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RE: [Xen-devel] Re: [Xen-users] Why Xen will deprecated? Is it to old?


  • To: Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@xxxxxx>
  • From: "Ian Tobin" <itobin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:17:34 +0100
  • Cc: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:18:23 -0700
  • List-id: Xen user discussion <xen-users.lists.xensource.com>
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  • Thread-topic: [Xen-devel] Re: [Xen-users] Why Xen will deprecated? Is it to old?

But what is pv_ops dom0 ? 
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Pasi Kärkkäinen [mailto:pasik@xxxxxx] 
Sent: 21 October 2009 09:54
To: Ian Tobin
Cc: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [Xen-users] Why Xen will deprecated? Is it to old?

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 09:31:46AM +0100, Ian Tobin wrote:
> Are you guys saying you wont be able to compile XEN on the new version of 
> Debian ?
> 

Of course you can compile Xen on Debian :) 

I guess this thread started about the debian kernel group meeting:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2009/10/msg00613.html

.. where they say next stable debian release ("squeeze") will have xen
dom0 kernel using forward-ported xenlinux patches (from novell/opensuse), 
and after squeeze release the separate xen dom0 kernel will be removed from 
debian, 
since by that time the pv_ops dom0 support should be included in the upstream 
Linux kernel.

-- Pasi

> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pasi Kärkkäinen
> Sent: 21 October 2009 09:25
> To: Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
> Cc: Fajar A. Nugraha; xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
> xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [Xen-users] Why Xen will deprecated? Is it to 
> old?
> 
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:02:14PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) 
> wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > I went to this page
> > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/prologue/hostreqs.html
> > and it says that LFS instructions are currently for building a 32-bit
> > system only. Instructions for building 64-bit systems will only come
> > in a future version of LFS.
> > 
> > I remembered I encountered some difficulties when building a 32-bit
> > Xen system. PAE support must be enabled. This was mentioned by Pasi.
> > 
> 
> Yes, 32bit Xen dom0 must be PAE (64G mem support enabled), and also
> 32bit PV guests must be PAE. 
> 
> Back in the days Xen supported also non-PAE 32bit, but not anymore nowadays.
> In 32bit kernel configuration you'll see Xen options only after you enable 
> PAE first.
> 
> -- Pasi
> 
> > -- 
> > Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical
> > Engineering)
> > Alma Maters:
> > (1) Singapore Polytechnic
> > (2) National University of Singapore
> > Blog URL: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com
> > Email: space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx
> > MSN: teoenming@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Mobile Phone: +65-9648-9798
> > Street: Bedok Reservoir Road
> > Republic of Singapore
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Fajar A. Nugraha <fajar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
> > > <space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> If we don't use any specific Linux distribution like Fedora, Debian,
> > >> Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, etc, we could still customize or DIY our own linux
> > >> system according to the instructions here at the Linux from Scratch
> > >> online book http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/
> > >>
> > >> And then we could download the pv_ops/pvops dom0 kernels and Xen
> > >> hypervisor and compile ourselves.
> > >>
> > >> Anyone forsees any problems with this approach?
> > >
> > > I don't see a difference whether you use specific distro or a DIY
> > > system. You could always setup xen (including dom0 kernel) manually.
> > > A possible snag might be if you use i386, where you need xen-friendly
> > > glibc. For x86_64 it's much easier.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Fajar
> > >
> > 
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> 
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