[Wg-test-framework] Working out options for hosting a Xen Project System Test Environment

[Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Test WG members, (+ Ian Jackson who looks after OSSTest now)

In order to budget for an independently hosted Test Framework for the Xen 
Project for 2014 (on the assumption that this is the right thing to do and that 
we can work out the details in Q1 and Q2), I approached the Linux Foundation to 
see whether the Linux Foundation could host an environment such as OSSTest or 
XenRT. We used the existing OSSTest set-up what we have now as a baseline and 
assumed we would need to grow to about twice the capacity we have now.

Unfortunately, the Linux Foundation does not have the capability to support 
such an environment with the IT services they provide to projects (see Mike 
Woster's mail below). The key challenge they face is to support a heterogeneous 
environment.

I discussed with the Citrix team, to see what other options we have. Citrix 
does not have the capability to host such a service outside its firewall. 
However we do have a number of options, which I wanted to get your input on 
Thursday.  The basic structure of the proposal for costing would be to
a) Use a COLO outside of Citrix to host machines and do the basic set-up and 
wiring and fund through the Xen Project (if one of the AB members could provide 
this for the project that would be another option, which may save the project 
funds)
b) Procure the necessary Hardware using Xen Project funds
c) Investigate how sys-admin and ownership would be handled in principle : the 
challenge we are facing is that this is a part-time job and that we cannot use 
a LF resource. This could imply that said resource may have to be employed 
through an AB vendor (and funded through the project). 

Chris Shepherd from Citrix, will do some investigation on costing (although it 
is likely that I don't have data before the Thursday WG meeting). I propose 
that we discuss what would be acceptable in principle to Working Group and 
Advisory Board members and feed this back into the Advisory Board meeting on 
Dec 17th.

Best Regards
Lars

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Woster [mailto:mwoster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 06 December 2013 19:31
To: Lars Kurth
Cc: Mark Hinkle
Subject: Re: Draft Community Plan for Budget Background - please review ASAP

Hi Lars,

Based on Ian and Konstantin's discussion, the requirements are so unique to Xen 
Project (its own rack with specific heterogeneous hardware for testing, an 
hands on person for it), it will require an amazing amount of time.  At this 
time, I am not able to propose anything as we just are not staffed to take this 
on with our current IT team.  We can be a vessel for you to do what you need to 
do via directed funds, but then all responsibility/management overhead etc 
would come from Citrix and the Xen Project.

This is very different than let's say OpenDaylight where we provide the IT 
service to them and deliver to them what they need for 
build/test/ci/codescanning, etc.

I am sorry I don't have better news for you.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Mike

Mike Woster
COO
Linux Foundation
mobile: +1 847 636 1784
mwoster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Mark, Mike,
>
> I put together a community plan for the Xen Project to frame the 
> budget discussion. Please review
>
> @Mike: I do need some data on the Test Infrastructure
>
> Regards
>
> Lars

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