Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v9 0/8] pci: add pci_iomap_wc() and pci_ioremap_wc_bar()

[Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Ingo,

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:38:45AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > > > > Let me know if these are OK or if there are any questions.
> > > > > 
> > > > > [0] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20150625204703.GC4898@xxxxxxx
> > > > > [1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20150707095012.GQ7021@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > 
> > > > Ingo,
> > > > 
> > > > Just a friendly reminder. Let me know if there are any issues or 
> > > > questions.
> > > 
> > > It would be nice to get an Acked-by from Bjorn for the PCI API bits.
> > 
> > I think the actual code of pci_ioremap_wc() and pci_ioremap_wc_bar() is 
> > fine 
> > (although I might have named it pci_ioremap_bar_wc() for consistency).
> > 
> > I declined to merge or ack them myself because they're obvious extensions 
> > of 
> > pci_ioremap() and pci_ioremap_bar(), and I would prefer that they be 
> > exported 
> > the same way, i.e., with EXPORT_SYMBOL(), not EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL().
> 
> Huh? AFAICS pci_ioremap_bar() has been a _GPL export for a long time:
> ...
> (ioremap_wc() is EXPORT_SYMBOL() mostly by accident, it's the odd one out.)

You're right, I was mistaken about pci_ioremap_bar().  But I'm not
convinced yet that ioremap_wc() is the odd one out.  All the interfaces I
found, with the exception of ioremap_uc() on x86 and pci_ioremap_bar(), are
EXPORT_SYMBOL(), even the _wc and _wt flavors.

> Also, FWIIW: I personally got essentially zero feedback and help from 
> proprietary 
> binary kernel module vendors in the past couple of years as x86 maintainer, 
> despite a fair chunk of kernel crashes reported on distro kernels occuring in 
> them...
> 
> Based on that very negative experience, when we introduce something as 
> complex and 
> as critical as new caching APIs, the last thing I want is to have obscure 
> bugs in 
> binary modules I cannot fix in any reasonable fashion. So even if the parent 
> APIs 
> of new APIs weren't already _GPL exports (as in this case), I'd export them 
> as 
> _GPL in this case.
> 
> > I think using EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL to express individual political aims rather 
> > than 
> > as a hint about what might be derived work makes us look like zealots, and 
> > that's not my style.
> 
> As far as I'm concerned it's a pure technological choice: I don't want to 
> export 
> certain types of hard to fix and critical functionality to drivers that I 
> cannot 
> then fix.

That's a good argument that I hadn't heard before (or possibly it was there
and I missed it).  It would be stronger still if we could change the parent
APIs similarly.  If a proprietary driver can't use pci_ioremap_wc() because
it's exported _GPL, it's trivial to use ioremap_wc() directly.

Bjorn

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