From xen-users-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Aug 01 14:45:44 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 01 Aug 2023 14:45:44 +0000 Received: from list by lists.xenproject.org with outflank-mailman.574269.899556 (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qQqcM-0001oM-Sp; Tue, 01 Aug 2023 14:44:58 +0000 X-Outflank-Mailman: Message body and most headers restored to incoming version Received: by outflank-mailman (output) from mailman id 574269.899556; Tue, 01 Aug 2023 14:44:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xenproject.org) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qQqcM-0001o7-NG; Tue, 01 Aug 2023 14:44:58 +0000 Received: by outflank-mailman (input) for mailman id 574269; Tue, 01 Aug 2023 14:44:57 +0000 Received: from se1-gles-flk1-in.inumbo.com ([94.247.172.50] helo=se1-gles-flk1.inumbo.com) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qQqcK-0001l9-Qw for xen-users@lists.xen.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2023 14:44:57 +0000 Received: from mail.xenproject.org (mail.xenproject.org [104.130.215.37]) by se1-gles-flk1.inumbo.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id f7e35ead-3079-11ee-8613-37d641c3527e; Tue, 01 Aug 2023 16:44:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from xenbits.xenproject.org ([104.239.192.120]) by mail.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qQqc6-00077U-Hn; Tue, 01 Aug 2023 14:44:42 +0000 Received: from julieng by xenbits.xenproject.org with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qQqc6-0003DF-Fl; Tue, 01 Aug 2023 14:44:42 +0000 X-BeenThere: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org List-Id: Xen user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: xen-users-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Precedence: list Sender: "Xen-users" X-Inumbo-ID: f7e35ead-3079-11ee-8613-37d641c3527e DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=xen.org; s=20200302mail; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:CC:From:To:MIME-Version: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; bh=SZXqskAvCr2m3Sg9JnEDMbVAwCNoFywf9GxMzz8UySw=; b=A5SSiGbqu6Jo+u+jhTA6RP/d0Z v+Py5L9yo1saysKXLeVDBSa1vrPe90zx4Kc4Xe4tkl+Fth+Ir7TsRVSURToLDm9JD2oZ/6mtkGNmN MQ89J7Ux2k7jiD71MB+lLWrt+9lxj5+zf2o8w7VDX96RYAdee/GpXez6Tspw39AJ/cBc=; Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=separator"; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) To: xen-announce@lists.xen.org, xen-devel@lists.xen.org, xen-users@lists.xen.org, oss-security@lists.openwall.com From: Xen.org security team CC: Xen.org security team Subject: Xen Security Advisory 436 v1 (CVE-2023-34320) - arm: Guests can trigger a deadlock on Cortex-A77 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2023 14:44:42 +0000 --=separator Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Xen Security Advisory CVE-2023-34320 / XSA-436 arm: Guests can trigger a deadlock on Cortex-A77 ISSUE DESCRIPTION ================= Cortex-A77 cores (r0p0 and r1p0) are affected by erratum 1508412 where software, under certain circumstances, could deadlock a core due to the execution of either a load to device or non-cacheable memory, and either a store exclusive or register read of the Physical Address Register (PAR_EL1) in close proximity. IMPACT ====== A (malicious) guest that doesn't include the workaround for erratum 1508412 could deadlock the core. This will ultimately result to a deadlock of the system. VULNERABLE SYSTEMS ================== Systems running all version of Xen are affected. This bug is specific to Arm Cortex-A77 cores r0p0 and r1p0. MITIGATION ========== There are no known mitigations. NOTE REGARDING LACK OF EMBARGO ============================== This issue has been publicly documented. RESOLUTION ========== To handle properly the erratum, it is necessary to have an updated firmware and that both the hypervisor and guest OSes have the workaround. This means it is not possible to security support Xen on the Cortex-A77, even on systems which have the workaround enabled. Applying the attached patches will document the situation and also add the workaround in Xen if someone wish to run on Cortex-A77 with only trusted guests. Note that patches for released versions are generally prepared to apply to the stable branches, and may not apply cleanly to the most recent release tarball. 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Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Content-Language: en-US From: Paul Leiber Subject: Xen on Raspberry Pi 4 To: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list, Now that the devices are available again, I got hold of a Raspberry Pi 4 (8 GB) which I am currently trying to set up Xen on for using it as a backup server. What I did was to install a standard Debian distribution booted via EFI/GRUB2 (following https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=282839) and then install the xen-System-arm64 package via apt. I have output on a console via UART (at least when booting Debian without Xen, see hypothesis 3 below). Booting Debian without Xen is working fine. (Although I only see the Grub selection menu via UART when no HDMI is plugged in while booting.) Selecting Xen in Grub leads to the following output on the console right after Grub hands over: Loading Xen 4.17-arm64.efi ... Loading Linux 6.1.0-10-arm64 ... Loading initial ramdisk ... Using modules provided by bootloader in FDT Xen 4.17.2-pre (c/s ) EFI loader And then the output stops. I have four hypotheses (not mutually exclusive, and there are very probably unknown unknowns on my side): 1. Booting Xen via EFI is not working, and I need to use U-Boot as described in https://xenproject.org/2020/09/29/xen-on-raspberry-pi-4-adventures/ 2. The Debian package xen-system-arm64 is not suitable for this purpose and I need to compile Xen from scratch 3. I got the console settings wrong (I currently use the settings from https://xenproject.org/2020/09/29/xen-on-raspberry-pi-4-adventures/ for Xen command line specified in Grub, but I also tried a lot of different settings), and Xen is actually doing something, but I don't see the output. 4. There is something wrong with my setup and I need to change specific EFI and/or other settings. Has anybody got a similar setup working and can give me hints? I am aware of https://github.com/dornerworks/xen-rpi4-builder, I might try this as one of the next steps, but I'd rather stick with Debian, if possible. Thanks, Paul From xen-users-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Wed Aug 02 21:03:53 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Wed, 02 Aug 2023 21:03:53 +0000 Received: from list by lists.xenproject.org with outflank-mailman.575212.901026 (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qRJ08-0007bt-Nh; Wed, 02 Aug 2023 21:03:24 +0000 X-Outflank-Mailman: Message body and most headers restored to incoming version Received: by outflank-mailman (output) from mailman id 575212.901026; Wed, 02 Aug 2023 21:03:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xenproject.org) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qRJ08-0007bk-Jo; Wed, 02 Aug 2023 21:03:24 +0000 Received: by outflank-mailman (input) for mailman id 575212; Wed, 02 Aug 2023 21:03:23 +0000 Received: from mail.xenproject.org ([104.130.215.37]) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qRJ07-0007be-AY for xen-users@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2023 21:03:23 +0000 Received: from xenbits.xenproject.org ([104.239.192.120]) by mail.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qRJ07-0005Hf-5Y; Wed, 02 Aug 2023 21:03:23 +0000 Received: from gw1.octic.net ([88.97.20.152] helo=[10.0.1.102]) by xenbits.xenproject.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qRJ06-00079A-Ve; Wed, 02 Aug 2023 21:03:23 +0000 X-BeenThere: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org List-Id: Xen user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: xen-users-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Precedence: list Sender: "Xen-users" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=xen.org; s=20200302mail; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:Subject: From:References:To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID; bh=S1KmDZWH306YZl6wLhgyD1jmRKV82tPTkDQ6SZo0jjw=; b=DTChShmPmraAbjzGwYvhcYnBDN iH7H7KPyjFj+0p5v6MIUGqvCmQ9YZO5Skf7axwdUeFr9huWQB2xEONiIkKLR1Nbp21FZki4+LPXeZ CGBkrF2A/K0KtmyWCKcJd5ijXbVZTZJxn9cKSNAbC2kfTJefEzoLSi01P5IQOrf+dh/g=; Message-ID: <9433f1ef-77f9-ccda-afe9-c077984a01c4@xen.org> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 22:03:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 To: Paul Leiber , xen-users@lists.xenproject.org References: <96c00a13-9cb9-15dc-de87-60ff4f814c2f@onlineschubla.de> From: Julien Grall Subject: Re: Xen on Raspberry Pi 4 In-Reply-To: <96c00a13-9cb9-15dc-de87-60ff4f814c2f@onlineschubla.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 02/08/2023 21:42, Paul Leiber wrote: > Hi list, Hi Paul, > Now that the devices are available again, I got hold of a Raspberry Pi 4 > (8 GB) which I am currently trying to set up Xen on for using it as a > backup server. > > What I did was to install a standard Debian distribution booted via > EFI/GRUB2 (following > https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=282839) and then install > the xen-System-arm64 package via apt. I have output on a console via > UART (at least when booting Debian without Xen, see hypothesis 3 below). > > Booting Debian without Xen is working fine. (Although I only see the > Grub selection menu via UART when no HDMI is plugged in while booting.) > > Selecting Xen in Grub leads to the following output on the console right > after Grub hands over: > > Loading Xen 4.17-arm64.efi ... > Loading Linux 6.1.0-10-arm64 ... > Loading initial ramdisk ... > Using modules provided by bootloader in FDT > Xen 4.17.2-pre (c/s ) EFI loader > > And then the output stops. > > I have four hypotheses (not mutually exclusive, and there are very > probably unknown unknowns on my side): > > 1. Booting Xen via EFI is not working, and I need to use U-Boot as > described in > https://xenproject.org/2020/09/29/xen-on-raspberry-pi-4-adventures/ > > 2. The Debian package xen-system-arm64 is not suitable for this purpose > and I need to compile Xen from scratch > > 3. I got the console settings wrong (I currently use the settings from > https://xenproject.org/2020/09/29/xen-on-raspberry-pi-4-adventures/ for > Xen command line specified in Grub, but I also tried a lot of different > settings), and Xen is actually doing something, but I don't see the output. > > 4. There is something wrong with my setup and I need to change specific > EFI and/or other settings. > > Has anybody got a similar setup working and can give me hints? I have been using Debian + Xen + Grub + UEFI on Rpi4. UEFI firmwares are mostly shipped with ACPI only (IOW no Device-Tree support) This is not yet a fully supported configuration on Arm64 and therefore not enabled by default. Can you check the kernel log when booting Debian without Xen for anything referring to ACPI? If so, you will need to Xen build yourself to enable ACPI (this is protected by EXPERT). Alternatively you could use U-boot where Device-Tree boot will be available. 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Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.14.0 Subject: Re: Xen on Raspberry Pi 4 To: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org References: <96c00a13-9cb9-15dc-de87-60ff4f814c2f@onlineschubla.de> <9433f1ef-77f9-ccda-afe9-c077984a01c4@xen.org> Content-Language: en-US From: Paul Leiber In-Reply-To: <9433f1ef-77f9-ccda-afe9-c077984a01c4@xen.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 02.08.2023 um 23:03 schrieb Julien Grall: > > > On 02/08/2023 21:42, Paul Leiber wrote: >> Hi list, > > Hi Paul, > >> >> What I did was to install a standard Debian distribution booted via >> EFI/GRUB2 (following >> https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=282839) and then >> install the xen-System-arm64 package via apt. I have output on a >> console via UART (at least when booting Debian without Xen, see >> hypothesis 3 below). >> >> Booting Debian without Xen is working fine. (Although I only see the >> Grub selection menu via UART when no HDMI is plugged in while booting.) >> >> Selecting Xen in Grub leads to the following output on the console >> right after Grub hands over: >> >> Loading Xen 4.17-arm64.efi ... >> Loading Linux 6.1.0-10-arm64 ... >> Loading initial ramdisk ... >> Using modules provided by bootloader in FDT >> Xen 4.17.2-pre (c/s ) EFI loader >> >> And then the output stops. >> > > I have been using Debian + Xen + Grub + UEFI on Rpi4. UEFI firmwares are > mostly shipped with ACPI only (IOW no Device-Tree support) This is not > yet a fully supported configuration on Arm64 and therefore not enabled > by default. > > Can you check the kernel log when booting Debian without Xen for > anything referring to ACPI? If so, you will need to Xen build yourself > to enable ACPI (this is protected by EXPERT). Alternatively you could > use U-boot where Device-Tree boot will be available. Indeed, the device is using ACPI. There is an option in the UEFI settings to switch to Device-Tree, but that didn't have any effect I could see, other than plain Debian didn't boot anymore either. I compiled Xen with the ACPI option for Arm, and got it running. Thank you very much for your hint, Julien! For reference: To enable the ACPI option, I went to the "xen" subdirectory in the Xen source main directory after "git clone" and did a "make menuconfig". Out of convience, I initially intended to only rebuild the Debian Xen hypervisor package with the ACPI switch on, but that didn't work somehow. I couldn't find out why. I then created a "Frankenxen" with a newly built hypervisor and standard debian tools, which booted (yay!), but of course the xen tools didn't work. Using the repo to check out a Xen 17.1 version and build the hypervisor (so I could still rely on Debian updates for all the other Xen packages) also didn't work, Xen didn't boot. I then decided to build a complete Xen version from scratch from the master repo, which worked well. So perhaps this approach with enabling ACPI only works on Xen versions > 17.1? 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Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.14.0 Subject: Re: Raspberry Pi 4 Xen or KVM Content-Language: en-US To: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org References: From: Paul Leiber In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 03.08.2023 um 22:59 schrieb reijo.korhonen@gmail.com: > Raspberry Pi 4 (8GB) is interesting platform to run as server (if your > succeed to get 8GB version). It uses very little power, so it is > ecologic solution. > > To use Raspberry as VM host, what are pros and cons with traditional > QEMU/KVM vs Xen? Is it so, that because KVM runs on linux kernel, linux > guests can use more memory than XEN guests? Or can one or other host be > installed "Out of the box", but another needs special compiling and > configuration? I can't make any statement regarding a comparison between Xen and KVM on a Raspberry Pi, as I have no experience using KVM (on any platform). However, I can say that to get Xen running on a Raspberry Pi 4B (using Debian, not Raspbian, and UEFI->Grub bootloader), I needed to build Xen myself with ACPI enabled. This was discussed very recently on this list. Once I figured out how to build Xen (with help from Julien), installation and setup was fairly easy and not really different to a installation with a package manager. I needed to manually enable some services, but that's the only big difference that I remeber. If you use U-Boot as a bootloader, you should be able to use the standard Xen packages provided by Debian (I didn't try that out myself). Xen has been running flawlessly on my RPi since installation a couple of days ago. 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The physical register file is a structure competitively shared between sibling threads. Therefore an attacker can infer data from the sibling thread, or from a more privileged context. For more details, see: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/technical/software-security-guidance/technical-documentation/gather-data-sampling.html IMPACT ====== An attacker can infer data from different contexts on the same core. Examples of such data includes key material, cipher and plaintext from the AES-NI instructions, or the contents of REP-MOVS instructions, commonly used to implement memcpy(). VULNERABLE SYSTEMS ================== Systems running all versions of Xen are affected. See the Intel documentation for a list of affected processors. CPUs from other hardware vendors are not believed to be affected. MITIGATION ========== This issue can be mitigated by disabling AVX, either by booting Xen with `cpuid=no-avx` on the command line, or by specifying `cpuid="host:avx=0"` in the vm.cfg file of all untrusted VMs. However, this may come with a significant performance impact on the system and is not recommended for anyone able to deploy the microcode and patch described below. RESOLUTION ========== Intel are producing microcode updates to address the issue for most affected CPUs. Consult your dom0 OS vendor. This microcode is effective when late-loaded, which can be performed on a live system without reboot. Without microcode, disabling AVX is the only mitigation. This is implemented by the patches to Xen on hardware believed to be vulnerable. In addition, to indicate safety to guest kernels, Xen needs to synthesise new bits for guests to see, which depends on MSR_ARCH_CAPS being visible to guests. The work to support MSR_ARCH_CAPS is extensive and has been going on in public in earnest since March. The backports to security trees are more-extensive still. Therefore, we have decided to produce new releases on all stable trees. 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ISSUE DESCRIPTION ================= The fix for XSA-423 added logic to Linux'es netback driver to deal with a frontend splitting a packet in a way such that not all of the headers would come in one piece. Unfortunately the logic introduced there didn't account for the extreme case of the entire packet being split into as many pieces as permitted by the protocol, yet still being smaller than the area that's specially dealt with to keep all (possible) headers together. Such an unusual packet would therefore trigger a buffer overrun in the driver. IMPACT ====== An unprivileged guest can cause Denial of Service (DoS) of the host by sending network packets to the backend, causing the backend to crash. Data corruption or privilege escalation seem unlikely but have not been ruled out. VULNERABLE SYSTEMS ================== All systems using a Linux based network backend with kernel 3.19 and newer are vulnerable, on the assumption that the fix for XSA-423 was taken. Systems using other network backends are not known to be vulnerable. MITIGATION ========== Using another PV network backend (e.g. the qemu based "qnic" backend) will mitigate the problem. Using a dedicated network driver domain per guest will mitigate the problem. CREDITS ======= This issue was discovered by Ross Lagerwall of Citrix. RESOLUTION ========== Applying the attached patch resolves this issue. xsa432-linux.patch Linux 6.3 - 6.5-rc $ sha256sum xsa432* bf7acd23be1d185c40aca8b4f7700e25afd482d9ac8671ae22b021380b059091 xsa432-linux.patch $ DEPLOYMENT DURING EMBARGO ========================= Deployment of the patches and/or mitigations described above (or others which are substantially similar) is permitted during the embargo, even on public-facing systems with untrusted guest users and administrators. But: Distribution of updated software is prohibited (except to other members of the predisclosure list). Predisclosure list members who wish to deploy significantly different patches and/or mitigations, please contact the Xen Project Security Team. (Note: this during-embargo deployment notice is retained in post-embargo publicly released Xen Project advisories, even though it is then no longer applicable. This is to enable the community to have oversight of the Xen Project Security Team's decisionmaking.) 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Tue, 08 Aug 2023 17:00:22 +0000 Received: from andrewcoop by xenbits.xenproject.org with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qTQ4E-0002Mq-KX; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 17:00:22 +0000 X-BeenThere: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org List-Id: Xen user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: xen-users-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Precedence: list Sender: "Xen-users" X-Inumbo-ID: 141b2db0-360d-11ee-8613-37d641c3527e DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=xen.org; s=20200302mail; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:CC:From:To:MIME-Version: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; bh=XF+UrQzxCsQAO1ziUVnoWjoX2Wjp8D0sLL+ai1kpVc8=; b=pwUzTpFpAOwLBfHDBG7djxbQM4 mREzvolVB1T3ZIfsnyjjGMkT/B+fTcsuD7VhpYtCCAZNS96m/098QIRxLlkXVmFn20J4I+/sPmHpx J1cwyy6tGPdnkTtnXoAV/aPTQ13vad0Cl5z3AwoJOSTGUzVOOnXTgoBGmiqJ8jMc2P20=; Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=separator"; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) To: xen-announce@lists.xen.org, xen-devel@lists.xen.org, xen-users@lists.xen.org, oss-security@lists.openwall.com From: Xen.org security team CC: Xen.org security team Subject: Xen Security Advisory 434 v1 (CVE-2023-20569) - x86/AMD: Speculative Return Stack Overflow Message-Id: Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2023 17:00:22 +0000 --=separator Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Xen Security Advisory CVE-2023-20569 / XSA-434 x86/AMD: Speculative Return Stack Overflow ISSUE DESCRIPTION ================= Researchers from ETH Zurich have extended their prior research (XSA-422, Branch Type Confusion, a.k.a Retbleed) and have discovered INCEPTION, also know as RAS (Return Address Stack) Poisoning, and Speculative Return Stack Overflow. The RAS is updated when a CALL instruction is predicted, rather than at a later point in the pipeline. However, the RAS is still fundamentally a circular stack. It is possible to poison the branch type and target predictions such that, at a point of the attackers choosing, the branch predictor predicts enough CALLs back-to-back to wrap around the entire RAS and overwrite a correct return prediction with one of the attackers choosing. This allows the attacker to control RET speculation in a victim context, and leak arbitrary data as a result. For more details, see: https://comsec.ethz.ch/inception https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/product-security/bulletin/amd-sb-7005 IMPACT ====== An attacker might be able to infer the contents of memory belonging to other guests. VULNERABLE SYSTEMS ================== Only CPUs from AMD are believed to be potentially vulnerable. CPUs from other manufacturers are not believed to be impacted. At the time of writing, all in-support AMD CPUs (that is, Zen1 thru Zen4 microarchitectures) are believed to be potentially vulnerable. Older CPUs have not been analysed. By default following XSA-422, Xen mitigates BTC on AMD Zen2 and older CPUs by issuing an IBPB on entry to Xen. On Zen2 and older CPUs, this is believed to be sufficient to protect against SRSO too. AMD Zen3 and Zen4 CPUs are susceptible to SRSO too. All versions of Xen are vulnerable on these CPUs. MITIGATION ========== On Zen3 and Zen4, there is no mitigation. RESOLUTION ========== AMD are producing microcode updates for Zen3 and Zen4. Consult your dom0 OS vendor. With the microcode update applied, booting Xen with `spec-ctrl=ibpb-entry` is sufficient to protect against SRSO. The appropriate set of patches will default to using IBPB-on-entry on Zen3 and Zen4 CPUs, as well as synthesise new CPUID bits for guests to use in order to determine their susceptibility in a migration-safe way. The patches for this issue interact texturally but not logically with the fixes for XSA-435, which itself has complexities. 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Looking at the logs it was because instead of being named eg. > "eth0", the interfaces are now named eg. "enX0". > [snip] > Mostly sharing to make others aware [snip] For completeness, I'll share too ;) The domUs vifs naming scheme change has been mentionned in the Bookworm release notes. I suggest everyone reading them BEFORE upgrading, as it can prevent a lot of surprises ! https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#xen-network There is also a Debian bug about it (although created after your mail here) : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1042842 It may contain useful information concerning your firewall domU. -- ++ zithro / Cyril From xen-users-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Aug 11 18:52:29 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 18:52:29 +0000 Received: from list by lists.xenproject.org with outflank-mailman.582629.912492 (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qUXES-0007W5-Ox; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 18:51:32 +0000 X-Outflank-Mailman: Message body and most headers restored to incoming version Received: by outflank-mailman (output) from mailman id 582629.912492; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 18:51:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xenproject.org) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qUXES-0007Vu-IX; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 18:51:32 +0000 Received: by outflank-mailman (input) for mailman id 582629; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 18:51:30 +0000 Received: from mail.xenproject.org ([104.130.215.37]) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qUXEQ-0007Vo-Pw for xen-users@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 18:51:30 +0000 Received: from xenbits.xenproject.org ([104.239.192.120]) by mail.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qUXEQ-00030J-Bu; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 18:51:30 +0000 Received: from 54-240-197-234.amazon.com ([54.240.197.234] helo=[192.168.207.66]) by xenbits.xenproject.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qUXEQ-0003KB-4m; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 18:51:30 +0000 X-BeenThere: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org List-Id: Xen user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: xen-users-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Precedence: list Sender: "Xen-users" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=xen.org; s=20200302mail; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:From: References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID; bh=rDjPELol98O+j9Vld8p8OoPHZddNAttuY3DqIHimEvw=; b=bpVyBSI6wRc+X5/OLjdcZRORDp 8aavJzRWTx9w27j4z40sm7foNaEaWg6Dgu8vK9Ig29zxpHPBs9uGdQZtDlo/f2jQQIH2cdv2BBP3Y 9Bniq5k3QgmRQfxBb350/d9XxVjYxw31IldB8kCJhq6Q1bnxWtkdZ4Aecypv1noy1AiY=; Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 19:51:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Xen on Raspberry Pi 4 Content-Language: en-GB To: Paul Leiber , xen-users@lists.xenproject.org References: <96c00a13-9cb9-15dc-de87-60ff4f814c2f@onlineschubla.de> <9433f1ef-77f9-ccda-afe9-c077984a01c4@xen.org> <78f68d96-c2ec-26d7-497a-dfa260d91521@onlineschubla.de> From: Julien Grall In-Reply-To: <78f68d96-c2ec-26d7-497a-dfa260d91521@onlineschubla.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Paul, On 04/08/2023 06:44, Paul Leiber wrote: > Am 02.08.2023 um 23:03 schrieb Julien Grall: >> >> >> On 02/08/2023 21:42, Paul Leiber wrote: >>> Hi list, >> >> Hi Paul, >> >>> >>> What I did was to install a standard Debian distribution booted via >>> EFI/GRUB2 (following >>> https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=282839) and then >>> install the xen-System-arm64 package via apt. I have output on a >>> console via UART (at least when booting Debian without Xen, see >>> hypothesis 3 below). >>> >>> Booting Debian without Xen is working fine. (Although I only see the >>> Grub selection menu via UART when no HDMI is plugged in while booting.) >>> >>> Selecting Xen in Grub leads to the following output on the console >>> right after Grub hands over: >>> >>> Loading Xen 4.17-arm64.efi ... >>> Loading Linux 6.1.0-10-arm64 ... >>> Loading initial ramdisk ... >>> Using modules provided by bootloader in FDT >>> Xen 4.17.2-pre (c/s ) EFI loader >>> >>> And then the output stops. >>> >> >> I have been using Debian + Xen + Grub + UEFI on Rpi4. UEFI firmwares >> are mostly shipped with ACPI only (IOW no Device-Tree support) This is >> not yet a fully supported configuration on Arm64 and therefore not >> enabled by default. >> >> Can you check the kernel log when booting Debian without Xen for >> anything referring to ACPI? If so, you will need to Xen build yourself >> to enable ACPI (this is protected by EXPERT). Alternatively you could >> use U-boot where Device-Tree boot will be available. > > Indeed, the device is using ACPI. There is an option in the UEFI > settings to switch to Device-Tree, but that didn't have any effect I > could see, other than plain Debian didn't boot anymore either. > > I compiled Xen with the ACPI option for Arm, and got it running. Thank > you very much for your hint, Julien! > > For reference: > > To enable the ACPI option, I went to the "xen" subdirectory in the Xen > source main directory after "git clone" and did a "make menuconfig". > > Out of convience, I initially intended to only rebuild the Debian Xen > hypervisor package with the ACPI switch on, but that didn't work > somehow. I couldn't find out why. Is Debian using 4.17.2? Did you see any output from Xen/Linux. > I then created a "Frankenxen" with a > newly built hypervisor and standard debian tools, which booted (yay!), > but of course the xen tools didn't work. Using the repo to check out a > Xen 17.1 version and build the hypervisor (so I could still rely on > Debian updates for all the other Xen packages) also didn't work, Xen > didn't boot. I then decided to build a complete Xen version from scratch > from the master repo, which worked well. So perhaps this approach with > enabling ACPI only works on Xen versions > 17.1? I don't remember any change related to ACPI on Arm that are in master but not 4.17. I will try to have a look in the next couple of weeks and find which patches may be missing. 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Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.14.0 From: Paul Leiber Subject: Re: Xen on Raspberry Pi 4 To: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org References: <96c00a13-9cb9-15dc-de87-60ff4f814c2f@onlineschubla.de> <9433f1ef-77f9-ccda-afe9-c077984a01c4@xen.org> <78f68d96-c2ec-26d7-497a-dfa260d91521@onlineschubla.de> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 11.08.2023 um 20:51 schrieb Julien Grall: > Hi Paul, > > On 04/08/2023 06:44, Paul Leiber wrote: >> Am 02.08.2023 um 23:03 schrieb Julien Grall: >>> >>> >>> On 02/08/2023 21:42, Paul Leiber wrote: >>>> Hi list, >>> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>>> >>>> What I did was to install a standard Debian distribution booted via >>>> EFI/GRUB2 (following >>>> https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=282839) and then >>>> install the xen-System-arm64 package via apt. I have output on a >>>> console via UART (at least when booting Debian without Xen, see >>>> hypothesis 3 below). >>>> >>>> Booting Debian without Xen is working fine. (Although I only see the >>>> Grub selection menu via UART when no HDMI is plugged in while booting.) >>>> >>>> Selecting Xen in Grub leads to the following output on the console >>>> right after Grub hands over: >>>> >>>> Loading Xen 4.17-arm64.efi ... >>>> Loading Linux 6.1.0-10-arm64 ... >>>> Loading initial ramdisk ... >>>> Using modules provided by bootloader in FDT >>>> Xen 4.17.2-pre (c/s ) EFI loader >>>> >>>> And then the output stops. >>>> >>> >>> I have been using Debian + Xen + Grub + UEFI on Rpi4. UEFI firmwares >>> are mostly shipped with ACPI only (IOW no Device-Tree support) This >>> is not yet a fully supported configuration on Arm64 and therefore not >>> enabled by default. >>> >>> Can you check the kernel log when booting Debian without Xen for >>> anything referring to ACPI? If so, you will need to Xen build >>> yourself to enable ACPI (this is protected by EXPERT). Alternatively >>> you could use U-boot where Device-Tree boot will be available. >> >> Indeed, the device is using ACPI. There is an option in the UEFI >> settings to switch to Device-Tree, but that didn't have any effect I >> could see, other than plain Debian didn't boot anymore either. >> >> I compiled Xen with the ACPI option for Arm, and got it running. Thank >> you very much for your hint, Julien! >> >> For reference: >> >> To enable the ACPI option, I went to the "xen" subdirectory in the Xen >> source main directory after "git clone" and did a "make menuconfig". >> >> Out of convience, I initially intended to only rebuild the Debian Xen >> hypervisor package with the ACPI switch on, but that didn't work >> somehow. I couldn't find out why. > > Is Debian using 4.17.2? Did you see any output from Xen/Linux. xl info on a standard Debian installation gives me version 4.17.2-pre. If I remember correctly, the output when booting both my self-compiled Debian xen package or the self-compiled 17.1 version is identical to the one above, it stops with: Using modules provided by bootloader in FDT Xen 4.17.2-pre (c/s ) EFI loader >> I then created a "Frankenxen" with a newly built hypervisor and >> standard debian tools, which booted (yay!), but of course the xen >> tools didn't work. Using the repo to check out a Xen 17.1 version and >> build the hypervisor (so I could still rely on Debian updates for all >> the other Xen packages) also didn't work, Xen didn't boot. I then >> decided to build a complete Xen version from scratch from the master >> repo, which worked well. So perhaps this approach with enabling ACPI >> only works on Xen versions > 17.1? > > I don't remember any change related to ACPI on Arm that are in master > but not 4.17. I will try to have a look in the next couple of weeks and > find which patches may be missing. Let me know if I can help. 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<6_mYFi3YhfcNPQBD6dAcWvLVQwA-ZINTM8wl2m5INzaYERhVS7A0YKrMgCDrae1D57c9VsiYDsKRSKahKBvINQx5lLRqtlh1whcHIzVUxLg=@protonmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.23.0.1] From: Klaus Darilion To: CamZie , "xen-users@lists.xenproject.org" Subject: AW: error: not xen image / you need to load the kernel first Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 22:29:28 +0200 X-Assembled-By: XWall v3.56 Message-ID: X-XWALL-BCKS: auto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe this 5.4 kernel uses zstd compression, which is not supported by xen 4= =2E14. Xen 4.15 (deb12) supports zstd compressed kernels. regards Klaus > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Xen-users Im Auftrag von > CamZie > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. August 2023 10:54 > An: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org > Betreff: error: not xen image / you need to load the kernel first >=20 > Hello, >=20 > We are having problems booting Ubuntu 20.04 installation with the newest > kernel "5.4.0-156-generic" on our Ganeti (Xen) server. >=20 > We get the following error message everytime we boot the newest kernel: >=20 > error: not xen image. > error: you need to load the kernel first. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Using an older kernel "4.15.0-20-generic" works fine. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Ganeti (Xen) server: >=20 > * OS: Debian 11.7 > * Ganeti version: 3.0.2-1~deb11u1 > * Xen Hypervisor: 4.14.5+94-ge49571868d-1 >=20 > Does anyone experience the same issue? >=20 >=20 > Thanks in advance. 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Last month I built and installed xen-4.17.2pre which works perfectly. Today I built and installed the newly released xen-4.17.2. Now qemu-system-i386 crashes. 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Last month I built and installed xen-4.17.2pre > which works perfectly. Today I built and installed the newly released > xen-4.17.2. > Now qemu-system-i386 crashes. > > I attached an excerpt from the log. > Hmm. I am on Fedora 38, and they just pushed out the 4.17.2 update to me yesterday and qemu-system-i386 is working fine with it. This is the version info on Fedora 38 that is working: Xen version info from sudo xl dmesg on Fedora 38: (XEN) Xen version 4.17.2 (mockbuild@) (gcc (GCC) 13.2.1 20230728 (Red Hat 13.2.1-1)) debug=n Thu Aug 10 22:11:44 UTC 2023 Qemu version info on Fedora 38: [user@fedora ~]$ qemu-system-i386 -version QEMU emulator version 7.2.1 (qemu-7.2.1-2.fc38) Copyright (c) 2003-2022 Fabrice Bellard and the QEMU Project developers [user@fedora ~]$ So, I think maybe you are using a different Qemu version that does not work with Xen 4.17.2. What version of Qemu are you using? Is it the one from the qemu-xen repo on xenbits.xen.org, or one provided by Arch? In any case, Qemu 7.2.1 provided by Fedora works fine with the newly released Xen 4.17.2 on my Fedora 38 system. It looks like the Qemu for xenbits and tagged for Xen 4.17.x is using Qemu 7.0, not 7.2, and it looks like the Qemu on xenbits added 8 more commits between the 4.17.1 and 4.17.2 tags. So you might try backing out those 8 commits if you are building Qemu from the 4.17.2 tag in the qemu-xen repo on xenbits.xen.org. Just a guess, though. 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text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 10.07.2023 um 18:47 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: > On 7/4/2023 5:06 PM, Paul Leiber wrote: >> On 14/02/2023 8:31 AM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: >> > I am adding this information to complete the discussion of this >> > problem I reported several months ago: >> > >> > I discovered the cause of the problems of ovmf/uefi booting with more >> > recent Xen >> > versions - it is not a bug in Xen, but the problem occurs because >> > newer versions >> > of ovmf do not have Xen support in the OvmfPkgX64 target from edk2 >> and > the >> > Xen support is only available from the Xen-specific OvmfXen target >> > from edk2. >> > >> > The problem is discussed here on the Arch Linux forums: >> > >> > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2012659#p2012659 >> > >> > The last version that had the Xen support in the OvmfPkgX64 target was >> > edk2-stable202105, so for newer versions it is necessary to build and >> > use the >> > Xen-specific OVMF.fd firmware target to boot properly on Xen. >> > >> > After building using 'OvmfPkg/build.sh -p OvmfPkg/OvmfXen.dsc' as >> > explained >> > here: >> > >> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20190813113119.14804-1- >> > anthony.perard@xxxxxxxxxx/ >> > >> > from the edk2 source at https://github.com/tianocore/edk2 and using >> > the >> > resulting >> > OVMF.fd firmware target with Xen support to boot the Xen HVM guest, >> > the guest >> > works properly with versions of ovmf edk2-stable202108 and newer. >> > >> > Unfortunately distros such as Debian and Fedora don't provide the Xen >> > specific >> > target in their ovmf packages, so it is necessary to build it from >> > source for >> > ovmf >> > versions of edk2-stable202108 and newer. >> >> Thanks a lot for posting this, Chuck! It seems that I have run into this >> situation after upgrading from Debian Bullseye to Debian Bookworm. With >> standard packages, existing HVM DomUs using "firmware = 'ovmf'" (Windows >> Server 2022 and Windows 10) can't boot anymore. Booting these systems >> leads to the Windows error 0xc0000225. I wasn't able to fix this error. >> Booting an installation .iso leads to the same error. Booting the >> installation media with "firmware = 'bios'" leads to a normal boot. >> >> I tried building Ovmf following >> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20190813113119.14804-1-anthony.perard@citrix.com/#t >> , but I wasn't fully able to create a working system: >> >> (1) Using the resulting OVMF.fd from the build process with "firmware = >> '/path/to/new/OVMF.fd' led consistently to a black screen in VNC or >> Spice with the text "Guest has not initialized the display (yet)". >> >> (2) Replacing the OVMF.fd in /var/lib/ovmf with the freshly built >> OVMF.fd led to a slight improvement. I could then boot the Windows >> Server installation .iso, but booting the Windows 10 installation .iso >> lead to a crash where the TianoCore logo was visible, but nothing >> happened. The two existing DomUs were still not bootable. When trying to >> boot any of them, in Ovmf log appears an error "FATAL ERROR - RaiseTpl >> with OldTpl(0x1F) > NewTpl(0x10)". >> >> However, I am not sure that I followed the procedure correctly, I might >> very well have done something very wrong. Any pointers are welcome. >> >> My HVM config file: >> >> type = "hvm" >> memory = 6144 >> vcpus = 2 >> name = "kalliope" >> firmware = 'ovmf' >> firmware = '/usr/local/lib/ovmf/OVMF.fd' >> vif = ['bridge=xenbr0,mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX,ip=10.0.0.4'] >> disk = ['phy:/dev/vg0/matrix,hda,w'] >> device_model_version = 'qemu-xen' >> hdtype = 'ahci' >> pae = 1 >> acpi = 1 >> apic = 1 >> vga = 'stdvga' >> videoram = 16 >> xen_platform_pci = 1 >> vendor_device = 'xenserver' >> viridian = 1 >> on_crash = 'restart' >> device_model_args_hvm = [ >> # Debug OVMF >> '-chardev', 'file,id=debugcon,path=/var/log/xen/ovmf.log,', >> '-device', 'isa-debugcon,iobase=0x402,chardev=debugcon', >> ] >> sdl = 0 >> serial = 'pty' >> vnc = 1 >> vnclisten = "0.0.0.0" >> vncpasswd = "" >> >> >> There is a Debian bug report which seems to be related, I also described >> my situation there: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=978595 >> >> Paul >> > > Hi Paul, > > Your config looks OK to me, except that I have no pointers for a Windows guest. > I have a Windows HVM guest, but it uses BIOS / MBR instead of EFI / GPT so I > cannot easily reproduce your setup. I did not see any problems when using the > OVMF.fd file built for Xen in a bookworm dom0 according to Anthony's guide and > booting Linux HVM guests with EFI / GPT, so the problem might be that the graphics > for the Windows efi bootloader is not compatible with the efi implementation > that Xen uses (edk2 and Qemu with bochs vga) but the grub bootloader and > Linux graphics is compatible with the efi implementation for Xen HVM, but that is > just a guess. > > Someone with more expertise about booting Windows in the Qemu / edk2 / bochs > environment might be able to shed more light on the error you are seeing with > some of your Windows guests. IIRC, I think there are some discussions of this > problem on Qemu or Xen or edk2 mailing lists in past years and you might try > searching those mailing lists for clues to the problem and patches that might > fix it. > > Now, I have migrated my dom0 from Debian to Fedora since Fedora provides > an official ovmf-xen package now, but Debian still does not and I would have > to maintain it myself if I stayed with Debian. > > Kind regards, > > Chuck Hi Chuck, thanks for the reply, and sorry for the delay. I didn't have time yet to dig any deeper, but with some help I found a workaround I'd like to share. I could successfully start the Windows DomU with ovmf firmware after removing the current ovmf package and installing a previous ovmf package from Debian repositories, specifically version 2020.11-2+deb11u1. I'll continue to try to help getting this fixed in current Debian Bookworm packages. 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Once the channels have been created, further information will be > shared. > >     • New Mission Statement, goals, and purpose is attached to this email and will be shared publicly. > > Should anyone have any concerns or feedback, please let me know > > In embedded and automotive in particular one keyword that would be interesting to have is "Safety". > > We could add it in the mission statement and in the embedded technology goals: > - The project aims to enable innovation, scalability, safety and security in virtualization solutions. > - Transform embedded and automotive sectors with mature, safe and secure solutions. > > What do other think ? 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I'm Kelly, the Community Manager for The Xen Project. My role is to support everyone and make sure the project is healthy and thriving.  > > *The latest update below requires your attention:* > * > * > > * *We will be moving IRC channels fully to Matrix in September 2023. Once the channels have been created, further information will be shared. * > * *New Mission Statement, goals, and purpose is attached to this email and will be shared publicly.* > > *Should anyone have any concerns or feedback, please let me know* > > Many thanks, > Kelly Choi > > Open Source Community Manager, XenServer > Cloud Software Group This looks good, but I thought IBM rebranded Softlayer as IBM Cloud several years ago. Maybe IBM Softlayer should be changed to IBM Cloud? Thanks. Chuck From xen-users-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Fri Aug 18 23:42:26 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 23:42:26 +0000 Received: from list by lists.xenproject.org with outflank-mailman.586658.917906 (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qX96X-0003ng-TA; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 23:42:09 +0000 X-Outflank-Mailman: Message body and most headers restored to incoming version Received: by outflank-mailman (output) from mailman id 586658.917906; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 23:42:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xenproject.org) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qX96X-0003nX-QU; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 23:42:09 +0000 Received: by outflank-mailman (input) for mailman id 586658; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 23:42:07 +0000 Received: from se1-gles-sth1-in.inumbo.com ([159.253.27.254] helo=se1-gles-sth1.inumbo.com) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qX96V-0003nR-Ec for xen-users@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 23:42:07 +0000 Received: from mxout4.routing.net (mxout4.routing.net [2a03:2900:1:a::9]) by se1-gles-sth1.inumbo.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id d650735d-3e20-11ee-877e-cb3800f73035; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 01:42:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mxbox1.masterlogin.de (unknown [192.168.10.88]) by mxout4.routing.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6081012A7 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 23:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from naboo.starwars.lan (ip-149-172-185-079.um42.pools.vodafone-ip.de [149.172.185.79]) by mxbox1.masterlogin.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2F5AB404DF for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 23:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.154.119] (unknown [192.168.154.119]) by naboo.starwars.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61C1E61FCA for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 01:42:09 +0200 (CEST) X-BeenThere: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org List-Id: Xen user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: xen-users-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Precedence: list Sender: "Xen-users" X-Inumbo-ID: d650735d-3e20-11ee-877e-cb3800f73035 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mailerdienst.de; s=20200217; t=1692402124; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=rG+FZi1UAzp9jaRbzvNinv/nUQcsCPJg9gV5mZkyh9w=; b=ouVhHzyNIx6pe1FFh2WGXstGAhDjZpSNkUzYqHsw79J90UX7i4BXzrIXHuql3mpXtDSeoO jvF3jlza7JULWl2I2UEFW+2fHclPplH9TXxC840L517GW0lyjBnS5NABtjmkRISluTXlJ0 F8UHNvXAX/ifZ9Ugn9/WkZUoEHZmasw= Message-ID: <45bfceaf-bd21-c537-e8f5-b12b94c566bb@ska67.de> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 01:42:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Subject: Re: xen 4.17.2 qemu-system-i386 crashes Content-Language: de-DE To: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org References: <48365ac1-1779-ad64-ad83-32cd2d277821@netscape.net> From: xen@ska67.de In-Reply-To: <48365ac1-1779-ad64-ad83-32cd2d277821@netscape.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-ID: c6513970-f047-4337-93e9-a71f77b3786e Am 18.08.23 um 02:32 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: > On 8/17/23 7:22 PM, xen@ska67.de wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I am using Archlinux. Last month I built and installed xen-4.17.2pre >> which works perfectly. Today I built and installed the newly released >> xen-4.17.2. >> Now qemu-system-i386 crashes. >> >> I attached an excerpt from the log. >> > > Hmm. I am on Fedora 38, and they just pushed out the 4.17.2 update to me > yesterday and qemu-system-i386 is working fine with it. This is the version > info on Fedora 38 that is working: > > Xen version info from sudo xl dmesg on Fedora 38: > > (XEN) Xen version 4.17.2 (mockbuild@) (gcc (GCC) 13.2.1 20230728 (Red Hat 13.2.1-1)) debug=n Thu Aug 10 22:11:44 UTC 2023 > > Qemu version info on Fedora 38: > > [user@fedora ~]$ qemu-system-i386 -version > QEMU emulator version 7.2.1 (qemu-7.2.1-2.fc38) > Copyright (c) 2003-2022 Fabrice Bellard and the QEMU Project developers > [user@fedora ~]$ > > So, I think maybe you are using a different Qemu version that does not > work with Xen 4.17.2. Xen 4.17.2pre runs on this hardware with both Qemu 8.0.2 and Qemu 8.0.4 without problems. On older hardware (Intel Haswell processor) Xen 4.17.2 runs without problems with Qemu 8.0.4. Obviously only my newer hardware is affected. > What version of Qemu are you using? Is it the one from the qemu-xen repo on > xenbits.xen.org, or one provided by Arch? In any case, Qemu 7.2.1 provided > by Fedora works fine with the newly released Xen 4.17.2 on my Fedora 38 system. I use an AUR package that compiles the latest Qemu from the upstream sources. > It looks like the Qemu for xenbits and tagged for Xen 4.17.x is using Qemu 7.0, > not 7.2, and it looks like the Qemu on xenbits added 8 more commits between the > 4.17.1 and 4.17.2 tags. 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Last month I built and installed xen-4.17.2pre >>> which works perfectly. Today I built and installed the newly released >>> xen-4.17.2. >>> Now qemu-system-i386 crashes. >>> >>> I attached an excerpt from the log. >>> >> >> Hmm. I am on Fedora 38, and they just pushed out the 4.17.2 update to me >> yesterday and qemu-system-i386 is working fine with it. This is the version >> info on Fedora 38 that is working: >> >> Xen version info from sudo xl dmesg on Fedora 38: >> >> (XEN) Xen version 4.17.2 (mockbuild@) (gcc (GCC) 13.2.1 20230728 (Red Hat 13.2.1-1)) debug=n Thu Aug 10 22:11:44 UTC 2023 >> >> Qemu version info on Fedora 38: >> >> [user@fedora ~]$ qemu-system-i386 -version >> QEMU emulator version 7.2.1 (qemu-7.2.1-2.fc38) >> Copyright (c) 2003-2022 Fabrice Bellard and the QEMU Project developers >> [user@fedora ~]$ >> >> So, I think maybe you are using a different Qemu version that does not >> work with Xen 4.17.2. With the new data this suggestion I made yesterday seems wrong now. > > Xen 4.17.2pre runs on this hardware with both Qemu 8.0.2 and Qemu 8.0.4 > without problems> > On older hardware (Intel Haswell processor) Xen 4.17.2 runs without > problems with Qemu 8.0.4. Obviously only my newer hardware is affected. My working result is also on older hardware (Intel Haswell processor) so we agree the problem you are seeing is related to newer hardware. It might help to mention the model of processor in your newer hardware. Unfortunately I do not have newer hardware to test my Qemu 7.2.x with Xen 4.17.2 so I won't be able to help you out much any more. (Today Fedora pushed out Qemu 7.2.4 to me and that also works fine with Xen 4.17.2 on the Haswell processor). With this additional data it seems the changes in Xen (not changes in Qemu) are causing the core dump in Qemu on the newer hardware. If no one here on xen-users has any ideas you might try posting this bug on the xen-devel mailing list instead. Mention Haswell always works, but something goes bad with Qemu when upgrading from 4.17.2pre to 4.17.2 on the newer hardware, and mention the model of processor of the newer hardware and the excerpt from the journal, and maybe some of the developers can help you troubleshoot the problem. There presumably are not a lot of changes between Xen 4.17.2pre and 4.17.2 so hopefully the developers can find the problem and fix it for the next release. > >> What version of Qemu are you using? Is it the one from the qemu-xen repo on >> xenbits.xen.org, or one provided by Arch? In any case, Qemu 7.2.1 provided >> by Fedora works fine with the newly released Xen 4.17.2 on my Fedora 38 system. > > I use an AUR package that compiles the latest Qemu from the upstream > sources. > Ok, it's not caused by any changes in the qemu-xen repo on xenbits.xen.org then. 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Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.14.0 Subject: Re: Xen Ovmf/UEFI HVM error after upgrade to Debian Bookworm (was: xen ovmf/uefi firmware does not save screen resolution) Content-Language: en-US To: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org References: <83a94ee6-6fcd-204a-7b8d-b89858d7831d@netscape.net> <1d552677-b2a4-a009-d62d-57173264d3b4@onlineschubla.de> From: Chuck Zmudzinski In-Reply-To: <1d552677-b2a4-a009-d62d-57173264d3b4@onlineschubla.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21732 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.aol Content-Length: 6767 On 8/18/2023 9:18 AM, Paul Leiber wrote: > Am 10.07.2023 um 18:47 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: >> On 7/4/2023 5:06 PM, Paul Leiber wrote: >>> On 14/02/2023 8:31 AM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: >>> > I am adding this information to complete the discussion of this >>> > problem I reported several months ago: >>> > >>> > I discovered the cause of the problems of ovmf/uefi booting with more >>> > recent Xen >>> > versions - it is not a bug in Xen, but the problem occurs because >>> > newer versions >>> > of ovmf do not have Xen support in the OvmfPkgX64 target from edk2 >>> and > the >>> > Xen support is only available from the Xen-specific OvmfXen target >>> > from edk2. >>> > >>> > The problem is discussed here on the Arch Linux forums: >>> > >>> > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2012659#p2012659 >>> > >>> > The last version that had the Xen support in the OvmfPkgX64 target was >>> > edk2-stable202105, so for newer versions it is necessary to build and >>> > use the >>> > Xen-specific OVMF.fd firmware target to boot properly on Xen. >>> > >>> > After building using 'OvmfPkg/build.sh -p OvmfPkg/OvmfXen.dsc' as >>> > explained >>> > here: >>> > >>> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20190813113119.14804-1- >>> > anthony.perard@xxxxxxxxxx/ >>> > >>> > from the edk2 source at https://github.com/tianocore/edk2 and using >>> > the >>> > resulting >>> > OVMF.fd firmware target with Xen support to boot the Xen HVM guest, >>> > the guest >>> > works properly with versions of ovmf edk2-stable202108 and newer. >>> > >>> > Unfortunately distros such as Debian and Fedora don't provide the Xen >>> > specific >>> > target in their ovmf packages, so it is necessary to build it from >>> > source for >>> > ovmf >>> > versions of edk2-stable202108 and newer. >>> >>> Thanks a lot for posting this, Chuck! It seems that I have run into this >>> situation after upgrading from Debian Bullseye to Debian Bookworm. With >>> standard packages, existing HVM DomUs using "firmware = 'ovmf'" (Windows >>> Server 2022 and Windows 10) can't boot anymore. Booting these systems >>> leads to the Windows error 0xc0000225. I wasn't able to fix this error. >>> Booting an installation .iso leads to the same error. Booting the >>> installation media with "firmware = 'bios'" leads to a normal boot. >>> >>> I tried building Ovmf following >>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20190813113119.14804-1-anthony.perard@citrix.com/#t >>> , but I wasn't fully able to create a working system: >>> >>> (1) Using the resulting OVMF.fd from the build process with "firmware = >>> '/path/to/new/OVMF.fd' led consistently to a black screen in VNC or >>> Spice with the text "Guest has not initialized the display (yet)". >>> >>> (2) Replacing the OVMF.fd in /var/lib/ovmf with the freshly built >>> OVMF.fd led to a slight improvement. I could then boot the Windows >>> Server installation .iso, but booting the Windows 10 installation .iso >>> lead to a crash where the TianoCore logo was visible, but nothing >>> happened. The two existing DomUs were still not bootable. When trying to >>> boot any of them, in Ovmf log appears an error "FATAL ERROR - RaiseTpl >>> with OldTpl(0x1F) > NewTpl(0x10)". >>> >>> However, I am not sure that I followed the procedure correctly, I might >>> very well have done something very wrong. Any pointers are welcome. >>> >>> My HVM config file: >>> >>> type = "hvm" >>> memory = 6144 >>> vcpus = 2 >>> name = "kalliope" >>> firmware = 'ovmf' >>> firmware = '/usr/local/lib/ovmf/OVMF.fd' >>> vif = ['bridge=xenbr0,mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX,ip=10.0.0.4'] >>> disk = ['phy:/dev/vg0/matrix,hda,w'] >>> device_model_version = 'qemu-xen' >>> hdtype = 'ahci' >>> pae = 1 >>> acpi = 1 >>> apic = 1 >>> vga = 'stdvga' >>> videoram = 16 >>> xen_platform_pci = 1 >>> vendor_device = 'xenserver' >>> viridian = 1 >>> on_crash = 'restart' >>> device_model_args_hvm = [ >>> # Debug OVMF >>> '-chardev', 'file,id=debugcon,path=/var/log/xen/ovmf.log,', >>> '-device', 'isa-debugcon,iobase=0x402,chardev=debugcon', >>> ] >>> sdl = 0 >>> serial = 'pty' >>> vnc = 1 >>> vnclisten = "0.0.0.0" >>> vncpasswd = "" >>> >>> >>> There is a Debian bug report which seems to be related, I also described >>> my situation there: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=978595 >>> >>> Paul >>> >> >> Hi Paul, >> >> Your config looks OK to me, except that I have no pointers for a Windows guest. >> I have a Windows HVM guest, but it uses BIOS / MBR instead of EFI / GPT so I >> cannot easily reproduce your setup. I did not see any problems when using the >> OVMF.fd file built for Xen in a bookworm dom0 according to Anthony's guide and >> booting Linux HVM guests with EFI / GPT, so the problem might be that the graphics >> for the Windows efi bootloader is not compatible with the efi implementation >> that Xen uses (edk2 and Qemu with bochs vga) but the grub bootloader and >> Linux graphics is compatible with the efi implementation for Xen HVM, but that is >> just a guess. >> >> Someone with more expertise about booting Windows in the Qemu / edk2 / bochs >> environment might be able to shed more light on the error you are seeing with >> some of your Windows guests. IIRC, I think there are some discussions of this >> problem on Qemu or Xen or edk2 mailing lists in past years and you might try >> searching those mailing lists for clues to the problem and patches that might >> fix it. >> >> Now, I have migrated my dom0 from Debian to Fedora since Fedora provides >> an official ovmf-xen package now, but Debian still does not and I would have >> to maintain it myself if I stayed with Debian. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Chuck > > Hi Chuck, > > thanks for the reply, and sorry for the delay. I didn't have time yet to > dig any deeper, but with some help I found a workaround I'd like to > share. I could successfully start the Windows DomU with ovmf firmware > after removing the current ovmf package and installing a previous ovmf > package from Debian repositories, specifically version 2020.11-2+deb11u1. > > I'll continue to try to help getting this fixed in current Debian > Bookworm packages. It should just be a matter of filing a bug report on the Debian BTS against the edk2 package and asking them to add an ovmf-xen package that contains the OVMF.fd firmware with support for Xen and install it where the Debian xl tools can find it. 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 19.08.2023 um 05:27 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: > On 8/18/2023 9:18 AM, Paul Leiber wrote: >> Am 10.07.2023 um 18:47 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: >>> On 7/4/2023 5:06 PM, Paul Leiber wrote: >>>> On 14/02/2023 8:31 AM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: >>>> > I am adding this information to complete the discussion of this >>>> > problem I reported several months ago: >>>> > >>>> > I discovered the cause of the problems of ovmf/uefi booting with more >>>> > recent Xen >>>> > versions - it is not a bug in Xen, but the problem occurs because >>>> > newer versions >>>> > of ovmf do not have Xen support in the OvmfPkgX64 target from edk2 >>>> and > the >>>> > Xen support is only available from the Xen-specific OvmfXen target >>>> > from edk2. >>>> > >>>> > The problem is discussed here on the Arch Linux forums: >>>> > >>>> > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2012659#p2012659 >>>> > >>>> > The last version that had the Xen support in the OvmfPkgX64 target was >>>> > edk2-stable202105, so for newer versions it is necessary to build and >>>> > use the >>>> > Xen-specific OVMF.fd firmware target to boot properly on Xen. >>>> > >>>> > After building using 'OvmfPkg/build.sh -p OvmfPkg/OvmfXen.dsc' as >>>> > explained >>>> > here: >>>> > >>>> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20190813113119.14804-1- >>>> > anthony.perard@xxxxxxxxxx/ >>>> > >>>> > from the edk2 source at https://github.com/tianocore/edk2 and using >>>> > the >>>> > resulting >>>> > OVMF.fd firmware target with Xen support to boot the Xen HVM guest, >>>> > the guest >>>> > works properly with versions of ovmf edk2-stable202108 and newer. >>>> > >>>> > Unfortunately distros such as Debian and Fedora don't provide the Xen >>>> > specific >>>> > target in their ovmf packages, so it is necessary to build it from >>>> > source for >>>> > ovmf >>>> > versions of edk2-stable202108 and newer. >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot for posting this, Chuck! It seems that I have run into this >>>> situation after upgrading from Debian Bullseye to Debian Bookworm. With >>>> standard packages, existing HVM DomUs using "firmware = 'ovmf'" (Windows >>>> Server 2022 and Windows 10) can't boot anymore. Booting these systems >>>> leads to the Windows error 0xc0000225. I wasn't able to fix this error. >>>> Booting an installation .iso leads to the same error. Booting the >>>> installation media with "firmware = 'bios'" leads to a normal boot. >>>> >>>> I tried building Ovmf following >>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20190813113119.14804-1-anthony.perard@citrix.com/#t >>>> , but I wasn't fully able to create a working system: >>>> >>>> (1) Using the resulting OVMF.fd from the build process with "firmware = >>>> '/path/to/new/OVMF.fd' led consistently to a black screen in VNC or >>>> Spice with the text "Guest has not initialized the display (yet)". >>>> >>>> (2) Replacing the OVMF.fd in /var/lib/ovmf with the freshly built >>>> OVMF.fd led to a slight improvement. I could then boot the Windows >>>> Server installation .iso, but booting the Windows 10 installation .iso >>>> lead to a crash where the TianoCore logo was visible, but nothing >>>> happened. The two existing DomUs were still not bootable. When trying to >>>> boot any of them, in Ovmf log appears an error "FATAL ERROR - RaiseTpl >>>> with OldTpl(0x1F) > NewTpl(0x10)". >>>> >>>> However, I am not sure that I followed the procedure correctly, I might >>>> very well have done something very wrong. Any pointers are welcome. >>>> >>>> My HVM config file: >>>> >>>> type = "hvm" >>>> memory = 6144 >>>> vcpus = 2 >>>> name = "kalliope" >>>> firmware = 'ovmf' >>>> firmware = '/usr/local/lib/ovmf/OVMF.fd' >>>> vif = ['bridge=xenbr0,mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX,ip=10.0.0.4'] >>>> disk = ['phy:/dev/vg0/matrix,hda,w'] >>>> device_model_version = 'qemu-xen' >>>> hdtype = 'ahci' >>>> pae = 1 >>>> acpi = 1 >>>> apic = 1 >>>> vga = 'stdvga' >>>> videoram = 16 >>>> xen_platform_pci = 1 >>>> vendor_device = 'xenserver' >>>> viridian = 1 >>>> on_crash = 'restart' >>>> device_model_args_hvm = [ >>>> # Debug OVMF >>>> '-chardev', 'file,id=debugcon,path=/var/log/xen/ovmf.log,', >>>> '-device', 'isa-debugcon,iobase=0x402,chardev=debugcon', >>>> ] >>>> sdl = 0 >>>> serial = 'pty' >>>> vnc = 1 >>>> vnclisten = "0.0.0.0" >>>> vncpasswd = "" >>>> >>>> >>>> There is a Debian bug report which seems to be related, I also described >>>> my situation there: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=978595 >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> Your config looks OK to me, except that I have no pointers for a Windows guest. >>> I have a Windows HVM guest, but it uses BIOS / MBR instead of EFI / GPT so I >>> cannot easily reproduce your setup. I did not see any problems when using the >>> OVMF.fd file built for Xen in a bookworm dom0 according to Anthony's guide and >>> booting Linux HVM guests with EFI / GPT, so the problem might be that the graphics >>> for the Windows efi bootloader is not compatible with the efi implementation >>> that Xen uses (edk2 and Qemu with bochs vga) but the grub bootloader and >>> Linux graphics is compatible with the efi implementation for Xen HVM, but that is >>> just a guess. >>> >>> Someone with more expertise about booting Windows in the Qemu / edk2 / bochs >>> environment might be able to shed more light on the error you are seeing with >>> some of your Windows guests. IIRC, I think there are some discussions of this >>> problem on Qemu or Xen or edk2 mailing lists in past years and you might try >>> searching those mailing lists for clues to the problem and patches that might >>> fix it. >>> >>> Now, I have migrated my dom0 from Debian to Fedora since Fedora provides >>> an official ovmf-xen package now, but Debian still does not and I would have >>> to maintain it myself if I stayed with Debian. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Chuck >> >> Hi Chuck, >> >> thanks for the reply, and sorry for the delay. I didn't have time yet to >> dig any deeper, but with some help I found a workaround I'd like to >> share. I could successfully start the Windows DomU with ovmf firmware >> after removing the current ovmf package and installing a previous ovmf >> package from Debian repositories, specifically version 2020.11-2+deb11u1. >> >> I'll continue to try to help getting this fixed in current Debian >> Bookworm packages. > > It should just be a matter of filing a bug report on the Debian BTS > against the edk2 package and asking them to add an ovmf-xen package > that contains the OVMF.fd firmware with support for Xen and install > it where the Debian xl tools can find it. You might explain in the > bug report that, according to the upstream edk2 project, a separate > build of the firmware is needed to support Xen in versions > edk2-stable202108 and newer as explained in the upstream bug report: > > https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2122 > The bug is filed (against ovmf package): https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1050030 Thanks for the assistance so far! 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boundary="0000000000003555b706036d1877" --0000000000003555b706036d1877 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Chuck, Thanks for your feedback and highlighting this to me. You're correct, they did rebrand so I will update this to 'IBM Cloud'. Many thanks, Kelly Choi Open Source Community Manager, XenServer Cloud Software Group On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 12:34=E2=80=AFAM Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > On 8/18/2023 6:55 AM, Kelly Choi wrote: > > Hi everyone! :) > > > > I hope you're all well. > > > > If we haven't met before, I'd like to introduce myself. I'm Kelly, the > Community Manager for The Xen Project. My role is to support everyone and > make sure the project is healthy and thriving. > > > > *The latest update below requires your attention:* > > * > > * > > > > * *We will be moving IRC channels fully to Matrix in September 2023. > Once the channels have been created, further information will be shared. = * > > * *New Mission Statement, goals, and purpose is attached to this emai= l > and will be shared publicly.* > > > > *Should anyone have any concerns or feedback, please let me know* > > > > Many thanks, > > Kelly Choi > > > > Open Source Community Manager, XenServer > > Cloud Software Group > > This looks good, but I thought IBM rebranded Softlayer as IBM Cloud > several years ago. Maybe IBM Softlayer should be changed to IBM Cloud? > Thanks. > > Chuck > --0000000000003555b706036d1877 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Chuck,

Thanks for your feedback and= highlighting this to me.=C2=A0
You're correct, they did rebr= and so I will update this to 'IBM Cloud'.

Many thanks,
Kelly Choi

Open Source Communit= y Manager, XenServer
Cloud Softw= are Group


On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 12= :34=E2=80=AFAM Chuck Zmudzinski <brchuckz@netscape.net> wrote:
On 8/18/2023 6:55 AM, Kelly Choi wrote:
> Hi everyone! :)=C2=A0
>
> I hope you're all well.=C2=A0
>
> If we haven't met before, I'd like to introduce myself. I'= m Kelly, the Community=C2=A0Manager for The Xen Project. My role is to supp= ort everyone and make sure the project is healthy and thriving.=C2=A0
>
> *The latest update below requires your attention:*
> *
> *
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0* *We will be moving IRC channels fully to Matrix in Septe= mber 2023. Once the channels have been created, further information will be= shared.=C2=A0*
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0* *New Mission Statement, goals, and purpose is attached t= o this email and will be shared publicly.*
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> *Should anyone have any concerns or feedback, please=C2=A0let me know*=
>
> Many thanks,
> Kelly Choi
>
> Open Source Community Manager, XenServer
> Cloud Software Group

This looks good, but I thought IBM rebranded Softlayer as IBM Cloud several= years ago. Maybe IBM Softlayer should be changed to IBM Cloud? Thanks.

Chuck
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On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 9:12=E2=80=AF= PM CamZie <camzie@protonmail.co= m> wrote:
Hello,=
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We are having problems booting Ubuntu 20.04 installation with the newest k= ernel "5.4.0-156-generic" on our Ganeti (Xen) server= .
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We get the following error message everytime we boot the newest kernel:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0error: not xen image.
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0error: you need to load the kernel first.
<= /blockquote>

Where are you seeing this error message?=C2= =A0 I don't see either of those strings anywhere in the xen.git tree.

=C2=A0-George
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Last month I built and installed xen-4.17.2pre >>>> which works perfectly. Today I built and installed the newly released >>>> xen-4.17.2. >>>> Now qemu-system-i386 crashes. >>>> >>>> I attached an excerpt from the log. >>>> >>> >>> Hmm. I am on Fedora 38, and they just pushed out the 4.17.2 update to me >>> yesterday and qemu-system-i386 is working fine with it. This is the version >>> info on Fedora 38 that is working: >>> >>> Xen version info from sudo xl dmesg on Fedora 38: >>> >>> (XEN) Xen version 4.17.2 (mockbuild@) (gcc (GCC) 13.2.1 20230728 (Red Hat 13.2.1-1)) debug=n Thu Aug 10 22:11:44 UTC 2023 >>> >>> Qemu version info on Fedora 38: >>> >>> [user@fedora ~]$ qemu-system-i386 -version >>> QEMU emulator version 7.2.1 (qemu-7.2.1-2.fc38) >>> Copyright (c) 2003-2022 Fabrice Bellard and the QEMU Project developers >>> [user@fedora ~]$ >>> >>> So, I think maybe you are using a different Qemu version that does not >>> work with Xen 4.17.2. > > With the new data this suggestion I made yesterday seems wrong now. > >> >> Xen 4.17.2pre runs on this hardware with both Qemu 8.0.2 and Qemu 8.0.4 >> without problems> >> On older hardware (Intel Haswell processor) Xen 4.17.2 runs without >> problems with Qemu 8.0.4. Obviously only my newer hardware is affected. > > My working result is also on older hardware (Intel Haswell processor) so > we agree the problem you are seeing is related to newer hardware. It > might help to mention the model of processor in your newer hardware. > > Unfortunately I do not have newer hardware to test my Qemu 7.2.x with > Xen 4.17.2 so I won't be able to help you out much any more. (Today > Fedora pushed out Qemu 7.2.4 to me and that also works fine with Xen 4.17.2 > on the Haswell processor). > > With this additional data it seems the changes in Xen (not changes in Qemu) > are causing the core dump in Qemu on the newer hardware. If no one here > on xen-users has any ideas you might try posting this bug on the xen-devel > mailing list instead. Mention Haswell always works, but something goes > bad with Qemu when upgrading from 4.17.2pre to 4.17.2 on the newer > hardware, and mention the model of processor of the newer hardware and > the excerpt from the journal, and maybe some of the developers can help > you troubleshoot the problem. There presumably are not a lot of changes > between Xen 4.17.2pre and 4.17.2 so hopefully the developers can find the > problem and fix it for the next release. To follow up, I just checked the shortlog of the 4.17 branch on xenbits.xen.org: https://xenbits.xen.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/stable-4.17 and there are I think 80 commits (give or take a few) between the 4.17.2pre version commit and the 4.17.2 release. So you should be able to bisect and find the offending commit that is causing qemu-system-i386 to crash on your newer hardware, but it may take a few builds to narrow it down with about 80 commits to check. If you find the offending commit, I suggest you report it on the xen-devel mailing list so the developers can diagnose the cause and find a solution. From xen-users-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Mon Aug 21 23:15:15 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:15:15 +0000 Received: from list by lists.xenproject.org with outflank-mailman.587910.919318 (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qYE6M-000562-Lv; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:14:26 +0000 X-Outflank-Mailman: Message body and most headers restored to incoming version Received: by outflank-mailman (output) from mailman id 587910.919318; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:14:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xenproject.org) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qYE6M-00055u-J8; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:14:26 +0000 Received: by outflank-mailman (input) for mailman id 587910; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:14:26 +0000 Received: from se1-gles-sth1-in.inumbo.com ([159.253.27.254] helo=se1-gles-sth1.inumbo.com) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qYE6L-00055o-Lp for xen-users@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:14:25 +0000 Received: from mxout2.routing.net (mxout2.routing.net [2a03:2900:1:a::b]) by se1-gles-sth1.inumbo.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id 7681925b-4078-11ee-8782-cb3800f73035; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 01:14:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mxbox4.masterlogin.de (unknown [192.168.10.79]) by mxout2.routing.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF0361600 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from naboo.starwars.lan (ip-134-003-139-115.um41.pools.vodafone-ip.de [134.3.139.115]) by mxbox4.masterlogin.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33FB58075B for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.154.119] (unknown [192.168.154.119]) by naboo.starwars.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3121A60C59 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 01:14:21 +0200 (CEST) X-BeenThere: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org List-Id: Xen user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: xen-users-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Precedence: list Sender: "Xen-users" X-Inumbo-ID: 7681925b-4078-11ee-8782-cb3800f73035 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mailerdienst.de; s=20200217; t=1692659661; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=fRDQX49TRE7qXYpTjz8FZ21n5uDGngRGZfSBKJ+DnBM=; b=GyKI7ad/9Cu2FhBnpNCLbQ8nAGyOYMYJE5ESkZObY9paIvRJWMjcM7/C9/rv9OTzyphmCT qepRX0qD5/Jp9ypRCC73nsXTwGemiQFyIyOFlI2L+fQwXQcLVNsg2btQDHUtOcnOLnro6Z 3TE1JK9EhxewiicLJxBR1vbtuTqaT1I= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 01:14:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Subject: Re: xen 4.17.2 qemu-system-i386 crashes Content-Language: de-DE To: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org References: <48365ac1-1779-ad64-ad83-32cd2d277821@netscape.net> <45bfceaf-bd21-c537-e8f5-b12b94c566bb@ska67.de> <353a7fb5-6b0a-5ec6-d0d2-b91fe64e4fb5@netscape.net> <6507b397-ed0c-dcc8-3b4a-7b828839a612@netscape.net> From: xen@ska67.de In-Reply-To: <6507b397-ed0c-dcc8-3b4a-7b828839a612@netscape.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-ID: d98561b6-4314-4df9-833e-b4cda29d10da Am 21.08.23 um 22:15 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: > On 8/18/2023 10:49 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: >> On 8/18/2023 7:42 PM, xen@ska67.de wrote: >>> Am 18.08.23 um 02:32 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: >>>> On 8/17/23 7:22 PM, xen@ska67.de wrote: >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I am using Archlinux. Last month I built and installed xen-4.17.2pre >>>>> which works perfectly. Today I built and installed the newly released >>>>> xen-4.17.2. >>>>> Now qemu-system-i386 crashes. >>>>> >>>>> I attached an excerpt from the log. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hmm. I am on Fedora 38, and they just pushed out the 4.17.2 update to me >>>> yesterday and qemu-system-i386 is working fine with it. This is the version >>>> info on Fedora 38 that is working: >>>> >>>> Xen version info from sudo xl dmesg on Fedora 38: >>>> >>>> (XEN) Xen version 4.17.2 (mockbuild@) (gcc (GCC) 13.2.1 20230728 (Red Hat 13.2.1-1)) debug=n Thu Aug 10 22:11:44 UTC 2023 >>>> >>>> Qemu version info on Fedora 38: >>>> >>>> [user@fedora ~]$ qemu-system-i386 -version >>>> QEMU emulator version 7.2.1 (qemu-7.2.1-2.fc38) >>>> Copyright (c) 2003-2022 Fabrice Bellard and the QEMU Project developers >>>> [user@fedora ~]$ >>>> >>>> So, I think maybe you are using a different Qemu version that does not >>>> work with Xen 4.17.2. >> >> With the new data this suggestion I made yesterday seems wrong now. >> >>> >>> Xen 4.17.2pre runs on this hardware with both Qemu 8.0.2 and Qemu 8.0.4 >>> without problems> >>> On older hardware (Intel Haswell processor) Xen 4.17.2 runs without >>> problems with Qemu 8.0.4. Obviously only my newer hardware is affected. >> >> My working result is also on older hardware (Intel Haswell processor) so >> we agree the problem you are seeing is related to newer hardware. It >> might help to mention the model of processor in your newer hardware. It is an Intel i9 Coffee Lake processor. >> Unfortunately I do not have newer hardware to test my Qemu 7.2.x with >> Xen 4.17.2 so I won't be able to help you out much any more. (Today >> Fedora pushed out Qemu 7.2.4 to me and that also works fine with Xen 4.17.2 >> on the Haswell processor). >> >> With this additional data it seems the changes in Xen (not changes in Qemu) >> are causing the core dump in Qemu on the newer hardware. If no one here >> on xen-users has any ideas you might try posting this bug on the xen-devel >> mailing list instead. Mention Haswell always works, but something goes >> bad with Qemu when upgrading from 4.17.2pre to 4.17.2 on the newer >> hardware, and mention the model of processor of the newer hardware and >> the excerpt from the journal, and maybe some of the developers can help >> you troubleshoot the problem. There presumably are not a lot of changes >> between Xen 4.17.2pre and 4.17.2 so hopefully the developers can find the >> problem and fix it for the next release. > > To follow up, I just checked the shortlog of the 4.17 branch on xenbits.xen.org: > > https://xenbits.xen.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/stable-4.17 > > and there are I think 80 commits (give or take a few) between the 4.17.2pre > version commit and the 4.17.2 release. So you should be able to bisect and > find the offending commit that is causing qemu-system-i386 to crash on your > newer hardware, but it may take a few builds to narrow it down with about > 80 commits to check. If you find the offending commit, I suggest you report > it on the xen-devel mailing list so the developers can diagnose the cause > and find a solution. I will try with git bisect, but of course this takes some time. 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I don't see either of those > strings anywhere in the xen.git tree. That error is coming from the Xen PV support in grub ("pvgrub"). It doesn't support any of the advanced kernel compression formats like LZ4 or ZSTD, so distributions like Ubuntu which went to LZ4 and later ZSTD are not bootable using pvgrub. So this is a (Xen PV support in) grub issue, not a Xen upstream issue. It's been quite a few years now and it doesn't look like anyone is interested in adding support to pvgrub for these kernel compression methods. If possible OP should switch to PVH mode; pvhgrub seems to be done a different (better?) way which makes use of other parts of grub for loading kernels, so it supports whatever grub upstream supports. LZ4 and ZSTD kernels are no problem there. OP already discovered that extracting an uncompressed kernel out of the domU kernel image does work, so that is the sort of thing that will need to be done to boot these kernels if OP wants to continue booting with pvgrub. 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The reason for such a change is to improve communication and synchronization of messages which members of I= RC have had issues with previously. Please join using the following links: 1. XenProject: https://matrix.to/#/#XenProject:matrix.org 2. XenDevel: https://matrix.to/#/#XenDevel:matrix.org 3. XenSocial: https://matrix.to/#/#XenSocial:matrix.org - IBM Softlayer wording has been updated to IBM Cloud - The addition of the words 'safe' and 'safety' are to be added to the Xen project goals and purpose, which will shortly be reflected on the website: - The project aims to enable innovation, scalability, safety, and security in virtualization solutions. - Transform embedded and automotive sectors with mature, safe, and secure solutions. Many thanks, Kelly Choi Open Source Community Manager, XenServer Cloud Software Group On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 11:55=E2=80=AFAM Kelly Choi = wrote: > Hi everyone! :) > > I hope you're all well. > > If we haven't met before, I'd like to introduce myself. I'm Kelly, the > Community Manager for The Xen Project. My role is to support everyone and > make sure the project is healthy and thriving. > > *The latest update below requires your attention:* > > > - *We will be moving IRC channels fully to Matrix in September 2023. > Once the channels have been created, further information will be share= d. * > - *New Mission Statement, goals, and purpose is attached to this email > and will be shared publicly.* > > *Should anyone have any concerns or feedback, please let me know* > > Many thanks, > Kelly Choi > > Open Source Community Manager, XenServer > Cloud Software Group > --0000000000008c5de70603bcbb6e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,

Thank you= for your feedback so far.
  • With no objections from the co= mmunity - New Matrix only channels are now available to join. The reason fo= r such a change is to improve=C2=A0communication and synchronization of mes= sages which members of IRC have had issues with previously.=C2=A0
=
Please join using the following links:
  1. XenProject:=C2=A0https://matrix.to/#/#XenProject:matrix.org=C2=A0<= /li>
  2. XenDevel:=C2=A0https://matrix.to/#/#XenDevel:matrix.org
  3. X= enSocial:=C2=A0https://matrix.to/#/#XenSocial:matrix.org
<= ul>
  • IBM Softlayer wording has been updated to IBM Cloud
  • The addi= tion of the words 'safe' and 'safety' are to be added to th= e Xen project goals and purpose, which will shortly be reflected on the web= site:=C2=A0
    • The project aims to enable innovation, scalability,= safety, and security in virtualization solu= tions.
    • Transform embedded and automotive sectors with mature, safe, and secure solutions.
    <= div>
    M= any thanks,
    Kelly Choi

    Open Source Community Manager, XenServer
    Cloud Software Group
    <= /div>

    On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 11:55=E2=80=AFAM Kelly Choi <kelly.choi@cloud.com= > wrote:
    =
    Hi everyone! :)=C2=A0

    I hope you're= all well.=C2=A0

    If we haven't met before, I&#= 39;d like to introduce myself. I'm Kelly, the Community=C2=A0Manager fo= r The Xen Project. My role is to support everyone and make sure the project= is healthy and thriving.=C2=A0

    The latest upda= te below requires your attention:

      <= li>We will be moving IRC channels fully to Matrix in September 2023. Onc= e the channels have been created, further information will be shared.=C2=A0=
    • New Mission Statement, goals, and purpose is attached to th= is email and will be shared publicly.
    Should anyone ha= ve any concerns or feedback, please=C2=A0let me know
    Many thanks,
    Kelly Choi

    Open Source Community Manager, XenServer
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    --0000000000008c5de70603bcbb6e-- From xen-users-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Sun Aug 27 12:11:29 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Sun, 27 Aug 2023 12:11:29 +0000 Received: from list by lists.xenproject.org with outflank-mailman.591151.923536 (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qaEaZ-0006my-Hy; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 12:09:55 +0000 X-Outflank-Mailman: Message body and most headers restored to incoming version Received: by outflank-mailman (output) from mailman id 591151.923536; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 12:09:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xenproject.org) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qaEaZ-0006mp-ED; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 12:09:55 +0000 Received: by outflank-mailman (input) for mailman id 591151; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 12:09:53 +0000 Received: from se1-gles-sth1-in.inumbo.com ([159.253.27.254] helo=se1-gles-sth1.inumbo.com) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qaEaX-0006lx-24 for xen-users@lists.xenproject.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 12:09:53 +0000 Received: from mxout1.routing.net (mxout1.routing.net [2a03:2900:1:a::a]) by se1-gles-sth1.inumbo.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id 9e76894f-44d2-11ee-8783-cb3800f73035; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 14:09:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mxbox4.masterlogin.de (unknown [192.168.10.79]) by mxout1.routing.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED8440280 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 12:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from naboo.starwars.lan (ip-149-172-185-140.um42.pools.vodafone-ip.de [149.172.185.140]) by mxbox4.masterlogin.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E2BED80704 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 12:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.154.119] (unknown [192.168.154.119]) by naboo.starwars.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27A6D61C76 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 14:09:50 +0200 (CEST) X-BeenThere: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org List-Id: Xen user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: xen-users-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Precedence: list Sender: "Xen-users" X-Inumbo-ID: 9e76894f-44d2-11ee-8783-cb3800f73035 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mailerdienst.de; s=20200217; t=1693138188; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=DjIspHYONT6XyhuMLkTAP4HFNkJOjfJ1aBkzdKmTTmA=; b=sihGTjypodh94F76PFtA0HpEPkqR9xhIoZLNl6eo8PLZooGEjCFplzGxfzKq+HSJDybnJf 8Q/lcauaO5cOhUOvxIXxqCCVlGqsj+aF01rgcGdW+DRBfgs5ZX8tV0Czqo3/XGRxHy5U9/ aVuAWRjll9Xn1VwUgufS8uP1ol7+C70= Message-ID: <039c7b55-0f6f-6c23-d27c-dbf7011b5b5d@ska67.de> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2023 14:09:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Subject: Re: xen 4.17.2 qemu-system-i386 crashes To: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org References: <48365ac1-1779-ad64-ad83-32cd2d277821@netscape.net> <45bfceaf-bd21-c537-e8f5-b12b94c566bb@ska67.de> <353a7fb5-6b0a-5ec6-d0d2-b91fe64e4fb5@netscape.net> <6507b397-ed0c-dcc8-3b4a-7b828839a612@netscape.net> Content-Language: de-DE From: xen@ska67.de In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-ID: 20dd6bab-2b62-4fb2-ab8d-9c24fadcec79 Am 22.08.23 um 01:14 schrieb xen@ska67.de: > Am 21.08.23 um 22:15 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: >> On 8/18/2023 10:49 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: >>> On 8/18/2023 7:42 PM, xen@ska67.de wrote: >>>> Am 18.08.23 um 02:32 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: >>>>> On 8/17/23 7:22 PM, xen@ska67.de wrote: >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am using Archlinux. Last month I built and installed xen-4.17.2pre >>>>>> which works perfectly. Today I built and installed the newly released >>>>>> xen-4.17.2. >>>>>> Now qemu-system-i386 crashes. >>>>>> >>>>>> I attached an excerpt from the log. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hmm. I am on Fedora 38, and they just pushed out the 4.17.2 update >>>>> to me >>>>> yesterday and qemu-system-i386 is working fine with it. This is the >>>>> version >>>>> info on Fedora 38 that is working: >>>>> >>>>> Xen version info from sudo xl dmesg on Fedora 38: >>>>> >>>>> (XEN) Xen version 4.17.2 (mockbuild@) (gcc (GCC) 13.2.1 20230728 >>>>> (Red Hat 13.2.1-1)) debug=n Thu Aug 10 22:11:44 UTC 2023 >>>>> >>>>> Qemu version info on Fedora 38: >>>>> >>>>> [user@fedora ~]$ qemu-system-i386 -version >>>>> QEMU emulator version 7.2.1 (qemu-7.2.1-2.fc38) >>>>> Copyright (c) 2003-2022 Fabrice Bellard and the QEMU Project >>>>> developers >>>>> [user@fedora ~]$ >>>>> >>>>> So, I think maybe you are using a different Qemu version that does not >>>>> work with Xen 4.17.2. >>> >>> With the new data this suggestion I made yesterday seems wrong now. >>> >>>> >>>> Xen 4.17.2pre runs on this hardware with both Qemu 8.0.2 and Qemu 8.0.4 >>>> without problems> >>>> On older hardware (Intel Haswell processor) Xen 4.17.2 runs without >>>> problems with Qemu 8.0.4. Obviously only my newer hardware is affected. >>> >>> My working result is also on older hardware (Intel Haswell processor) so >>> we agree the problem you are seeing is related to newer hardware. It >>> might help to mention the model of processor in your newer hardware. > > It is an Intel i9 Coffee Lake processor. > >>> Unfortunately I do not have newer hardware to test my Qemu 7.2.x with >>> Xen 4.17.2 so I won't be able to help you out much any more. (Today >>> Fedora pushed out Qemu 7.2.4 to me and that also works fine with Xen >>> 4.17.2 >>> on the Haswell processor). >>> >>> With this additional data it seems the changes in Xen (not changes in >>> Qemu) >>> are causing the core dump in Qemu on the newer hardware. If no one here >>> on xen-users has any ideas you might try posting this bug on the >>> xen-devel >>> mailing list instead. Mention Haswell always works, but something goes >>> bad with Qemu when upgrading from 4.17.2pre to 4.17.2 on the newer >>> hardware, and mention the model of processor of the newer hardware and >>> the excerpt from the journal, and maybe some of the developers can help >>> you troubleshoot the problem. There presumably are not a lot of changes >>> between Xen 4.17.2pre and 4.17.2 so hopefully the developers can find >>> the >>> problem and fix it for the next release. >> >> To follow up, I just checked the shortlog of the 4.17 branch on >> xenbits.xen.org: >> >> https://xenbits.xen.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/stable-4.17 >> >> and there are I think 80 commits (give or take a few) between the >> 4.17.2pre >> version commit and the 4.17.2 release. So you should be able to bisect >> and >> find the offending commit that is causing qemu-system-i386 to crash on >> your >> newer hardware, but it may take a few builds to narrow it down with about >> 80 commits to check. If you find the offending commit, I suggest you >> report >> it on the xen-devel mailing list so the developers can diagnose the cause >> and find a solution. > > I will try with git bisect, but of course this takes some time. I found the offending commit, it is b9ade05c https://xenbits.xenproject.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git;a=commit;h=b9ade05cbba977673d5a08bc7a5940c5fd8add0e Maybe it has something to do with a microcode update from August 2023. First I need to check if this update is already installed. From xen-users-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Tue Aug 29 19:19:28 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: archives@lists.xen.org Delivery-date: Tue, 29 Aug 2023 19:19:28 +0000 Received: from list by lists.xenproject.org with outflank-mailman.592426.925148 (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qb4Dp-0002bx-Pd; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 19:17:53 +0000 X-Outflank-Mailman: Message body and most headers restored to incoming version Received: by outflank-mailman (output) from mailman id 592426.925148; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 19:17:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xenproject.org) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qb4Dp-0002bm-LL; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 19:17:53 +0000 Received: by outflank-mailman (input) for mailman id 592426; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 19:17:52 +0000 Received: from se1-gles-sth1-in.inumbo.com ([159.253.27.254] helo=se1-gles-sth1.inumbo.com) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qb4Do-0002bg-07 for xen-users@lists.xenproject.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 19:17:52 +0000 Received: from mxout4.routing.net (mxout4.routing.net [2a03:2900:1:a::9]) by se1-gles-sth1.inumbo.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id bd0b4042-46a0-11ee-8783-cb3800f73035; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 21:17:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mxbox4.masterlogin.de (unknown [192.168.10.79]) by mxout4.routing.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C61101538 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 19:17:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from naboo.starwars.lan (ip-109-192-179-039.um38.pools.vodafone-ip.de [109.192.179.39]) by mxbox4.masterlogin.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 93BC280759 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 19:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.154.119] (unknown [192.168.154.119]) by naboo.starwars.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EA7A61E39 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 21:17:48 +0200 (CEST) X-BeenThere: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org List-Id: Xen user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: xen-users-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Precedence: list Sender: "Xen-users" X-Inumbo-ID: bd0b4042-46a0-11ee-8783-cb3800f73035 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mailerdienst.de; s=20200217; t=1693336667; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=z2YXtHKIo+6psqeYEwAArLj9FBtLwcjLYc0R5UtrnCw=; b=Olv1KWlexXE608lB5q+1G4Bv1aXfq0Gia6Moza0EX0QrLnHhXo1HVj0MXclgWP5i9DGe4b 9JlIhF3UBgu3PAQrnKHM64v7BX1MprBYhkP7OncXe5XuFQBdjtECBMRL0ATBmbrZ4w/s0P YWvV1k0pdFPylar/HObkhfWazcfXqnU= Message-ID: <09922c16-b582-79b2-4bac-96bade8039e1@ska67.de> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2023 21:17:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Subject: Re: xen 4.17.2 qemu-system-i386 crashes To: xen-users@lists.xenproject.org References: <48365ac1-1779-ad64-ad83-32cd2d277821@netscape.net> <45bfceaf-bd21-c537-e8f5-b12b94c566bb@ska67.de> <353a7fb5-6b0a-5ec6-d0d2-b91fe64e4fb5@netscape.net> <6507b397-ed0c-dcc8-3b4a-7b828839a612@netscape.net> <039c7b55-0f6f-6c23-d27c-dbf7011b5b5d@ska67.de> Content-Language: de-DE From: xen@ska67.de In-Reply-To: <039c7b55-0f6f-6c23-d27c-dbf7011b5b5d@ska67.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-ID: 20eeb95d-5e5d-4b85-bad8-64668e225db8 Am 27.08.23 um 14:09 schrieb xen@ska67.de: > Am 22.08.23 um 01:14 schrieb xen@ska67.de: >> Am 21.08.23 um 22:15 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: >>> On 8/18/2023 10:49 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: >>>> On 8/18/2023 7:42 PM, xen@ska67.de wrote: >>>>> Am 18.08.23 um 02:32 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: >>>>>> On 8/17/23 7:22 PM, xen@ska67.de wrote: >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am using Archlinux. Last month I built and installed xen-4.17.2pre >>>>>>> which works perfectly. Today I built and installed the newly >>>>>>> released >>>>>>> xen-4.17.2. >>>>>>> Now qemu-system-i386 crashes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I attached an excerpt from the log. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hmm. I am on Fedora 38, and they just pushed out the 4.17.2 update >>>>>> to me >>>>>> yesterday and qemu-system-i386 is working fine with it. This is >>>>>> the version >>>>>> info on Fedora 38 that is working: >>>>>> >>>>>> Xen version info from sudo xl dmesg on Fedora 38: >>>>>> >>>>>> (XEN) Xen version 4.17.2 (mockbuild@) (gcc (GCC) 13.2.1 20230728 >>>>>> (Red Hat 13.2.1-1)) debug=n Thu Aug 10 22:11:44 UTC 2023 >>>>>> >>>>>> Qemu version info on Fedora 38: >>>>>> >>>>>> [user@fedora ~]$ qemu-system-i386 -version >>>>>> QEMU emulator version 7.2.1 (qemu-7.2.1-2.fc38) >>>>>> Copyright (c) 2003-2022 Fabrice Bellard and the QEMU Project >>>>>> developers >>>>>> [user@fedora ~]$ >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I think maybe you are using a different Qemu version that does >>>>>> not >>>>>> work with Xen 4.17.2. >>>> >>>> With the new data this suggestion I made yesterday seems wrong now. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Xen 4.17.2pre runs on this hardware with both Qemu 8.0.2 and Qemu >>>>> 8.0.4 >>>>> without problems> >>>>> On older hardware (Intel Haswell processor) Xen 4.17.2 runs without >>>>> problems with Qemu 8.0.4. Obviously only my newer hardware is >>>>> affected. >>>> >>>> My working result is also on older hardware (Intel Haswell >>>> processor) so >>>> we agree the problem you are seeing is related to newer hardware. It >>>> might help to mention the model of processor in your newer hardware. >> >> It is an Intel i9 Coffee Lake processor. >> >>>> Unfortunately I do not have newer hardware to test my Qemu 7.2.x with >>>> Xen 4.17.2 so I won't be able to help you out much any more. (Today >>>> Fedora pushed out Qemu 7.2.4 to me and that also works fine with Xen >>>> 4.17.2 >>>> on the Haswell processor). >>>> >>>> With this additional data it seems the changes in Xen (not changes >>>> in Qemu) >>>> are causing the core dump in Qemu on the newer hardware. If no one here >>>> on xen-users has any ideas you might try posting this bug on the >>>> xen-devel >>>> mailing list instead. Mention Haswell always works, but something goes >>>> bad with Qemu when upgrading from 4.17.2pre to 4.17.2 on the newer >>>> hardware, and mention the model of processor of the newer hardware and >>>> the excerpt from the journal, and maybe some of the developers can help >>>> you troubleshoot the problem. There presumably are not a lot of changes >>>> between Xen 4.17.2pre and 4.17.2 so hopefully the developers can >>>> find the >>>> problem and fix it for the next release. >>> >>> To follow up, I just checked the shortlog of the 4.17 branch on >>> xenbits.xen.org: >>> >>> https://xenbits.xen.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/stable-4.17 >>> >>> and there are I think 80 commits (give or take a few) between the >>> 4.17.2pre >>> version commit and the 4.17.2 release. So you should be able to >>> bisect and >>> find the offending commit that is causing qemu-system-i386 to crash >>> on your >>> newer hardware, but it may take a few builds to narrow it down with >>> about >>> 80 commits to check. If you find the offending commit, I suggest you >>> report >>> it on the xen-devel mailing list so the developers can diagnose the >>> cause >>> and find a solution. >> >> I will try with git bisect, but of course this takes some time. > > I found the offending commit, it is b9ade05c > https://xenbits.xenproject.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git;a=commit;h=b9ade05cbba977673d5a08bc7a5940c5fd8add0e > > Maybe it has something to do with a microcode update from August 2023. > First I need to check if this update is already installed. Yes, it has to do with this microcode update. Once the microcode update is installed, qemu-system-i386 no longer crashes. But what does this mean? Is this a regression or does Xen not need to be able to run on unpatched CPUs?