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Hi Paul, Please keep me in CC so that i can more easily find out that you answered me :-) > On 25 Jan 2024, at 00:05, Paul Leiber <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Elliot, Bertrand, George: Thanks for your replies. > > Am 23.01.2024 um 09:29 schrieb Bertrand Marquis: >> Hi, >> will try to explain some of the messages here after but I am not sure of >> the reason >> of the crash so I will just set some pointers... >>> On 22 Jan 2024, at 11:46, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 8:32 PM Elliott Mitchell <ehem+xen@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 10:54:24PM +0100, Paul Leiber wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Am 22.10.2023 um 07:42 schrieb Paul Leiber: >>>>>> Am 13.10.2023 um 20:56 schrieb Paul Leiber: >>>>>>> Hi Xen developers list, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TL;DR: >>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Causing certain web server traffic on a secondary VLAN on Raspberry Pi >>>>>>> under vanilla Debian/UEFI in combination with Xen leads to complete >>>>>>> system reboot (watchdog triggering for Dom0). Other strange things are >>>>>>> happening. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Description: >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I recently set up Xen (self compiled, Version 4.18-rc) on a Raspberry >>>>>>> Pi 4B (on vanilla Debian Bookworm, UEFI boot mode). Until some time >>>>>>> ago, everything worked well with Dom0, one DomU and one bridge. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then I wanted to actually make use of the virtualization and started >>>>>>> to set up a second Debian Bookworm DomU (using xen-create-image) for >>>>>>> monitoring my systems with zabbix (a webserver based system monitoring >>>>>>> solution). The bridge used for this setup was the device bridging the >>>>>>> hardware NIC. I installed zabbix, set it up, and everything went well, >>>>>>> I could access the web interface without any problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then I set up VLANs (initally using VLAN numbers 1 and 2) to separate >>>>>>> network traffic between the DomUs. I made the existing device bridge >>>>>>> VLAN 1 (bridge 1) and created a secondary device for bridging VLAN 2 >>>>>>> (bridge 2). Using only bridge 1 / VLAN 1 everything works well, I can >>>>>>> access the zabbix web interface without any noticeable issue. After >>>>>>> switching the zabbix DomU to VLAN 2 / bridge 2, everything seemingly >>>>>>> keeps on working well, I can ping different devices in my network from >>>>>>> the zabbix DomU and vice versa, I can ssh into the machine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, as soon as I remotely access the zabbix web interface, the >>>>>>> complete system (DomUs and Dom0) becomes unresponsive and reboots >>>>>>> after some time (usually seconds, sometimes 1-2 minutes). The reboot >>>>>>> is reliably reproducable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I didn't see any error message in any log (zabbix, DomU syslog, Dom0 >>>>>>> syslog) except for the following lines immediately before the system >>>>>>> reboots on the Xen serial console: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (XEN) Watchdog timer fired for domain 0 >>>>>>> (XEN) Hardware Dom0 shutdown: watchdog rebooting machine >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As soon as I change the bridge to bridge 1 (with or without VLAN >>>>>>> setup), the web interface is accessible again after booting the zabbix >>>>>>> DomU, no reboots. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I assume that causing specific traffic on the virtual NIC when >>>>>>> using a VLAN setup with more than one VLAN under Xen makes the Dom0 >>>>>>> system hard crash. Of course, there might be other causes that I'm not >>>>>>> aware of, but to me, this seems to be the most likely explanation >>>>>>> right now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What I tried: >>>>>>> ------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. I changed the VLAN numbers. First to 101, 102, 103 etc. This was >>>>>>> when I noticed another strange thing: VLANs with numbers >99 simply >>>>>>> don't work on my Raspberry Pi under Debian, with or without Xen. VLAN >>>>>>> 99 works, VLAN 100 (or everything else >99 that I tried) doesn't work. >>>>>>> If I choose a number >99, the VLAN is not configured, "ip a" doesn't >>>>>>> list it. Other Debian systems on x64 architecture don't show this >>>>>>> behavior, there, it was no problem to set up VLANs > 99. Therefore, >>>>>>> I've changed the VLANs to 10, 20, 30 etc., which worked. But it didn't >>>>>>> solve the initial problem of the crashing Dom0 and DomUs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Different bridge options, without noticable effect: >>>>>>> bridge_stp off # dont use STP (spanning tree proto) >>>>>>> bridge_waitport 0 # dont wait for port to be available >>>>>>> bridge_fd 0 # no forward delay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. Removing IPv6: No noticable effect. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Network traffic analysis: Now, here it becomes _really_ strange. I >>>>>>> started tcpdumps on Dom0, and depending on on which interface/bridge >>>>>>> traffic was logged, the problem went away, meaning, the DomU was >>>>>>> running smoothly for hours, even when accessing the zabbix web >>>>>>> interface. Stopping the log makes the system crash (as above, after >>>>>>> seconds up to 1-2 minutes) reproducably if I access the zabbix web >>>>>>> interface. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Logging enabcm6e4ei0 (NIC): no crashes >>>>>>> Logging enabcm6e4ei0.10 (VLAN 10): instant crash >>>>>>> Logging enabcm6e4ei0.20 (VLAN 20): no crashes >>>>>>> Logging xenbr0 (on VLAN 10): instant crash >>>>>>> Logging xenbr1 (on VLAN 20): no crashes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am clinging to the thought that there must be a rational explanation >>>>>>> for why logging the traffic on certain interfaces/bridges should avoid >>>>>>> the crash of the complete system, while logging other >>>>>>> interfaces/bridges doesn't. I myself can't think of one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I checked the dumps of enabcm6e4ei0.10 and xenbr0 (where the system >>>>>>> crashes) with wireshark, nothing sticks out to me (but I am really no >>>>>>> expert in analyzing network traffic). Dumps can be provided. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5. Watchdog: I tried to dig deeper into the cause for the watchdog >>>>>>> triggering. However, I didn't find any useful documentation on the web >>>>>>> on how the watchdog works or how to enable logging. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6. Eliminating Xen as cause: I booted the Debian system (which in Xen >>>>>>> setup would be Dom0) without Xen and set it up to use the VLAN 20 >>>>>>> bridge (the same that leads to a reboot when using it in the DomU) as >>>>>>> primary network interface. Everything seemed to be working, I could >>>>>>> download large files from the internet without any problem. Setting up >>>>>>> Zabbix on the base Debian system showed that the same setup (VLANs 10 >>>>>>> and 20, bridges 1 and 2, using bridge 2 as interface for Zabbix) >>>>>>> without Xen is working reliably, no reboots. This points to some Xen >>>>>>> related component being the root cause, I think. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 7. Eliminating Apache as root cause: Reloading the Apache starting >>>>>>> page hosted on DomU several times per second didn't lead to a reboot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8. Recompiling Xen: Independent of which Xen master branch version I >>>>>>> was using (all 4.18), the behavior was the same. I didn't get Xen >>>>>>> working on ARM64/UEFI in version 4.17. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Current situation:(XEN) d3v0 Unhandled SMC/HVC: 0x84000050 >>>>> (XEN) d3v0 Unhandled SMC/HVC: 0x8600ff01 >>>>> (XEN) d3v0: vGICD: unhandled word write 0x000000ffffffff to ICACTIVER0 >>>>> (XEN) common/grant_table.c:1909:d3v0 Expanding d3 grant table from 1 to >>>>> 2 frames >>>>> (XEN) common/grant_table.c:1909:d3v0 Expanding d3 grant table from 2 to >>>>> 3 frames >>>>> (XEN) common/grant_table.c:1909:d3v0 Expanding d3 grant table from 3 to >>>>> 4 frames >>>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am out of ideas what to do next. Everything that was recommended to >>>>>>> me on xen-users didn't lead to significant insight or solve the problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd appreciate any hints how to troubleshoot this and/or how to >>>>>>> proceed otherwise. >>>>>> >>>>>> O.k., let's try to break that issue down. >>>>>> >>>>>> Firstly, how can I get more information on why the Xen watchdog >>>>>> triggers? Is there documentation? Are there any logs? I couldn't find >>>>>> anything useful with my search skills. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> After some delay, I have picked up the Raspberry Pi again, built Xen >>>>> 4.19-unstable, with the same result: Reboot of the complete system after >>>>> the Dom0 watchdog triggering when accessing the Zabbix content on a >>>>> webserver on DomU. >>>>> >>>>> I still would like to find out what's going wrong here, but I have no >>>>> idea what to do. I'd appreciate any hint. >>>>> >>>>> Not knowing if it helps, I added Xen logs from boot until Dom0 >>>>> crash/reboot below. >>>>> >>>>> Loading Xen xen ... >>>>> Loading Linux 6.1.0-17-arm64 ... >>>>> Loading initial ramdisk ... >>>>> Using modules provided by bootloader in FDT >>>>> Xen 4.19-unstable (c/s Fri Jan 12 11:54:31 2024 +0000 >>>>> git:1ec3fe1f66-dirty) EFI >>>>> loader >>>>> Xen 4.19-unstable >>>>> (XEN) Xen version 4.19-unstable (root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) (gcc (Debian >>>>> 12.2.0- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 14) 12.2.0) debug=y Sun Jan 14 21:46:34 CET >>>>> 2024 >>>>> (XEN) Latest ChangeSet: Fri Jan 12 11:54:31 2024 +0000 >>>>> git:1ec3fe1f66-dirty >>>>> (XEN) build-id: babb03cb6107fc46f7d8969142ccd6772a1133c3 >>>>> (XEN) Console output is synchronous. >>>>> (XEN) Processor: 00000000410fd083: "ARM Limited", variant: 0x0, part >>>>> 0xd08,rev 0 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> x3 >>>>> (XEN) 64-bit Execution: >>>>> (XEN) Processor Features: 0000000000002222 0000000000000000 >>>>> (XEN) Exception Levels: EL3:64+32 EL2:64+32 EL1:64+32 EL0:64+32 >>>>> (XEN) Extensions: FloatingPoint AdvancedSIMD >>>>> (XEN) Debug Features: 0000000010305106 0000000000000000 >>>>> (XEN) Auxiliary Features: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 >>>>> (XEN) Memory Model Features: 0000000000001124 0000000000000000 >>>>> (XEN) ISA Features: 0000000000010000 0000000000000000 >>>>> (XEN) 32-bit Execution: >>>>> (XEN) Processor Features: 0000000000000131:0000000000011011 >>>>> (XEN) Instruction Sets: AArch32 A32 Thumb Thumb-2 Jazelle >>>>> (XEN) Extensions: GenericTimer Security >>>>> (XEN) Debug Features: 0000000003010066 >>>>> (XEN) Auxiliary Features: 0000000000000000 >>>>> (XEN) Memory Model Features: 0000000010201105 0000000040000000 >>>>> (XEN) 0000000001260000 0000000002102211 >>>>> (XEN) ISA Features: 0000000002101110 0000000013112111 0000000021232042 >>>>> (XEN) 0000000001112131 0000000000011142 0000000000010001 >>>>> (XEN) Using SMC Calling Convention v1.2 >>>>> (XEN) Using PSCI v1.1 >>>>> (XEN) ACPI: GICC (acpi_id[0x0000] address[0xff842000] MPIDR[0x0] enabled) >>>>> (XEN) ACPI: GICC (acpi_id[0x0001] address[0xff842000] MPIDR[0x1] enabled) >>>>> (XEN) ACPI: GICC (acpi_id[0x0002] address[0xff842000] MPIDR[0x2] enabled) >>>>> (XEN) ACPI: GICC (acpi_id[0x0003] address[0xff842000] MPIDR[0x3] enabled) >>>>> (XEN) 4 CPUs enabled, 4 CPUs total >>>>> (XEN) SMP: Allowing 4 CPUs >>>>> (XEN) enabled workaround for: ARM erratum 1319537 >>>>> (XEN) Generic Timer IRQ: phys=30 hyp=26 virt=27 Freq: 54000 KHz >>>>> (XEN) GICv2 initialization: >>>>> (XEN) gic_dist_addr=00000000ff841000 >>>>> (XEN) gic_cpu_addr=00000000ff842000 >>>>> (XEN) gic_hyp_addr=00000000ff844000 >>>>> (XEN) gic_vcpu_addr=00000000ff846000 >>>>> (XEN) gic_maintenance_irq=25 >>>>> (XEN) GICv2: 256 lines, 4 cpus, secure (IID 0200143b). >>>>> (XEN) XSM Framework v1.0.1 initialized >>>>> (XEN) Initialising XSM SILO mode >>>>> (XEN) Using scheduler: SMP Credit Scheduler rev2 (credit2) >>>>> (XEN) Initializing Credit2 scheduler >>>>> (XEN) load_precision_shift: 18 >>>>> (XEN) load_window_shift: 30 >>>>> (XEN) underload_balance_tolerance: 0 >>>>> (XEN) overload_balance_tolerance: -3 >>>>> (XEN) runqueues arrangement: socket >>>>> (XEN) cap enforcement granularity: 10ms >>>>> (XEN) load tracking window length 1073741824 ns >>>>> (XEN) Allocated console ring of 32 KiB. >>>>> (XEN) CPU0: Guest atomics will try 16 times before pausing the domain >>>>> (XEN) Bringing up CPU1 >>>>> (XEN) CPU1: Guest atomics will try 16 times before pausing the domain >>>>> (XEN) CPU 1 booted. >>>>> (XEN) Bringing up CPU2 >>>>> (XEN) CPU2: Guest atomics will try 13 times before pausing the domain >>>>> (XEN) CPU 2 booted. >>>>> (XEN) Bringing up CPU3 >>>>> (XEN) CPU3: Guest atomics will try 16 times before pausing the domain >>>>> (XEN) Brought up 4 CPUs >>>>> (XEN) CPU 3 booted. >>>>> (XEN) I/O virtualisation disabled >>>>> (XEN) P2M: 44-bit IPA with 44-bit PA and 8-bit VMID >>>>> (XEN) P2M: 4 levels with order-0 root, VTCR 0x0000000080043594 >>>>> (XEN) Scheduling granularity: cpu, 1 CPU per sched-resource >>>>> (XEN) Initializing Credit2 scheduler >>>>> (XEN) load_precision_shift: 18 >>>>> (XEN) load_window_shift: 30 >>>>> (XEN) underload_balance_tolerance: 0 >>>>> (XEN) overload_balance_tolerance: -3 >>>>> (XEN) runqueues arrangement: socket >>>>> (XEN) cap enforcement granularity: 10ms >>>>> (XEN) load tracking window length 1073741824 ns >>>>> (XEN) Adding cpu 0 to runqueue 0 >>>>> (XEN) First cpu on runqueue, activating >>>>> (XEN) Adding cpu 1 to runqueue 0 >>>>> (XEN) Adding cpu 2 to runqueue 0 >>>>> (XEN) Adding cpu 3 to runqueue 0 >>>>> (XEN) alternatives: Patching with alt table 00000a00002ee0b0 -> >>>>> 00000a00002ef250 >>>>> (XEN) CPU2 will call ARM_SMCCC_ARCH_WORKAROUND_1 on exception entry >>>>> (XEN) CPU1 will call ARM_SMCCC_ARCH_WORKAROUND_1 on exception entry >>>>> (XEN) CPU3 will call ARM_SMCCC_ARCH_WORKAROUND_1 on exception entry >>>>> (XEN) CPU0 will call ARM_SMCCC_ARCH_WORKAROUND_1 on exception entry >>>>> (XEN) *** LOADING DOMAIN 0 *** >>>>> (XEN) Loading d0 kernel from boot module @ 0000000030ef7000 >>>>> (XEN) Loading ramdisk from boot module @ 000000002ee6d000 >>>>> (XEN) Allocating 1:1 mappings totalling 1024MB for dom0: >>>>> (XEN) BANK[0] 0x00000040000000-0x00000080000000 (1024MB) >>>>> (XEN) Grant table range: 0x0000002eceb000-0x0000002ed2b000 >>>>> (XEN) Allocating PPI 16 for event channel interrupt >>>>> (XEN) Loading zImage from 0000000030ef7000 to >>>>> 0000000040000000-0000000041f1c7c0 >>>>> (XEN) Loading d0 initrd from 000000002ee6d000 to >>>>> 0x0000000048200000-0x000000004a >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 288c22 >>>>> (XEN) Loading d0 DTB to 0x0000000048000000-0x00000000480002c3 >>>>> (XEN) Initial low memory virq threshold set at 0x4000 pages. >>>>> (XEN) Scrubbing Free RAM in background >>>>> (XEN) Std. Loglevel: All >>>>> (XEN) Guest Loglevel: All >>>>> (XEN) *************************************************** >>>>> (XEN) WARNING: CONSOLE OUTPUT IS SYNCHRONOUS >>>>> (XEN) This option is intended to aid debugging of Xen by ensuring >>>>> (XEN) that all output is synchronously delivered on the serial line. >>>>> (XEN) However it can introduce SIGNIFICANT latencies and affect >>>>> (XEN) timekeeping. It is NOT recommended for production use! >>>>> (XEN) *************************************************** >>>>> (XEN) 3... 2... 1... >>>>> (XEN) *** Serial input to DOM0 (type 'CTRL-a' three times to switch input) >>>>> (XEN) Freed 376kB init memory. >>>>> (XEN) d0v0 Unhandled SMC/HVC: 0x84000050 >>>>> (XEN) d0v0 Unhandled SMC/HVC: 0x8600ff01 >> This means Linux is trying to do some kind of smc call which is not handled. >> I will highly suggest to investigate here as it could really be some platform >> specific calls trying to enable some clocks. >>>>> (XEN) d0v0: vGICD: unhandled word write 0x000000ffffffff to ICACTIVER4 >>>>> (XEN) d0v0: vGICD: unhandled word write 0x000000ffffffff to ICACTIVER8 >>>>> (XEN) d0v0: vGICD: unhandled word write 0x000000ffffffff to ICACTIVER12 >>>>> (XEN) d0v0: vGICD: unhandled word write 0x000000ffffffff to ICACTIVER16 >>>>> (XEN) d0v0: vGICD: unhandled word write 0x000000ffffffff to ICACTIVER20 >>>>> (XEN) d0v0: vGICD: unhandled word write 0x000000ffffffff to ICACTIVER24 >>>>> (XEN) d0v0: vGICD: unhandled word write 0x000000ffffffff to ICACTIVER28 >>>>> (XEN) d0v0: vGICD: unhandled word write 0x000000ffffffff to ICACTIVER0 >>>>> (XEN) d0v1: vGICD: unhandled word write 0x000000ffffffff to ICACTIVER0 >>>>> (XEN) d0v2: vGICD: unhandled word write 0x000000ffffffff to ICACTIVER0 >>>>> (XEN) d0v3: vGICD: unhandled word write 0x000000ffffffff to ICACTIVER0 >> Those can be ignored. This is Linux writing to some GIC registers we do not >> emulate so we warn that those are ignored. Those messages are present on >> all arm targets when the log level of Xen is high. >>>>> (XEN) d1v0 Unhandled SMC/HVC: 0x84000050 >>>>> (XEN) d1v0 Unhandled SMC/HVC: 0x8600ff01 >> Same as upper done on a different core >>>>> (XEN) d1v0: vGICD: unhandled word write 0x000000ffffffff to ICACTIVER0 >> Can be ignored as explained earlier >>>>> (XEN) common/grant_table.c:1909:d1v0 Expanding d1 grant table from 1 to >>>>> 2 frames >> Those are internal debug messages to Xen and can be ignored (they are present >> on most arm targets). >>>>> (XEN) gnttab_mark_dirty not implemented yet >> Can be ignored to >>>>> (XEN) d2v0 Unhandled SMC/HVC: 0x84000050 >>>>> (XEN) d2v0 Unhandled SMC/HVC: 0x8600ff01 >> Same as upper on a different core >>>>> (XEN) d2v0: vGICD: unhandled word write 0x000000 >> Same as upper on a different core > > Is this also relevant or not? This one is weird and i cannot identify where it could come from as all printk in vGICD have something after. Maybe specific to your version of Xen. But I would say you can ignore. > > I couldn't identify this yet. There is a mailing list exchange that could be > related: > > https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2021-09/msg00382.html > > Although I'm a little bit puzzled because when comparing with the other > messages, this log meassage seems to be missing some parts "vGICD: unhandled > word write 0x000000" instead of "vGICD: unhandled word write 0x000000xxxxxxx > to y" Agree, could be that something is lost in the console. > >>>>> ffffffff to ICACTIVER0 >>>>> (XEN) common/grant_table.c:1909:d2v0 Expanding d2 grant table from 1 to >>>>> 2 frames >>>>> (XEN) common/grant_table.c:1909:d2v0 Expanding d2 grant table from 2 to >>>>> 3 frames >>>>> (XEN) common/grant_table.c:1909:d2v0 Expanding d2 grant table from 3 to >>>>> 4 frames >>>>> (XEN) Watchdog timer fired for domain 0 >>>>> (XEN) Hardware Dom0 shutdown: watchdog rebooting machine >>>> >>>> I'm unsure whose attention to draw to this report. >>>> >>>> This might be a scheduler issue since the watchdog timer is triggering. >>>> >>>> This might be an ACPI issue as ACPI is in use here. >>>> >>>> This might be an ARM Linux kernel issue. >>>> >>>> In the end this is someone running into trouble with Xen on an ARM >>>> device. Yet despite bringing up the issue hasn't gotten any help... >>> >>> Hey Elliot, >>> >>> Thanks for raising the visibility of this. I'm not familiar with ARM, >>> but if I were investigating this I'd try to figure out what the >>> "unhandled" error messages are. "gnttab_mark_dirty not implemented >>> yet" looks pretty sus too, and also sounds like it might be something >>> ARM-specific. >> I tried to explain those and they are not the reason of the problem. >>> >>> I don't see anything suspicious WRT the scheduler, but a simple way to >>> test that would be to set the scheduler to credit1 and see if that >>> changes things. >> I would definitely suggest to investigate the 2 unhandled SMC/HVC calls >> as if one of them is to enable some clock it could explain why the system is >> getting stuck at some point (maybe waiting for something to be started). >> Other than that i did not see anything that could point to an obvious issue. > > I'll try to use credit1 scheduler and report results when I've got some more > time, just to make sure. This is not related to the scheduler. When i said clock i meant linux trying to configure the clock frequency or voltage of a specific peripheral. > > From what I could find out in ARM documentation, the unhandled calls seem to > be the following: > > 0x84000050 = TRNG_VERSION, returns the implemented TRNG (True Random Number > Generator) ABI version [1] Could be the origin but then you can ignore i would say, linux might fall back to an other way. > 0x8600ff01 = Call UID Query for Vendor Specific Hypervisor Service, Returns a > unique identifier of the service provider [2] I would say this one is the problem and you would need to dig in Linux to understand what vendor specific call is being made. Linux might expect that this one is done but Xen is ignoring it. So Linux could just be waiting for something that was actually not started at all. > > Does this make sense? > > What could be next steps? I would say understand in Linux who is generating this call and try to disable in the linux configuration whatever clock/voltage/performance driver is doing this call. Regards Bertrand > > Thanks, > > Paul > > [1] https://developer.arm.com/documentation/den0098/latest/ > [2] > https://documentation-service.arm.com/static/628b755ce3c4322a76af56de?token=
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