Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 23/25] argo: signal x86 HVM and ARM via VIRQ

[Julien Grall <julien.grall@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Christopher,

On 04/12/2018 09:03, Christopher Clark wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 11:55 AM Julien Grall <Julien.Grall@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 01/12/2018 01:33, Christopher Clark wrote:
> > > * x86 PV domains are notified via event channel.
> > >
> > > PV guests are known to have the event channel software present in the guest
> > > kernel, so it is fine to depend on and use it.
> > >
> > > * x86 HVM domains and all ARM domains are notified via VIRQ.
> > >
> > > The intent is to remove the requirement for event channel software to be
> > > installed within these guests in order to use Argo. VIRQ signalling is also
> > > the method that has been in use for the longest period with this hypercall
> > > in both XenClient and OpenXT.
> > I am a bit confused. vIRQs are based on event channel, so how do you
> > remove the requirement on event channel?
> Are VIRQs always delivered via events in all cases? I was under the
> impression that was not necessarily so with HVM guests but I haven't
> checked and could well be incorrect.
It depends on your meaning of vIRQs. We seem to use it for two cases in the 
hypervisor.
In the context of send_guest_global_virq(), the interrupt will be 
para-virtualized as we delivered via events.
On Arm most of the virtual interrupts will goes through the virtual interrupt 
controller. They can be raised using vgic_inject_irq() and event channel are 
therefore not required. I think this is fairly similar on PVH/HVM but I will let 
the x86 folks confirm here.
> A bit of context might help with how this multiple-method logic (as
> submitted) was arrived at:
>
> 1) Both XenClient's original version of v4v, and that used in OpenXT,
> deliver notifications to guests via VIRQ.
> This logic has been performing fine for our uses cases, so there
> hasn't really been a push to switch away from it.
From my understanding, VIRQ is just a convenience alias for the guest to 
receive the associated event. The guest only need to say "I want to bind VIRQ 
foo". In the other case, you would need to allocate the event channel in the 
hypervisor and then pass the information somehow to the guest.
> 2) The last version of v4v that was submitted to xen-devel for
> iteration with the Xen community was intended to use event channels
> instead, in response to a request from Jan at the time. Given that
> expressed preference, I've added that, plumbing it in through via the
> IPI event method exposed in patch #01, and then used in patch #05, of
> the submitted series.
>
> 3) Bromium's uxen uses different logic for delivery of events to
> non-PV guests: an edge-triggered, ISA IRQ, along these lines:
>
>      #define ARGO_SIGNAL_ISA_IRQ 8
>      hvm_isa_irq_assert(d, ARGO_SIGNAL_ISA_IRQ, NULL);
>      hvm_isa_irq_deassert(d, ARGO_SIGNAL_ISA_IRQ);
>
> I'm told that this avoids the need to EOI in the guest, reducing the
> VMEXIT load, and using an ISA IRQ avoids some logic in Windows that
> requires that a device be detected. I briefly looked into adding this
> to Argo, but Linux wasn't immediately happy and I haven't had time to
> look into it further given the proximity of the 4.12 release, with
> other work still to complete.
>
> Anyway: since method 3 isn't ready to submit, and if VIRQs don't have
> an advantage over using event channels directly wrt. to needing
> in-guest support to function, then I can drop this patch (#23) and
> simplify the get_config op (#25), which will leave all notifications
> being delivered as events.
>
> Alternatively, if this is about which is the right delivery method for
> ARM, with some valid reason to retain use of VIRQ for HVM x86, then
> I'm happy to switch ARM over to deliver by the event method rather
> than VIRQ if that makes more sense.
For Arm, 3) would look the right approach if you want to avoid the dependencies 
on the event channel driver.
Cheers,

--
Julien Grall

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