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Hi everybody,

just a quick reminder that the Xen Hackathon is in Oracle, March 6-8, 
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please sign up quickly, such that I get a feeling for the number of 
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accommodate more people than we planned for.

* If you think you will attend please sign up at: 
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Hackathon/March2012
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you do not yet have travel approved, please add "(provisional)" next to 
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Hi everybody,

just a quick reminder that the Xen Hackathon is in Oracle, March 6-8, 
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please sign up quickly, such that I get a feeling for the number of 
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* If you think you will attend please sign up at: 
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Hackathon/March2012
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* If you do not regularly contribute to the Xen a mailing lists, please 
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So many threads never get closure I wanted to send a quick follow up.

OVS 1.3 compiled, installed and functions as advertised.  If the bond is 
put into active-backup it will only listen on one interface.  That helped 
us track down another issue we were seeing where the VM VLAN traffic 
wasn't being passed to the VMs.  That turned out to be a problem with the 
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didn't help.  The only resolution was to install a PCIe card and move the 
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problem we were seeing with ARP/MAC table convergence which was causing us 
to see traffic instability for a long period of time (~5 minutes) when 
moving a VM from one compute node to another, or when the switching the 
active interface on the bond associated with VM traffic.  OVS 1.3 is a 
nice improvement to the 1.0.2 code shipped with XCP 1.1 and I would highly 
recommend it if you're seeing any strange behavior with your active-backup 
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So many threads never get closure I wanted to send a quick follow up.

OVS 1.3 compiled, installed and functions as advertised.  If the bond is 
put into active-backup it will only listen on one interface.  That helped 
us track down another issue we were seeing where the VM VLAN traffic 
wasn't being passed to the VMs.  That turned out to be a problem with the 
BMC sharing one of the Ethernet ports.  For some reason the driver for the 
BMC or for the Broadcom chipset is munging the VLAN packets, untagged 
packets are passed up the stack without any issue, but tagged packets are 
being munged.  Since I have a working XCP 1.1 DDK I was able to download 
the latest Broadcom driver and compile and install it.  Unfortunately it 
didn't help.  The only resolution was to install a PCIe card and move the 
VM VLAN traffic.  OVS 1.3 also allowed us to track down and resolve a 
problem we were seeing with ARP/MAC table convergence which was causing us 
to see traffic instability for a long period of time (~5 minutes) when 
moving a VM from one compute node to another, or when the switching the 
active interface on the bond associated with VM traffic.  OVS 1.3 is a 
nice improvement to the 1.0.2 code shipped with XCP 1.1 and I would highly 
recommend it if you're seeing any strange behavior with your active-backup 
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brooks@netgate.net writes:

> That helped us track down another issue we were seeing where
> the VM VLAN traffic wasn't being passed to the VMs.  That
> turned out to be a problem with the BMC sharing one of the
> Ethernet ports.  For some reason the driver for the BMC or for
> the Broadcom chipset is munging the VLAN packets, untagged
> packets are passed up the stack without any issue, but tagged
> packets are being munged.  Since I have a working XCP 1.1 DDK I
> was able to download the latest Broadcom driver and compile and
> install it.  Unfortunately it didn't help.  The only resolution
> was to install a PCIe card and move the VM VLAN traffic.

OVS 1.4 adds a feature called "VLAN splinters" that, if you
enable it on the problematic NIC, may allow you to use it with
Open vSwitch.
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brooks@netgate.net writes:

> That helped us track down another issue we were seeing where
> the VM VLAN traffic wasn't being passed to the VMs.  That
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> Ethernet ports.  For some reason the driver for the BMC or for
> the Broadcom chipset is munging the VLAN packets, untagged
> packets are passed up the stack without any issue, but tagged
> packets are being munged.  Since I have a working XCP 1.1 DDK I
> was able to download the latest Broadcom driver and compile and
> install it.  Unfortunately it didn't help.  The only resolution
> was to install a PCIe card and move the VM VLAN traffic.

OVS 1.4 adds a feature called "VLAN splinters" that, if you
enable it on the problematic NIC, may allow you to use it with
Open vSwitch.
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Good day

I'm having trouble with a VM running on XCP 1.1 (installed from CD). From
time to time, a scripted backup (which performs a snapshot, exports it to
an XVA, removes snapshot), gets itself "stuck" in at the exports phase.
I've checked the target disk twice for errors (negative) and so I can only
assume some internal XCP process is conflicting. The export does take quite
a while, as we're exporting over 300GB over USB, so it's more than feasible
some coalesce task attempts to run.

Strangely, this problem occurs on only one of nearly a dozen XCP
installations, all running this backup script.

I've done a little digging, and have found some coalesce errors in SM.log.
Pastebin link below:

http://pastebin.com/e9UirM20

Before exporting the snapshot, the scripts sets the is-a-template parameter
to false, essentially making the snapshot a functional VM in its own rite.
Could this be confusing the coalesce tool? If so, why only now and only on
this server?

Help would be appreciated... The export has hung (last modified time 06:33)
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Good day<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m having trouble with a VM running on XCP=
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<div><br></div><div>Strangely, this problem occurs on only one of nearly a =
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</div><div><br></div><div>Before exporting the snapshot, the scripts sets t=
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, why only now and only on this server?</div>

<div><br></div><div>Help would be=C2=A0appreciated... The export has hung (=
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Good day

I'm having trouble with a VM running on XCP 1.1 (installed from CD). From
time to time, a scripted backup (which performs a snapshot, exports it to
an XVA, removes snapshot), gets itself "stuck" in at the exports phase.
I've checked the target disk twice for errors (negative) and so I can only
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a while, as we're exporting over 300GB over USB, so it's more than feasible
some coalesce task attempts to run.

Strangely, this problem occurs on only one of nearly a dozen XCP
installations, all running this backup script.

I've done a little digging, and have found some coalesce errors in SM.log.
Pastebin link below:

http://pastebin.com/e9UirM20

Before exporting the snapshot, the scripts sets the is-a-template parameter
to false, essentially making the snapshot a functional VM in its own rite.
Could this be confusing the coalesce tool? If so, why only now and only on
this server?

Help would be appreciated... The export has hung (last modified time 06:33)
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Good day<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m having trouble with a VM running on XCP=
 1.1 (installed from CD). From time to time, a scripted backup (which perfo=
rms a snapshot, exports it to an XVA, removes snapshot), gets itself &quot;=
stuck&quot; in at the exports phase. I&#39;ve checked the target disk twice=
 for errors (negative) and so I can only assume some internal XCP process i=
s conflicting. The export does take quite a while, as we&#39;re exporting o=
ver 300GB over USB, so it&#39;s more than feasible some coalesce task attem=
pts to run.</div>

<div><br></div><div>Strangely, this problem occurs on only one of nearly a =
dozen XCP installations, all running this backup script.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>I&#39;ve done a little digging, and have found some coalesce errors =
in SM.log. Pastebin link below:</div>

<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://pastebin.com/e9UirM20">http://pastebi=
n.com/e9UirM20</a>
</div><div><br></div><div>Before exporting the snapshot, the scripts sets t=
he is-a-template parameter to false, essentially making the snapshot a func=
tional VM in its own rite. Could this be confusing the coalesce tool? If so=
, why only now and only on this server?</div>

<div><br></div><div>Help would be=C2=A0appreciated... The export has hung (=
last modified time 06:33) and, based on previous experience, the only solut=
ion is a host reboot.</div>

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Dear Community Members,

I am finally able to build a new website for Xen.org. The aim of this 
work is to create an engaging and integrated community web site that 
invites participation and acts as a portal for Xen users, developers and 
companies in the eco-system. You can give input on the site by going to 
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/New_Xen_Website

The new site will have several main areas:

The home page, which mainly acts as an aggregator for news and activity 
happening in the community. This should make it easier for newcomers to 
Xen, to have a brief look and get a feeling of the vibrancy of the Xen 
community.There is actually a lot of activity today: it is merely 
obscured and hidden as the activity is dispersed to many places. The 
home page will also provide a window into the new Xen.org blog, as well 
as sections for Xen events, etc.

An area for users. This area will provide information about Xen and Xen 
projects, will help you learn about Xen, will point people to downloads 
and Linux/Unix distributions that contain Xen, will help you find 
documentation,will help you get help and support, etc. Xen has 
traditionally been a very developer focused community.As a consequence 
we have not supported our users that well. I have some open questions in 
this area, where I will be looking for your input. For example: is there 
a preference for mailing lists, forums, or stackoverflow like 
functionality? How should we best link to Linux distributions and other 
projects that distribute Xen?

An eco-system area: this is essentially a searchable directory of 
product and projects that use Xen, modify Xen, build on top of Xen, 
distribute Xen, etc. It is also a directory of research around Xen and 
services such as consultancy, training, hosting and cloud vendors that 
are built on top of Xen. This section will be fairly interactive: the 
intention is that if you are a vendor, you can add an entry to the 
directory which will be approved by a moderator moderator before 
publication. As a user of the directory, you can rate, recommend, 
comment on vendors, products, projects, etc.

An area for developers: this contains project descriptions, links to 
downloads, codelines, information about governance, mailing lists, etc.

Other changes: the site will have the capability to register users. 
Generally, all areas of the site will be accessible without any user 
account, except for areas where you need to write to the site and 
identification is thus necessary. We envisage that we will be able to 
implement single sign-on capability for the new site and at least theXen 
wiki. There will be user profiles that allow you to provide information 
about how you use Xen, but ultimately you only have to provide what you 
are comfortable with. The idea is for example that I can implement 
functionality such as the old community spotlight section by just 
maintaining a list of profile names. Name, pictures, bio, etc. would be 
managed and maintained by you. I am also looking at capabilities, such 
as being able to send newsletters, to registered site users.

*Where I need your input*

**

We will consult you on questions such as look and feel, on a new or 
revamped Xen logo, on new panda's, on navigation, on some of the 
headlines and taglines.

In some areas we do not quite know what you want from Xen.org: e.g. 
should we have a user mailing list, user fora and/or support forum 
functionality similar to stackoverflow? Should we make the developer 
mailing lists accessible via the website?

I also wanted to get views on whether it is OK to require logging into 
the site before you download a Xen or XCP binary. My thinking is that 
this is not good, but that it is OK to ask you nicely to sign in and/or 
create an account before you download. Having some information about its 
users is important to maintain the long term health of an open source 
project: today Xen has very little information about its users. 
Mainly,because we never asked. Providing information is an easy way how 
you can give something back to the community.

Another area where we will consult you is on how we migrate you from 
existing systems to the new one. Is it OK, to migrate existing users to 
the new site (using some kind of opt-out or activation scheme)? Is it 
not, etc.?

Links to feedback sheets, mockups, etc. can be found here: 
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/New_Xen_Website

Looking forward to hear from you

Best Regards
Lars
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      developers and
      companies in the eco-system. You can give input on the site by
      going to <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/New_Xen_Website">http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/New_Xen_Website</a><br>
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      newcomers to Xen, to have a brief look and get a feeling of the
      vibrancy of the
      Xen community.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>There is
      actually a lot
      of activity today: it is merely obscured and hidden as the
      activity is
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      Xen.org blog, as well as sections for Xen events, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">An area for users. This area will provide
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      and support, etc. Xen has traditionally been a very developer
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      consequence we have not
      supported our users that well. I have some open questions in this
      area, where I
      will be looking for your input. For example: is there a preference
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      lists, forums, or stackoverflow like functionality? How should we
      best link to
      Linux distributions and other projects that distribute Xen?<o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">An eco-system area: this is essentially a
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      services such as consultancy, training, hosting and cloud vendors
      that are
      built on top of Xen. This section will be fairly interactive: the
      intention is
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      profiles that
      allow you to provide information about how you use Xen, but
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      example that I
      can implement functionality such as the old community spotlight
      section by just
      maintaining a list of profile names. Name, pictures, bio, etc.
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    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p>In some areas we do not quite know
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      Xen.org: e.g. should we have a user mailing list, user fora and/or
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      developer
      mailing lists accessible via the website? <o:p></o:p>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">I also wanted to get views on whether it is OK
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      thinking is
      that this is not good, but that it is OK to ask you nicely to sign
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      create an account before you download. Having some information
      about its users
      is important to maintain the long term health of an open source
      project: today
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Dear Community Members,

I am finally able to build a new website for Xen.org. The aim of this 
work is to create an engaging and integrated community web site that 
invites participation and acts as a portal for Xen users, developers and 
companies in the eco-system. You can give input on the site by going to 
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/New_Xen_Website

The new site will have several main areas:

The home page, which mainly acts as an aggregator for news and activity 
happening in the community. This should make it easier for newcomers to 
Xen, to have a brief look and get a feeling of the vibrancy of the Xen 
community.There is actually a lot of activity today: it is merely 
obscured and hidden as the activity is dispersed to many places. The 
home page will also provide a window into the new Xen.org blog, as well 
as sections for Xen events, etc.

An area for users. This area will provide information about Xen and Xen 
projects, will help you learn about Xen, will point people to downloads 
and Linux/Unix distributions that contain Xen, will help you find 
documentation,will help you get help and support, etc. Xen has 
traditionally been a very developer focused community.As a consequence 
we have not supported our users that well. I have some open questions in 
this area, where I will be looking for your input. For example: is there 
a preference for mailing lists, forums, or stackoverflow like 
functionality? How should we best link to Linux distributions and other 
projects that distribute Xen?

An eco-system area: this is essentially a searchable directory of 
product and projects that use Xen, modify Xen, build on top of Xen, 
distribute Xen, etc. It is also a directory of research around Xen and 
services such as consultancy, training, hosting and cloud vendors that 
are built on top of Xen. This section will be fairly interactive: the 
intention is that if you are a vendor, you can add an entry to the 
directory which will be approved by a moderator moderator before 
publication. As a user of the directory, you can rate, recommend, 
comment on vendors, products, projects, etc.

An area for developers: this contains project descriptions, links to 
downloads, codelines, information about governance, mailing lists, etc.

Other changes: the site will have the capability to register users. 
Generally, all areas of the site will be accessible without any user 
account, except for areas where you need to write to the site and 
identification is thus necessary. We envisage that we will be able to 
implement single sign-on capability for the new site and at least theXen 
wiki. There will be user profiles that allow you to provide information 
about how you use Xen, but ultimately you only have to provide what you 
are comfortable with. The idea is for example that I can implement 
functionality such as the old community spotlight section by just 
maintaining a list of profile names. Name, pictures, bio, etc. would be 
managed and maintained by you. I am also looking at capabilities, such 
as being able to send newsletters, to registered site users.

*Where I need your input*

**

We will consult you on questions such as look and feel, on a new or 
revamped Xen logo, on new panda's, on navigation, on some of the 
headlines and taglines.

In some areas we do not quite know what you want from Xen.org: e.g. 
should we have a user mailing list, user fora and/or support forum 
functionality similar to stackoverflow? Should we make the developer 
mailing lists accessible via the website?

I also wanted to get views on whether it is OK to require logging into 
the site before you download a Xen or XCP binary. My thinking is that 
this is not good, but that it is OK to ask you nicely to sign in and/or 
create an account before you download. Having some information about its 
users is important to maintain the long term health of an open source 
project: today Xen has very little information about its users. 
Mainly,because we never asked. Providing information is an easy way how 
you can give something back to the community.

Another area where we will consult you is on how we migrate you from 
existing systems to the new one. Is it OK, to migrate existing users to 
the new site (using some kind of opt-out or activation scheme)? Is it 
not, etc.?

Links to feedback sheets, mockups, etc. can be found here: 
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/New_Xen_Website

Looking forward to hear from you

Best Regards
Lars
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    <p class="MsoNormal">Dear Community Members,<o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">I am finally able to build a new website for
      Xen.org. The
      aim of this work is to create an engaging and integrated community
      web site
      that invites participation and acts as a portal for Xen users,
      developers and
      companies in the eco-system. You can give input on the site by
      going to <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/New_Xen_Website">http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/New_Xen_Website</a><br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">The new site will have several main areas:<o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">The home page, which mainly acts as an
      aggregator for news
      and activity happening in the community. This should make it
      easier for
      newcomers to Xen, to have a brief look and get a feeling of the
      vibrancy of the
      Xen community.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>There is
      actually a lot
      of activity today: it is merely obscured and hidden as the
      activity is
      dispersed to many places. The home page will also provide a window
      into the new
      Xen.org blog, as well as sections for Xen events, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">An area for users. This area will provide
      information
      about Xen and Xen projects, will help you learn about Xen, will
      point people to
      downloads and Linux/Unix distributions that contain Xen, will help
      you find
      documentation,<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>will help
      you get help
      and support, etc. Xen has traditionally been a very developer
      focused
      community.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>As a
      consequence we have not
      supported our users that well. I have some open questions in this
      area, where I
      will be looking for your input. For example: is there a preference
      for mailing
      lists, forums, or stackoverflow like functionality? How should we
      best link to
      Linux distributions and other projects that distribute Xen?<o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">An eco-system area: this is essentially a
      searchable
      directory of product and projects that use Xen, modify Xen, build
      on top of
      Xen, distribute Xen, etc. It is also a directory of research
      around Xen and
      services such as consultancy, training, hosting and cloud vendors
      that are
      built on top of Xen. This section will be fairly interactive: the
      intention is
      that if you are a vendor, you can add an entry to the directory
      which will be
      approved by a moderator moderator before publication. As a user of
      the
      directory, you can rate, recommend, comment on vendors, products,
      projects,
      etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">An area for developers: this contains project
      descriptions, links to downloads, codelines, information about
      governance,
      mailing lists, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">Other changes: the site will have the
      capability to
      register users. Generally, all areas of the site will be
      accessible without any
      user account, except for areas where you need to write to the site
      and
      identification is thus necessary. We envisage that we will be able
      to implement
      single sign-on capability for the new site and at least the<span
        style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>Xen wiki. There will be user
      profiles that
      allow you to provide information about how you use Xen, but
      ultimately you only
      have to provide what you are comfortable with. The idea is for
      example that I
      can implement functionality such as the old community spotlight
      section by just
      maintaining a list of profile names. Name, pictures, bio, etc.
      would be managed
      and maintained by you. I am also looking at capabilities, such as
      being able to
      send newsletters, to registered site users.<o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Where I need your input<o:p></o:p></b></p>
    <b>
    </b>
    <p class="MsoNormal">We will consult you on questions such as look
      and feel, on a
      new or revamped Xen logo, on new panda's, on navigation, on some
      of the
      headlines and taglines.<o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p>In some areas we do not quite know
      what you want from
      Xen.org: e.g. should we have a user mailing list, user fora and/or
      support
      forum functionality similar to stackoverflow? Should we make the
      developer
      mailing lists accessible via the website? <o:p></o:p>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">I also wanted to get views on whether it is OK
      to require
      logging into the site before you download a Xen or XCP binary. My
      thinking is
      that this is not good, but that it is OK to ask you nicely to sign
      in and/or
      create an account before you download. Having some information
      about its users
      is important to maintain the long term health of an open source
      project: today
      Xen has very little information about its users. Mainly,<span
        style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>because we never asked.
      Providing information
      is an easy way how you can give something back to the community.<o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">Another area where we will consult you is on
      how we migrate
      you from existing systems to the new one. Is it OK, to migrate
      existing users
      to the new site (using some kind of opt-out or activation scheme)?
      Is it not,
      etc.?<br>
      <o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">Links to feedback sheets, mockups, etc. can be
      found here: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/New_Xen_Website">http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/New_Xen_Website</a><br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">Looking forward to hear from you<br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">Best Regards<br>
      Lars<br>
      <b></b></p>
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On 01/14/2012 03:54 AM, George Shuklin wrote:
> Good day.
>
> Package xcp-storage-manager has no dependence on nfs-common. Without
> that package very non-intuitive error appear during type=nfs sr creation:
>
> Error code: SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_72
> Error parameters: , Required NFS server version unsupported
> [opterr=rpcinfo failed or timed out: return code 2],
>
> (and some idea - may be it can be rational to split SM to few packages
> - main, with refcounter and so on, and individual packages for every
> type? We don't need samba for systems without SMB, we don't need nfs
> for systems, who don't use NFS and so on. Making one big package is

Hi,

There's no absolute needs for NFS. You well may be using Samba
instead (which I do, I'm used to setting-up Samba share, I'm less
confident with NFS).

Adding a new Depends: would *force* everyone to install nfs-common,
which isn't something we want to do (NFS isn't strictly needed).

In the Debian package which I uploaded to SID, xcp-storage-managers
already has a Recommends: lvm2, nfs-common. I think that's really
enough. Remember: everything that is in the Recommends section
will be installed by default, unless you *manually* decide to not install
recommended software, either by using the --no-install-recommends
on the apt-get command line, or by adding this as an option in your
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d with something like that:

APT
   {
      Install-Recommends "false";
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So I think everything is fine by default, and that we have nothing
to change. Please let me know if you don't agree, and explain why
you think I'm wrong here.

Best regards,

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On 01/14/2012 03:54 AM, George Shuklin wrote:
> Good day.
>
> Package xcp-storage-manager has no dependence on nfs-common. Without
> that package very non-intuitive error appear during type=nfs sr creation:
>
> Error code: SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_72
> Error parameters: , Required NFS server version unsupported
> [opterr=rpcinfo failed or timed out: return code 2],
>
> (and some idea - may be it can be rational to split SM to few packages
> - main, with refcounter and so on, and individual packages for every
> type? We don't need samba for systems without SMB, we don't need nfs
> for systems, who don't use NFS and so on. Making one big package is

Hi,

There's no absolute needs for NFS. You well may be using Samba
instead (which I do, I'm used to setting-up Samba share, I'm less
confident with NFS).

Adding a new Depends: would *force* everyone to install nfs-common,
which isn't something we want to do (NFS isn't strictly needed).

In the Debian package which I uploaded to SID, xcp-storage-managers
already has a Recommends: lvm2, nfs-common. I think that's really
enough. Remember: everything that is in the Recommends section
will be installed by default, unless you *manually* decide to not install
recommended software, either by using the --no-install-recommends
on the apt-get command line, or by adding this as an option in your
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d with something like that:

APT
   {
      Install-Recommends "false";
   }

So I think everything is fine by default, and that we have nothing
to change. Please let me know if you don't agree, and explain why
you think I'm wrong here.

Best regards,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)


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On 01/09/2012 02:22 AM, Medhavini Buchade wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Thank you to all those who answered my doubts. Your suggestions were
> really helpful and now I have completely created a "Debian Lenny VM".

Lenny will be end of life in less than a month. You'd better considering
not using it anymore.

> Although the VM creation is complete and I can see the shell in
> "openxenmanager"; I am unable to view the console in "developer xen
> api". Whenever I try to see the console of that VM it gives me error
> as "load: class com.citrix.xenserver.console.Initialize.class not
> found". Have I missed something? Can anyone please guide me through
> the steps which will help me to view the console of the VM?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
Which version of XCP / XenServer do you use?

I was very surprised, after we added the hack so that we
can use /etc/xcp/xapi_version_override, to see that the
console now works with OpenXenManager running
on Kronos (xcp-xapi in Debian SID). :)

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On 01/09/2012 02:22 AM, Medhavini Buchade wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Thank you to all those who answered my doubts. Your suggestions were
> really helpful and now I have completely created a "Debian Lenny VM".

Lenny will be end of life in less than a month. You'd better considering
not using it anymore.

> Although the VM creation is complete and I can see the shell in
> "openxenmanager"; I am unable to view the console in "developer xen
> api". Whenever I try to see the console of that VM it gives me error
> as "load: class com.citrix.xenserver.console.Initialize.class not
> found". Have I missed something? Can anyone please guide me through
> the steps which will help me to view the console of the VM?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
Which version of XCP / XenServer do you use?

I was very surprised, after we added the hack so that we
can use /etc/xcp/xapi_version_override, to see that the
console now works with OpenXenManager running
on Kronos (xcp-xapi in Debian SID). :)

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2012/1/16 Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org>:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I have been asked when we should hold the next Xen Document Day. Rather than
> going through this every single month, I am proposing dates until March.
> I.e.
> - January 30, 2012

Is this still on?

> - Feb 27, 2012
> - March 26, 2012
> Please go to the Xen Document Days etherpad page
> (http://openetherpad.org/TSPGIEOBiS) to propose a new date or to vote for a
> day.
>
> I also listed items that could be worked on, on the etherpad page (and
> removed stuff which has been done). Feel free to add to it. It is actually
> quite incredible how much we (and YOU) did in the last two Xen Document
> Days. I wanted to thank everybody who was involved!
>
> I am also looking for a couple of volunteers (moderators), in particular in
> Asia and/or Australia and in the US who commit to being on the #xendocday
> IRC channels for a few hours and points other participates to this document
> and generally provides advice. If you are interested, please also sign up on
> the Xen Document Days etherpad page.
>
> Best Regards
> Lars
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2012/1/16 Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org>:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I have been asked when we should hold the next Xen Document Day. Rather than
> going through this every single month, I am proposing dates until March.
> I.e.
> - January 30, 2012

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> - Feb 27, 2012
> - March 26, 2012
> Please go to the Xen Document Days etherpad page
> (http://openetherpad.org/TSPGIEOBiS) to propose a new date or to vote for a
> day.
>
> I also listed items that could be worked on, on the etherpad page (and
> removed stuff which has been done). Feel free to add to it. It is actually
> quite incredible how much we (and YOU) did in the last two Xen Document
> Days. I wanted to thank everybody who was involved!
>
> I am also looking for a couple of volunteers (moderators), in particular in
> Asia and/or Australia and in the US who commit to being on the #xendocday
> IRC channels for a few hours and points other participates to this document
> and generally provides advice. If you are interested, please also sign up on
> the Xen Document Days etherpad page.
>
> Best Regards
> Lars
>
>
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Hi all,

2012/1/30 Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org>:
> On 30/01/2012 08:56, Roger Pau Monn=E9 wrote:

>>> I have been asked when we should hold the next Xen Document Day. Rather
>>> than
>>> going through this every single month, I am proposing dates until March.
>>> I.e.
>>> - January 30, 2012
>>
>> Is this still on?
>>
> I didn't get any feedback. Going forward, I think we should always hold

:((

> these on the last Monday of the month, starting from Feb.

Would it be possible to insert (i.e. quarterly) an extra doc day that
is on a bank holiday or weekend for us with dayjobs?
Of course it won't be fun if it's just me, but there got to be some
more people interested!!!

Florian

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Hi all,

2012/1/30 Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org>:
> On 30/01/2012 08:56, Roger Pau Monn=E9 wrote:

>>> I have been asked when we should hold the next Xen Document Day. Rather
>>> than
>>> going through this every single month, I am proposing dates until March.
>>> I.e.
>>> - January 30, 2012
>>
>> Is this still on?
>>
> I didn't get any feedback. Going forward, I think we should always hold

:((

> these on the last Monday of the month, starting from Feb.

Would it be possible to insert (i.e. quarterly) an extra doc day that
is on a bank holiday or weekend for us with dayjobs?
Of course it won't be fun if it's just me, but there got to be some
more people interested!!!

Florian

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On 01/04/2012 08:05 AM, George Shuklin wrote:
> Solution:
>
> Fix path to correct one.
>
> --- /tmp/etc/init.d/xcp-xapi    2011-12-12 15:41:13.000000000 +0400
> +++ /etc/init.d/xcp-xapi    2012-01-04 04:03:49.326368996 +0400
> @@ -95,8 +95,8 @@
>      # Check whether the md5 of the create-templates binary matches
> the one
>      # used previously. If not, recreate the templates.
>      if ! md5sum -c --status $TEMPLATES_MD5_STAMP ; then
> -        /usr/lib/xcp/lib/regenerate-templates start
> -        md5sum /usr/lib/xcp/lib/create_templates > $TEMPLATES_MD5_STAMP
> +        /usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/libexec/regenerate-templates start
> +        md5sum /usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/libexec/create_templates
> >$TEMPLATES_MD5_STAMP
>      fi
>  }
This has already been fixed in the Git (and in Debian),
and the solution was to package regenerate-templates /
create_templates in /usr/lib/xcp/lib rather than changing
the init.d script.

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On 01/04/2012 08:05 AM, George Shuklin wrote:
> Solution:
>
> Fix path to correct one.
>
> --- /tmp/etc/init.d/xcp-xapi    2011-12-12 15:41:13.000000000 +0400
> +++ /etc/init.d/xcp-xapi    2012-01-04 04:03:49.326368996 +0400
> @@ -95,8 +95,8 @@
>      # Check whether the md5 of the create-templates binary matches
> the one
>      # used previously. If not, recreate the templates.
>      if ! md5sum -c --status $TEMPLATES_MD5_STAMP ; then
> -        /usr/lib/xcp/lib/regenerate-templates start
> -        md5sum /usr/lib/xcp/lib/create_templates > $TEMPLATES_MD5_STAMP
> +        /usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/libexec/regenerate-templates start
> +        md5sum /usr/lib/xen-common/xapi/libexec/create_templates
> >$TEMPLATES_MD5_STAMP
>      fi
>  }
This has already been fixed in the Git (and in Debian),
and the solution was to package regenerate-templates /
create_templates in /usr/lib/xcp/lib rather than changing
the init.d script.

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On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:28:59PM +0530, R J wrote:
> Hello List,
> 
> Merry Christmas to all !!
> 
> Basically I'm trying to boot a Windows 2008R2 DC HVM with 90GB static max
> memory and 32GB static min.
> 
> The node config is Dell M610 with X5660 and 96GB RAM and its running XCP 1.1
> 
> Many times the node crashes while booting HVM. Sometimes I get success.


Node? Meaning dom0? Or the guest? Are you using dom0_mem=max:X argument?

> I have attached the HVM boot log of successful start. Many times the node
> hangs as soon as the BalloonWorkerThread is activated.

Which PV driver is this? Is this with the other ones: GPL one, Citrix, Novell, and
Oracle as well?

> 
> In attached txt the ballon inflation rate is constant 4090
> *XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 7924ms
> (2064k/s)  *
> 
> till the time it starts, the inflation rate shoots to 12554884 and the VM
> is live.
> *XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 12554884 page(s) in
> 32604ms (91243k/s) *
> *XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: de-activating *
> *XENUTIL: XenevtchnMapResources setting callback irq to 11 *
> 
> 
> Can some one help me understand the *BalloonWorkerThread *behavior ?*
> 
> 
> *Many thanks,
> Rushi

> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: Determined the following parameters from xenstore:
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/number:16 vcpu/weight:0 vcpu/cap:0 nx: 1 viridian: 1 apic: 1 acpi: 1 pae: 1 acpi_s4: 0 acpi_s3: 0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/0/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/1/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/2/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/3/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/4/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/5/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/6/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/7/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/8/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/9/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/10/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/11/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/12/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/13/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/14/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/15/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: tapdisk-control: init, 10 x 4k buffers 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: I/O queue driver: lio 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: tapdisk-log: started, level 0 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: received 'attach' message (uuid = 0) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: sending 'attach response' message (uuid = 0) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: received 'open' message (uuid = 0) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: Loading driver 'vhd' for vbd 0 /dev/VG_XenStorage-49740841-8056-06e2-373b-ec72084f6fb0/VHD-62c5a501-d662-4d38-a75c-a280e2929297 0x00000000 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: /dev/VG_XenStorage-49740841-8056-06e2-373b-ec72084f6fb0/VHD-62c5a501-d662-4d38-a75c-a280e2929297 version: tap 0x00010003, b: 15360, a: 307, f: 26, n: 1268376 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: opened image /dev/VG_XenStorage-49740841-8056-06e2-373b-ec72084f6fb0/VHD-62c5a501-d662-4d38-a75c-a280e2929297 (1 users, state: 0x00000001, type: 4) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: /dev/mapper/VG_XenStorage--49740841--8056--06e2--373b--ec72084f6fb0-VHD--8eae906c--8f44--4618--a850--3aaa5293408b version: tap 0x00010003, b: 15360, a: 3331, f: 3307, n: 0 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: opened image /dev/mapper/VG_XenStorage--49740841--8056--06e2--373b--ec72084f6fb0-VHD--8eae906c--8f44--4618--a850--3aaa5293408b (1 users, state: 0x00000003, type: 4) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: VBD CHAIN: 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: /dev/VG_XenStorage-49740841-8056-06e2-373b-ec72084f6fb0/VHD-62c5a501-d662-4d38-a75c-a280e2929297: type:vhd(4) storage:lvm(3) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: /dev/mapper/VG_XenStorage--49740841--8056--06e2--373b--ec72084f6fb0-VHD--8eae906c--8f44--4618--a850--3aaa5293408b: type:vhd(4) storage:lvm(3) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: sending 'open response' message (uuid = 0) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 vbd.uevent[add](backend/vbd/18/768): wrote /xapi/18/hotplug/vbd/768/hotplug = 'online'
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 vbd.uevent[add](backend/vbd/18/5696): wrote /xapi/18/hotplug/vbd/5696/hotplug = 'online'
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 ovs-vsctl: 00001|vsctl|INFO|Called as /usr/bin/ovs-vsctl list-ports xapi9
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 ovs-vsctl: 00001|vsctl|INFO|Called as /usr/bin/ovs-vsctl --timeout=30 -- --if-exists del-port vif18.0 -- add-port xapi9 vif18.0 -- set interface vif18.0 "external-ids:\"xs-vm-uuid\"=\"6591a403-0eba-30b4-96a6-e02a7db0607a\"" -- set interface vif18.0 "external-ids:\"xs-vif-uuid\"=\"3be54e6d-6d13-b04b-6735-24831e5169e5\"" -- set interface vif18.0 "external-ids:\"xs-network-uuid\"=\"7051ef99-4fcb-fa61-a10e-f98456e12e90\"" -- set interface vif18.0 "external-ids:\"attached-mac\"=\"d6:6d:60:7e:45:52\""
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 qemu.18: domid: 18 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 qemu.18: qemu: the number of cpus is 16 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 qemu.18: -videoram option does not work with cirrus vga device model. Videoram set to 4M. 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: Guest uuid = 6591a403-0eba-30b4-96a6-e02a7db0607a 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: Watching /local/domain/18/logdirty/next-active 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/18/command 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: char device redirected to /dev/pts/2 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: char device redirected to /dev/pts/3 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: qemu_map_cache_init nr_buckets = 4000 size 327680 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: shared page at pfn feffd 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: buffered io page at pfn feffb 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: Time offset set 0 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:00:00 (i440FX) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:01:00 (PIIX3) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:02:00 (Cirrus VGA) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: populating video RAM at ff000000 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: mapping video RAM from ff000000 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:03:00 (xen-platform) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: xs_read(/vm/6591a403-0eba-30b4-96a6-e02a7db0607a/log-throttling): read error 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: ROM memory area now RW 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:04:00 (RTL8139) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:01:01 (PIIX3 IDE) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:01:02 (USB-UHCI) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:01:03 (PIIX4 ACPI) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: xs_read(/local/domain/0/device-model/18/xen_extended_power_mgmt): read error 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: releasing VM 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: xs_read(): vncpasswd get error. /vm/6591a403-0eba-30b4-96a6-e02a7db0607a/vncpasswd. 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: I/O request not ready: 0, ptr: 0, port: 0, data: 0, count: 0, size: 0 
> Dec 29 17:38:15 n4 last message repeated 2 times
> Dec 29 17:38:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: Triggered log-dirty buffer switch 
> Dec 29 17:38:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: I/O request not ready: 0, ptr: 0, port: 0, data: 0, count: 0, size: 0 
> Dec 29 17:38:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: medium change watch on `hdd' (index: 1):  
> Dec 29 17:38:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: I/O request not ready: 0, ptr: 0, port: 0, data: 0, count: 0, size: 0 
> Dec 29 17:38:15 n4 last message repeated 11 times
> Dec 29 17:38:16 n4 HVM18[18302]: cirrus vga map change while on lfb mode 
> Dec 29 23:08:16 n4 ovs-vsctl: 00001|vsctl|INFO|Called as /usr/bin/ovs-vsctl --timeout=30 -- --if-exists del-port tap18.0 -- add-port xapi9 tap18.0
> Dec 29 17:38:16 n4 HVM18[18302]: mapping vram to f0000000 - f0400000 
> Dec 29 17:38:17 n4 HVM18[18302]: ROM memory area now RW 
> Dec 29 17:38:17 n4 HVM18[18302]: ROM memory area now RO 
> Dec 29 17:38:18 n4 HVM18[18302]: cirrus: blanking the screen line_offset=3072 height=768 
> Dec 29 17:38:34 n4 HVM18[18302]: cirrus: blanking the screen line_offset=1024 height=768 
> Dec 29 17:38:37 n4 HVM18[18302]: UNPLUG: protocol version set to 1 (drivers not blacklisted) 
> Dec 29 17:38:37 n4 HVM18[18302]: UNPLUG: protocol 1 active 
> Dec 29 17:38:37 n4 HVM18[18302]: UNPLUG: product_id: 1 build_number: 30876 
> Dec 29 17:38:37 n4 HVM18[18302]: UNPLUG: drivers not blacklisted 
> Dec 29 17:38:37 n4 HVM18[18302]: ide_unplug_harddisk: drive 0 
> Dec 29 17:38:37 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_dev_unplug: 00:04:00 
> Dec 29 17:38:37 n4 HVM18[18302]: net_tap_shutdown: model=tap,name=tap.0 
> Dec 29 23:08:38 n4 ovs-vsctl: 00001|vsctl|INFO|Called as /usr/bin/ovs-vsctl --timeout=30 -- --if-exists del-port tap18.0
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:  XEVTCHN: InstallDumpDeviceCallback: version mismatch (255 != 1) 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: XenevtchnAddDevice: FDO = 0xFFFFFA8044323970 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: Initialized tracing provider 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: StartDeviceFdo: ====> 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: XEVTCHN: IO hole: [00000000fbfa6000,00000000fc000000) mapped at FFFFF88002965000 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]: net_tap_shutdown: model=tap,name=tap.0 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: KERNEL: 6.1 (build 7600) platform WIN32_NT 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: SP: NONE 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: SUITES: 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: - TERMINAL 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: - DATACENTER 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: - SINGLEUSERTS 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: TYPE: SERVER 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: PV DRIVERS: VERSION: 5.6.0 BUILD: 30876 (Apr 30 2010.06:57:01) 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: 64-bit HVM 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]: net_tap_shutdown: model=tap,name=tap.0 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: ExpandGrantTable: GRANT TABLE 0: (0 - 511) at FFFFF88002966000 (fbfa7000) 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: XenEnterprise product string is present 
> Dec 29 17:38:39 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: PHYSICAL MEMORY: TOP = 00000016.8fc00000 
> Dec 29 17:38:39 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonTargetChanged: 94371840k -> 43792384k 
> Dec 29 17:38:39 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: activating 
> Dec 29 17:38:47 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 2230ms 
> Dec 29 17:38:47 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 7924ms (2064k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:38:47 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94355480k) 
> Dec 29 17:38:57 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 1794ms 
> Dec 29 17:38:57 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 9157ms (1786k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:38:57 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94339120k) 
> Dec 29 17:39:13 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 5070ms 
> Dec 29 17:39:13 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 14601ms (1120k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:39:13 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94322760k) 
> Dec 29 17:39:30 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 4321ms 
> Dec 29 17:39:30 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 16052ms (1019k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:39:30 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94306400k) 
> Dec 29 17:39:40 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonPodSweep: HYPERVISOR_memory_op(XENMEM_pod_sweep, ...) failed (fffffff4) 
> Dec 29 17:39:46 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 6099ms 
> Dec 29 17:39:46 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 15132ms (1081k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:39:46 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94290040k) 
> Dec 29 17:40:04 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 4492ms 
> Dec 29 17:40:04 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 17206ms (950k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:40:04 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94273680k) 
> Dec 29 17:40:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 2043ms 
> Dec 29 17:40:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 11294ms (1448k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:40:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94257320k) 
> Dec 29 17:40:27 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonPodSweep: HYPERVISOR_memory_op(XENMEM_pod_sweep, ...) failed (fffffff4) 
> Dec 29 17:40:32 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 5179ms 
> Dec 29 17:40:32 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 15100ms (1083k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:40:32 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94240960k) 
> Dec 29 17:40:46 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 2230ms 
> Dec 29 17:40:46 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 12870ms (1271k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:40:46 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94224600k) 
> Dec 29 17:41:01 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 5350ms 
> Dec 29 17:41:01 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 13228ms (1236k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:41:01 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94208240k) 
> Dec 29 17:41:14 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonPodSweep: HYPERVISOR_memory_op(XENMEM_pod_sweep, ...) failed (fffffff4) 
> Dec 29 17:41:17 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 3026ms 
> Dec 29 17:41:17 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 15490ms (1056k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:41:17 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94191880k) 
> Dec 29 17:41:31 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 3151ms 
> Dec 29 17:41:31 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 13291ms (1230k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:41:31 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94175520k) 
> Dec 29 17:41:49 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 5553ms 
> Dec 29 17:41:49 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 16832ms (971k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:41:49 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94159160k) 
> Dec 29 17:42:08 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 6754ms 
> Dec 29 17:42:08 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 18111ms (903k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:42:08 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94142800k) 
> Dec 29 17:42:28 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 3244ms 
> Dec 29 17:42:28 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 18392ms (889k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:42:28 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94126440k) 
> Dec 29 17:42:47 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 5725ms 
> Dec 29 17:42:47 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 18454ms (886k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:42:47 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94110080k) 
> Dec 29 17:43:08 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 4243ms 
> Dec 29 17:43:08 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 19453ms (841k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:43:08 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94093720k) 
> Dec 29 17:43:26 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 5241ms 
> Dec 29 17:43:26 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 17206ms (950k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:43:26 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94077360k) 
> Dec 29 17:43:44 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 1996ms 
> Dec 29 17:43:44 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 17253ms (948k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:43:44 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94061000k) 
> Dec 29 17:44:02 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 4773ms 
> Dec 29 17:44:02 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 16286ms (1004k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:44:02 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94044640k) 
> Dec 29 17:44:24 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 2152ms 
> Dec 29 17:44:24 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 21231ms (770k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:44:24 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94028280k) 
> Dec 29 17:44:40 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonPodSweep: HYPERVISOR_memory_op(XENMEM_pod_sweep, ...) failed (fffffff4) 
> Dec 29 17:44:42 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 2199ms 
> Dec 29 17:44:42 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 17331ms (943k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:44:42 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94011920k) 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 12554884 page(s) in 32604ms (91243k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: de-activating 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: XenevtchnMapResources setting callback irq to 11 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: PV init. done 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonTargetChanged: 43792384k -> 48911360k 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: activating 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: Detected new device vif/0. 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: closing device/vif/0... 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: device/vif/0 closed 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: StartDeviceFdo: <==== (00000000) 
> Dec 29 17:45:17 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: deflated balloon by 1279744 page(s) in 998ms (825660k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:45:17 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: de-activating 
> Dec 29 17:45:18 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: XENVBD in NORMAL mode. 
> Dec 29 17:45:18 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: XenvbdAddDevice: FDO = 0xFFFFFA804434B060 
> Dec 29 17:45:18 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: IO hole already initialized by XEVTCHN 
> Dec 29 17:45:18 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: Bugcheck callback already installed 
> Dec 29 17:45:18 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: Bugcheck reason callback already installed 
> Dec 29 17:45:18 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: RescanThread: starting 
> Dec 29 17:45:18 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: XenvbdHwInitialize setting callback irq to 30 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: DeviceRelationsFdo: scanning targets... 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: XenbusFindVbds: found new disk (VBD 768) 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: XenbusFindVbds: ignoring cdrom (VBD 5696) 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: claiming frontend... 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: successfuly claimed device/vbd/768 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: synthesising inquiry data: default page 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: unit serial number = '62c5a501-d662-4d  ' 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: device identifier[0]: CodeSet: 'Ascii' Type: 'VendorId' Assocation: 'Device' 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: device identifier[0]: Length = 45 Data = 'XENSRC  62c5a501-d662-4d38-a75c-a280e2929297 ' 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: closing frontend... 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: backend is closed 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: created 

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On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:28:59PM +0530, R J wrote:
> Hello List,
> 
> Merry Christmas to all !!
> 
> Basically I'm trying to boot a Windows 2008R2 DC HVM with 90GB static max
> memory and 32GB static min.
> 
> The node config is Dell M610 with X5660 and 96GB RAM and its running XCP 1.1
> 
> Many times the node crashes while booting HVM. Sometimes I get success.


Node? Meaning dom0? Or the guest? Are you using dom0_mem=max:X argument?

> I have attached the HVM boot log of successful start. Many times the node
> hangs as soon as the BalloonWorkerThread is activated.

Which PV driver is this? Is this with the other ones: GPL one, Citrix, Novell, and
Oracle as well?

> 
> In attached txt the ballon inflation rate is constant 4090
> *XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 7924ms
> (2064k/s)  *
> 
> till the time it starts, the inflation rate shoots to 12554884 and the VM
> is live.
> *XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 12554884 page(s) in
> 32604ms (91243k/s) *
> *XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: de-activating *
> *XENUTIL: XenevtchnMapResources setting callback irq to 11 *
> 
> 
> Can some one help me understand the *BalloonWorkerThread *behavior ?*
> 
> 
> *Many thanks,
> Rushi

> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: Determined the following parameters from xenstore:
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/number:16 vcpu/weight:0 vcpu/cap:0 nx: 1 viridian: 1 apic: 1 acpi: 1 pae: 1 acpi_s4: 0 acpi_s3: 0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/0/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/1/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/2/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/3/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/4/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/5/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/6/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/7/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/8/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/9/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/10/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/11/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/12/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/13/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/14/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:01 n4 xenguest: vcpu/15/affinity:0
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: tapdisk-control: init, 10 x 4k buffers 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: I/O queue driver: lio 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: tapdisk-log: started, level 0 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: received 'attach' message (uuid = 0) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: sending 'attach response' message (uuid = 0) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: received 'open' message (uuid = 0) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: Loading driver 'vhd' for vbd 0 /dev/VG_XenStorage-49740841-8056-06e2-373b-ec72084f6fb0/VHD-62c5a501-d662-4d38-a75c-a280e2929297 0x00000000 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: /dev/VG_XenStorage-49740841-8056-06e2-373b-ec72084f6fb0/VHD-62c5a501-d662-4d38-a75c-a280e2929297 version: tap 0x00010003, b: 15360, a: 307, f: 26, n: 1268376 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: opened image /dev/VG_XenStorage-49740841-8056-06e2-373b-ec72084f6fb0/VHD-62c5a501-d662-4d38-a75c-a280e2929297 (1 users, state: 0x00000001, type: 4) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: /dev/mapper/VG_XenStorage--49740841--8056--06e2--373b--ec72084f6fb0-VHD--8eae906c--8f44--4618--a850--3aaa5293408b version: tap 0x00010003, b: 15360, a: 3331, f: 3307, n: 0 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: opened image /dev/mapper/VG_XenStorage--49740841--8056--06e2--373b--ec72084f6fb0-VHD--8eae906c--8f44--4618--a850--3aaa5293408b (1 users, state: 0x00000003, type: 4) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: VBD CHAIN: 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: /dev/VG_XenStorage-49740841-8056-06e2-373b-ec72084f6fb0/VHD-62c5a501-d662-4d38-a75c-a280e2929297: type:vhd(4) storage:lvm(3) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: /dev/mapper/VG_XenStorage--49740841--8056--06e2--373b--ec72084f6fb0-VHD--8eae906c--8f44--4618--a850--3aaa5293408b: type:vhd(4) storage:lvm(3) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 tapdisk[18204]: sending 'open response' message (uuid = 0) 
> Dec 29 23:08:14 n4 vbd.uevent[add](backend/vbd/18/768): wrote /xapi/18/hotplug/vbd/768/hotplug = 'online'
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 vbd.uevent[add](backend/vbd/18/5696): wrote /xapi/18/hotplug/vbd/5696/hotplug = 'online'
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 ovs-vsctl: 00001|vsctl|INFO|Called as /usr/bin/ovs-vsctl list-ports xapi9
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 ovs-vsctl: 00001|vsctl|INFO|Called as /usr/bin/ovs-vsctl --timeout=30 -- --if-exists del-port vif18.0 -- add-port xapi9 vif18.0 -- set interface vif18.0 "external-ids:\"xs-vm-uuid\"=\"6591a403-0eba-30b4-96a6-e02a7db0607a\"" -- set interface vif18.0 "external-ids:\"xs-vif-uuid\"=\"3be54e6d-6d13-b04b-6735-24831e5169e5\"" -- set interface vif18.0 "external-ids:\"xs-network-uuid\"=\"7051ef99-4fcb-fa61-a10e-f98456e12e90\"" -- set interface vif18.0 "external-ids:\"attached-mac\"=\"d6:6d:60:7e:45:52\""
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 qemu.18: domid: 18 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 qemu.18: qemu: the number of cpus is 16 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 qemu.18: -videoram option does not work with cirrus vga device model. Videoram set to 4M. 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: Guest uuid = 6591a403-0eba-30b4-96a6-e02a7db0607a 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: Watching /local/domain/18/logdirty/next-active 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/18/command 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: char device redirected to /dev/pts/2 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: char device redirected to /dev/pts/3 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: qemu_map_cache_init nr_buckets = 4000 size 327680 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: shared page at pfn feffd 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: buffered io page at pfn feffb 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: Time offset set 0 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:00:00 (i440FX) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:01:00 (PIIX3) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:02:00 (Cirrus VGA) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: populating video RAM at ff000000 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: mapping video RAM from ff000000 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:03:00 (xen-platform) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: xs_read(/vm/6591a403-0eba-30b4-96a6-e02a7db0607a/log-throttling): read error 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: ROM memory area now RW 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:04:00 (RTL8139) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:01:01 (PIIX3 IDE) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:01:02 (USB-UHCI) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_register_device: 00:01:03 (PIIX4 ACPI) 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: xs_read(/local/domain/0/device-model/18/xen_extended_power_mgmt): read error 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: releasing VM 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: xs_read(): vncpasswd get error. /vm/6591a403-0eba-30b4-96a6-e02a7db0607a/vncpasswd. 
> Dec 29 23:08:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: I/O request not ready: 0, ptr: 0, port: 0, data: 0, count: 0, size: 0 
> Dec 29 17:38:15 n4 last message repeated 2 times
> Dec 29 17:38:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: Triggered log-dirty buffer switch 
> Dec 29 17:38:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: I/O request not ready: 0, ptr: 0, port: 0, data: 0, count: 0, size: 0 
> Dec 29 17:38:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: medium change watch on `hdd' (index: 1):  
> Dec 29 17:38:15 n4 HVM18[18302]: I/O request not ready: 0, ptr: 0, port: 0, data: 0, count: 0, size: 0 
> Dec 29 17:38:15 n4 last message repeated 11 times
> Dec 29 17:38:16 n4 HVM18[18302]: cirrus vga map change while on lfb mode 
> Dec 29 23:08:16 n4 ovs-vsctl: 00001|vsctl|INFO|Called as /usr/bin/ovs-vsctl --timeout=30 -- --if-exists del-port tap18.0 -- add-port xapi9 tap18.0
> Dec 29 17:38:16 n4 HVM18[18302]: mapping vram to f0000000 - f0400000 
> Dec 29 17:38:17 n4 HVM18[18302]: ROM memory area now RW 
> Dec 29 17:38:17 n4 HVM18[18302]: ROM memory area now RO 
> Dec 29 17:38:18 n4 HVM18[18302]: cirrus: blanking the screen line_offset=3072 height=768 
> Dec 29 17:38:34 n4 HVM18[18302]: cirrus: blanking the screen line_offset=1024 height=768 
> Dec 29 17:38:37 n4 HVM18[18302]: UNPLUG: protocol version set to 1 (drivers not blacklisted) 
> Dec 29 17:38:37 n4 HVM18[18302]: UNPLUG: protocol 1 active 
> Dec 29 17:38:37 n4 HVM18[18302]: UNPLUG: product_id: 1 build_number: 30876 
> Dec 29 17:38:37 n4 HVM18[18302]: UNPLUG: drivers not blacklisted 
> Dec 29 17:38:37 n4 HVM18[18302]: ide_unplug_harddisk: drive 0 
> Dec 29 17:38:37 n4 HVM18[18302]: pci_dev_unplug: 00:04:00 
> Dec 29 17:38:37 n4 HVM18[18302]: net_tap_shutdown: model=tap,name=tap.0 
> Dec 29 23:08:38 n4 ovs-vsctl: 00001|vsctl|INFO|Called as /usr/bin/ovs-vsctl --timeout=30 -- --if-exists del-port tap18.0
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:  XEVTCHN: InstallDumpDeviceCallback: version mismatch (255 != 1) 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: XenevtchnAddDevice: FDO = 0xFFFFFA8044323970 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: Initialized tracing provider 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: StartDeviceFdo: ====> 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: XEVTCHN: IO hole: [00000000fbfa6000,00000000fc000000) mapped at FFFFF88002965000 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]: net_tap_shutdown: model=tap,name=tap.0 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: KERNEL: 6.1 (build 7600) platform WIN32_NT 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: SP: NONE 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: SUITES: 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: - TERMINAL 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: - DATACENTER 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: - SINGLEUSERTS 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: TYPE: SERVER 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: PV DRIVERS: VERSION: 5.6.0 BUILD: 30876 (Apr 30 2010.06:57:01) 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: 64-bit HVM 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]: net_tap_shutdown: model=tap,name=tap.0 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: ExpandGrantTable: GRANT TABLE 0: (0 - 511) at FFFFF88002966000 (fbfa7000) 
> Dec 29 17:38:38 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: XenEnterprise product string is present 
> Dec 29 17:38:39 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: PHYSICAL MEMORY: TOP = 00000016.8fc00000 
> Dec 29 17:38:39 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonTargetChanged: 94371840k -> 43792384k 
> Dec 29 17:38:39 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: activating 
> Dec 29 17:38:47 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 2230ms 
> Dec 29 17:38:47 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 7924ms (2064k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:38:47 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94355480k) 
> Dec 29 17:38:57 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 1794ms 
> Dec 29 17:38:57 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 9157ms (1786k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:38:57 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94339120k) 
> Dec 29 17:39:13 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 5070ms 
> Dec 29 17:39:13 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 14601ms (1120k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:39:13 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94322760k) 
> Dec 29 17:39:30 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 4321ms 
> Dec 29 17:39:30 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 16052ms (1019k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:39:30 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94306400k) 
> Dec 29 17:39:40 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonPodSweep: HYPERVISOR_memory_op(XENMEM_pod_sweep, ...) failed (fffffff4) 
> Dec 29 17:39:46 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 6099ms 
> Dec 29 17:39:46 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 15132ms (1081k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:39:46 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94290040k) 
> Dec 29 17:40:04 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 4492ms 
> Dec 29 17:40:04 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 17206ms (950k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:40:04 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94273680k) 
> Dec 29 17:40:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 2043ms 
> Dec 29 17:40:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 11294ms (1448k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:40:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94257320k) 
> Dec 29 17:40:27 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonPodSweep: HYPERVISOR_memory_op(XENMEM_pod_sweep, ...) failed (fffffff4) 
> Dec 29 17:40:32 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 5179ms 
> Dec 29 17:40:32 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 15100ms (1083k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:40:32 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94240960k) 
> Dec 29 17:40:46 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 2230ms 
> Dec 29 17:40:46 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 12870ms (1271k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:40:46 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94224600k) 
> Dec 29 17:41:01 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 5350ms 
> Dec 29 17:41:01 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 13228ms (1236k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:41:01 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94208240k) 
> Dec 29 17:41:14 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonPodSweep: HYPERVISOR_memory_op(XENMEM_pod_sweep, ...) failed (fffffff4) 
> Dec 29 17:41:17 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 3026ms 
> Dec 29 17:41:17 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 15490ms (1056k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:41:17 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94191880k) 
> Dec 29 17:41:31 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 3151ms 
> Dec 29 17:41:31 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 13291ms (1230k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:41:31 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94175520k) 
> Dec 29 17:41:49 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 5553ms 
> Dec 29 17:41:49 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 16832ms (971k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:41:49 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94159160k) 
> Dec 29 17:42:08 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 6754ms 
> Dec 29 17:42:08 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 18111ms (903k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:42:08 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94142800k) 
> Dec 29 17:42:28 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 3244ms 
> Dec 29 17:42:28 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 18392ms (889k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:42:28 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94126440k) 
> Dec 29 17:42:47 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 5725ms 
> Dec 29 17:42:47 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 18454ms (886k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:42:47 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94110080k) 
> Dec 29 17:43:08 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 4243ms 
> Dec 29 17:43:08 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 19453ms (841k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:43:08 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94093720k) 
> Dec 29 17:43:26 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 5241ms 
> Dec 29 17:43:26 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 17206ms (950k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:43:26 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94077360k) 
> Dec 29 17:43:44 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 1996ms 
> Dec 29 17:43:44 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 17253ms (948k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:43:44 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94061000k) 
> Dec 29 17:44:02 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 4773ms 
> Dec 29 17:44:02 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 16286ms (1004k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:44:02 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94044640k) 
> Dec 29 17:44:24 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 2152ms 
> Dec 29 17:44:24 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 21231ms (770k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:44:24 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94028280k) 
> Dec 29 17:44:40 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonPodSweep: HYPERVISOR_memory_op(XENMEM_pod_sweep, ...) failed (fffffff4) 
> Dec 29 17:44:42 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: BalloonReleasePfnArray: ran for more than 2199ms 
> Dec 29 17:44:42 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 4090 page(s) in 17331ms (943k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:44:42 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: pausing for 1s (target = 43792384k, current = 94011920k) 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: inflated balloon by 12554884 page(s) in 32604ms (91243k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: de-activating 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: XenevtchnMapResources setting callback irq to 11 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: PV init. done 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonTargetChanged: 43792384k -> 48911360k 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: activating 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: Detected new device vif/0. 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: closing device/vif/0... 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: device/vif/0 closed 
> Dec 29 17:45:16 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XEVTCHN: StartDeviceFdo: <==== (00000000) 
> Dec 29 17:45:17 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: deflated balloon by 1279744 page(s) in 998ms (825660k/s) 
> Dec 29 17:45:17 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: BalloonWorkerThread: de-activating 
> Dec 29 17:45:18 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: XENVBD in NORMAL mode. 
> Dec 29 17:45:18 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: XenvbdAddDevice: FDO = 0xFFFFFA804434B060 
> Dec 29 17:45:18 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: IO hole already initialized by XEVTCHN 
> Dec 29 17:45:18 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: Bugcheck callback already installed 
> Dec 29 17:45:18 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: WARNING: Bugcheck reason callback already installed 
> Dec 29 17:45:18 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: RescanThread: starting 
> Dec 29 17:45:18 n4 HVM18[18302]:   XENUTIL: XenvbdHwInitialize setting callback irq to 30 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: DeviceRelationsFdo: scanning targets... 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: XenbusFindVbds: found new disk (VBD 768) 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: XenbusFindVbds: ignoring cdrom (VBD 5696) 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: claiming frontend... 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: successfuly claimed device/vbd/768 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: synthesising inquiry data: default page 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: unit serial number = '62c5a501-d662-4d  ' 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: device identifier[0]: CodeSet: 'Ascii' Type: 'VendorId' Assocation: 'Device' 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: device identifier[0]: Length = 45 Data = 'XENSRC  62c5a501-d662-4d38-a75c-a280e2929297 ' 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: closing frontend... 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: backend is closed 
> Dec 29 17:45:19 n4 HVM18[18302]:    XENVBD: target 0: created 

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On 01/15/2012 03:30 AM, George Shuklin wrote:
> OK, sorry, miss that.
>
> But idea to split packages to separate SM's is still actual. If you
> install storage-manager, you expect it will provide same as normal XCP
> (xe sr-create and it works), but this is not completely true: You will
> need to set up some other packages, so using hard dependence for
> something like xcp-storage-manager-nfs and suggest for
> xcp-strorage-manager-nfs in dependence of xcp-storage-manager will be
> better, IMHO.

IMO (and that's the one of many Debian contributors and
developers), you expect users to read the README.Debian
which documents all this. I just added few lines about it in it.

Now, if we have a separate xcp-storage-manager-nfs and
xcp-storage-manager-samba, then these wouldn't be mandatory
(eg: not hard dependencies), so it wouldn't change anything.

Best would be if xe-mount-iso-sr was checking if there is the
needed software installed by default, and was throwing a nice
error message telling what to do (eg: apt-get install) if the
relevant packages are missing.

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On 01/15/2012 03:30 AM, George Shuklin wrote:
> OK, sorry, miss that.
>
> But idea to split packages to separate SM's is still actual. If you
> install storage-manager, you expect it will provide same as normal XCP
> (xe sr-create and it works), but this is not completely true: You will
> need to set up some other packages, so using hard dependence for
> something like xcp-storage-manager-nfs and suggest for
> xcp-strorage-manager-nfs in dependence of xcp-storage-manager will be
> better, IMHO.

IMO (and that's the one of many Debian contributors and
developers), you expect users to read the README.Debian
which documents all this. I just added few lines about it in it.

Now, if we have a separate xcp-storage-manager-nfs and
xcp-storage-manager-samba, then these wouldn't be mandatory
(eg: not hard dependencies), so it wouldn't change anything.

Best would be if xe-mount-iso-sr was checking if there is the
needed software installed by default, and was throwing a nice
error message telling what to do (eg: apt-get install) if the
relevant packages are missing.

Thomas

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Hello.

I use ZFS-based NFS storage for xen.

I am trying to get safe backup throuhg Xen API with following algorithm:
Before create ZFS snapshot I create XEN VM snapshot, export VM metadata 
and do ZFS snapshot.

After this I delete snapshot and its VDI.

But when I try to revert VM, I have strange behavior of VM.revert operation.

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and try to call VM.revert function. Its return VM_REVERT_FAILED message.

*The strangeness of the fact that when I ignore VM_REVERT_FAILED 
exception and try to repeat VM.revert call - it works fine.*
I mean that second call of VM.revert works without error (There is no 
pause between them).

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Hello.

I use ZFS-based NFS storage for xen.

I am trying to get safe backup throuhg Xen API with following algorithm:
Before create ZFS snapshot I create XEN VM snapshot, export VM metadata 
and do ZFS snapshot.

After this I delete snapshot and its VDI.

But when I try to revert VM, I have strange behavior of VM.revert operation.

I rollback my ZFS storage, unregister VM, import VM metadata, rescan SR 
and try to call VM.revert function. Its return VM_REVERT_FAILED message.

*The strangeness of the fact that when I ignore VM_REVERT_FAILED 
exception and try to repeat VM.revert call - it works fine.*
I mean that second call of VM.revert works without error (There is no 
pause between them).

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Hi Deepak,

I'm the Debian Developer who helped with the packaging and who uploaded
XCP into Debian SID. I'm also working with XCP and OpenStack, and last
week, I did some tests with it, using only the packages from SID.

The packages are in good shape, but there's still few things to fix, like
having a python-xenapi package (already committed to the Git, but not
yet uploaded to SID), and have the OpenStack packages depend on it.

Now, let me reply to your questions.

On 12/27/2011 01:12 PM, Deepak Garg wrote:
> a. After adding the repos to /etc/apt/sources.list mentioned in the wiki, I tried apt-get update. I get 
> 	the following error:
>    "W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 79B578FB9273A937".
> 	But the xcp toolstack was installed properly after that.
>   

I see no error here, but a *warning*, which is different.
The issue is that the repository isn't signed. I'm not sure
how to fix that in Launchpad, but for a custom private repo,
that's not so hard to do. Anyway, I believe you should just
ignore this warning.

> b. After setting up xenbr0, I had setup the xensource inventory in /etc/xcp/xensource-inventory as per
> 	the wiki. But there was already a /etc/xcp/inventory file with half of the settings, so I had updated that too. 
> So, please update the wiki if 'xensource-inventory' is not the right filename.
>   

Right, the new file really is /etc/xcp/inventory, and there's
nothing to touch in it. It's correct by default.

> c. The cmd given in wiki "service xapi status" doesn't seem to be working. Instead the correct cmd seems
> to be "service xcp-xapi status" which works as desired. So I have updated the wiki with the new cmd.
>   

Right, the init.d script has been renamed to match the package name.

> d. The actual problem I am facing ( and unresolved ) is with the following cmd in 
>  link:  http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Using_XCP_-_preparing_the_toolstack
>  "xe sr-create type=ext device-config:device=/dev/sda10 name-label=ext"
> I get the error:  "The SR could not be connected because the driver was not recognised.
> driver: ext"
>  (I have /dev/sda10 as a logical partition formatted with ext3)
>   

I'm not sure with the instructions on the wiki, but what I've written
in here works:

http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-xen/xen-api.git;a=blob;f=debian/README.Debian;h=c342ef1829d0190ef764a9f8e259db6a60325d48;hb=57892b47dd730ea6e7a1db9e98a934122ebe0876

This will be packaged in the xcp-xapi package at the next upload.

Last, I would suggest you to try using plain Debian SID rather than
Ubuntu, since that's where the developments are done (Ubuntu just
imports what we do in SID).

Cheers,

Thomas


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Hi Deepak,

I'm the Debian Developer who helped with the packaging and who uploaded
XCP into Debian SID. I'm also working with XCP and OpenStack, and last
week, I did some tests with it, using only the packages from SID.

The packages are in good shape, but there's still few things to fix, like
having a python-xenapi package (already committed to the Git, but not
yet uploaded to SID), and have the OpenStack packages depend on it.

Now, let me reply to your questions.

On 12/27/2011 01:12 PM, Deepak Garg wrote:
> a. After adding the repos to /etc/apt/sources.list mentioned in the wiki, I tried apt-get update. I get 
> 	the following error:
>    "W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 79B578FB9273A937".
> 	But the xcp toolstack was installed properly after that.
>   

I see no error here, but a *warning*, which is different.
The issue is that the repository isn't signed. I'm not sure
how to fix that in Launchpad, but for a custom private repo,
that's not so hard to do. Anyway, I believe you should just
ignore this warning.

> b. After setting up xenbr0, I had setup the xensource inventory in /etc/xcp/xensource-inventory as per
> 	the wiki. But there was already a /etc/xcp/inventory file with half of the settings, so I had updated that too. 
> So, please update the wiki if 'xensource-inventory' is not the right filename.
>   

Right, the new file really is /etc/xcp/inventory, and there's
nothing to touch in it. It's correct by default.

> c. The cmd given in wiki "service xapi status" doesn't seem to be working. Instead the correct cmd seems
> to be "service xcp-xapi status" which works as desired. So I have updated the wiki with the new cmd.
>   

Right, the init.d script has been renamed to match the package name.

> d. The actual problem I am facing ( and unresolved ) is with the following cmd in 
>  link:  http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Using_XCP_-_preparing_the_toolstack
>  "xe sr-create type=ext device-config:device=/dev/sda10 name-label=ext"
> I get the error:  "The SR could not be connected because the driver was not recognised.
> driver: ext"
>  (I have /dev/sda10 as a logical partition formatted with ext3)
>   

I'm not sure with the instructions on the wiki, but what I've written
in here works:

http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-xen/xen-api.git;a=blob;f=debian/README.Debian;h=c342ef1829d0190ef764a9f8e259db6a60325d48;hb=57892b47dd730ea6e7a1db9e98a934122ebe0876

This will be packaged in the xcp-xapi package at the next upload.

Last, I would suggest you to try using plain Debian SID rather than
Ubuntu, since that's where the developments are done (Ubuntu just
imports what we do in SID).

Cheers,

Thomas


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We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal to =
become the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.

We've had the opportunity to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP =
developers and now it's time to announce the project to a larger public.
XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java backend =
delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.
At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO repositories and =
iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works on XenServer =
5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell.=20

Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend lead =
and Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of course, we =
now would like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or contributor!=20=

You can find more information at xen-master.org, to install and =
configure XenMaster. If you'd like to help and have experience in =
developing Java and/or Javascript, load the source in your favorite IDE =
and have at it!

If you have any questions at all, we'll be happy to answer them here or =
through GitHub.

We hope to welcome you in using XenMaster!
Jorgen Evens
Wannes De Smet
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developer. Of course, we now would like to welcome you in becoming a =
tester and/or contributor! </span><br><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, =
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baseline; white-space: pre-wrap; ">install and configure =
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background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; =
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background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; =
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We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal to =
become the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.

We've had the opportunity to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP =
developers and now it's time to announce the project to a larger public.
XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java backend =
delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.
At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO repositories and =
iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works on XenServer =
5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell.=20

Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend lead =
and Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of course, we =
now would like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or contributor!=20=

You can find more information at xen-master.org, to install and =
configure XenMaster. If you'd like to help and have experience in =
developing Java and/or Javascript, load the source in your favorite IDE =
and have at it!

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We hope to welcome you in using XenMaster!
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background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; =
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baseline; white-space: pre-wrap; ">install and configure =
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background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; =
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background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; =
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This looks nice although I am not really sure I understand the angle you're
coming from here...

You're announcing a GUI, but the site is just a wiki with text and a bit of
bashing vmware and windows but no screenshots of nice GUI designs or
explanations of how yours will be better...
In my view, XAPI already has a decent Windows GUI in the form of XenCenter,
the bit we're missing is a really good cross-platform and fully open gui
base. Java isn't a great choice for that due to the anti-java feelings
around the community and GPL is also not a great choice given its viral
nature.

You seem to have a misunderstanding of the GPL in your wiki too when you
say "the GPLv3 requires that everyone who improves our project, makes his
work available publicly".  It doesn't - not if people just use it in house.
People can make their own improvements all they like without releasing it.
What the GPL actually means for anyone who wants to make a rebranded
release of it for their clients or customers though, is that they will have
to maintain a full archive of all the source going back all the versions,
including all their little service-specific tweaks and then make it readily
available to whoever wants it on request.
In my view that just adds a lot of extra work and security considerations
to any project that wants to use it. It also means no-one can add anything
clever with it that gives them a competitive edge without releasing the
source, so in that case they'll probably choose to build a GUI from scratch
rather than contribute anything.

If we want a free, uncustomised proprietary windows GUI like VSphere Client
then XenCenter does a great job. If we want a fully open, cross platform
GUI that we can rebrand and customised for our own service offerings then
we should be looking at something AJAX based with a BSD/MIT style license.

Just my 10 cents ;)

On 11 February 2012 19:14, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com> wrote:

> *We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal to
> become the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.
>
> We've had the opportunity to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP
> developers and now it's time to announce the project to a larger public.
> XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java backend
> delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.
> At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO repositories and
> iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works on XenServer
> 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell.
>
> Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend lead
> and Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of course, we now
> would like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or contributor!
> You can find more information at xen-master.org, to install and configure
> XenMaster <http://wiki.xen-master.org/wiki/Installing>. If you'd like to
> help and have experience in developing Java and/or Javascript, load the
> source in your favorite IDE and have at it!
>
> If you have any questions at all, we'll be happy to answer them here or
> through GitHub.
>
> We hope to welcome you in using XenMaster!
> Jorgen Evens
> Wannes De Smet
> XenMaster *
>
> _______________________________________________
> xen-api mailing list
> xen-api@lists.xensource.com
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This looks nice although I am not really sure I understand the angle you&#3=
9;re coming from here...<div><br></div><div>You&#39;re announcing a GUI, bu=
t the site is just a wiki with text and a bit of bashing vmware and windows=
 but no screenshots of nice GUI designs or explanations of how yours will b=
e better...=A0</div>
<div>In my view, XAPI already has a decent Windows GUI in the form of XenCe=
nter, the bit we&#39;re missing is a really good cross-platform and fully o=
pen gui base. Java isn&#39;t a great choice for that due to the anti-java f=
eelings around the community and GPL is also not a great choice given its v=
iral nature.</div>
<div><br></div><div>You seem to have a misunderstanding of the GPL in your =
wiki too when you say &quot;<span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255=
);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px">the GPLv3 require=
s that everyone who improves our project, makes his work available publicly=
&quot;. =A0It doesn&#39;t - not if people just use it in house. People can =
make their own improvements all they like without releasing it.</span></div=
>
<div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-seri=
f;font-size:13px;line-height:19px">What the GPL actually means for anyone w=
ho wants to make a rebranded release of it for their clients or customers t=
hough, is that they will have to maintain a full archive of all the source =
going back all the versions, including all their little service-specific tw=
eaks and then make it readily available to whoever wants it on request.=A0<=
/span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-seri=
f;font-size:13px;line-height:19px">In my view that just adds a lot of extra=
 work and security considerations to any project that wants to use it. It a=
lso means no-one can add anything clever with it that gives them a competit=
ive edge without releasing the source, so in that case they&#39;ll probably=
 choose to build a GUI from scratch rather than contribute anything.</span>=
</div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-seri=
f;font-size:13px;line-height:19px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"bac=
kground-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"li=
ne-height:19px">If we want a free, uncustomised=A0proprietary windows GUI l=
ike VSphere Client then XenCenter does a great job. If we want a fully open=
, cross platform GUI that we can rebrand and customised for our own service=
 offerings then we should be looking at something AJAX based with a BSD/MIT=
 style license.=A0</span></font></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face=3D"sans-s=
erif"><span style=3D"line-height:19px"><br></span></font></span></div><div>=
<span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face=3D"sans-serif"=
><span style=3D"line-height:19px">Just my 10 cents ;)</span></font></span><=
/div>
<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 February 2012 19:14, Wannes De Sm=
et <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wannes321@gmail.com">wannes321@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><b style=3D"line-height:normal;text-ind=
ent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;t=
ext-transform:none;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;word-spacing:0px"><=
font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"font-size:15px"><span style=3D"vertical-align:=
baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;backgro=
und-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">We&#39;re ha=
ppy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal</span><span style=
=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;backgroun=
d-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal"> </span><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whit=
e-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-wei=
ght:normal">to become the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.</span><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">We&#39;ve had the opportunit=
y to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP developers and now it&#39;s=
 time to announce the project to a larger public.</span><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Jav=
a backend delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.</span><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO re=
positories and iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works o=
n XenServer 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell. </span><b=
r>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">Development thus far has bee=
n carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend lead and Wannes De Smet, project le=
ad and backend developer. Of course, we now would like to welcome you in be=
coming a tester and/or contributor! </span><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">You can find more information at </span><span style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-sty=
le:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:base=
line;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href=3D"http://xen-master.org" target=3D"_bla=
nk">xen-master.org</a></span><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">, to </span><a href=3D"http:=
//wiki.xen-master.org/wiki/Installing" style=3D"white-space:normal" target=
=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparen=
t;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:=
underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">install and configu=
re XenMaster</span></a><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:=
normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;=
text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">. If you&#39;d like to help and ha=
ve experience in developing Java and/or Javascript, load the source in your=
 favorite IDE and have at it!</span><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">If you have any questions at=
 all, we&#39;ll be happy to answer them here or through GitHub.</span><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">We hope to welcome you in us=
ing XenMaster!</span><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">Jorgen Evens</span><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"=
#888888"><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">Wannes De Smet</span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:ba=
seline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;backgroun=
d-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:bold">XenMaster </span=
></font></span></font></b></div>
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This looks nice although I am not really sure I understand the angle you're
coming from here...

You're announcing a GUI, but the site is just a wiki with text and a bit of
bashing vmware and windows but no screenshots of nice GUI designs or
explanations of how yours will be better...
In my view, XAPI already has a decent Windows GUI in the form of XenCenter,
the bit we're missing is a really good cross-platform and fully open gui
base. Java isn't a great choice for that due to the anti-java feelings
around the community and GPL is also not a great choice given its viral
nature.

You seem to have a misunderstanding of the GPL in your wiki too when you
say "the GPLv3 requires that everyone who improves our project, makes his
work available publicly".  It doesn't - not if people just use it in house.
People can make their own improvements all they like without releasing it.
What the GPL actually means for anyone who wants to make a rebranded
release of it for their clients or customers though, is that they will have
to maintain a full archive of all the source going back all the versions,
including all their little service-specific tweaks and then make it readily
available to whoever wants it on request.
In my view that just adds a lot of extra work and security considerations
to any project that wants to use it. It also means no-one can add anything
clever with it that gives them a competitive edge without releasing the
source, so in that case they'll probably choose to build a GUI from scratch
rather than contribute anything.

If we want a free, uncustomised proprietary windows GUI like VSphere Client
then XenCenter does a great job. If we want a fully open, cross platform
GUI that we can rebrand and customised for our own service offerings then
we should be looking at something AJAX based with a BSD/MIT style license.

Just my 10 cents ;)

On 11 February 2012 19:14, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com> wrote:

> *We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal to
> become the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.
>
> We've had the opportunity to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP
> developers and now it's time to announce the project to a larger public.
> XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java backend
> delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.
> At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO repositories and
> iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works on XenServer
> 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell.
>
> Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend lead
> and Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of course, we now
> would like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or contributor!
> You can find more information at xen-master.org, to install and configure
> XenMaster <http://wiki.xen-master.org/wiki/Installing>. If you'd like to
> help and have experience in developing Java and/or Javascript, load the
> source in your favorite IDE and have at it!
>
> If you have any questions at all, we'll be happy to answer them here or
> through GitHub.
>
> We hope to welcome you in using XenMaster!
> Jorgen Evens
> Wannes De Smet
> XenMaster *
>
> _______________________________________________
> xen-api mailing list
> xen-api@lists.xensource.com
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This looks nice although I am not really sure I understand the angle you&#3=
9;re coming from here...<div><br></div><div>You&#39;re announcing a GUI, bu=
t the site is just a wiki with text and a bit of bashing vmware and windows=
 but no screenshots of nice GUI designs or explanations of how yours will b=
e better...=A0</div>
<div>In my view, XAPI already has a decent Windows GUI in the form of XenCe=
nter, the bit we&#39;re missing is a really good cross-platform and fully o=
pen gui base. Java isn&#39;t a great choice for that due to the anti-java f=
eelings around the community and GPL is also not a great choice given its v=
iral nature.</div>
<div><br></div><div>You seem to have a misunderstanding of the GPL in your =
wiki too when you say &quot;<span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255=
);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px">the GPLv3 require=
s that everyone who improves our project, makes his work available publicly=
&quot;. =A0It doesn&#39;t - not if people just use it in house. People can =
make their own improvements all they like without releasing it.</span></div=
>
<div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-seri=
f;font-size:13px;line-height:19px">What the GPL actually means for anyone w=
ho wants to make a rebranded release of it for their clients or customers t=
hough, is that they will have to maintain a full archive of all the source =
going back all the versions, including all their little service-specific tw=
eaks and then make it readily available to whoever wants it on request.=A0<=
/span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-seri=
f;font-size:13px;line-height:19px">In my view that just adds a lot of extra=
 work and security considerations to any project that wants to use it. It a=
lso means no-one can add anything clever with it that gives them a competit=
ive edge without releasing the source, so in that case they&#39;ll probably=
 choose to build a GUI from scratch rather than contribute anything.</span>=
</div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-seri=
f;font-size:13px;line-height:19px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"bac=
kground-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"li=
ne-height:19px">If we want a free, uncustomised=A0proprietary windows GUI l=
ike VSphere Client then XenCenter does a great job. If we want a fully open=
, cross platform GUI that we can rebrand and customised for our own service=
 offerings then we should be looking at something AJAX based with a BSD/MIT=
 style license.=A0</span></font></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face=3D"sans-s=
erif"><span style=3D"line-height:19px"><br></span></font></span></div><div>=
<span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face=3D"sans-serif"=
><span style=3D"line-height:19px">Just my 10 cents ;)</span></font></span><=
/div>
<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 February 2012 19:14, Wannes De Sm=
et <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wannes321@gmail.com">wannes321@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><b style=3D"line-height:normal;text-ind=
ent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;t=
ext-transform:none;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;word-spacing:0px"><=
font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"font-size:15px"><span style=3D"vertical-align:=
baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;backgro=
und-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">We&#39;re ha=
ppy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal</span><span style=
=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;backgroun=
d-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal"> </span><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whit=
e-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-wei=
ght:normal">to become the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.</span><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">We&#39;ve had the opportunit=
y to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP developers and now it&#39;s=
 time to announce the project to a larger public.</span><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Jav=
a backend delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.</span><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO re=
positories and iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works o=
n XenServer 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell. </span><b=
r>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">Development thus far has bee=
n carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend lead and Wannes De Smet, project le=
ad and backend developer. Of course, we now would like to welcome you in be=
coming a tester and/or contributor! </span><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">You can find more information at </span><span style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-sty=
le:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:base=
line;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href=3D"http://xen-master.org" target=3D"_bla=
nk">xen-master.org</a></span><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">, to </span><a href=3D"http:=
//wiki.xen-master.org/wiki/Installing" style=3D"white-space:normal" target=
=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparen=
t;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:=
underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">install and configu=
re XenMaster</span></a><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:=
normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;=
text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">. If you&#39;d like to help and ha=
ve experience in developing Java and/or Javascript, load the source in your=
 favorite IDE and have at it!</span><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">If you have any questions at=
 all, we&#39;ll be happy to answer them here or through GitHub.</span><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">We hope to welcome you in us=
ing XenMaster!</span><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">Jorgen Evens</span><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"=
#888888"><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">Wannes De Smet</span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:ba=
seline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;backgroun=
d-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:bold">XenMaster </span=
></font></span></font></b></div>
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On 12 Feb 2012, at 13:36, msgbox450@gmail.com wrote:

> This looks nice although I am not really sure I understand the angle =
you're coming from here...
>=20
> You're announcing a GUI, but the site is just a wiki with text and a =
bit of bashing vmware and windows but no screenshots of nice GUI designs =
or explanations of how yours will be better=85=20

I should've noted that this was merely an announcement to let everyone =
know we're alive and to give it a shot, we're not even close to a 1.0 =
release. However your point is valid and we've added it on our TODO =
list.

> In my view, XAPI already has a decent Windows GUI in the form of =
XenCenter, the bit we're missing is a really good cross-platform and =
fully open gui base. Java isn't a great choice for that due to the =
anti-java feelings around the community and GPL is also not a great =
choice given its viral nature.
>=20
> You seem to have a misunderstanding of the GPL in your wiki too when =
you say "the GPLv3 requires that everyone who improves our project, =
makes his work available publicly".  It doesn't - not if people just use =
it in house. People can make their own improvements all they like =
without releasing it.
> What the GPL actually means for anyone who wants to make a rebranded =
release of it for their clients or customers though, is that they will =
have to maintain a full archive of all the source going back all the =
versions, including all their little service-specific tweaks and then =
make it readily available to whoever wants it on request.=20

Thanks for pointing that out.

> In my view that just adds a lot of extra work and security =
considerations to any project that wants to use it. It also means no-one =
can add anything clever with it that gives them a competitive edge =
without releasing the source, so in that case they'll probably choose to =
build a GUI from scratch rather than contribute anything.

Here's the thing: we don't want people to not release the source. This =
might make sense from a money perspective, but we're true believers in =
the open source way. You can be competitive as a service provider on =
many other levels; after all, we're just one piece of the machine. Our =
main ambition is to make this a single implementation that is the best =
anyone can get, instead of some scattered implementations only to give a =
competitive edge.

> If we want a free, uncustomised proprietary windows GUI like VSphere =
Client then XenCenter does a great job. If we want a fully open, cross =
platform GUI that we can rebrand and customised for our own service =
offerings then we should be looking at something AJAX based with a =
BSD/MIT style license.=20
>=20
The rebranding part sounds rather odd to me: you could stick another =
logo on top, sure, but we want to know about people's customizations. At =
this moment we're happy we can boot an HVM domain but in the long term =
we'd like to see this grow to being the best (FOSS) management tool for =
XCP.=20
To achieve that goal we need every contribution we can get (especially =
from those running this in production). This way the GPL makes a bit =
more sense, as you said people need to maintain their modifications on =
file, so they might just as well be good open source citizens and =
contribute them.

> Just my 10 cents ;)

Appreciated,
W

PS: I didn't CC xen-users, I don't want to crosspost too much.
>=20
> On 11 February 2012 19:14, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com> wrote:
> We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal to =
become the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.
>=20
> We've had the opportunity to present our project to some of the =
Xen/XCP developers and now it's time to announce the project to a larger =
public.
> XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java backend =
delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.
> At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO repositories =
and iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works on =
XenServer 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell.=20
>=20
> Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend =
lead and Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of course, =
we now would like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or =
contributor!=20
> You can find more information at xen-master.org, to install and =
configure XenMaster. If you'd like to help and have experience in =
developing Java and/or Javascript, load the source in your favorite IDE =
and have at it!
>=20
> If you have any questions at all, we'll be happy to answer them here =
or through GitHub.
>=20
> We hope to welcome you in using XenMaster!
> Jorgen Evens
> Wannes De Smet
> XenMaster=20
>=20
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
"><div><div>On 12 Feb 2012, at 13:36, <a =
href=3D"mailto:msgbox450@gmail.com">msgbox450@gmail.com</a> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">This looks nice although I am not really sure I understand =
the angle you're coming from here...<div><br></div><div>You're =
announcing a GUI, but the site is just a wiki with text and a bit of =
bashing vmware and windows but no screenshots of nice GUI designs or =
explanations of how yours will be =
better=85&nbsp;</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I should've noted =
that this was merely an announcement to let everyone know we're alive =
and to give it a shot, we're not even close to a 1.0 release. However =
your point is valid and we've added it on our TODO =
list.</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>In my view, XAPI already has a decent Windows GUI in the form of =
XenCenter, the bit we're missing is a really good cross-platform and =
fully open gui base. Java isn't a great choice for that due to the =
anti-java feelings around the community and GPL is also not a great =
choice given its viral nature.</div></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">
<div><br></div><div>You seem to have a misunderstanding of the GPL in =
your wiki too when you say "<span =
style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-siz=
e:13px;line-height:19px">the GPLv3 requires that everyone who improves =
our project, makes his work available publicly". &nbsp;It doesn't - not =
if people just use it in house. People can make their own improvements =
all they like without releasing it.</span></div></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">
<div><span =
style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-siz=
e:13px;line-height:19px">What the GPL actually means for anyone who =
wants to make a rebranded release of it for their clients or customers =
though, is that they will have to maintain a full archive of all the =
source going back all the versions, including all their little =
service-specific tweaks and then make it readily available to whoever =
wants it on =
request.&nbsp;</span></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Thanks for =
pointing that out.</div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><span =
style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-siz=
e:13px;line-height:19px">In my view that just adds a lot of extra work =
and security considerations to any project that wants to use it. It also =
means no-one can add anything clever with it that gives them a =
competitive edge without releasing the source, so in that case they'll =
probably choose to build a GUI from scratch rather than contribute =
anything.</span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Here's the thing: =
we don't want people to not release the source. This might make sense =
from a money perspective, but we're true believers in the open source =
way. You can be competitive as a service provider on many other levels; =
after all, we're just one piece of the machine. Our main ambition is to =
make this a single implementation that is the best anyone can get, =
instead of some scattered implementations only to give a competitive =
edge.</div><div><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><span =
style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font =
face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"line-height:19px">If we want a free, =
uncustomised&nbsp;proprietary windows GUI like VSphere Client then =
XenCenter does a great job. If we want a fully open, cross platform GUI =
that we can rebrand and customised for our own service offerings then we =
should be looking at something AJAX based with a BSD/MIT style =
license.&nbsp;</span></font></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font =
face=3D"sans-serif"><span =
style=3D"line-height:19px"><br></span></font></span></div></blockquote><di=
v>The rebranding part sounds rather odd to me: you could stick another =
logo on top, sure, but we want to know about people's customizations. At =
this moment we're happy we can boot an HVM domain but in the long term =
we'd like to see this grow to being the best (FOSS) management tool for =
XCP.&nbsp;</div><div>To achieve that goal we need every contribution we =
can get (especially from those running this in production). This way the =
GPL makes a bit more sense, as you said people need to maintain their =
modifications on file, so they might just as well be good open source =
citizens and contribute them.</div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font=
 face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"line-height:19px">Just my 10 cents =
;)</span></font></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Appreciated,=
</div><div>W</div><div><br></div>PS: I didn't CC xen-users, I don't want =
to crosspost too much.<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 February 2012 19:14, Wannes De =
Smet <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:wannes321@gmail.com">wannes321@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><b =
style=3D"line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-ali=
gn:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;font-style:normal;=
font-weight:normal;word-spacing:0px"><font face=3D"Arial" =
style=3D"font-size:15px"><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious =
goal</span><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;bac=
kground-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal"> =
</span><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">to become the de facto frontend for Xen with =
XCP.</span><br>
<span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;bac=
kground-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal"></span><br><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">We've had the opportunity to present our project to some =
of the Xen/XCP developers and now it's time to announce the project to a =
larger public.</span><br>
<span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java =
backend delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.</span><br>
<span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO =
repositories and iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only =
works on XenServer 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell. =
</span><br>
<span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;bac=
kground-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal"></span><br><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, =
frontend lead and Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of =
course, we now would like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or =
contributor! </span><br>
<span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">You can find more information at </span><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;font-weight:nor=
mal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertic=
al-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href=3D"http://xen-master.org/"=
 target=3D"_blank">xen-master.org</a></span><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">, to </span><a =
href=3D"http://wiki.xen-master.org/wiki/Installing" =
style=3D"white-space:normal" target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;font-weight:nor=
mal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertic=
al-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">install and configure =
XenMaster</span></a><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">. If you'd like to help and have experience in developing =
Java and/or Javascript, load the source in your favorite IDE and have at =
it!</span><br>
<span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;bac=
kground-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal"></span><br><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">If you have any questions at all, we'll be happy to answer =
them here or through GitHub.</span><br>
<span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;bac=
kground-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal"></span><br><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">We hope to welcome you in using XenMaster!</span><br>
<span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">Jorgen Evens</span><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font =
color=3D"#888888"><br>
<span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">Wannes De Smet</span><br><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:bold">XenMaster </span></font></span></font></b></div>
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On 12 Feb 2012, at 13:36, msgbox450@gmail.com wrote:

> This looks nice although I am not really sure I understand the angle =
you're coming from here...
>=20
> You're announcing a GUI, but the site is just a wiki with text and a =
bit of bashing vmware and windows but no screenshots of nice GUI designs =
or explanations of how yours will be better=85=20

I should've noted that this was merely an announcement to let everyone =
know we're alive and to give it a shot, we're not even close to a 1.0 =
release. However your point is valid and we've added it on our TODO =
list.

> In my view, XAPI already has a decent Windows GUI in the form of =
XenCenter, the bit we're missing is a really good cross-platform and =
fully open gui base. Java isn't a great choice for that due to the =
anti-java feelings around the community and GPL is also not a great =
choice given its viral nature.
>=20
> You seem to have a misunderstanding of the GPL in your wiki too when =
you say "the GPLv3 requires that everyone who improves our project, =
makes his work available publicly".  It doesn't - not if people just use =
it in house. People can make their own improvements all they like =
without releasing it.
> What the GPL actually means for anyone who wants to make a rebranded =
release of it for their clients or customers though, is that they will =
have to maintain a full archive of all the source going back all the =
versions, including all their little service-specific tweaks and then =
make it readily available to whoever wants it on request.=20

Thanks for pointing that out.

> In my view that just adds a lot of extra work and security =
considerations to any project that wants to use it. It also means no-one =
can add anything clever with it that gives them a competitive edge =
without releasing the source, so in that case they'll probably choose to =
build a GUI from scratch rather than contribute anything.

Here's the thing: we don't want people to not release the source. This =
might make sense from a money perspective, but we're true believers in =
the open source way. You can be competitive as a service provider on =
many other levels; after all, we're just one piece of the machine. Our =
main ambition is to make this a single implementation that is the best =
anyone can get, instead of some scattered implementations only to give a =
competitive edge.

> If we want a free, uncustomised proprietary windows GUI like VSphere =
Client then XenCenter does a great job. If we want a fully open, cross =
platform GUI that we can rebrand and customised for our own service =
offerings then we should be looking at something AJAX based with a =
BSD/MIT style license.=20
>=20
The rebranding part sounds rather odd to me: you could stick another =
logo on top, sure, but we want to know about people's customizations. At =
this moment we're happy we can boot an HVM domain but in the long term =
we'd like to see this grow to being the best (FOSS) management tool for =
XCP.=20
To achieve that goal we need every contribution we can get (especially =
from those running this in production). This way the GPL makes a bit =
more sense, as you said people need to maintain their modifications on =
file, so they might just as well be good open source citizens and =
contribute them.

> Just my 10 cents ;)

Appreciated,
W

PS: I didn't CC xen-users, I don't want to crosspost too much.
>=20
> On 11 February 2012 19:14, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com> wrote:
> We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal to =
become the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.
>=20
> We've had the opportunity to present our project to some of the =
Xen/XCP developers and now it's time to announce the project to a larger =
public.
> XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java backend =
delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.
> At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO repositories =
and iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works on =
XenServer 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell.=20
>=20
> Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend =
lead and Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of course, =
we now would like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or =
contributor!=20
> You can find more information at xen-master.org, to install and =
configure XenMaster. If you'd like to help and have experience in =
developing Java and/or Javascript, load the source in your favorite IDE =
and have at it!
>=20
> If you have any questions at all, we'll be happy to answer them here =
or through GitHub.
>=20
> We hope to welcome you in using XenMaster!
> Jorgen Evens
> Wannes De Smet
> XenMaster=20
>=20
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
"><div><div>On 12 Feb 2012, at 13:36, <a =
href=3D"mailto:msgbox450@gmail.com">msgbox450@gmail.com</a> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">This looks nice although I am not really sure I understand =
the angle you're coming from here...<div><br></div><div>You're =
announcing a GUI, but the site is just a wiki with text and a bit of =
bashing vmware and windows but no screenshots of nice GUI designs or =
explanations of how yours will be =
better=85&nbsp;</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I should've noted =
that this was merely an announcement to let everyone know we're alive =
and to give it a shot, we're not even close to a 1.0 release. However =
your point is valid and we've added it on our TODO =
list.</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>In my view, XAPI already has a decent Windows GUI in the form of =
XenCenter, the bit we're missing is a really good cross-platform and =
fully open gui base. Java isn't a great choice for that due to the =
anti-java feelings around the community and GPL is also not a great =
choice given its viral nature.</div></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">
<div><br></div><div>You seem to have a misunderstanding of the GPL in =
your wiki too when you say "<span =
style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-siz=
e:13px;line-height:19px">the GPLv3 requires that everyone who improves =
our project, makes his work available publicly". &nbsp;It doesn't - not =
if people just use it in house. People can make their own improvements =
all they like without releasing it.</span></div></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">
<div><span =
style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-siz=
e:13px;line-height:19px">What the GPL actually means for anyone who =
wants to make a rebranded release of it for their clients or customers =
though, is that they will have to maintain a full archive of all the =
source going back all the versions, including all their little =
service-specific tweaks and then make it readily available to whoever =
wants it on =
request.&nbsp;</span></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Thanks for =
pointing that out.</div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><span =
style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-siz=
e:13px;line-height:19px">In my view that just adds a lot of extra work =
and security considerations to any project that wants to use it. It also =
means no-one can add anything clever with it that gives them a =
competitive edge without releasing the source, so in that case they'll =
probably choose to build a GUI from scratch rather than contribute =
anything.</span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Here's the thing: =
we don't want people to not release the source. This might make sense =
from a money perspective, but we're true believers in the open source =
way. You can be competitive as a service provider on many other levels; =
after all, we're just one piece of the machine. Our main ambition is to =
make this a single implementation that is the best anyone can get, =
instead of some scattered implementations only to give a competitive =
edge.</div><div><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><span =
style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font =
face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"line-height:19px">If we want a free, =
uncustomised&nbsp;proprietary windows GUI like VSphere Client then =
XenCenter does a great job. If we want a fully open, cross platform GUI =
that we can rebrand and customised for our own service offerings then we =
should be looking at something AJAX based with a BSD/MIT style =
license.&nbsp;</span></font></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font =
face=3D"sans-serif"><span =
style=3D"line-height:19px"><br></span></font></span></div></blockquote><di=
v>The rebranding part sounds rather odd to me: you could stick another =
logo on top, sure, but we want to know about people's customizations. At =
this moment we're happy we can boot an HVM domain but in the long term =
we'd like to see this grow to being the best (FOSS) management tool for =
XCP.&nbsp;</div><div>To achieve that goal we need every contribution we =
can get (especially from those running this in production). This way the =
GPL makes a bit more sense, as you said people need to maintain their =
modifications on file, so they might just as well be good open source =
citizens and contribute them.</div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font=
 face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"line-height:19px">Just my 10 cents =
;)</span></font></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Appreciated,=
</div><div>W</div><div><br></div>PS: I didn't CC xen-users, I don't want =
to crosspost too much.<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 February 2012 19:14, Wannes De =
Smet <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:wannes321@gmail.com">wannes321@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><b =
style=3D"line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-ali=
gn:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;font-style:normal;=
font-weight:normal;word-spacing:0px"><font face=3D"Arial" =
style=3D"font-size:15px"><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious =
goal</span><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;bac=
kground-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal"> =
</span><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">to become the de facto frontend for Xen with =
XCP.</span><br>
<span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;bac=
kground-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal"></span><br><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">We've had the opportunity to present our project to some =
of the Xen/XCP developers and now it's time to announce the project to a =
larger public.</span><br>
<span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java =
backend delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.</span><br>
<span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO =
repositories and iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only =
works on XenServer 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell. =
</span><br>
<span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;bac=
kground-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal"></span><br><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whi=
te-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-w=
eight:normal">Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, =
frontend lead and Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of =
course, we now would like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or =
contributor! </span><br>
<span =
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On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12 Feb 2012, at 13:36, msgbox450@gmail.com wrote:
>
> This looks nice although I am not really sure I understand the angle you'=
re
> coming from here...
>
> You're announcing a GUI, but the site is just a wiki with text and a bit =
of
> bashing vmware and windows but no screenshots of nice GUI designs or
> explanations of how yours will be better=85


I would concur here, at least post some screen shots and list the
current capabilities so that
we might know if its even worth the trouble of tackling an
installation. especially since it is
built on java, which i also agree with others, why java..... but ill
leave that to the developers
at a minimum you should post some screenies and a table of what works
and what doesnt.
I would be inclined to do some testing it it were somewhat function,
in the meantime, ill still
to cloudstack.... lately its become quite solid and capable..... and
they do a great job showing
whats functional, displaying the ui components in screeshots, and
great support in IRC.


>
>
> I should've noted that this was merely an announcement to let everyone kn=
ow
> we're alive and to give it a shot, we're not even close to a 1.0 release.
> However your point is valid and we've added it on our TODO list.
>
> In my view, XAPI already has a decent Windows GUI in the form of XenCente=
r,
> the bit we're missing is a really good cross-platform and fully open gui
> base. Java isn't a great choice for that due to the anti-java feelings
> around the community and GPL is also not a great choice given its viral
> nature.
>

as for the License well.... BSD all the way for me....

>
> You seem to have a misunderstanding of the GPL in your wiki too when you =
say
> "the GPLv3 requires that everyone who improves our project, makes his work
> available publicly". =A0It doesn't - not if people just use it in house.
> People can make their own improvements all they like without releasing it.
>
> What the GPL actually means for anyone who wants to make a rebranded rele=
ase
> of it for their clients or customers though, is that they will have to
> maintain a full archive of all the source going back all the versions,
> including all their little service-specific tweaks and then make it readi=
ly
> available to whoever wants it on request.
>
>
> Thanks for pointing that out.
>
> In my view that just adds a lot of extra work and security considerations=
 to
> any project that wants to use it. It also means no-one can add anything
> clever with it that gives them a competitive edge without releasing the
> source, so in that case they'll probably choose to build a GUI from scrat=
ch
> rather than contribute anything.
>
>
> Here's the thing: we don't want people to not release the source. This mi=
ght
> make sense from a money perspective, but we're true believers in the open
> source way. You can be competitive as a service provider on many other
> levels; after all, we're just one piece of the machine. Our main ambition=
 is
> to make this a single implementation that is the best anyone can get,
> instead of some scattered implementations only to give a competitive edge.
>
> If we want a free, uncustomised=A0proprietary windows GUI like VSphere Cl=
ient
> then XenCenter does a great job. If we want a fully open, cross platform =
GUI
> that we can rebrand and customised for our own service offerings then we
> should be looking at something AJAX based with a BSD/MIT style license.
>
> The rebranding part sounds rather odd to me: you could stick another logo=
 on
> top, sure, but we want to know about people's customizations. At this mom=
ent
> we're happy we can boot an HVM domain but in the long term we'd like to s=
ee
> this grow to being the best (FOSS) management tool for XCP.
> To achieve that goal we need every contribution we can get (especially fr=
om
> those running this in production). This way the GPL makes a bit more sens=
e,
> as you said people need to maintain their modifications on file, so they
> might just as well be good open source citizens and contribute them.
>
> Just my 10 cents ;)
>
>
> Appreciated,
> W
>
> PS: I didn't CC xen-users, I don't want to crosspost too much.
>
>
> On 11 February 2012 19:14, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal to become
>> the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.
>>
>> We've had the opportunity to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP
>> developers and now it's time to announce the project to a larger public.
>> XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java backend
>> delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.
>> At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO repositories and
>> iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works on XenServer
>> 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell.
>>
>> Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend lead
>> and Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of course, we now
>> would like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or contributor!
>> You can find more information at xen-master.org, to install and configure
>> XenMaster. If you'd like to help and have experience in developing Java
>> and/or Javascript, load the source in your favorite IDE and have at it!
>>
>> If you have any questions at all, we'll be happy to answer them here or
>> through GitHub.
>>
>> We hope to welcome you in using XenMaster!
>> Jorgen Evens
>> Wannes De Smet
>> XenMaster
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On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12 Feb 2012, at 13:36, msgbox450@gmail.com wrote:
>
> This looks nice although I am not really sure I understand the angle you'=
re
> coming from here...
>
> You're announcing a GUI, but the site is just a wiki with text and a bit =
of
> bashing vmware and windows but no screenshots of nice GUI designs or
> explanations of how yours will be better=85


I would concur here, at least post some screen shots and list the
current capabilities so that
we might know if its even worth the trouble of tackling an
installation. especially since it is
built on java, which i also agree with others, why java..... but ill
leave that to the developers
at a minimum you should post some screenies and a table of what works
and what doesnt.
I would be inclined to do some testing it it were somewhat function,
in the meantime, ill still
to cloudstack.... lately its become quite solid and capable..... and
they do a great job showing
whats functional, displaying the ui components in screeshots, and
great support in IRC.


>
>
> I should've noted that this was merely an announcement to let everyone kn=
ow
> we're alive and to give it a shot, we're not even close to a 1.0 release.
> However your point is valid and we've added it on our TODO list.
>
> In my view, XAPI already has a decent Windows GUI in the form of XenCente=
r,
> the bit we're missing is a really good cross-platform and fully open gui
> base. Java isn't a great choice for that due to the anti-java feelings
> around the community and GPL is also not a great choice given its viral
> nature.
>

as for the License well.... BSD all the way for me....

>
> You seem to have a misunderstanding of the GPL in your wiki too when you =
say
> "the GPLv3 requires that everyone who improves our project, makes his work
> available publicly". =A0It doesn't - not if people just use it in house.
> People can make their own improvements all they like without releasing it.
>
> What the GPL actually means for anyone who wants to make a rebranded rele=
ase
> of it for their clients or customers though, is that they will have to
> maintain a full archive of all the source going back all the versions,
> including all their little service-specific tweaks and then make it readi=
ly
> available to whoever wants it on request.
>
>
> Thanks for pointing that out.
>
> In my view that just adds a lot of extra work and security considerations=
 to
> any project that wants to use it. It also means no-one can add anything
> clever with it that gives them a competitive edge without releasing the
> source, so in that case they'll probably choose to build a GUI from scrat=
ch
> rather than contribute anything.
>
>
> Here's the thing: we don't want people to not release the source. This mi=
ght
> make sense from a money perspective, but we're true believers in the open
> source way. You can be competitive as a service provider on many other
> levels; after all, we're just one piece of the machine. Our main ambition=
 is
> to make this a single implementation that is the best anyone can get,
> instead of some scattered implementations only to give a competitive edge.
>
> If we want a free, uncustomised=A0proprietary windows GUI like VSphere Cl=
ient
> then XenCenter does a great job. If we want a fully open, cross platform =
GUI
> that we can rebrand and customised for our own service offerings then we
> should be looking at something AJAX based with a BSD/MIT style license.
>
> The rebranding part sounds rather odd to me: you could stick another logo=
 on
> top, sure, but we want to know about people's customizations. At this mom=
ent
> we're happy we can boot an HVM domain but in the long term we'd like to s=
ee
> this grow to being the best (FOSS) management tool for XCP.
> To achieve that goal we need every contribution we can get (especially fr=
om
> those running this in production). This way the GPL makes a bit more sens=
e,
> as you said people need to maintain their modifications on file, so they
> might just as well be good open source citizens and contribute them.
>
> Just my 10 cents ;)
>
>
> Appreciated,
> W
>
> PS: I didn't CC xen-users, I don't want to crosspost too much.
>
>
> On 11 February 2012 19:14, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal to become
>> the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.
>>
>> We've had the opportunity to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP
>> developers and now it's time to announce the project to a larger public.
>> XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java backend
>> delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.
>> At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO repositories and
>> iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works on XenServer
>> 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell.
>>
>> Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend lead
>> and Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of course, we now
>> would like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or contributor!
>> You can find more information at xen-master.org, to install and configure
>> XenMaster. If you'd like to help and have experience in developing Java
>> and/or Javascript, load the source in your favorite IDE and have at it!
>>
>> If you have any questions at all, we'll be happy to answer them here or
>> through GitHub.
>>
>> We hope to welcome you in using XenMaster!
>> Jorgen Evens
>> Wannes De Smet
>> XenMaster
>>
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>> xen-api@lists.xensource.com
>> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api
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You are right that free and open is good. But that's exactly why I don't
think GPL is the right choice in this case.
Look at Apache for example... just because the Apache license doesn't
contain the GPL "viral" clause and other restrictions doesn't mean people
don't release their modules for free. The point is, that if they need to
keep certain bits closed for security reasons, or they write some extra
functionality based upon it that they want to try to sell, they are free to
do so. No-one's going to suddenly close the source of the main project and
if anyone does make some commercial closed source addons then good luck to
them, all it means is that they're got paying customers who will now expect
things to work, and if there are any bugs in the core they'll have to fix
them and its in their best interests to submit them to the core project
anyway rather than maintain diffs and having to switch their solution for
someone elses later...
Give people full freedom and they'll often choose to contribute. Prescribe
to them what they can and cannot do with their own work, and they'll often
choose a different base for their projects (such as libvirt in this case).

What XAPI is lacking right now is a really nice, clean, free and open GUI
framework that people can chop and change to their needs, whether they want
a simple web access for starting VMs on their home server or want to
incorporate it into their commercial cloud platform offerings with their
custom metering and billing.
There are loads of commercial cloud platforms and VM management solutions
out there, but there's no real standard, because no-one has made a
non-proprietary, non-GPL, truly open base system that can be moulded to
suit the needs of each geek's particular hardware setup and user
base. That's the niche I think.

If it's going to be just another out-of-the-box vSphere client clone then
there's XenCenter and OpenXenManager already...



On 12 February 2012 13:34, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12 Feb 2012, at 13:36, msgbox450@gmail.com wrote:
>
> This looks nice although I am not really sure I understand the angle
> you're coming from here...
>
> You're announcing a GUI, but the site is just a wiki with text and a bit
> of bashing vmware and windows but no screenshots of nice GUI designs or
> explanations of how yours will be better=85
>
>
> I should've noted that this was merely an announcement to let everyone
> know we're alive and to give it a shot, we're not even close to a 1.0
> release. However your point is valid and we've added it on our TODO list.
>
> In my view, XAPI already has a decent Windows GUI in the form of
> XenCenter, the bit we're missing is a really good cross-platform and full=
y
> open gui base. Java isn't a great choice for that due to the anti-java
> feelings around the community and GPL is also not a great choice given it=
s
> viral nature.
>
>
> You seem to have a misunderstanding of the GPL in your wiki too when you
> say "the GPLv3 requires that everyone who improves our project, makes his
> work available publicly".  It doesn't - not if people just use it in hous=
e.
> People can make their own improvements all they like without releasing it=
.
>
> What the GPL actually means for anyone who wants to make a rebranded
> release of it for their clients or customers though, is that they will ha=
ve
> to maintain a full archive of all the source going back all the versions,
> including all their little service-specific tweaks and then make it readi=
ly
> available to whoever wants it on request.
>
>
> Thanks for pointing that out.
>
> In my view that just adds a lot of extra work and security considerations
> to any project that wants to use it. It also means no-one can add anythin=
g
> clever with it that gives them a competitive edge without releasing the
> source, so in that case they'll probably choose to build a GUI from scrat=
ch
> rather than contribute anything.
>
>
> Here's the thing: we don't want people to not release the source. This
> might make sense from a money perspective, but we're true believers in th=
e
> open source way. You can be competitive as a service provider on many oth=
er
> levels; after all, we're just one piece of the machine. Our main ambition
> is to make this a single implementation that is the best anyone can get,
> instead of some scattered implementations only to give a competitive edge=
.
>
> If we want a free, uncustomised proprietary windows GUI like VSphere
> Client then XenCenter does a great job. If we want a fully open, cross
> platform GUI that we can rebrand and customised for our own service
> offerings then we should be looking at something AJAX based with a BSD/MI=
T
> style license.
>
> The rebranding part sounds rather odd to me: you could stick another logo
> on top, sure, but we want to know about people's customizations. At this
> moment we're happy we can boot an HVM domain but in the long term we'd li=
ke
> to see this grow to being the best (FOSS) management tool for XCP.
> To achieve that goal we need every contribution we can get (especially
> from those running this in production). This way the GPL makes a bit more
> sense, as you said people need to maintain their modifications on file, s=
o
> they might just as well be good open source citizens and contribute them.
>
> Just my 10 cents ;)
>
>
> Appreciated,
> W
>
> PS: I didn't CC xen-users, I don't want to crosspost too much.
>
>
> On 11 February 2012 19:14, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal to
>> become the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.
>>
>> We've had the opportunity to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP
>> developers and now it's time to announce the project to a larger public.
>> XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java backend
>> delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.
>> At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO repositories and
>> iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works on XenServer
>> 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell.
>>
>> Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend lead
>> and Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of course, we no=
w
>> would like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or contributor!
>> You can find more information at xen-master.org, to install and
>> configure XenMaster <http://wiki.xen-master.org/wiki/Installing>. If
>> you'd like to help and have experience in developing Java and/or
>> Javascript, load the source in your favorite IDE and have at it!
>>
>> If you have any questions at all, we'll be happy to answer them here or
>> through GitHub.
>>
>> We hope to welcome you in using XenMaster!
>> Jorgen Evens
>> Wannes De Smet
>> XenMaster *
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> xen-api mailing list
>> xen-api@lists.xensource.com
>> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api
>>
>>
>
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You are right that free and open is good. But that&#39;s exactly why I don&=
#39;t think GPL is the right choice in this case.<div>Look at Apache for ex=
ample... just because the Apache license doesn&#39;t contain the GPL &quot;=
viral&quot; clause and other restrictions doesn&#39;t mean people don&#39;t=
 release their modules for free. The point is, that if they need to keep ce=
rtain bits closed for security reasons, or they write some extra functional=
ity based upon it that they want to try to sell, they are free to do so. No=
-one&#39;s going to suddenly close the source of the main project and if an=
yone does make some commercial closed source addons then good luck to them,=
 all it means is that they&#39;re got paying customers who will now expect =
things to work, and if there are any bugs in the core they&#39;ll have to f=
ix them and its in their best interests to submit them to the core project =
anyway rather than maintain diffs and having to switch their solution for s=
omeone elses later...=A0</div>
<div>Give people full freedom and they&#39;ll often choose to contribute. P=
rescribe to them what they can and cannot do with their own work, and they&=
#39;ll often choose a different base for their projects (such as libvirt in=
 this case).</div>
<div><br></div><div>What XAPI is lacking right now is a really nice, clean,=
 free and open GUI framework that people can chop and change to their needs=
, whether they want a simple web access for starting VMs on their home serv=
er or want to incorporate it into their commercial cloud platform offerings=
 with their custom metering and billing.=A0</div>
<div>There are loads of commercial cloud platforms and VM management soluti=
ons out there, but there&#39;s no real standard, because no-one has made a =
non-proprietary, non-GPL, truly open base system that can be moulded to sui=
t the needs of each geek&#39;s particular hardware setup and user base.=A0T=
hat&#39;s the niche I think.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If it&#39;s going to be just another out-of-the-box vSp=
here client clone then there&#39;s XenCenter and OpenXenManager already...<=
/div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 1=
2 February 2012 13:34, Wannes De Smet <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:wannes321@gmail.com">wannes321@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><di=
v class=3D"im"><div>On 12 Feb 2012, at 13:36, <a href=3D"mailto:msgbox450@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">msgbox450@gmail.com</a> wrote:</div>
<br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"im">This looks nice altho=
ugh I am not really sure I understand the angle you&#39;re coming from here=
...<div><br></div></div><div>You&#39;re announcing a GUI, but the site is j=
ust a wiki with text and a bit of bashing vmware and windows but no screens=
hots of nice GUI designs or explanations of how yours will be better=85=A0<=
/div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I should&#39;ve noted that this was merely=
 an announcement to let everyone know we&#39;re alive and to give it a shot=
, we&#39;re not even close to a 1.0 release. However your point is valid an=
d we&#39;ve added it on our TODO list.</div>
<div class=3D"im"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>In my view, XAPI already has a decent Windows GUI in the form of XenCe=
nter, the bit we&#39;re missing is a really good cross-platform and fully o=
pen gui base. Java isn&#39;t a great choice for that due to the anti-java f=
eelings around the community and GPL is also not a great choice given its v=
iral nature.</div>
</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><br></div><div>You seem to have a misunderstanding of the GPL in your =
wiki too when you say &quot;<span style=3D"line-height:19px;font-size:13px;=
font-family:sans-serif">the GPLv3 requires that everyone who improves our p=
roject, makes his work available publicly&quot;. =A0It doesn&#39;t - not if=
 people just use it in house. People can make their own improvements all th=
ey like without releasing it.</span></div>
</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><span style=3D"line-height:19px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif"=
>What the GPL actually means for anyone who wants to make a rebranded relea=
se of it for their clients or customers though, is that they will have to m=
aintain a full archive of all the source going back all the versions, inclu=
ding all their little service-specific tweaks and then make it readily avai=
lable to whoever wants it on request.=A0</span></div>
</blockquote><div><br></div></div>Thanks for pointing that out.</div><div><=
div class=3D"im"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><span style=3D"line-height:19px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif"=
>In my view that just adds a lot of extra work and security considerations =
to any project that wants to use it. It also means no-one can add anything =
clever with it that gives them a competitive edge without releasing the sou=
rce, so in that case they&#39;ll probably choose to build a GUI from scratc=
h rather than contribute anything.</span></div>
</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Here&#39;s the thing: we don&#39;t w=
ant people to not release the source. This might make sense from a money pe=
rspective, but we&#39;re true believers in the open source way. You can be =
competitive as a service provider on many other levels; after all, we&#39;r=
e just one piece of the machine. Our main ambition is to make this a single=
 implementation that is the best anyone can get, instead of some scattered =
implementations only to give a competitive edge.</div>
<div class=3D"im"><div><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><span style=
><font face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"line-height:19px">If we want a fr=
ee, uncustomised=A0proprietary windows GUI like VSphere Client then XenCent=
er does a great job. If we want a fully open, cross platform GUI that we ca=
n rebrand and customised for our own service offerings then we should be lo=
oking at something AJAX based with a BSD/MIT style license.=A0</span></font=
></span></div>

<div><span style><font face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"line-height:19px"=
><br></span></font></span></div></blockquote></div><div>The rebranding part=
 sounds rather odd to me: you could stick another logo on top, sure, but we=
 want to know about people&#39;s customizations. At this moment we&#39;re h=
appy we can boot an HVM domain but in the long term we&#39;d like to see th=
is grow to being the best (FOSS) management tool for XCP.=A0</div>
<div>To achieve that goal we need every contribution we can get (especially=
 from those running this in production). This way the GPL makes a bit more =
sense, as you said people need to maintain their modifications on file, so =
they might just as well be good open source citizens and contribute them.</=
div>
<div class=3D"im"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><span style><font face=
=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"line-height:19px">Just my 10 cents ;)</span>=
</font></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Appreciated,</di=
v><div>
W</div><div><br></div>PS: I didn&#39;t CC xen-users, I don&#39;t want to cr=
osspost too much.<div class=3D"im"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 February 2012 19:14, Wannes De Sm=
et <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wannes321@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">wannes321@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">

<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><b style=3D"line-height:normal;text-ind=
ent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;t=
ext-transform:none;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;word-spacing:0px"><=
font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"font-size:15px"><span style=3D"vertical-align:=
baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;backgro=
und-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">We&#39;re ha=
ppy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal</span><span style=
=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;backgroun=
d-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal"> </span><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whit=
e-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-wei=
ght:normal">to become the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.</span><br>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">We&#39;ve had the opportunit=
y to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP developers and now it&#39;s=
 time to announce the project to a larger public.</span><br>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Jav=
a backend delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.</span><br>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO re=
positories and iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works o=
n XenServer 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell. </span><b=
r>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">Development thus far has bee=
n carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend lead and Wannes De Smet, project le=
ad and backend developer. Of course, we now would like to welcome you in be=
coming a tester and/or contributor! </span><br>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">You can find more information at </span><span style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-sty=
le:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:base=
line;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href=3D"http://xen-master.org/" target=3D"_bl=
ank">xen-master.org</a></span><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-v=
ariant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:trans=
parent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">, to </span><a href=3D"http=
://wiki.xen-master.org/wiki/Installing" style=3D"white-space:normal" target=
=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparen=
t;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:=
underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">install and configu=
re XenMaster</span></a><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:=
normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;=
text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">. If you&#39;d like to help and ha=
ve experience in developing Java and/or Javascript, load the source in your=
 favorite IDE and have at it!</span><br>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">If you have any questions at=
 all, we&#39;ll be happy to answer them here or through GitHub.</span><br>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">We hope to welcome you in us=
ing XenMaster!</span><br>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">Jorgen Evens</span><span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">Wannes De Smet</span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:ba=
seline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;backgroun=
d-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:bold">XenMaster </span=
></font></span></font></b></div>

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You are right that free and open is good. But that's exactly why I don't
think GPL is the right choice in this case.
Look at Apache for example... just because the Apache license doesn't
contain the GPL "viral" clause and other restrictions doesn't mean people
don't release their modules for free. The point is, that if they need to
keep certain bits closed for security reasons, or they write some extra
functionality based upon it that they want to try to sell, they are free to
do so. No-one's going to suddenly close the source of the main project and
if anyone does make some commercial closed source addons then good luck to
them, all it means is that they're got paying customers who will now expect
things to work, and if there are any bugs in the core they'll have to fix
them and its in their best interests to submit them to the core project
anyway rather than maintain diffs and having to switch their solution for
someone elses later...
Give people full freedom and they'll often choose to contribute. Prescribe
to them what they can and cannot do with their own work, and they'll often
choose a different base for their projects (such as libvirt in this case).

What XAPI is lacking right now is a really nice, clean, free and open GUI
framework that people can chop and change to their needs, whether they want
a simple web access for starting VMs on their home server or want to
incorporate it into their commercial cloud platform offerings with their
custom metering and billing.
There are loads of commercial cloud platforms and VM management solutions
out there, but there's no real standard, because no-one has made a
non-proprietary, non-GPL, truly open base system that can be moulded to
suit the needs of each geek's particular hardware setup and user
base. That's the niche I think.

If it's going to be just another out-of-the-box vSphere client clone then
there's XenCenter and OpenXenManager already...



On 12 February 2012 13:34, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12 Feb 2012, at 13:36, msgbox450@gmail.com wrote:
>
> This looks nice although I am not really sure I understand the angle
> you're coming from here...
>
> You're announcing a GUI, but the site is just a wiki with text and a bit
> of bashing vmware and windows but no screenshots of nice GUI designs or
> explanations of how yours will be better=85
>
>
> I should've noted that this was merely an announcement to let everyone
> know we're alive and to give it a shot, we're not even close to a 1.0
> release. However your point is valid and we've added it on our TODO list.
>
> In my view, XAPI already has a decent Windows GUI in the form of
> XenCenter, the bit we're missing is a really good cross-platform and full=
y
> open gui base. Java isn't a great choice for that due to the anti-java
> feelings around the community and GPL is also not a great choice given it=
s
> viral nature.
>
>
> You seem to have a misunderstanding of the GPL in your wiki too when you
> say "the GPLv3 requires that everyone who improves our project, makes his
> work available publicly".  It doesn't - not if people just use it in hous=
e.
> People can make their own improvements all they like without releasing it=
.
>
> What the GPL actually means for anyone who wants to make a rebranded
> release of it for their clients or customers though, is that they will ha=
ve
> to maintain a full archive of all the source going back all the versions,
> including all their little service-specific tweaks and then make it readi=
ly
> available to whoever wants it on request.
>
>
> Thanks for pointing that out.
>
> In my view that just adds a lot of extra work and security considerations
> to any project that wants to use it. It also means no-one can add anythin=
g
> clever with it that gives them a competitive edge without releasing the
> source, so in that case they'll probably choose to build a GUI from scrat=
ch
> rather than contribute anything.
>
>
> Here's the thing: we don't want people to not release the source. This
> might make sense from a money perspective, but we're true believers in th=
e
> open source way. You can be competitive as a service provider on many oth=
er
> levels; after all, we're just one piece of the machine. Our main ambition
> is to make this a single implementation that is the best anyone can get,
> instead of some scattered implementations only to give a competitive edge=
.
>
> If we want a free, uncustomised proprietary windows GUI like VSphere
> Client then XenCenter does a great job. If we want a fully open, cross
> platform GUI that we can rebrand and customised for our own service
> offerings then we should be looking at something AJAX based with a BSD/MI=
T
> style license.
>
> The rebranding part sounds rather odd to me: you could stick another logo
> on top, sure, but we want to know about people's customizations. At this
> moment we're happy we can boot an HVM domain but in the long term we'd li=
ke
> to see this grow to being the best (FOSS) management tool for XCP.
> To achieve that goal we need every contribution we can get (especially
> from those running this in production). This way the GPL makes a bit more
> sense, as you said people need to maintain their modifications on file, s=
o
> they might just as well be good open source citizens and contribute them.
>
> Just my 10 cents ;)
>
>
> Appreciated,
> W
>
> PS: I didn't CC xen-users, I don't want to crosspost too much.
>
>
> On 11 February 2012 19:14, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal to
>> become the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.
>>
>> We've had the opportunity to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP
>> developers and now it's time to announce the project to a larger public.
>> XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java backend
>> delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.
>> At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO repositories and
>> iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works on XenServer
>> 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell.
>>
>> Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend lead
>> and Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of course, we no=
w
>> would like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or contributor!
>> You can find more information at xen-master.org, to install and
>> configure XenMaster <http://wiki.xen-master.org/wiki/Installing>. If
>> you'd like to help and have experience in developing Java and/or
>> Javascript, load the source in your favorite IDE and have at it!
>>
>> If you have any questions at all, we'll be happy to answer them here or
>> through GitHub.
>>
>> We hope to welcome you in using XenMaster!
>> Jorgen Evens
>> Wannes De Smet
>> XenMaster *
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> xen-api mailing list
>> xen-api@lists.xensource.com
>> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api
>>
>>
>
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You are right that free and open is good. But that&#39;s exactly why I don&=
#39;t think GPL is the right choice in this case.<div>Look at Apache for ex=
ample... just because the Apache license doesn&#39;t contain the GPL &quot;=
viral&quot; clause and other restrictions doesn&#39;t mean people don&#39;t=
 release their modules for free. The point is, that if they need to keep ce=
rtain bits closed for security reasons, or they write some extra functional=
ity based upon it that they want to try to sell, they are free to do so. No=
-one&#39;s going to suddenly close the source of the main project and if an=
yone does make some commercial closed source addons then good luck to them,=
 all it means is that they&#39;re got paying customers who will now expect =
things to work, and if there are any bugs in the core they&#39;ll have to f=
ix them and its in their best interests to submit them to the core project =
anyway rather than maintain diffs and having to switch their solution for s=
omeone elses later...=A0</div>
<div>Give people full freedom and they&#39;ll often choose to contribute. P=
rescribe to them what they can and cannot do with their own work, and they&=
#39;ll often choose a different base for their projects (such as libvirt in=
 this case).</div>
<div><br></div><div>What XAPI is lacking right now is a really nice, clean,=
 free and open GUI framework that people can chop and change to their needs=
, whether they want a simple web access for starting VMs on their home serv=
er or want to incorporate it into their commercial cloud platform offerings=
 with their custom metering and billing.=A0</div>
<div>There are loads of commercial cloud platforms and VM management soluti=
ons out there, but there&#39;s no real standard, because no-one has made a =
non-proprietary, non-GPL, truly open base system that can be moulded to sui=
t the needs of each geek&#39;s particular hardware setup and user base.=A0T=
hat&#39;s the niche I think.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If it&#39;s going to be just another out-of-the-box vSp=
here client clone then there&#39;s XenCenter and OpenXenManager already...<=
/div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 1=
2 February 2012 13:34, Wannes De Smet <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:wannes321@gmail.com">wannes321@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><di=
v class=3D"im"><div>On 12 Feb 2012, at 13:36, <a href=3D"mailto:msgbox450@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">msgbox450@gmail.com</a> wrote:</div>
<br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"im">This looks nice altho=
ugh I am not really sure I understand the angle you&#39;re coming from here=
...<div><br></div></div><div>You&#39;re announcing a GUI, but the site is j=
ust a wiki with text and a bit of bashing vmware and windows but no screens=
hots of nice GUI designs or explanations of how yours will be better=85=A0<=
/div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I should&#39;ve noted that this was merely=
 an announcement to let everyone know we&#39;re alive and to give it a shot=
, we&#39;re not even close to a 1.0 release. However your point is valid an=
d we&#39;ve added it on our TODO list.</div>
<div class=3D"im"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>In my view, XAPI already has a decent Windows GUI in the form of XenCe=
nter, the bit we&#39;re missing is a really good cross-platform and fully o=
pen gui base. Java isn&#39;t a great choice for that due to the anti-java f=
eelings around the community and GPL is also not a great choice given its v=
iral nature.</div>
</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><br></div><div>You seem to have a misunderstanding of the GPL in your =
wiki too when you say &quot;<span style=3D"line-height:19px;font-size:13px;=
font-family:sans-serif">the GPLv3 requires that everyone who improves our p=
roject, makes his work available publicly&quot;. =A0It doesn&#39;t - not if=
 people just use it in house. People can make their own improvements all th=
ey like without releasing it.</span></div>
</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><span style=3D"line-height:19px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif"=
>What the GPL actually means for anyone who wants to make a rebranded relea=
se of it for their clients or customers though, is that they will have to m=
aintain a full archive of all the source going back all the versions, inclu=
ding all their little service-specific tweaks and then make it readily avai=
lable to whoever wants it on request.=A0</span></div>
</blockquote><div><br></div></div>Thanks for pointing that out.</div><div><=
div class=3D"im"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><span style=3D"line-height:19px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif"=
>In my view that just adds a lot of extra work and security considerations =
to any project that wants to use it. It also means no-one can add anything =
clever with it that gives them a competitive edge without releasing the sou=
rce, so in that case they&#39;ll probably choose to build a GUI from scratc=
h rather than contribute anything.</span></div>
</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Here&#39;s the thing: we don&#39;t w=
ant people to not release the source. This might make sense from a money pe=
rspective, but we&#39;re true believers in the open source way. You can be =
competitive as a service provider on many other levels; after all, we&#39;r=
e just one piece of the machine. Our main ambition is to make this a single=
 implementation that is the best anyone can get, instead of some scattered =
implementations only to give a competitive edge.</div>
<div class=3D"im"><div><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><span style=
><font face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"line-height:19px">If we want a fr=
ee, uncustomised=A0proprietary windows GUI like VSphere Client then XenCent=
er does a great job. If we want a fully open, cross platform GUI that we ca=
n rebrand and customised for our own service offerings then we should be lo=
oking at something AJAX based with a BSD/MIT style license.=A0</span></font=
></span></div>

<div><span style><font face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"line-height:19px"=
><br></span></font></span></div></blockquote></div><div>The rebranding part=
 sounds rather odd to me: you could stick another logo on top, sure, but we=
 want to know about people&#39;s customizations. At this moment we&#39;re h=
appy we can boot an HVM domain but in the long term we&#39;d like to see th=
is grow to being the best (FOSS) management tool for XCP.=A0</div>
<div>To achieve that goal we need every contribution we can get (especially=
 from those running this in production). This way the GPL makes a bit more =
sense, as you said people need to maintain their modifications on file, so =
they might just as well be good open source citizens and contribute them.</=
div>
<div class=3D"im"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><span style><font face=
=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"line-height:19px">Just my 10 cents ;)</span>=
</font></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Appreciated,</di=
v><div>
W</div><div><br></div>PS: I didn&#39;t CC xen-users, I don&#39;t want to cr=
osspost too much.<div class=3D"im"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 February 2012 19:14, Wannes De Sm=
et <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wannes321@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">wannes321@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">

<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><b style=3D"line-height:normal;text-ind=
ent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;t=
ext-transform:none;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;word-spacing:0px"><=
font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"font-size:15px"><span style=3D"vertical-align:=
baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;backgro=
und-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">We&#39;re ha=
ppy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal</span><span style=
=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;backgroun=
d-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal"> </span><span =
style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;whit=
e-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-wei=
ght:normal">to become the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.</span><br>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">We&#39;ve had the opportunit=
y to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP developers and now it&#39;s=
 time to announce the project to a larger public.</span><br>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Jav=
a backend delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.</span><br>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO re=
positories and iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works o=
n XenServer 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell. </span><b=
r>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">Development thus far has bee=
n carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend lead and Wannes De Smet, project le=
ad and backend developer. Of course, we now would like to welcome you in be=
coming a tester and/or contributor! </span><br>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">You can find more information at </span><span style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-sty=
le:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:base=
line;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href=3D"http://xen-master.org/" target=3D"_bl=
ank">xen-master.org</a></span><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-v=
ariant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:trans=
parent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">, to </span><a href=3D"http=
://wiki.xen-master.org/wiki/Installing" style=3D"white-space:normal" target=
=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparen=
t;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:=
underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">install and configu=
re XenMaster</span></a><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:=
normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;=
text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">. If you&#39;d like to help and ha=
ve experience in developing Java and/or Javascript, load the source in your=
 favorite IDE and have at it!</span><br>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">If you have any questions at=
 all, we&#39;ll be happy to answer them here or through GitHub.</span><br>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal"></span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-va=
riant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transp=
arent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">We hope to welcome you in us=
ing XenMaster!</span><br>

<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">Jorgen Evens</span><span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:normal;font-style:norma=
l;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-weight:normal">Wannes De Smet</span><br><span style=3D"vertical-align:ba=
seline;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;backgroun=
d-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-weight:bold">XenMaster </span=
></font></span></font></b></div>

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Instead of harshing on your for using Java, I am going to say - Nicely
done!  I use either Linux or Mac OS X workstations, and have to run a
VM of Windows if I want to use a GUI to manage my Xen boxes.  I
actually prefer to do the management via a GUI because I don't have a
lot of time to waste on trying to remember all of the commands to do
stuff.  Thank you for the hard work, I will certainly be giving it a
try.

Regards,

Scott

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com> wrote:
> We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal to become
> the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.
>
> We've had the opportunity to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP
> developers and now it's time to announce the project to a larger public.
> XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java backend
> delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.
> At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO repositories and
> iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works on XenServer
> 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell.
>
> Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend lead and
> Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of course, we now would
> like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or contributor!
> You can find more information at xen-master.org, to install and configure
> XenMaster. If you'd like to help and have experience in developing Java
> and/or Javascript, load the source in your favorite IDE and have at it!
>
> If you have any questions at all, we'll be happy to answer them here or
> through GitHub.
>
> We hope to welcome you in using XenMaster!
> Jorgen Evens
> Wannes De Smet
> XenMaster
>
> _______________________________________________
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Instead of harshing on your for using Java, I am going to say - Nicely
done!  I use either Linux or Mac OS X workstations, and have to run a
VM of Windows if I want to use a GUI to manage my Xen boxes.  I
actually prefer to do the management via a GUI because I don't have a
lot of time to waste on trying to remember all of the commands to do
stuff.  Thank you for the hard work, I will certainly be giving it a
try.

Regards,

Scott

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com> wrote:
> We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal to become
> the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.
>
> We've had the opportunity to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP
> developers and now it's time to announce the project to a larger public.
> XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java backend
> delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.
> At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO repositories and
> iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works on XenServer
> 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell.
>
> Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend lead and
> Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of course, we now would
> like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or contributor!
> You can find more information at xen-master.org, to install and configure
> XenMaster. If you'd like to help and have experience in developing Java
> and/or Javascript, load the source in your favorite IDE and have at it!
>
> If you have any questions at all, we'll be happy to answer them here or
> through GitHub.
>
> We hope to welcome you in using XenMaster!
> Jorgen Evens
> Wannes De Smet
> XenMaster
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xen-users mailing list
> Xen-users@lists.xensource.com
> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users

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Screen shots are included on the Wiki...

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Ciprian Pantea <cipixul@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd love to give it a try too but screenshots would have been better :)
> I'm not clear though on the list of features and I don't find any on your
> site either.
>
>
> Good job!
> PS: try to get rid of java in the future
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 14:41, Scott Damron <sdamron@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Instead of harshing on your for using Java, I am going to say - Nicely
>> done! =A0I use either Linux or Mac OS X workstations, and have to run a
>> VM of Windows if I want to use a GUI to manage my Xen boxes. =A0I
>> actually prefer to do the management via a GUI because I don't have a
>> lot of time to waste on trying to remember all of the commands to do
>> stuff. =A0Thank you for the hard work, I will certainly be giving it a
>> try.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal to
>> > become
>> > the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.
>> >
>> > We've had the opportunity to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP
>> > developers and now it's time to announce the project to a larger publi=
c.
>> > XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java backend
>> > delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.
>> > At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO repositories and
>> > iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works on XenServer
>> > 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell.
>> >
>> > Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend le=
ad
>> > and
>> > Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of course, we now
>> > would
>> > like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or contributor!
>> > You can find more information at xen-master.org, to install and
>> > configure
>> > XenMaster. If you'd like to help and have experience in developing Java
>> > and/or Javascript, load the source in your favorite IDE and have at it!
>> >
>> > If you have any questions at all, we'll be happy to answer them here or
>> > through GitHub.
>> >
>> > We hope to welcome you in using XenMaster!
>> > Jorgen Evens
>> > Wannes De Smet
>> > XenMaster
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Xen-users mailing list
>> > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com
>> > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Screen shots are included on the Wiki...

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Ciprian Pantea <cipixul@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd love to give it a try too but screenshots would have been better :)
> I'm not clear though on the list of features and I don't find any on your
> site either.
>
>
> Good job!
> PS: try to get rid of java in the future
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 14:41, Scott Damron <sdamron@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Instead of harshing on your for using Java, I am going to say - Nicely
>> done! =A0I use either Linux or Mac OS X workstations, and have to run a
>> VM of Windows if I want to use a GUI to manage my Xen boxes. =A0I
>> actually prefer to do the management via a GUI because I don't have a
>> lot of time to waste on trying to remember all of the commands to do
>> stuff. =A0Thank you for the hard work, I will certainly be giving it a
>> try.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Wannes De Smet <wannes321@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > We're happy to announce XenMaster, which has the ambitious goal to
>> > become
>> > the de facto frontend for Xen with XCP.
>> >
>> > We've had the opportunity to present our project to some of the Xen/XCP
>> > developers and now it's time to announce the project to a larger publi=
c.
>> > XenMaster, in short, is a HTML5 frontend coupled to a Java backend
>> > delivering a rich UI for Xen, targeted at end users.
>> > At the moment, one is able to successfully add NFS ISO repositories and
>> > iSCSI/NFS storage repositories (iSCSI currently only works on XenServer
>> > 5.6), create a HVM VM and control it via a VNC shell.
>> >
>> > Development thus far has been carried out by Jorgen Evens, frontend le=
ad
>> > and
>> > Wannes De Smet, project lead and backend developer. Of course, we now
>> > would
>> > like to welcome you in becoming a tester and/or contributor!
>> > You can find more information at xen-master.org, to install and
>> > configure
>> > XenMaster. If you'd like to help and have experience in developing Java
>> > and/or Javascript, load the source in your favorite IDE and have at it!
>> >
>> > If you have any questions at all, we'll be happy to answer them here or
>> > through GitHub.
>> >
>> > We hope to welcome you in using XenMaster!
>> > Jorgen Evens
>> > Wannes De Smet
>> > XenMaster
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Xen-users mailing list
>> > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com
>> > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
>>
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Hello,

We would like to be able to connect to a virtual machine console through
XAPI from multiple computers at once.
Currently when a connection is already open and we try to open another one
on a different computer we only get the HTTP/1.1 200 OK headers from XAPI,
but no VNC data is received.
The second connections stays open until we close it manually.

We are trying to do this on Kronos.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
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 another one on a different computer we only get the=A0HTTP/1.1 200 OK head=
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<div>The second connections stays open until we close it manually.</div><di=
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Hello,

We would like to be able to connect to a virtual machine console through
XAPI from multiple computers at once.
Currently when a connection is already open and we try to open another one
on a different computer we only get the HTTP/1.1 200 OK headers from XAPI,
but no VNC data is received.
The second connections stays open until we close it manually.

We are trying to do this on Kronos.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
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Jorgen Evens

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On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 06:59:43PM +0100, Jorgen Evens wrote:
>    Hello,

Hello,

>    We would like to be able to connect to a virtual machine console through
>    XAPI from multiple computers at once.
>    Currently when a connection is already open and we try to open another one
>    on a different computer we only get the HTTP/1.1 200 OK headers from XAPI,
>    but no VNC data is received.
>    The second connections stays open until we close it manually.
>    We are trying to do this on Kronos.
>

My *guess* would be the Xen packages in Debian/Ubuntu are using the
standard Xen qemu-dm, which is based on old version of Qemu,
which does NOT have support for multiple connections to the VNC console.

XenServer/XCP have extra patches in Xen qemu-dm (backported from newer upstream Qemu)
that allow multiple connection to the VNC console.

-- Pasi


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On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 06:59:43PM +0100, Jorgen Evens wrote:
>    Hello,

Hello,

>    We would like to be able to connect to a virtual machine console through
>    XAPI from multiple computers at once.
>    Currently when a connection is already open and we try to open another one
>    on a different computer we only get the HTTP/1.1 200 OK headers from XAPI,
>    but no VNC data is received.
>    The second connections stays open until we close it manually.
>    We are trying to do this on Kronos.
>

My *guess* would be the Xen packages in Debian/Ubuntu are using the
standard Xen qemu-dm, which is based on old version of Qemu,
which does NOT have support for multiple connections to the VNC console.

XenServer/XCP have extra patches in Xen qemu-dm (backported from newer upstream Qemu)
that allow multiple connection to the VNC console.

-- Pasi


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Hi,

I'm not sure if you're aiming to have XCP 1.5 hosts managed with the XenCen=
ter client.  If you are, then I've found a bug.

Environment info:

Physical Host: XCP 1.5 beta (build 53341c)
XenCenter Version: 6.0 (build 50489)

Problem:

When I click the performance tab for the XCP 1.5 beta host, I get the follo=
wing error message in a pop up box.

Assertion Failed: Abort=3DQuit, Retry=3DDebug, Ignore=3DContinue

At ArchiveMaintainer.GetHost(IXenObject xmo)
At ArchiveMaintainer.Update()
At ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback =
callback, Object state)
At ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

If you hit abort, XenCenter closes.  If you hit Ignore, XenCenter will hang=
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Thanks!

Don


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Hi,

I'm not sure if you're aiming to have XCP 1.5 hosts managed with the XenCen=
ter client.  If you are, then I've found a bug.

Environment info:

Physical Host: XCP 1.5 beta (build 53341c)
XenCenter Version: 6.0 (build 50489)

Problem:

When I click the performance tab for the XCP 1.5 beta host, I get the follo=
wing error message in a pop up box.

Assertion Failed: Abort=3DQuit, Retry=3DDebug, Ignore=3DContinue

At ArchiveMaintainer.GetHost(IXenObject xmo)
At ArchiveMaintainer.Update()
At ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback =
callback, Object state)
At ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

If you hit abort, XenCenter closes.  If you hit Ignore, XenCenter will hang=
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t=3DQuit, Retry=3DDebug, Ignore=3DContinue<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
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r.Update()<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>At=
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> Would it be helpful to have one of Nicira's Open vSwitch
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Hi Ben,

I think there will some xapi/XCP folks there who I expect would be
interested in talking networking and vswitch in that context.

In the context of xen-unstable and the libx/xl toolstacks there's not
much required for vswitch integration -- just a working hotplug script
mechanism and a suitable script. I actually have patches for the script
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> Would it be helpful to have one of Nicira's Open vSwitch
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Hi Ben,

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much required for vswitch integration -- just a working hotplug script
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Ian.

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Normally this is fixed by using the xapi_version_override file and applying=
 the free xenserver license.  I have yet to get that to work on 1.5 but I n=
oticed that the license server now says 1.4.90 and doesn't expire now.


From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xen=
source.com] On Behalf Of Don Goodman
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To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com
Subject: [Xen-API] XCP 1.5 BETA BUG

Hi,

I'm not sure if you're aiming to have XCP 1.5 hosts managed with the XenCen=
ter client.  If you are, then I've found a bug.

Environment info:

Physical Host: XCP 1.5 beta (build 53341c)
XenCenter Version: 6.0 (build 50489)

Problem:

When I click the performance tab for the XCP 1.5 beta host, I get the follo=
wing error message in a pop up box.

Assertion Failed: Abort=3DQuit, Retry=3DDebug, Ignore=3DContinue

At ArchiveMaintainer.GetHost(IXenObject xmo)
At ArchiveMaintainer.Update()
At ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback =
callback, Object state)
At ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

If you hit abort, XenCenter closes.  If you hit Ignore, XenCenter will hang=
.

Thanks!

Don


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enter client.&nbsp; If you are, then I&#8217;ve found a bug.<o:p></o:p></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Environment =
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 the performance tab for the XCP 1.5 beta host, I get the following error m=
essage in a pop up box.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
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Normally this is fixed by using the xapi_version_override file and applying=
 the free xenserver license.  I have yet to get that to work on 1.5 but I n=
oticed that the license server now says 1.4.90 and doesn't expire now.


From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xen=
source.com] On Behalf Of Don Goodman
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:33 AM
To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com
Subject: [Xen-API] XCP 1.5 BETA BUG

Hi,

I'm not sure if you're aiming to have XCP 1.5 hosts managed with the XenCen=
ter client.  If you are, then I've found a bug.

Environment info:

Physical Host: XCP 1.5 beta (build 53341c)
XenCenter Version: 6.0 (build 50489)

Problem:

When I click the performance tab for the XCP 1.5 beta host, I get the follo=
wing error message in a pop up box.

Assertion Failed: Abort=3DQuit, Retry=3DDebug, Ignore=3DContinue

At ArchiveMaintainer.GetHost(IXenObject xmo)
At ArchiveMaintainer.Update()
At ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback =
callback, Object state)
At ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

If you hit abort, XenCenter closes.  If you hit Ignore, XenCenter will hang=
.

Thanks!

Don


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Verified I have the same issue.  Without setting the version to 5.6 or assu=
ming 6.0 none of the features in XenCenter are available.  This includes sn=
apshotting, ad integration, dr, ha, etc.



From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xen=
source.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Henderson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:55 AM
To: Don Goodman; xen-api@lists.xensource.com
Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XCP 1.5 BETA BUG

Normally this is fixed by using the xapi_version_override file and applying=
 the free xenserver license.  I have yet to get that to work on 1.5 but I n=
oticed that the license server now says 1.4.90 and doesn't expire now.


From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com<mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xens=
ource.com> [mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com]<mailto:[mailto:xen-=
api-bounces@lists.xensource.com]> On Behalf Of Don Goodman
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:33 AM
To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com<mailto:xen-api@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: [Xen-API] XCP 1.5 BETA BUG

Hi,

I'm not sure if you're aiming to have XCP 1.5 hosts managed with the XenCen=
ter client.  If you are, then I've found a bug.

Environment info:

Physical Host: XCP 1.5 beta (build 53341c)
XenCenter Version: 6.0 (build 50489)

Problem:

When I click the performance tab for the XCP 1.5 beta host, I get the follo=
wing error message in a pop up box.

Assertion Failed: Abort=3DQuit, Retry=3DDebug, Ignore=3DContinue

At ArchiveMaintainer.GetHost(IXenObject xmo)
At ArchiveMaintainer.Update()
At ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback =
callback, Object state)
At ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

If you hit abort, XenCenter closes.  If you hit Ignore, XenCenter will hang=
.

Thanks!

Don


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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Verified I ha=
ve the same issue.&nbsp; Without setting the version to 5.6 or assuming 6.0=
 none of the features in XenCenter are available.&nbsp; This includes snaps=
hotting, ad integration, dr, ha, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color=
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homa","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xe=
n-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shawn Henderson<br><=
b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:55 AM<br><b>To:</b> Don Goodman=
; xen-api@lists.xensource.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Xen-API] XCP 1.5 BETA=
 BUG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aria=
l","sans-serif";color:black'>Normally this is fixed by using the xapi_versi=
on_override file and applying the free xenserver license.&nbsp; I have yet =
to get that to work on 1.5 but I noticed that the license server now says 1=
.4.90 and doesn&#8217;t expire now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
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ef=3D"mailto:[mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com]">[mailto:xen-api-=
bounces@lists.xensource.com]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Goodman<br><b>Sent=
:</b> Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:=
xen-api@lists.xensource.com">xen-api@lists.xensource.com</a><br><b>Subject:=
</b> [Xen-API] XCP 1.5 BETA BUG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi, <o:p></o:p></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I&#8217;m not=
 sure if you&#8217;re aiming to have XCP 1.5 hosts managed with the XenCent=
er client.&nbsp; If you are, then I&#8217;ve found a bug.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Environment inf=
o:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal>Physical Host: XCP 1.5 beta (build 53341c)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal>XenCenter Version: 6.0 (build 50489)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Problem:<o:p></o:p></p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>When I click the =
performance tab for the XCP 1.5 beta host, I get the following error messag=
e in a pop up box.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>Assertion Failed: Abort=3DQ=
uit, Retry=3DDebug, Ignore=3DContinue<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal st=
yle=3D'margin-left:.5in'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
'margin-left:.5in'>At ArchiveMaintainer.GetHost(IXenObject xmo)<o:p></o:p><=
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ate()<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>At Exec=
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nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If you hit abort, XenCenter closes.&nbs=
p; If you hit Ignore, XenCenter will hang.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=
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Verified I have the same issue.  Without setting the version to 5.6 or assu=
ming 6.0 none of the features in XenCenter are available.  This includes sn=
apshotting, ad integration, dr, ha, etc.



From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xen=
source.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Henderson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:55 AM
To: Don Goodman; xen-api@lists.xensource.com
Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XCP 1.5 BETA BUG

Normally this is fixed by using the xapi_version_override file and applying=
 the free xenserver license.  I have yet to get that to work on 1.5 but I n=
oticed that the license server now says 1.4.90 and doesn't expire now.


From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com<mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xens=
ource.com> [mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com]<mailto:[mailto:xen-=
api-bounces@lists.xensource.com]> On Behalf Of Don Goodman
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:33 AM
To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com<mailto:xen-api@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: [Xen-API] XCP 1.5 BETA BUG

Hi,

I'm not sure if you're aiming to have XCP 1.5 hosts managed with the XenCen=
ter client.  If you are, then I've found a bug.

Environment info:

Physical Host: XCP 1.5 beta (build 53341c)
XenCenter Version: 6.0 (build 50489)

Problem:

When I click the performance tab for the XCP 1.5 beta host, I get the follo=
wing error message in a pop up box.

Assertion Failed: Abort=3DQuit, Retry=3DDebug, Ignore=3DContinue

At ArchiveMaintainer.GetHost(IXenObject xmo)
At ArchiveMaintainer.Update()
At ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback =
callback, Object state)
At ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

If you hit abort, XenCenter closes.  If you hit Ignore, XenCenter will hang=
.

Thanks!

Don


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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Verified I ha=
ve the same issue.&nbsp; Without setting the version to 5.6 or assuming 6.0=
 none of the features in XenCenter are available.&nbsp; This includes snaps=
hotting, ad integration, dr, ha, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color=
:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0=
in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ta=
homa","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xe=
n-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shawn Henderson<br><=
b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:55 AM<br><b>To:</b> Don Goodman=
; xen-api@lists.xensource.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Xen-API] XCP 1.5 BETA=
 BUG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aria=
l","sans-serif";color:black'>Normally this is fixed by using the xapi_versi=
on_override file and applying the free xenserver license.&nbsp; I have yet =
to get that to work on 1.5 but I noticed that the license server now says 1=
.4.90 and doesn&#8217;t expire now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:b=
lack'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-=
size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;pa=
dding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href=3D"mailto:xen-api=
-bounces@lists.xensource.com">xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com</a> <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com]">[mailto:xen-api-=
bounces@lists.xensource.com]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Goodman<br><b>Sent=
:</b> Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:=
xen-api@lists.xensource.com">xen-api@lists.xensource.com</a><br><b>Subject:=
</b> [Xen-API] XCP 1.5 BETA BUG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi, <o:p></o:p></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I&#8217;m not=
 sure if you&#8217;re aiming to have XCP 1.5 hosts managed with the XenCent=
er client.&nbsp; If you are, then I&#8217;ve found a bug.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Environment inf=
o:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal>Physical Host: XCP 1.5 beta (build 53341c)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal>XenCenter Version: 6.0 (build 50489)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Problem:<o:p></o:p></p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>When I click the =
performance tab for the XCP 1.5 beta host, I get the following error messag=
e in a pop up box.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>Assertion Failed: Abort=3DQ=
uit, Retry=3DDebug, Ignore=3DContinue<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal st=
yle=3D'margin-left:.5in'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
'margin-left:.5in'>At ArchiveMaintainer.GetHost(IXenObject xmo)<o:p></o:p><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>At ArchiveMaintainer.Upd=
ate()<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>At Exec=
utionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callbac=
k, Object state)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5=
in'>At ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If you hit abort, XenCenter closes.&nbs=
p; If you hit Ignore, XenCenter will hang.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Don<o:p></o:p></p><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></body></html>=

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Yes, that worked perfectly.

Thanks!

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Yes, that worked perfectly.

Thanks!

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: todd.deshane.xen@gmail.com [mailto:todd.deshane.xen@gmail.com] On Beh=
alf Of Todd Deshane
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:14 PM
To: Shawn Henderson
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Subject: Re: [Xen-API] XCP 1.5 BETA BUG

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Shawn Henderson <shenderson@remitdata.com=
> wrote:
> Normally this is fixed by using the xapi_version_override file and =

> applying the free xenserver license.=A0 I have yet to get that to work =

> on 1.5 but I noticed that the license server now says 1.4.90 and doesn't =
expire now.
>

Some information was posted by a user:
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XenCenterXCP#For_those_experimenting_with_XCP_1.5b=
eta_.281.4.90.29

Does that help?

Thanks,
Todd

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Yup worked great.  I love that all the appliances work out of the box.  I h=
ave all three setup and running great!

-----Original Message-----
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Yes, that worked perfectly.

Thanks!

Don

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On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Shawn Henderson <shenderson@remitdata.com=
> wrote:
> Normally this is fixed by using the xapi_version_override file and =

> applying the free xenserver license.=A0 I have yet to get that to work =

> on 1.5 but I noticed that the license server now says 1.4.90 and doesn't =
expire now.
>

Some information was posted by a user:
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XenCenterXCP#For_those_experimenting_with_XCP_1.5b=
eta_.281.4.90.29

Does that help?

Thanks,
Todd

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Yup worked great.  I love that all the appliances work out of the box.  I h=
ave all three setup and running great!

-----Original Message-----
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Yes, that worked perfectly.

Thanks!

Don

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On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Shawn Henderson <shenderson@remitdata.com=
> wrote:
> Normally this is fixed by using the xapi_version_override file and =

> applying the free xenserver license.=A0 I have yet to get that to work =

> on 1.5 but I noticed that the license server now says 1.4.90 and doesn't =
expire now.
>

Some information was posted by a user:
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XenCenterXCP#For_those_experimenting_with_XCP_1.5b=
eta_.281.4.90.29

Does that help?

Thanks,
Todd

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Why does this solution need to be manually hacked into each XCP node?  Why
can't this issue be properly addressed once and for all in either XenCenter
or by shipping XCP with the equivalent XenServer version override already in
place?  Same question goes for the licensing quirks in XCP.  Why can't these
little quirks be permanently fixed before XCP 1.5 final ships?  There is no
sensible reason to leave these quirks in the code.  They confuse and annoy
new users.

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> Normally this is fixed by using the xapi_version_override file and
applying
> the free xenserver license.=A0 I have yet to get that to work on 1.5 but I
> noticed that the license server now says 1.4.90 and doesn=92t expire now.
>

Some information was posted by a user:
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XenCenterXCP#For_those_experimenting_with_XCP_1.5be
ta_.281.4.90.29

Does that help?

Thanks,
Todd

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Why does this solution need to be manually hacked into each XCP node?  Why
can't this issue be properly addressed once and for all in either XenCenter
or by shipping XCP with the equivalent XenServer version override already in
place?  Same question goes for the licensing quirks in XCP.  Why can't these
little quirks be permanently fixed before XCP 1.5 final ships?  There is no
sensible reason to leave these quirks in the code.  They confuse and annoy
new users.

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On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Shawn Henderson
<shenderson@remitdata.com> wrote:
> Normally this is fixed by using the xapi_version_override file and
applying
> the free xenserver license.=A0 I have yet to get that to work on 1.5 but I
> noticed that the license server now says 1.4.90 and doesn=92t expire now.
>

Some information was posted by a user:
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XenCenterXCP#For_those_experimenting_with_XCP_1.5be
ta_.281.4.90.29

Does that help?

Thanks,
Todd

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On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 04:38:39PM +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 17:51 +0000, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> > Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> writes:
> > 
> > > I have made preparations to reach out to further groups in SIlicon
> > > valley, and want to ensure that the core people are signed up before I
> > > do this.
> > 
> > Would it be helpful to have one of Nicira's Open vSwitch
> > developers come? (Is anyone interested in discussing
> > networking-related topics?)  
> 
> I think there will some xapi/XCP folks there who I expect would be
> interested in talking networking and vswitch in that context.

Thanks.  I added my name to the wiki page.  I'll plan to attend at
least the first day, and then additional days as it becomes
worthwhile.

> In the context of xen-unstable and the libx/xl toolstacks there's not
> much required for vswitch integration -- just a working hotplug script
> mechanism and a suitable script. I actually have patches for the script
> growing stale in my queue -- they don't work because of issues with
> hotplug script running on shutdown (basically the xenstore info is gone
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Sounds good, thank you for the information.

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On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 04:38:39PM +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:
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> > Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> writes:
> > 
> > > I have made preparations to reach out to further groups in SIlicon
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> > > do this.
> > 
> > Would it be helpful to have one of Nicira's Open vSwitch
> > developers come? (Is anyone interested in discussing
> > networking-related topics?)  
> 
> I think there will some xapi/XCP folks there who I expect would be
> interested in talking networking and vswitch in that context.

Thanks.  I added my name to the wiki page.  I'll plan to attend at
least the first day, and then additional days as it becomes
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> In the context of xen-unstable and the libx/xl toolstacks there's not
> much required for vswitch integration -- just a working hotplug script
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> when the script runs so we can't remove the VIF from the switch). Roger
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Sounds good, thank you for the information.

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I hope that all of the OVS issues are being reported to us one way or
another, either via an OVS email list or the Debian bug tracking
system.  Right now I only see one unresolved bug in the Debian BTS
(which should get fixed this week) so I wonder whether some have been
missed?

Certainly face-to-face discussion can be productive, so I look forward
to seeing everyone in a few weeks.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:18:00PM +0000, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Ben,
> 
> Mike told me that there are some issues with XCP and Open vSwitch 1.4,
> where it would make sense to get Nicira and XCP guys into one room. In
> particular using OpenvSwitch 1.4 with the XCP toolstack on Debian Sid and
> Linux 3.2. The previous stable OVS release doesn't compile on Linux 3.2, so
> unless 1.4 works out of the box, we won't have OVS support in XCP toolstack
> on Ubuntu 12.04. That, plus maybe doing some early proof-of-concept work
> with Zeus (XCP on Fedora) may also make sense.
> 
> Regards
> Lars
> 
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 17:51 +0000, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> > > Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> writes:
> > >
> > > > I have made preparations to reach out to further groups in SIlicon
> > > > valley, and want to ensure that the core people are signed up before I
> > > > do this.
> > >
> > > Would it be helpful to have one of Nicira's Open vSwitch
> > > developers come? (Is anyone interested in discussing
> > > networking-related topics?)
> >
> > Hi Ben,
> >
> > I think there will some xapi/XCP folks there who I expect would be
> > interested in talking networking and vswitch in that context.
> >
> > In the context of xen-unstable and the libx/xl toolstacks there's not
> > much required for vswitch integration -- just a working hotplug script
> > mechanism and a suitable script. I actually have patches for the script
> > growing stale in my queue -- they don't work because of issues with
> > hotplug script running on shutdown (basically the xenstore info is gone
> > when the script runs so we can't remove the VIF from the switch). Roger
> > Pau Monee has a patch series fixing hotplug scripts and once it goes in
> > I'll resurrect my old patches.
> >
> > Ian.
> >
> > >   I've tentatively received permission
> > > from management here to join for one or more days if it would be
> > > useful.  We're in Silicon Valley anyway so it doesn't require
> > > much planning on our end.
> > >
> > >
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I hope that all of the OVS issues are being reported to us one way or
another, either via an OVS email list or the Debian bug tracking
system.  Right now I only see one unresolved bug in the Debian BTS
(which should get fixed this week) so I wonder whether some have been
missed?

Certainly face-to-face discussion can be productive, so I look forward
to seeing everyone in a few weeks.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:18:00PM +0000, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Ben,
> 
> Mike told me that there are some issues with XCP and Open vSwitch 1.4,
> where it would make sense to get Nicira and XCP guys into one room. In
> particular using OpenvSwitch 1.4 with the XCP toolstack on Debian Sid and
> Linux 3.2. The previous stable OVS release doesn't compile on Linux 3.2, so
> unless 1.4 works out of the box, we won't have OVS support in XCP toolstack
> on Ubuntu 12.04. That, plus maybe doing some early proof-of-concept work
> with Zeus (XCP on Fedora) may also make sense.
> 
> Regards
> Lars
> 
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 17:51 +0000, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> > > Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org> writes:
> > >
> > > > I have made preparations to reach out to further groups in SIlicon
> > > > valley, and want to ensure that the core people are signed up before I
> > > > do this.
> > >
> > > Would it be helpful to have one of Nicira's Open vSwitch
> > > developers come? (Is anyone interested in discussing
> > > networking-related topics?)
> >
> > Hi Ben,
> >
> > I think there will some xapi/XCP folks there who I expect would be
> > interested in talking networking and vswitch in that context.
> >
> > In the context of xen-unstable and the libx/xl toolstacks there's not
> > much required for vswitch integration -- just a working hotplug script
> > mechanism and a suitable script. I actually have patches for the script
> > growing stale in my queue -- they don't work because of issues with
> > hotplug script running on shutdown (basically the xenstore info is gone
> > when the script runs so we can't remove the VIF from the switch). Roger
> > Pau Monee has a patch series fixing hotplug scripts and once it goes in
> > I'll resurrect my old patches.
> >
> > Ian.
> >
> > >   I've tentatively received permission
> > > from management here to join for one or more days if it would be
> > > useful.  We're in Silicon Valley anyway so it doesn't require
> > > much planning on our end.
> > >
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Found this on the wiki. Worked like a champ. :-)

Regarding Fix #1 (xapi_version_override):
This doesn't seem to work with XCP 1.4.90 (but may work with later =
releases). For now, you need to do a binary patch of =
/opt/xensource/bin/xapi. Otherwise XenCenter will always recognize XCP =
as a very old XenServer release and this causes trouble in many =
situations.=20

To do the binary patch, do the following on every XCP 1.4.90 host:

cd /opt/xensource/bin
/etc/init.d/xapi stop
cp -vp xapi xapi.original
sed -i 's/1\.4\.90/6.0.99/g' xapi
/etc/init.d/xapi start

After re-connecting XenCenter to the XCP host, it will be identified as =
a XenServer 6.0 host, enabling all the wonderful modern features and =
fixing some strange behavior you may have encountered before patching.
Btw., of course there is no 6.0.99 version of XenServer, but it should =
be the highest value the version identification of XenServer 6.0 should =
ever reach (unless there's a new service/feature pack or completely new =
version released), so it should be the best setting to get all features =
in XenCenter 6.0 for any 6.0-compatible XCP release.

As mentioned above in the Fix #1 section, XenCenter will complain about =
the official XCP Xen Tools being outdated, since they also report 1.4.90 =
as version identification.

Taking the fixes for XenTools as described above and modifying them for =
XCP 1.4.90, they now look like this:

On each Linux guest with xe-guest-utilities (Xen Tools) installed:
sed -i /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs -e 's/MajorVersion" =
"1"/MajorVersion" "6"/'
sed -i /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs -e 's/MinorVersion" =
"4"/MinorVersion" "0"/'
sed -i /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs -e 's/MicroVersion" =
"90"/MicroVersion" "99"/'

# wait 2 minutes and check XenCenter again (or just execute =
/usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs )

On each Windows guest with Xen Tools installed, modify the following =
registry values:

Server 2003/XP - Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Citrix\XenTools
Server 2008 64-bit - =
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Citrix\XenTools

Name
Data (hex)
MajorVersion
6
MicroVersion
0
MinorVersion
99

(Only decimal values shown here, Windows Registry will show both decimal =
and hex.)

Then reboot the Windows guest or restart the 'Citrix Tools for Virtual =
Machine Service' service.=20

Restarting XenTools on Windows command line (cmd) works like this:

net stop xensvc
net start xensvc


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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Found =
this on the wiki. Worked like a champ. :-)<div><br></div><div>
<!--StartFragment--><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">Regarding Fix #1
(xapi_version_override): </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">This doesn't seem to
work with XCP 1.4.90 (but may work with later releases). For now, you =
need to
do a binary patch of /opt/xensource/bin/xapi. Otherwise XenCenter will =
always
recognize XCP as a very old XenServer release and this causes trouble in =
many
situations.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">To do the binary patch, do the following on every XCP 1.4.90 =
host: </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">cd
/opt/xensource/bin<br>
/etc/init.d/xapi stop<br>
cp -vp xapi xapi.original<br>
sed -i 's/1\.4\.90/6.0.99/g' xapi<br>
/etc/init.d/xapi start</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; =
font-size: 11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">After re-connecting
XenCenter to the XCP host, it will be identified as a XenServer 6.0 =
host,
enabling all the wonderful modern features and fixing some strange =
behavior you
may have encountered before patching. </div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">Btw., of course
there is no 6.0.99 version of XenServer, but it should be the highest =
value the
version identification of XenServer 6.0 should ever reach (unless =
there's a new
service/feature pack or completely new version released), so it should =
be the best
setting to get all features in XenCenter 6.0 for any 6.0-compatible XCP
release. </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">As mentioned above
in the Fix #1 section, XenCenter will complain about the official XCP =
Xen Tools
being outdated, since they also report 1.4.90 as version identification. =
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; =
"><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">Taking the fixes for
XenTools as described above and modifying them for XCP 1.4.90, they now =
look
like this: </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">On each Linux guest
with xe-guest-utilities (Xen Tools) installed: </div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">sed -i
/usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs -e 's/MajorVersion"
"1"/MajorVersion" "6"/'<br>
sed -i /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs -e 's/MinorVersion"
"4"/MinorVersion" "0"/'<br>
sed -i /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs -e 's/MicroVersion"
"90"/MicroVersion" "99"/'</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: 11pt; "><br>
# wait 2 minutes and check XenCenter again (or just execute
/usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs )</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: 11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">On each Windows
guest with Xen Tools installed, modify the following registry values: =
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; =
"><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">Server 2003/XP - <span =
style=3D"font-style:italic">Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Citrix\Xe=
nTools</span>
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">Server =
2008 64-bit -
<span =
style=3D"font-style:italic">Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432No=
de\Citrix\XenTools</span>
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; "><span =
style=3D"font-style:italic"><br></span></div>

<div style=3D"direction:ltr">

<table border=3D"1" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" valign=3D"top" =
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  vertical-align:top;width:1.0986in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; "><span =
style=3D"font-weight:bold">Name</span> </div>
  </td>
  <td style=3D"border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-width:1pt;=0D=

  vertical-align:top;width:.9548in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; "><span =
style=3D"font-weight:bold">Data (hex)</span> </div>
  </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
  <td style=3D"border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-width:1pt;=0D=

  vertical-align:top;width:1.0986in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">MajorVersion =
</div>
  </td>
  <td style=3D"border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-width:1pt;=0D=

  vertical-align:top;width:.9548in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">6 </div>
  </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
  <td style=3D"border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-width:1pt;=0D=

  vertical-align:top;width:1.0986in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">MicroVersion =
</div>
  </td>
  <td style=3D"border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-width:1pt;=0D=

  vertical-align:top;width:.9548in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">0 </div>
  </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
  <td style=3D"border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-width:1pt;=0D=

  vertical-align:top;width:1.0986in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">MinorVersion =
</div>
  </td>
  <td style=3D"border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-width:1pt;=0D=

  vertical-align:top;width:.9548in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">99 </div>
  </td>
 </tr>
</tbody></table><br>

</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">(Only =
decimal values
shown here, Windows Registry will show both decimal and hex.) </div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; =
"><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">Then reboot the
Windows guest or restart the 'Citrix Tools for Virtual Machine Service'
service.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">Restarting XenTools on Windows command line (cmd) works like =
this: </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
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xensvc<br>
net start xensvc</div>

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Found this on the wiki. Worked like a champ. :-)

Regarding Fix #1 (xapi_version_override):
This doesn't seem to work with XCP 1.4.90 (but may work with later =
releases). For now, you need to do a binary patch of =
/opt/xensource/bin/xapi. Otherwise XenCenter will always recognize XCP =
as a very old XenServer release and this causes trouble in many =
situations.=20

To do the binary patch, do the following on every XCP 1.4.90 host:

cd /opt/xensource/bin
/etc/init.d/xapi stop
cp -vp xapi xapi.original
sed -i 's/1\.4\.90/6.0.99/g' xapi
/etc/init.d/xapi start

After re-connecting XenCenter to the XCP host, it will be identified as =
a XenServer 6.0 host, enabling all the wonderful modern features and =
fixing some strange behavior you may have encountered before patching.
Btw., of course there is no 6.0.99 version of XenServer, but it should =
be the highest value the version identification of XenServer 6.0 should =
ever reach (unless there's a new service/feature pack or completely new =
version released), so it should be the best setting to get all features =
in XenCenter 6.0 for any 6.0-compatible XCP release.

As mentioned above in the Fix #1 section, XenCenter will complain about =
the official XCP Xen Tools being outdated, since they also report 1.4.90 =
as version identification.

Taking the fixes for XenTools as described above and modifying them for =
XCP 1.4.90, they now look like this:

On each Linux guest with xe-guest-utilities (Xen Tools) installed:
sed -i /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs -e 's/MajorVersion" =
"1"/MajorVersion" "6"/'
sed -i /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs -e 's/MinorVersion" =
"4"/MinorVersion" "0"/'
sed -i /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs -e 's/MicroVersion" =
"90"/MicroVersion" "99"/'

# wait 2 minutes and check XenCenter again (or just execute =
/usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs )

On each Windows guest with Xen Tools installed, modify the following =
registry values:

Server 2003/XP - Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Citrix\XenTools
Server 2008 64-bit - =
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Citrix\XenTools

Name
Data (hex)
MajorVersion
6
MicroVersion
0
MinorVersion
99

(Only decimal values shown here, Windows Registry will show both decimal =
and hex.)

Then reboot the Windows guest or restart the 'Citrix Tools for Virtual =
Machine Service' service.=20

Restarting XenTools on Windows command line (cmd) works like this:

net stop xensvc
net start xensvc


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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Found =
this on the wiki. Worked like a champ. :-)<div><br></div><div>
<!--StartFragment--><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">Regarding Fix #1
(xapi_version_override): </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">This doesn't seem to
work with XCP 1.4.90 (but may work with later releases). For now, you =
need to
do a binary patch of /opt/xensource/bin/xapi. Otherwise XenCenter will =
always
recognize XCP as a very old XenServer release and this causes trouble in =
many
situations.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">To do the binary patch, do the following on every XCP 1.4.90 =
host: </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">cd
/opt/xensource/bin<br>
/etc/init.d/xapi stop<br>
cp -vp xapi xapi.original<br>
sed -i 's/1\.4\.90/6.0.99/g' xapi<br>
/etc/init.d/xapi start</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; =
font-size: 11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">After re-connecting
XenCenter to the XCP host, it will be identified as a XenServer 6.0 =
host,
enabling all the wonderful modern features and fixing some strange =
behavior you
may have encountered before patching. </div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">Btw., of course
there is no 6.0.99 version of XenServer, but it should be the highest =
value the
version identification of XenServer 6.0 should ever reach (unless =
there's a new
service/feature pack or completely new version released), so it should =
be the best
setting to get all features in XenCenter 6.0 for any 6.0-compatible XCP
release. </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">As mentioned above
in the Fix #1 section, XenCenter will complain about the official XCP =
Xen Tools
being outdated, since they also report 1.4.90 as version identification. =
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; =
"><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">Taking the fixes for
XenTools as described above and modifying them for XCP 1.4.90, they now =
look
like this: </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">On each Linux guest
with xe-guest-utilities (Xen Tools) installed: </div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">sed -i
/usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs -e 's/MajorVersion"
"1"/MajorVersion" "6"/'<br>
sed -i /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs -e 's/MinorVersion"
"4"/MinorVersion" "0"/'<br>
sed -i /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs -e 's/MicroVersion"
"90"/MicroVersion" "99"/'</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: 11pt; "><br>
# wait 2 minutes and check XenCenter again (or just execute
/usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs )</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: 11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">On each Windows
guest with Xen Tools installed, modify the following registry values: =
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; =
"><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">Server 2003/XP - <span =
style=3D"font-style:italic">Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Citrix\Xe=
nTools</span>
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">Server =
2008 64-bit -
<span =
style=3D"font-style:italic">Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432No=
de\Citrix\XenTools</span>
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; "><span =
style=3D"font-style:italic"><br></span></div>

<div style=3D"direction:ltr">

<table border=3D"1" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" valign=3D"top" =
style=3D"direction:ltr;=0D
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border-collapse:collapse;border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-wi=
dth:=0D
 1pt">
 <tbody><tr>
  <td style=3D"border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-width:1pt;=0D=

  vertical-align:top;width:1.0986in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; "><span =
style=3D"font-weight:bold">Name</span> </div>
  </td>
  <td style=3D"border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-width:1pt;=0D=

  vertical-align:top;width:.9548in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; "><span =
style=3D"font-weight:bold">Data (hex)</span> </div>
  </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
  <td style=3D"border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-width:1pt;=0D=

  vertical-align:top;width:1.0986in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">MajorVersion =
</div>
  </td>
  <td style=3D"border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-width:1pt;=0D=

  vertical-align:top;width:.9548in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">6 </div>
  </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
  <td style=3D"border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-width:1pt;=0D=

  vertical-align:top;width:1.0986in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">MicroVersion =
</div>
  </td>
  <td style=3D"border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-width:1pt;=0D=

  vertical-align:top;width:.9548in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">0 </div>
  </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
  <td style=3D"border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-width:1pt;=0D=

  vertical-align:top;width:1.0986in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">MinorVersion =
</div>
  </td>
  <td style=3D"border-style:solid;border-color:#A3A3A3;border-width:1pt;=0D=

  vertical-align:top;width:.9548in;padding:4pt 4pt 4pt 4pt"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">99 </div>
  </td>
 </tr>
</tbody></table><br>

</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; ">(Only =
decimal values
shown here, Windows Registry will show both decimal and hex.) </div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; =
"><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">Then reboot the
Windows guest or restart the 'Citrix Tools for Virtual Machine Service'
service.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; ">Restarting XenTools on Windows command line (cmd) works like =
this: </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
11pt; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
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xensvc<br>
net start xensvc</div>

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Hello,

I've got following problem with XCP 1.5 Beta:
I had working pool with 2 hosts running XCP 1.1 and could use live VM 
migration back and forth between hosts.
Bit after upgrading to XCP 1.5 Beta live migration is not working 
anymore, complaining to CPU incompability.
Here is CPU info for both hosts:
Host #1:
cpu_count                : 4
                    vendor: GenuineIntel
                     speed: 1995.033
                 modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5335  @ 2.00GHz
                    family: 6
                     model: 15
                  stepping: 11
                     flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr mca 
cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc aperfmperf 
pni vmx ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority
                  features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
     features_after_reboot: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
         physical_features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
                  maskable: no

Host #2:
cpu_count                : 2
                    vendor: GenuineIntel
                     speed: 2400.158
                 modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU            3060  @ 2.40GHz
                    family: 6
                     model: 15
                  stepping: 6
                     flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr mca 
cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc aperfmperf 
pni vmx est ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow
                  features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
     features_after_reboot: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
         physical_features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
                  maskable: no

I've tried to set pool-other-config:cpuid_feature_mask to 
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But it didn't help.

Is there a way to overcome this problem? Or it is not possible with new 
version?

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Hello,

I've got following problem with XCP 1.5 Beta:
I had working pool with 2 hosts running XCP 1.1 and could use live VM 
migration back and forth between hosts.
Bit after upgrading to XCP 1.5 Beta live migration is not working 
anymore, complaining to CPU incompability.
Here is CPU info for both hosts:
Host #1:
cpu_count                : 4
                    vendor: GenuineIntel
                     speed: 1995.033
                 modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5335  @ 2.00GHz
                    family: 6
                     model: 15
                  stepping: 11
                     flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr mca 
cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc aperfmperf 
pni vmx ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority
                  features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
     features_after_reboot: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
         physical_features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
                  maskable: no

Host #2:
cpu_count                : 2
                    vendor: GenuineIntel
                     speed: 2400.158
                 modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU            3060  @ 2.40GHz
                    family: 6
                     model: 15
                  stepping: 6
                     flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr mca 
cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc aperfmperf 
pni vmx est ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow
                  features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
     features_after_reboot: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
         physical_features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
                  maskable: no

I've tried to set pool-other-config:cpuid_feature_mask to 
fffbff7f-ffffffff-ffffffff-ffffffff
But it didn't help.

Is there a way to overcome this problem? Or it is not possible with new 
version?

Thanks in advance,
Eugene


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Hi Eugene,

If you call vm-migrate with the option "force=true" then the CPU compatibility check should be disabled.

John

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Subject: [Xen-API] Heterogeneous pools question

Hello,

I've got following problem with XCP 1.5 Beta:
I had working pool with 2 hosts running XCP 1.1 and could use live VM migration back and forth between hosts.
Bit after upgrading to XCP 1.5 Beta live migration is not working anymore, complaining to CPU incompability.
Here is CPU info for both hosts:
Host #1:
cpu_count                : 4
                    vendor: GenuineIntel
                     speed: 1995.033
                 modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5335  @ 2.00GHz
                    family: 6
                     model: 15
                  stepping: 11
                     flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr mca cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc aperfmperf pni vmx ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority
                  features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
     features_after_reboot: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
         physical_features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
                  maskable: no

Host #2:
cpu_count                : 2
                    vendor: GenuineIntel
                     speed: 2400.158
                 modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU            3060  @ 2.40GHz
                    family: 6
                     model: 15
                  stepping: 6
                     flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr mca cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc aperfmperf pni vmx est ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow
                  features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
     features_after_reboot: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
         physical_features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
                  maskable: no

I've tried to set pool-other-config:cpuid_feature_mask to fffbff7f-ffffffff-ffffffff-ffffffff
But it didn't help.

Is there a way to overcome this problem? Or it is not possible with new version?

Thanks in advance,
Eugene


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Hi Eugene,

If you call vm-migrate with the option "force=true" then the CPU compatibility check should be disabled.

John

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Subject: [Xen-API] Heterogeneous pools question

Hello,

I've got following problem with XCP 1.5 Beta:
I had working pool with 2 hosts running XCP 1.1 and could use live VM migration back and forth between hosts.
Bit after upgrading to XCP 1.5 Beta live migration is not working anymore, complaining to CPU incompability.
Here is CPU info for both hosts:
Host #1:
cpu_count                : 4
                    vendor: GenuineIntel
                     speed: 1995.033
                 modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5335  @ 2.00GHz
                    family: 6
                     model: 15
                  stepping: 11
                     flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr mca cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc aperfmperf pni vmx ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority
                  features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
     features_after_reboot: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
         physical_features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
                  maskable: no

Host #2:
cpu_count                : 2
                    vendor: GenuineIntel
                     speed: 2400.158
                 modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU            3060  @ 2.40GHz
                    family: 6
                     model: 15
                  stepping: 6
                     flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr mca cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc aperfmperf pni vmx est ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow
                  features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
     features_after_reboot: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
         physical_features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
                  maskable: no

I've tried to set pool-other-config:cpuid_feature_mask to fffbff7f-ffffffff-ffffffff-ffffffff
But it didn't help.

Is there a way to overcome this problem? Or it is not possible with new version?

Thanks in advance,
Eugene


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He should not need to force=true the migration, since he is using CPU
feature leveling.  With earlier versions of XCP, force=true is not required
once CPU features are leveled.  Is that no longer the case with XCP 1.5?

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Hi Eugene,

If you call vm-migrate with the option "force=true" then the CPU
compatibility check should be disabled.

John

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Subject: [Xen-API] Heterogeneous pools question

Hello,

I've got following problem with XCP 1.5 Beta:
I had working pool with 2 hosts running XCP 1.1 and could use live VM
migration back and forth between hosts.
Bit after upgrading to XCP 1.5 Beta live migration is not working anymore,
complaining to CPU incompability.
Here is CPU info for both hosts:
Host #1:
cpu_count                : 4
                    vendor: GenuineIntel
                     speed: 1995.033
                 modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5335  @ 2.00GHz
                    family: 6
                     model: 15
                  stepping: 11
                     flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr mca
cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc aperfmperf pni
vmx ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority
                  features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
     features_after_reboot: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
         physical_features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
                  maskable: no

Host #2:
cpu_count                : 2
                    vendor: GenuineIntel
                     speed: 2400.158
                 modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU            3060  @ 2.40GHz
                    family: 6
                     model: 15
                  stepping: 6
                     flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr mca
cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc aperfmperf pni
vmx est ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow
                  features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
     features_after_reboot: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
         physical_features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
                  maskable: no

I've tried to set pool-other-config:cpuid_feature_mask to
fffbff7f-ffffffff-ffffffff-ffffffff
But it didn't help.

Is there a way to overcome this problem? Or it is not possible with new
version?

Thanks in advance,
Eugene


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He should not need to force=true the migration, since he is using CPU
feature leveling.  With earlier versions of XCP, force=true is not required
once CPU features are leveled.  Is that no longer the case with XCP 1.5?

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Hi Eugene,

If you call vm-migrate with the option "force=true" then the CPU
compatibility check should be disabled.

John

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Subject: [Xen-API] Heterogeneous pools question

Hello,

I've got following problem with XCP 1.5 Beta:
I had working pool with 2 hosts running XCP 1.1 and could use live VM
migration back and forth between hosts.
Bit after upgrading to XCP 1.5 Beta live migration is not working anymore,
complaining to CPU incompability.
Here is CPU info for both hosts:
Host #1:
cpu_count                : 4
                    vendor: GenuineIntel
                     speed: 1995.033
                 modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5335  @ 2.00GHz
                    family: 6
                     model: 15
                  stepping: 11
                     flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr mca
cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc aperfmperf pni
vmx ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority
                  features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
     features_after_reboot: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
         physical_features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
                  maskable: no

Host #2:
cpu_count                : 2
                    vendor: GenuineIntel
                     speed: 2400.158
                 modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU            3060  @ 2.40GHz
                    family: 6
                     model: 15
                  stepping: 6
                     flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr mca
cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc aperfmperf pni
vmx est ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow
                  features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
     features_after_reboot: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
         physical_features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
                  maskable: no

I've tried to set pool-other-config:cpuid_feature_mask to
fffbff7f-ffffffff-ffffffff-ffffffff
But it didn't help.

Is there a way to overcome this problem? Or it is not possible with new
version?

Thanks in advance,
Eugene


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Which block size is in VHD inside LVM? Is any way to change it? (I'm 
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Hi,

I looks like he is not using CPU feature levelling/masking, and his CPU does not support it ("maskable: no"). My guess he used the force option on pool-join to get these hosts into the same pool.

I think XCP 1.5 checks whether the CPU features match on VM migrate, whereas previous versions did not do that. It would be nice though, if VM migrate would take pool-other-config:cpuid_feature_mask into account, so what Eugene tried would have worked. Currently this mask is only used for pool join.

Cheers,
Rob

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> 
> He should not need to force=true the migration, since he is using CPU
> feature leveling.  With earlier versions of XCP, force=true is not
> required
> once CPU features are leveled.  Is that no longer the case with XCP 1.5?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of John Else
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> To: Eugene Chupriyanov; xen-api@lists.xensource.com
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> 
> Hi Eugene,
> 
> If you call vm-migrate with the option "force=true" then the CPU
> compatibility check should be disabled.
> 
> John
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com
> [mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Eugene
> Chupriyanov
> Sent: 17 February 2012 15:56
> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com
> Subject: [Xen-API] Heterogeneous pools question
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I've got following problem with XCP 1.5 Beta:
> I had working pool with 2 hosts running XCP 1.1 and could use live VM
> migration back and forth between hosts.
> Bit after upgrading to XCP 1.5 Beta live migration is not working
> anymore,
> complaining to CPU incompability.
> Here is CPU info for both hosts:
> Host #1:
> cpu_count                : 4
>                     vendor: GenuineIntel
>                      speed: 1995.033
>                  modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5335  @
> 2.00GHz
>                     family: 6
>                      model: 15
>                   stepping: 11
>                      flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
> mca
> cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc
> aperfmperf pni
> vmx ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority
>                   features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
>      features_after_reboot: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
>          physical_features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
>                   maskable: no
> 
> Host #2:
> cpu_count                : 2
>                     vendor: GenuineIntel
>                      speed: 2400.158
>                  modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU            3060  @
> 2.40GHz
>                     family: 6
>                      model: 15
>                   stepping: 6
>                      flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
> mca
> cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc
> aperfmperf pni
> vmx est ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow
>                   features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
>      features_after_reboot: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
>          physical_features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
>                   maskable: no
> 
> I've tried to set pool-other-config:cpuid_feature_mask to
> fffbff7f-ffffffff-ffffffff-ffffffff
> But it didn't help.
> 
> Is there a way to overcome this problem? Or it is not possible with new
> version?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Eugene
> 
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Hi,

I looks like he is not using CPU feature levelling/masking, and his CPU does not support it ("maskable: no"). My guess he used the force option on pool-join to get these hosts into the same pool.

I think XCP 1.5 checks whether the CPU features match on VM migrate, whereas previous versions did not do that. It would be nice though, if VM migrate would take pool-other-config:cpuid_feature_mask into account, so what Eugene tried would have worked. Currently this mask is only used for pool join.

Cheers,
Rob

> -----Original Message-----
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> bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of admin@xenhive.com
> Sent: 17 February 2012 21:18
> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com
> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Heterogeneous pools question
> 
> He should not need to force=true the migration, since he is using CPU
> feature leveling.  With earlier versions of XCP, force=true is not
> required
> once CPU features are leveled.  Is that no longer the case with XCP 1.5?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com
> [mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of John Else
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 10:58 AM
> To: Eugene Chupriyanov; xen-api@lists.xensource.com
> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Heterogeneous pools question
> 
> Hi Eugene,
> 
> If you call vm-migrate with the option "force=true" then the CPU
> compatibility check should be disabled.
> 
> John
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com
> [mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Eugene
> Chupriyanov
> Sent: 17 February 2012 15:56
> To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com
> Subject: [Xen-API] Heterogeneous pools question
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I've got following problem with XCP 1.5 Beta:
> I had working pool with 2 hosts running XCP 1.1 and could use live VM
> migration back and forth between hosts.
> Bit after upgrading to XCP 1.5 Beta live migration is not working
> anymore,
> complaining to CPU incompability.
> Here is CPU info for both hosts:
> Host #1:
> cpu_count                : 4
>                     vendor: GenuineIntel
>                      speed: 1995.033
>                  modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5335  @
> 2.00GHz
>                     family: 6
>                      model: 15
>                   stepping: 11
>                      flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
> mca
> cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc
> aperfmperf pni
> vmx ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority
>                   features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
>      features_after_reboot: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
>          physical_features: 0004e33d-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
>                   maskable: no
> 
> Host #2:
> cpu_count                : 2
>                     vendor: GenuineIntel
>                      speed: 2400.158
>                  modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU            3060  @
> 2.40GHz
>                     family: 6
>                      model: 15
>                   stepping: 6
>                      flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
> mca
> cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc
> aperfmperf pni
> vmx est ssse3 hypervisor tpr_shadow
>                   features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
>      features_after_reboot: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
>          physical_features: 0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20100800
>                   maskable: no
> 
> I've tried to set pool-other-config:cpuid_feature_mask to
> fffbff7f-ffffffff-ffffffff-ffffffff
> But it didn't help.
> 
> Is there a way to overcome this problem? Or it is not possible with new
> version?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Eugene
> 
> 
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Hi,

I'm having some obscure networking issues on XCP 1.5 beta. I have 
following configuration in  my lab:
1) Pool 1, 2 hosts
Host A (IBM x3650), 2 BCM5708 NICs
Host B (HP Proliant DL320 G5) 2 BCM5714 NICs

NIC 0 on both hosts used exclusively for management
NIC 1 has several VLANs with attached VMs

Pool was upgraded from XCP 1.1 release to XCP 1.5beta
  After upgrade I've noticed that VMs on Host A are working perfectly, 
but on Host B we have network probles: I can ping to/from VMs, but TCP 
sessions almost unusable (timeout all the time). If I switch Host B to 
bridge more (using /etc/xensource/network.conf) everything works perfectly.

2) Also I have a standalone clean XCP 1.5 beta install from scratch on a 
Host identical to Host be in case 1.
It also has the same network problems. But if I try to switch bridge 
mode in network.conf it boots without network setup at all.

Does it mean, that bridge mode will not supported anymore? How can I 
tune open vSwitch to fix these issues.

Thanks in advance,
Eugene

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Hi,

I'm having some obscure networking issues on XCP 1.5 beta. I have 
following configuration in  my lab:
1) Pool 1, 2 hosts
Host A (IBM x3650), 2 BCM5708 NICs
Host B (HP Proliant DL320 G5) 2 BCM5714 NICs

NIC 0 on both hosts used exclusively for management
NIC 1 has several VLANs with attached VMs

Pool was upgraded from XCP 1.1 release to XCP 1.5beta
  After upgrade I've noticed that VMs on Host A are working perfectly, 
but on Host B we have network probles: I can ping to/from VMs, but TCP 
sessions almost unusable (timeout all the time). If I switch Host B to 
bridge more (using /etc/xensource/network.conf) everything works perfectly.

2) Also I have a standalone clean XCP 1.5 beta install from scratch on a 
Host identical to Host be in case 1.
It also has the same network problems. But if I try to switch bridge 
mode in network.conf it boots without network setup at all.

Does it mean, that bridge mode will not supported anymore? How can I 
tune open vSwitch to fix these issues.

Thanks in advance,
Eugene

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Good day.

We've done following change in our XCP installation, I think it can be 
useful for others (and may be to upstream).

It change order of "extra_args" appending - instead joining to 
'internal' VM kernel args this patch add them to the front.

Rationale: if user make some (unbootable) error inside VM (f.e. make a 
mistake in 'root' option) it can change it via PV-args of virtual 
machine (instead xe-edit-bootloader). This allows us to provide 
'failsafe' services to customer without administrator interaction. Linux 
do have very simple behavior: if option repeated, first value used.


--- /usr/bin/pygrub.old    2012-02-20 17:55:22.000000000 +0400
+++ /usr/bin/pygrub    2012-02-20 17:56:01.000000000 +0400
@@ -753,7 +753,7 @@
          if chosencfg["args"] == None:
              chosencfg["args"] = extra_args
          else:
-            chosencfg["args"] += " " + extra_args
+            chosencfg["args"] = extra_args +  " " + chosencfg["args"]

      if not_really:
          bootcfg["kernel"] = "<kernel:%s>" % chosencfg["kernel"]


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Good day.

We've done following change in our XCP installation, I think it can be 
useful for others (and may be to upstream).

It change order of "extra_args" appending - instead joining to 
'internal' VM kernel args this patch add them to the front.

Rationale: if user make some (unbootable) error inside VM (f.e. make a 
mistake in 'root' option) it can change it via PV-args of virtual 
machine (instead xe-edit-bootloader). This allows us to provide 
'failsafe' services to customer without administrator interaction. Linux 
do have very simple behavior: if option repeated, first value used.


--- /usr/bin/pygrub.old    2012-02-20 17:55:22.000000000 +0400
+++ /usr/bin/pygrub    2012-02-20 17:56:01.000000000 +0400
@@ -753,7 +753,7 @@
          if chosencfg["args"] == None:
              chosencfg["args"] = extra_args
          else:
-            chosencfg["args"] += " " + extra_args
+            chosencfg["args"] = extra_args +  " " + chosencfg["args"]

      if not_really:
          bootcfg["kernel"] = "<kernel:%s>" % chosencfg["kernel"]


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> I'm having some obscure networking issues on XCP 1.5 beta. I have following
> configuration in  my lab:
> 1) Pool 1, 2 hosts
> Host A (IBM x3650), 2 BCM5708 NICs
> Host B (HP Proliant DL320 G5) 2 BCM5714 NICs
> 
> NIC 0 on both hosts used exclusively for management NIC 1 has several
> VLANs with attached VMs
> 
> Pool was upgraded from XCP 1.1 release to XCP 1.5beta
>   After upgrade I've noticed that VMs on Host A are working perfectly, but on
> Host B we have network probles: I can ping to/from VMs, but TCP sessions
> almost unusable (timeout all the time). If I switch Host B to bridge more
> (using /etc/xensource/network.conf) everything works perfectly.
> 
> 2) Also I have a standalone clean XCP 1.5 beta install from scratch on a Host
> identical to Host be in case 1.
> It also has the same network problems. But if I try to switch bridge mode in
> network.conf it boots without network setup at all.
> 
> Does it mean, that bridge mode will not supported anymore? How can I tune
> open vSwitch to fix these issues.

We have a suspicion this end that the problems you're encountering may be fixed in the release - are you able to take a later drop, or wait for RTM?

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> I'm having some obscure networking issues on XCP 1.5 beta. I have following
> configuration in  my lab:
> 1) Pool 1, 2 hosts
> Host A (IBM x3650), 2 BCM5708 NICs
> Host B (HP Proliant DL320 G5) 2 BCM5714 NICs
> 
> NIC 0 on both hosts used exclusively for management NIC 1 has several
> VLANs with attached VMs
> 
> Pool was upgraded from XCP 1.1 release to XCP 1.5beta
>   After upgrade I've noticed that VMs on Host A are working perfectly, but on
> Host B we have network probles: I can ping to/from VMs, but TCP sessions
> almost unusable (timeout all the time). If I switch Host B to bridge more
> (using /etc/xensource/network.conf) everything works perfectly.
> 
> 2) Also I have a standalone clean XCP 1.5 beta install from scratch on a Host
> identical to Host be in case 1.
> It also has the same network problems. But if I try to switch bridge mode in
> network.conf it boots without network setup at all.
> 
> Does it mean, that bridge mode will not supported anymore? How can I tune
> open vSwitch to fix these issues.

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I checked this a couple month ago, too. Try this:

telnet-ssl -z ssl 10.9.0.140 443

CONNECT /console?uuid=3Dcf6b253e-54a1-121c-12fd-49ab4c96ea1e HTTP/1.0
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Betreff: [Xen-API] Error 404 /console?ref=3D...

Hi, I'm stuck on a problem with the xen api, ask for the # xen-api and goog=
lee unresolved. I need to do is to see the virtual machine console via a we=
bsite using php. I get the url location (eg
https://192.168.0.1/console?ref=3DOpaqueRef=3Dblablabla) but when I make th=
e request (GET) with the browser I get 404 Not Found. From what I read, I n=
eed to connect to the HTTP CONNECT method but so it goes.
Someone could give me some hands?
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I checked this a couple month ago, too. Try this:

telnet-ssl -z ssl 10.9.0.140 443

CONNECT /console?uuid=3Dcf6b253e-54a1-121c-12fd-49ab4c96ea1e HTTP/1.0
Cookie: session_id=3DOpaqueRef:51f89333-e82d-65f5-ebb8-aa7c57211dcd



-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xens=
ource.com] Im Auftrag von Nycko
Gesendet: Samstag, 28. Januar 2012 00:14
An: xen-api@lists.xensource.com
Betreff: [Xen-API] Error 404 /console?ref=3D...

Hi, I'm stuck on a problem with the xen api, ask for the # xen-api and goog=
lee unresolved. I need to do is to see the virtual machine console via a we=
bsite using php. I get the url location (eg
https://192.168.0.1/console?ref=3DOpaqueRef=3Dblablabla) but when I make th=
e request (GET) with the browser I get 404 Not Found. From what I read, I n=
eed to connect to the HTTP CONNECT method but so it goes.
Someone could give me some hands?
Regards--
nycko

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Good day.

Why dom0 is creating automatic login session with root privileges on it 
own console? (I mean /dev/xvc0?).

Any guy, who was able to get non-root access to dom0 will be able 
easily  get root access to dom0 via 'xvncviewer localhost:5900'.

Is any REAL reason to have password-unprotected console, avaible to 
anyone on dom0?

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Good day.

Why dom0 is creating automatic login session with root privileges on it 
own console? (I mean /dev/xvc0?).

Any guy, who was able to get non-root access to dom0 will be able 
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Is any REAL reason to have password-unprotected console, avaible to 
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Just a reminder...

On February 28th and 29th CloudStack.org be holding a two day session
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To register for=A0Day 1=A0of this virtual event you must sign-up via the
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CloudStack.org
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Just a reminder...

On February 28th and 29th CloudStack.org be holding a two day session
focusing on the open source technologies you can use to build, manage
and deploy an open source cloud compute environment as well as DevOps
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Citrix,=A0Xen.org, Red Hat, Gluster, PuppetLabs, Opscode, Zenoss and
enStratus.

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we'll make our best effort to get you links to recordings and slide
decks after the event.

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infrastructure that compromises an infrastructure-as-a-service (IaaS)
cloud computing environment. The speakers will outline options for
virtualization, storage and orchestration that provide the foundation
for an open source cloud compute environment.

To register for=A0Day 1=A0of this virtual event you must sign-up via the
GoToMeeting Registration.=A0=A0(All times are EST).

10:00 a.m. -11:00 a.m. -=A0Welcome & Introduction to Open Source Cloud
Computing=A0-=A0Mark Hinkle, Director, Cloud Computing Community,
CloudStack.org
11:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. -=A0Cloud Computing with Xen Cloud Platform=A0-
Todd Deshane, Technology Evangelist ,=A0Xen.org
1:00 p.m. - 2:00 p.m. -=A0Distributed Pedabyte Scale Cloud Storage with
Gluster=A0-=A0John Mark Walker, Director of Communities, Red Hat/Gluster
2:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. -=A0Deploying Infrastructure-as-a-Service with
CloudStack=A0-=A0David Nalley, Community Manager,=A0CloudStack.org

Full details for Day 1 are available on CloudStack.org

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deploy cloud computing infrastructure. Find out how to rapidly
provision and configure infrastructure using tools that automate your
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To register for this live event via the=A0GoToMeeting Registration. (All
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Management and IT Automation Software, Luke Kanies, Founder PuppetLabs
11:30 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. -=A0Automating your Cloud Deployments with
Opscode Chef, Matt Ray, Senior Technical Evangelist, Opscode
1:30 p.m. - 3:00 p.m. -=A0Monitoring the Cloud with Zenoss Core, Simon
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Below are a few ideas which have been floating around as potential
projects (or broad subject areas for projects) for GSoC this year.

If you want any more information on any particular item then please ask.
Likewise if you have any ideas of your own please feel free to chip in.

If you think you might be interested in a project, either as mentor or
potential student, then please add it to the wiki page at
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/GSoC_2012_Ideas

Ian.

TOOLS
-----
- pv grub2
- xapi support in libvirt
- make xapi use libxl
- compile xapi on ARM
- OpenXenManager
- driver domains
- PV dbus
- HA daemon for Remus
- HA daemon for XCP

PERF
----
- Oprofile
- Linux perf tools in guest

HYPERVISOR
----------
- insmod Xen
- event channel limits
- NUMA

MEMORY
------
- disk based memory sharing
- memory scanner
- paging replacing PoD
- VM Fork
- Copy on read (past VDI boot)


IO
--
- PV OpenGL/Gallium
- PV USB
- PV USB3
- PV SCSI
- PVFB in Xorg
- Infiniband


STORAGE
-------
- gluster/ceph plugins


QEMU
----
- BSD libc
- upstream QEMU stubdoms


TESTS
-----
- better web reporting
- more tests
- upstream linux


DISTROS
-------
- packaging stubdoms
- xen on centos6
- driver domains
- figure out the VM format issue
- XSM in distros



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Below are a few ideas which have been floating around as potential
projects (or broad subject areas for projects) for GSoC this year.

If you want any more information on any particular item then please ask.
Likewise if you have any ideas of your own please feel free to chip in.

If you think you might be interested in a project, either as mentor or
potential student, then please add it to the wiki page at
http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/GSoC_2012_Ideas

Ian.

TOOLS
-----
- pv grub2
- xapi support in libvirt
- make xapi use libxl
- compile xapi on ARM
- OpenXenManager
- driver domains
- PV dbus
- HA daemon for Remus
- HA daemon for XCP

PERF
----
- Oprofile
- Linux perf tools in guest

HYPERVISOR
----------
- insmod Xen
- event channel limits
- NUMA

MEMORY
------
- disk based memory sharing
- memory scanner
- paging replacing PoD
- VM Fork
- Copy on read (past VDI boot)


IO
--
- PV OpenGL/Gallium
- PV USB
- PV USB3
- PV SCSI
- PVFB in Xorg
- Infiniband


STORAGE
-------
- gluster/ceph plugins


QEMU
----
- BSD libc
- upstream QEMU stubdoms


TESTS
-----
- better web reporting
- more tests
- upstream linux


DISTROS
-------
- packaging stubdoms
- xen on centos6
- driver domains
- figure out the VM format issue
- XSM in distros



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On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 04:53:57PM +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:
> Below are a few ideas which have been floating around as potential
> projects (or broad subject areas for projects) for GSoC this year.
> 
> If you want any more information on any particular item then please ask.
> Likewise if you have any ideas of your own please feel free to chip in.
> 
> If you think you might be interested in a project, either as mentor or
> potential student, then please add it to the wiki page at
> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/GSoC_2012_Ideas
> 
> Ian.
> 
> 
> HYPERVISOR
> ----------
> - insmod Xen
> - event channel limits
> - NUMA
> 

See below..

> IO
> --
> - PV OpenGL/Gallium
> - PV USB

Just for reference..
PVUSB (USB 2) driver for pvops Linux 3.x is available from:
http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-02/msg00576.html
http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-02/msg00571.html

http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_USB_Passthrough


> - PV USB3

Is anyone working on this?


> - PV SCSI

PVSCSI driver for pvops Linux 3.x is available from:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/konrad/xen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/devel/xen-scsi.v1.0

http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Paravirtualized_SCSI

> 
> 
> QEMU
> ----
> - BSD libc
> - upstream QEMU stubdoms
> 

Not sure if this should be in HYPERVISOR or QEMU section:

- Xen HVM guest direct kernel+initramfs boot support, just like for PV guests. 
This has been requested a couple of times and would be useful feature to have.
KVM/Qemu supports this.


-- Pasi



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On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 04:53:57PM +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:
> Below are a few ideas which have been floating around as potential
> projects (or broad subject areas for projects) for GSoC this year.
> 
> If you want any more information on any particular item then please ask.
> Likewise if you have any ideas of your own please feel free to chip in.
> 
> If you think you might be interested in a project, either as mentor or
> potential student, then please add it to the wiki page at
> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/GSoC_2012_Ideas
> 
> Ian.
> 
> 
> HYPERVISOR
> ----------
> - insmod Xen
> - event channel limits
> - NUMA
> 

See below..

> IO
> --
> - PV OpenGL/Gallium
> - PV USB

Just for reference..
PVUSB (USB 2) driver for pvops Linux 3.x is available from:
http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-02/msg00576.html
http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-02/msg00571.html

http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_USB_Passthrough


> - PV USB3

Is anyone working on this?


> - PV SCSI

PVSCSI driver for pvops Linux 3.x is available from:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/konrad/xen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/devel/xen-scsi.v1.0

http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Paravirtualized_SCSI

> 
> 
> QEMU
> ----
> - BSD libc
> - upstream QEMU stubdoms
> 

Not sure if this should be in HYPERVISOR or QEMU section:

- Xen HVM guest direct kernel+initramfs boot support, just like for PV guests. 
This has been requested a couple of times and would be useful feature to have.
KVM/Qemu supports this.


-- Pasi



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Got message for few VDI's:

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I'm not really well understand their meaning... Is VHD chain broken? Or 
something else? I got them for VDI on ISCSI SR without snapshotes...



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Good day.

Got message for few VDI's:

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reading footer at 0x4027ffe00 failed: -22

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something else? I got them for VDI on ISCSI SR without snapshotes...



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