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Re: [PATCH v3 2/7] x86: re-work memset()


  • To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:38:22 +0100
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On 26.11.2024 18:13, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 25/11/2024 2:28 pm, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> ---
>> We may want to consider branching over the REP STOSQ as well, if the
>> number of qwords turns out to be zero.
> 
> Until FSR{S,M} (Fast Short Rep {STO,MOV}SB), which is far newer than
> ERMS, passing 0 into any REP instruction is expensive.

Is this a request to add such a conditional branch then, perhaps patched
out when FSRS is available? And then perhaps also for the JZ that's
already there?

> I wonder how often we memset with a size less than 8.

Hence why I raised the point, rather than putting the jump there directly.

>> We may also want to consider using non-REP STOS{L,W,B} for the tail.
> 
> Probably, yes.  We use this form in non-ERMS cases, where we're advised
> to stay away from STOSB entirely.

Yet then we'll end up with three conditional branches - do we really want
that?

> Interestingly, Linux doesn't have a STOSQ case at all.  Or rather, it
> was deleted by Linus in 20f3337d350c last year.  It was also identified
> as causing a performance regression. 
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CANn89iKUbyrJ=r2+_kK+sb2ZSSHifFZ7QkPLDpAtkJ8v4WUumA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/T/#u
> although the memset() path was not reverted as part of the fix
> (47ee3f1dd93bcb eventually).
> 
> Yet ca96b162bfd2 shows that REP MOVSQ is still definitely a win on Rome
> CPUs.
> 
> I expect we probably do want some non-rep forms in here.
> 
> Do you have any benchmarks with this series?

What I specifically measured were the clear_page() variants. I didn't do
any measurements for memset() (or memcpy()), first ad foremost because
any selection of inputs is going to be arbitrary rather than representative.

>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/xen/arch/x86/memset.S
>> @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@
>> +#include <asm/asm_defns.h>
>> +
>> +.macro memset
>> +        and     $7, %edx
>> +        shr     $3, %rcx
>> +        movzbl  %sil, %esi
>> +        mov     $0x0101010101010101, %rax
>> +        imul    %rsi, %rax
>> +        mov     %rdi, %rsi
>> +        rep stosq
>> +        or      %edx, %ecx
>> +        jz      0f
>> +        rep stosb
>> +0:
>> +        mov     %rsi, %rax
> 
> Could you use %r8/9/etc instead of %rsi please?  This is deceptively
> close to looking like a bug, and it took me a while to figure out it's
> only correct because STOSB only edits %rdi.

Well, I can certainly switch (the number of REX prefixes will remain the
same as it looks), but the fact that STOS, unlike MOVS, doesn't touch
%rsi is a pretty basic one.

Does your request extend to all uses of %rsi (and %esi), or merely the
latter two (across the REP STOS)?

Jan



 


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