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Re: [PATCH 02/17] x86: split __{get,put}_user() into "guest" and "unsafe" variants
- To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@xxxxxxxx>
- From: Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 17:18:51 +0100
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On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 05:13:22PM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 05.02.2021 16:43, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 04:04:11PM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> The "guest" variants are intended to work with (potentially) fully guest
> >> controlled addresses, while the "unsafe" variants are not.
> >
> > Just to clarify, both work against user addresses, but guest variants
> > need to be more careful because the guest provided address can also be
> > modified?
> >
> > I'm trying to understand the difference between "fully guest
> > controlled" and "guest controlled".
>
> Not exactly, not. "unsafe" means access to anything which may
> fault, guest controlled or not. do_invalid_op()'s reading of
> the insn stream is a good example - the faulting insn there
> isn't guest controlled at all, but we still want to be careful
> when trying to read these bytes, as we don't want to fully
> trust %rip there.
Would it make sense to threat everything as 'guest' accesses for the
sake of not having this difference?
I think having two accessors it's likely to cause confusion and could
possibly lead to the wrong one being used in unexpected contexts. Does
it add a too big performance penalty to always use the most
restrictive one?
Thanks, Roger.
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