[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: [Xen-devel] Serious issues with xenpaging
On Dec 31, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Tim Deegan <tim@xxxxxxx> wrote: > At 10:33 -0500 on 31 Dec (1388482410), Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 06:34:55PM +0000, Russell Pavlicek wrote: >>> On Twitter, Florian Heigl sent a out a few messages about issues with >>> xenpaging: >>> >>> --- >>> 19-Dec: Anyone successfully use >>> #xen<https://twitter.com/search?q=%23xen&src=hash> >>> #xenpaging<https://twitter.com/search?q=%23xenpaging&src=hash>? docs are at >>> SLES manual, rest is mostly this: >>> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/xen/devel/255798<http://t.co/P36VdL84Et> >>> dead feature or usable? >>> >>> 22-Dec: @lars_kurth<https://twitter.com/lars_kurth> >>> @RCPavlicek<https://twitter.com/RCPavlicek> Hey guys, I wrote down as much >>> as I could https://piratenpad.de/p/Ik3lOBLniq1L5TEM >>> <https://t.co/e5LQCUD9d0> (since I'm on holiday and not constant online) >>> >>> 22-Dec: Yay, tested #xen<https://twitter.com/search?q=%23xen&src=hash> >>> Xenpaging (memory overcommit) >>> [x] largely untested >>> [x] docs outdated >>> [x] syntax+logic changed >>> [x] broken >>> --- >>> >>> [I've taken the liberty of removing the colorful expletive from the final >>> post] >>> >>> Is Florian's assessment correct, or is there somewhere we can point him for >>> help? I'm on vacation this week, but if someone replies to me, I will try >>> to forward the information appropriately. >> >> The Maintainers file implies otherwise. Let me CC the maintainers. > > Andres really owns this code, so I'll punt to him for an official > answer, but: The part actively maintained is the hypervisor support for paging, and the interface. tools/xenpaging is one way to consume that interface. It seems to have suffered from bitrot. So other than echoing Tim's points below, I'll add - Some interesting ideas thrown around by Florian in his notes. Could lead to a robust discussion in xen-devel … if Florian is still interested. - Perhaps the developers who are interested (myself included) should make a decent effort at improving the in-tree tools. There is the argument that for example KSM gives KVM users a sharing solution that just works, whether you like the results or not. In that vein xenpaging apparently doesn't cut it, nor the absence of a basic sharing tool. One simple paging tool could be lazy restore. There is some interest out there, it would be relatively straightforward to codify. Andres > > - It's been listed as a 'tech preview' on the feature list since it went > in. http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Release_Features says: > "Preview, due to limited tools support. Hypervisor side in good shape." > > - I can't say anything about SuSE's apparent support for it, except > that ISTR Olaf worked at/for/with SuSE at the time. > > - Patches would, of course, be welcome. > > Tim. _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
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