Re: [Xen-devel] Unifying x86_64 / Xen init paths and reading hardware_subarch early

[Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 03:47:25PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I will be respinning the generic Linux linker table solution [0] soon
> > based on hpa's feedback again now that I'm back from vacation. As I do
> > that though I wanted to highlight a feature I'm throwing into the
> > linker table solution which I am not sure many have paid close
> > attention to but I think is important to Xen. I'm making use of the
> > zero page hardware_subarch to enable us to detect if we're a specific
> > hypervisor solution *as early as is possible*. This has a few
> > implications, short term it is designed to provides a proactive
> > technical solution to bugs such as the cr4 shadow crash (see
> > 5054daa285beaf706f051fbd395dc36c9f0f907f) and ensure that *new* x86
> > features get a proper Xen implementation proactively *or* at the very
> > least get annotated as unsupported properly, instead of having them
> > crash and later finding out. A valid example here is Kasan, which to
> > this day lacks proper Xen support. In the future, if the generic
> > linker table solution gets merged, it would mean developers would have
> > to *think* about if they support Xen or not at development time. It
> > does this in a not-disruptive way to Xen / x86_64 but most
> > *importantly* it does not extend pvops! This should avoid issues in
> > cases of developer / maintainer bandwidth, should some new features be
> > pushed onto Linux for x86_64 but a respective Xen solution is not
> > addressed, and that was not caught early in patch review, such as with
> > Kasan.
> >
> > [0] 
> > https://lkml.kernel.org/r/1450217797-19295-1-git-send-email-mcgrof@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Two things I'd like to request a bit of help with and review / 
> > consideration:
> >
> > 1) I'd like some advice on a curious problem I've stumbled on. I'd
> > like to access hardware_subarch super early, and in my review with at
> > least two x86 folks this *should* work:
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/head64.c b/arch/x86/kernel/head64.c
> > index c913b7eb5056..9168842821c8 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/head64.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/head64.c
> > @@ -141,6 +141,7 @@ static void __init copy_bootdata(char *real_mode_data)
> >
> >  asmlinkage __visible void __init x86_64_start_kernel(char * real_mode_data)
> >  {
> > + struct boot_params *params = (struct boot_params *)__va(real_mode_data);
> >   int i;
> 
> This is a mess :-p
> 
> If you want to access real_mode_data before load_idt, you'll need to do:
> 
>     for (i = 0; i < sizeof(boot_params); i += 4096)
>         early_make_pgtable((unsigned long)params + i);
> 
> Of course, it's entirely possible that that will blow up if you try to
> do it on Xen.

That real_mode should have already been setup by Xen by the time you
call this code. (I hope).

> 
> I think this would all be easier to understand if you try to separate
> out the ideas of linker tables from the idea of rearranging early
> init.  AFAICT the linker table thing is just an implementation detail.
> 
> If I understand right, you're trying to unify the Xen and native
> startup as much as possible.  Why not add little shims, though?
> Create a new start_kernel_common(int subarch, ...) where subarch
> indicates native vs Xen and have its callers tell it which mode it's
> in?
> 
> --Andy

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