[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] libxl: Documentation about the domain configuration on disk
On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 07:05:38PM +0000, Ian Jackson wrote: > Wei Liu writes ("Re: [PATCH] libxl: Documentation about the domain > configuration on disk"): > > On Thu, Dec 06, 2018 at 02:57:33PM +0000, Anthony PERARD wrote: > > > Anyway, that comment block isn't very helpful because it basically says > > > that we can't depriv QEMU, I mean do hotplug with a deprived QEMU. It > > > assumes that we can keep a lock on the userdata while updating the > > > guest, but we can't keep the lock while talking with QEMU (or more > > > generaly: we can't keep the lock while doing any async operation). > > > > > > But there is one useful piece of information: > > > Here we maintain one invariant: every device in xenstore must have > > > an entry in JSON file. > > > (xenstore is describe as "primary reference" just before that sentence). > > > > Yes. That. > ... > > When removing a CD, you only need to update the primary source -- QEMU > > in this case, you can leave libxl-json untouched. It is allowed to have > > stale entries in libxl-json. This is implied in "We may not even need > > this ..." further above. > > If you leave a state entry in libxl-json then you would reject > attempts to insert a new cd, because the libxl-json would tell you one > is already present. > > I think the lock difficulty Anthony identifies is real. We need to > either develop a new set of locking rules, or make all acquisitions of > the libxl-json lock slow. > > > The invariant that we want to maintain is: > > * Nothing may exist in the primary config without > a corresponding entry in libxl-json. > > The rules that implement that are: > > * No-one may edit the libxl-json without holding the lock. > > * You may not cause a thing to be added to the primary config > unless you have held the libxl-json lock continuously > since ensuring that the libxl-json config describes it. > > * Conversely you may not cause a thing to be removed from > the libxl-json unless you have held the libxl-json lock > continueously since ensuring the thing is absent > from the primary config. > > And unfortunately much code acquiring the libxl-json lock expects it > to be fast. > > > How about the following scheme. We split the libxl-json lock into > two. I'm going to call them the fast lock and the slow lock. > > * The fast lock is the existing libxl-json lock. > > * The slow lock is outside the libxl-json lock in the lock > hierarchy. It is also outside the libxl_ctx lock. It is > to be acquired by an ao event callback. > > * No-one may read or edit the libxl-json without holding the fast > lock across their read operation, or their read/modify/write > cycle. > > * However, there are special rules for thing removal/addition, for > things added/removed via qmp. Call these `qmp things'. It is > permissible to add or remove a qmp thing across two separate > acquisitions of the fast lock, one to read the old state of the > thing, and one to read/modify/write to update (only) the new state > of the thing. This is subject to the thing add/removal rule, from > before, which becomes: > > * You may not cause a thing to be added to the primary config > unless you have held the relevant thing lock continuously > since ensuring that the libxl-json config describes it. > > * Conversely you may not cause a thing to be removed from the > libxl-json unless you have held the relevant thing lock > continuously since ensuring the thing is absent from the primary > config. > > * The `relevant thing lock' is the slow lock for qmp things, and the > fast lock for other things. > > * Acquiring the fast lock fails for a destroyed domain, as at > present. I found out that this isn't exactly true. There is a short window where a thread can aquire the fast lock for a domain that is about to be destroyed. But this is fine as long as the thread tries to read the userdata before doing anything else. (The window is between userdata_destroyall and xc_domain_destroy.) > > I think this maintains the invariant. > > I haven't figured out domain destruction. Ideally domain destruction > could happen without taking the slow lock. > > I think this is probably possible if we make sure that qemu is always > killed before the libxl-json is removed. The result is that if a qmp > thing operation races with domain destruction, and in its 1st read > gets an existing libxl-json from before destruction, the qmp thing > will, when it acquires the fast lock again, necessarily the libxl-json > will not exist, and the qmp operation will bomb out. I've check the domain destruction functions in libxl. And that appear to be true from my understanding. Relevent actions taken in libxl, in that order: - kill QEMU - userdata_destroyall - xc_domain_destroy > But I don't exactly know how this relates to domain creation. In > general I haven't thought about races between domain creation and > domain destruction. We don't want a situation like this: > > 1 domain destruction tries to kill qemu (but it doesn't exist yet) > 2 domain creation creates libxl-json and qemu > 3 domain creation complets > 4 qmp add reads libxl-json, sees thing absent > 5 qmp add sends qmp command > 6 qmp add gets qmp response and updates libxl-json > 7 domain destruction deletes the libxl-json > 8 domain destruction crashes before it destroys domain in Xen I think there is already a race, and `xl destroy` can leak QEMU. I've called `xl create` with a sleep before spawn_local_dm, and during the sleep, I call `xl destroy` with a sleep after it had an oportunity to kill QEMU. So we have: 1 domain creation xc_domain_create 2 domain destruction doesn't kill qemu, it's not there yet. 3 domain creation spawn qemu 4 domain creation creates libxl-json 5 domain creation complets 6 domain destruction deletes libxl-json 7 domain destruction xc_domain_destroy and complets And QEMU leaks. I don't know where domain destruction could crash. And I don't think `qmp add` is relevant in the race between creation and destruction. > Maybe qemu's existence is `primary non-qmp state' and in fact domain > destruction is not allowed to destroy it without holding the > libxl-json lock. But I bet that rule is not honoured right now. I think it's fine for domain destruction to kill QEMU without any lock. Any threads communicating via QMP should receive an error. > Comments, anyone ? That slow lock idea looks fine otherwise, we could call it "libxl-qmp-lock" for now and have it mandatory when adding/removing things via QMP. If a slow lock is needed for other thing than QMP, we can change the meaning. -- Anthony PERARD _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.xenproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xen-devel
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