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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH for-xen-4.5] tools/mkrpm: improve version.release handling



On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 02:30:58PM +0100, Olaf Hering wrote:
> So how should we proceed here?!

George, any input on this since Ian just nominated you to
be the maintainer-pro-temp?

Thanks.
> 
> Olaf
> 
> On Tue, Nov 04, Ian Campbell wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 11:00 +0000, George Dunlap wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Olaf Hering <olaf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Nov 04, George Dunlap wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> A number based on the time you happened to create the RPM, not based
> > > >> on something intrinsic about the content of the RPM; that just seems
> > > >> kind of hacky to me.  It happens to work well for your common
> > > >> workflow, but you can certainly imagine other workflows or other
> > > >> situations where you'd have to more manually override things anyway
> > > >> (for instance, doing bisections, or comparing functionality in
> > > >> different releases).  It seems like rather than having to remember
> > > >> when you can skip the manual override bits, and when you can't, it
> > > >> would be better to just use them all the time.
> > > >
> > > > George, the release number is and was never meant to describe the
> > > > content of a package. It just means "its different". And it will even
> > > > work for bisect because the package is always "newer", even if the
> > > > content is different.
> > > 
> > > Not if you end up going to a previously built package for some reason.
> > > 
> > > I can see how this makes more sense if you do have an independent
> > > package installed for every branch; but most people are not going to
> > > do that.
> > > 
> > > Anyway, if I were a maintainer, I might decide to accept it, even
> > > though I didn't like it, on the grounds that it doesn't do much harm
> > > and somebody finds it useful.
> > > 
> > > Since I'm not a maintainer, I'm free to be opinionated. :-)
> > 
> > I don't think any of the formal maintainers of this code use RPM[0], and
> > you are the original author of the tool... So I'm afraid I think you
> > might have a more relevant opinion than you might like.
> > 
> > Ian.
> > 
> > [0] At least half happen to be Debian Maintainers...
> > 
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