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Re: [PATCH 2/4] xsm/silo: Support hwdom/control domains


  • To: Jason Andryuk <jason.andryuk@xxxxxxx>
  • From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 15:17:50 +0200
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  • Cc: "Daniel P. Smith" <dpsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 13:18:06 +0000
  • List-id: Xen developer discussion <xen-devel.lists.xenproject.org>

On 11.06.2025 00:57, Jason Andryuk wrote:
> In a disaggregated environment, dom0 is split into Control, Hardware,
> and Xenstore domains, along with domUs.  The is_control_domain() check
> is not sufficient to handle all these cases.  Add is_priv_domain() to
> support allowing for the various domains.
> 
> The purpose of SILO mode is to prevent domUs from interacting with each
> other.  But dom0 was allowed to communicate with domUs to provide
> services.  As the disaggregation of dom0, Control, Hardware and Xenstore
> are all service domains that need to communicate with other domains.
> 
> To provide xenstore connections, the Xenstore domain must be allowed to
> connect via grants and event channels.  Xenstore domain must also be
> allowed to connect to Control and Hardware to provide xenstore to them.

Are you suggesting that SILO at present is incompatible with a Xenstore
domain? silo_mode_dom_check() in its original form has no special
precautions, after all.

> Hardware domain will provide PV devices to domains, so it must be
> allowed to connect to domains.

As a built-in policy, isn't this already going too far? There could
conceivably be configurations with only pass-through devices in use, in
which case neither grants nor the event channels operations intercepted
by SILO would be required.

> That leaves Control.  Xenstore and Hardware would already allow access
> to Control, so it can obtain services that way.  Control should be
> "privileged", which would mean it can make the connections.  But with
> Xenstore and Hardware providing their services to domUs, there may not
> be a reason to allow Control to use grants or event channels with domUs.
> Still, Control is privileged, so it should be allowed to do something if
> it chooses.  Establishing a grant, or event channel requires action on
> both sides, so allow for the possibility.  This does open up an argo
> wildcard ring from domUs, FWIW.

Along the lines of my reply to patch 1, I think Hardware and Control
need to have a pretty strong boundary between them. It's hard to see,
for example, whether grant map/copy/transfer would indeed make sense
between the two.

Similarly I'm not convinced a strong boundary isn't also needed
between Xenstore and Hardware.

> --- a/xen/xsm/silo.c
> +++ b/xen/xsm/silo.c
> @@ -20,6 +20,12 @@
>  #define XSM_NO_WRAPPERS
>  #include <xsm/dummy.h>
>  
> +static bool is_priv_domain(const struct domain *d)
> +{
> +    return is_xenstore_domain(d) || is_hardware_domain(d) ||
> +           is_control_domain(d);
> +}

This construct expands to two evaluate_nospec(), which likely isn't
wanted. Some open-coding may be pretty much unavoidable here. (I'm
surprised it's not three, i.e. I find it odd that is_xenstore_domain()
doesn't also use that guard.)

Jan



 


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