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RE: [Xen-users] Xen 3.0.3 confusion


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  • From: Art Fore <art.fore@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 03:37:56 +0800
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On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 21:25 +0200, Petersson, Mats wrote:
>  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Art Fore
> > Sent: 24 October 2006 20:21
> > To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [Xen-users] Xen 3.0.3 confusion
> > 
> > On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 20:39 +0200, Petersson, Mats wrote:
> > >  
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> > Of Art Fore
> > > > Sent: 24 October 2006 19:33
> > > > To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: RE: [Xen-users] Xen 3.0.3 confusion
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 20:05 +0200, Petersson, Mats wrote:
> > > > >  
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> > > > Of Art Fore
> > > > > > Sent: 24 October 2006 18:55
> > > > > > To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.0.3 confusion
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 17:00 +0200, Ulrich Windl wrote:
> > > > > > > On 24 Oct 2006 at 21:28, Art Fore wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I am thoughly confused  with the various Xen 3.0.3 
> > > > > > versions for Suse.
> > > > > > > > Firt there is not for suse 10.1, so I gues I woulllt the 
> > > > > > source tarball
> > > > > > > > and compile. ( I tried the RPM for 10.0 (I am running 
> > > > > > SuSE 10.1) but it
> > > > > > > > caused a kernel panic)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I have 5 packages listed unter Yast software management 
> > > > > > (not including
> > > > > > > > documentation,pdf, etc).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Kernel-xen ver  2.6.16.21.25
> > > > > > > > Xen             3.02_09763-0.8
> > > > > > > > xen-libs        3.02_09763-0.8
> > > > > > > > xen-tools       3.02_09763-0.8
> > > > > > > > xen-tools-ioemu 3.02_09763-0.8
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I understad allof these have tomach. If I do the compile 
> > > > > > of the tarball
> > > > > > > > with make distro, does this al create all of the files?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If this does not create all of the files, how do I find 
> > > > > > the other files?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > rpm -qi <package name> will show the source RPM. There you 
> > > > > > have the sources. 
> > > > > > > Update the sources, thenrebuild the RPMs.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > Ulrich
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The more I look into this, the more confused I get.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >From http://www.xensource.com/files/xen_install_windows.pdf
> > > > > > There is a paragraph:
> > > > > > Type /usr/sbin/xm info | grep caps at the command prompt. 
> > > > You will see
> > > > > > "hvm-3.0-x86_32" if Xen can detect the VT or AMD-V 
> > > > > > technology. If you do
> > > > > > not see this, then your system does not have the 
> > > > appropriate processor
> > > > > > technology, or it has been disabled in the BIOS. You must 
> > > > rectify this
> > > > > > before proceeding.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > When I type the command, I get:
> > > > > > linux-p204:~ # /usr/sbin/xm info | grep caps
> > > > > > hw_caps                :
> > > > > > 178bfbff:ebd3fbff:00000000:00000010:00002001:00000000:0000001f
> > > > > > xen_caps               : xen-3.0-x86_64 hvm-3.0-x86_32 
> > > > hvm-3.0-x86_64
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I have 3 hvm listings instead of 1. Could someone 
> > kindly explain:
> > > > > > Is this normal of Athlon 64 X2 (Running Suse 10.1 Xen kernel)?
> > > > > > If it is normal, why 3 hvms?
> > > > > > If it isn't, what is happening?
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's normal. 
> > > > > You can run:
> > > > > xen-3.0-x86_64  - Paravirtual 3.0-compatible 64-bit kernel.
> > > > > hvm-3.0-x86_32  - fully virtualized 32-bit kernel.
> > > > > hvm-3.0-x86_64  - fully virtualized 64-bit kernel. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > And it's actually only two hvms and one "xen" (but 
> > until I started
> > > > > splitting it up on separate lines, I didn't see the 
> > > > difference either!).
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The above .pdf reference I presume was written by someone 
> > > > that didn't do
> > > > > 64-bit builds of Xen at the time of writing. [Although 
> > > > essentially, what
> > > > > the above text refers to is THERE, right, it's just not 
> > > > alone, which the
> > > > > text doesn't say it should be (nor does it say that is 
> > shouldn't be
> > > > > alone)]. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I created 2 full virtualization machines with Yast, but 
> > > > they are both
> > > > > > stopped. The WinXP never completed installation,it hung 
> > > > the computer
> > > > > > about 2/3 of the device installation phase, and the Suse 10 
> > > > > > was going so
> > > > > > slow that it was going to take 13 hours to install.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What version (according to xm info) are you using? Can you 
> > > > post the full
> > > > > "xm info" output, please?
> > > > > 
> > > > > --
> > > > > Mats
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Art
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Xen-users mailing list
> > > > > > Xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Well that is a relief that it is normal. Thanks for the info.
> > > > 
> > > > Here is the output of xm info
> > > > 
> > > > # xm info
> > > > host                   : linux-p204
> > > > release                : 2.6.16.21-0.25-xen
> > > > version                : #1 SMP Tue Sep 19 07:26:15 UTC 2006
> > > > machine                : x86_64
> > > > nr_cpus                : 2
> > > > nr_nodes               : 1
> > > > sockets_per_node       : 1
> > > > cores_per_socket       : 2
> > > > threads_per_core       : 1
> > > > cpu_mhz                : 2000
> > > > hw_caps                :
> > > > 178bfbff:ebd3fbff:00000000:00000010:00002001:00000000:0000001f
> > > > total_memory           : 2047
> > > > free_memory            : 124
> > > > max_free_memory        : 1811
> > > > max_para_memory        : 1807
> > > > max_hvm_memory         : 1794
> > > > xen_major              : 3
> > > > xen_minor              : 0
> > > > xen_extra              : .2_09763-0.8
> > > > xen_caps               : xen-3.0-x86_64 hvm-3.0-x86_32 
> > hvm-3.0-x86_64
> > > > platform_params        : virt_start=0xffff800000000000
> > > > xen_changeset          : 09763
> > > 
> > > This tells me that it's roughly 2000 changesets old... So 
> > there's been
> > > "a few" changes that may influence your success in running hvm (or
> > > other) domains on your system. 
> > > 
> > > You may want to download the latest sources or precompiled 
> > binary from
> > > xensource (if the precompiled binary is what you're using now, then
> > > that's obviously not much use - latest sources would be better). 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Mats
> > > > cc_compiler            : gcc version 4.1.0 (SUSE Linux)
> > > > cc_compile_by          : abuild
> > > > cc_compile_domain      : suse.de
> > > > cc_compile_date        : Fri Oct  6 16:00:18 UTC 2006
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Thanks for the info. The precompiled binaries are the stock Suse 10.1
> > binaries which are 3.0.2. I tried the latest version for Suse 9.3 that
> > are availalbe, but guess I didn't do it right or they don't work for
> > this kernel as it caused a kernel crash and I removed it. Am going to
> > try the source tab but that is where the confusion came in as 
> > far as the
> > other packages that have to go along with it. 
> > 
> > When yoou make distro and then install, exactly what packages are
> > installed or where do you find out? Are the xen-tools and
> > xen-tools-ioemu files included with the source tar and if 
> > not, where do
> > you get them that match or do the have to match? Googling has 
> > not found
> > anything for 3.0.3 for these packages.
> 
> Yes, as long as you have ALL the necessary tools and packages to compile
> all components, the source-tar-ball contains all the necessary code to
> build xen itself, tools, ioemu bits and whatever else you may need. 
> 
> There is a hitch in building the "firmware" which is part of tools to
> run hvm - you need a 16-bit compiler which you have to go somewhere to
> download, it's not normally distributed with the distributions... If you
> do "cd <xen-root>/tools/firmware" and type "make", it'll suggest a
> location to download from - you probably also need to build this, and
> when I last tried, it didn't build correctly in 64-bit mode, so try
> building with "linux32" or some such set... 
> 
> --
> Mats
> > 
> > Art
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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I think I will check on the Suse mail list if anyone has already done
this for 10.1. It sounds kindof complex building it and the way things
have been going lately, everything that could go wrong probably will.

Art


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