# Re: [MirageOS-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Significant changes to decision making; some new roles and minor changes

```On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Jan Beulich wrote:
> > +    Let me express this as an algorithm.
> > +
> > +      treshhold=2/3;
> > +      active='number of active members'; (7 for the Hypervisor project;
> > IanC is inactive)
> > +      favour='number of +1 and +2 votes'
> > +      against='number of -1 and -2 votes'
> > +      strong-against='number -2 votes'; just added this as a sanity check
> > +
> > +    One open question is what to do with 0-votes. We could introduce a
> > rule discounting
> > +    0 votes (let's call it 0-rule). If someone votes 0, we assume they
> > really don't care
> > +    about the outcome and are considered inactive for the purpose of the
> > vote.
> > +
> > +    In that case:
> > +
> > +      active -= 0-votes;
> > +
> > +    Without the 0-rule:
> > +    - to pass: favour/active >= treshhold
> > +      to pass: with active==7, favour >= 5
> > +      in other words, 3 (0,-1,-2)-votes block the proposal as we cant
> > achieve favour>=5
> > +
> > +    With the 0-rule, let's consider 1, 2 or 3 0-votes
> > +    1=>6: to pass: favour >=4
> > +          in other words, 3 (-1,-2)-votes block the proposal
> > +    2=>5: to pass: favour >=4
> > +          in other words, 2 (-1,-2)-vote blocks the proposal
> > +    3=>4: to pass: favour >=3
> > +          in other words, 2 (-1,-2)-vote blocks the proposal
> > +
> > +    Looking at the arithmetic, it does probably make sense to go for the
> > 0-rule. If we
> > +    do, there ought to be more votes in favour of a proposal, than 0-votes.
> > +
> > +    On the other hand, not having the 0-rule forces everyone to form an
> > opinion,
> > +    otherise we will find it hard to make decisions. But in some cases,
> > forming an
> > +    opinion costs significant mental capacity.
> > +
> > +    It would also allow us to remove the complexity of differentiating
> > between
> > +    active and non-active leadership team members by assuming that no
> > vote, equals
> > +    a "0" vote.
> > +
> > +    Opinions?
>
> I'm in favor of the "with 0-rule" variant.

I am also in favor of the 0-rule

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