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Re: [Xen-users] Can Xen run 32, 32PAE and 64-bit fully virtualized domains run side-by-side?
- To: "Petersson, Mats" <Mats.Petersson@xxxxxxx>
- From: "Omer Khalid" <Omer.Khalid@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:30:16 +0000
- Cc: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@xxxxxxx>, "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Krysan, Susan" <KRYSANS@xxxxxxxxxx>, xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hello Mats,
I really appreciate your prompt reply. Just to be 100% sure and not to assume some thing in the "verbal language", I made this table to lay out the bit-landscape of dom0/domU for clarity purpose for Xen
3.0.5!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | dom0
| -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| | Para-virtualized | Fully-virtualized | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| | 32-bit | 32-bit-p | 64-bit | 32-bit | 32-bit-p | 64-bit |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | d | |
| | o |--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| m | 32-bit | Y | N | N |
Y | Y | Y | | a |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |
i | | |
| n |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 32bit-P |
N | Y | N | N | Y | Y | |
U |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | |
| | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| | 64-bit | N | N | Y |
N | N | Y | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Would you agree with this?
Regards Omer
On 2/16/07, Petersson, Mats <Mats.Petersson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:
xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Omer Khalid > Sent: 16 February 2007 15:49 > To: Krysan, Susan > Cc: Petersson, Mats; Gerd Hoffmann; Daniel P. Berrange; >
xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Can Xen run 32, 32PAE and 64-bit > fully virtualized domains run side-by-side? > > Hello Krysan, > > I am trying to run 32 bit PAE Para-virtualized VM on a x86_64
> with Xen 3.0.3 64 bit. I always get this error: Xen Image is > not compatiable.
That is the expected behaviour for 3.0.3. Current unstable (to become 3.0.5) contains code to fix this for 32PAE on 64. I don't know if there
are any problems running 32PAE on 64 at the moment [it's not what I'm working on, so I haven't tried it] - but one thing is for sure, until the release of 3.0.5, there is no stable release that supports different
bitness in the guest and the hypervisor/Dom0.
> > You said in one of your messages on the Xen user list that > you are running 32 bit, 32 bit PAE and 64 bit > para-virtualized and HVM VM's with out any problems, where as
> in some threads from Jan 2007, it was argued that its not > possible! I am confused!
You can only (in current stable realeases of Xen) run "same on same" PV guests. HVM guest are able to run "less or equal", meaning that a 64-bit
hypervisor supports "all" types of guests, but a 32-bit hypervisor won't support 64-bit guests (and non-PAE hypervisor can't take PAE guests).
> > Which version of Xen are you using? And are there specific
> configuration one have to make for domU images?
Read again what Susan wrote (copied here for clarity): > Yes, on an x86_64 host you can run a mix of 32-bit, > 32-bit PAE, and 64-bit fully virtualized domains side-by-side.
All of those are FULLY VIRTUALIZAED guests (that is HVM or non-PV guests, whatever you want to call it.
>I have also run 64-bit paravirtualized domains side-by-side with fully > virtualized domains.
Still not claiming to run para-virtual at anything other than "same as Dom0".
-- Mats
> > Any help would be much appreciated! Best Regards > > Omer >
> > On 2/9/07, Krysan, Susan <KRYSANS@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Yes, on an x86_64 host you can run a mix of 32-bit,
> 32-bit PAE, and > 64-bit fully virtualized domains side-by-side. I have
> also run 64-bit > paravirtualized domains side-by-side with fully > virtualized domains. > > Weekly I boot up the following domains simultaneously > on x86_64 host: >
> SMP 64-bit SLES10 paravirtualized domain > SMP 32-bit SLES10 fully virtualized domain > SMP 32-bit PAE SLES10 fully virtualized domain > SMP 64-bit SLES10 fully virtualized domain
> UP Windows XP fully virtualized domain > UP Windows 2003 Server fully virtualized domain > > Once the domains have booted, I log in and run top > command in the SLES10
> guests and Windows task manager in the Windows guests. > > Thanks, > Sue Krysan > Linux Systems Group > Unisys Corporation > > -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:
xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
] On > Behalf Of Liang Yang > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 2:17 PM > To:
xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: Xen devel list
> Subject: [Xen-users] Can Xen run 32,32PAE and 64-bit > fully virtualized > domains run side-by-side? > > Hi, > > Can Xen run 32, 32PAE and 64-bit fully virtualized domains run
> side-by-side? > Or all DomainUF has to be the same mode? > > Thanks, > > Liang > > > _______________________________________________
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