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Re: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud questions


  • To: James Troup <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • From: Olivier LAMBERT <lambert.olivier@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:42:32 +0100
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Thanks for the info. It was unclear on this page
(http://www.xen.org/products/cloudxen.html)

Regards,


Olivier
XO Project
http://xen-orchestra.com


On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:07 PM, James Troup <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> XCP only supports 64bit host machine not 32bit.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Olivier LAMBERT" <lambert.olivier@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Dave Scott" <Dave.Scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Xen User-List" <xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, 25 February, 2010 8:08:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud questions
>
> another question : does the iso of XCP support 64 bits ? Because all
> my servers have at least 16Gig of RAM !
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Olivier
> XO Project
> http://xen-orchestra.com
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Olivier LAMBERT
> <lambert.olivier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hello Dave,
>>
>> First of all, thank you for these answers.
>> In fact, the new API seems to be really better, especially for its new
>> class, like VM_guest_metrics (which is not implemented on "classical"
>> Xen). I really need it to provide a best overview of DomU's in my web
>> app.
>> I presume VM_guest_metrics is operational now (or not ?).
>>
>> About the "glossy marketing and other stuff" names (mandatory now,
>> sorry about that ;) ), there is :
>> - 'Intelligent Space Occupation System' : feature of the GUI of XO. A
>> simple but so far nice system which balance on each side each Dom0,
>> with their "weight" (number of domU displayed) : it allows balanced
>> display of the page : the idea was given by someone working in GUI, I
>> talk about it here :
>> http://xen-orchestra.com/2009/09/interview-with-a-gui-specialist/
>>
>> 'First Load Ready' : it helps to load the page without using JSON (PHP
>> to JS string). For the first load, data are incorporated directly in
>> the page. Simple feature again, but useful to avoid wasting transfers
>> ;)
>>
>> 'Conductor' : not yet exists, but a project to offer a XO appliance
>> with EcoPool feature (and all the previous features of XO). This "box"
>> will have only a web interface with simple configuration, to deliver a
>> "all in one" package for managing all Dom0's with XO.
>>
>> 'EcoPool' : result of a future sort of "joint-venture" with a company
>> specialist in game servers. This feature automatically reduce RAM/CPU
>> part when the server is unoccupied (no game with players ATM, but
>> dedicated still running), and live migrate on a specific pool of
>> servers, in sort of "hot standby" with low resources.
>>
>> Anyway, the project is still young and under heavy development, but
>> recently, my contribution was requested on big projects with XO and
>> new features, so contributers will increase. Furthermore, the "base"
>> is very clean, and display is really separate from the "engine". So,
>> future dev will be not complicated. And we use git :o
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Olivier.
>> XO Project
>> http://xen-orchestra.com
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Dave Scott <Dave.Scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Olivier,
>>>
>>>> I'm using Xen 3.4 on Debian Lenny, and a web interface (still in dev),
>>>> to have a eye on all the stuff.
>>>> I saw the Xen Cloud project, but I have some questions about it.
>>>>
>>>> Can I summarize Xen Cloud like this : "latest" Xen Hypervisor with
>>>
>>> XCP is using xen 3.4.2 atm. It'll take a little bit of time to update to
>>> xen 4.0.
>>>
>>>> "improved" API (OCaml replacing python and more stuff) which enhance
>>>> informations about all Xen hypervisors in same time, to provide a
>>>> simple way to watch this. Am I right ?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>> Second question : where can I find documentation about the API, like
>>>> the pdf in this page : http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenApi, but
>>>> for the new one.
>>>
>>> http://www.xen.org/files/XenCloud/ocamldoc/apidoc.html
>>>
>>> If you're interested there's also a link on that page for "Code docs"
>>> too.
>>>
>>>> Third question : does my current project of web interface
>>>> (http://xen-orchestra.com) is still relevant for Xen Cloud ? API
>>>> binding are similar ?
>>>
>>> Yes I think it is still relevant-- XCP gives you a very capable "backend"
>>> but it doesn't include a "frontend". I'm also intrigued by some of your
>>> features :) Can you explain what 'Intelligent Space Occupation System',
>>> 'First Load Ready', 'Conductor' and 'EcoPool' are?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> And last : when did you think using Xen Cloud is more useful than
>>>> "simple" Xen, or reverse the question : is still useful to have a
>>>> "simple" multiple Xen hosts in a network or Xen Cloud is a must have ?
>>>
>>> Xen Cloud is supposed to be a very easy to install "virtualization
>>> platform in a box". It's a complete, coherent system where all the bits are
>>> tested together. It's also got a bunch of extra toolstack features such as:
>>> support or multi-host resource pools; role-based access control;
>>> heterogeneous storage support etc. Personally I'd consider it a "must have"
>>> but I'm definitely biased :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Olivier.
>>>> XO Project
>>>> http://xen-orchestra.com
>>>>
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