how to get it working. Any tips? Thanks :) --20cf3071c8cc2f9e4c04b4f336f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike etc,

I have tried installing XCP on Ubuntu and i= t went really smoothly this time. The xe commands are working locally and t= he XAPI web service seems to be listening on port 80. There is only issue h= owever... XenCenter complains it is unable to make a SSL connection and doe= sn't work.
With XAPI on Debian I had the same problem and solved it by running &q= uot;= "/etc/init.d/xapissl start".
That script doesn't= seem to exist any more in the kronos build though so I can't work out = how to get it working. Any tips?

Thanks :)
--20cf3071c8cc2f9e4c04b4f336f1-- --===============5242213865379001604== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============5242213865379001604==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 26 00:21:08 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 00:21:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ReyJF-00032b-Tg; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 00:20:57 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ReyJE-00032V-Eu for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 00:20:56 +0000 X-Env-Sender: outbackdingo@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1324858849!7816646!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.6 required=7.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 30371 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2011 00:20:50 -0000 Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com (HELO mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com) (209.85.215.43) by server-3.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 26 Dec 2011 00:20:50 -0000 Received: by lagw12 with SMTP id w12so11153652lag.30 for ; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 16:20:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vs3I/E2uND2h7oa04ep5+u+KfB8rqdsweR7UojnZIzA=; b=wNCDnGlwHYFiM4bmDuJJWDEwfSKmUv09qIbxpFtgxOnf6glKlidKp8i2DT+sQzz0Dd TGq3tzd9eRL9SxLVRDX/Cx1zSGilq8vE5w2NXDzvS//OYM2upn2F+MlTWHdXwfhEYBWt /ky7VltiTflD7RJUCzgBfXCjwSbACtSQMOOVc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.112.42 with SMTP id in10mr19091614lab.21.1324858848662; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 16:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.41.67 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 16:20:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 19:20:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: Outback Dingo To: "msgbox450@gmail.com" Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XAPI on Ubuntu X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 6:43 PM, msgbox450@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Mike etc, > > I have tried installing XCP on Ubuntu and it went really smoothly this time. > The xe commands are working locally and the XAPI web service seems to be > listening on port 80. There is only issue however... XenCenter complains it > is unable to make a SSL connection and doesn't work. > With XAPI on Debian I had the same problem and solved it by running > ""/etc/init.d/xapissl start". > That script doesn't seem to exist any more in the kronos build though so I > can't work out how to get it working. Any tips? > > Thanks :) make sure you have a MANAGEMENT_INTERFACE='' listed in /etc/xcp/inventory and run /usr/lib/xcp/lib/xapissl start my sample inventory file below --------------------------------------------- cat /etc/xcp/inventory BUILD_NUMBER='0' CURRENT_INTERFACES='' CONTROL_DOMAIN_UUID='2b6c86bc-a4fb-3854-3430-37f9e126c678' MANAGEMENT_INTERFACE='xenbr0' INSTALLATION_UUID='398bdbca-bb6b-ca54-5ba0-943deec7103d' > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 26 00:21:08 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 00:21:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ReyJF-00032b-Tg; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 00:20:57 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ReyJE-00032V-Eu for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 00:20:56 +0000 X-Env-Sender: outbackdingo@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1324858849!7816646!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.215.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.6 required=7.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 30371 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2011 00:20:50 -0000 Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com (HELO mail-lpp01m010-f43.google.com) (209.85.215.43) by server-3.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 26 Dec 2011 00:20:50 -0000 Received: by lagw12 with SMTP id w12so11153652lag.30 for ; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 16:20:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vs3I/E2uND2h7oa04ep5+u+KfB8rqdsweR7UojnZIzA=; b=wNCDnGlwHYFiM4bmDuJJWDEwfSKmUv09qIbxpFtgxOnf6glKlidKp8i2DT+sQzz0Dd TGq3tzd9eRL9SxLVRDX/Cx1zSGilq8vE5w2NXDzvS//OYM2upn2F+MlTWHdXwfhEYBWt /ky7VltiTflD7RJUCzgBfXCjwSbACtSQMOOVc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.112.42 with SMTP id in10mr19091614lab.21.1324858848662; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 16:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.41.67 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 16:20:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 19:20:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: Outback Dingo To: "msgbox450@gmail.com" Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XAPI on Ubuntu X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 6:43 PM, msgbox450@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Mike etc, > > I have tried installing XCP on Ubuntu and it went really smoothly this time. > The xe commands are working locally and the XAPI web service seems to be > listening on port 80. There is only issue however... XenCenter complains it > is unable to make a SSL connection and doesn't work. > With XAPI on Debian I had the same problem and solved it by running > ""/etc/init.d/xapissl start". > That script doesn't seem to exist any more in the kronos build though so I > can't work out how to get it working. Any tips? > > Thanks :) make sure you have a MANAGEMENT_INTERFACE='' listed in /etc/xcp/inventory and run /usr/lib/xcp/lib/xapissl start my sample inventory file below --------------------------------------------- cat /etc/xcp/inventory BUILD_NUMBER='0' CURRENT_INTERFACES='' CONTROL_DOMAIN_UUID='2b6c86bc-a4fb-3854-3430-37f9e126c678' MANAGEMENT_INTERFACE='xenbr0' INSTALLATION_UUID='398bdbca-bb6b-ca54-5ba0-943deec7103d' > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 26 23:46:59 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:46:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RfKFi-00060H-Uo; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:46:46 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RfKFh-00060B-Tq for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:46:46 +0000 X-Env-Sender: brainy@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324943198!8701617!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.220.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.7 required=7.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 22997 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2011 23:46:39 -0000 Received: from mail-vx0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-vx0-f171.google.com) (209.85.220.171) by server-2.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 26 Dec 2011 23:46:39 -0000 Received: by vcbfl11 with SMTP id fl11so30754392vcb.30 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:46:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rCezis8njBLxkR4LCXOUVZih8raR4PZdYEYueglW25U=; b=DK30gnrp+2vvW+k5EfE7lS1KoXxWkEY+sgu/PcNv5A6ckHI+mJeTL1k323e12Jqy+w 47g7SS75Tm2yWNGBnZkYBiyhQ8wFCbG56g/IZLNSIDnpJzdij76CzitK149mstWZA0sp 71Vfi1qS9DlUhZYFG4zEtWw7PyDvM73Brlkfo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.227.66 with SMTP id iz2mr15151859vcb.16.1324943197927; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.3.69 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:46:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:46:37 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: yX4bPkedwTck8n9jLVwG_tmniys Message-ID: From: "msgbox450@gmail.com" To: Outback Dingo Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XAPI on Ubuntu X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4201867612121334519==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============4201867612121334519== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9cdcbbfa8fa2b04b507607d --14dae9cdcbbfa8fa2b04b507607d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks... that was the script I was looking for :) It seems to be working, "xapissl status" says stunnel4 is running and if I delete the xapi-ssl.conf and xapi-ssl.pem it regenerates them and runs... however XenCenter is still telling me "Could not create SSL/TLS secure channel" and I can't see anything about it in the logs :( On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Outback Dingo wrote: > On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 6:43 PM, msgbox450@gmail.com > wrote: > > Hi Mike etc, > > > > I have tried installing XCP on Ubuntu and it went really smoothly this > time. > > The xe commands are working locally and the XAPI web service seems to be > > listening on port 80. There is only issue however... XenCenter complains > it > > is unable to make a SSL connection and doesn't work. > > With XAPI on Debian I had the same problem and solved it by running > > ""/etc/init.d/xapissl start". > > That script doesn't seem to exist any more in the kronos build though so > I > > can't work out how to get it working. Any tips? > > > > Thanks :) > > make sure you have a MANAGEMENT_INTERFACE='' listed in > /etc/xcp/inventory and run > /usr/lib/xcp/lib/xapissl start > > my sample inventory file below > --------------------------------------------- > cat /etc/xcp/inventory > BUILD_NUMBER='0' > CURRENT_INTERFACES='' > CONTROL_DOMAIN_UUID='2b6c86bc-a4fb-3854-3430-37f9e126c678' > MANAGEMENT_INTERFACE='xenbr0' > INSTALLATION_UUID='398bdbca-bb6b-ca54-5ba0-943deec7103d' > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > xen-api mailing list > > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > > > --14dae9cdcbbfa8fa2b04b507607d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks... that was the script I was looking for :)

It se= ems to be working, "xapissl status" says stunnel4 is running and = if I delete the xapi-ssl.conf and xapi-ssl.pem it regenerates them and runs= ... however XenCenter is still telling me "Could not create SSL/TLS se= cure channel" and I can't see anything about it in the logs :(



On Mon, Dec 26, 2011= at 12:20 AM, Outback Dingo <outbackdingo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 6:43 PM, msgbox450@gmail.com
<msgbox450@gmail.com> wrot= e:
> Hi Mike etc,
>
> I have tried installing XCP on Ubuntu and it went really smoothly this= time.
> The xe commands are working locally and the XAPI web service seems to = be
> listening on port 80. There is only issue however... XenCenter complai= ns it
> is unable to make a SSL connection and doesn't work.
> With XAPI on Debian I had the same problem and solved it by running > ""/etc/init.d/xapissl start".
> That script doesn't seem to exist any more in the kronos build tho= ugh so I
> can't work out how to get it working. Any tips?
>
> Thanks :)

make sure you have a MANAGEMENT_INTERFACE=3D'' listed i= n
/etc/xcp/inventory and run
/usr/lib/xcp/lib/xapissl start

my sample inventory file below
---------------------------------------------
cat /etc/xcp/inventory
BUILD_NUMBER=3D'0'
CURRENT_INTERFACES=3D''
CONTROL_DOMAIN_UUID=3D'2b6c86bc-a4fb-3854-3430-37f9e126c678'
MANAGEMENT_INTERFACE=3D'xenbr0'
INSTALLATION_UUID=3D'398bdbca-bb6b-ca54-5ba0-943deec7103d'


>
> _______________________________________________
> xen-api mailing list
> xen-api@lists.xensource= .com
> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api
>

--14dae9cdcbbfa8fa2b04b507607d-- --===============4201867612121334519== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============4201867612121334519==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Mon Dec 26 23:46:59 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:46:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RfKFi-00060H-Uo; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:46:46 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RfKFh-00060B-Tq for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:46:46 +0000 X-Env-Sender: brainy@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1324943198!8701617!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.220.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.7 required=7.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 22997 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2011 23:46:39 -0000 Received: from mail-vx0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-vx0-f171.google.com) (209.85.220.171) by server-2.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 26 Dec 2011 23:46:39 -0000 Received: by vcbfl11 with SMTP id fl11so30754392vcb.30 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:46:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rCezis8njBLxkR4LCXOUVZih8raR4PZdYEYueglW25U=; b=DK30gnrp+2vvW+k5EfE7lS1KoXxWkEY+sgu/PcNv5A6ckHI+mJeTL1k323e12Jqy+w 47g7SS75Tm2yWNGBnZkYBiyhQ8wFCbG56g/IZLNSIDnpJzdij76CzitK149mstWZA0sp 71Vfi1qS9DlUhZYFG4zEtWw7PyDvM73Brlkfo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.227.66 with SMTP id iz2mr15151859vcb.16.1324943197927; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.3.69 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:46:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:46:37 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: yX4bPkedwTck8n9jLVwG_tmniys Message-ID: From: "msgbox450@gmail.com" To: Outback Dingo Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XAPI on Ubuntu X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4201867612121334519==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============4201867612121334519== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9cdcbbfa8fa2b04b507607d --14dae9cdcbbfa8fa2b04b507607d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks... that was the script I was looking for :) It seems to be working, "xapissl status" says stunnel4 is running and if I delete the xapi-ssl.conf and xapi-ssl.pem it regenerates them and runs... however XenCenter is still telling me "Could not create SSL/TLS secure channel" and I can't see anything about it in the logs :( On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Outback Dingo wrote: > On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 6:43 PM, msgbox450@gmail.com > wrote: > > Hi Mike etc, > > > > I have tried installing XCP on Ubuntu and it went really smoothly this > time. > > The xe commands are working locally and the XAPI web service seems to be > > listening on port 80. There is only issue however... XenCenter complains > it > > is unable to make a SSL connection and doesn't work. > > With XAPI on Debian I had the same problem and solved it by running > > ""/etc/init.d/xapissl start". > > That script doesn't seem to exist any more in the kronos build though so > I > > can't work out how to get it working. Any tips? > > > > Thanks :) > > make sure you have a MANAGEMENT_INTERFACE='' listed in > /etc/xcp/inventory and run > /usr/lib/xcp/lib/xapissl start > > my sample inventory file below > --------------------------------------------- > cat /etc/xcp/inventory > BUILD_NUMBER='0' > CURRENT_INTERFACES='' > CONTROL_DOMAIN_UUID='2b6c86bc-a4fb-3854-3430-37f9e126c678' > MANAGEMENT_INTERFACE='xenbr0' > INSTALLATION_UUID='398bdbca-bb6b-ca54-5ba0-943deec7103d' > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > xen-api mailing list > > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > > > --14dae9cdcbbfa8fa2b04b507607d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks... that was the script I was looking for :)

It se= ems to be working, "xapissl status" says stunnel4 is running and = if I delete the xapi-ssl.conf and xapi-ssl.pem it regenerates them and runs= ... however XenCenter is still telling me "Could not create SSL/TLS se= cure channel" and I can't see anything about it in the logs :(



On Mon, Dec 26, 2011= at 12:20 AM, Outback Dingo <outbackdingo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 6:43 PM, msgbox450@gmail.com
<msgbox450@gmail.com> wrot= e:
> Hi Mike etc,
>
> I have tried installing XCP on Ubuntu and it went really smoothly this= time.
> The xe commands are working locally and the XAPI web service seems to = be
> listening on port 80. There is only issue however... XenCenter complai= ns it
> is unable to make a SSL connection and doesn't work.
> With XAPI on Debian I had the same problem and solved it by running > ""/etc/init.d/xapissl start".
> That script doesn't seem to exist any more in the kronos build tho= ugh so I
> can't work out how to get it working. Any tips?
>
> Thanks :)

make sure you have a MANAGEMENT_INTERFACE=3D'' listed i= n
/etc/xcp/inventory and run
/usr/lib/xcp/lib/xapissl start

my sample inventory file below
---------------------------------------------
cat /etc/xcp/inventory
BUILD_NUMBER=3D'0'
CURRENT_INTERFACES=3D''
CONTROL_DOMAIN_UUID=3D'2b6c86bc-a4fb-3854-3430-37f9e126c678'
MANAGEMENT_INTERFACE=3D'xenbr0'
INSTALLATION_UUID=3D'398bdbca-bb6b-ca54-5ba0-943deec7103d'


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--14dae9cdcbbfa8fa2b04b507607d-- --===============4201867612121334519== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============4201867612121334519==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 28 14:27:55 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:27:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RfuTq-0005SI-Gt; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:27:46 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RfuTp-0005Ro-2j for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:27:45 +0000 X-Env-Sender: huxuelei630@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1325082420!53991686!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.214.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.2 required=7.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9972 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2011 14:27:01 -0000 Received: from mail-tul01m020-f171.google.com (HELO mail-tul01m020-f171.google.com) (209.85.214.171) by server-4.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Dec 2011 14:27:01 -0000 Received: by obbwd20 with SMTP id wd20so33974911obb.30 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 06:27:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oTgaq4epLJHtRfWnqUNIA5CAYGB4ZwibbGiHOo+JVH8=; b=RHavjXM2WFKAQyJMStv+QBS37dcpE2MSNo3Vlozlyy8hFiWn8hAvrld8M8TGF7rDPO q8lxBXPHUQQXC+7PS9A3Fuh26uY/kKF1G94CteYbV1qHv2YeXyGCHLF29hzppLv/zab1 LQOzNVsWVGDJ7UY9BnH3sb97Kn/aQbycM4m5o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.191.225 with SMTP id hb1mr36176905igc.17.1325082456320; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 06:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.237.3 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 06:27:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:27:36 +0800 Message-ID: From: Hu Xuelei To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] Help, about build xcp. X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1728644369914160553==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============1728644369914160553== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93410c91b690104b527cded --14dae93410c91b690104b527cded Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform. I have download the source code iso from http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/sources/source-1.iso, but I do not know how to build it.There are too many directories, rpms. I have tried to build the Xen in the ISO, but failed. I have searched many website, I found nothing. I even tried diffierent linux, such as REHL 5 x86_64, CentOS 5.5 32bit, failed at last too. I felt very bad at this time, I really do not know how to make a progress. If any one know something, please help me. thanks. --14dae93410c91b690104b527cded Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform.
=A0
I have download the source code iso from http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/s= ources/source-1.iso, but I do not know how to build it.There are too ma= ny directories, rpms.
=A0
I have tried to build the Xen in the ISO, but failed. I have searched = many website, I found nothing. I even tried diffierent linux, such as REHL = 5 x86_64, CentOS 5.5 32bit, failed at last too.
=A0
I felt very bad at this time, I really do not know how to make a progr= ess.
=A0
If any one know something, please help me. thanks.
--14dae93410c91b690104b527cded-- --===============1728644369914160553== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============1728644369914160553==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 28 14:27:55 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:27:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RfuTq-0005SI-Gt; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:27:46 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RfuTp-0005Ro-2j for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:27:45 +0000 X-Env-Sender: huxuelei630@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1325082420!53991686!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.214.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.2 required=7.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9972 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2011 14:27:01 -0000 Received: from mail-tul01m020-f171.google.com (HELO mail-tul01m020-f171.google.com) (209.85.214.171) by server-4.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Dec 2011 14:27:01 -0000 Received: by obbwd20 with SMTP id wd20so33974911obb.30 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 06:27:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oTgaq4epLJHtRfWnqUNIA5CAYGB4ZwibbGiHOo+JVH8=; b=RHavjXM2WFKAQyJMStv+QBS37dcpE2MSNo3Vlozlyy8hFiWn8hAvrld8M8TGF7rDPO q8lxBXPHUQQXC+7PS9A3Fuh26uY/kKF1G94CteYbV1qHv2YeXyGCHLF29hzppLv/zab1 LQOzNVsWVGDJ7UY9BnH3sb97Kn/aQbycM4m5o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.191.225 with SMTP id hb1mr36176905igc.17.1325082456320; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 06:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.237.3 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 06:27:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:27:36 +0800 Message-ID: From: Hu Xuelei To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] Help, about build xcp. X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1728644369914160553==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============1728644369914160553== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93410c91b690104b527cded --14dae93410c91b690104b527cded Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform. I have download the source code iso from http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/sources/source-1.iso, but I do not know how to build it.There are too many directories, rpms. I have tried to build the Xen in the ISO, but failed. I have searched many website, I found nothing. I even tried diffierent linux, such as REHL 5 x86_64, CentOS 5.5 32bit, failed at last too. I felt very bad at this time, I really do not know how to make a progress. If any one know something, please help me. thanks. --14dae93410c91b690104b527cded Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform.
=A0
I have download the source code iso from http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/s= ources/source-1.iso, but I do not know how to build it.There are too ma= ny directories, rpms.
=A0
I have tried to build the Xen in the ISO, but failed. I have searched = many website, I found nothing. I even tried diffierent linux, such as REHL = 5 x86_64, CentOS 5.5 32bit, failed at last too.
=A0
I felt very bad at this time, I really do not know how to make a progr= ess.
=A0
If any one know something, please help me. thanks.
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X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7560860046074621565==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7560860046074621565== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000608030103040507090808" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000608030103040507090808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The ISO is the most simple way to get XCP installed. Be aware that this is a hypervisor product w/ the XCP platform attached. You just boot from the cd and install away. Then you need something like Xen Center or I guess something called Xen Open Manager if you want an easy to use GUI interface to created, deleted and edit VMs. If your goal is to run XCP ontop of a distro such as Debian or Ubuntu, then you need to change the Kernel and I would recommend the XCP Wiki and Xen Hypervisor wiki as the best place to start over. This part was such a pain for me (since I want to manage it with a GUI and not a command line) that I eventually just ended up giving up on XEN. But you need the XEN Hypervisor installed first, then you can install XCP(from my undestanding). If you are just trying to use one machine as a server for your VM Host, then I recommend the ISO as it's the most "plug and pray" method available. If your hardware is in some manner that isn't supported by the ISO, then you will need to get things going to set it up correctly w/ the proper kernel. If this becomes too confusing (as it has for me) there are other software options available such as Qemu and KVM. But I wouldn't jump on those unless you have exhausted all options and time on getting XEN up and running. Just focus on getting the Xen Hypervisor running (which i believe there is even a pkg available for) then worry about getting XCP installed. Scott On 12/28/11 8:27 AM, Hu Xuelei wrote: > Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform. > I have download the source code iso from > http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/sources/source-1.iso, but I do not > know how to build it.There are too many directories, rpms. > I have tried to build the Xen in the ISO, but failed. I have searched > many website, I found nothing. I even tried diffierent linux, such as > REHL 5 x86_64, CentOS 5.5 32bit, failed at last too. > I felt very bad at this time, I really do not know how to make a progress. > If any one know something, please help me. thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --------------000608030103040507090808 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The ISO is the most simple way to get XCP installed.  Be aware that this is a hypervisor product w/ the XCP platform attached.  You just boot from the cd and install away.  Then you need something like Xen Center or I guess something called Xen Open Manager if you want an easy to use GUI interface to created, deleted and edit VMs.

If your goal is to run XCP ontop of a distro such as Debian or Ubuntu, then you need to change the Kernel and I would recommend the XCP Wiki and Xen Hypervisor wiki as the best place to start over. This part was such a pain for me (since I want to manage it with a GUI and not a command line) that I eventually just ended up giving up on XEN.  But you need the XEN Hypervisor installed first, then you can install XCP(from my undestanding).

If you are just trying to use one machine as a server for your VM Host, then I recommend the ISO as it's the most "plug and pray" method available.

If your hardware is in some manner that isn't supported by the ISO, then you will need to get things going to set it up correctly w/ the proper kernel.

If this becomes too confusing (as it has for me) there are other software options available such as Qemu and KVM.  But I wouldn't jump on those unless you have exhausted all options and time on getting XEN up and running. Just focus on getting the Xen Hypervisor running (which i believe there is even a pkg available for) then worry about getting XCP installed.

Scott


On 12/28/11 8:27 AM, Hu Xuelei wrote:
Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform.
 
I have download the source code iso from http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/sources/source-1.iso, but I do not know how to build it.There are too many directories, rpms.
 
I have tried to build the Xen in the ISO, but failed. I have searched many website, I found nothing. I even tried diffierent linux, such as REHL 5 x86_64, CentOS 5.5 32bit, failed at last too.
 
I felt very bad at this time, I really do not know how to make a progress.
 
If any one know something, please help me. thanks.


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--------------000608030103040507090808-- --===============7560860046074621565== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============7560860046074621565==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Wed Dec 28 17:09:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:09:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rfwzw-0007i9-GI; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:09:04 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rfwzv-0007i4-6j for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:09:03 +0000 X-Env-Sender: scottz@wi.rr.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1325092096!52188038!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.74.56.125] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNzEuNzQuNTYuMTI1ID0+IDQzNTMwOA==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12782 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2011 17:08:16 -0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (HELO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (71.74.56.125) by server-6.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2011 17:08:16 -0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=I83ntacg c=1 sm=0 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:17 a=akDsyBIaq0wA:10 a=PbD9IRBLmgMA:10 a=mLnsDVdbAAAA:8 a=SEF7xSSsAAAA:8 a=3aII3Jugbpx8utMA3scA:9 a=bAujSY4M9pFSt1yeOBQA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=kp2oor2yquzEU5Lhiz4A:9 a=-sb_zUSIlsyAakjIIqwA:7 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.56.78.150 Received: from [24.56.78.150] ([24.56.78.150:62021] helo=106.Red-80-38-100.staticIP.rima-tde.net) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 23/3B-03083-A2D4BFE4; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:08:58 +0000 Message-ID: <4EFB4D1F.2060306@wi.rr.com> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:08:47 -0600 From: Scott Zupek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Help, about build xcp. X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7560860046074621565==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7560860046074621565== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000608030103040507090808" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000608030103040507090808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The ISO is the most simple way to get XCP installed. Be aware that this is a hypervisor product w/ the XCP platform attached. You just boot from the cd and install away. Then you need something like Xen Center or I guess something called Xen Open Manager if you want an easy to use GUI interface to created, deleted and edit VMs. If your goal is to run XCP ontop of a distro such as Debian or Ubuntu, then you need to change the Kernel and I would recommend the XCP Wiki and Xen Hypervisor wiki as the best place to start over. This part was such a pain for me (since I want to manage it with a GUI and not a command line) that I eventually just ended up giving up on XEN. But you need the XEN Hypervisor installed first, then you can install XCP(from my undestanding). If you are just trying to use one machine as a server for your VM Host, then I recommend the ISO as it's the most "plug and pray" method available. If your hardware is in some manner that isn't supported by the ISO, then you will need to get things going to set it up correctly w/ the proper kernel. If this becomes too confusing (as it has for me) there are other software options available such as Qemu and KVM. But I wouldn't jump on those unless you have exhausted all options and time on getting XEN up and running. Just focus on getting the Xen Hypervisor running (which i believe there is even a pkg available for) then worry about getting XCP installed. Scott On 12/28/11 8:27 AM, Hu Xuelei wrote: > Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform. > I have download the source code iso from > http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/sources/source-1.iso, but I do not > know how to build it.There are too many directories, rpms. > I have tried to build the Xen in the ISO, but failed. I have searched > many website, I found nothing. I even tried diffierent linux, such as > REHL 5 x86_64, CentOS 5.5 32bit, failed at last too. > I felt very bad at this time, I really do not know how to make a progress. > If any one know something, please help me. thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --------------000608030103040507090808 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The ISO is the most simple way to get XCP installed.  Be aware that this is a hypervisor product w/ the XCP platform attached.  You just boot from the cd and install away.  Then you need something like Xen Center or I guess something called Xen Open Manager if you want an easy to use GUI interface to created, deleted and edit VMs.

If your goal is to run XCP ontop of a distro such as Debian or Ubuntu, then you need to change the Kernel and I would recommend the XCP Wiki and Xen Hypervisor wiki as the best place to start over. This part was such a pain for me (since I want to manage it with a GUI and not a command line) that I eventually just ended up giving up on XEN.  But you need the XEN Hypervisor installed first, then you can install XCP(from my undestanding).

If you are just trying to use one machine as a server for your VM Host, then I recommend the ISO as it's the most "plug and pray" method available.

If your hardware is in some manner that isn't supported by the ISO, then you will need to get things going to set it up correctly w/ the proper kernel.

If this becomes too confusing (as it has for me) there are other software options available such as Qemu and KVM.  But I wouldn't jump on those unless you have exhausted all options and time on getting XEN up and running. Just focus on getting the Xen Hypervisor running (which i believe there is even a pkg available for) then worry about getting XCP installed.

Scott


On 12/28/11 8:27 AM, Hu Xuelei wrote:
Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform.
 
I have download the source code iso from http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/sources/source-1.iso, but I do not know how to build it.There are too many directories, rpms.
 
I have tried to build the Xen in the ISO, but failed. I have searched many website, I found nothing. I even tried diffierent linux, such as REHL 5 x86_64, CentOS 5.5 32bit, failed at last too.
 
I felt very bad at this time, I really do not know how to make a progress.
 
If any one know something, please help me. thanks.


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X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Hu Xuelei wrote: > Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform. > > I have download the source code iso from > http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/sources/source-1.iso, but I do not know > how to build it.There are too many directories, rpms. > You may want to take a look at Project Kronos: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Project_Kronos And building the XCP toolstack (XAPI) from source: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Compile_the_XCP_toolstack_from_source Hope that helps. Thanks, Todd -- Todd Deshane http://www.linkedin.com/in/deshantm http://blog.xen.org/ http://wiki.xen.org/ _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 29 04:42:30 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 04:42:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rg7oo-0000DX-8R; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 04:42:18 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rg7om-0000DP-Br for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 04:42:16 +0000 X-Env-Sender: todd.deshane.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1325133728!2314236!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.210.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.6 required=7.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 30538 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2011 04:42:09 -0000 Received: from mail-iy0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-iy0-f171.google.com) (209.85.210.171) by server-4.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Dec 2011 04:42:09 -0000 Received: by iagw33 with SMTP id w33so107761696iag.30 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:42:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=34LTi6kZHNnV3bgLuWQSMrGoqUnZ0UklLBhKh5ms0Lg=; b=xWzAcbipkkDnltlIoqUPBz7UaYqJnOO6qg88dC9D8xmawiOguuD/ms2fqDe8314ynE K3ABzHqPHLHAJBYhRFdVJIGcom3vQaX95dxiMbtBZy8DBbW4rOx63Y8Xkbi5KBNFCike 3C3RiQHNapNaksMverDrsZbpGtBpFUK3GrRhE= Received: by 10.50.214.38 with SMTP id nx6mr10560985igc.19.1325133727134; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:42:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.172.131 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:41:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Todd Deshane Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 23:41:46 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: WgYVoxGwy-XOyEysEEzZDrxjcCM Message-ID: To: Hu Xuelei Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Help, about build xcp. X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Hu Xuelei wrote: > Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform. > > I have download the source code iso from > http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/sources/source-1.iso, but I do not know > how to build it.There are too many directories, rpms. > You may want to take a look at Project Kronos: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Project_Kronos And building the XCP toolstack (XAPI) from source: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Compile_the_XCP_toolstack_from_source Hope that helps. Thanks, Todd -- Todd Deshane http://www.linkedin.com/in/deshantm http://blog.xen.org/ http://wiki.xen.org/ _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 29 17:59:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:59:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RgKFr-00080G-Rf; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:59:03 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RgKFq-000805-Ji; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:59:03 +0000 X-Env-Sender: torushikeshj@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1325181520!60598383!1 X-Originating-IP: [74.125.83.43] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.7 required=7.0 tests=BODY_RANDOM_LONG, HTML_10_20, HTML_MESSAGE, ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14, RCVD_BY_IP, spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 31261 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2011 17:58:40 -0000 Received: from mail-ee0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-ee0-f43.google.com) (74.125.83.43) by server-15.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Dec 2011 17:58:40 -0000 Received: by eekd4 with SMTP id d4so70933592eek.30 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:58:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hGoUF+vZbGKWE8tFoq9EJuH7Hd1/Cn0mUY3Xl8IjB5c=; b=a3PB1everLeOpwTaQOsoR8KFEJGEGOjDvrxlI7qJhT+TKS/Wacs2+aXXvQeKNMqpyK aU9Uoj4K55nn9pTNNehTKoTuZ/I1lh9SjovgXQBJLsfrp/djuQDlbE9tIR4cy/kjXFXe e3CRV1F1Nb1LfbdtjDMSx6WkDdoOsIvX0H/dY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.9.150 with SMTP id 22mr15109070eet.17.1325181539387; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:58:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.130.145 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:58:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:28:59 +0530 Message-ID: From: R J To: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, xen-users@lists.xensource.com, xen-api@lists.xensource.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=0016364c78d1eb08b604b53ede35 Subject: [Xen-API] BalloonWorkerThread issue X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --0016364c78d1eb08b604b53ede35 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c78d1eb08b104b53ede33 --0016364c78d1eb08b104b53ede33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello List, Merry Christmas to all !! Basically I'm trying to boot a Windows 2008R2 DC HVM with 90GB static max memory and 32GB static min. The node config is Dell M610 with X5660 and 96GB RAM and its running XCP 1.1 Many times the node crashes while booting HVM. Sometimes I get success. I have attached the HVM boot log of successful start. Many times the node hangs as soon as the BalloonWorkerThread is activated. In attached txt the ballon inflation rate is constant 4090 *XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 7924ms (2064k/s) * till the time it starts, the inflation rate shoots to 12554884 and the VM is live. *XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 12554884 page(s) in 32604ms (91243k/s) * *XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: de-activating * *XENUTIL: XenevtchnMapResources setting callback irq to 11 * Can some one help me understand the *BalloonWorkerThread *behavior ?* *Many thanks, Rushi --0016364c78d1eb08b104b53ede33 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello List,

Merry Christmas to all !!

Basically I'm tryin= g to boot a Windows 2008R2 DC HVM with 90GB static max memory and 32GB stat= ic min.

The node config is Dell M610 with X5660 and 96GB RAM and its= running XCP 1.1

Many times the node crashes while booting HVM. Sometimes I get success.=
I have attached the HVM boot log of successful start. Many times the no= de hangs as soon as the BalloonWorkerThread is activated.

In attache= d txt the ballon inflation rate is constant 4090
XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 7924ms= (2064k/s)=A0

till the time it starts, the inflation rate shoot= s to 12554884 and the VM is live.
XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: infla= ted balloon by 12554884 page(s) in 32604ms (91243k/s)
XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: de-activating
XENUTIL: Xenevtch= nMapResources setting callback irq to 11


Can some one help = me understand the BalloonWorkerThread behavior ?


M= any thanks,
Rushi

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List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --0016364c78d1eb08b604b53ede35 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c78d1eb08b104b53ede33 --0016364c78d1eb08b104b53ede33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello List, Merry Christmas to all !! Basically I'm trying to boot a Windows 2008R2 DC HVM with 90GB static max memory and 32GB static min. The node config is Dell M610 with X5660 and 96GB RAM and its running XCP 1.1 Many times the node crashes while booting HVM. Sometimes I get success. I have attached the HVM boot log of successful start. Many times the node hangs as soon as the BalloonWorkerThread is activated. In attached txt the ballon inflation rate is constant 4090 *XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 7924ms (2064k/s) * till the time it starts, the inflation rate shoots to 12554884 and the VM is live. *XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 12554884 page(s) in 32604ms (91243k/s) * *XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: de-activating * *XENUTIL: XenevtchnMapResources setting callback irq to 11 * Can some one help me understand the *BalloonWorkerThread *behavior ?* *Many thanks, Rushi --0016364c78d1eb08b104b53ede33 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello List,

Merry Christmas to all !!

Basically I'm tryin= g to boot a Windows 2008R2 DC HVM with 90GB static max memory and 32GB stat= ic min.

The node config is Dell M610 with X5660 and 96GB RAM and its= running XCP 1.1

Many times the node crashes while booting HVM. Sometimes I get success.=
I have attached the HVM boot log of successful start. Many times the no= de hangs as soon as the BalloonWorkerThread is activated.

In attache= d txt the ballon inflation rate is constant 4090
XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 7924ms= (2064k/s)=A0

till the time it starts, the inflation rate shoot= s to 12554884 and the VM is live.
XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: infla= ted balloon by 12554884 page(s) in 32604ms (91243k/s)
XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: de-activating
XENUTIL: Xenevtch= nMapResources setting callback irq to 11


Can some one help = me understand the BalloonWorkerThread behavior ?


M= any thanks,
Rushi

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4377843246133123168==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============4377843246133123168== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340623eb637b04b541ac9a --14dae9340623eb637b04b541ac9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi i just installed a fresh oneiric an followed the guide http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XCP_toolstack_on_a_Debian-based_distribution to install xcp. so far, this worked almost smooth. but now, i can't create any SR because of missing drivers. # xe sm-list has no output. the driver files are located at /usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/sm but the system doesn't seem to find them. i found http://xen.markmail.org/message/irxspdyer45skcmt?q=xen-api+driver+ext#query:xen-api%20driver%20ext+page:1+mid:zzybylsoe55gmh2o+state:results on the mailing list and created a symlink to XenAPI.py in /usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/sm, but that didn't help. any ideas how to find the error? any log-files to check? thanks, tom --14dae9340623eb637b04b541ac9a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi
i just installed a fresh oneiric an followed the guide=A0http= ://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XCP_toolstack_on_a_Debian-based_distribution=A0to = install xcp.
so far, this worked almost smooth. but now, i can't create any SR = because of missing drivers.

# xe sm-list=A0
<= div>has no output.=A0

the driver files are located= at
/usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/sm
but the system doesn't seem to find them.

i found<= /font>

on the mailing list and created = a symlink to XenAPI.py in /= usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/sm, but that didn't help.

any ideas how = to find the error? any log-files to check?

thanks, tom

--14dae9340623eb637b04b541ac9a-- --===============4377843246133123168== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============4377843246133123168==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 29 21:20:06 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:20:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RgNOF-00017V-3t; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:19:55 +0000 Received: from mail182.messagelabs.com ([85.158.139.83]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <1.tom.martin@googlemail.com>) id 1RgNOD-00017P-Io for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:19:53 +0000 X-Env-Sender: 1.tom.martin@googlemail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-182.messagelabs.com!1325193585!8998234!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.214.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 29675 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2011 21:19:47 -0000 Received: from mail-tul01m020-f171.google.com (HELO mail-tul01m020-f171.google.com) (209.85.214.171) by server-14.tower-182.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Dec 2011 21:19:47 -0000 Received: by obbwd20 with SMTP id wd20so39319674obb.30 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:19:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=JmrDYWdiKjLx5j9SFb+h9S6yHaPH7f61kGaj4x/xtP0=; b=q82tYW+XQUEBP0an9bVI4y5CKVvK94Et/L4zNpmLSae0t5g/c7Ldut1zYjQ3qXEugT MP1c/kQCcg6db2uQ2UaFYJn3dIRwR8gcAXzYSfzP4bB5UHr9vj6pEHND/eohM/EI5Q4r nzrzLGC5o8U4s3seW3JuvfrVJ/kgVvcQYD65Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.40.129 with SMTP id x1mr51030673igk.4.1325193585451; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:19:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.169.67 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:19:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:19:45 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: X0u-XA37yn_IY-ITA4aunpbQmy8 Message-ID: From: Tom Martin To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-API] Kronos - Fresh Install on Oneiric but no SM drivers X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4377843246133123168==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============4377843246133123168== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340623eb637b04b541ac9a --14dae9340623eb637b04b541ac9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi i just installed a fresh oneiric an followed the guide http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XCP_toolstack_on_a_Debian-based_distribution to install xcp. so far, this worked almost smooth. but now, i can't create any SR because of missing drivers. # xe sm-list has no output. the driver files are located at /usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/sm but the system doesn't seem to find them. i found http://xen.markmail.org/message/irxspdyer45skcmt?q=xen-api+driver+ext#query:xen-api%20driver%20ext+page:1+mid:zzybylsoe55gmh2o+state:results on the mailing list and created a symlink to XenAPI.py in /usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/sm, but that didn't help. any ideas how to find the error? any log-files to check? thanks, tom --14dae9340623eb637b04b541ac9a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi
i just installed a fresh oneiric an followed the guide=A0http= ://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XCP_toolstack_on_a_Debian-based_distribution=A0to = install xcp.
so far, this worked almost smooth. but now, i can't create any SR = because of missing drivers.

# xe sm-list=A0
<= div>has no output.=A0

the driver files are located= at
/usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/sm
but the system doesn't seem to find them.

i found<= /font>

on the mailing list and created = a symlink to XenAPI.py in /= usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/sm, but that didn't help.

any ideas how = to find the error? any log-files to check?

thanks, tom

--14dae9340623eb637b04b541ac9a-- --===============4377843246133123168== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============4377843246133123168==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 29 22:50:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:50:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RgOo0-0001U5-Mt; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:50:36 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RgOo0-0001U0-0n for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:50:36 +0000 X-Env-Sender: todd.deshane.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1325198990!48405652!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.210.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 13757 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2011 22:49:51 -0000 Received: from mail-iy0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-iy0-f171.google.com) (209.85.210.171) by server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Dec 2011 22:49:51 -0000 Received: by iagw33 with SMTP id w33so113889809iag.30 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:50:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7GT8rtdpvu1cTkmQY4j08iY0OuNwBmjes2BPrmD5cAs=; b=JkJ2GkKARH8eE6vjwZoD4/IUGdZkO+QQagem+BGTL/Hl8DVSY3kyy5VAuU782Gr32y Uqm8W5IzaxUY/WsBINszZmMyIbX4zgMPUf4m+hmgIEY1ajORTMxL6fOtMqfGhmL+cupA Q7dd7jAmTxA8uykTmPB3dA3TtFMg6uWnusMQY= Received: by 10.42.131.136 with SMTP id z8mr20494757ics.5.1325199033141; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:50:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.50.135 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:50:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Todd Deshane Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:50:12 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qvpUU7ABDoRjwft9rKkOVBwHew8 Message-ID: To: Tom Martin Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos - Fresh Install on Oneiric but no SM drivers X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Tom Martin wrote: > hi > i just installed a fresh oneiric an followed the > guide=A0http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XCP_toolstack_on_a_Debian-based_distribu= tion=A0to > install xcp. > so far, this worked almost smooth. but now, i can't create any SR because= of > missing drivers. I would recommend to use the Debian repositories on Ubuntu (that is what I am using): you can add a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d for example: kronos-debian.list, with the contents: =A0deb http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/debian/repo/apt/debian unstable maindeb-src http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/debian/repo/apt/debian unstable maindeb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ experimental maindeb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ experimental main That way, when we fix the Ubuntu repo, you can remove that file and use the Ubuntu one again. Do make sure that you have xcp-storage-managers installed. Hope that helps. Thanks, Todd -- = Todd Deshane http://www.linkedin.com/in/deshantm http://blog.xen.org/ http://wiki.xen.org/ _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Thu Dec 29 22:50:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:50:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RgOo0-0001U5-Mt; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:50:36 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RgOo0-0001U0-0n for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:50:36 +0000 X-Env-Sender: todd.deshane.xen@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1325198990!48405652!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.210.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 13757 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2011 22:49:51 -0000 Received: from mail-iy0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-iy0-f171.google.com) (209.85.210.171) by server-5.tower-27.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Dec 2011 22:49:51 -0000 Received: by iagw33 with SMTP id w33so113889809iag.30 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:50:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7GT8rtdpvu1cTkmQY4j08iY0OuNwBmjes2BPrmD5cAs=; b=JkJ2GkKARH8eE6vjwZoD4/IUGdZkO+QQagem+BGTL/Hl8DVSY3kyy5VAuU782Gr32y Uqm8W5IzaxUY/WsBINszZmMyIbX4zgMPUf4m+hmgIEY1ajORTMxL6fOtMqfGhmL+cupA Q7dd7jAmTxA8uykTmPB3dA3TtFMg6uWnusMQY= Received: by 10.42.131.136 with SMTP id z8mr20494757ics.5.1325199033141; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:50:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.50.135 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:50:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Todd Deshane Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:50:12 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qvpUU7ABDoRjwft9rKkOVBwHew8 Message-ID: To: Tom Martin Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Kronos - Fresh Install on Oneiric but no SM drivers X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Tom Martin wrote: > hi > i just installed a fresh oneiric an followed the > guide=A0http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XCP_toolstack_on_a_Debian-based_distribu= tion=A0to > install xcp. > so far, this worked almost smooth. but now, i can't create any SR because= of > missing drivers. I would recommend to use the Debian repositories on Ubuntu (that is what I am using): you can add a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d for example: kronos-debian.list, with the contents: =A0deb http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/debian/repo/apt/debian unstable maindeb-src http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/debian/repo/apt/debian unstable maindeb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ experimental maindeb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ experimental main That way, when we fix the Ubuntu repo, you can remove that file and use the Ubuntu one again. Do make sure that you have xcp-storage-managers installed. Hope that helps. Thanks, Todd -- = Todd Deshane http://www.linkedin.com/in/deshantm http://blog.xen.org/ http://wiki.xen.org/ _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 30 06:25:51 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 06:25:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RgVuP-00085h-9n; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 06:25:41 +0000 Received: from mail21.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.35]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RgVuN-00085I-9b for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 06:25:39 +0000 X-Env-Sender: huxuelei630@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1325226330!9809674!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.210.171] X-SpamReason: No, hits=1.2 required=7.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,ML_RADAR_SPEW_LINKS_14,RCVD_BY_IP,spamassassin: X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 31022 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2011 06:25:32 -0000 Received: from mail-iy0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-iy0-f171.google.com) (209.85.210.171) by server-6.tower-21.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Dec 2011 06:25:32 -0000 Received: by iagw33 with SMTP id w33so116860118iag.30 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:25:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=lIyo3qbAbRfCK2KGlW7jN9GJXCkQYRgoec7DCY5IeKM=; b=RbFnKWbKESBUkW3isqcyen96tbi/L81lXFiGIo055wOXLYMj78NHu5n9GprWONTT5X VfNaNCo6treXALD0OFKq1Or5xj7SBoMA1jpTUqW2mlwBpmEStPguC+4Gmtz0NXKuU3Mx fjJNroLK8Ai2uorvyf7Hk1gb5LqJ++S2Pvgpk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.6.233 with SMTP id e9mr44438919iga.17.1325226328441; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.237.3 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:25:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:25:28 +0800 Message-ID: From: Hu Xuelei To: Todd Deshane Cc: xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Help, about build xcp. X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0708249730334987376==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com --===============0708249730334987376== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f6467558dc4b104b5494c9d --e89a8f6467558dc4b104b5494c9d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks, Todd and Scott. But I am still confused. There are many rpms in the souce's ISO image.I do not know which package is need. I guess, I should compile xen source ,then xapi. Is that right? On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Todd Deshane wrote: > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Hu Xuelei wrote: > > Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform. > > > > I have download the source code iso from > > http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/sources/source-1.iso, but I do not > know > > how to build it.There are too many directories, rpms. > > > > You may want to take a look at Project Kronos: > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Project_Kronos > > And building the XCP toolstack (XAPI) from source: > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Compile_the_XCP_toolstack_from_source > > Hope that helps. > > Thanks, > Todd > > -- > Todd Deshane > http://www.linkedin.com/in/deshantm > http://blog.xen.org/ > http://wiki.xen.org/ > --e89a8f6467558dc4b104b5494c9d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Todd and Scott.

But I am still confused. There are many rpms= in the souce's ISO image.I do not know which package is need.

I= guess, I should compile xen source ,then xapi. Is that right?

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Todd Deshane <todd.deshane@xen.org> wrote= :
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Hu Xuelei <huxuelei630@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform.
>
> I have download the source code iso from
> http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/sources/source-1.iso= , but I do not know
> how to build it.There are too many directories, rpms.
>

You may want to take a look at Project Kronos:
http:= //wiki.xen.org/wiki/Project_Kronos

And building the XCP toolstack (XAPI) from source:
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Compile_the_XCP_toolstack_from_s= ource

Hope that helps.

Thanks,
Todd

--
Todd Deshane
http://ww= w.linkedin.com/in/deshantm
http://blog.xen.org/=
http://wiki.xen.org/=

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But I am still confused. There are many rpms= in the souce's ISO image.I do not know which package is need.

I= guess, I should compile xen source ,then xapi. Is that right?

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Todd Deshane <todd.deshane@xen.org> wrote= :
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Hu Xuelei <huxuelei630@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform.
>
> I have download the source code iso from
> http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/sources/source-1.iso= , but I do not know
> how to build it.There are too many directories, rpms.
>

You may want to take a look at Project Kronos:
http:= //wiki.xen.org/wiki/Project_Kronos

And building the XCP toolstack (XAPI) from source:
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Compile_the_XCP_toolstack_from_s= ource

Hope that helps.

Thanks,
Todd

--
Todd Deshane
http://ww= w.linkedin.com/in/deshantm
http://blog.xen.org/=
http://wiki.xen.org/=

--e89a8f6467558dc4b104b5494c9d-- --===============0708249730334987376== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ xen-api mailing list xen-api@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --===============0708249730334987376==-- From xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Fri Dec 30 08:11:29 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:11:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xen.org) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RgXYf-0001Tc-1d; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:11:21 +0000 Received: from mail27.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.147]) by lists.xen.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RgXYd-0001TX-MY for xen-api@lists.xensource.com; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:11:19 +0000 X-Env-Sender: scottz@wi.rr.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-27.messagelabs.com!1325232560!57882558!1 X-Originating-IP: [71.74.56.123] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=sa_preprocessor: VHJ1c3RlZCBJUDogNzEuNzQuNTYuMTIzID0+IDM4Mjk1OQ==\n X-StarScan-Version: 6.4.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18737 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2011 08:09:20 -0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (HELO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (71.74.56.123) by server-8.tower-27.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2011 08:09:20 -0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=SqgSGYy0 c=1 sm=0 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:17 a=akDsyBIaq0wA:10 a=PbD9IRBLmgMA:10 a=mLnsDVdbAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=jU4qhlNgAAAA:8 a=SEF7xSSsAAAA:8 a=LyZw2GwMFlxcY7WlRMsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=3JjEpTOFD7QA:10 a=ca_7Am2aNiYA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=gUKZ3fmYEtPXJJna1cIA:9 a=jeANL4wOF7uKO6nmG0EA:7 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=gYLmbyeAWP99KMhXiKxXOw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.56.78.150 Received: from [24.56.78.150] ([24.56.78.150:60730] helo=104.red-80-38-100.staticip.rima-tde.net) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 75/46-23543-0227DFE4; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:11:12 +0000 Message-ID: <4EFD721C.3010503@wi.rr.com> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:11:08 -0600 From: Scott Zupek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hu Xuelei References: In-Reply-To: Cc: "xen-api@lists.xensource.com" Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Help, about build xcp. X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2732805027864277359==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2732805027864277359== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010407080205040201070509" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010407080205040201070509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If this is a clean install, it's all been done for you already, you would want to download this BASE ISO. http://www.xen.org/download/xcp/index_1.1.0.html Burn it to a CD/DVD, boot from it install away. If you want something other than XCP then I mistook what you really wanted. If you are using a Ubuntu or Debian kernel then you need to get a DOM0 kernel installed instead of the one you are using, that is compatible with whatever linux verison you are using. On 12/30/11 12:25 AM, Hu Xuelei wrote: > Thanks, Todd and Scott. > > But I am still confused. There are many rpms in the souce's ISO > image.I do not know which package is need. > > I guess, I should compile xen source ,then xapi. Is that right? > > On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Todd Deshane > wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Hu Xuelei > wrote: > > Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform. > > > > I have download the source code iso from > > http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/sources/source-1.iso, but I > do not know > > how to build it.There are too many directories, rpms. > > > > You may want to take a look at Project Kronos: > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Project_Kronos > > And building the XCP toolstack (XAPI) from source: > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Compile_the_XCP_toolstack_from_source > > Hope that helps. > > Thanks, > Todd > > -- > Todd Deshane > http://www.linkedin.com/in/deshantm > http://blog.xen.org/ > http://wiki.xen.org/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --------------010407080205040201070509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If this is a clean install, it's all been done for you already, you would want to download this BASE ISO. http://www.xen.org/download/xcp/index_1.1.0.html

Burn it to a CD/DVD, boot from it install away.  If you want something other than XCP then I mistook what you really wanted.

If you are using a Ubuntu or Debian kernel then you need to get a DOM0 kernel installed instead of the one you are using, that is compatible with whatever linux verison you are using.





On 12/30/11 12:25 AM, Hu Xuelei wrote:
Thanks, Todd and Scott.

But I am still confused. There are many rpms in the souce's ISO image.I do not know which package is need.

I guess, I should compile xen source ,then xapi. Is that right?

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Todd Deshane <todd.deshane@xen.org> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Hu Xuelei <huxuelei630@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform.
>
> I have download the source code iso from
> http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/sources/source-1.iso, but I do not know
> how to build it.There are too many directories, rpms.
>

You may want to take a look at Project Kronos:
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Project_Kronos

And building the XCP toolstack (XAPI) from source:
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Compile_the_XCP_toolstack_from_source

Hope that helps.

Thanks,
Todd

--
Todd Deshane
http://www.linkedin.com/in/deshantm
http://blog.xen.org/
http://wiki.xen.org/



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X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xensource.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of API issues surrounding Xen List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2732805027864277359==" Sender: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2732805027864277359== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010407080205040201070509" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010407080205040201070509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If this is a clean install, it's all been done for you already, you would want to download this BASE ISO. http://www.xen.org/download/xcp/index_1.1.0.html Burn it to a CD/DVD, boot from it install away. If you want something other than XCP then I mistook what you really wanted. If you are using a Ubuntu or Debian kernel then you need to get a DOM0 kernel installed instead of the one you are using, that is compatible with whatever linux verison you are using. On 12/30/11 12:25 AM, Hu Xuelei wrote: > Thanks, Todd and Scott. > > But I am still confused. There are many rpms in the souce's ISO > image.I do not know which package is need. > > I guess, I should compile xen source ,then xapi. Is that right? > > On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Todd Deshane > wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Hu Xuelei > wrote: > > Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform. > > > > I have download the source code iso from > > http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/sources/source-1.iso, but I > do not know > > how to build it.There are too many directories, rpms. > > > > You may want to take a look at Project Kronos: > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Project_Kronos > > And building the XCP toolstack (XAPI) from source: > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Compile_the_XCP_toolstack_from_source > > Hope that helps. > > Thanks, > Todd > > -- > Todd Deshane > http://www.linkedin.com/in/deshantm > http://blog.xen.org/ > http://wiki.xen.org/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api --------------010407080205040201070509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If this is a clean install, it's all been done for you already, you would want to download this BASE ISO. http://www.xen.org/download/xcp/index_1.1.0.html

Burn it to a CD/DVD, boot from it install away.  If you want something other than XCP then I mistook what you really wanted.

If you are using a Ubuntu or Debian kernel then you need to get a DOM0 kernel installed instead of the one you are using, that is compatible with whatever linux verison you are using.





On 12/30/11 12:25 AM, Hu Xuelei wrote:
Thanks, Todd and Scott.

But I am still confused. There are many rpms in the souce's ISO image.I do not know which package is need.

I guess, I should compile xen source ,then xapi. Is that right?

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Todd Deshane <todd.deshane@xen.org> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Hu Xuelei <huxuelei630@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, I'am new in Xen Cloud Platform.
>
> I have download the source code iso from
> http://downloads.xen.org/XCP/42052/sources/source-1.iso, but I do not know
> how to build it.There are too many directories, rpms.
>

You may want to take a look at Project Kronos:
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Project_Kronos

And building the XCP toolstack (XAPI) from source:
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Compile_the_XCP_toolstack_from_source

Hope that helps.

Thanks,
Todd

--
Todd Deshane
http://www.linkedin.com/in/deshantm
http://blog.xen.org/
http://wiki.xen.org/



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