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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCHv1] xen/balloon: disable memory hotplug in PV guests



On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 01:59:58PM +0000, David Vrabel wrote:
> On 18/03/15 13:57, Juergen Gross wrote:
> > On 03/18/2015 11:36 AM, David Vrabel wrote:
> >> On 16/03/15 10:31, Juergen Gross wrote:
> >>> On 03/16/2015 11:03 AM, Daniel Kiper wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 06:35:04AM +0100, Juergen Gross wrote:
> >>>>> On 03/11/2015 04:40 PM, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> >>>>>> On 03/11/2015 10:42 AM, David Vrabel wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 10/03/15 13:35, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 03/10/2015 07:40 AM, David Vrabel wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 09/03/15 14:10, David Vrabel wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Memory hotplug doesn't work with PV guests because:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>      a) The p2m cannot be expanded to cover the new sections.
> >>>>>>>>> Broken by 054954eb051f35e74b75a566a96fe756015352c8 (xen: switch to
> >>>>>>>>> linear virtual mapped sparse p2m list).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This one would be non-trivial to fix.  We'd need a sparse set of
> >>>>>>>>> vm_area's for the p2m or similar.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>      b) add_memory() builds page tables for the new sections
> >>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>> means
> >>>>>>>>>>         the new pages must have valid p2m entries (or a BUG
> >>>>>>>>>> occurs).
> >>>>>>>>> After some more testing this appears to be broken by:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 25b884a83d487fd62c3de7ac1ab5549979188482 (x86/xen: set regions
> >>>>>>>>> above
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> end of RAM as 1:1) included 3.16.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This one can be trivially fixed by setting the new sections in
> >>>>>>>>> the p2m
> >>>>>>>>> to INVALID_P2M_ENTRY before calling add_memory().
> >>>>>>>> Have you tried 3.17? As I said yesterday, it worked for me (with
> >>>>>>>> 4.4
> >>>>>>>> Xen).
> >>>>>>> No.  But there are three bugs that prevent it from working in
> >>>>>>> 3.16+ so
> >>>>>>> I'm really not sure how you had a working in a 3.17 PV guest.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This is what I have:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [build@build-mk2 linux-boris]$ ssh root@tst008 cat
> >>>>>> /mnt/lab/bootstrap-x86_64/test_small.xm
> >>>>>> extra="console=hvc0 debug earlyprintk=xen "
> >>>>>> kernel="/mnt/lab/bootstrap-x86_64/vmlinuz"
> >>>>>> ramdisk="/mnt/lab/bootstrap-x86_64/initramfs.cpio.gz"
> >>>>>> memory=1024
> >>>>>> maxmem = 4096
> >>>>>> vcpus=1
> >>>>>> maxvcpus=3
> >>>>>> name="bootstrap-x86_64"
> >>>>>> on_crash="preserve"
> >>>>>> vif = [ 'mac=00:0F:4B:00:00:68, bridge=switch' ]
> >>>>>> vnc=1
> >>>>>> vnclisten="0.0.0.0"
> >>>>>> disk=['phy:/dev/guests/bootstrap-x86_64,xvda,w']
> >>>>>> [build@build-mk2 linux-boris]$ ssh root@tst008 xl create
> >>>>>> /mnt/lab/bootstrap-x86_64/test_small.xm
> >>>>>> Parsing config from /mnt/lab/bootstrap-x86_64/test_small.xm
> >>>>>> [build@build-mk2 linux-boris]$ ssh root@tst008 xl list |grep
> >>>>>> bootstrap-x86_64
> >>>>>> bootstrap-x86_64                             2  1024     1
> >>>>>> -b----       5.4
> >>>>>> [build@build-mk2 linux-boris]$ ssh root@g-pvops uname -r
> >>>>>> 3.17.0upstream
> >>>>>> [build@build-mk2 linux-boris]$ ssh root@g-pvops dmesg|grep
> >>>>>> paravirtualized
> >>>>>> [    0.000000] Booting paravirtualized kernel on Xen
> >>>>>> [build@build-mk2 linux-boris]$ ssh root@g-pvops grep MemTotal
> >>>>>> /proc/meminfo
> >>>>>> MemTotal:         968036 kB
> >>>>>> [build@build-mk2 linux-boris]$ ssh root@tst008 xl mem-set
> >>>>>> bootstrap-x86_64 2048
> >>>>>> [build@build-mk2 linux-boris]$ ssh root@tst008 xl list |grep
> >>>>>> bootstrap-x86_64
> >>>>>> bootstrap-x86_64                             2  2048     1
> >>>>>> -b----       5.7
> >>>>>> [build@build-mk2 linux-boris]$ ssh root@g-pvops grep MemTotal
> >>>>>> /proc/meminfo
> >>>>>> MemTotal:        2016612 kB
> >>>>>> [build@build-mk2 linux-boris]$
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regardless, it definitely doesn't work now because of the linear p2m
> >>>>>>> change.  What do you want to do about this?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Since backing out p2m changes is not an option I guess your patch is
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> only short-term alternative.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But this still looks like a regression so perhaps Juergen can take a
> >>>>>> look to see how it can be fixed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hmm, the p2m list is allocated for the maximum memory size of the
> >>>>> domain
> >>>>> which is obtained from the hypervisor. In case of Dom0 it is read via
> >>>>> XENMEM_maximum_reservation, for a domU it is based on the E820 memory
> >>>>> map read via XENMEM_memory_map.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just tested it with a 4.0-rc1 domU kernel with 512MB initial memory
> >>>>> and 4GB of maxmem. The E820 map looked like this:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [    0.000000] Xen: [mem 0x0000000000000000-0x000000000009ffff] usable
> >>>>> [    0.000000] Xen: [mem 0x00000000000a0000-0x00000000000fffff]
> >>>>> reserved
> >>>>> [    0.000000] Xen: [mem 0x0000000000100000-0x00000000ffffffff] usable
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So the complete 4GB were included, like they should. The resulting p2m
> >>>>> list is allocated in the needed size:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [    0.000000] p2m virtual area at ffffc90000000000, size is 800000
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So what is your problem here? Can you post the E820 map and the p2m
> >>>>> map
> >>>>> info for your failing domain, please?
> >>>>
> >>>> If you use memory hotplug then maxmem is not a limit from guest kernel
> >>>> point of view (host still must allow that operation but it is another
> >>>> not related issue). The problem is that p2m must be dynamically
> >>>> expendable
> >>>> to support it. Earlier implementation supported that thing and memory
> >>>> hotplug worked without any issue.
> >>>
> >>> Okay, now I get it.
> >>>
> >>> The problem with the earlier p2m implementation was that it was
> >>> expendable to support only up to 512GB of RAM. So we need some way to
> >>> tell the kernel how much virtual memory it should reserve for the p2m
> >>> list if memory hotplug is enabled. We could:
> >>>
> >>> a) use a configurable maximum (e.g. for 512GB RAM as today)
> >>
> >> I would set the p2m virtual area to cover up to 512 GB (needs 1 GB of
> >> virt space) for a 64-bit guest and up to 64 GB (needs 64 MB of virt
> >> space) for a 32-bit guest.
> >
> > Are 64 GB for 32 bit guests a sensible default? This will need more than
> > 10% of the available virtual kernel space (taking fixmap etc. into
> > account). And a 64 GB sized 32 bit domain is hardly usable (you have to
> > play dirty tricks to get it even running).
> >
> > I'd rather use a default of 4 GB which can be changed via a Kconfig
> > option. For 64 bits the default of 512 GB is okay, but should be
> > configurable as well.
>
> Ok.

I have checked new p2m code and I think that this is reasonable solution too.

David

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