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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters



On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 01:46:43PM +0100, Daniel Kiper wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 05:23:02PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > > C) When you could go:
> > > >
> > > >    DT -> Discover Xen -> Xen-specific stuff -> Xen-specific EFI/ACPI 
> > > > discovery
> > >
> > > I take you mean discovering Xen with the usual Xen hypervisor node on
> > > device tree. I think that C) is a good option actually. I like it. Not
> > > sure why we didn't think about this earlier. Is there anything EFI or
> > > ACPI which is needed before Xen support is discovered by
> > > arch/arm64/kernel/setup.c:setup_arch -> xen_early_init()?
> >
> > Currently lots (including the memory map). With the stuff to support
> > SPCR, the ACPI discovery would be moved before xen_early_init().
> >
> > > If not, we could just go for this. A lot of complexity would go away.
> >
> > I suspect this would still be fairly complex, but would at least prevent
> > the Xen-specific EFI handling from adversely affecting the native case.
> >
> > > > D) If you want to be generic:
> > > >    EFI -> EFI application -> EFI tables -> ACPI tables -> Xen-specific 
> > > > stuff
> > > >           \------------------------------------------/
> > > >            (virtualize these, provide shims to Dom0, but handle
> > > >             everything in Xen itself)
> > >
> > > I think that this is good in theory but could turn out to be a lot of
> > > work in practice. We could probably virtualize the RuntimeServices but
> > > the BootServices are troublesome.
> >
> > What's troublesome with the boot services?
> >
> > What can't be simulated?
> 
> How do you want to access bare metal EFI boot services from dom0 if they
> were shutdown long time ago before loading dom0 image?

I don't want to.

I asked "What can't be simulated?" because I assumed everything
necessary/mandatory could be simulated without needinng access to any
real EFI boot services.

As far as I can see all that's necessary is to provide a compatible
interface.

> What do you need from EFI boot services in dom0?

The ability to call ExitBootServices() and SetVirtualAddressMap() on a
_virtual_ address map for _virtual_ services provided by the hypervisor.
A console so that I can log things early on.

Mark.

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