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banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9664 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2017 16:55:21 -0000 Received: from mail.kernel.org (HELO mail.kernel.org) (198.145.29.99) by server-16.tower-21.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted SMTP; 29 Sep 2017 16:55:21 -0000 Received: from sstabellini-ThinkPad-X260.attlocal.net (104-6-24-213.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [104.6.24.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6D5B021875; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:55:19 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 6D5B021875 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 09:55:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@sstabellini-ThinkPad-X260 To: Lars Kurth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.10 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323329-433186882-1506704110=:17914" Content-ID: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 02 Oct 2017 08:47:51 +0000 Cc: Felipe Huici , "xen-api@lists.xenproject.org" , Alexander Dubinin , "committers@xenproject.org" , "mirageos-devel@lists.xenproject.org" , Samuel Thibault , xen-devel , Simon Kuenzer Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Formal vote on Unicore Proposal (deadline Frid, Oct 6th) X-BeenThere: xen-api@lists.xen.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User and development list for XCP and XAPI List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: xen-api-bounces@lists.xen.org Sender: "Xen-api" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323329-433186882-1506704110=:17914 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: On Fri, 29 Sep 2017, Lars Kurth wrote: > Dear committers, > > in accordance with https://www.xenproject.org/governance.html, I need the leadership teams of the two mature projects – the Hypervisor and the XAPI project – to vote on this proposal. > > The Advisory Board is endorsing the proposal and there seems to be wide consensus amongst community members. > > The specific voting rules in this case are outlined in section https://www.xenproject.org/governance.html#project-decisions > > People allowed to vote on behalf of the Hypervisor project are: > Julien Grall, Andy Cooper, George Dunlap, Ian Jackson, Jan Beulich, Konrad R Wilk, Stefano Stabellini, Tim Deegan, Wei Liu > > People allowed to vote on behalf of the XAPI project are: > Jon Ludlam, Chandrika Srinivasan, David Scott, Euan Harris, Germano Percossi, Siddharth Vinoth Kumar, John Else, Mate Lakat, Konstantina Chremmou, Rob Hoes, Si Beaumont, Thanos Makatos, Thomas Sanders, Vineeth Thampi Raveendran, Zheng Li > > I propose to tally the votes by Friday the 6th of October. You can reply via > +1: for proposal > -1: against proposal > in public or private. +1 > Votes will be tallied by subproject – aka the Hypervisor and XAPI project by % for the proposal - and then averaged across sub-projects that achieved the quorum. > > Sub-project needs to achieve the following quorum of votes in favour for the sub-project’s vote to count > Hypervisor: 3 + votes > XAPI: 5 + votes > > The proposals are attached > > Regards > Lars > > PROPOSAL: Unicore > ================= > > Roles > ----- > Project Leads: Simon Kuenzer > (co-lead) Felipe Huici > (co-lead) Florian Schmidt > Project Mentor: Lars Kurth > Project Sponsors: Stefano Stabellini > Wei Liu > > Background > ---------- > In recent years, several papers and projects dedicated to unikernels > have shown the immense potential for performance gains that these > have. By leveraging specialization and the use of minimalistic OSes, > unikernels are able to yield impressive numbers, including fast > instantiation times (tens of milliseconds or less), tiny memory > footprints (a few MBs or even KBs), high network throughput (10-40 > Gb/s), and high consolidation (e.g., being able to run thousands of > instances on a single commodity server), not to mention a reduced > attack surface and the potential for easier certification. Unikernel > projects worthy of mention include MirageOS, ClickOS, Erlang on Xen, > OSv, HALVM, and Minicache, Rump, among others. > > The fundamental drawback of unikernels is that they require that > applications be manually ported to the underlying minimalistic OS (e.g. > having to port nginx, snort, mysql or memcached to MiniOS or OSv); this > requires both expert work and often considerable amount of time. In > essence, we need to pick between either high performance > with unikernels, or no porting effort but decreased performance > and decreased efficiency with standard OS/VM images. > The goal of this proposal is to change this status quo by providing > a highly configurable unikernel code base; we call this base Unicore. > > This project also aims to concentrate the various efforts currently going > on in the Xen community regarding minimalistic OSes (essentially different > variants of MiniOS). We think that splitting the community across these > variants is counter-productive and hope that Unicore will provide a common > place for all or most improvements and customizations of minimalistic > OSes. The long term goal is to replace something like MiniOS with a tool > that can automatically build such a minimalistic OS. > > > Unicore - The "Unikernel Core" > --------------------------------- > The high level goal of Unicore is to be able to build unikernels targeted > at specific applications without requiring the time-consuming, expert work > that building such a unikernel requires today. An additional goal (or > hope) of Unicore is that all developers interested in unikernel > development would contribute by supplying libraries rather than working on > independent projects with different code bases as it is done now. The main > idea behind Unicore is depicted in Figure 1 and consists of two basic > components: > > [Attachment: unicore-oneslider.pdf] > > Figure 1. Unicore Architecture. > > Library pools would contain libraries that the user of Unicore can select > from to create the unikernel. From the bottom up, library pools are > organized into (1) the architecture library tool, containing libraries > specific to a computer architecture (e.g., x86_64, ARM32 or MIPS); (2) the > platform tool, where target platforms can be Xen, KVM, bare metal (i.e. no > virtualization) and user-space Linux; and (3) the main library pool, > containing a rich set of functionality to build the unikernel from. This > last library includes drivers (both virtual such as netback/netfront and > physical such as ixgbe), filesystems, memory allocators, schedulers, > network stacks, standard libs (e.g. libc, openssl, etc.), runtimes (e.g. a > Python interpreter and debugging and profiling tools. These pools of > libraries constitute a code base for creating unikernels. As shown, a > library can be relatively large (e.g libc) or quite small (a scheduler), > which should allow for a fair amount of customization for the unikernel. > The Unicore build tool is in charge of compiling the application and the > selected libraries together to create a binary for a specific platform and > architecture (e.g., Xen on x86_64). The tool is currently inspired by > Linux’s kconfig system and consists of a set of Makefiles. It allows users > to select libraries, to configure them, and to warn them when library > dependencies are not met. In addition, the tool can also simultaneously > generate binaries for multiple platforms. > As an example, imagine a user wanting to generate a network driver domain > unikernel. In this case, we would assume the “application” to be the > netback driver. To select this application, the user would first run “make > menuconfig” from within the netback application folder. The Makefile there > would set a variable to indicate what the application is, and would > include the main Unicore Makefiles so that the unikernel can be built > (Step 1 in the figure). Using the menu-based system, the user chooses the > relevant libraries; for a Xen driver domain this would include a physical > network driver, the netback driver, the libxenplat library and a library > from the architecture library pool such as libx86_64arch (Step 2 in the > figure). With this in place, the user saves the configuration and types > “make” to build the unikernel (Step 3) and “xl create” to run it (Step 4). > A note on the ABI/API exposed to the application: because Unicore allows > for customization of the unikernels, the ABI (or API since there is no > kernel) would be custom, that is, defined by the libraries the user > selected. Having said that, it would be perfectly possible, for instance, > to build POSIX-compliant unikernels with it (e.g. similar to Rump, but in > principle with much more specialized OS layers). > > Finally, it is worth pointing out that we use the term application > loosely: another clear target for Unicore is the building of > runtime-specific unikernels (e.g. a unikernel able to run Python or OCaml > scripts as is the case with MirageOS). > > > Relevance to Xen and its Community > ----------------------------------- > Unikernels are important to a number of areas relevant to the Xen > community, including IoT, automotive, stub domains, and driver domain/dom0 > disaggregation. Unicore could help boost the progress in all of these > areas by quickly providing the necessary tools to create unikernels for > them. For instance, for a driver domain, the user would include the > “library” containing the relevant hardware driver and corresponding > back-end driver, and in principle Unicore would take care of the rest. > > In addition, Unicore could eventually replace Mini-OS, providing a > cleaner, more stable and flexible base from which to build unikernels for > projects (the modularization of Mini-OS is in fact already taking place). > > > Current Status > -------------- > Unicore is at an early stage. For now it includes some base libraries with > code extracted from Mini-OS as well as a build tool inspired by Linux's > KConfig system. Unicore is currently able to build "hello world" > unikernels for Xen and Linux user space on x86_64 and ARMv7. > > Incubation > ---------- > The reason behind making Unicore a Xen sub-project project is to (1) > bring the existence of Unicore to the attention of the Xen community > and to outside world; (2) to attempt to harness interest and > potentially development cycles from people and companies interested in > unikernels; (3) to concentrate maintenance resources from people > interested in unikernels within the community; and (4) to have a legal > entity behind the project. > > License > ------- > The main license of the run-time components of Unicore will be a 3-clause > BSD license, unless there is a good reason not to use it (e.g. we may > import 2-clause BSD licensed code from Mini-OS, which we would *not* > anticipate to change). The Makefile system would be licensed under GPL v2 > or later as we want to be able to use KConfig functionality from > Buildroot/Linux. > > Required Infrastructure > ----------------------- > The official repositories should be created on > [http://xenbits.xenproject.org/] under `unicore.git`. There should be a > main repository for the core unicore implementation and additional > repositories for some more advanced extension libraries (e.g., lwIP, > newlib). > > ### Main repository > > `unicore.git` > > ### Repositories for extension libraries > > Repositories for additional libraries that are supported by the Unicore > project should exist under a separate directory: > > `unicore-libs/` > > For example: > > `unicore-libs/lwip.git` > `unicore-libs/newlib.git` > > ### Mailing list > > In the beginning we would use the MiniOS mailing list > (minios-devel@lists.xenproject.org). 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