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Re: [Xen-devel] Developer Dashboards for Xen Project sub-projects (need input)

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 03:19:58AM +0100, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> On lun, 2013-11-25 at 09:35 -0500, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > > We can do similar things for XAPI and Mirage.
> > > 
> > > So what I am looking for is
> > > a) a discussion on the list on what might be useful, and
> > > b) a number of volunteers (ideally one per project) who will work
> > > with me and the vendor getting this off the ground
> > 
> > I like the idea of getting an idea of 'we are getting less and less
> > commits in this area' as a way to figure out what needs attention
> > (or perhaps no need).
> > 
> Agreed.
> > But not every week, not every month either - quaterly is nice enough.
> > Or maybe once a year (say at Xen Summit?). But that should be possible
> > already right? Or is it a major pain to create those nice graphs?
> > 
> Yes, I also agree that we should pick-up a proper periodicity with which
> we look at this, or we risk going mad! :-)
> > What is the overall goal?
> > 
> > From my PoV my feeling is that:
> >  a). I need to hire more folks
> >  b). I have more things we want to do than there are
> >      developers.
> > 
> > And I think the same is true for everybody else. But I don't know
> > if this dashboard will help in this regards?
> > 
> Well, I think it goes way beyond that.
> Lars is collecting numbers and plotting graphs similar to the ones this
> thing is able to produce from some time now, and, honestly, I think they
> provide really useful information. They tell much more than just 'there
> is more effort needed in this area', they, if done well, provide
> insights about the health of a community that, in my opinion, every Open
> Source project should be considering very seriously.
> As an example, have a look at his 'community roundup' from XS in
> Edinburgh:
> http://www.xenproject.org/component/allvideoshare/video/latest/xpds13-welcome.html

Wow. Slide #8 says that Jan Beulich is quite productive (which
I already knew). His manager should see it :-)

> So, if this allows for getting even more info with even less (or equal)
> effort, I think it's 100% worth it.
> > Or is it a way to use that information to figure out overall
> > trends of changes + test coverage -> good/bad patch ratio?
> > 
> That too, I guess. However, I think it's probably something more like
> "using that information to as much as possible avoid the risk of dying",
> as it happened some years ago! :-P :-P
> So, as I said in the other mail, provided what would be needed is made a
> bit more clear, I'm up for helping with this.

> Regards,
> Dario
> -- 
> <<This happens because I choose it to happen!>> (Raistlin Majere)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli
> Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK)

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