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Re: [Xen-users] xen hvmloader gpxe



I.
I think it's very important maintaing windows diskless guests.
If we have lots windows guests could be very important maintan them using a single image.
Windows diskless is very different vs linux diskless.
Using VhdSoft or neoware image manager, you can make a single image for all windows guests (for example a 8GB image). Each windows guest which boots from network work on the single image and store a differencing cache image on the storage.
Firstly you can avoid to duplicate 8GB for each client.
Secondly you can handle updates on a single image rather than on each guest.
Thirdly you can decide to setup each image in administrator mode (to add patch or software), volatile mode (each modification is lost at next reboot), persistentg mode (write cache is not lost at next reboot). This technology could be used for physical PC, but it is very very usefull for virtual guests because virtual guests have the same hardware (so you need a single image). In other words I would be to make a Virtual Desktop Infrastructure saving money for storage and maintenance.
Are you agree ?
Ignazio
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Hi Ignazio,

Am Mittwoch, den 31.12.2008, 14:05 +0100 schrieb
ignazio.cassano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
I know pxe under xen and kvm is good for linux domu.
But have you ever tried for windows domu using neoware image manager
streaming or vhdsoft os streaming ?

Nope, but i really dont understand for what purpose you want to have
such a setup.

netbooting is for system which dont have local-disks. But in your case
the systems are vms. If you put your vm-images on a shared-storage (nfs,
iscsi, aoe, nbd or whatever) its the same in my eyes.

Or don't i get you right?

Why do you want/need netbooting windows-vms?

Have a look at @http://openqrm.com/storage-cluster.png

As you can see all DATA is in my storage-cluster and the dom0s have NO
local-disks, since they do netbooting. All vms resist in the
storage-cluster too....

 They requires an upgraded pxe.
I am sure kvm does not work if you don't add gpxe support to it.
I am sure Xenserver (from Citrix) does not work (it works only with
Citrix Provisioning).

You could also have a look at openqrm, which could be interesting to
you, since it supports many hypervisors (vmware server, esx, xen, citrix
xen, kvm, v-server,..), provides HA, integrated Monitoring, incl.
Storage-Management (nfs, iscsi, aoe, lvm, local-disks), providing
cloud-computing and finally its GPL.

http://www.openqrm.com

The new release adds some new features - especially the xen and kvm-part
has been enhanced

Regards
Igna

Regards,

Thomas




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