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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 1/7] introduce time managment in xtf



On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 11:47:11AM +0200, Paul Semel wrote:
> On 04/10/2018 10:08 AM, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> > > > > this file is introduce to be able to implement an inter domain
> > > > > communication protocol over xenstore. For synchronization purpose, we 
> > > > > do
> > > > > really want to be able to "control" time
> > > > > 
> > > > > common/time.c: since_boot_time gets the time in nanoseconds from the
> > > > > moment the VM has booted
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Paul Semel <phentex@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > ---
> > > > 
> > > > This seems to be missing a list of changes between v2 and v3. Please
> > > > add such a list when posting new versions.
> > > > 
> > > > > +uint64_t since_boot_time(void)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +    uint64_t tsc;
> > > > > +    uint32_t ver1, ver2;
> > > > > +    uint64_t system_time;
> > > > > +    uint64_t old_tsc;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +    do
> > > > > +    {
> > > > > +        do
> > > > > +        {
> > > > > +            ver1 = 
> > > > > ACCESS_ONCE(shared_info.vcpu_info[0].time.version);
> > > > > +            smp_rmb();
> > > > > +        } while ( (ver1 & 1) == 1 );
> > > > > +
> > > > > +        system_time = 
> > > > > ACCESS_ONCE(shared_info.vcpu_info[0].time.system_time);
> > > > > +        old_tsc = 
> > > > > ACCESS_ONCE(shared_info.vcpu_info[0].time.tsc_timestamp);
> > > > > +        smp_rmb();
> > > > > +        ver2 = ACCESS_ONCE(shared_info.vcpu_info[0].time.version);
> > > > > +        smp_rmb();
> > > > > +    } while ( ver1 != ver2 );
> > > > 
> > > > This is still overly complicated IMO, and you have not replied to my
> > > > question of whether doing the scale_delta below is OK.
> > > 
> > > About this scale_delta, we discussed with Andrew, and we are going to use
> > > another version of the function as far as I remember. That's why I am not
> > > taking care of it for the moment.
> > 
> > You should send that version then :).
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > AFAICT uou _cannot_ access any of the vcpu_time_info fields without
> > > > checking for the version (in order to avoid reading inconsistent data
> > > > during an update), yet below you read tsc_to_system_mul and
> > > > tsc_shift.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm sorry, I am probably not getting your point here, because I am already
> > > checking for the version. I was actually checking for the wc_version too 
> > > in
> > > the first version of those patches, but after chatting with Andrew, It
> > > appeared that it was not necessary..
> > 
> > AFAICT the following should work:
> > 
> > do
> > {
> >      ver1 = shared_info.vcpu_info[0].time.version;
> >      smp_rmb();
> > 
> >      system_time = shared_info.vcpu_info[0].time.system_time;
> >      tsc_timestamp = shared_info.vcpu_info[0].time.tsc_timestamp;
> >      tsc_to_system_mul = shared_info.vcpu_info[0].time.tsc_to_system_mul;
> >      tsc_shift = shared_info.vcpu_info[0].time.tsc_shift;
> >      tsc = rdtsc_ordered();
> >      /* NB: this barrier is probably not needed if rdtsc is serializing. */
> >      smp_rmb();
> > 
> >      ver2 = ACCESS_ONCE(shared_info.vcpu_info[0].time.version);
> > } while ( ver2 & 1 || ver1 != ver2 );
> > 
> 
> Just a (probably dumb) question. Why aren't you doing ACCESS_ONCE on every
> shared_info field accesses ?
> As far as I understand, we need to do this as most as we can to avoid having
> completely broken data (or security issues). Am I missing something ?

ACCESS_ONCE prevents the reordering of the reads, but here AFAICT we
don't really care about the order in which way they are performed as
long as they are all done before the read barrier (smp_rmb).

Note that I used ACCESS_ONCE for the last access to the version field.
I've done that to prevent the compiler from optimizing the code as:

} while ( shared_info.vcpu_info[0].time.version & 1 ||
          ver1 != shared_info.vcpu_info[0].time.version );

Which would be incorrect, since we want to use the same version data
for both checks in the while loop condition.

Roger.

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