[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: [Xen-devel] RFC: change to 6 months release cycle
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 6:43 PM, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi all > > As I understand it in the past there were discussions on release every > 6 months. I would like to revisit this topic. > > # Rationale for a shorter release cycle > > The current 9 months cadence is too long. That create at least two > problems for us. > > The first problem is that Xen delivers features much slower than other > projects. Linux kernel releases every 3 months. QEMU releases every 4 > months. They deliver new features at a much higher frequency. > > The second problem is that the opportunity cost for vendors to miss a > release is very high. When combined with the freeze exception scheme, > tension quickly builds up around cut-off point, which creates > frictions and frustrations for both contributors and maintainers. This > is detrimental to the project in the long run. > > Having a shorter release cycle plus some other measures seem to make > sense. > > The main objection from previous discussion seems to be that "shorter > release cycle creates burdens for downstream projects". I couldn't > quite get the idea, but I think we can figure out a way to sort that > out once we know what exactly the burdens are. > > A side note is that if we really go down this route we need to stick > with it for a few releases to let people get used to it. Any change to > the release process is going to cause some issues. > > # Proposed release cycle > > Aim for 6 months release cycle -- 4 months development period, 2 > months hardening period. Make two releases per year. > > Fixed hard cut-off date, no more freeze exception. Arrange RCs > immediately after cut-off. > > Take into account holiday seasons in US, Europe and China, the two > cut-off dates are the Fridays in which that last day of March and > September are in. > > Targeted release date is two months after cut-off date. Still, we pick > a Friday using the same rule. We can also release a bit earlier if > everything goes well. If we somehow fail to release on time, we eat > into next development cycle. The next cut-off date will still be > fixed. +1 > > With the proposed scheme, the dates will be: > > - 4.7 cut-off date: April 1, 2016 > - 4.7 release date: June 1, 2016 > > - 4.8 cut-off date: September 30, 2016 > - 4.8 release date: December 2, 2016 > > - 4.9 cut-off date: March 31, 2017 > - 4.9 release date: June 2, 2017 Won't that mean that 4.7 will essentially have a 9-month release again? But the actual dates all look good -- hard cut-off more than 4 weeks after any major holiday, release 3-4 weeks before any major holiday. So we'll basically just have to wait until 4.8 to *actually* try the 6-month cycle thing. I'm 100% on board with the "hard cut-off", but since we're dealing with human beings, I think we should also include another target for people to aim for. We should tell people to *target* submissions for at least 1 week, maybe 2, before the hard deadline. So that would be: 4.7 submission target: 18 March 2016 4.7 cut-off: 1 April 2016 4.7 expected release: 1 June 2016 4.8 submission target: 16 September 2016 4.8 cut-off: 30 September 2016 4.8 expected release: 2 December, 2016 -George _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
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