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On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 12:05 PM Roger Pau Monn=C3=A9 <roger.pau@citrix.com> w=
rote:

> Please keep xen-users in the Cc.
>
> On Wed, Aug 01, 2018 at 11:47:23AM -0400, Paul Gorman wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 10:49 AM Roger Pau Monn=C3=A9 <roger.pau@citrix.co=
m>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 01:13:07PM -0400, Paul Gorman wrote:
> > > > Im using the the amdgpu driver. On gentoo, glamor is not an optiona=
l
> > > > dependency of such.
> > > >
> > > > In Xorg.0.log, the first error line is as follows:
> > > >
> > > > > (EE) glamor0: GL error: GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY in glTextSubImage
> > > >
> > > > Is there some kind of incompatibility? Or is there further setup
> that I
> > > > need to do beyond the bootloader? Is there some out-of-project patc=
h
> > > that I
> > > > need for xen?
> > >
> > > Not that I'm aware. How much memory are you assigning to Dom0?
> > >
> > > Roger.
> > >
> >
> > 1024M to start, up to 8192M. Eventually, I just gave it the whole 32GiB
> to
> > see if that would fix it. No progress.
> >
> > With increased verbosity on the logs, gallium seems to he the culprit.
> When
> > I tried rebuilding the system without it (gentoo), any gui tools like
> > firefox became unusably slow.
> >
> > I got a dirty workaround by replacing my desktop background with a soli=
d
> > color. Startx works then, but with some nasty screen artifacts
> > *everywhere*, especially in firefox. And opening up an image file
> crashes X.
> >
> > Still have no such problems when booting the kernel directly, only when
> > using it as Dom0. The firmware is compiled directly into the kernel. An=
y
> > Xen related options are compiled in. Kernel side amdgpu drivers are
> > compiled in as well.
> >
> > Should I need gpu passthrough to even get dom0's Xorg to function
> > correctly?
>
> Dom0 already has all the devices passed-through, you shouldn't need
> anything else.
>
> Which version of Xen and Linux are you using, and on what hardware?
>
> Roger.
>

I'm on Gentoo Linux, kernel 4.17.[5-11], Xen v4.11.0. An AMD-FX8350
processor, 32GiB ram. Radeon HD7770 gpu.

Nothing fancy. Just enough for the task.

>

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pau@citrix.com">roger.pau@citrix.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
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adding-left:1ex">Please keep xen-users in the Cc.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Aug 01, 2018 at 11:47:23AM -0400, Paul Gorman wrote:<br>
&gt; On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 10:49 AM Roger Pau Monn=C3=A9 &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:roger.pau@citrix.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">roger.pau@cit=
rix.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 01:13:07PM -0400, Paul Gorman wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Im using the the amdgpu driver. On gentoo, glamor is not an =
optional<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; dependency of such.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; In Xorg.0.log, the first error line is as follows:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; (EE) glamor0: GL error: GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY in glTextSubIm=
age<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Is there some kind of incompatibility? Or is there further s=
etup that I<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; need to do beyond the bootloader? Is there some out-of-proje=
ct patch<br>
&gt; &gt; that I<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; need for xen?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Not that I&#39;m aware. How much memory are you assigning to Dom0=
?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Roger.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; 1024M to start, up to 8192M. Eventually, I just gave it the whole 32Gi=
B to<br>
&gt; see if that would fix it. No progress.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; With increased verbosity on the logs, gallium seems to he the culprit.=
 When<br>
&gt; I tried rebuilding the system without it (gentoo), any gui tools like<=
br>
&gt; firefox became unusably slow.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I got a dirty workaround by replacing my desktop background with a sol=
id<br>
&gt; color. Startx works then, but with some nasty screen artifacts<br>
&gt; *everywhere*, especially in firefox. And opening up an image file cras=
hes X.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Still have no such problems when booting the kernel directly, only whe=
n<br>
&gt; using it as Dom0. The firmware is compiled directly into the kernel. A=
ny<br>
&gt; Xen related options are compiled in. Kernel side amdgpu drivers are<br=
>
&gt; compiled in as well.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Should I need gpu passthrough to even get dom0&#39;s Xorg to function<=
br>
&gt; correctly?<br>
<br>
Dom0 already has all the devices passed-through, you shouldn&#39;t need<br>
anything else.<br>
<br>
Which version of Xen and Linux are you using, and on what hardware?<br>
<br>
Roger.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquot=
e></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">I&#3=
9;m on Gentoo Linux, kernel 4.17.[5-11], Xen v4.11.0. An AMD-FX8350 process=
or, 32GiB ram. Radeon HD7770 gpu.</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=
=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=
=3D"font-family:sans-serif">Nothing fancy. Just enough for the task.</span>=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
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On Sun, Aug 12, 2018, 8:32 PM Glenn Enright <glenn@rimuhosting.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Doing some testing with 4.18 kernel, trying to get dom0=pvh working with
> xen4.11.
>
> Builds are from my own test machine, with a gcc8.0 toolchain for
> centos6. Test machine is a Supermicro X9 board with Dual E52630v2 cpus.
>
> What I'm seeing is that xen boots up fine, but on the transition to the
> linux kernel, the screen goes blank and the server never pings. I've
> tried a bunch of different command line options including various
> console/serial with no change.
>
> Does anyone have a magical set of xen boot options that could help get
> me started or at least show something to point the way?
>
> Thanks
> --Glenn
>
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Glenn! I had some issues getting Dom0 to boot up as well. My initramfs
requires a password entry, and such was not allowed by my initial setup. I
feel your pain.

Lemme share what got me off the ground, in case it has something you
haven't tried.

In the grub.cfg:

multiboot    /xen.gz dom0_mem=2048M.max:4096M iommu=no-igfx ucode=scan

module /vm-linuz-4.17.13-gentoo {stuff specific to my setup that I doubt we
have in common} softlevel=xen console=tty quiet vt.handoff=3

The "console=tty" was important for me. And vt.handoff=3 for a
console-booting system. vt.handoff=7 if it boots directly into a DE.

And now you've got me curious about how to replicate your success. Where is
the Dom0 config file where I can add "type=pvh"? Was there more involved
than what you've already mentioned?

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, =
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.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">glenn@rimuhosting.com</a>&gt; wr=
ote:</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
<br>
Doing some testing with 4.18 kernel, trying to get dom0=3Dpvh working with =
<br>
xen4.11.<br>
<br>
Builds are from my own test machine, with a gcc8.0 toolchain for <br>
centos6. Test machine is a Supermicro X9 board with Dual E52630v2 cpus.<br>
<br>
What I&#39;m seeing is that xen boots up fine, but on the transition to the=
 <br>
linux kernel, the screen goes blank and the server never pings. I&#39;ve <b=
r>
tried a bunch of different command line options including various <br>
console/serial with no change.<br>
<br>
Does anyone have a magical set of xen boot options that could help get <br>
me started or at least show something to point the way?<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
--Glenn<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Xen-users mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:Xen-users@lists.xenproject.org" rel=3D"noreferrer norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">Xen-users@lists.xenproject.org</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://lists.xenproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xen-users" rel=3D"=
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t.org/mailman/listinfo/xen-users</a></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"></div><div dir=3D"auto">Glenn! I had some i=
ssues getting Dom0 to boot up as well. My initramfs requires a password ent=
ry, and such was not allowed by my initial setup. I feel your pain.</div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Lemme share what got me off the=
 ground, in case it has something you haven&#39;t tried.</div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">In the grub.cfg:</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto">multiboot=C2=A0 =C2=A0 /xen.gz dom0_mem=3D2048M.m=
ax:4096M iommu=3Dno-igfx ucode=3Dscan</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"auto">module /vm-linuz-4.17.13-gentoo {stuff specific to my setup t=
hat I doubt we have in common} softlevel=3Dxen console=3Dtty quiet vt.hando=
ff=3D3=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The &quot;c=
onsole=3Dtty&quot; was important for me. And vt.handoff=3D3 for a console-b=
ooting system. vt.handoff=3D7 if it boots directly into a DE.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">And now you&#39;ve got me curious abo=
ut how to replicate your success. Where is the Dom0 config file where I can=
 add &quot;type=3Dpvh&quot;? Was there more involved than what you&#39;ve a=
lready mentioned?</div><div dir=3D"auto"></div></div>
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Hello!

What are all the options; or, how can I pass additional options to the Xen
EFI binary?

  fs0:\> xen-4.11.0.efi -cfg=test.cfg

We can pass a different config file to launch.  However, I'm trying to pass
additional parameters to the binary, such as either config file options
(e.g. "--acpi=false").

/TD;DR

I have researched this for some time and the closest information I can find
are on these pages below.

https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_EFI#Booting_Xen_under_EFI_platform
^- This page lists multiple profiles but does not explain how to select
them.  Just you only pick a single default at the top.

https://xenbits.xen.org/docs/unstable/misc/efi.html
^- This is a good overview of the EFI cfg format.  And we see the
-cfg=file.cfg format as well.

Are there additional CLI options we can provide though as options to the
.efi binary besides the -cfg= parameter?

https://xenbits.xen.org/docs/unstable/misc/xen-command-line.html
^- this one is great to explain the options for the options line.

Are these comment line options valid being passed to the .efi binary as
well?  At the bottom of the efi.html page above, it says options can be
passed to the binary starting with two dashes "--", which makes it sound
like we can pass any of the command line options to the EFI file directly?

".efi binary" in terms of like an UEFI shell, like:

fs0:\> xen-4.11.0.efi -cfg=test.cfg

I'm trying to pass additional parameters to the binary, such as either
config file options (e.g. "--acpi=false").

Thank you!
Eric

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hello!<div><br></div><div>What are all the options; or, ho=
w can I pass additional options to the Xen EFI binary?</div><div><br></div>=
<div><div>=C2=A0 fs0:\&gt; xen-4.11.0.efi -cfg=3Dtest.cfg</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>We can pass a different config file to launch.=C2=A0 However, I&#39=
;m trying to pass additional parameters to the binary, such as either confi=
g file options (e.g. &quot;--acpi=3Dfalse&quot;).=C2=A0=C2=A0</div></div><d=
iv><br></div><div>/TD;DR</div><div><br></div><div>I have researched this fo=
r some time and the closest information I can find are on these pages below=
.</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_=
EFI#Booting_Xen_under_EFI_platform">https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_EF=
I#Booting_Xen_under_EFI_platform</a><br></div><div>^- This page lists multi=
ple profiles but does not explain how to select them.=C2=A0 Just you only p=
ick a single default at the top.</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https:=
//xenbits.xen.org/docs/unstable/misc/efi.html">https://xenbits.xen.org/docs=
/unstable/misc/efi.html</a><br></div><div>^- This is a good overview of the=
 EFI cfg format.=C2=A0 And we see the -cfg=3Dfile.cfg format as well.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Are there additional CLI options we can pro=
vide though as options to the .efi binary besides the -cfg=3D parameter?</d=
iv><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://xenbits.xen.org/docs/unstable/mis=
c/xen-command-line.html">https://xenbits.xen.org/docs/unstable/misc/xen-com=
mand-line.html</a><br></div><div>^- this one is great to explain the option=
s for the options line.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Are these comm=
ent line options valid being passed to the .efi binary as well?=C2=A0 At th=
e bottom of the efi.html page above, it says options can be passed to the b=
inary starting with two dashes &quot;--&quot;, which makes it sound like we=
 can pass any of the command line options to the EFI file directly?</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>&quot;.efi binary&quot; in terms of like an UEFI shell, l=
ike:</div><div><br></div><div>fs0:\&gt; xen-4.11.0.efi -cfg=3Dtest.cfg</div=
><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m trying to pass additional parameters to the bi=
nary, such as either config file options (e.g. &quot;--acpi=3Dfalse&quot;).=
=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you!</div><div>Eric</div></div>

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Hi.


Yes, several years ago we run into the same probelm.

Ubuntu kernel works, but debian not. I cnanot recall now what was the
root of the problem, but there were some updated drivers in the new
kernel that failed to boot anything with fw version x, or something....

We got updating aacraid, etc. the end of a LOOONG story is, that we
"upgraded" the cards with non-raid firmware, and used softraid instead.

Please read:
http://xen.1045712.n5.nabble.com/Problem-booting-dom0-on-scsi-root-disk-a=
daptec-7892-td2566703.html

recommendation: use ubuntu for xen:
http://prymar56.org/xen/ubuntu/xenial/4ax/

or change controller if you keep up using debian, before you waste too
much time.

2018-08-13 11:15 keltez=C3=A9ssel, Christian Schwamborn =C3=ADrta:
> Hi list,
>=20
> I tried to upgrade some servers this weekend, but failed in my attempts=
=2E
> the hardware differs except in one component, they all have a Adaptec
> raid controller of the 7th generation (ASR71605Q to be specific, using
> kernel module accraid).
>=20
> With debian jessie (using xen 4.4, kernel 3.16) everything was fine, bu=
t
> upgrading to stretch (using xen 4.8, kernel 4.9) the kernel module is
> unable to initialize the raid controller.
>=20
> The system seems to be able to init other cards (ie. a pcie Adaptec UW
> SCSI Controller) but initializing the ASR71605Q fails with:
>=20
> aacraid: aac_fib_send - first asynchronous command timed out
> ...
>=20
> or
>=20
> aacraid: Host adapter abort request (0,0,1,0)
> aacraid: Host adapter abort request (0,0,116,0)
> ...
> aacraid: Host adapter abort request (0,0,119,0)
>=20
> on the second system (first is a classic bios machine, second is uefi)
>=20
> Then at some point the system gives up, root device fails, and you end
> up in initramfs.
>=20
> Booting without xen hypervisor works just fine.
>=20
> I tried different kernel versions, the old one (3.16) and a current
> stable 4.17.8 with the same result: No raid controller, when running xe=
n.
>=20
> I also tried xen 4.10: No raid controller.
>=20
> I've found several posts in ubuntu (and centos, I think) mailing lists
> of the last two years, with people having the same issues, but no
> solution except not upgrading. They all have some Adaptec raid
> controller using aacraid and try to upgrade from xen ~4.4 to something
> newer and they all can boot normally without xen. Some posts suggest
> that that the 8th generation is also affected.
>=20
> A more current card (Adaptec SmartRAID 3154-16i using kernel module
> smartpqi) seems to work fine.
>=20
> Anyone seen this behavior before?
>=20
> Thanks
> Chriatian
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     Xen Security Advisory CVE-2018-3620,CVE-2018-3646 / XSA-273

               L1 Terminal Fault speculative side channel

ISSUE DESCRIPTION
=================

In x86 nomenclature, a Terminal Fault is a pagetable walk which aborts
due to the page being not present (e.g. paged out to disk), or because
of reserved bits being set.

Architecturally, such a memory access will result in a page fault
exception, but some processors will speculatively compute the physical
address and issue an L1D lookup.  If data resides in the L1D cache, it
may be forwarded to dependent instructions, and may be leaked via a side
channel.

Furthermore:
  * SGX protections are not applied
  * EPT guest to host translations are not applied
  * SMM protections are not applied

This issue is split into multiple CVEs depending on circumstance.  The
CVEs which apply to Xen are:
  * CVE-2018-3620 - Operating Systems and SMM
  * CVE-2018-3646 - Hypervisors

For more details, see:
  https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/security-center/advisory/intel-sa-00161.html

IMPACT
======

An attacker can potentially read arbitrary host RAM.  This includes data
belonging to Xen, data belonging to other guests, and data belonging to
different security contexts within the same guest.

An attacker could be a guest kernel (which can manipulate the pagetables
directly), or could be guest userspace either directly (e.g. with
mprotect() or similar system call) or indirectly (by gaming the guest
kernel's paging subsystem).

VULNERABLE SYSTEMS
==================

Systems running all versions of Xen are affected.

Only x86 processors are vulnerable.  ARM processors are not known to be
affected.

Only Intel Core based processors (from at least Merom onwards) are
potentially affected.  Other processor designs (Intel Atom/Knights
range), and other manufacturers (AMD) are not known to be affected.

x86 PV guests fall into the CVE-2018-3620 (OS and SMM) category.  x86
HVM and PVH guests fall into the CVE-2018-3646 (Hypervisors) category.

MITIGATION
==========

This issue can be mitigated with a combination of software and firmware
changes.

Switching guests to being HVM with shadow paging enabled (hap=0 in
xl.cfg) is believed to mitigate the vulnerability on systems which don't
have terabytes of RAM.  However the performance impact of shadow paging
in combination with in-guests Meltdown mitigations (KPTI, KVAS, etc)
will most likely make this option prohibitive to use.

RESOLUTION
==========

New microcode, and possibly a new firmware image is required to prevent
SMM data from being leaked with this vulnerability.  Consult your
hardware vendor.

Software updates to Xen (details below) are required to prevent guests
from being able to leak data belonging to Xen or to other guests in the
system.

Guest kernel software updates are required to prevent guest userspace
from being able to leak data belonging to the kernel or other processes
within the same guest.  Consult your OS vendors.

1) For PV guests (which fall into the CVE-2018-3620 - OS/SMM case),
   leakage of data from Xen or other guests can be prevented entirely
   with software changes in Xen.

   If the PV guest tries to write an L1TF-vulnerable PTE (for current
   kernels, very likely when paging data out to disk), shadow paging is
   activated and forced upon the guest.  Alternatively, if shadow paging
   is compiled out, the guest is crashed instead.

   Shadowing comes with a workload-dependent performance hit to the
   guest.  Once the guest kernel software updates have been applied, a
   well behaved guest will not write vulnerable PTEs, and will therefore
   avoid the performance penalty (or crash) entirely.

   This behaviour is active by default for guests on affected hardware
   (controlled by `pv-l1tf=`), but is disabled by default for dom0.
   Dom0's exemption is because of instabilities when being shadowed,
   which are under investigation, but dom0 kernel updates should still
   be taken to mitigate the userspace aspect.

2) For HVM and PVH guests running with Hardware Assisted Paging (which fall
   into the CVE-2018-3646 - Hypervisors case), leakage of data from Xen or
   other guests can only be prevented entirely by disabling
   SMT/Hyper-threading (if available and active in the BIOS), and by using the
   L1D_FLUSH feature (available in the new microcode) on every VMEntry.

   On affected hardware, L1D_FLUSH is enabled by default (controlled by
   `spec-ctrl=[no-]l1d-flush`), subject to microcode availability.

   However, SMT/Hyper-threading is not disabled by default, because Xen does
   not have enough information to choose an appropriate default.  Safety can
   be arranged in a number of ways by the toolstack, including with finer
   granularity than simply on or off.

   Therefore, users are expected to perform a risk assessment of their
   deployment, and explicitly chose a default (`smt=<bool>`).  See the RISK
   ASSESSMENT section below.  Xen will issue a warning at boot on vulnerable
   hardware when no explicit smt choice has been set.

There are ongoing experimentation and development efforts to find lower
overhead mitigations for the HVM case.


We are not supplying separate patches because the changes have many
complicated prerequisites.  To get the fixes, it is necessary to
update to the latest Xen applicable staging-XX branch.

The relevant git commit object ids are as follows:

d757c29ffe2e31b15397e43cd58da88b6318b654 staging-4.11
13e85a6dbc1eeda4f95c0d3afcd205579eab5909 staging-4.10
14f90aaef8d441cbdece5b74829e85e767fb196c staging-4.9
d95b5bb31e6d4361e356f0ff0853b6bb172a8b6a staging-4.8
9b8375a272ad02d8d0c229b3e3e7989e852734d8 staging-4.7
e1b03b03b199bd206c81286b4f51b6a681123eda staging-4.6
aa67b97ed34279c43a43d9ca46727b5746caa92e staging          # xen-unstable

In each case the tip commit is "xl.conf: Add global affinity masks".


RISK ASSESSMENT OF SMT/HYPER-THREADING
======================================

1) If hyper-threading is unavailable, or already disabled in the BIOS, no
   further action is necessary.

2) If you are using exclusively PV or HVM Shadow guests, hyper-threading has
   no impact on security, and is safe to remain enabled.

3) If an HVM guest kernel is trusted (i.e. under host admin control), and has
   been updated to include the OS vendor mitigations, then it is probably safe
   to be scheduled with hyper-threading active.

4) If an HVM guest kernel is untrusted (i.e. not under host admin control), it
   is probably not safe to be scheduled with hyper-threading active.

FINER GRAINED SMT/HYPER-THREADING CONTROL WITH TOOLSTACK SETTINGS
=================================================================

New options (vm.cpumask, vm.hvm.cpumask and vm.pv.cpumask) have been
added in the xl/libxl toolstack to provide global control over CPU
hard affinity settings.  The global masks are applied when a guest is
created or when a vcpu is pinned.

Sketch of how to use the new options:
  1. Livepatch the hypervisor.
  2. Identify all sibling threads and partition them with the new
     options in xl.conf.
  3. For each DomU, run `xl vcpu-pin $DOM all all`, which should
     cause the global masks to be applied to all vcpus of a DomU.
  4. Verify the required affinity has taken effect by running `xl
     vcpu-list`.

The default behaviour of xl is to always apply global masks unless
`--ignore-global-affinity-masks` is specified.  Please refer to
xl.conf(5) for details.

NOTE CONCERNING CVE-2018-3615
=============================

CVE-2018-3615 covers the interaction of L1TF and Intel SGX.  Xen has
no support for enclaves in any currently released version, so no Xen
systems are affected.

NOTE REGARDING LACK OF EMBARGO
==============================

Despite an attempt to organise predisclosure, the discoverers ultimately
did not authorise a predisclosure.
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                    Xen Security Advisory XSA-269
                              version 2

      x86: Incorrect MSR_DEBUGCTL handling lets guests enable BTS

UPDATES IN VERSION 2
====================

Public release.

ISSUE DESCRIPTION
=================

The DEBUGCTL MSR contains several debugging features, some of which virtualise
cleanly, but some do not.  In particular, Branch Trace Store is not
virtualised by the processor, and software has to be careful to configure it
suitably not to lock up the core.  As a result, it must only be available to
fully trusted guests.

Unfortunately, in the case that vPMU is disabled, all value checking was
skipped, allowing the guest to chose any MSR_DEBUGCTL setting it likes.

IMPACT
======

A malicious or buggy guest administrator can lock up the entire host, causing
a Denial of Service.

VULNERABLE SYSTEMS
==================

Xen versions 4.6 and later are vulnerable.

Only systems using Intel CPUs are affected. ARM and AMD systems are
unaffected.

Only x86 HVM or PVH guests can exploit the vulnerability.  x86 PV guests
cannot exploit the vulnerability.

MITIGATION
==========

Running only x86 PV guests avoids the vulnerability.

CREDITS
=======

This issue was discovered by Andrew Cooper of Citrix.

RESOLUTION
==========

Applying the appropriate attached patch resolves this issue.

xsa269.patch           xen-unstable
xsa269-4.11.patch      Xen 4.11
xsa269-4.10.patch      4.10, 4.9
xsa269-4.8.patch       Xen 4.8, 4.7, 4.6

$ sha256sum xsa269*
4733d09bb63523744ca2ee172e2fade0c39082c15d9a746144f279cf1359b723  xsa269.meta
5a5fe36f1f876a5029493e7fa191436fd021929aaba2d820636df17f4ed20113  xsa269.patch
ea11cef818050bca13d4eb89294627c97e4cdb830124f679e77d37a44a370286  xsa269-4.8.patch
45ba1823530f329dd73088b77098e686b32f5daac0bc5177b2afea09f8c3593a  xsa269-4.10.patch
e0ca060311fb9ba3247e2fe65bca4806a131644f8894fd08be374904904b1944  xsa269-4.11.patch
$

DEPLOYMENT DURING EMBARGO
=========================

Deployment of the patches and/or mitigations described above (or
others which are substantially similar) is permitted during the
embargo, even on public-facing systems with untrusted guest users and
administrators.

But: Distribution of updated software is prohibited (except to other
members of the predisclosure list).

Predisclosure list members who wish to deploy significantly different
patches and/or mitigations, please contact the Xen Project Security
Team.


(Note: this during-embargo deployment notice is retained in
post-embargo publicly released Xen Project advisories, even though it
is then no longer applicable.  This is to enable the community to have
oversight of the Xen Project Security Team's decisionmaking.)

For more information about permissible uses of embargoed information,
consult the Xen Project community's agreed Security Policy:
  http://www.xenproject.org/security-policy.html
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Subject: [Xen-users] Xen Security Advisory 271 v2 (CVE-2018-14007) - XAPI
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            Xen Security Advisory CVE-2018-14007 / XSA-271
                               version 2

                     XAPI HTTP directory traversal

UPDATES IN VERSION 2
====================

Public release.

ISSUE DESCRIPTION
=================

XAPI has an unauthenticated HTTP endpoint update/ which exports the
contents of /var/update for other hosts to use.

However, the resolution of . and .. in paths is performed before url
unquoting is performed.  This allows an attacker to traverse out of the
web root.

IMPACT
======

An unauthenticated user with access to the management network can read
arbitrary files from the dom0 filesystem.  This includes the pool secret
/etc/xensource/ptoken which grants the attacker full administrator
access.

VULNERABLE SYSTEMS
==================

All versions of XAPI since v1.13.0 are vulnerable.

If the directory /var/update doesn't exist, the vulnerability is not
exposed.

MITIGATION
==========

In the recommended configuration, the management network is isolated and
isn't reachable from untrusted hosts, or by general network traffic.

CREDITS
=======

This issue was discovered by Ronald Volgers of Computest
https://www.computest.nl/en/

RESOLUTION
==========

Applying the appropriate attached patch resolves this issue.

xsa271-xapi.patch

$ sha256sum xsa271*
ffefb71cd328e0ee5654c135bf9b08f48abedd013f1c68d5589132e2a03a01f8  xsa271-xapi.patch
$

REGENERATION OF POOL SECRET
===========================

There are no known exploits in the wild.  If there is a risk that
credentials could have been stolen, they should be reset.

Most credentials can be reset via normal administrative means, but the
pool secret doesn't have any mechanism to reset.  The following
instructions should be used:

 1) On all pool members, stop Xapi:
    # service xapi stop

 2) On the pool master:
    # rm /etc/xensource/ptoken
    # /opt/xensource/libexec/genptoken -f -o /etc/xensource/ptoken

 3) Copy /etc/xensource/ptoken to all pool slaves

 4) On the pool master, restart the toolstack:
    # xe-toolstack-restart

 5) On all pool slaves, restart the toolstack:
    # xe-toolstack-restart

Once the pool secret has been regenerated, the root password can be
changed with:
    # xe user-password-change

Furthermore, consideration should be given to other credentials, such as
(but not limited to) SSL keys, Storage SAN/iSCSI/NFS details, as well as
secrets contained within VMs disks/snapshots/etc.

DEPLOYMENT DURING EMBARGO
=========================

Deployment of the patches and/or mitigations described above (or
others which are substantially similar) is permitted during the
embargo, even on public-facing systems with untrusted guest users and
administrators.

But: Distribution of updated software is prohibited (except to other
members of the predisclosure list).

Predisclosure list members who wish to deploy significantly different
patches and/or mitigations, please contact the Xen Project Security
Team.


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                    Xen Security Advisory XSA-268
                              version 2

             Use of v2 grant tables may cause crash on ARM

UPDATES IN VERSION 2
====================

Public release.

ISSUE DESCRIPTION
=================

ARM never properly implemented grant table v2, either in the
hypervisor or in Linux.

Unfortunately, an ARM guest can still request v2 grant tables; they
will simply not be properly set up, resulting in subsequent
grant-related hypercalls hitting BUG() checks.

IMPACT
======

An unprivileged guest can cause a BUG() check in the hypervisor,
resulting in a denial-of-service.

VULNERABLE SYSTEMS
==================

Only ARM systems are vulnerable.  All supported versions of Xen are
vulnerable.

MITIGATION
==========

None.

CREDITS
=======

This issue was discovered by 王磊 of Samsung.

RESOLUTION
==========

Applying the appropriate attached patch resolves this issue by
preventing a guest from switching to grant v2.

xsa268.patch           xen-unstable
xsa268-4.11.patch      Xen 4.11.0
xsa268-4.10-?.patch    Xen 4.10.x
xsa268-4.9-?.patch     Xen 4.9.x, Xen 4.8.x
xsa268-4.7-?.patch     Xen 4.7.x
xsa268-4.6-?.patch     Xen 4.6.x

$ sha256sum xsa268*
f336b45676e73f8b102e5dddf78af2d1d288f9a254142a8a8e9949db55e1cc3b  xsa268.meta
ca5f69cb8cfb74fae44a0f39f80ec9ae4d269c4895f36311b50d191be97bbcf0  xsa268.patch
93a68a5b23aedc6adf0aae23303dc8eb2c02dc40a5e1d7eb0a1b497cd66da209  xsa268-4.6-1.patch
5b74afd13d96779a72dc34ba7c63a1735cd267fb9bb643f735ac69b0e6ff54d5  xsa268-4.6-2.patch
820e1018f76ef2828b1cbb33e2966b99f6934a80ab55f11749ff847d375d1b02  xsa268-4.7-1.patch
233f7e69e5fb931d2e5cf03f4407f38ff960c039c9eced957df13d3cc37fa6b1  xsa268-4.7-2.patch
4a0c705f0266185b32daf313e686abc340e2fbb1a1644647500fc405bc180913  xsa268-4.9-1.patch
ce16eaab94cd1e64f9c9127b64da7ebb6a7758eb540fecc3bbcc2dbfbcc4d7e2  xsa268-4.9-2.patch
f413d41fadefe0e275c8bff16a2061bb325f3900b7ccf214a9e97fabf3ee1a89  xsa268-4.10-1.patch
531654f82908c1aa7b0fcea818c82c4b53d4750a697db3353cc05e9e91e5d639  xsa268-4.10-2.patch
baeb6b2c28a9cbe929c9cf34398780002fffe12b928df4d1e5951c0a5b51336a  xsa268-4.11.patch
$

DEPLOYMENT DURING EMBARGO
=========================

Deployment of the patches and/or mitigations described above (or
others which are substantially similar) is permitted during the
embargo, even on public-facing systems with untrusted guest users and
administrators.

But: Distribution of updated software is prohibited (except to other
members of the predisclosure list).

Predisclosure list members who wish to deploy significantly different
patches and/or mitigations, please contact the Xen Project Security
Team.

(Note: this during-embargo deployment notice is retained in
post-embargo publicly released Xen Project advisories, even though it
is then no longer applicable.  This is to enable the community to have
oversight of the Xen Project Security Team's decisionmaking.)

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                    Xen Security Advisory XSA-270
                              version 2

           Linux netback driver OOB access in hash handling

UPDATES IN VERSION 2
====================

Public release.

ISSUE DESCRIPTION
=================

Linux's netback driver allows frontends to control mapping of requests
to request queues.  When processing a request to set or change this
mapping, some input validation was missing or flawed.

IMPACT
======

A malicious or buggy frontend may cause the (usually privileged)
backend to make out of bounds memory accesses, potentially resulting
in one or more of privilege escalation, Denial of Service (DoS), or
information leaks.

VULNERABLE SYSTEMS
==================

Linux kernel versions from 4.7 onwards are affected.

MITIGATION
==========

There is no known mitigation.

CREDITS
=======

This issue was discovered by Felix Wilhelm of Google Project Zero.

RESOLUTION
==========

Applying the attached patch resolves this issue.

xsa270.patch           Linux 4.7 ... 4.17

$ sha256sum xsa270*
392868c37c1fe0d16c36086208fd0fc045c1baf8ab9b207995bce72681cb8c54  xsa270.patch
$

DEPLOYMENT DURING EMBARGO
=========================

Deployment of the patches and/or mitigations described above (or
others which are substantially similar) is permitted during the
embargo, even on public-facing systems with untrusted guest users and
administrators.

But: Distribution of updated software is prohibited (except to other
members of the predisclosure list).

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patches and/or mitigations, please contact the Xen Project Security
Team.

(Note: this during-embargo deployment notice is retained in
post-embargo publicly released Xen Project advisories, even though it
is then no longer applicable.  This is to enable the community to have
oversight of the Xen Project Security Team's decisionmaking.)

For more information about permissible uses of embargoed information,
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                    Xen Security Advisory XSA-272
                              version 2

               oxenstored does not apply quota-maxentity

UPDATES IN VERSION 2
====================

Ammend patch to reference XSA-272 in the commit message.

Public release.

ISSUE DESCRIPTION
=================

The logic in oxenstored for handling writes depended on the order of
evaluation of expressions making up a tuple.

As indicated in section 7.7.3 "Operations on data structures" of the
OCaml manual:

  http://caml.inria.fr/pub/docs/manual-ocaml/expr.html

the order of evaluation of subexpressions is not specified.  In
practice, different implementations behave differently.

IMPACT
======

oxenstored may not enforce the configured quota-maxentity.

This allows a malicious or buggy guest to write as many xenstore entries
as it wishes, causing unbounded memory usage in oxenstored.  This can
lead to a system-wide DoS.

VULNERABLE SYSTEMS
==================

Xen 4.1 and later are potentially vulnerable.

Only systems using the OCaml xenstored implementation are potentially
vulnerable.  Systems using the C xenstored implementation are not
vulnerable.

Whether the compiled oxenstored binary is vulnerable depends on which
compiler was used.  OCaml can be compiled either as bytecode (with
ocamlc) or as a native binary (with ocamlopt).

The following OCaml program demonstrates the issue, and identifies
whether the resulting oxenstored binary will skip the quota enforcement.

  $ cat order.ml
  let check () =
    let flag = ref false in
    let update _ = flag := true; () in
    List.iter update [1;2;3], !flag

  let main () =
    let _, flag = check () in
    if flag then
    print_endline "This code is not vulnerable!"
    else
    print_endline "This code is vulnerable!"

  let () = main ()

  $ ocamlc order.ml -o order.bytecode
  $ ./order.bytecode
  This code is vulnerable!
  $ ocamlopt order.ml -o order.native
  $ ./order.native
  This code is not vulnerable!

To confirm whether an OCaml binary is bytecode or native, use file.

  $ file order.bytecode
  order.bytecode: a /usr/bin/ocamlrun script executable (binary data)
  $ file order.native
  order.native: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, ...

NOTE: These results are applicable to OCaml 4.01.0-5 as distributed in
Debian Jessie.  These results are not representative of other versions
of OCaml, or of other OS distributions.

MITIGATION
==========

There are no mitigations available.

CREDITS
=======

This issue was discovered by Christian Lindig of Citrix.

RESOLUTION
==========

Applying the appropriate attached patch resolves this issue.

xsa272.patch           All versions of Xen

$ sha256sum xsa272*
0da953ca48d0cf0688ecff6a074304a9d2217871809a76ef26b9addeb66ecb3e  xsa272.meta
6e0359d89bf65794f16d39198cc90f5c3137bce4eb850e54625ab00e2c568c2c  xsa272.patch
$

DEPLOYMENT DURING EMBARGO
=========================

Deployment of the patches and/or mitigations described above (or
others which are substantially similar) is permitted during the
embargo, even on public-facing systems with untrusted guest users and
administrators.

But: Distribution of updated software is prohibited (except to other
members of the predisclosure list).

Predisclosure list members who wish to deploy significantly different
patches and/or mitigations, please contact the Xen Project Security
Team.


(Note: this during-embargo deployment notice is retained in
post-embargo publicly released Xen Project advisories, even though it
is then no longer applicable.  This is to enable the community to have
oversight of the Xen Project Security Team's decisionmaking.)

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256

            Xen Security Advisory CVE-2018-14678 / XSA-274
                               version 3

      Linux: Uninitialized state in x86 PV failsafe callback path

UPDATES IN VERSION 3
====================

Fix spelling in CREDITS.

ISSUE DESCRIPTION
=================

Linux has a `failsafe` callback, invoked by Xen under certain
conditions.  Normally in this failsafe callback, error_entry is paired
with error_exit; and error_entry uses %ebx to communicate to
error_exit whether to use the user or kernel return path.

Unfortunately, on 64-bit PV Xen on x86, error_exit is called without
error_entry being called first, leaving %ebx with an invalid value.

IMPACT
======

A rogue user-space program could crash a guest kernel.  Privilege
escalation cannot be ruled out.

VULNERABLE SYSTEMS
==================

Only 64-bit x86 PV Linux systems are vulnerable.

All versions of Linux are vulnerable.

MITIGATION
==========

Switching to HVM or PVH guests will mitigate this issue.

CREDITS
=======

This issue was discovered by M. Vefa Bicakci, and recognized as a
security issue by Andy Lutomirski.

RESOLUTION
==========

Applying the appropriate attached patch resolves this issue.

NB this patch has not been accepted into Linux upstream yet.  An
updated advisory will be sent if the fix upstreamed looks
significantly different.

xsa274-linux-4.17.patch           Linux 4.17

$ sha256sum xsa274*
0c30cb13d1d573f446c8cb8d4824ffad8ef9149a7589a19ef9bcc83c07bddcf5  xsa274-linux-4.17.patch
$

NOTE ON THE LACK OF EMBARGO
===========================

The patch for this issue was published on linux-kernel without being
first reported to the XenProject Security Team.

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On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:17 PM, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> wrote:

> In the Xen x86 community call we have been discussing whether anyone
> really is depending on 32-bit PV guests. We'd like to evaluate whether
> anyone would see problems with:
>
> - deprecating 32-bit PV guest support in Xen, meaning that we'd
>   eventually switch to support 32-bit PV guests only via PV-shim from
>   Xen 4.12 or 4.13
>
> - dropping 32-bit PV support from upstream Linux kernel, resulting in
>   current 32-bit PV guests no longer being able to upgrade to the newest
>   kernel version any longer
>
> And related to that:
>
> - is there any Linux distribution still shipping 32-bit PV-capable
>   systems?
>
> - what about BSD? Is 32-bit PV support important there?
>


Juergen - just to be very clear about the scope here:
* would this proposal affect the ability to use a 32-bit dom0?
* is this proposal to affect x86 only or also for ARM?

Christopher

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> wrote:

> On 16/08/18 08:51, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>>> On 16.08.18 at 08:32, <christopher.w.clark@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:17 PM, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In the Xen x86 community call we have been discussing whether anyone
> >>> really is depending on 32-bit PV guests. We'd like to evaluate whether
> >>> anyone would see problems with:
> >>>
> >>> - deprecating 32-bit PV guest support in Xen, meaning that we'd
> >>>   eventually switch to support 32-bit PV guests only via PV-shim from
> >>>   Xen 4.12 or 4.13
> >>>
> >>> - dropping 32-bit PV support from upstream Linux kernel, resulting in
> >>>   current 32-bit PV guests no longer being able to upgrade to the
> newest
> >>>   kernel version any longer
> >>>
> >>> And related to that:
> >>>
> >>> - is there any Linux distribution still shipping 32-bit PV-capable
> >>>   systems?
> >>>
> >>> - what about BSD? Is 32-bit PV support important there?
> >>
> >> Juergen - just to be very clear about the scope here:
> >> * would this proposal affect the ability to use a 32-bit dom0?
> >
> > If the Dom0 is to be PV - yes, of course. For the time being there's
> > no complete PVH Dom0 support, so if 32-bit is needed here, PV is
> > for now indeed the only option.
>

ack. I asked because it's not necessarily obvious to all that dom0 is
included in the term "guest", and it widens the consequences of this change.


>
> And to be more precise: the first step would be to remove 32-bit PV
> support from upstream Linux kernel. This would result in the loss of
> the ability to use a _new_ Linux (e.g. >= 4.20 / 5.0) as a 32-bit dom0.
> A 32-bit dom0 using a kernel <= 4.19 would still work until we remove
> 32-bit PV support from the hypervisor (which we wouldn't do before full
> support of PVH dom0, I guess).
>

That makes sense.


>
> Is there a special reason you want to use a 32-bit dom0?
>

In short, no.
OpenXT currently uses a 32-bit PV dom0, but work is already under way to
migrate to 64-bit. I think your proposal is justified and good.

Christopher

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Juergen Gross <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:jgross@suse.com" target=3D"_blank">jgross@suse.com</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On 16/08/=
18 08:51, Jan Beulich wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 16.08.18 at 08:32, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:christopher.w.=
clark@gmail.com">christopher.w.clark@gmail.com</a><wbr>&gt; wrote:<br>
</span><span class=3D"">&gt;&gt; On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:17 PM, Juergen =
Gross &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jgross@suse.com">jgross@suse.com</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; In the Xen x86 community call we have been discussing whether =
anyone<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; really is depending on 32-bit PV guests. We&#39;d like to eval=
uate whether<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; anyone would see problems with:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; - deprecating 32-bit PV guest support in Xen, meaning that we&=
#39;d<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0eventually switch to support 32-bit PV guests only=
 via PV-shim from<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0Xen 4.12 or 4.13<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; - dropping 32-bit PV support from upstream Linux kernel, resul=
ting in<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0current 32-bit PV guests no longer being able to u=
pgrade to the newest<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0kernel version any longer<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; And related to that:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; - is there any Linux distribution still shipping 32-bit PV-cap=
able<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0systems?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; - what about BSD? Is 32-bit PV support important there?<br>&gt=
;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Juergen - just to be very clear about the scope here:<br>
&gt;&gt; * would this proposal affect the ability to use a 32-bit dom0?<br>
&gt; <br>
</span><span class=3D"">&gt; If the Dom0 is to be PV - yes, of course. For =
the time being there&#39;s<br>
&gt; no complete PVH Dom0 support, so if 32-bit is needed here, PV is<br>
&gt; for now indeed the only option.<br></span></blockquote><div><br></div>=
<div>ack. I asked because it&#39;s not necessarily obvious to all that dom0=
 is included in the term &quot;guest&quot;, and it widens the consequences =
of this change.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span =
class=3D"">
<br>
</span>And to be more precise: the first step would be to remove 32-bit PV<=
br>
support from upstream Linux kernel. This would result in the loss of<br>
the ability to use a _new_ Linux (e.g. &gt;=3D 4.20 / 5.0) as a 32-bit dom0=
.<br>
A 32-bit dom0 using a kernel &lt;=3D 4.19 would still work until we remove<=
br>
32-bit PV support from the hypervisor (which we wouldn&#39;t do before full=
<br>
support of PVH dom0, I guess).<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That mak=
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<br>
Is there a special reason you want to use a 32-bit dom0?<br></blockquote><d=
iv><br></div><div>In short, no.</div><div>OpenXT currently uses a 32-bit PV=
 dom0, but work is already under way to migrate to 64-bit. I think your pro=
posal is justified and good.</div><div><br></div><div>Christopher</div><div=
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Hi Roger,


no i just can hard restart the server.

Atm. i have a new Installation on the Server, so i don't have logs.

I tried different Linux-Distributions with all i run into strange
errors, ubuntu was the only one wo has run.

And only with the kernel version 4.15, to last upgrade to 4.17 has the
same Problem.

I Use a

Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-AB 350 Gaming 3

CPU: AMD Ryzen 1800X 13.03.2018

RAM:=C2=A0 Gskill F4-3200C16D 2x 32 GB

Data: WD 2TB Gold Datacenter =E2=80=93

RAID-Controller: ARC =E2=80=93 1200


I also have started a test to run the Setup without Raid, there i get
also couple of Problems...


The last month's i wasted so many time with different installations -.-

it would be cool if the Community will create a Discord Group etc. on
IRC i don't have get a response, it seems like everybody is afk.


Regards,

Michael





Am 17.08.2018 um 09:02 schrieb Roger Pau Monn=C3=A9:
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:16:26PM +0200, Michael Stiegler wrote:
>> Hi Roger,
>>
>> I don=E2=80=99t have any output and can=E2=80=99t access the console. =

> Does this mean that the console is not responding to key presses or
> that you don't have a serial attached?
>
> Roger.


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    <p>no i just can hard restart the server.</p>
    <p>Atm. i have a new Installation on the Server, so i don't have
      logs.</p>
    <p>I tried different Linux-Distributions with all i run into strange
      errors, ubuntu was the only one wo has run.</p>
    <p>And only with the kernel version 4.15, to last upgrade to 4.17
      has the same Problem.</p>
    <p>I Use a<br>
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      <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt">Mainboard:
        Gigabyte GA-AB 350
        Gaming 3 <br>
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      <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt">CPU: AMD Ryzen
        1800X 13.03.2018 <br>
      </p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt">RAM:<span
          style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=C2=A0 </span>Gskill F4-3200C16D 2x =
32 GB</p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt">Data: WD 2TB Go=
ld
        Datacenter =E2=80=93 <br>
      </p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt">RAID-Controller=
:
        ARC =E2=80=93 1200 <br>
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      <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt"><br>
      </p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt">I also have
        started a test to run the Setup without Raid, there i get also
        couple of Problems...</p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt"><br>
      </p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt">The last month'=
s i
        wasted so many time with different installations -.-</p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt"><span
          class=3D"tlid-translation translation"><span title=3D"" class=3D=
"">it
            would be cool if the Community will create a Discord Group
            etc. on IRC i don't have get a response, it seems like
            everybody is afk. <br>
          </span></span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt"><span
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""><br>
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      <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt"><span
          class=3D"tlid-translation translation"><span title=3D"" class=3D=
"">Regards,</span></span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt"><span
          class=3D"tlid-translation translation"><span title=3D"" class=3D=
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Am 17.08.2018 um 09:02 schrieb Roger
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      <pre wrap=3D"">On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:16:26PM +0200, Michael St=
iegler wrote:
</pre>
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        <pre wrap=3D"">Hi Roger,

I don=E2=80=99t have any output and can=E2=80=99t access the console.=20
</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre wrap=3D"">
Does this mean that the console is not responding to key presses or
that you don't have a serial attached?

Roger.
</pre>
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On Sun, Aug 19, 2018, 8:51 AM Liwei <xieliwei@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi list,
>     We recently updated our system and started experiencing random
> hangs. It happens, on average, once every 1.5 days (sometimes taking 2
> days to occur, other times happening multiple times a day, somewhat
> proportional to IO load).
>
>     Before troubling the developers too much, I'd like to collect more
> information, however, the problem is the hangs occur without any
> symptoms/crashes/panics. I've booted xen and dom0 with:
> "loglvl=all guest_loglvl=all" and "loglevel=10 debug initcall_debug"
> respectively.
>
>     When the hang occurs, all domUs and dom0 just stop responding to
> key presses, networking and there is no IO activity. Nothing gets
> generated in the console/logs (no symptoms either, no logs out of the
> ordinary). Even hitting ctrl+a multiple times in the console does
> nothing (indicating xen is dead too). On the video console, we just
> have a blinking cursor after the last console log (though my
> understanding is that the cursor blink might be generated by the video
> card rather than any indication that at least something is still
> running). If the hardware WDT is on, the watchdog eventually bites and
> reboots the system.
>
>     Although I believe it isn't related (since dom0 stalls too, and
> we're looking at a completely stalled system rather than just domUs
> having issues with disk IO), I added "gnttab_max_frames=256" to the
> xen boot arguments anyway. Didn't seem to change anything.
>
>     Then, grasping at straws, I turned off HWPM in BIOS, which we had
> to do so on another machine hosting VMware ESX, obviously didn't seem
> to change anything either.
>
>     At this point, I'd like to know what is the best way to approach
> this? Can I enable further levels of debugging so that I can even
> begin to look towards a certain culprit? Is there a good way to
> determine if it may be the hardware?
>
>     I've tried running the same kernel without xen and just simulating
> heavy IO on the disk array without issues, which leans me towards xen
> being part of the equation. But then again, doing random file
> read/writes isn't a good simulation of the type of workload the domUs
> put on the server.
>
>     OS: Debian Buster
>     Kernel: 4.17.0-1-amd64
>     Xen: 4.8.4-pre (Debian 4.8.3+xsa267+shim4.10.1+xsa267-1+deb9u9)
>     CPU: Xeon E5-2699 v4
>     RAM: Samsung 96GB ECC Registered
>     MB: Supermicro X10SRi-F
>
>     In case it is relevant, since it might be IO related...
>     Net: Chelsio T520-CR (2 x XGB links, shared to domU using VF)
>     RAID: LSI SAS3224 with 10 SAS3 drives
>
> Warm regards,
> Liwei
>
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In my experience, as a non-Xen user on nearly the identical motherboard
(X10SRA), I would suggest the motherboard.

I've purchased 4 of these boards and run various Windows and Linux
kernels.  They all have different CPUs (some Retail, some Engineering
Samples), different ECC ram and different storage setups (some using
onboard SATA, some using on LSI cards, etc).

They all, every single one of them, experience random hard-lockups just
like you describe: becomes completely unresponsive, screen freezes, etc.

I don't run Xen on any of them.  I've swapped all sorts of hardware, tried
several beta BIOS versions from support, RMA'd 3 of them...  They all
continued to lockup.

This went on for about two years until I had enough.  I swapped all boards
out for the X10DLA, using the exact same components, and I have had zero
issues since.

Again, this is just one user's experience - and I just happened to be on
the Xen mailing list and saw this.

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Aug 19, 2018, 8=
:51 AM Liwei &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:xieliwei@gmail.com">xieliwei@gmail.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi list,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 We recently updated our system and started experiencing rando=
m<br>
hangs. It happens, on average, once every 1.5 days (sometimes taking 2<br>
days to occur, other times happening multiple times a day, somewhat<br>
proportional to IO load).<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Before troubling the developers too much, I&#39;d like to col=
lect more<br>
information, however, the problem is the hangs occur without any<br>
symptoms/crashes/panics. I&#39;ve booted xen and dom0 with:<br>
&quot;loglvl=3Dall guest_loglvl=3Dall&quot; and &quot;loglevel=3D10 debug i=
nitcall_debug&quot;<br>
respectively.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 When the hang occurs, all domUs and dom0 just stop responding=
 to<br>
key presses, networking and there is no IO activity. Nothing gets<br>
generated in the console/logs (no symptoms either, no logs out of the<br>
ordinary). Even hitting ctrl+a multiple times in the console does<br>
nothing (indicating xen is dead too). On the video console, we just<br>
have a blinking cursor after the last console log (though my<br>
understanding is that the cursor blink might be generated by the video<br>
card rather than any indication that at least something is still<br>
running). If the hardware WDT is on, the watchdog eventually bites and<br>
reboots the system.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Although I believe it isn&#39;t related (since dom0 stalls to=
o, and<br>
we&#39;re looking at a completely stalled system rather than just domUs<br>
having issues with disk IO), I added &quot;gnttab_max_frames=3D256&quot; to=
 the<br>
xen boot arguments anyway. Didn&#39;t seem to change anything.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Then, grasping at straws, I turned off HWPM in BIOS, which we=
 had<br>
to do so on another machine hosting VMware ESX, obviously didn&#39;t seem<b=
r>
to change anything either.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 At this point, I&#39;d like to know what is the best way to a=
pproach<br>
this? Can I enable further levels of debugging so that I can even<br>
begin to look towards a certain culprit? Is there a good way to<br>
determine if it may be the hardware?<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I&#39;ve tried running the same kernel without xen and just s=
imulating<br>
heavy IO on the disk array without issues, which leans me towards xen<br>
being part of the equation. But then again, doing random file<br>
read/writes isn&#39;t a good simulation of the type of workload the domUs<b=
r>
put on the server.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OS: Debian Buster<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Kernel: 4.17.0-1-amd64<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Xen: 4.8.4-pre (Debian 4.8.3+xsa267+shim4.10.1+xsa267-1+deb9u=
9)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 CPU: Xeon E5-2699 v4<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 RAM: Samsung 96GB ECC Registered<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 MB: Supermicro X10SRi-F<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 In case it is relevant, since it might be IO related...<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Net: Chelsio T520-CR (2 x XGB links, shared to domU using VF)=
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 RAID: LSI SAS3224 with 10 SAS3 drives<br>
<br>
Warm regards,<br>
Liwei<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Xen-users mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:Xen-users@lists.xenproject.org" target=3D"_blank">Xen-use=
rs@lists.xenproject.org</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://lists.xenproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xen-users" rel=3D"=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.xenproject.org/mailman/listinfo=
/xen-users</a></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>In my experience, as a=
 non-Xen user on nearly the identical motherboard (X10SRA), I would suggest=
 the motherboard.</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve purchased 4 of these bo=
ards and run various Windows and Linux kernels.=C2=A0 They all have differe=
nt CPUs (some Retail, some Engineering Samples), different ECC ram and diff=
erent storage setups (some using onboard SATA, some using on LSI cards, etc=
).</div><div><br></div><div>They all, every single one of them, experience =
random hard-lockups just like you describe: becomes completely unresponsive=
, screen freezes, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t run Xen on any =
of them.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve swapped all sorts of hardware, tried several beta B=
IOS versions from support, RMA&#39;d 3 of them...=C2=A0 They all continued =
to lockup.</div><div><br></div><div>This went on for about two years until =
I had enough.=C2=A0 I swapped all boards out for the X10DLA, using the exac=
t same components, and I have had zero issues since.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Again, this is just one user&#39;s experience - and I just happened to b=
e on the Xen mailing list and saw this.</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"></d=
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Systems that get overheated also exhibit  this kind of behavior. I was
experiencing it once with a epyc mb that was crammed into a 1U case.

s=C3=B6n 19 aug. 2018 kl. 15:12 skrev Eric Duncan <eduncan911@gmail.com>:

>
>
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018, 8:51 AM Liwei <xieliwei@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi list,
>>     We recently updated our system and started experiencing random
>> hangs. It happens, on average, once every 1.5 days (sometimes taking 2
>> days to occur, other times happening multiple times a day, somewhat
>> proportional to IO load).
>>
>>     Before troubling the developers too much, I'd like to collect more
>> information, however, the problem is the hangs occur without any
>> symptoms/crashes/panics. I've booted xen and dom0 with:
>> "loglvl=3Dall guest_loglvl=3Dall" and "loglevel=3D10 debug initcall_debu=
g"
>> respectively.
>>
>>     When the hang occurs, all domUs and dom0 just stop responding to
>> key presses, networking and there is no IO activity. Nothing gets
>> generated in the console/logs (no symptoms either, no logs out of the
>> ordinary). Even hitting ctrl+a multiple times in the console does
>> nothing (indicating xen is dead too). On the video console, we just
>> have a blinking cursor after the last console log (though my
>> understanding is that the cursor blink might be generated by the video
>> card rather than any indication that at least something is still
>> running). If the hardware WDT is on, the watchdog eventually bites and
>> reboots the system.
>>
>>     Although I believe it isn't related (since dom0 stalls too, and
>> we're looking at a completely stalled system rather than just domUs
>> having issues with disk IO), I added "gnttab_max_frames=3D256" to the
>> xen boot arguments anyway. Didn't seem to change anything.
>>
>>     Then, grasping at straws, I turned off HWPM in BIOS, which we had
>> to do so on another machine hosting VMware ESX, obviously didn't seem
>> to change anything either.
>>
>>     At this point, I'd like to know what is the best way to approach
>> this? Can I enable further levels of debugging so that I can even
>> begin to look towards a certain culprit? Is there a good way to
>> determine if it may be the hardware?
>>
>>     I've tried running the same kernel without xen and just simulating
>> heavy IO on the disk array without issues, which leans me towards xen
>> being part of the equation. But then again, doing random file
>> read/writes isn't a good simulation of the type of workload the domUs
>> put on the server.
>>
>>     OS: Debian Buster
>>     Kernel: 4.17.0-1-amd64
>>     Xen: 4.8.4-pre (Debian 4.8.3+xsa267+shim4.10.1+xsa267-1+deb9u9)
>>     CPU: Xeon E5-2699 v4
>>     RAM: Samsung 96GB ECC Registered
>>     MB: Supermicro X10SRi-F
>>
>>     In case it is relevant, since it might be IO related...
>>     Net: Chelsio T520-CR (2 x XGB links, shared to domU using VF)
>>     RAID: LSI SAS3224 with 10 SAS3 drives
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Liwei
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Xen-users mailing list
>> Xen-users@lists.xenproject.org
>> https://lists.xenproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xen-users
>
>
> In my experience, as a non-Xen user on nearly the identical motherboard
> (X10SRA), I would suggest the motherboard.
>
> I've purchased 4 of these boards and run various Windows and Linux
> kernels.  They all have different CPUs (some Retail, some Engineering
> Samples), different ECC ram and different storage setups (some using
> onboard SATA, some using on LSI cards, etc).
>
> They all, every single one of them, experience random hard-lockups just
> like you describe: becomes completely unresponsive, screen freezes, etc.
>
> I don't run Xen on any of them.  I've swapped all sorts of hardware, trie=
d
> several beta BIOS versions from support, RMA'd 3 of them...  They all
> continued to lockup.
>
> This went on for about two years until I had enough.  I swapped all board=
s
> out for the X10DLA, using the exact same components, and I have had zero
> issues since.
>
> Again, this is just one user's experience - and I just happened to be on
> the Xen mailing list and saw this.
> _______________________________________________
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">Systems that get overheated also exhibit =C2=A0this =
kind of behavior. I was experiencing it once with a epyc mb that was cramme=
d into a 1U case.</div></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">s=C3=B6n 19 aug. 2018 kl. 15:12 skrev Eric Duncan &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:eduncan911@gmail.com">eduncan911@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
On Sun, Aug 19, 2018, 8:51 AM Liwei &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:xieliwei@gmail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">xieliwei@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex">Hi list,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 We recently updated our system and started experiencing rando=
m<br>
hangs. It happens, on average, once every 1.5 days (sometimes taking 2<br>
days to occur, other times happening multiple times a day, somewhat<br>
proportional to IO load).<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Before troubling the developers too much, I&#39;d like to col=
lect more<br>
information, however, the problem is the hangs occur without any<br>
symptoms/crashes/panics. I&#39;ve booted xen and dom0 with:<br>
&quot;loglvl=3Dall guest_loglvl=3Dall&quot; and &quot;loglevel=3D10 debug i=
nitcall_debug&quot;<br>
respectively.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 When the hang occurs, all domUs and dom0 just stop responding=
 to<br>
key presses, networking and there is no IO activity. Nothing gets<br>
generated in the console/logs (no symptoms either, no logs out of the<br>
ordinary). Even hitting ctrl+a multiple times in the console does<br>
nothing (indicating xen is dead too). On the video console, we just<br>
have a blinking cursor after the last console log (though my<br>
understanding is that the cursor blink might be generated by the video<br>
card rather than any indication that at least something is still<br>
running). If the hardware WDT is on, the watchdog eventually bites and<br>
reboots the system.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Although I believe it isn&#39;t related (since dom0 stalls to=
o, and<br>
we&#39;re looking at a completely stalled system rather than just domUs<br>
having issues with disk IO), I added &quot;gnttab_max_frames=3D256&quot; to=
 the<br>
xen boot arguments anyway. Didn&#39;t seem to change anything.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Then, grasping at straws, I turned off HWPM in BIOS, which we=
 had<br>
to do so on another machine hosting VMware ESX, obviously didn&#39;t seem<b=
r>
to change anything either.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 At this point, I&#39;d like to know what is the best way to a=
pproach<br>
this? Can I enable further levels of debugging so that I can even<br>
begin to look towards a certain culprit? Is there a good way to<br>
determine if it may be the hardware?<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I&#39;ve tried running the same kernel without xen and just s=
imulating<br>
heavy IO on the disk array without issues, which leans me towards xen<br>
being part of the equation. But then again, doing random file<br>
read/writes isn&#39;t a good simulation of the type of workload the domUs<b=
r>
put on the server.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OS: Debian Buster<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Kernel: 4.17.0-1-amd64<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Xen: 4.8.4-pre (Debian 4.8.3+xsa267+shim4.10.1+xsa267-1+deb9u=
9)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 CPU: Xeon E5-2699 v4<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 RAM: Samsung 96GB ECC Registered<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 MB: Supermicro X10SRi-F<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 In case it is relevant, since it might be IO related...<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Net: Chelsio T520-CR (2 x XGB links, shared to domU using VF)=
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 RAID: LSI SAS3224 with 10 SAS3 drives<br>
<br>
Warm regards,<br>
Liwei<br>
<br>
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<a href=3D"mailto:Xen-users@lists.xenproject.org" target=3D"_blank">Xen-use=
rs@lists.xenproject.org</a><br>
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noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.xenproject.org/mailman/listinfo=
/xen-users</a></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>In my experience, as a=
 non-Xen user on nearly the identical motherboard (X10SRA), I would suggest=
 the motherboard.</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve purchased 4 of these bo=
ards and run various Windows and Linux kernels.=C2=A0 They all have differe=
nt CPUs (some Retail, some Engineering Samples), different ECC ram and diff=
erent storage setups (some using onboard SATA, some using on LSI cards, etc=
).</div><div><br></div><div>They all, every single one of them, experience =
random hard-lockups just like you describe: becomes completely unresponsive=
, screen freezes, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t run Xen on any =
of them.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve swapped all sorts of hardware, tried several beta B=
IOS versions from support, RMA&#39;d 3 of them...=C2=A0 They all continued =
to lockup.</div><div><br></div><div>This went on for about two years until =
I had enough.=C2=A0 I swapped all boards out for the X10DLA, using the exac=
t same components, and I have had zero issues since.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Again, this is just one user&#39;s experience - and I just happened to b=
e on the Xen mailing list and saw this.</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"></d=
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            Xen Security Advisory CVE-2018-15468 / XSA-269
                              version 3

      x86: Incorrect MSR_DEBUGCTL handling lets guests enable BTS

UPDATES IN VERSION 3
====================

CVE assigned.

ISSUE DESCRIPTION
=================

The DEBUGCTL MSR contains several debugging features, some of which virtualise
cleanly, but some do not.  In particular, Branch Trace Store is not
virtualised by the processor, and software has to be careful to configure it
suitably not to lock up the core.  As a result, it must only be available to
fully trusted guests.

Unfortunately, in the case that vPMU is disabled, all value checking was
skipped, allowing the guest to chose any MSR_DEBUGCTL setting it likes.

IMPACT
======

A malicious or buggy guest administrator can lock up the entire host, causing
a Denial of Service.

VULNERABLE SYSTEMS
==================

Xen versions 4.6 and later are vulnerable.

Only systems using Intel CPUs are affected. ARM and AMD systems are
unaffected.

Only x86 HVM or PVH guests can exploit the vulnerability.  x86 PV guests
cannot exploit the vulnerability.

MITIGATION
==========

Running only x86 PV guests avoids the vulnerability.

CREDITS
=======

This issue was discovered by Andrew Cooper of Citrix.

RESOLUTION
==========

Applying the appropriate attached patch resolves this issue.

xsa269.patch           xen-unstable
xsa269-4.11.patch      Xen 4.11
xsa269-4.10.patch      4.10, 4.9
xsa269-4.8.patch       Xen 4.8, 4.7, 4.6

$ sha256sum xsa269*
4733d09bb63523744ca2ee172e2fade0c39082c15d9a746144f279cf1359b723  xsa269.meta
5a5fe36f1f876a5029493e7fa191436fd021929aaba2d820636df17f4ed20113  xsa269.patch
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e0ca060311fb9ba3247e2fe65bca4806a131644f8894fd08be374904904b1944  xsa269-4.11.patch
$

DEPLOYMENT DURING EMBARGO
=========================

Deployment of the patches and/or mitigations described above (or
others which are substantially similar) is permitted during the
embargo, even on public-facing systems with untrusted guest users and
administrators.

But: Distribution of updated software is prohibited (except to other
members of the predisclosure list).

Predisclosure list members who wish to deploy significantly different
patches and/or mitigations, please contact the Xen Project Security
Team.


(Note: this during-embargo deployment notice is retained in
post-embargo publicly released Xen Project advisories, even though it
is then no longer applicable.  This is to enable the community to have
oversight of the Xen Project Security Team's decisionmaking.)

For more information about permissible uses of embargoed information,
consult the Xen Project community's agreed Security Policy:
  http://www.xenproject.org/security-policy.html
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256

            Xen Security Advisory CVE-2018-15471 / XSA-270
                              version 3

           Linux netback driver OOB access in hash handling

UPDATES IN VERSION 3
====================

CVE assigned.

ISSUE DESCRIPTION
=================

Linux's netback driver allows frontends to control mapping of requests
to request queues.  When processing a request to set or change this
mapping, some input validation was missing or flawed.

IMPACT
======

A malicious or buggy frontend may cause the (usually privileged)
backend to make out of bounds memory accesses, potentially resulting
in one or more of privilege escalation, Denial of Service (DoS), or
information leaks.

VULNERABLE SYSTEMS
==================

Linux kernel versions from 4.7 onwards are affected.

MITIGATION
==========

There is no known mitigation.

CREDITS
=======

This issue was discovered by Felix Wilhelm of Google Project Zero.

RESOLUTION
==========

Applying the attached patch resolves this issue.

xsa270.patch           Linux 4.7 ... 4.17

$ sha256sum xsa270*
392868c37c1fe0d16c36086208fd0fc045c1baf8ab9b207995bce72681cb8c54  xsa270.patch
$

DEPLOYMENT DURING EMBARGO
=========================

Deployment of the patches and/or mitigations described above (or
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            Xen Security Advisory CVE-2018-15469 / XSA-268
                              version 3

             Use of v2 grant tables may cause crash on ARM

UPDATES IN VERSION 3
====================

CVE assigned.

ISSUE DESCRIPTION
=================

ARM never properly implemented grant table v2, either in the
hypervisor or in Linux.

Unfortunately, an ARM guest can still request v2 grant tables; they
will simply not be properly set up, resulting in subsequent
grant-related hypercalls hitting BUG() checks.

IMPACT
======

An unprivileged guest can cause a BUG() check in the hypervisor,
resulting in a denial-of-service.

VULNERABLE SYSTEMS
==================

Only ARM systems are vulnerable.  All supported versions of Xen are
vulnerable.

MITIGATION
==========

None.

CREDITS
=======

This issue was discovered by 王磊 of Samsung.

RESOLUTION
==========

Applying the appropriate attached patch resolves this issue by
preventing a guest from switching to grant v2.

xsa268.patch           xen-unstable
xsa268-4.11.patch      Xen 4.11.0
xsa268-4.10-?.patch    Xen 4.10.x
xsa268-4.9-?.patch     Xen 4.9.x, Xen 4.8.x
xsa268-4.7-?.patch     Xen 4.7.x
xsa268-4.6-?.patch     Xen 4.6.x

$ sha256sum xsa268*
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ca5f69cb8cfb74fae44a0f39f80ec9ae4d269c4895f36311b50d191be97bbcf0  xsa268.patch
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233f7e69e5fb931d2e5cf03f4407f38ff960c039c9eced957df13d3cc37fa6b1  xsa268-4.7-2.patch
4a0c705f0266185b32daf313e686abc340e2fbb1a1644647500fc405bc180913  xsa268-4.9-1.patch
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531654f82908c1aa7b0fcea818c82c4b53d4750a697db3353cc05e9e91e5d639  xsa268-4.10-2.patch
baeb6b2c28a9cbe929c9cf34398780002fffe12b928df4d1e5951c0a5b51336a  xsa268-4.11.patch
$

DEPLOYMENT DURING EMBARGO
=========================

Deployment of the patches and/or mitigations described above (or
others which are substantially similar) is permitted during the
embargo, even on public-facing systems with untrusted guest users and
administrators.

But: Distribution of updated software is prohibited (except to other
members of the predisclosure list).

Predisclosure list members who wish to deploy significantly different
patches and/or mitigations, please contact the Xen Project Security
Team.

(Note: this during-embargo deployment notice is retained in
post-embargo publicly released Xen Project advisories, even though it
is then no longer applicable.  This is to enable the community to have
oversight of the Xen Project Security Team's decisionmaking.)

For more information about permissible uses of embargoed information,
consult the Xen Project community's agreed Security Policy:
  http://www.xenproject.org/security-policy.html
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Hash: SHA256

            Xen Security Advisory CVE-2018-15470 / XSA-272
                              version 3

               oxenstored does not apply quota-maxentity

UPDATES IN VERSION 3
====================

CVE assigned.

ISSUE DESCRIPTION
=================

The logic in oxenstored for handling writes depended on the order of
evaluation of expressions making up a tuple.

As indicated in section 7.7.3 "Operations on data structures" of the
OCaml manual:

  http://caml.inria.fr/pub/docs/manual-ocaml/expr.html

the order of evaluation of subexpressions is not specified.  In
practice, different implementations behave differently.

IMPACT
======

oxenstored may not enforce the configured quota-maxentity.

This allows a malicious or buggy guest to write as many xenstore entries
as it wishes, causing unbounded memory usage in oxenstored.  This can
lead to a system-wide DoS.

VULNERABLE SYSTEMS
==================

Xen 4.1 and later are potentially vulnerable.

Only systems using the OCaml xenstored implementation are potentially
vulnerable.  Systems using the C xenstored implementation are not
vulnerable.

Whether the compiled oxenstored binary is vulnerable depends on which
compiler was used.  OCaml can be compiled either as bytecode (with
ocamlc) or as a native binary (with ocamlopt).

The following OCaml program demonstrates the issue, and identifies
whether the resulting oxenstored binary will skip the quota enforcement.

  $ cat order.ml
  let check () =
    let flag = ref false in
    let update _ = flag := true; () in
    List.iter update [1;2;3], !flag

  let main () =
    let _, flag = check () in
    if flag then
    print_endline "This code is not vulnerable!"
    else
    print_endline "This code is vulnerable!"

  let () = main ()

  $ ocamlc order.ml -o order.bytecode
  $ ./order.bytecode
  This code is vulnerable!
  $ ocamlopt order.ml -o order.native
  $ ./order.native
  This code is not vulnerable!

To confirm whether an OCaml binary is bytecode or native, use file.

  $ file order.bytecode
  order.bytecode: a /usr/bin/ocamlrun script executable (binary data)
  $ file order.native
  order.native: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, ...

NOTE: These results are applicable to OCaml 4.01.0-5 as distributed in
Debian Jessie.  These results are not representative of other versions
of OCaml, or of other OS distributions.

MITIGATION
==========

There are no mitigations available.

CREDITS
=======

This issue was discovered by Christian Lindig of Citrix.

RESOLUTION
==========

Applying the appropriate attached patch resolves this issue.

xsa272.patch           All versions of Xen

$ sha256sum xsa272*
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6e0359d89bf65794f16d39198cc90f5c3137bce4eb850e54625ab00e2c568c2c  xsa272.patch
$

DEPLOYMENT DURING EMBARGO
=========================

Deployment of the patches and/or mitigations described above (or
others which are substantially similar) is permitted during the
embargo, even on public-facing systems with untrusted guest users and
administrators.

But: Distribution of updated software is prohibited (except to other
members of the predisclosure list).

Predisclosure list members who wish to deploy significantly different
patches and/or mitigations, please contact the Xen Project Security
Team.


(Note: this during-embargo deployment notice is retained in
post-embargo publicly released Xen Project advisories, even though it
is then no longer applicable.  This is to enable the community to have
oversight of the Xen Project Security Team's decisionmaking.)

For more information about permissible uses of embargoed information,
consult the Xen Project community's agreed Security Policy:
  http://www.xenproject.org/security-policy.html
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I'm trying create a virtual machine using Xen as hypervisor and
virt-manager (libvirt) as the management module. When trying to create the
virtual machine I am getting the following error:

"
Unable to complete install: 'internal error: unsupported input bus usb'
"

ERROR DETAILS:

Unable to complete install: 'internal error: unsupported input bus usb'

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/asyncjob.py", line 75, in
cb_wrapper
    callback(asyncjob, *args, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/create.py", line 2276, in
_do_async_install
    guest.start_install(meter=meter)
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/guest.py", line 461, in
start_install
    doboot, transient)
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/guest.py", line 397, in
_create_guest
    domain = self.conn.createXML(install_xml or final_xml, 0)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/libvirt.py", line 3717, in
createXML
    if ret is None:raise libvirtError('virDomainCreateXML() failed',
conn=self)
libvirt.libvirtError: internal error: unsupported input bus usb

NOTE I: The deploy process follows the instructions here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwkmDM-Gpzc and here
https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Xen/Xen4QuickStart .
NOTE II: Xen Hypervisor uses a CentOS 7 as "domu".

MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROBLEM HERE:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/q/464186/61742

Thanks! =D

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I&#39;m trying create a virtual machine using Xen as =
hypervisor and virt-manager (libvirt) as the management module. When trying=
 to create the virtual machine I am getting the following error:</div><div>=
<br></div><div>&quot;</div><div>Unable to complete install: &#39;internal e=
rror: unsupported input bus usb&#39;</div><div>&quot;</div><div><br></div><=
div><div>ERROR DETAILS:</div><div><br></div><div>Unable to complete install=
: &#39;internal error: unsupported input bus usb&#39;</div><div><br></div><=
div>Traceback (most recent call last):</div><div>=C2=A0 File &quot;/usr/sha=
re/virt-manager/virtManager/asyncjob.py&quot;, line 75, in cb_wrapper</div>=
<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 callback(asyncjob, *args, **kwargs)</div><div>=C2=A0 Fil=
e &quot;/usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/create.py&quot;, line 2276, in =
_do_async_install</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 guest.start_install(meter=3Dmeter=
)</div><div>=C2=A0 File &quot;/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/guest.py&quo=
t;, line 461, in start_install</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 doboot, transient)</=
div><div>=C2=A0 File &quot;/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/guest.py&quot;,=
 line 397, in _create_guest</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 domain =3D self.conn.cr=
eateXML(install_xml or final_xml, 0)</div><div>=C2=A0 File &quot;/usr/lib/p=
ython3.7/site-packages/libvirt.py&quot;, line 3717, in createXML</div><div>=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 if ret is None:raise libvirtError(&#39;virDomainCreateXML() f=
ailed&#39;, conn=3Dself)</div><div>libvirt.libvirtError: internal error: un=
supported input bus usb</div></div><div><br></div><div><div>NOTE I: The dep=
loy process follows the instructions here <a href=3D"https://www.youtube.co=
m/watch?v=3DBwkmDM-Gpzc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBwkmDM-Gpzc</a> =
and here <a href=3D"https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Xen/Xen4QuickStart">http=
s://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Xen/Xen4QuickStart</a> .</div><div>NOTE II: Xen =
Hypervisor uses a CentOS 7 as &quot;domu&quot;.</div></div><div><br></div><=
div>MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROBLEM HERE:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://unix.s=
tackexchange.com/q/464186/61742">https://unix.stackexchange.com/q/464186/61=
742</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks! =3DD</div></div>

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ra wireless modem) the device disappear from Dom0 but never appear in DomU
Is there something to do in domU to get the device ?

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