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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v6 00/11] libxl: ocaml: improve the bindings



On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 15:57 +0000, George Dunlap wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote:
> > George Dunlap writes ("Re: [PATCH v6 00/11] libxl: ocaml: improve the 
> > bindings"):
> >> Except that that basically calls into question what a "code freeze" is
> >> at all.  At some point we just need to say, "No more, this is what we
> >> have; from now on we work on bug fixes."
> >
> > That's indeed what we have a policy for.
> >
> >> The timeframe in which we did this kind of "cost/benefits" analysis for
> >> new features was meant to have passed already -- the "grace period" has
> >> already been three weeks; the schedule for the code freeze has been
> >> published and hasn't changed in 6 weeks.
> >
> > Right.
> >
> >> While I can certainly understand the feeling of "just having missed"
> >> when it might have been accepted, given the number of people working on
> >> Xen now, I think we are almost always going to be in that situation.  We
> >> can either keep slipping the window until we happen to get lucky enough
> >> not to have any "really nice" features to add in, or we can set a hard
> >> deadline and say, "Sorry, that will have to wait."  Feel free to make a
> >> case for the first, but at the moment the second seems like the only way
> >> to proceed to me.
> >
> > I would like to suggest that it was a mistake to provide a releease
> > ack for something which wasn't ready for immediate commit.
> >
> > Perhaps in future a release ack should be implicitly qualified with
> > "if committed within the next working day" or some such.
> 
> I think the reason I was giving them was to help focus reviewer and
> developer energies in particular.  If a series has a chance of getting
> in, it's important for reviewers and developers to prioritize it.  If
> it's not going to get in, then the review / resubmit cycle can be put
> on the back burner until the next development window opens up.

FWIW I don't think "within the next working day" would be very useful in
practice, since you'd be continually re-considering stuff posted every
other day (which is not uncommon due to timezone differences.

But "before the next $MILESTONE" might be. e.g. "Acked if applied before
$EVENT, planned for $DAY". That would help focus peoples attention,
especially those who may not be reading the regular development updates.

Ian.


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