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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCHv10 0/9] Xen: extend kexec hypercall for use with pv-ops kernels

On 08/11/13 15:15, Daniel Kiper wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 02:01:28PM +0000, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 08/11/13 13:19, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 08.11.13 at 14:13, David Vrabel <david.vrabel@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Keir,
>>>> Sorry, forgot to CC you on this series.
>>>> Can we have your opinion on whether this kexec series can be merged?
>>>> And if not, what further work and/or testing is required?
>>> Just to clarify - unless I missed something, there was still no
>>> review of this from Daniel or someone else known to be
>>> familiar with the subject. If Keir gave his ack, formally this
>>> could go in, but I wouldn't feel too well with that (the more
>>> that apart from not having reviewed it, Daniel seems to also
>>> continue to have problems with it).
>>> Jan
>> Can I have myself deemed to be familiar with the subject as far as this
>> is concerned?
>> A noticeable quantity of my contributions to Xen have been in the kexec
>> / crash areas, and I am the author of the xen-crashdump-analyser.
>> I do realise that I certainly not impartial as far as this series is
>> concerned, being a co-developer.
>> Davids statement of "the current implementation is so broken[1] and
>> useless[2] that..." is completely accurate.  It is frankly a miracle
>> that the current code ever worked at all (and from XenServers point of
>> view, failed far more often than it worked).
>> For reference, XenServer 6.2 shipped with approximately v7 of this
>> series, and an appropriate kexec-tools and xen-crashdump-analyser.
>> Since we put the code in, we have not had a single failure-to-kexec in
>> automated testing (both specific crash tests, and from unexpected host
>> crashes), whereas we were seeing reliable failures to crash on most of
>> our test infrastructure.
>> In stark contrast to previous versions of XenServer, we have not had a
>> single customer reported host crash where the kexec path has failed.
>> There was one systematic failure where the HPSA driver was unhappy with
>> the state of the hardware, resulting in no root filesystem to write logs
>> to, and a repeated panic and Xen deadlock in the queued invalidation
>> codepath.
> Andrew, if it runs on all your hardware it does not mean that it runs
> everywhere. I have discovered the problem (I hope the last one) and it
> should be taken into consideration. Another question is what is the
> source of this problem. Maybe QEMU but it should be checked and not
> ignored.
> Daniel

I am not trying to suggest that it is 100% perfect with all corner cases

However, I feel that a QEMU failure in the NMI shootdown logic (which
has not been touched by this series, and has been present in Xen since
the 4.3 development cycle) should not be considered against the series. 
Or are you meaning that the QEMU failure is a regression caused by the

For interest, our nightly tests consist of:

* xl debug-keys C
* echo c > /proc/sysrq-trigger
** This is further repeated several times with a 1-vcpu dom0 pinned to
pcpu 0, 1, -1 and a 2 further randomly-chosen pcpus.
* echo c > /proc/sysrq-trigger with the server running VM workloads.

Which are chained back-to-back with our crashdump environment which
takes logs and automatically reboots.  For each individual crash, the
crashdump-analyser logs are checked for correctness.

There is a separate test on supporting hardware which uses an IPMI
controller to inject an IOCK NMI.

The above tests get run on a random server every single night.  During
development when the lab was idle, we repeatedly ran the test against
every unique machine we had available (about 100 types, different
brands, different generations of technology)


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