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Re: [PATCH v2] xen: Use auto as per C23


  • To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@xxxxxxxx>, Nicola Vetrini <nicola.vetrini@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:51:20 +0100
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  • Cc: Xen-devel <xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@xxxxxxxxxx>, Michal Orzel <michal.orzel@xxxxxxx>, Julien Grall <julien@xxxxxxx>, Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@xxxxxxxxxx>, Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@xxxxxxxxxx>, Roberto Bagnara <roberto.bagnara@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "consulting @ bugseng . com" <consulting@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Delivery-date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 09:51:45 +0000
  • List-id: Xen developer discussion <xen-devel.lists.xenproject.org>

On 15/08/2025 10:36 am, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 15.08.2025 10:33, Nicola Vetrini wrote:
>> On 2025-08-15 10:17, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>> On 15/08/2025 8:20 am, Nicola Vetrini wrote:
>>>> On 2025-08-15 00:25, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>>> In macros it is common to declare local variables using typeof(param)
>>>>> in order
>>>>> to ensure that side effects are only evaluated once.  A consequence
>>>>> of this is
>>>>> double textural expansion of the parameter, which can get out of hand
>>>>> very
>>>>> quickly with nested macros.
>>>>>
>>>>> In C23, the auto keyword has been repurposed to perform type 
>>>>> inference.
>>>>>
>>>>> A GCC extension, __auto_type, is now avaialble in the new toolchain
>>>>> baseline
>>>>> and avoids the double textural expansion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Nicola Vetrini <nicola.vetrini@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Thankyou.
>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/xen/include/xen/compiler.h b/xen/include/xen/compiler.h
>>>>> index 88bf26bc5109..38ef5d82ad95 100644
>>>>> --- a/xen/include/xen/compiler.h
>>>>> +++ b/xen/include/xen/compiler.h
>>>>> @@ -64,6 +64,20 @@
>>>>>  # define asm_inline asm
>>>>>  #endif
>>>>>
>>>>> +/*
>>>>> + * In C23, the auto keyword has been repurposed to perform type
>>>>> inference.
>>>>> + *
>>>>> + * This behaviour is available via the __auto_type extension in
>>>>> supported
>>>>> + * toolchains.
>>>>> + *
>>>>> + *
>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/software/c-intro-and-ref/manual/html_node/Auto-Type.html
>>>>> + * https://clang.llvm.org/docs/LanguageExtensions.html#auto-type
>>>>> + */
>>>>> +#if !defined(__STDC_VERSION__) || __STDC_VERSION__ < 202311L
>>>>> +/* SAF-3-safe MISRA C Rule 20.4: Giving the keyword it's C23
>>>>> meaning. */
>>>>> +#define auto __auto_type
>>>>> +#endif
>>>>> +
>>>> A more detailed explanation should live in deviations.rst under this
>>>> bullet point
>>>>
>>>>    * - R20.4
>>>>      - The override of the keyword \"inline\" in xen/compiler.h is
>>>> present so
>>>>        that section contents checks pass when the compiler chooses not 
>>>> to
>>>>        inline a particular function.
>>>>      - Comment-based deviation.
>>>>
>>>> as described in the SAF entry:
>>>>
>>>>         {
>>>>             "id": "SAF-3-safe",
>>>>             "analyser": {
>>>>                 "eclair": "MC3A2.R20.4"
>>>>             },
>>>>             "name": "MC3A2.R20.4: allow the definition of a macro with
>>>> the same name as a keyword in some special cases",
>>>>             "text": "The definition of a macro with the same name as a
>>>> keyword can be useful in certain configurations to improve the
>>>> guarantees that can be provided by Xen. See docs/misra/deviations.rst
>>>> for a precise rationale for all such cases."
>>>>         },
>>> Ah right.  What about this:
>>>
>>> "Xen does not use the \"auto\" keyword as a storage qualifier.  The
>>> override of the keyword \"auto\" in xen/compiler.h is to give it it's
>>> C23 behaviour of type inference."
>>>
>>> ?
>> Seems good to me. Maybe this should be spelled out in ./CODING_STYLE as 
>> well, so that newcomers don't trip over this?
> I'm not sure newcomers would look there, but in the absence of any better
> place that's perhaps indeed where to mention this.

How about this:

diff --git a/CODING_STYLE b/CODING_STYLE
index 7bf3848444ad..e33b9d1170cf 100644
--- a/CODING_STYLE
+++ b/CODING_STYLE
@@ -129,6 +129,10 @@ Fixed width types should only be used when a fixed width 
quantity is
 meant (which for example may be a value read from or to be written to a
 register).
 
+Macros which otherwise would use "typeof(arg) newarg =" to avoid double
+evaluation of side effects should use "auto newarg =" per it's C23 behaviour,
+to also avoid double textural expansion.
+
 Especially with pointer types, whenever the pointed to object is not
 (supposed to be) modified, qualify the pointed to type with "const".



>
> I am, however, still not quite sure if we're doing ourselves a favor with
> the re-purposing of auto (while not using C23 in general). It'll certainly
> hit me as unexpected, for some time, to see uses of the keyword. It simply
> has been for too long that it had its earlier meaning (of very limited use).

I suspect that people won't find this great reasoning, but here's how I
see it.

Linux already does this, so familiarity in wider circles is growing. 
Now C23 is available, people starting new projects will be using it,
which will normalise the construct further.

People are going to be forced to get used to it, one way or another. 
They can simply choose whether it's now, or later.

Within Xen, the scope is narrow.  I am specifically not advocating that
we get it used outside of macros.

~Andrew



 


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