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I've been running a router in an HVM domU for a year or so, and it just
failed on me. When I try to xl create /etc/xen/chr.hvm.cfg, I get:

Parsing config from /etc/xen/chr.hvm.cfg
libxl: error: libxl_dm.c:2339:device_model_spawn_outcome: Domain 2:domain 2
device model: spawn failed (rc=-3)
libxl: error: libxl_create.c:1501:domcreate_devmodel_started: Domain
2:device model did not start: -3
libxl: error: libxl_dm.c:2453:kill_device_model: Device Model already exited
libxl: error: libxl_domain.c:1003:libxl__destroy_domid: Domain
2:Non-existant domain
libxl: error: libxl_domain.c:962:domain_destroy_callback: Domain 2:Unable
to destroy guest
libxl: error: libxl_domain.c:889:domain_destroy_cb: Domain 2:Destruction of
domain failed

I hadn't updated between when that happened and the last time I booted that
domU. I tried updating my system (pacman -Syu), but no change. Any ideas?

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve been running a router in an HVM domU for a year o=
r so, and it just failed on me. When I try to xl create /etc/xen/chr.hvm.cf=
g, I get:<div><br>Parsing config from /etc/xen/chr.hvm.cfg<br>libxl: error:=
 libxl_dm.c:2339:device_model_spawn_outcome: Domain 2:domain 2 device model=
: spawn failed (rc=3D-3)<br>libxl: error: libxl_create.c:1501:domcreate_dev=
model_started: Domain 2:device model did not start: -3<br>libxl: error: lib=
xl_dm.c:2453:kill_device_model: Device Model already exited<br>libxl: error=
: libxl_domain.c:1003:libxl__destroy_domid: Domain 2:Non-existant domain<br=
>libxl: error: libxl_domain.c:962:domain_destroy_callback: Domain 2:Unable =
to destroy guest<br>libxl: error: libxl_domain.c:889:domain_destroy_cb: Dom=
ain 2:Destruction of domain failed<br><div><br></div></div><div>I hadn&#39;=
t updated between when that happened and the last time I booted that domU. =
I tried updating my system (pacman -Syu), but no change. Any ideas?</div></=
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That log file had the answer. I didn't even know that existed.

/usr/lib/xen/bin/qemu-system-i386: error while loading shared libraries:
libiscsi.so.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

I updated libiscsi and now have libiscsi.so.8 instead. I just used
downgrade to go back to libiscsi-1.17.0-2 and that fixed it.
Although, why does it need iSCSI? I'm not using any iSCSI disks.

Anyway, thank you very much!

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 1:57 AM George Dunlap <dunlapg@umich.edu> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:07 AM Duncan X Simpson <virtualdxs@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I've been running a router in an HVM domU for a year or so, and it just
> failed on me. When I try to xl create /etc/xen/chr.hvm.cfg, I get:
> >
> > Parsing config from /etc/xen/chr.hvm.cfg
> > libxl: error: libxl_dm.c:2339:device_model_spawn_outcome: Domain
> 2:domain 2 device model: spawn failed (rc=-3)
> > libxl: error: libxl_create.c:1501:domcreate_devmodel_started: Domain
> 2:device model did not start: -3
> > libxl: error: libxl_dm.c:2453:kill_device_model: Device Model already
> exited
> > libxl: error: libxl_domain.c:1003:libxl__destroy_domid: Domain
> 2:Non-existant domain
> > libxl: error: libxl_domain.c:962:domain_destroy_callback: Domain
> 2:Unable to destroy guest
> > libxl: error: libxl_domain.c:889:domain_destroy_cb: Domain 2:Destruction
> of domain failed
> >
> > I hadn't updated between when that happened and the last time I booted
> that domU. I tried updating my system (pacman -Syu), but no change. Any
> ideas?
>
> Can you attach your config file, and
> /var/log/xen/qemu-dm-${vnmame}.log?  (Where ${vmname} is the name of
> your VM of course.)
>
> For good measure, could you attach the output of `dmesg` and `xl dmesg` as
> well?
>
> Thanks.
>
>  -George
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">That log file had the answer. I didn&#39;t even know that =
existed.<div><br><div><div>/usr/lib/xen/bin/qemu-system-i386: error while l=
oading shared libraries: libiscsi.so.7: cannot open shared object file: No =
such file or directory</div></div><div><br></div><div>I updated libiscsi an=
d now have libiscsi.so.8 instead. I just used downgrade to go back to libis=
csi-1.17.0-2 and that fixed it.</div><div>Although, why does it need iSCSI?=
 I&#39;m not using any iSCSI disks.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, =
thank you very much!</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr">On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 1:57 AM George Dunlap &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dun=
lapg@umich.edu">dunlapg@umich.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:07 AM Duncan X Simpson &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:virtualdxs@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">virtualdxs@gmail.com</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I&#39;ve been running a router in an HVM domU for a year or so, and it=
 just failed on me. When I try to xl create /etc/xen/chr.hvm.cfg, I get:<br=
>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Parsing config from /etc/xen/chr.hvm.cfg<br>
&gt; libxl: error: libxl_dm.c:2339:device_model_spawn_outcome: Domain 2:dom=
ain 2 device model: spawn failed (rc=3D-3)<br>
&gt; libxl: error: libxl_create.c:1501:domcreate_devmodel_started: Domain 2=
:device model did not start: -3<br>
&gt; libxl: error: libxl_dm.c:2453:kill_device_model: Device Model already =
exited<br>
&gt; libxl: error: libxl_domain.c:1003:libxl__destroy_domid: Domain 2:Non-e=
xistant domain<br>
&gt; libxl: error: libxl_domain.c:962:domain_destroy_callback: Domain 2:Una=
ble to destroy guest<br>
&gt; libxl: error: libxl_domain.c:889:domain_destroy_cb: Domain 2:Destructi=
on of domain failed<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I hadn&#39;t updated between when that happened and the last time I bo=
oted that domU. I tried updating my system (pacman -Syu), but no change. An=
y ideas?<br>
<br>
Can you attach your config file, and<br>
/var/log/xen/qemu-dm-${vnmame}.log?=C2=A0 (Where ${vmname} is the name of<b=
r>
your VM of course.)<br>
<br>
For good measure, could you attach the output of `dmesg` and `xl dmesg` as =
well?<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0-George<br>
</blockquote></div>

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I used the AUR package with some tweaking, so a bit of both. And yep, it's
Arch.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 08:58 George Dunlap <dunlapg@umich.edu> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:28 PM Duncan X Simpson <virtualdxs@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > That log file had the answer. I didn't even know that existed.
> >
> > /usr/lib/xen/bin/qemu-system-i386: error while loading shared libraries:
> libiscsi.so.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >
> > I updated libiscsi and now have libiscsi.so.8 instead. I just used
> downgrade to go back to libiscsi-1.17.0-2 and that fixed it.
>
> Glad to hear it!
>
> > Although, why does it need iSCSI? I'm not using any iSCSI disks.
>
> Hmm -- did you build Xen yourself, or are you using a package managed
> by pacman (which is Arch Linux, I'm guessing)?
>
>  -George
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I used the AUR package with some tweaking, so a bit of bot=
h. And yep, it&#39;s Arch.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 08:58 George Dunlap &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:dunlapg@umich.edu">dunlapg@umich.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></di=
v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:28 PM Duncan X Si=
mpson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:virtualdxs@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">virtual=
dxs@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; That log file had the answer. I didn&#39;t even know that existed.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; /usr/lib/xen/bin/qemu-system-i386: error while loading shared librarie=
s: libiscsi.so.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory=
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I updated libiscsi and now have libiscsi.so.8 instead. I just used dow=
ngrade to go back to libiscsi-1.17.0-2 and that fixed it.<br>
<br>
Glad to hear it!<br>
<br>
&gt; Although, why does it need iSCSI? I&#39;m not using any iSCSI disks.<b=
r>
<br>
Hmm -- did you build Xen yourself, or are you using a package managed<br>
by pacman (which is Arch Linux, I&#39;m guessing)?<br>
<br>
=C2=A0-George<br>
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On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 9:18 AM George Dunlap <dunlapg@umich.edu> wrote:

> [In xen lists the standard is to reply in-line, not top-post.]
>

Sorry about that, Gmail makes it require a separate action to even see the
previous email, let alone reply inline, so I don't even think about it.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 5:01 PM Duncan X Simpson <virtualdxs@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I used the AUR package with some tweaking, so a bit of both. And yep,
> it's Arch.
>
Right -- so the Xen build involves cloning & building qemu; and qemu's
> habit, when you run ./configure, is to automatically enable all
> features for which the requisite libraries exist, unless explicitly
> disabled.  Probably what happened is that when you did your local
> build, the qemu build system noticed you had libiscsi installed and
> enabled some random feature that linked against it.


It seems the author of the PKGBUILD knew that it would do that and
explicitly added a makedepends and a depends on libiscsi.

Did you make an actual package that you then installed with pacman, or
> just install Xen some other way?
>

The former.

If you made a package, I'm not sure why pacman didn't notice the
> dependency; but you may want to see about building the package in a
> chroot or something, with the minimum number of packages installed.
>

Because the PKGBUILD (basically instructions that tell makepkg what to do
and give it package metadata) depends on libiscsi, not libiscsi-1.17. I'm
on an outdated version of Xen (4.9) anyway. I'm about to upgrade, but I'm
taking a full backup first. We'll see what happens!

If you installed it directly, I'm afraid you're just going to have to
> recompile and install it again whenever a breaking library update
> happens. :-)
>
>  -George
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 3,=
 2018 at 9:18 AM George Dunlap &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dunlapg@umich.edu">dun=
lapg@umich.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">[In x=
en lists the standard is to reply in-line, not top-post.]<br></blockquote><=
div>=C2=A0</div><div>Sorry about that, Gmail makes it require a separate ac=
tion to even see the previous email, let alone reply inline, so I don&#39;t=
 even think about it.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 5:01 PM Duncan X Simpson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:virtu=
aldxs@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">virtualdxs@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I used the AUR package with some tweaking, so a bit of both. And yep, =
it&#39;s Arch.<br></blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Right -- so the Xen build involves cloning &amp; building qemu; and qemu&#3=
9;s<br>
habit, when you run ./configure, is to automatically enable all<br>
features for which the requisite libraries exist, unless explicitly<br>
disabled.=C2=A0 Probably what happened is that when you did your local<br>
build, the qemu build system noticed you had libiscsi installed and<br>
enabled some random feature that linked against it.=C2=A0</blockquote><div>=
<br></div><div>It seems the author of the PKGBUILD knew that it would do th=
at and explicitly added a makedepends and a depends on libiscsi.</div><div>=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Did you make an actual package that you then installed with pacman, or<br>
just install Xen some other way?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The fo=
rmer.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
If you made a package, I&#39;m not sure why pacman didn&#39;t notice the<br=
>
dependency; but you may want to see about building the package in a<br>
chroot or something, with the minimum number of packages installed.<br></bl=
ockquote><div><br></div><div>Because the PKGBUILD (basically instructions t=
hat tell makepkg what to do and give it package metadata) depends on libisc=
si, not libiscsi-1.17. I&#39;m on an outdated version of Xen (4.9) anyway. =
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Hi,

We are using Xen-4.8 on Hikey960. After running "xl dmesg"  found the below
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*(XEN) I/O virtulisation disabled. *

In case of x86 from the above log we can identify whether IOMMU is enabled
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Does same apply to ARM? If yes, how to enable it?

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Okay, I've been struggling with this for ages, and have enough data to come
back here.

* Xen 4.8 ('xl info' outputs 4.8.4-pre, but it's Debian
version 4.8.3+xsa267+shim4.10.1+xsa267-1+deb9u9)
* QEMU emulator version 2.12.0 (Debian 1:2.12+dfsg-3)

Trying to boot a Knoppix or Debian Live ISO inside an HVM fails: CD-ROM
emulation fails.
What's extremely strange is that 32-bit kernels boot just fine, it's just
64-bit kernels that have a problem.

Furthermore, the kernels don't exhibit this problem if I run qemu directly
(no Xen acceleration).

Having libata dump the IDENTIFY data had a most curious result: all zeroes.

-- 
-- Stevie-O
Real programmers use COPY CON PROGRAM.EXE

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emulation fails.</div><div>What&#39;s extremely strange is that 32-bit kern=
els boot just fine, it&#39;s just 64-bit kernels that have a problem.</div>=
<div><br>Furthermore, the kernels don&#39;t exhibit this problem if I run q=
emu directly (no Xen acceleration).</div><div><br></div><div>Having libata =
dump the IDENTIFY data had a most curious result: all zeroes.</div><div><di=
v><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">-- Stevie-O<b=
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[Adding Roger]

On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:10 +0200, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> We are hitting some I/O limitation on some of our Xen hypervisors.
> The hypervisors are running CentOS 6 with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6 and
> 4.9.105+=20
> kernels.
>=20
> The hypervisors are attached with 10G network to the SAN network.
> And=20
> there is no congestion at all.
> Storage is exported via iSCSI and we use multipathd for failover.
> Now we see a performance of +-200MB/sec write speed, but only a poor=20
> 20-30mb/sec read speed on a LUN on the SAN.
> This is while testing this on dom0. Same speeds on domU.
>=20
> If I do the same test on a Xen 4.4.4-34.el6 hypervisor to the same
> LUN=20
> (but attached with 1G), I max out the link (100MB read/write).
>=20
Right. But, if I've understood correctly, you're changing two things (I
mean between the two tests), i.e., the hypervisor and the NIC.
(BTW, is dom0 kernel the same, or does that also change?).

This makes it harder to narrow things down to where the problem could
be.

What would be useful to see would be the results of running:
- Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 10G NIC / host,
  and compare this with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with the same kernel on the=20
  same NIC / host;
- Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 1G NIC / host,
  and compare this with Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with the same kernel on the
  same NIC / host.

This will tell us, if there is a regression between Xen 4.4.x and Xen
4.6.x (as that is _the_only_ thing that varies).

And this is assuming the versions of the dom0 kernels, and of all the
other components involved are the same. If they're not, we need to go
checking, changing one component at a time.

> So it really looks like the Xen 4.6 hypervisors are reaching some=20
> bottleneck. But we couldn't locate it yet :)
>
There seems to be issues, but from the tests you've performed so far, I
don't think we can conclude the problem is in Xen. And we need to know
at least where the problem most likely is, in order to have any chance
to find it! :-)

> The hypervisor's dom0 has 8 vCPU and 8GB RAM, which should be plenty!
>=20
Probably. But, just in case, have you tried increasing, e.g., the
number of dom0's vcpus? Is things like vcpu-pinning or similar features
being used? Is the host a NUMA box? (Or, more generally, what are the
characteristics of the host[s]?)

Regards,
Dario
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FYI,

After some additional debugging, I found out that on the machine the 
speed is perfect when running stock CentOS 6 kernel (2.6.32).
When using a 4.9.x of 4.18.x kernel, the speed is degraded again.

Speed on 2.6.32: 320 MB/s
Speed on 4.9.x : 55.2 MB/s

But when I disable gro on the storage NIC, It boosts to 157 MB/s.
That is already better, but still way below what we have on 2.6.32 ...

I also did tests on plain machine without Xen, and with the same results.
So it doesn't looks like its Xen related, but more iSCSi/Kernel.

Thanks
Jean-Louis


On 11-10-18 11:18, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> [Adding Roger]
>
> On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:10 +0200, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We are hitting some I/O limitation on some of our Xen hypervisors.
>> The hypervisors are running CentOS 6 with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6 and
>> 4.9.105+
>> kernels.
>>
>> The hypervisors are attached with 10G network to the SAN network.
>> And
>> there is no congestion at all.
>> Storage is exported via iSCSI and we use multipathd for failover.
>> Now we see a performance of +-200MB/sec write speed, but only a poor
>> 20-30mb/sec read speed on a LUN on the SAN.
>> This is while testing this on dom0. Same speeds on domU.
>>
>> If I do the same test on a Xen 4.4.4-34.el6 hypervisor to the same
>> LUN
>> (but attached with 1G), I max out the link (100MB read/write).
>>
> Right. But, if I've understood correctly, you're changing two things (I
> mean between the two tests), i.e., the hypervisor and the NIC.
> (BTW, is dom0 kernel the same, or does that also change?).
>
> This makes it harder to narrow things down to where the problem could
> be.
>
> What would be useful to see would be the results of running:
> - Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 10G NIC / host,
>    and compare this with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with the same kernel on the
>    same NIC / host;
> - Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 1G NIC / host,
>    and compare this with Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with the same kernel on the
>    same NIC / host.
>
> This will tell us, if there is a regression between Xen 4.4.x and Xen
> 4.6.x (as that is _the_only_ thing that varies).
>
> And this is assuming the versions of the dom0 kernels, and of all the
> other components involved are the same. If they're not, we need to go
> checking, changing one component at a time.
>
>> So it really looks like the Xen 4.6 hypervisors are reaching some
>> bottleneck. But we couldn't locate it yet :)
>>
> There seems to be issues, but from the tests you've performed so far, I
> don't think we can conclude the problem is in Xen. And we need to know
> at least where the problem most likely is, in order to have any chance
> to find it! :-)
>
>> The hypervisor's dom0 has 8 vCPU and 8GB RAM, which should be plenty!
>>
> Probably. But, just in case, have you tried increasing, e.g., the
> number of dom0's vcpus? Is things like vcpu-pinning or similar features
> being used? Is the host a NUMA box? (Or, more generally, what are the
> characteristics of the host[s]?)
>
> Regards,
> Dario
>
>
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    <p>FYI,</p>
    <p>After some additional debugging, I found out that on the machine
      the speed is perfect when running stock CentOS 6 kernel (2.6.32).<br>
      When using a 4.9.x of 4.18.x kernel, the speed is degraded again.</p>
    <p>Speed on 2.6.32: 320 MB/s<br>
      Speed on 4.9.x : 55.2 MB/s<br>
      <br>
      But when I disable gro on the storage NIC, It boosts to 157 MB/s.<br>
      That is already better, but still way below what we have on 2.6.32
      ...<br>
      <br>
      I also did tests on plain machine without Xen, and with the same
      results.<br>
      So it doesn't looks like its Xen related, but more iSCSi/Kernel.<br>
      <br>
      Thanks<br>
      Jean-Louis<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11-10-18 11:18, Dario Faggioli
      wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:173a61217097d75e82009c24bc53236697481106.camel@suse.com">
      <pre wrap="">[Adding Roger]

On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:10 +0200, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
</pre>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <pre wrap="">Hi,

We are hitting some I/O limitation on some of our Xen hypervisors.
The hypervisors are running CentOS 6 with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6 and
4.9.105+ 
kernels.

The hypervisors are attached with 10G network to the SAN network.
And 
there is no congestion at all.
Storage is exported via iSCSI and we use multipathd for failover.
Now we see a performance of +-200MB/sec write speed, but only a poor 
20-30mb/sec read speed on a LUN on the SAN.
This is while testing this on dom0. Same speeds on domU.

If I do the same test on a Xen 4.4.4-34.el6 hypervisor to the same
LUN 
(but attached with 1G), I max out the link (100MB read/write).

</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre wrap="">Right. But, if I've understood correctly, you're changing two things (I
mean between the two tests), i.e., the hypervisor and the NIC.
(BTW, is dom0 kernel the same, or does that also change?).

This makes it harder to narrow things down to where the problem could
be.

What would be useful to see would be the results of running:
- Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 10G NIC / host,
  and compare this with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with the same kernel on the 
  same NIC / host;
- Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 1G NIC / host,
  and compare this with Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with the same kernel on the
  same NIC / host.

This will tell us, if there is a regression between Xen 4.4.x and Xen
4.6.x (as that is _the_only_ thing that varies).

And this is assuming the versions of the dom0 kernels, and of all the
other components involved are the same. If they're not, we need to go
checking, changing one component at a time.

</pre>
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        <pre wrap="">So it really looks like the Xen 4.6 hypervisors are reaching some 
bottleneck. But we couldn't locate it yet :)

</pre>
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      <pre wrap="">There seems to be issues, but from the tests you've performed so far, I
don't think we can conclude the problem is in Xen. And we need to know
at least where the problem most likely is, in order to have any chance
to find it! :-)

</pre>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <pre wrap="">The hypervisor's dom0 has 8 vCPU and 8GB RAM, which should be plenty!

</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre wrap="">Probably. But, just in case, have you tried increasing, e.g., the
number of dom0's vcpus? Is things like vcpu-pinning or similar features
being used? Is the host a NUMA box? (Or, more generally, what are the
characteristics of the host[s]?)

Regards,
Dario
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On Tue, 2018-09-04 at 23:19 +0000, Cohen, Michele wrote:
> Hello,
>=20
> I saw wiki on security and XEN considering adding FreeRTOS.  I was
> wondering if SAFERTOS had been considered as extension to increase
> integrity? =20
>=20
Sorry for replying a bit late.

In case you're still interested, it's not that "Xen added FreeRTOS".
Xen, as an hypervisor, has no idea what operating system runs in
guests, whether it is Linux, FreeBSD, Windows, FreeRTOS or SAFERTOS.

On the other hand, especially if you want to take advantage of some
features and optimizations (paravirtualization, at various levels) is
the operating system that needs to be aware that it is running on Xen.
It needs to be ported on Xen, we can say. (Just FTR, however, at least
on x86, this is not really necessary, if you're happy to run the OS in
a pure and full HVM guest. But still...)

And in fact, that's what has happened, FreeRTOS has been ported to be
able to run on Xen, on ARM:

https://github.com/GaloisInc/FreeRTOS-Xen

> SAFERTOS is based on the functional model of the FreeRTOS kernel,
> however, it is not the FreeRTOS kernel. It has been completely re-
> designed by a team of functional safety experts at WHIS. Their
> engineers took the FreeRTOS kernel functional model, subjected it to
> a full HAZOP, and generated a set of safety requirements. The
> resulting functional and safety requirements sets were put through an
> IEC 61508-3 SIL 3 development life cycle, creating the SAFERTOS code
> base and DAP.
>=20
Right. If someone wants to port SAFERTOS on Xen (on ARM?), that would
be more than welcome. :-)

Regards,
Dario
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Hi all,

I have just installed Ubuntu 18.04 64bits from a network install ( 
mini.iso ) on a dell poweredge r200 ...

Then, I have installed xen ... and created a xenbr0 bridge

So, after a reboot I get :

/root@ubuntu1:/etc/xen# xl list//
//Name                                        ID   Mem VCPUs    State    
Time(s)//
//Domain-0                                     0  3962 2     r-----    
6479.4/

Then, I have tried to start a VM with the following configuration :

firmware_override="/usr/lib/xen-4.9/boot/hvmloader"
memory = 1000
builder = "hvm"
me = "mini"
name = "mini"
vcpus = 1
acpi=1
apic=1
vif = [ "type=ioemu, bridge=xenbr0" ]
disk = [ 'file:/data/xen/preprod.img,ioemu:hda,w' ]
ne2000=0
boot="c"
audio=1
soundhw='hda'
sdl=0
vnc=1
vncunused=0
stdvga=1
serial="pty"
usb=1
keymap='fr'
usbdevice = 'tablet'

But when I "create" the instance, I get the following error message :

libxl: error: libxl_create.c:554:libxl__domain_make: domain creation 
fail: Invalid argument
libxl: error: libxl_create.c:923:initiate_domain_create: cannot make 
domain: -3

What does it mean ? How could I get more information about this problem ?

Thanks a lot for your help

Stéphane

PS: All works very well on a xubuntu 18.04 64bits.




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    <p>Hi all, <br>
    </p>
    <p>I have just installed Ubuntu 18.04 64bits from a network install
      ( mini.iso ) on a dell poweredge r200 ... <br>
    </p>
    <p>Then, I have installed xen ... and created a xenbr0 bridge<br>
    </p>
    <p>So, after a reboot I get :</p>
    <p><i>root@ubuntu1:/etc/xen# xl list</i><i><br>
      </i><i>Name                                        ID   Mem
        VCPUs    State    Time(s)</i><i><br>
      </i><i>Domain-0                                     0  3962    
        2     r-----    6479.4</i></p>
    <p>Then, I have tried to start a VM with the following configuration
      :</p>
    <p>firmware_override="/usr/lib/xen-4.9/boot/hvmloader"<br>
      memory = 1000<br>
      builder = "hvm"<br>
      me = "mini"<br>
      name = "mini"<br>
      vcpus = 1<br>
      acpi=1<br>
      apic=1<br>
      vif = [ "type=ioemu, bridge=xenbr0" ]<br>
      disk = [ '<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="file:/data/xen/preprod.img,ioemu:hda,w">file:/data/xen/preprod.img,ioemu:hda,w</a>' ]<br>
      ne2000=0<br>
      boot="c"<br>
      audio=1<br>
      soundhw='hda'<br>
      sdl=0<br>
      vnc=1<br>
      vncunused=0<br>
      stdvga=1<br>
      serial="pty"<br>
      usb=1<br>
      keymap='fr'<br>
      usbdevice = 'tablet'<br>
    </p>
    <p>But when I "create" the instance, I get the following error
      message :</p>
    <p>libxl: error: libxl_create.c:554:libxl__domain_make: domain
      creation fail: Invalid argument<br>
      libxl: error: libxl_create.c:923:initiate_domain_create: cannot
      make domain: -3</p>
    <p>What does it mean ? How could I get more information about this
      problem ?</p>
    <p>Thanks a lot for your help</p>
    <p>Stéphane<br>
    </p>
    <p>PS: All works very well on a xubuntu 18.04 64bits.<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
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Hello

I am trying to start "Rust" game on xen vm. Once I start game my host
instantly reboots (dom0 domu, everything). Xenserver logs are empty.
crashreports are not generated too. This game is using EasyAntiCheat so I
believe it has something to prevent running in vm.

I believe it is very important issue because:
1. it makes xen instant crash (ddos of xenserver host).
2. this anti cheat product is very popular.

About software:
my vm has no video drivers/gpu.
I am using XenServer 7.1 with all updates installed.
xl info
release                : 4.4.0+2
version                : #1 SMP Thu Aug 9 14:44:35 UTC 2018
machine                : x86_64
xen_version            : 4.7.5-1.21
xen_caps               : xen-3.0-x86_64 xen-3.0-x86_32p hvm-3.0-x86_32
hvm-3.0-x86_32p hvm-3.0-x86_64
xen_scheduler          : credit
xen_pagesize           : 4096
platform_params        : virt_start=0xffff800000000000
xen_changeset          : bcc9e245aafb, pq 669c219fb460
xen_commandline        : dom0_mem=4096M,max:4096M watchdog ucode=scan
dom0_max_vcpus=1-16 crashkernel=128M@256M console=vga vga=mode-0x0311
cc_compiler            : gcc (GCC) 7.3.0
cc_compile_by          : mockbuild
cc_compile_domain      : [unknown]
cc_compile_date        : Mon Aug 13 23:40:12 UTC 2018
build_id               : 1aa77301929623f3bb178331ef5f319c130acfce

Can you help me to debug issue please? May be you have some server with xen
running too and Rust game in your steam library?

Thank you, Alex

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elieve it has something to prevent running in vm.</div><div><br></div><div>=
I believe it is very important issue because:</div><div>1. it makes xen ins=
tant crash (ddos of xenserver host).</div><div>2. this anti cheat product i=
s very popular.</div><div><br></div><div>About software:</div><div>my vm ha=
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x86_32 hvm-3.0-x86_32p hvm-3.0-x86_64</div><div>xen_scheduler=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : credit</div><div>xen_pagesize=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: 4096</div><div>platform_params=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
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andline=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : dom0_mem=3D4096M,max:4096M watchdog uc=
ode=3Dscan dom0_max_vcpus=3D1-16 crashkernel=3D128M@256M console=3Dvga vga=
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Hi,

Shame on me ... The virtualization was not activated !

After the activation from the bios, all works very well

Regards,

Stéphane


Le 15/10/2018 à 15:51, Stéphane PERON a écrit :
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have just installed Ubuntu 18.04 64bits from a network install ( 
> mini.iso ) on a dell poweredge r200 ...
>
> Then, I have installed xen ... and created a xenbr0 bridge
>
> So, after a reboot I get :
>
> /root@ubuntu1:/etc/xen# xl list//
> //Name                                        ID   Mem VCPUs    
> State    Time(s)//
> //Domain-0                                     0  3962 2     r-----    
> 6479.4/
>
> Then, I have tried to start a VM with the following configuration :
>
> firmware_override="/usr/lib/xen-4.9/boot/hvmloader"
> memory = 1000
> builder = "hvm"
> me = "mini"
> name = "mini"
> vcpus = 1
> acpi=1
> apic=1
> vif = [ "type=ioemu, bridge=xenbr0" ]
> disk = [ 'file:/data/xen/preprod.img,ioemu:hda,w' ]
> ne2000=0
> boot="c"
> audio=1
> soundhw='hda'
> sdl=0
> vnc=1
> vncunused=0
> stdvga=1
> serial="pty"
> usb=1
> keymap='fr'
> usbdevice = 'tablet'
>
> But when I "create" the instance, I get the following error message :
>
> libxl: error: libxl_create.c:554:libxl__domain_make: domain creation 
> fail: Invalid argument
> libxl: error: libxl_create.c:923:initiate_domain_create: cannot make 
> domain: -3
>
> What does it mean ? How could I get more information about this problem ?
>
> Thanks a lot for your help
>
> Stéphane
>
> PS: All works very well on a xubuntu 18.04 64bits.
>
>
>
>
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    <p>Hi,</p>
    <p>Shame on me ... The virtualization was not activated !</p>
    <p>After the activation from the bios, all works very well</p>
    <p>Regards,<br>
    </p>
    <p>Stéphane<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 15/10/2018 à 15:51, Stéphane PERON a
      écrit :<br>
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      <p>Hi all, <br>
      </p>
      <p>I have just installed Ubuntu 18.04 64bits from a network
        install ( mini.iso ) on a dell poweredge r200 ... <br>
      </p>
      <p>Then, I have installed xen ... and created a xenbr0 bridge<br>
      </p>
      <p>So, after a reboot I get :</p>
      <p><i>root@ubuntu1:/etc/xen# xl list</i><i><br>
        </i><i>Name                                        ID   Mem
          VCPUs    State    Time(s)</i><i><br>
        </i><i>Domain-0                                     0  3962    
          2     r-----    6479.4</i></p>
      <p>Then, I have tried to start a VM with the following
        configuration :</p>
      <p>firmware_override="/usr/lib/xen-4.9/boot/hvmloader"<br>
        memory = 1000<br>
        builder = "hvm"<br>
        me = "mini"<br>
        name = "mini"<br>
        vcpus = 1<br>
        acpi=1<br>
        apic=1<br>
        vif = [ "type=ioemu, bridge=xenbr0" ]<br>
        disk = [ '<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
          href="file:/data/xen/preprod.img,ioemu:hda,w"
          moz-do-not-send="true">file:/data/xen/preprod.img,ioemu:hda,w</a>'
        ]<br>
        ne2000=0<br>
        boot="c"<br>
        audio=1<br>
        soundhw='hda'<br>
        sdl=0<br>
        vnc=1<br>
        vncunused=0<br>
        stdvga=1<br>
        serial="pty"<br>
        usb=1<br>
        keymap='fr'<br>
        usbdevice = 'tablet'<br>
      </p>
      <p>But when I "create" the instance, I get the following error
        message :</p>
      <p>libxl: error: libxl_create.c:554:libxl__domain_make: domain
        creation fail: Invalid argument<br>
        libxl: error: libxl_create.c:923:initiate_domain_create: cannot
        make domain: -3</p>
      <p>What does it mean ? How could I get more information about this
        problem ?</p>
      <p>Thanks a lot for your help</p>
      <p>Stéphane<br>
      </p>
      <p>PS: All works very well on a xubuntu 18.04 64bits.<br>
      </p>
      <p><br>
      </p>
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Did even more testing today, and seems like we hit 2 problems.

On a plain 4.9.13 kernel, without Xen, I get 686 MB/s.
With Xen (on dom0) => 58.8 MB/s

But after upgrade to 4.9.127
without Xen => 161 MB/s
with Xen => 40.3 MB/s

Then I tried downgrading to Xen xen-4.6.6-8.el6.x86_64
And that gives the following.

With 4.9.13 kernel: 107 MB/s
With 4.9.127 kernel: 61.9 MB/s

It might be retpoline/spectre/meltdown changes?
Tried adding 'spectre_v2=off nopti' to the boot line on 4.9.127 kernel 
(without Xen), and then it speed is 171 MB/s (10 MB/s faster)

Seems like this will be a hard one to debug further :(

Any other idea's are welcome :)

Thanks
Jean-Louis

On 11/10/18 17:15, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
>
> FYI,
>
> After some additional debugging, I found out that on the machine the 
> speed is perfect when running stock CentOS 6 kernel (2.6.32).
> When using a 4.9.x of 4.18.x kernel, the speed is degraded again.
>
> Speed on 2.6.32: 320 MB/s
> Speed on 4.9.x : 55.2 MB/s
>
> But when I disable gro on the storage NIC, It boosts to 157 MB/s.
> That is already better, but still way below what we have on 2.6.32 ...
>
> I also did tests on plain machine without Xen, and with the same results.
> So it doesn't looks like its Xen related, but more iSCSi/Kernel.
>
> Thanks
> Jean-Louis
>
>
> On 11-10-18 11:18, Dario Faggioli wrote:
>> [Adding Roger]
>>
>> On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:10 +0200, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We are hitting some I/O limitation on some of our Xen hypervisors.
>>> The hypervisors are running CentOS 6 with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6 and
>>> 4.9.105+
>>> kernels.
>>>
>>> The hypervisors are attached with 10G network to the SAN network.
>>> And
>>> there is no congestion at all.
>>> Storage is exported via iSCSI and we use multipathd for failover.
>>> Now we see a performance of +-200MB/sec write speed, but only a poor
>>> 20-30mb/sec read speed on a LUN on the SAN.
>>> This is while testing this on dom0. Same speeds on domU.
>>>
>>> If I do the same test on a Xen 4.4.4-34.el6 hypervisor to the same
>>> LUN
>>> (but attached with 1G), I max out the link (100MB read/write).
>>>
>> Right. But, if I've understood correctly, you're changing two things (I
>> mean between the two tests), i.e., the hypervisor and the NIC.
>> (BTW, is dom0 kernel the same, or does that also change?).
>>
>> This makes it harder to narrow things down to where the problem could
>> be.
>>
>> What would be useful to see would be the results of running:
>> - Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 10G NIC / host,
>>    and compare this with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with the same kernel on the
>>    same NIC / host;
>> - Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 1G NIC / host,
>>    and compare this with Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with the same kernel on the
>>    same NIC / host.
>>
>> This will tell us, if there is a regression between Xen 4.4.x and Xen
>> 4.6.x (as that is _the_only_ thing that varies).
>>
>> And this is assuming the versions of the dom0 kernels, and of all the
>> other components involved are the same. If they're not, we need to go
>> checking, changing one component at a time.
>>
>>> So it really looks like the Xen 4.6 hypervisors are reaching some
>>> bottleneck. But we couldn't locate it yet :)
>>>
>> There seems to be issues, but from the tests you've performed so far, I
>> don't think we can conclude the problem is in Xen. And we need to know
>> at least where the problem most likely is, in order to have any chance
>> to find it! :-)
>>
>>> The hypervisor's dom0 has 8 vCPU and 8GB RAM, which should be plenty!
>>>
>> Probably. But, just in case, have you tried increasing, e.g., the
>> number of dom0's vcpus? Is things like vcpu-pinning or similar features
>> being used? Is the host a NUMA box? (Or, more generally, what are the
>> characteristics of the host[s]?)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dario
>>
>>
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    <p>Did even more testing today, and seems like we hit 2 problems.</p>
    <p>On a plain 4.9.13 kernel, without Xen, I get 686 MB/s.<br>
      With Xen (on dom0) =&gt; 58.8 MB/s</p>
    <p>But after upgrade to 4.9.127<br>
      without Xen =&gt; 161 MB/s<br>
      with Xen =&gt; 40.3 MB/s</p>
    <p>Then I tried downgrading to Xen xen-4.6.6-8.el6.x86_64<br>
      And that gives the following.</p>
    <p>With 4.9.13 kernel: 107 MB/s<br>
      With 4.9.127 kernel: 61.9 MB/s</p>
    <p>It might be retpoline/spectre/meltdown changes?<br>
      Tried adding 'spectre_v2=off nopti' to the boot line on 4.9.127
      kernel (without Xen), and then it speed is 171 MB/s (10 MB/s
      faster)<br>
    </p>
    <p>Seems like this will be a hard one to debug further :(<br>
    </p>
    <p>Any other idea's are welcome :)</p>
    <p>Thanks<br>
      Jean-Louis<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/18 17:15, Jean-Louis Dupond
      wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:a41e9d65-b847-dc80-4c07-0bce5fd03de7@dupond.be">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <p>FYI,</p>
      <p>After some additional debugging, I found out that on the
        machine the speed is perfect when running stock CentOS 6 kernel
        (2.6.32).<br>
        When using a 4.9.x of 4.18.x kernel, the speed is degraded
        again.</p>
      <p>Speed on 2.6.32: 320 MB/s<br>
        Speed on 4.9.x : 55.2 MB/s<br>
        <br>
        But when I disable gro on the storage NIC, It boosts to 157
        MB/s.<br>
        That is already better, but still way below what we have on
        2.6.32 ...<br>
        <br>
        I also did tests on plain machine without Xen, and with the same
        results.<br>
        So it doesn't looks like its Xen related, but more iSCSi/Kernel.<br>
        <br>
        Thanks<br>
        Jean-Louis<br>
      </p>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11-10-18 11:18, Dario Faggioli
        wrote:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type="cite"
        cite="mid:173a61217097d75e82009c24bc53236697481106.camel@suse.com">
        <pre wrap="">[Adding Roger]

On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:10 +0200, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
</pre>
        <blockquote type="cite">
          <pre wrap="">Hi,

We are hitting some I/O limitation on some of our Xen hypervisors.
The hypervisors are running CentOS 6 with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6 and
4.9.105+ 
kernels.

The hypervisors are attached with 10G network to the SAN network.
And 
there is no congestion at all.
Storage is exported via iSCSI and we use multipathd for failover.
Now we see a performance of +-200MB/sec write speed, but only a poor 
20-30mb/sec read speed on a LUN on the SAN.
This is while testing this on dom0. Same speeds on domU.

If I do the same test on a Xen 4.4.4-34.el6 hypervisor to the same
LUN 
(but attached with 1G), I max out the link (100MB read/write).

</pre>
        </blockquote>
        <pre wrap="">Right. But, if I've understood correctly, you're changing two things (I
mean between the two tests), i.e., the hypervisor and the NIC.
(BTW, is dom0 kernel the same, or does that also change?).

This makes it harder to narrow things down to where the problem could
be.

What would be useful to see would be the results of running:
- Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 10G NIC / host,
  and compare this with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with the same kernel on the 
  same NIC / host;
- Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 1G NIC / host,
  and compare this with Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with the same kernel on the
  same NIC / host.

This will tell us, if there is a regression between Xen 4.4.x and Xen
4.6.x (as that is _the_only_ thing that varies).

And this is assuming the versions of the dom0 kernels, and of all the
other components involved are the same. If they're not, we need to go
checking, changing one component at a time.

</pre>
        <blockquote type="cite">
          <pre wrap="">So it really looks like the Xen 4.6 hypervisors are reaching some 
bottleneck. But we couldn't locate it yet :)

</pre>
        </blockquote>
        <pre wrap="">There seems to be issues, but from the tests you've performed so far, I
don't think we can conclude the problem is in Xen. And we need to know
at least where the problem most likely is, in order to have any chance
to find it! :-)

</pre>
        <blockquote type="cite">
          <pre wrap="">The hypervisor's dom0 has 8 vCPU and 8GB RAM, which should be plenty!

</pre>
        </blockquote>
        <pre wrap="">Probably. But, just in case, have you tried increasing, e.g., the
number of dom0's vcpus? Is things like vcpu-pinning or similar features
being used? Is the host a NUMA box? (Or, more generally, what are the
characteristics of the host[s]?)

Regards,
Dario
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Hello,

You might be hitting the issue that has been discussed here:
https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-users/2017-07/msg00023.htm=
l

We solved the issue by upgrading to the latest backport kernel (4.14 at
the time), it seemed due to a loop device regression in Linux.

Maybe you should try with a more recent kernel ?

Cheers,
--
Matthieu CERDA

Le 16/10/2018 =C3=A0 16:53, Jean-Louis Dupond a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
>
> Did even more testing today, and seems like we hit 2 problems.
>
> On a plain 4.9.13 kernel, without Xen, I get 686 MB/s.
> With Xen (on dom0) =3D> 58.8 MB/s
>
> But after upgrade to 4.9.127
> without Xen =3D> 161 MB/s
> with Xen =3D> 40.3 MB/s
>
> Then I tried downgrading to Xen xen-4.6.6-8.el6.x86_64
> And that gives the following.
>
> With 4.9.13 kernel: 107 MB/s
> With 4.9.127 kernel: 61.9 MB/s
>
> It might be retpoline/spectre/meltdown changes?
> Tried adding 'spectre_v2=3Doff nopti' to the boot line on 4.9.127 kerne=
l
> (without Xen), and then it speed is 171 MB/s (10 MB/s faster)
>
> Seems like this will be a hard one to debug further :(
>
> Any other idea's are welcome :)
>
> Thanks
> Jean-Louis
>
> On 11/10/18 17:15, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
>>
>> FYI,
>>
>> After some additional debugging, I found out that on the machine the
>> speed is perfect when running stock CentOS 6 kernel (2.6.32).
>> When using a 4.9.x of 4.18.x kernel, the speed is degraded again.
>>
>> Speed on 2.6.32: 320 MB/s
>> Speed on 4.9.x : 55.2 MB/s
>>
>> But when I disable gro on the storage NIC, It boosts to 157 MB/s.
>> That is already better, but still way below what we have on 2.6.32 ...=

>>
>> I also did tests on plain machine without Xen, and with the same resul=
ts.
>> So it doesn't looks like its Xen related, but more iSCSi/Kernel.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jean-Louis
>>
>>
>> On 11-10-18 11:18, Dario Faggioli wrote:
>>> [Adding Roger]
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:10 +0200, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> We are hitting some I/O limitation on some of our Xen hypervisors.
>>>> The hypervisors are running CentOS 6 with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6 and
>>>> 4.9.105+=20
>>>> kernels.
>>>>
>>>> The hypervisors are attached with 10G network to the SAN network.
>>>> And=20
>>>> there is no congestion at all.
>>>> Storage is exported via iSCSI and we use multipathd for failover.
>>>> Now we see a performance of +-200MB/sec write speed, but only a poor=
=20
>>>> 20-30mb/sec read speed on a LUN on the SAN.
>>>> This is while testing this on dom0. Same speeds on domU.
>>>>
>>>> If I do the same test on a Xen 4.4.4-34.el6 hypervisor to the same
>>>> LUN=20
>>>> (but attached with 1G), I max out the link (100MB read/write).
>>>>
>>> Right. But, if I've understood correctly, you're changing two things =
(I
>>> mean between the two tests), i.e., the hypervisor and the NIC.
>>> (BTW, is dom0 kernel the same, or does that also change?).
>>>
>>> This makes it harder to narrow things down to where the problem could=

>>> be.
>>>
>>> What would be useful to see would be the results of running:
>>> - Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 10G NIC / host,
>>>   and compare this with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with the same kernel on the=
=20
>>>   same NIC / host;
>>> - Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 1G NIC / host,
>>>   and compare this with Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with the same kernel on the=

>>>   same NIC / host.
>>>
>>> This will tell us, if there is a regression between Xen 4.4.x and Xen=

>>> 4.6.x (as that is _the_only_ thing that varies).
>>>
>>> And this is assuming the versions of the dom0 kernels, and of all the=

>>> other components involved are the same. If they're not, we need to go=

>>> checking, changing one component at a time.
>>>
>>>> So it really looks like the Xen 4.6 hypervisors are reaching some=20
>>>> bottleneck. But we couldn't locate it yet :)
>>>>
>>> There seems to be issues, but from the tests you've performed so far,=
 I
>>> don't think we can conclude the problem is in Xen. And we need to kno=
w
>>> at least where the problem most likely is, in order to have any chanc=
e
>>> to find it! :-)
>>>
>>>> The hypervisor's dom0 has 8 vCPU and 8GB RAM, which should be plenty=
!
>>>>
>>> Probably. But, just in case, have you tried increasing, e.g., the
>>> number of dom0's vcpus? Is things like vcpu-pinning or similar featur=
es
>>> being used? Is the host a NUMA box? (Or, more generally, what are the=

>>> characteristics of the host[s]?)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dario

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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Hello,</div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">You might be hitting the issue that ha=
s
      been discussed here:
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://lists.xenproject.org/a=
rchives/html/xen-users/2017-07/msg00023.html">https://lists.xenproject.or=
g/archives/html/xen-users/2017-07/msg00023.html</a></div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">We solved the issue by upgrading to th=
e
      latest backport kernel (4.14 at the time), it seemed due to a loop
      device regression in Linux.</div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Maybe you should try with a more recen=
t
      kernel ?</div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Cheers,</div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">--</div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Matthieu CERDA<br>
    </div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Le 16/10/2018 =C3=A0 16:53, Jean-Louis=

      Dupond a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite"
      cite=3D"mid:fdc912c7-a0d7-25a4-0416-5f5bf2858174@dupond.be">
      <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DU=
TF-8">
      <p>Did even more testing today, and seems like we hit 2 problems.</=
p>
      <p>On a plain 4.9.13 kernel, without Xen, I get 686 MB/s.<br>
        With Xen (on dom0) =3D&gt; 58.8 MB/s</p>
      <p>But after upgrade to 4.9.127<br>
        without Xen =3D&gt; 161 MB/s<br>
        with Xen =3D&gt; 40.3 MB/s</p>
      <p>Then I tried downgrading to Xen xen-4.6.6-8.el6.x86_64<br>
        And that gives the following.</p>
      <p>With 4.9.13 kernel: 107 MB/s<br>
        With 4.9.127 kernel: 61.9 MB/s</p>
      <p>It might be retpoline/spectre/meltdown changes?<br>
        Tried adding 'spectre_v2=3Doff nopti' to the boot line on 4.9.127=

        kernel (without Xen), and then it speed is 171 MB/s (10 MB/s
        faster)<br>
      </p>
      <p>Seems like this will be a hard one to debug further :(<br>
      </p>
      <p>Any other idea's are welcome :)</p>
      <p>Thanks<br>
        Jean-Louis<br>
      </p>
      <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/18 17:15, Jean-Louis Dupond=

        wrote:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type=3D"cite"
        cite=3D"mid:a41e9d65-b847-dc80-4c07-0bce5fd03de7@dupond.be">
        <p>FYI,</p>
        <p>After some additional debugging, I found out that on the
          machine the speed is perfect when running stock CentOS 6
          kernel (2.6.32).<br>
          When using a 4.9.x of 4.18.x kernel, the speed is degraded
          again.</p>
        <p>Speed on 2.6.32: 320 MB/s<br>
          Speed on 4.9.x : 55.2 MB/s<br>
          <br>
          But when I disable gro on the storage NIC, It boosts to 157
          MB/s.<br>
          That is already better, but still way below what we have on
          2.6.32 ...<br>
          <br>
          I also did tests on plain machine without Xen, and with the
          same results.<br>
          So it doesn't looks like its Xen related, but more
          iSCSi/Kernel.<br>
          <br>
          Thanks<br>
          Jean-Louis<br>
        </p>
        <br>
        <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 11-10-18 11:18, Dario Faggioli
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote type=3D"cite"
          cite=3D"mid:173a61217097d75e82009c24bc53236697481106.camel@suse=
=2Ecom">
          <pre wrap=3D"">[Adding Roger]

On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:10 +0200, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
</pre>
          <blockquote type=3D"cite">
            <pre wrap=3D"">Hi,

We are hitting some I/O limitation on some of our Xen hypervisors.
The hypervisors are running CentOS 6 with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6 and
4.9.105+=20
kernels.

The hypervisors are attached with 10G network to the SAN network.
And=20
there is no congestion at all.
Storage is exported via iSCSI and we use multipathd for failover.
Now we see a performance of +-200MB/sec write speed, but only a poor=20
20-30mb/sec read speed on a LUN on the SAN.
This is while testing this on dom0. Same speeds on domU.

If I do the same test on a Xen 4.4.4-34.el6 hypervisor to the same
LUN=20
(but attached with 1G), I max out the link (100MB read/write).

</pre>
          </blockquote>
          <pre wrap=3D"">Right. But, if I've understood correctly, you're=
 changing two things (I
mean between the two tests), i.e., the hypervisor and the NIC.
(BTW, is dom0 kernel the same, or does that also change?).

This makes it harder to narrow things down to where the problem could
be.

What would be useful to see would be the results of running:
- Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 10G NIC / host,
  and compare this with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with the same kernel on the=20
  same NIC / host;
- Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 1G NIC / host,
  and compare this with Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with the same kernel on the
  same NIC / host.

This will tell us, if there is a regression between Xen 4.4.x and Xen
4.6.x (as that is _the_only_ thing that varies).

And this is assuming the versions of the dom0 kernels, and of all the
other components involved are the same. If they're not, we need to go
checking, changing one component at a time.

</pre>
          <blockquote type=3D"cite">
            <pre wrap=3D"">So it really looks like the Xen 4.6 hypervisor=
s are reaching some=20
bottleneck. But we couldn't locate it yet :)

</pre>
          </blockquote>
          <pre wrap=3D"">There seems to be issues, but from the tests you=
've performed so far, I
don't think we can conclude the problem is in Xen. And we need to know
at least where the problem most likely is, in order to have any chance
to find it! :-)

</pre>
          <blockquote type=3D"cite">
            <pre wrap=3D"">The hypervisor's dom0 has 8 vCPU and 8GB RAM, =
which should be plenty!

</pre>
          </blockquote>
          <pre wrap=3D"">Probably. But, just in case, have you tried incr=
easing, e.g., the
number of dom0's vcpus? Is things like vcpu-pinning or similar features
being used? Is the host a NUMA box? (Or, more generally, what are the
characteristics of the host[s]?)

Regards,
Dario
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Hi Matthieu,

I did all tests on dom0, and the bug listed there seems only to affect domU.
So I doubt this will be related.

Thanks
Jean-Louis

On 16/10/18 17:11, Matthieu Cerda wrote:
> Hello,
>
> You might be hitting the issue that has been discussed here: 
> https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-users/2017-07/msg00023.html
>
> We solved the issue by upgrading to the latest backport kernel (4.14 
> at the time), it seemed due to a loop device regression in Linux.
>
> Maybe you should try with a more recent kernel ?
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Matthieu CERDA
>
> Le 16/10/2018 à 16:53, Jean-Louis Dupond a écrit :
>>
>> Did even more testing today, and seems like we hit 2 problems.
>>
>> On a plain 4.9.13 kernel, without Xen, I get 686 MB/s.
>> With Xen (on dom0) => 58.8 MB/s
>>
>> But after upgrade to 4.9.127
>> without Xen => 161 MB/s
>> with Xen => 40.3 MB/s
>>
>> Then I tried downgrading to Xen xen-4.6.6-8.el6.x86_64
>> And that gives the following.
>>
>> With 4.9.13 kernel: 107 MB/s
>> With 4.9.127 kernel: 61.9 MB/s
>>
>> It might be retpoline/spectre/meltdown changes?
>> Tried adding 'spectre_v2=off nopti' to the boot line on 4.9.127 
>> kernel (without Xen), and then it speed is 171 MB/s (10 MB/s faster)
>>
>> Seems like this will be a hard one to debug further :(
>>
>> Any other idea's are welcome :)
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jean-Louis
>>
>> On 11/10/18 17:15, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
>>>
>>> FYI,
>>>
>>> After some additional debugging, I found out that on the machine the 
>>> speed is perfect when running stock CentOS 6 kernel (2.6.32).
>>> When using a 4.9.x of 4.18.x kernel, the speed is degraded again.
>>>
>>> Speed on 2.6.32: 320 MB/s
>>> Speed on 4.9.x : 55.2 MB/s
>>>
>>> But when I disable gro on the storage NIC, It boosts to 157 MB/s.
>>> That is already better, but still way below what we have on 2.6.32 ...
>>>
>>> I also did tests on plain machine without Xen, and with the same 
>>> results.
>>> So it doesn't looks like its Xen related, but more iSCSi/Kernel.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jean-Louis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11-10-18 11:18, Dario Faggioli wrote:
>>>> [Adding Roger]
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:10 +0200, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> We are hitting some I/O limitation on some of our Xen hypervisors.
>>>>> The hypervisors are running CentOS 6 with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6 and
>>>>> 4.9.105+
>>>>> kernels.
>>>>>
>>>>> The hypervisors are attached with 10G network to the SAN network.
>>>>> And
>>>>> there is no congestion at all.
>>>>> Storage is exported via iSCSI and we use multipathd for failover.
>>>>> Now we see a performance of +-200MB/sec write speed, but only a poor
>>>>> 20-30mb/sec read speed on a LUN on the SAN.
>>>>> This is while testing this on dom0. Same speeds on domU.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I do the same test on a Xen 4.4.4-34.el6 hypervisor to the same
>>>>> LUN
>>>>> (but attached with 1G), I max out the link (100MB read/write).
>>>>>
>>>> Right. But, if I've understood correctly, you're changing two things (I
>>>> mean between the two tests), i.e., the hypervisor and the NIC.
>>>> (BTW, is dom0 kernel the same, or does that also change?).
>>>>
>>>> This makes it harder to narrow things down to where the problem could
>>>> be.
>>>>
>>>> What would be useful to see would be the results of running:
>>>> - Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 10G NIC / host,
>>>>    and compare this with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with the same kernel on the
>>>>    same NIC / host;
>>>> - Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 1G NIC / host,
>>>>    and compare this with Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with the same kernel on the
>>>>    same NIC / host.
>>>>
>>>> This will tell us, if there is a regression between Xen 4.4.x and Xen
>>>> 4.6.x (as that is _the_only_ thing that varies).
>>>>
>>>> And this is assuming the versions of the dom0 kernels, and of all the
>>>> other components involved are the same. If they're not, we need to go
>>>> checking, changing one component at a time.
>>>>
>>>>> So it really looks like the Xen 4.6 hypervisors are reaching some
>>>>> bottleneck. But we couldn't locate it yet :)
>>>>>
>>>> There seems to be issues, but from the tests you've performed so far, I
>>>> don't think we can conclude the problem is in Xen. And we need to know
>>>> at least where the problem most likely is, in order to have any chance
>>>> to find it! :-)
>>>>
>>>>> The hypervisor's dom0 has 8 vCPU and 8GB RAM, which should be plenty!
>>>>>
>>>> Probably. But, just in case, have you tried increasing, e.g., the
>>>> number of dom0's vcpus? Is things like vcpu-pinning or similar features
>>>> being used? Is the host a NUMA box? (Or, more generally, what are the
>>>> characteristics of the host[s]?)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dario
>
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    <p>Hi Matthieu,</p>
    <p>I did all tests on dom0, and the bug listed there seems only to
      affect domU.<br>
      So I doubt this will be related.</p>
    <p>Thanks<br>
      Jean-Louis<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/10/18 17:11, Matthieu Cerda
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:1a5e1fff-cd21-1e2f-509c-7a3b07f70a0d@nbs-system.com">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hello,</div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
      </div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">You might be hitting the issue that
        has been discussed here:
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-users/2017-07/msg00023.html"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-users/2017-07/msg00023.html</a></div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
      </div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">We solved the issue by upgrading to
        the latest backport kernel (4.14 at the time), it seemed due to
        a loop device regression in Linux.</div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
      </div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Maybe you should try with a more
        recent kernel ?</div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
      </div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Cheers,</div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">--</div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Matthieu CERDA<br>
      </div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
      </div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 16/10/2018 à 16:53, Jean-Louis
        Dupond a écrit :<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type="cite"
        cite="mid:fdc912c7-a0d7-25a4-0416-5f5bf2858174@dupond.be">
        <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
          charset=UTF-8">
        <p>Did even more testing today, and seems like we hit 2
          problems.</p>
        <p>On a plain 4.9.13 kernel, without Xen, I get 686 MB/s.<br>
          With Xen (on dom0) =&gt; 58.8 MB/s</p>
        <p>But after upgrade to 4.9.127<br>
          without Xen =&gt; 161 MB/s<br>
          with Xen =&gt; 40.3 MB/s</p>
        <p>Then I tried downgrading to Xen xen-4.6.6-8.el6.x86_64<br>
          And that gives the following.</p>
        <p>With 4.9.13 kernel: 107 MB/s<br>
          With 4.9.127 kernel: 61.9 MB/s</p>
        <p>It might be retpoline/spectre/meltdown changes?<br>
          Tried adding 'spectre_v2=off nopti' to the boot line on
          4.9.127 kernel (without Xen), and then it speed is 171 MB/s
          (10 MB/s faster)<br>
        </p>
        <p>Seems like this will be a hard one to debug further :(<br>
        </p>
        <p>Any other idea's are welcome :)</p>
        <p>Thanks<br>
          Jean-Louis<br>
        </p>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/18 17:15, Jean-Louis
          Dupond wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote type="cite"
          cite="mid:a41e9d65-b847-dc80-4c07-0bce5fd03de7@dupond.be">
          <p>FYI,</p>
          <p>After some additional debugging, I found out that on the
            machine the speed is perfect when running stock CentOS 6
            kernel (2.6.32).<br>
            When using a 4.9.x of 4.18.x kernel, the speed is degraded
            again.</p>
          <p>Speed on 2.6.32: 320 MB/s<br>
            Speed on 4.9.x : 55.2 MB/s<br>
            <br>
            But when I disable gro on the storage NIC, It boosts to 157
            MB/s.<br>
            That is already better, but still way below what we have on
            2.6.32 ...<br>
            <br>
            I also did tests on plain machine without Xen, and with the
            same results.<br>
            So it doesn't looks like its Xen related, but more
            iSCSi/Kernel.<br>
            <br>
            Thanks<br>
            Jean-Louis<br>
          </p>
          <br>
          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11-10-18 11:18, Dario Faggioli
            wrote:<br>
          </div>
          <blockquote type="cite"
            cite="mid:173a61217097d75e82009c24bc53236697481106.camel@suse.com">
            <pre wrap="">[Adding Roger]

On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:10 +0200, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
</pre>
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <pre wrap="">Hi,

We are hitting some I/O limitation on some of our Xen hypervisors.
The hypervisors are running CentOS 6 with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6 and
4.9.105+ 
kernels.

The hypervisors are attached with 10G network to the SAN network.
And 
there is no congestion at all.
Storage is exported via iSCSI and we use multipathd for failover.
Now we see a performance of +-200MB/sec write speed, but only a poor 
20-30mb/sec read speed on a LUN on the SAN.
This is while testing this on dom0. Same speeds on domU.

If I do the same test on a Xen 4.4.4-34.el6 hypervisor to the same
LUN 
(but attached with 1G), I max out the link (100MB read/write).

</pre>
            </blockquote>
            <pre wrap="">Right. But, if I've understood correctly, you're changing two things (I
mean between the two tests), i.e., the hypervisor and the NIC.
(BTW, is dom0 kernel the same, or does that also change?).

This makes it harder to narrow things down to where the problem could
be.

What would be useful to see would be the results of running:
- Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 10G NIC / host,
  and compare this with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with the same kernel on the 
  same NIC / host;
- Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 1G NIC / host,
  and compare this with Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with the same kernel on the
  same NIC / host.

This will tell us, if there is a regression between Xen 4.4.x and Xen
4.6.x (as that is _the_only_ thing that varies).

And this is assuming the versions of the dom0 kernels, and of all the
other components involved are the same. If they're not, we need to go
checking, changing one component at a time.

</pre>
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <pre wrap="">So it really looks like the Xen 4.6 hypervisors are reaching some 
bottleneck. But we couldn't locate it yet :)

</pre>
            </blockquote>
            <pre wrap="">There seems to be issues, but from the tests you've performed so far, I
don't think we can conclude the problem is in Xen. And we need to know
at least where the problem most likely is, in order to have any chance
to find it! :-)

</pre>
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <pre wrap="">The hypervisor's dom0 has 8 vCPU and 8GB RAM, which should be plenty!

</pre>
            </blockquote>
            <pre wrap="">Probably. But, just in case, have you tried increasing, e.g., the
number of dom0's vcpus? Is things like vcpu-pinning or similar features
being used? Is the host a NUMA box? (Or, more generally, what are the
characteristics of the host[s]?)

Regards,
Dario
</pre>
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Even did some more tests today :)

Xen 4.8 and 4.10 have the same results. No change there unfortunately :(

But when playing around with dom0 CPU's and pinning, got the following 
results:
dom0 -> 2cpu - no pinning => 73.5 MB/s
dom0 -> 2cpu + pinning => 519 MB/s
dom0 -> 8cpu + pinning => 124 MB/s

This was with 4.9.127-32.el6.x86_64 and Xen 4.10.2-1.el6.

Perfomance inside the VM is still really bad: 18.4 MB/s :(

Thanks
Jean-Louis

On 16/10/18 17:28, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
>
> Hi Matthieu,
>
> I did all tests on dom0, and the bug listed there seems only to affect 
> domU.
> So I doubt this will be related.
>
> Thanks
> Jean-Louis
>
> On 16/10/18 17:11, Matthieu Cerda wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> You might be hitting the issue that has been discussed here: 
>> https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-users/2017-07/msg00023.html
>>
>> We solved the issue by upgrading to the latest backport kernel (4.14 
>> at the time), it seemed due to a loop device regression in Linux.
>>
>> Maybe you should try with a more recent kernel ?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> --
>> Matthieu CERDA
>>
>> Le 16/10/2018 à 16:53, Jean-Louis Dupond a écrit :
>>>
>>> Did even more testing today, and seems like we hit 2 problems.
>>>
>>> On a plain 4.9.13 kernel, without Xen, I get 686 MB/s.
>>> With Xen (on dom0) => 58.8 MB/s
>>>
>>> But after upgrade to 4.9.127
>>> without Xen => 161 MB/s
>>> with Xen => 40.3 MB/s
>>>
>>> Then I tried downgrading to Xen xen-4.6.6-8.el6.x86_64
>>> And that gives the following.
>>>
>>> With 4.9.13 kernel: 107 MB/s
>>> With 4.9.127 kernel: 61.9 MB/s
>>>
>>> It might be retpoline/spectre/meltdown changes?
>>> Tried adding 'spectre_v2=off nopti' to the boot line on 4.9.127 
>>> kernel (without Xen), and then it speed is 171 MB/s (10 MB/s faster)
>>>
>>> Seems like this will be a hard one to debug further :(
>>>
>>> Any other idea's are welcome :)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jean-Louis
>>>
>>> On 11/10/18 17:15, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
>>>>
>>>> FYI,
>>>>
>>>> After some additional debugging, I found out that on the machine 
>>>> the speed is perfect when running stock CentOS 6 kernel (2.6.32).
>>>> When using a 4.9.x of 4.18.x kernel, the speed is degraded again.
>>>>
>>>> Speed on 2.6.32: 320 MB/s
>>>> Speed on 4.9.x : 55.2 MB/s
>>>>
>>>> But when I disable gro on the storage NIC, It boosts to 157 MB/s.
>>>> That is already better, but still way below what we have on 2.6.32 ...
>>>>
>>>> I also did tests on plain machine without Xen, and with the same 
>>>> results.
>>>> So it doesn't looks like its Xen related, but more iSCSi/Kernel.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11-10-18 11:18, Dario Faggioli wrote:
>>>>> [Adding Roger]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:10 +0200, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are hitting some I/O limitation on some of our Xen hypervisors.
>>>>>> The hypervisors are running CentOS 6 with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6 and
>>>>>> 4.9.105+
>>>>>> kernels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The hypervisors are attached with 10G network to the SAN network.
>>>>>> And
>>>>>> there is no congestion at all.
>>>>>> Storage is exported via iSCSI and we use multipathd for failover.
>>>>>> Now we see a performance of +-200MB/sec write speed, but only a poor
>>>>>> 20-30mb/sec read speed on a LUN on the SAN.
>>>>>> This is while testing this on dom0. Same speeds on domU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I do the same test on a Xen 4.4.4-34.el6 hypervisor to the same
>>>>>> LUN
>>>>>> (but attached with 1G), I max out the link (100MB read/write).
>>>>>>
>>>>> Right. But, if I've understood correctly, you're changing two things (I
>>>>> mean between the two tests), i.e., the hypervisor and the NIC.
>>>>> (BTW, is dom0 kernel the same, or does that also change?).
>>>>>
>>>>> This makes it harder to narrow things down to where the problem could
>>>>> be.
>>>>>
>>>>> What would be useful to see would be the results of running:
>>>>> - Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 10G NIC / host,
>>>>>    and compare this with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with the same kernel on the
>>>>>    same NIC / host;
>>>>> - Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 1G NIC / host,
>>>>>    and compare this with Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with the same kernel on the
>>>>>    same NIC / host.
>>>>>
>>>>> This will tell us, if there is a regression between Xen 4.4.x and Xen
>>>>> 4.6.x (as that is _the_only_ thing that varies).
>>>>>
>>>>> And this is assuming the versions of the dom0 kernels, and of all the
>>>>> other components involved are the same. If they're not, we need to go
>>>>> checking, changing one component at a time.
>>>>>
>>>>>> So it really looks like the Xen 4.6 hypervisors are reaching some
>>>>>> bottleneck. But we couldn't locate it yet :)
>>>>>>
>>>>> There seems to be issues, but from the tests you've performed so far, I
>>>>> don't think we can conclude the problem is in Xen. And we need to know
>>>>> at least where the problem most likely is, in order to have any chance
>>>>> to find it! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>> The hypervisor's dom0 has 8 vCPU and 8GB RAM, which should be plenty!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Probably. But, just in case, have you tried increasing, e.g., the
>>>>> number of dom0's vcpus? Is things like vcpu-pinning or similar features
>>>>> being used? Is the host a NUMA box? (Or, more generally, what are the
>>>>> characteristics of the host[s]?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dario
>>
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    <p>Even did some more tests today :)</p>
    <p>Xen 4.8 and 4.10 have the same results. No change there
      unfortunately :(</p>
    <p>But when playing around with dom0 CPU's and pinning, got the
      following results:<br>
      dom0 -&gt; 2cpu - no pinning =&gt; 73.5 MB/s<br>
      dom0 -&gt; 2cpu + pinning =&gt; 519 MB/s<br>
      dom0 -&gt; 8cpu + pinning =&gt; 124 MB/s</p>
    <p>This was with 4.9.127-32.el6.x86_64 and Xen 4.10.2-1.el6.</p>
    <p>Perfomance inside the VM is still really bad: 18.4 MB/s :(</p>
    <p>Thanks<br>
      Jean-Louis<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/10/18 17:28, Jean-Louis Dupond
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:cd356e20-b0fb-25d2-7edf-eedc0d1ad66e@dupond.be">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <p>Hi Matthieu,</p>
      <p>I did all tests on dom0, and the bug listed there seems only to
        affect domU.<br>
        So I doubt this will be related.</p>
      <p>Thanks<br>
        Jean-Louis<br>
      </p>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/10/18 17:11, Matthieu Cerda
        wrote:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type="cite"
        cite="mid:1a5e1fff-cd21-1e2f-509c-7a3b07f70a0d@nbs-system.com">
        <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
          charset=UTF-8">
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hello,</div>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">You might be hitting the issue that
          has been discussed here: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-users/2017-07/msg00023.html"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-users/2017-07/msg00023.html</a></div>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">We solved the issue by upgrading to
          the latest backport kernel (4.14 at the time), it seemed due
          to a loop device regression in Linux.</div>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Maybe you should try with a more
          recent kernel ?</div>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Cheers,</div>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">--</div>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Matthieu CERDA<br>
        </div>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 16/10/2018 à 16:53, Jean-Louis
          Dupond a écrit :<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote type="cite"
          cite="mid:fdc912c7-a0d7-25a4-0416-5f5bf2858174@dupond.be">
          <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
            charset=UTF-8">
          <p>Did even more testing today, and seems like we hit 2
            problems.</p>
          <p>On a plain 4.9.13 kernel, without Xen, I get 686 MB/s.<br>
            With Xen (on dom0) =&gt; 58.8 MB/s</p>
          <p>But after upgrade to 4.9.127<br>
            without Xen =&gt; 161 MB/s<br>
            with Xen =&gt; 40.3 MB/s</p>
          <p>Then I tried downgrading to Xen xen-4.6.6-8.el6.x86_64<br>
            And that gives the following.</p>
          <p>With 4.9.13 kernel: 107 MB/s<br>
            With 4.9.127 kernel: 61.9 MB/s</p>
          <p>It might be retpoline/spectre/meltdown changes?<br>
            Tried adding 'spectre_v2=off nopti' to the boot line on
            4.9.127 kernel (without Xen), and then it speed is 171 MB/s
            (10 MB/s faster)<br>
          </p>
          <p>Seems like this will be a hard one to debug further :(<br>
          </p>
          <p>Any other idea's are welcome :)</p>
          <p>Thanks<br>
            Jean-Louis<br>
          </p>
          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/18 17:15, Jean-Louis
            Dupond wrote:<br>
          </div>
          <blockquote type="cite"
            cite="mid:a41e9d65-b847-dc80-4c07-0bce5fd03de7@dupond.be">
            <p>FYI,</p>
            <p>After some additional debugging, I found out that on the
              machine the speed is perfect when running stock CentOS 6
              kernel (2.6.32).<br>
              When using a 4.9.x of 4.18.x kernel, the speed is degraded
              again.</p>
            <p>Speed on 2.6.32: 320 MB/s<br>
              Speed on 4.9.x : 55.2 MB/s<br>
              <br>
              But when I disable gro on the storage NIC, It boosts to
              157 MB/s.<br>
              That is already better, but still way below what we have
              on 2.6.32 ...<br>
              <br>
              I also did tests on plain machine without Xen, and with
              the same results.<br>
              So it doesn't looks like its Xen related, but more
              iSCSi/Kernel.<br>
              <br>
              Thanks<br>
              Jean-Louis<br>
            </p>
            <br>
            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11-10-18 11:18, Dario
              Faggioli wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote type="cite"
              cite="mid:173a61217097d75e82009c24bc53236697481106.camel@suse.com">
              <pre wrap="">[Adding Roger]

On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:10 +0200, Jean-Louis Dupond wrote:
</pre>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <pre wrap="">Hi,

We are hitting some I/O limitation on some of our Xen hypervisors.
The hypervisors are running CentOS 6 with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6 and
4.9.105+ 
kernels.

The hypervisors are attached with 10G network to the SAN network.
And 
there is no congestion at all.
Storage is exported via iSCSI and we use multipathd for failover.
Now we see a performance of +-200MB/sec write speed, but only a poor 
20-30mb/sec read speed on a LUN on the SAN.
This is while testing this on dom0. Same speeds on domU.

If I do the same test on a Xen 4.4.4-34.el6 hypervisor to the same
LUN 
(but attached with 1G), I max out the link (100MB read/write).

</pre>
              </blockquote>
              <pre wrap="">Right. But, if I've understood correctly, you're changing two things (I
mean between the two tests), i.e., the hypervisor and the NIC.
(BTW, is dom0 kernel the same, or does that also change?).

This makes it harder to narrow things down to where the problem could
be.

What would be useful to see would be the results of running:
- Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 10G NIC / host,
  and compare this with Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with the same kernel on the 
  same NIC / host;
- Xen 4.6.6-12.el6, with 4.9.105+ dom0 kernel on the 1G NIC / host,
  and compare this with Xen 4.4.4-34.el6, with the same kernel on the
  same NIC / host.

This will tell us, if there is a regression between Xen 4.4.x and Xen
4.6.x (as that is _the_only_ thing that varies).

And this is assuming the versions of the dom0 kernels, and of all the
other components involved are the same. If they're not, we need to go
checking, changing one component at a time.

</pre>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <pre wrap="">So it really looks like the Xen 4.6 hypervisors are reaching some 
bottleneck. But we couldn't locate it yet :)

</pre>
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              <pre wrap="">There seems to be issues, but from the tests you've performed so far, I
don't think we can conclude the problem is in Xen. And we need to know
at least where the problem most likely is, in order to have any chance
to find it! :-)

</pre>
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                <pre wrap="">The hypervisor's dom0 has 8 vCPU and 8GB RAM, which should be plenty!

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              <pre wrap="">Probably. But, just in case, have you tried increasing, e.g., the
number of dom0's vcpus? Is things like vcpu-pinning or similar features
being used? Is the host a NUMA box? (Or, more generally, what are the
characteristics of the host[s]?)

Regards,
Dario
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I have two ASUS PRIME Z270-A machines based on Intel Z270 chipset and am
wondering about when support will be available for them and what I can do
to speed this up.

But I have not done anything to do with kernel work since years ago when I
read a lot of the main parts of the Linux 2.4 Kernel. Also I did code to
get into and out of protected mode before this.

Heres the datasheets that cover the chipset :-

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-1.html
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-2.html

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Aaron

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ME Z270-A machines based on Intel Z270 chipset and am wondering about when =
support will be available for them and what I can do to speed this up.</div=
><div><br></div><div>But I have not done anything to do with kernel work si=
nce years ago when I read a lot of the main parts of the Linux 2.4 Kernel. =
Also I did code to get into and out of protected mode before this.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Heres the datasheets that cover the chipset :-</div><div><=
br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/2=
00-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-1.html">https://www.intel.com/content/w=
ww/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-1.html</a></div><div=
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pset-pch-datasheet-vol-2.html">https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chip=
sets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-2.html</a></div><div><br></div><d=
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Hi team,
Please find logs

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Is it possible to enable and share some tty serial device or pipe with a
trusted domU VM?

/tl;dr

I have air-gapped my dom0 (PCI passthrough all NICs to untrusted domUs for
networking, no netback/netfront for dom0).  Aka, the Qubes OS model.

I currently have a RPi connected to the serial header on the system for
console of dom0.  It's on a non-routable dedicated network itself; however,
I would like to get rid of this setup.

I do have a trusted and hardened management domU running sshd that I could
use for this purpose.

Thanks!
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Is it possible to enable and share some tty serial device =
or pipe with a trusted domU VM?<div><br></div><div>/tl;dr<br><div><br></div=
><div>I have air-gapped my dom0 (PCI passthrough all NICs to untrusted domU=
s for networking, no netback/netfront for dom0).=C2=A0 Aka, the Qubes OS mo=
del.</div><div><br></div><div>I currently have a RPi connected to the seria=
l header on the system for console of dom0.=C2=A0 It&#39;s on a non-routabl=
e dedicated network itself; however, I would like to get rid of this setup.=
</div><div><br></div><div>I do have a trusted and hardened management domU =
running sshd that I could use for this purpose.</div></div><div><br></div><=
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 2:03 PM Aaron Gray wrote:

> I have two ASUS PRIME Z270-A machines based on Intel Z270 chipset and am
> wondering about when support will be available for them and what I can do
> to speed this up.
>
> But I have not done anything to do with kernel work since years ago when I
> read a lot of the main parts of the Linux 2.4 Kernel. Also I did code to
> get into and out of protected mode before this.
>
> Heres the datasheets that cover the chipset :-
>
>
> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-1.html
>
> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-2.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Aaron
>

It's your Linux kernel that needs to support your hardware, not Xen itself.

I personally run Xen with an Arch Linux dom0 specifically for this purpose
of getting the latest hardware support across my devices.  For example, I
am on kernel 4.18.10 at this moment.  The AUR also keeps a fairly recent
version of Xen, currently 4.11.

-E

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Oc=
t 18, 2018 at 2:03 PM Aaron Gray wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I have two ASU=
S PRIME Z270-A machines based on Intel Z270 chipset and am wondering about =
when support will be available for them and what I can do to speed this up.=
</div><div><br></div><div>But I have not done anything to do with kernel wo=
rk since years ago when I read a lot of the main parts of the Linux 2.4 Ker=
nel. Also I did code to get into and out of protected mode before this.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Heres the datasheets that cover the chipset :-</div><=
div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chips=
ets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-1.html" target=3D"_blank">https://=
www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-v=
ol-1.html</a></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/=
chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-2.html" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datash=
eet-vol-2.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Aaron</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It&#39;s y=
our Linux kernel that needs to support your hardware, not Xen itself.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>I personally run Xen with an Arch Linux dom0 specifical=
ly for this purpose of getting the latest hardware support across my device=
s.=C2=A0 For example, I am on kernel 4.18.10 at this moment.=C2=A0 The AUR =
also keeps a fairly recent version of Xen, currently 4.11.</div><div><br></=
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Le 24/10/2018 =C3=A0 05:09, Kleve, Jesse R a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
> I=E2=80=99m trying to find a way to load a rootfs into memory and have =
dom0 use this as the root filesystem instead of extracting the rootfs on =
to an SD card partition and mounting that. Is this possible? I have been =
unable to find any documentation on this. Is there a property in the dom0=
 chosen section of the device tree to specify the location of the rootfs?=

>
> Thanks,
> Jesse

Hi Jesse,

It is possible, we do it actually here.

What is your target dom0 OS ? ( On Debian / Ubuntu, you might either use
homemade solutions, or to make things easier,
http://cmrg.fifthhorseman.net/wiki/debirf )

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                    Xen Security Advisory XSA-278

               x86: Nested VT-x usable even when disabled

ISSUE DESCRIPTION
=================

When running HVM guests, virtual extensions are enabled in hardware because
Xen is using them.  As a result, a guest can blindly execute the
virtualisation instructions, and will exit to Xen for processing.

In the case that the guest hasn't followed the correct (virtual) configuration
procedure, it shouldn't be able to use the instructions, and Xen should
respond with #UD exception.  When nested virtualisation is disabled for the
guest, it is not permitted to complete the configuration procedure.

Unfortunately, when nested virtualisation is intended to be disabled for the
guest, an incorrect default value leads Xen to believe that the configuration
procedure has already been completed.

IMPACT
======

Guest software which blindly plays with the VT-x instructions can cause Xen to
operate on uninitialised data.  As the backing memory is zeroed, this causes
Xen to suffer a NULL pointer dereference, causing a host Denial of Service.

Other behaviours such as memory corruption or privilege escalation have not
been ruled out.

VULNERABLE SYSTEMS
==================

Systems running Xen 4.9 or later are vulnerable.  Systems running Xen 4.8 or
earlier are not vulnerable.

Only Intel x86 systems are vulnerable.  Systems from other x86 vendors, and
other hardware vendors are not vulnerable.

Only x86 HVM and PVH guests can leverage this vulnerability.  x86 PV guests
cannot leverage this vulnerability.

MITIGATION
==========

Running only x86 PV guests will avoid the issue.

For x86 HVM guests, while enabling nested virtualisation for affected guests
does work around this particular DoS, it is not a security supported
configuration and has other know DoS and suspected privilege escalation
vulnerabilities.  Therefore, it is not a mitigation.

CREDITS
=======

This issue was discovered by Sergey Dyasli of Citrix.

RESOLUTION
==========

Applying the appropriate attached patch resolves this issue.

xsa278.patch           xen-unstable
xsa278-4.11.patch      Xen 4.11, 4.10, 4.9

$ sha256sum xsa278*
d94c59ee170f96af14f0cf696221ba8b9447b86820fe99fba1815ab93cc89cd7  xsa278.patch
22686a9bbfbd38bb74292a28a452012d263875c9064815d4afd3fd6c62df0c3a  xsa278-4.11.patch
$

NOTE CONCERNING LACK OF EMBARGO
===============================

This issue was first reported in private and was in the usual XSA process.

It was later independently reported in public with enough detail for the issue
to be considered fully public.
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 14:25, Eric Duncan <eduncan911@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 2:03 PM Aaron Gray wrote:
>
>> I have two ASUS PRIME Z270-A machines based on Intel Z270 chipset and am
>> wondering about when support will be available for them and what I can do
>> to speed this up.
>>
>> But I have not done anything to do with kernel work since years ago when
>> I read a lot of the main parts of the Linux 2.4 Kernel. Also I did code to
>> get into and out of protected mode before this.
>>
>> Heres the datasheets that cover the chipset :-
>>
>>
>> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-1.html
>>
>> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-2.html
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>
> It's your Linux kernel that needs to support your hardware, not Xen itself.
>
> I personally run Xen with an Arch Linux dom0 specifically for this purpose
> of getting the latest hardware support across my devices.  For example, I
> am on kernel 4.18.10 at this moment.  The AUR also keeps a fairly recent
> version of Xen, currently 4.11.
>

That sounds an interesting direction I would try Arch if I was not trying
to get Xen Fedora rawhide sussed as I need this step to get my machine
architecture working with Qubes.

F29 Beta has 4.11.0

At present I have one instillation on F29 that worked straight away with :-

    sudo yum groupinstall 'Virtualization'
    sudo yum install xen

And another were I did a yum update first and Xen it does not function with
the missing module.mod and multiboot.mod issue that was found in F27 and
F28.

    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1486002#c36

I just need to do the diff's on /boot and the rpm's tomorrow to see what if
I can find the issue.

Regards,

Aaron






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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 14:25, Eric Duncan &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:eduncan911@gmail.com">eduncan911@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padd=
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r-left-style:solid"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"ltr">On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 2:03 PM Aaron Gray wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:=
1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-st=
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wo ASUS PRIME Z270-A machines based on Intel Z270 chipset and am wondering =
about when support will be available for them and what I can do to speed th=
is up.</div><div><br></div><div>But I have not done anything to do with ker=
nel work since years ago when I read a lot of the main parts of the Linux 2=
.4 Kernel. Also I did code to get into and out of protected mode before thi=
s.</div><div><br></div><div>Heres the datasheets that cover the chipset :-<=
/div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en=
/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-1.html" target=3D"_blank">ht=
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us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-2.html" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-=
datasheet-vol-2.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></=
div><div>Aaron</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It&#=
39;s your Linux kernel that needs to support your hardware, not Xen itself.=
</div><div><br></div><div>I personally run Xen with an Arch Linux dom0 spec=
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devices.=C2=A0 For example, I am on kernel 4.18.10 at this moment.=C2=A0 Th=
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/div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That sounds an interesting dire=
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ation:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-s=
tretch:100%"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica,sans-serif" style=3D"background:=
none;font:400 13.33px/19.99px arial,helvetica,sans-serif;outline:transparen=
t 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:auto;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:vi=
sible;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 sudo <span sty=
le=3D"font:400 13.33px/20.45px arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left;c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;t=
ext-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:pre-wrap;fo=
nt-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%;float:none;background-color:rgb(249,2=
49,249)">yum groupinstall &#39;Virtualization&#39;<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 su=
do yum install xen<b><br></b></span></font></div><div style=3D"background:n=
one;font:400 13.33px/19.99px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;outline:transparent=
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4);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visib=
le;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjus=
t:none;font-stretch:100%"><b style=3D"background:none;font:700 13.33px/19.9=
9px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34=
,34);width:auto;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;font-size-adjust:non=
e;font-stretch:100%"></b><i style=3D"background:none;font:italic 400 13.33p=
x/19.99px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb=
(34,34,34);width:auto;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;font-size-adju=
st:none;font-stretch:100%"></i><u style=3D"background:none;font:400 13.33px=
/19.99px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(=
34,34,34);width:auto;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;font-size-adjus=
t:none;font-stretch:100%"></u><sub style=3D"background:none;font:400 9.2px/=
13.8px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34=
,34,34);width:auto;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;font-size-adjust:=
none;font-stretch:100%"></sub><sup style=3D"background:none;font:400 9.2px/=
13.8px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34=
,34,34);width:auto;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;font-size-adjust:=
none;font-stretch:100%"></sup><strike style=3D"background:none;font:400 13.=
33px/19.99px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px =
rgb(34,34,34);width:auto;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;font-size-a=
djust:none;font-stretch:100%"></strike><font face=3D"arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif" style=3D"background:none;font:400 13.33px/19.99px arial,helvetica,san=
s-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:auto;letter-=
spacing:normal;overflow:visible;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%"></=
font><b style=3D"background:none;font:700 13.33px/19.99px Arial,Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:auto;lette=
r-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%">=
</b><b style=3D"background:none;font:700 13.33px/19.99px Arial,Helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:auto;letter=
-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%"><=
/b><br style=3D"background:none;font:400 13.33px/19.99px Arial,Helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:auto;letter=
-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%"><=
/div><div style=3D"background:none;font:400 13.33px/19.99px Arial,Helvetica=
,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:568px;te=
xt-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;lette=
r-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;whi=
te-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%">And another were I=
 did a yum update first and Xen it does not function with the missing modul=
e.mod and multiboot.mod issue that was found in F27 and F28.</div><div styl=
e=3D"background:none;font:400 13.33px/19.99px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;ou=
tline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:568px;text-align:left;=
color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:norm=
al;overflow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:norma=
l;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%"><br></div><div style=3D"backgrou=
nd:none;font:400 13.33px/19.99px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;outline:transpa=
rent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:568px;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,=
34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:v=
isible;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-a=
djust:none;font-stretch:100%">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a style=3D"margin:0px;padding:=
0px;border:0px rgb(17,85,204);color:rgb(17,85,204);text-decoration:none" hr=
ef=3D"https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D1486002#c36" target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"nofollow">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D1486=
002#c36</a></div><div style=3D"background:none;font:400 13.33px/19.99px Ari=
al,Helvetica,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);wi=
dth:568px;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-inde=
nt:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-spa=
cing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%"><br></=
div><div style=3D"background:none;font:400 13.33px/19.99px Arial,Helvetica,=
sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:568px;tex=
t-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter=
-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;whit=
e-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%">I just need to do t=
he diff&#39;s on /boot and the rpm&#39;s tomorrow to see what if I can find=
 the issue.</div><div style=3D"background:none;font:400 13.33px/19.99px Ari=
al,Helvetica,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);wi=
dth:568px;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-inde=
nt:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-spa=
cing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%"><br></=
div><div style=3D"background:none;font:400 13.33px/19.99px Arial,Helvetica,=
sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:568px;tex=
t-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter=
-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;whit=
e-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%">Regards,</div><div =
style=3D"background:none;font:400 13.33px/19.99px Arial,Helvetica,sans-seri=
f;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:568px;text-align:l=
eft;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:=
normal;overflow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:n=
ormal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%"><br></div><div style=3D"back=
ground:none;font:400 13.33px/19.99px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;outline:tra=
nsparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:568px;text-align:left;color:rgb=
(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overfl=
ow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-si=
ze-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%">Aaron</div><div style=3D"background:none;=
font:400 13.33px/19.99px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px=
;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:568px;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);t=
ext-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;t=
ext-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:no=
ne;font-stretch:100%"><br></div><div style=3D"background:none;font:400 13.3=
3px/19.99px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px r=
gb(34,34,34);width:568px;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform=
:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;text-decoratio=
n:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stret=
ch:100%"><br></div><div style=3D"background:none;font:400 13.33px/19.99px A=
rial,Helvetica,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);=
width:568px;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-in=
dent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-s=
pacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%"><br>=
</div><div style=3D"background:none;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(=
34,34,34);width:568px;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:no=
ne;line-height:19.99px;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visib=
le;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-variant:no=
rmal;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch=
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v><b></b><i></i><u></u><sub></sub><sup></sup><strike></strike><b></b><i></i=
><u></u><sub></sub><sup></sup><strike></strike><br></div></div><b></b><i></=
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ail_signature" dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Aaro=
n Gray</div><div><br></div><div>Independent Open Source Software Engineer, =
Computer Language Researcher, Information Theorist, and amateur computer sc=
ientist.<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>

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Hi,

I am looking for motherboards that will support Qubes which IIRC is based
on Xen 4.8[.3] ?

Looking for either DDR3 or DDR4 and either Intel or AMD based MB's

Many thanks in advance,

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Hi there,

Ever since all the Meltdown and Spectre kernel updates and possibly also
Xen 4.8 updates, we experience crashes of the Dom0 just out of the blue.
Sometimes after 1 day, sometimes after a few days or even 14 days,
completely random.

We have two Dell P730 servers and two Dell P720 servers with this
behaviour. One thing is that we updated these machine to the latest
available firmware, because that is the most secure way. Then we installed
Debian Stretch with Xen 4.8 support

We have done serveral installs and 4 servers seem to crash pretty fast and
other don't. In the end we think that we can lead it back to the
xen-4.8.4-pre version being stable and the xen-4.8.5-pre being unstable.
This was kinda independent of the kernel that we were using 4.14 or
4.9.0-8-amd64. This is off course all Debian package numbering.

As last resort  we updated on one server all DomU kernels of our Jessie
servers on this Dom0 to 4.9.0 from backports instead of the 3.16 kernel.
For now that seems to work, but the crashes are random so it could happen
any time again. The idea is that these kernels are completely spectre&
meltdown unaware and might cause trouble in Xen kernel support. I am not
sure if this is true at all, but we are pretty lost what the actual cause
is.

We also tested with CentOS and we also had these crashes there with certain
combinations of kernel/Xen. The most recent updates seem to be more stable
tough. The most frustrating part is the there is absolutely no logs to be
found. No kernel oops or what.. the server just resets and boots again.

Are there others experiencing problems like this? Do you see more frequent
server/kernel crashes on production servers?

Best regards,
 Roalt Zijlstra

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi there,</div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans=
-serif;font-size:small">Ever since all the Meltdown and Spectre kernel upda=
tes and possibly also Xen 4.8 updates, we experience crashes of the Dom0 ju=
st out of the blue. Sometimes after 1 day, sometimes after a few days or ev=
en 14 days, completely random.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">We have two Dell P730 servers and two Dell P720 servers with this =
behaviour. One thing is that we updated these machine to the latest availab=
le firmware, because that is the most secure way. Then we installed Debian =
Stretch with Xen 4.8 support</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">We have done serveral installs and 4 servers seem to crash pretty =
fast and other don&#39;t. In the end we think that we can lead it back to t=
he xen-4.8.4-pre version being stable and the xen-4.8.5-pre being unstable.=
 This was kinda independent of the kernel that we were using 4.14 or 4.9.0-=
8-amd64. This is off course all Debian package numbering.</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,=
helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">As last resort=C2=A0 we updated on on=
e server all DomU kernels of our Jessie servers on this Dom0 to 4.9.0 from =
backports instead of the 3.16 kernel. For now that seems to work, but the c=
rashes are random so it could happen any time again. The idea is that these=
 kernels are completely spectre&amp; meltdown unaware and might cause troub=
le in Xen kernel support. I am not sure if this is true at all, but we are =
pretty lost what the actual cause is.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:small">We also tested with CentOS and we also had these crashes th=
ere with certain combinations of kernel/Xen. The most recent updates seem t=
o be more stable tough. The most frustrating part is the there is absolutel=
y no logs to be found. No kernel oops or what.. the server just resets and =
boots again.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,h=
elvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Are there=
 others experiencing problems like this? Do you see more frequent server/ke=
rnel crashes on production servers?=C2=A0=C2=A0<br></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"=
><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"m_1274878354686728973gmail_signat=
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div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:=
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size:12.8px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:a=
rial,sans-serif"><table width=3D"100%" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" =
style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;font-size=
:medium"><tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" align=3D"left" style=3D"color:rgb(88=
,89,91);font-size:13px;line-height:16px"><table width=3D"100%" cellpadding=
=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:medium"><tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" align=3D"le=
ft" style=3D"color:rgb(88,89,91);font-size:13px;line-height:16px"><font fac=
e=3D"verdana, sans-serif">Best regards,</font></td></tr><tr><td valign=3D"t=
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:03:22 +0530
Vikram K <vikram.k@pathpartnertech.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> We are using Hikey960 with Debian as Dom0 and DomU. This board has only
> WiFi interface. We want to create bridge between Dom0 and DomU so that Do=
mU
> has internet access. We tried to create bridge using brtcl command, but it
> is not working. Please provide pointers.

AFAIK, it's not working
https://marc.info/?l=3Dlinux-wireless&m=3D136743495526905&w=3D2
"There is a proposed fix that is included in OpenWrt"
https://marc.info/?l=3Dlinux-wireless&m=3D145591129008322&w=3D2
More details are avilable in OpenWrt WiKi
https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/relayclient

HTH,

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Hi,

  As per below link, it is possible to share Internet via WiFi between Dom0
and DomU,.
  https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_in_WiFi_networks

  Tried the suggested solution using ebtables, but it did not work.



* ebtables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 00:60:00:00:00:01 \
              -j snat --to-source 00:60:aa:bb:cc:dd*

 In the configurations file we have added below configuration in DomU
config file.
* vif = ['mac=00:16:3e:64:b8:40']*


Apart from that do we need to add any addition configuration?


On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 12:39 PM Vladimir Botka <vbotka@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:03:22 +0530
> Vikram K <vikram.k@pathpartnertech.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > We are using Hikey960 with Debian as Dom0 and DomU. This board has only
> > WiFi interface. We want to create bridge between Dom0 and DomU so that
> DomU
> > has internet access. We tried to create bridge using brtcl command, but
> it
> > is not working. Please provide pointers.
>
> AFAIK, it's not working
> https://marc.info/?l=linux-wireless&m=136743495526905&w=2
> "There is a proposed fix that is included in OpenWrt"
> https://marc.info/?l=linux-wireless&m=145591129008322&w=2
> More details are avilable in OpenWrt WiKi
> https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/relayclient
>
> HTH,
>
> -vlado
>


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,</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 As per below link, it is possible to shar=
e Internet via WiFi between Dom0 and DomU,.</div><div>=C2=A0 <a href=3D"htt=
ps://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_in_WiFi_networks">https://wiki.xenproject=
.org/wiki/Xen_in_WiFi_networks</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 Trie=
d the suggested solution using ebtables, but it did not work. <br></div><di=
v><pre><b> <span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">ebtables =
-t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 00:60:00:00:00:01 \
              -j snat --to-source 00:60:aa:bb:cc:dd</span><br><br></b></pre=
><pre><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> In the config=
urations file we have added below configuration in DomU config file.<br><b>=
 vif =3D [&#39;mac=3D00:16:3e:64:b8:40&#39;]</b></span><b><br></b></pre>=C2=
=A0 <br></div><div>Apart from that do we need to add any addition configura=
tion?<br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 12:39 PM Vladimir Botka =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vbotka@gmail.com">vbotka@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:03:22 +0530<br>
Vikram K &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vikram.k@pathpartnertech.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">vikram.k@pathpartnertech.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Hello,<br>
&gt; We are using Hikey960 with Debian as Dom0 and DomU. This board has onl=
y<br>
&gt; WiFi interface. We want to create bridge between Dom0 and DomU so that=
 DomU<br>
&gt; has internet access. We tried to create bridge using brtcl command, bu=
t it<br>
&gt; is not working. Please provide pointers.<br>
<br>
AFAIK, it&#39;s not working<br>
<a href=3D"https://marc.info/?l=3Dlinux-wireless&amp;m=3D136743495526905&am=
p;w=3D2" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://marc.info/?l=3Dlinux-=
wireless&amp;m=3D136743495526905&amp;w=3D2</a><br>
&quot;There is a proposed fix that is included in OpenWrt&quot;<br>
<a href=3D"https://marc.info/?l=3Dlinux-wireless&amp;m=3D145591129008322&am=
p;w=3D2" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://marc.info/?l=3Dlinux-=
wireless&amp;m=3D145591129008322&amp;w=3D2</a><br>
More details are avilable in OpenWrt WiKi<br>
<a href=3D"https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/relayclient" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/relayclient</a>=
<br>
<br>
HTH,<br>
<br>
-vlado<br>
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> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 12:39 PM Vladimir Botka <vbotka@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:03:22 +0530
> > Vikram K <vikram.k@pathpartnertech.com> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > We are using Hikey960 with Debian as Dom0 and DomU. This board has on=
ly
> > > WiFi interface. We want to create bridge between Dom0 and DomU so tha=
t =20
> > > DomU =20
> > > has internet access. We tried to create bridge using brtcl command, b=
ut =20
> > > it =20
> > > is not working. Please provide pointers. =20

> > AFAIK, it's not working
> > https://marc.info/?l=3Dlinux-wireless&m=3D136743495526905&w=3D2
> > "There is a proposed fix that is included in OpenWrt"
> > https://marc.info/?l=3Dlinux-wireless&m=3D145591129008322&w=3D2
> > More details are avilable in OpenWrt WiKi
> > https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/relayclient
> > -vlado

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:01:39 +0530
Vikram K <vikram.k@pathpartnertech.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> As per below link, it is possible to share Internet via WiFi between Dom0
> and DomU,.
> https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_in_WiFi_networks
> Tried the suggested solution using ebtables, but it did not work.
> * ebtables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 00:60:00:00:00:01 \
>               -j snat --to-source 00:60:aa:bb:cc:dd*
> In the configurations file we have added below configuration in DomU
> config file.
> * vif =3D ['mac=3D00:16:3e:64:b8:40']*
> Apart from that do we need to add any addition configuration?

NAT is a different story. Worked for me with Armbian(no XEN) and Atheros 92=
80
couple of years ago. I used Ansible to configure it.
https://github.com/vbotka/ansible-linux-postinstall/blob/master/templates/r=
outer1-iptables.j2

HTH,

- vlado

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Hi Roalt,

We are running Xen 4.6 on 4.9.x kernel and CentOS 6, and are having the 
same issues.
But not that frequent as you state. Only like once every month.

The systems (Dell R630) also crashes/resets without any message. So 
nothing is logged unfortunately :(

The crashes were not observed on Xen 4.4.

We configured the servers to print kernel logs to SOL (Serial Over LAN 
via iDRAC), and we log those.
But since then no crashed servers anymore, so we don't know yet if this 
will give us some more details.


Thanks
Jean-Louis

On 29/10/18 12:57, Roalt Zijlstra | webpower wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Ever since all the Meltdown and Spectre kernel updates and possibly 
> also Xen 4.8 updates, we experience crashes of the Dom0 just out of 
> the blue. Sometimes after 1 day, sometimes after a few days or even 14 
> days, completely random.
>
> We have two Dell P730 servers and two Dell P720 servers with this 
> behaviour. One thing is that we updated these machine to the latest 
> available firmware, because that is the most secure way. Then we 
> installed Debian Stretch with Xen 4.8 support
>
> We have done serveral installs and 4 servers seem to crash pretty fast 
> and other don't. In the end we think that we can lead it back to the 
> xen-4.8.4-pre version being stable and the xen-4.8.5-pre being 
> unstable. This was kinda independent of the kernel that we were using 
> 4.14 or 4.9.0-8-amd64. This is off course all Debian package numbering.
>
> As last resort  we updated on one server all DomU kernels of our 
> Jessie servers on this Dom0 to 4.9.0 from backports instead of the 
> 3.16 kernel. For now that seems to work, but the crashes are random so 
> it could happen any time again. The idea is that these kernels are 
> completely spectre& meltdown unaware and might cause trouble in Xen 
> kernel support. I am not sure if this is true at all, but we are 
> pretty lost what the actual cause is.
>
> We also tested with CentOS and we also had these crashes there with 
> certain combinations of kernel/Xen. The most recent updates seem to be 
> more stable tough. The most frustrating part is the there is 
> absolutely no logs to be found. No kernel oops or what.. the server 
> just resets and boots again.
>
> Are there others experiencing problems like this? Do you see more 
> frequent server/kernel crashes on production servers?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Roalt Zijlstra
>
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    <p>We are running Xen 4.6 on 4.9.x kernel and CentOS 6, and are
      having the same issues.<br>
      But not that frequent as you state. Only like once every month.</p>
    <p>The systems (Dell R630) also crashes/resets without any message.
      So nothing is logged unfortunately :(<br>
      <br>
      The crashes were not observed on Xen 4.4.<br>
      <br>
      We configured the servers to print kernel logs to SOL (Serial Over
      LAN via iDRAC), and we log those.<br>
      But since then no crashed servers anymore, so we don't know yet if
      this will give us some more details.</p>
    <p><br>
      Thanks<br>
      Jean-Louis<br>
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          latest available firmware, because that is the most secure
          way. Then we installed Debian Stretch with Xen 4.8 support</div>
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          back to the xen-4.8.4-pre version being stable and the
          xen-4.8.5-pre being unstable. This was kinda independent of
          the kernel that we were using 4.14 or 4.9.0-8-amd64. This is
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          the 3.16 kernel. For now that seems to work, but the crashes
          are random so it could happen any time again. The idea is that
          these kernels are completely spectre&amp; meltdown unaware and
          might cause trouble in Xen kernel support. I am not sure if
          this is true at all, but we are pretty lost what the actual
          cause is.</div>
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Thanks Vladimir.

Can some one provide pointer/reference on how to use NAT to share WiFi
between Dom0 and DomU.
Followed the instruction provided in the below link, but no success.
https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Bridging_with_a_wireless_NIC




On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:04 PM Vladimir Botka <vbotka@gmail.com> wrote:

> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 12:39 PM Vladimir Botka <vbotka@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:03:22 +0530
> > > Vikram K <vikram.k@pathpartnertech.com> wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > We are using Hikey960 with Debian as Dom0 and DomU. This board has
> only
> > > > WiFi interface. We want to create bridge between Dom0 and DomU so
> that
> > > > DomU
> > > > has internet access. We tried to create bridge using brtcl command,
> but
> > > > it
> > > > is not working. Please provide pointers.
>
> > > AFAIK, it's not working
> > > https://marc.info/?l=linux-wireless&m=136743495526905&w=2
> > > "There is a proposed fix that is included in OpenWrt"
> > > https://marc.info/?l=linux-wireless&m=145591129008322&w=2
> > > More details are avilable in OpenWrt WiKi
> > > https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/relayclient
> > > -vlado
>
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:01:39 +0530
> Vikram K <vikram.k@pathpartnertech.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > As per below link, it is possible to share Internet via WiFi between Dom0
> > and DomU,.
> > https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_in_WiFi_networks
> > Tried the suggested solution using ebtables, but it did not work.
> > * ebtables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 00:60:00:00:00:01 \
> >               -j snat --to-source 00:60:aa:bb:cc:dd*
> > In the configurations file we have added below configuration in DomU
> > config file.
> > * vif = ['mac=00:16:3e:64:b8:40']*
> > Apart from that do we need to add any addition configuration?
>
> NAT is a different story. Worked for me with Armbian(no XEN) and Atheros
> 9280
> couple of years ago. I used Ansible to configure it.
>
> https://github.com/vbotka/ansible-linux-postinstall/blob/master/templates/router1-iptables.j2
>
> HTH,
>
> - vlado
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks Vladimir.</div><div><br></div=
><div>Can some one provide pointer/reference on how to use NAT to share WiF=
i between Dom0 and DomU.</div><div>Followed the instruction provided in the=
 below link, but no success.</div><div><a href=3D"https://wiki.debian.org/B=
ridgeNetworkConnections#Bridging_with_a_wireless_NIC">https://wiki.debian.o=
rg/BridgeNetworkConnections#Bridging_with_a_wireless_NIC</a></div><div><br>=
</div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:04 PM Vladimir =
Botka &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vbotka@gmail.com">vbotka@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">&gt; On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 12:=
39 PM Vladimir Botka &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vbotka@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">vbotka@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:03:22 +0530<br>
&gt; &gt; Vikram K &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vikram.k@pathpartnertech.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">vikram.k@pathpartnertech.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Hello,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; We are using Hikey960 with Debian as Dom0 and DomU. This boa=
rd has only<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; WiFi interface. We want to create bridge between Dom0 and Do=
mU so that=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; DomU=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; has internet access. We tried to create bridge using brtcl c=
ommand, but=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; it=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; is not working. Please provide pointers.=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
&gt; &gt; AFAIK, it&#39;s not working<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"https://marc.info/?l=3Dlinux-wireless&amp;m=3D13674349=
5526905&amp;w=3D2" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://marc.info/?=
l=3Dlinux-wireless&amp;m=3D136743495526905&amp;w=3D2</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &quot;There is a proposed fix that is included in OpenWrt&quot;<b=
r>
&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"https://marc.info/?l=3Dlinux-wireless&amp;m=3D14559112=
9008322&amp;w=3D2" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://marc.info/?=
l=3Dlinux-wireless&amp;m=3D145591129008322&amp;w=3D2</a><br>
&gt; &gt; More details are avilable in OpenWrt WiKi<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/relayclient" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/rela=
yclient</a><br>
&gt; &gt; -vlado<br>
<br>
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:01:39 +0530<br>
Vikram K &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vikram.k@pathpartnertech.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">vikram.k@pathpartnertech.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt; As per below link, it is possible to share Internet via WiFi between D=
om0<br>
&gt; and DomU,.<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_in_WiFi_networks" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_in_W=
iFi_networks</a><br>
&gt; Tried the suggested solution using ebtables, but it did not work.<br>
&gt; * ebtables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 00:60:00:00:00:01 \<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-j snat --to-sou=
rce 00:60:aa:bb:cc:dd*<br>
&gt; In the configurations file we have added below configuration in DomU<b=
r>
&gt; config file.<br>
&gt; * vif =3D [&#39;mac=3D00:16:3e:64:b8:40&#39;]*<br>
&gt; Apart from that do we need to add any addition configuration?<br>
<br>
NAT is a different story. Worked for me with Armbian(no XEN) and Atheros 92=
80<br>
couple of years ago. I used Ansible to configure it.<br>
<a href=3D"https://github.com/vbotka/ansible-linux-postinstall/blob/master/=
templates/router1-iptables.j2" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https:/=
/github.com/vbotka/ansible-linux-postinstall/blob/master/templates/router1-=
iptables.j2</a><br>
<br>
HTH,<br>
<br>
- vlado<br>
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> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > We are using Hikey960 with Debian as Dom0 and DomU. This board has
> > > > > only WiFi interface. We want to create bridge between Dom0 and Do=
mU
> > > > > so that DomU has internet access. We tried to create bridge using=
 brtcl
> > > > > command, but it is not working. Please provide pointers. =20

> > > > AFAIK, it's not working
> > > > https://marc.info/?l=3Dlinux-wireless&m=3D136743495526905&w=3D2
> > > > "There is a proposed fix that is included in OpenWrt"
> > > > https://marc.info/?l=3Dlinux-wireless&m=3D145591129008322&w=3D2
> > > > More details are avilable in OpenWrt WiKi
> > > > https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/relayclient
> > > > -vlado =20

> > > Hi,
> > > As per below link, it is possible to share Internet via WiFi between
> > > Dom0 and DomU,.
> > > https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_in_WiFi_networks
> > > Tried the suggested solution using ebtables, but it did not work.
> > > * ebtables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 00:60:00:00:00:01 \
> > >               -j snat --to-source 00:60:aa:bb:cc:dd*
> > > In the configurations file we have added below configuration in DomU
> > > config file.
> > > * vif =3D ['mac=3D00:16:3e:64:b8:40']*
> > > Apart from that do we need to add any addition configuration? =20

> > NAT is a different story. Worked for me with Armbian(no XEN) and Atheros
> > 9280
> > couple of years ago. I used Ansible to configure it.
> > https://github.com/vbotka/ansible-linux-postinstall/blob/master/templat=
es/router1-iptables.j2

Vikram K <vikram.k@pathpartnertech.com> wrote:
> Thanks Vladimir.
> Can some one provide pointer/reference on how to use NAT to share WiFi
> between Dom0 and DomU.
> Followed the instruction provided in the below link, but no success.
> https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Bridging_with_a_wireless=
_NIC

NAT is feasible. Follow the links and come back with specific questions in
an appropriate list, if needed. Wifi bridge is NO-GO at the moment.

A: Because we read from top to bottom.
Q: Why should I start my reply below the quoted text?
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?  =20
A: The lost context.
Q: What makes top-posted replies harder to read than bottom-posted?
A: Yes.
Q: Should I trim down the quoted part of an email to which I'm replying?

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Hi Jean-Louis,

Thanks for sharing this info.

If I look at my set of servers then we also have CentOS 6 servers which
used to crash after 3 or 4 weeks.
However with the 4.9.112-32.el6.x86_64 kernel and Xen 4.8.4-1.el6 it looks
to be more stable with 65+ days of uptime on six servers running that
particular setup.

I still think that the 4.8.4-pre Xen package for Debian is the stable
version, so if you think of upgrading to 4.8.5-pre  I would not recommend
it yet.

Best regards,

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Op di 30 okt. 2018 om 12:12 schreef Jean-Louis Dupond <jean-louis@dupond.be
>:

> Hi Roalt,
>
> We are running Xen 4.6 on 4.9.x kernel and CentOS 6, and are having the
> same issues.
> But not that frequent as you state. Only like once every month.
>
> The systems (Dell R630) also crashes/resets without any message. So
> nothing is logged unfortunately :(
>
> The crashes were not observed on Xen 4.4.
>
> We configured the servers to print kernel logs to SOL (Serial Over LAN via
> iDRAC), and we log those.
> But since then no crashed servers anymore, so we don't know yet if this
> will give us some more details.
>
>
> Thanks
> Jean-Louis
> On 29/10/18 12:57, Roalt Zijlstra | webpower wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> Ever since all the Meltdown and Spectre kernel updates and possibly also
> Xen 4.8 updates, we experience crashes of the Dom0 just out of the blue.
> Sometimes after 1 day, sometimes after a few days or even 14 days,
> completely random.
>
> We have two Dell P730 servers and two Dell P720 servers with this
> behaviour. One thing is that we updated these machine to the latest
> available firmware, because that is the most secure way. Then we installed
> Debian Stretch with Xen 4.8 support
>
> We have done serveral installs and 4 servers seem to crash pretty fast and
> other don't. In the end we think that we can lead it back to the
> xen-4.8.4-pre version being stable and the xen-4.8.5-pre being unstable.
> This was kinda independent of the kernel that we were using 4.14 or
> 4.9.0-8-amd64. This is off course all Debian package numbering.
>
> As last resort  we updated on one server all DomU kernels of our Jessie
> servers on this Dom0 to 4.9.0 from backports instead of the 3.16 kernel.
> For now that seems to work, but the crashes are random so it could happen
> any time again. The idea is that these kernels are completely spectre&
> meltdown unaware and might cause trouble in Xen kernel support. I am not
> sure if this is true at all, but we are pretty lost what the actual cause
> is.
>
> We also tested with CentOS and we also had these crashes there with
> certain combinations of kernel/Xen. The most recent updates seem to be more
> stable tough. The most frustrating part is the there is absolutely no logs
> to be found. No kernel oops or what.. the server just resets and boots
> again.
>
> Are there others experiencing problems like this? Do you see more frequent
> server/kernel crashes on production servers?
>
> Best regards,
>   Roalt Zijlstra
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Jean-Louis,</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;=
font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks for sharing this info.=
=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">If I look at my=
 set of servers then we also have CentOS 6 servers which used to crash afte=
r 3 or 4 weeks.</div>However with the 4.9.112-32.el6.x86_64 kernel and Xen =
4.8.4-1.el6 it looks to be more stable<span class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"> with 65+ days =
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2018 om 12:12 schreef Jean-Louis Dupond &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jean-louis@du=
pond.be">jean-louis@dupond.be</a>&gt;:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
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    <p>Hi Roalt,</p>
    <p>We are running Xen 4.6 on 4.9.x kernel and CentOS 6, and are
      having the same issues.<br>
      But not that frequent as you state. Only like once every month.</p>
    <p>The systems (Dell R630) also crashes/resets without any message.
      So nothing is logged unfortunately :(<br>
      <br>
      The crashes were not observed on Xen 4.4.<br>
      <br>
      We configured the servers to print kernel logs to SOL (Serial Over
      LAN via iDRAC), and we log those.<br>
      But since then no crashed servers anymore, so we don&#39;t know yet i=
f
      this will give us some more details.</p>
    <p><br>
      Thanks<br>
      Jean-Louis<br>
    </p>
    <div class=3D"m_564822250698883823moz-cite-prefix">On 29/10/18 12:57, R=
oalt Zijlstra |
      webpower wrote:<br>
    </div>
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      <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small">Hi
          there,</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small">Ever
          since all the Meltdown and Spectre kernel updates and possibly
          also Xen 4.8 updates, we experience crashes of the Dom0 just
          out of the blue. Sometimes after 1 day, sometimes after a few
          days or even 14 days, completely random.</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small">We
          have two Dell P730 servers and two Dell P720 servers with this
          behaviour. One thing is that we updated these machine to the
          latest available firmware, because that is the most secure
          way. Then we installed Debian Stretch with Xen 4.8 support</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small">We
          have done serveral installs and 4 servers seem to crash pretty
          fast and other don&#39;t. In the end we think that we can lead it
          back to the xen-4.8.4-pre version being stable and the
          xen-4.8.5-pre being unstable. This was kinda independent of
          the kernel that we were using 4.14 or 4.9.0-8-amd64. This is
          off course all Debian package numbering.</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small">As
          last resort=C2=A0 we updated on one server all DomU kernels of ou=
r
          Jessie servers on this Dom0 to 4.9.0 from backports instead of
          the 3.16 kernel. For now that seems to work, but the crashes
          are random so it could happen any time again. The idea is that
          these kernels are completely spectre&amp; meltdown unaware and
          might cause trouble in Xen kernel support. I am not sure if
          this is true at all, but we are pretty lost what the actual
          cause is.</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small">We
          also tested with CentOS and we also had these crashes there
          with certain combinations of kernel/Xen. The most recent
          updates seem to be more stable tough. The most frustrating
          part is the there is absolutely no logs to be found. No kernel
          oops or what.. the server just resets and boots again.</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small">Are
          there others experiencing problems like this? Do you see more
          frequent server/kernel crashes on production servers?=C2=A0=C2=A0=
<br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
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