Re: [Xen-devel] [BUG 1747]Guest could't find bootable device with memory more than 3600M

["Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@xxxxxxxx>]

>>> On 12.06.13 at 12:05, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 12/06/13 08:25, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> On 11.06.13 at 19:26, Stefano Stabellini 
>>>>> <stefano.stabellini@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote:
>>> I went through the code that maps the PCI MMIO regions in hvmloader
>>> (tools/firmware/hvmloader/pci.c:pci_setup) and it looks like it already
>>> maps the PCI region to high memory if the PCI bar is 64-bit and the MMIO
>>> region is larger than 512MB.
>>>
>>> Maybe we could just relax this condition and map the device memory to
>>> high memory no matter the size of the MMIO region if the PCI bar is
>>> 64-bit?
>> I can only recommend not to: For one, guests not using PAE or
>> PSE-36 can't map such space at all (and older OSes may not
>> properly deal with 64-bit BARs at all). And then one would generally
>> expect this allocation to be done top down (to minimize risk of
>> running into RAM), and doing so is going to present further risks of
>> incompatibilities with guest OSes (Linux for example learned only in
>> 2.6.36 that PFNs in ioremap() can exceed 32 bits, but even in
>> 3.10-rc5 ioremap_pte_range(), while using "u64 pfn", passes the
>> PFN to pfn_pte(), the respective parameter of which is
>> "unsigned long").
>>
>> I think this ought to be done in an iterative process - if all MMIO
>> regions together don't fit below 4G, the biggest one should be
>> moved up beyond 4G first, followed by the next to biggest one
>> etc.
> 
> First of all, the proposal to move the PCI BAR up to the 64-bit range is 
> a temporary work-around.  It should only be done if a device doesn't fit 
> in the current MMIO range.
> 
> We have three options here:
> 1. Don't do anything
> 2. Have hvmloader move PCI devices up to the 64-bit MMIO hole if they 
> don't fit
> 3. Convince qemu to allow MMIO regions to mask memory (or what it thinks 
> is memory).
> 4. Add a mechanism to tell qemu that memory is being relocated.
> 
> Number 4 is definitely the right answer long-term, but we just don't 
> have time to do that before the 4.3 release.  We're not sure yet if #3 
> is possible; even if it is, it may have unpredictable knock-on effects.
> 
> Doing #2, it is true that many guests will be unable to access the 
> device because of 32-bit limitations.  However, in #1, *no* guests will 
> be able to access the device.  At least in #2, *many* guests will be 
> able to do so.  In any case, apparently #2 is what KVM does, so having 
> the limitation on guests is not without precedent.  It's also likely to 
> be a somewhat tested configuration (unlike #3, for example).

That's all fine with me. My objection was to Stefano's consideration
to assign high addresses to _all_ 64-bit capable BARs up, not just
the biggest one(s).

Jan


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