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Re: [RFC PATCH] pvh: Introduce SIF_HVM_GHCB for SEV-ES/SNP guests
- To: Teddy Astie <teddy.astie@xxxxxxxxxx>
- From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2025 15:13:18 +0100
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- Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@xxxxxxxxxx>, Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@xxxxxxxxxx>, Michal Orzel <michal.orzel@xxxxxxx>, Julien Grall <julien@xxxxxxx>, Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@xxxxxxxxxx>, Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@xxxxxxxxxx>, xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Delivery-date: Mon, 29 Dec 2025 14:13:38 +0000
- List-id: Xen developer discussion <xen-devel.lists.xenproject.org>
On 29.12.2025 13:39, Teddy Astie wrote:
> Le 29/12/2025 à 09:24, Jan Beulich a écrit :
>> On 28.12.2025 13:49, Teddy Astie wrote:
>>> --- a/xen/include/public/xen.h
>>> +++ b/xen/include/public/xen.h
>>> @@ -890,6 +890,8 @@ typedef struct start_info start_info_t;
>>> #define SIF_MOD_START_PFN (1<<3) /* Is mod_start a PFN? */
>>> #define SIF_VIRT_P2M_4TOOLS (1<<4) /* Do Xen tools understand a virt.
>>> mapped */
>>> /* P->M making the 3 level tree
>>> obsolete? */
>>> +#define SIF_HVM_GHCB (1<<5) /* Domain is SEV-ES/SNP guest that
>>> requires */
>>> + /* use of GHCB. */
>>
>> Naming-wise, do we really want to tie this to AMD (and hence exclude other
>> vendors, or require yet another bit to be allocated later)?
>
> This is SEV-ES/SNP only, I don't think the same bit can be reused for
> another technology (unless it also uses the GHCB MSR). As the guest
> can't even check if it is Intel or AMD CPU at this point (if running
> under SEV-ES or SEV-SNP).
If it was just telling AMD from Intel, that would be possible. There are
a few well-known differences in how certain instructions behave [1]. But
here you aren't after telling apart the vendors; you want to know whether
you're (fundamentally) on SVM or VT-x.
Of course I have to admit that I find it quite irritating that in order
to execute CPUID one has to have a #VC handler properly set up. This
inverses the typical flow of events. Did they really not think of some
replacement for at least the most basic information?
Jan
[1] Of course, such details can change going forward. Vendors did alter
the behavior of certain insns in the past.
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