|
[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: [Xen-users] filesystem image of Fedora Core for Xen?
Xen is BIG because it is part of a bigger perspective -- as I mentioned. I also indicated in my first email that this project of providing Xen-based Dom 0 (images and source) as a kind of distribution is more of a user project than a development effort -- and try to get this -- it is supportive (to specifically Xen development -- not the look alikes). As a user project and if it flys (I guaranteee this one thing) it will quickly move Xen and it's potential out into the global user community because the technical aspects of the build have been obviated by the distribution. Big sentence for a big idea. There are literally thousands of semi technical linux users that would love to take their single machine and be able to "throw" it together using something like Xen. They just need it to be a simply achievable deal where they won't get bogged down in compilation errors and other mysteries of the software development universe. And I don't blame them -- everyone cannot be a Teckee or a Doctor or a Teacher. Lot's of Linux users have never seen a coding language. But for everyone, Xen makes their machine much more than a specific OS (that they compare to Windooze) and opens to them eventually all i86 based Operating Systems. And, as I said previously, Xen has the "advantage" of being part of a "BIGGER" more impressive and thrilling perspective of interest to many big companies now participating in Xen development and other Cambridge projects. Xen is BIG and thrilling. Watch it grow!!! I personally think that Xen or a product grown out of Xen will constitute the future Operating System installed on computers -- instead of Windooze or Linux or BSD, etc. These DomU types will become available as a choice but something like Xen will be the basis of installation. That's where I think the industry is going. Thanks -- Ted Kristinn Soffanias Runarsson wrote: Ted, I agree... I think that people are too afraid to go on their own with this, afraid to piss someone off. Everybody is afraid of forks and forking this and forking that. Haven't seen that happen on anything big yet. Let's take our ideas and make something of them, put them on-line and get people to comment and flame. I think that will help the promotion of Xen if we were just to make available something so small and easy as creating dom0 dists and domU guests.. Just think about how many geeks have tried out Xen when fedoraproject.org put up a small HOWTO on their wiki. for the record, I still don't consider putting together images as 'development'. I couldn't write bytecode to say 'Hello World' even if my life was at stake. soffi On Apr 3, 2005 2:02 AM, Ted Hilts <thilts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Soffi My nose is plugged - I have to breath through my mouth. I'm glad you think such a project is "cool" -- so do I, maybe others, maybe not. Because Xen is in development (with a so called stable version) is all the more reason to promote Xen not a reason to shy away from it. In addition, Xen is part of several related projects like Xenoboot for example and a larger and impressive perspective of networking. Therefore supporting Xen in a way is also supporting the other Cambridge projects aimed at the betterment of networking of which Xen is a part. Anyway, I have complete confidence in the Xen development team. Also, I see no harm to anyone and only help to others in providing this service if it is an acceptable one as far as the development team is concerned. I have not heard from them yet on this issue -- they are probably busy making the greatest product ever. Thanks - Ted Kristinn Soffanias Runarsson wrote: Please Ted, save the marketing speak (FREE, NO CHARGE etc.) Your idea is great, and I honour you... putting together a Dom0 dist would be cool. I´m gonna be focusing on getting domU (guests if you will) working. I'm quite happy with my dom0 setup (imho you don't set up/trash dom0's everyday.. that's what the domU's are for). If you wanna try out a Dom0, install Fedora Core4-test1 or FC3 and pull Xen in from development. I've also preordered SuSE 9.3 because they say they will be packaging Xen functionality there. Also.. keep in mind Ted, that Xen is in development, breathe through your nose. peace and love, soffi On Apr 3, 2005 1:37 AM, Ted Hilts <thilts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Kristinn This is getting confused. Okay, you were talking about DomU but I sort of thought you would be interested in doing Dom 0. I looked at the site you provided and (forgive me if I got it wrong as I often do) that is nothing to do with Xen. I want to find people -- if there are any -- interested in building an Xen-based (linux [Fedora, SuSE, Debian, Mandrake and the rest]) Dom 0 system installations in a way that they can be downloaded or put on DVD as an installation disk -- a kind of distribution if you will. In my opinion this would be a real service I could supply to the Xen community as I know of many people struggling to get Xen working or even afraid to try because of the time involved if problems turn up as they do for many. At least with working models they would be over the Dom 0 threshold and maybe looking at DomU issues. Right? A fully working (all tools based on most recent stable versions) and NO CHARGE service is what I am talking about consistent with Open and Free software development. If there are such people then I would provide the facilities -- FREE. So my previous email still stands and it looks as if you are not interested in participating in such an effort. Thanks -- Ted aq wrote: On Apr 3, 2005 9:30 AM, Ted Hilts <thilts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Kristinn If I understand you, you seem to be saying that for various distributions like Mandrake, Fedora Core, Gentoo, SuSE, etc., you are willing to produce Xen-based (Dom 0) linux base systems and put them on line??? no, that is domU, not dom0 I was going to ask the developers of Xen to consider this as a facet of their operation but I don't think their mandate allows them to do this or they don't see doing this directly in line with what they are doing. I think everything is fine. if you ever used QEMU, you must know the site hosting the qemu images (www.freeoszoo.org) ? the situation is same here. regards, aq _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
|
 |
Lists.xenproject.org is hosted with RackSpace, monitoring our |