Re: [Publicity] A thought piece: Docker and Unikernels

[Russell Pavlicek <russell.pavlicek@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Leandro,

Is that the sound of you volunteering I hear?

;)

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From: Leandro David Cacciagioni [leandro.21.2008@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:06 AM
To: Lars Kurth; Tzach Livyatan; Russell Pavlicek
Cc: Libby Clark; George Dunlap; publicity@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Publicity] A thought piece: Docker and Unikernels

I think that maybe one killer move could be the creation of a GOLANG
Unikernel!!!

Cacciagioni, Leandro David
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El 20/08/14 a las 09:33, Lars Kurth escibió:
> I thought about it and it would be ok on our blog. But we are sort of 
> preaching to the converted there, so another channel may be better
> Lars
> ________________________________________
> From: Tzach Livyatan [tzach@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 20 August 2014 10:06
> To: Russell Pavlicek
> Cc: Anil Madhavapeddy; Libby Clark; Lars Kurth; George Dunlap; 
> publicity@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Publicity] A thought piece: Docker and Unikernels
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Russell Pavlicek 
> <russell.pavlicek@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:russell.pavlicek@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Revised version.  I've added Libby (whom I saw in the lobby earlier) and the 
> Publicity list.  New title.
>
> Lars has indicated he wants this divorced from the Xen Project blog, since it 
> has the potential to irritate some people.  I'm fine with that; I irritated 
> people on my own for years.  ;)
>
> I have a feeling someone in the 11:15 AM slot tomorrow will make this piece 
> necessary.
>
> Comments?
> Good post.
> Just wanted to point a related 3 parts post from the OSv blog
> http://osv.io/blog/blog/2014/06/19/containers-hypervisors-part-1/
>
>
> Russ Pavlicek
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> From: Anil Madhavapeddy [anil@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:anil@xxxxxxxxxx>]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 9:55 AM
> To: Russell Pavlicek
> Cc: Lars Kurth; George Dunlap; 
> sconway@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:sconway@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: A thought piece: Docker and Unikernels
>
> I need a cup of tea now...
>
> On 19 Aug 2014, at 08:52, Russell Pavlicek 
> <russell.pavlicek@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:russell.pavlicek@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> Splendid thank you!
>
> And as to the aggressive tone: welcome to America! ;)
>
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> To: Russell Pavlicek 
> [russell.pavlicek@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:russell.pavlicek@xxxxxxxxxx>]
> CC: Lars Kurth [lars.kurth@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lars.kurth@xxxxxxxxxx>]; George 
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> Subject: Re: A thought piece: Docker and Unikernels
>
> It's an aggressively toned article, but not offensively so.  I like it...
>
> A couple of minor tweaks:
>
>> There is no multi-user operating system, no shell scripts, and no massive 
>> library of utilities to take up room – or to employ in some nefarious 
>> exploit. There is just enough code to make the application run, and precious 
>> little for a malefactor to leverage. It's not the “end-all be-all” of 
>> security, but it is certainly facing the right direction.
> could have a note on type safety added:
>
> There is no multi-user operating system, no shell scripts, and no massive 
> library of utilities to take up room – or to employ in some nefarious 
> exploit. There is just enough code to make the application run, and precious 
> little for a malefactor to leverage.  All the code that is present is 
> statically type-safe, from the application stack all the way down to the 
> device drivers themselves. It's not the “end-all be-all” of security, but it 
> is certainly facing the right direction.
>
>> I fully expect that 5 years from now we will look back at the unikernels of 
>> 2014 and see these as the seedlings of what will be a growing forest of 
>> unikernel-type systems. Frankly, I can't wait to see what will develop in 
>> this space.
> Could note that unikernels and containers may well converge:
>
>> I fully expect that 5 years from now we will look back at the unikernels of 
>> 2014 and see these as the seedlings of what will be a growing forest of 
>> unikernel-type systems. They can be viewed as the natural evolution of Linux 
>> containers - maintaining their packaging and deployment benefits, but adding 
>> much more specialization into the mix to reduce resource wastage and 
>> external attack surface.
> -a
>
> On 19 Aug 2014, at 07:24, Russell Pavlicek 
> <russell.pavlicek@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:russell.pavlicek@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I woke up this morning with this going through my head.  It was pretty much 
>> written in one shot (which I never do), so it may take some polishing, but I 
>> think the thoughts are all there.
>>
>> I see James Bottomley on the Keynote list for Wednesday morning and I 
>> anticipate another round of the "Docker has won" message that James has 
>> become famous for.
>>
>> I'd like your feedback.  Ideally, I'd like to propose this for 
>> Linux.com<http://Linux.com> in order to temper the flawed notion of Docker 
>> as the panacea of virtualuzation, hopefully before the media swell around 
>> his prognostications dies down.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Russ Pavlicek
>> Xen Project Evangelist, Citrix Systems
>> Home Office: +1-301-829-5327<tel:%2B1-301-829-5327>
>> Mobile: +1-240-397-0199<tel:%2B1-240-397-0199>
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>> <Docker has not won the war-the battle is just beginning.odt><Docker has not 
>> won the war-the battle is just beginning.pdf>
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