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Re: [PATCH v2 10/11] xen/riscv: add definition of guest RAM banks


  • To: Oleksii Kurochko <oleksii.kurochko@xxxxxxxxx>
  • From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2026 08:23:25 +0200
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  • Delivery-date: Tue, 07 Apr 2026 06:23:29 +0000
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On 06.04.2026 17:43, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/1/26 5:10 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 01.04.2026 16:53, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/1/26 4:22 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 01.04.2026 15:57, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
>>>>> On 4/1/26 8:17 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 31.03.2026 18:14, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/30/26 5:51 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 23.03.2026 17:29, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The dom0less solution uses defined RAM banks as compile-time 
>>>>>>>>> constants,
>>>>>>>>> so introduce macros to describe guest RAM banks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The reason for 2 banks is that there is typically always a use case 
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> low memory under 4 GB, but the bank under 4 GB ends up being small 
>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>> there are other things under 4 GB it can conflict with (interrupt
>>>>>>>>> controller, PCI BARs, etc.).
>>>>>>>> Fixed layouts like the one you suggest come with (potentially severe)
>>>>>>>> downsides. For example, what if more than 2Gb of MMIO space are needed
>>>>>>>> for non-64-bit BARs?
>>>>>>> It looks where usually RAM on RISC-V boards start, so I expect that 2gb
>>>>>>> before RAM start is enough for MMIO space.
>>>>>> Likely in the common case. Board designers aren't constrained by this,
>>>>>> though (aiui). Whereas you set in stone a single, fixed layout.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arm maintainers - since a similar fixed layout is used there iirc,
>>>>>> could you chime in here, please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Answering your question it will be an issue or it will also use some
>>>>>>> space before banks, no?
>>>>>> I fear I don't understand what you're trying to tell me.
>>>>> I meant that there is also some space between banks and pretty big which
>>>>> could be used for MMIO which could be used for non-64-bit BARs.
>>>> I don't follow: Bank 0 extends to 4G. There's no space above it, below
>>>> bank 1, which could be use for non-64-bit BARs.
>>>
>>> So we have two banks:
>>> bank[0] -> [0x80000000, 0x100000000)
>>> bank[1] -> [0x0200000000, 10000000000)
>>>
>>> So i think we have some space between them [0x100000000, 0x0200000000)
>>> -> 4gb to be used for non-64-bit BARs.
>>
>> But a non-64-bit BAR need to be assigned an address below 0x100000000?
> 
> Right, I had in mind that RV32 uses for guest Sv32x4 which could 
> translate 34-bit GPA into 34-bit MPA and automatically applied that to 
> 32-bit BAR...
> 
> I can keep first 4gb for MMIO purpose and start bank[0] at 4gb as 34 MPA 
> address space is more then enough to cover reserved 2gb of bank[0] after 
> 4gb.

Yet having no memory below 4G won't work for guests wanting to run in bare
mode? Don't guests even start up in bare mode (and hence 32-bit ones need
to have some of their memory below 4G in all cases)?

Jan



 


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