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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 08/14] AMD/IOMMU: introduce 128-bit IRTE non-guest-APIC IRTE format


  • To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@xxxxxxxx>
  • From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 14:36:59 +0100
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On 22/07/2019 09:34, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 19.07.2019 19:27, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 16/07/2019 17:38, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> @@ -142,7 +178,15 @@ static void free_intremap_entry(const st
>>>    {
>>>        union irte_ptr entry = get_intremap_entry(iommu, bdf, index);
>>>    
>>> -    ACCESS_ONCE(entry.ptr32->raw[0]) = 0;
>>> +    if ( iommu->ctrl.ga_en )
>>> +    {
>>> +        ACCESS_ONCE(entry.ptr128->raw[0]) = 0;
>>> +        /* Low half (containing RemapEn) needs to be cleared first. */
>>> +        barrier();
>> While this will function on x86, I still consider this buggy.  From a
>> conceptual point of view, barrier() is not the correct construction to
>> use, whereas smp_wmb() is.
> I think it's the 3rd time now that I respond saying that barrier() is
> as good or as bad as smp_wmb(), just for different reasons.

barrier() and smp_wmb() are different constructs, with specific,
*different* meanings.  From a programmers point of view, they should be
considered black boxes of functionality.

barrier() is for forcing the compiler to not reorder things.

smp_wmb() is about the external visibility of writes, as observed by a
different entity on a coherent fabric.

The fact they alias on x86 in an implementation detail of x86 cache
coherency - it does not mean they can legitimately be alternated in code.

This piece of code is a 2-way communication between the CPU core and the
IOMMU, over a coherent cache.  The IOMMU logically has an smp_rmb() in
its mirror functionality (although that is likely not how the property
is expressed).

> While I
> agree with you that barrier() is correct on x86 only, I'm yet to hear
> back from you on my argument that smp_wmb() is incorrect when
> considering its UP semantics (which we don't currently implement, but
> which Linux as the origin of the construct can well be used for
> reference).

UP vs SMP doesn't affect which is the correct construct to use.

>  And I think we both don't really want wmb() here.

No, because wmb() is definitely not the right thing to use.

~Andrew

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