[Xen-users] Re: Xen-users Digest, Vol 68, Issue 41

[Jonathan Lettvin <jlettvin@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thank you, all.
I will try these.
If I succeed in mounting a xen
I will write start-to-finish instructions
and make them available.

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Today's Topics:

 1. Re: help a newbie please (Todd Deshane)
 2. Re: XCP - source code for loader in
  Â/opt/xensource/packages/files/guest-installer/ (Jonathan Ludlam)
 3. Re: help a newbie please (Fabio Catunda)
 4. Re: help a newbie please (Thomas Halinka)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:03:25 -0400
From: Todd Deshane <deshantm@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] help a newbie please
To: Jonathan Lettvin <jlettvin@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: xen-users mailing list <Xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I don't have personal experience with Lenny, perhaps the xen-users list does.

I see Debian does have kernels:
http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenDom0Kernels

Anybody running Xen + Dom0 kernel successfully on Lenny?

See Jonathan's question below.

Thanks,
Todd

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Jonathan Lettvin <jlettvin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Todd,
>
> I have installed Debian Lenny, and followed some of the instructions at:
> http://wiki.debian.org/Xen
> Specifically:
>
> Install Lenny. Finish the installation as you would normally do
> apt-get install install xen
> apt-get install xen-utils
> apt-get install xen-tools
>
> I am stumped about what to do at step 5
>
> install a xen dom0-capable kernel
>
> I downloaded the image from:
> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-686/download
> specifically:
> http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/l/linux-2.6/xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-686_2.6.26-25lenny1_i386.deb
>
> But I do not know how to install it.
> I tried dpkg -i, but it reports unsatisfied dependencies.
> I tried to follow down all the dependencies, but don't really know how.
>
> So, that is where I am now stuck.
> Can you recommend next steps for me?
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Jonathan Lettvin <jlettvin@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Todd,
>>
>> Thank you for your fast response.
>> Debian Lenny was my first candidate.
>> I installed it (many hours)
>> then acquired and compiled xen
>> and then booted to that kernel
>> and that was the attempt that led to
>> xend failing for lack of some resource.
>>
>> I will try it again, given your advice but
>> I fear I will waste another many hours
>> and end up with no better results.
>> A little bit of steering by you
>> would make a huge difference to me.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Todd Deshane <deshantm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Jonathan Lettvin <jlettvin@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi list readers,
>>> >
>>> > I am an experienced developer with only nominal configuration talent.
>>> > These days, mostly I use ubuntu linux, but have used Debian, WhiteBox,
>>> > CentOS, RH, Fedora.
>>> >
>>> > I have been using Sun VirtualBox to very great effect and hope for
>>> > better
>>> > performance
>>> > by installing and using xen.
>>> > I also intend to use Dom0 exclusively as a host, and not install any
>>> > other
>>> > packages.
>>> > Instead, I expect to do all my development and package downloads onto
>>> > guest
>>> > machines.
>>> >
>>> > I wish to do a fresh install of a xen linux onto a brand new 1TB disk
>>> > on my
>>> > IBM Thinkpad T61 laptop.
>>> > My intention is to generate file-based virtual machines that I can copy
>>> > to
>>> > make new instances.
>>> > I am expecting to use HVM rather than paravirtualization and files
>>> > instead
>>> > of logical volumes.
>>> >
>>> > So far, I have tried it three times, once with Debian Lenny, and twice
>>> > with
>>> > ubuntu Maverick Meerkat.
>>> > Every time I encounter show-stopper problems during compiles or xend
>>> > crash
>>> > on execution.
>>> > I do not know if I have identified a solid recipe to follow, or whether
>>> > my
>>> > choices are bad.
>>> >
>>> > What I request is start to finish step by step instructions (preferably
>>> > onto
>>> > ubuntu or Debian).
>>> > I am willing to back off on the Dom0 OS to an earlier ubuntu or Debian.
>>> > All I want is to generate a solid baseline xen system that is as
>>> > reliable
>>> > and simple as possible.
>>> >
>>> > I will start from scratch with a clean disk, if I can only get
>>> > instructions
>>> > that lead to a working host.
>>> >
>>> > Please help by providing a single complete clean instruction list to
>>> > achieve
>>> > this.
>>>
>>> These links might help.
>>>
>>> http://wiki.debian.org/Xen
>>> http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenCommonProblems
>>>
>>> Post questions if you get stuck on anything. ##xen on freenode is also
>>> a place to ask questions.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps.
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>> --
>>> Todd Deshane
>>> http://todddeshane.net
>>> http://runningxen.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> This e-mail is from Jonathan D. Lettvin, and may contain information that
>> is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, do not
>> read, copy or distribute the e-mail or any attachments. Instead, please
>> notify the sender and delete the e-mail and any attachments. Thank you.
>>
>> Jonathan D. Lettvin
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail is from Jonathan D. Lettvin, and may contain information that is
> confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, do not
> read, copy or distribute the e-mail or any attachments. Instead, please
> notify the sender and delete the e-mail and any attachments. Thank you.
>
> Jonathan D. Lettvin
>



--
Todd Deshane
http://todddeshane.net
http://runningxen.com



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:09:16 +0100
From: Jonathan Ludlam <Jonathan.Ludlam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] XCP - source code for loader in
   Â/opt/xensource/packages/files/guest-installer/
To: George Shuklin <george.shuklin@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <947CAC2B-BC78-49B8-8C13-1DC0B8DBE6BB@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi George,

That's a slightly odd part of the build. What's going on here is that the 'loader' file comes from the anaconda RPM, and has to be there because we've fixed an issue with recognising xen block devices. Now, I don't believe we provide a patched SRPM for anaconda. But it turns out that's just because we've been lazy rather than we're hiding any code. 'loader' is part of anaconda, but the change is in a staticly linked library provided by kudzu. Probably what we should have done is explicitly produce a new anaconda SRPM with a buildrequires line that mentions the required version of kudzu. But we haven't - yet.

So, to build this file, you'll need to install the patched kudzu rpm, then get the standard anaconda SRPM from the RHEL repositories, and rebuild that.

I haven't actually tried this myself, but I'm assured this is how it works :-)

Cheers,

Jon


On 22 Oct 2010, at 13:26, George Shuklin wrote:

> Good day.
>
> I trying to look to source code for sbin/loader in
>
> /opt/xensource/packages/files/guest-installer/el5.4-initrd-additions.cpio
>
> but unable to find it on source-1.iso. (May be I just search in wrong
> places).
>
> Where it source can be found?
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users




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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 11:13:56 -0200
From: Fabio Catunda <fcatunda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] help a newbie please
To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <4CC18E14.9040704@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Todd,

Just run
# apt-get install linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-686

It will resolve the dependency problem and install the linux-image with
Xen support for you.

I'm running Xen with Debian with (almost) no problems for a while, the
only critical problem that I had is a machine that just rebooted after
492 days running with no reason at all... but if it happens every 492
days, I can leave with that.

Regards,

FÃbio Catunda.

On 10/22/2010 11:03 AM, Todd Deshane wrote:
> I don't have personal experience with Lenny, perhaps the xen-users list does.
>
> I see Debian does have kernels:
> http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenDom0Kernels
>
> Anybody running Xen + Dom0 kernel successfully on Lenny?
>
> See Jonathan's question below.
>
> Thanks,
> Todd
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Jonathan Lettvin<jlettvin@xxxxxxxxx> Âwrote:
>
>> Hi Todd,
>>
>> I have installed Debian Lenny, and followed some of the instructions at:
>> http://wiki.debian.org/Xen
>> Specifically:
>>
>> Install Lenny. Finish the installation as you would normally do
>> apt-get install install xen
>> apt-get install xen-utils
>> apt-get install xen-tools
>>
>> I am stumped about what to do at step 5
>>
>> install a xen dom0-capable kernel
>>
>> I downloaded the image from:
>> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-686/download
>> specifically:
>> http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/l/linux-2.6/xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-686_2.6.26-25lenny1_i386.deb
>>
>> But I do not know how to install it.
>> I tried dpkg -i, but it reports unsatisfied dependencies.
>> I tried to follow down all the dependencies, but don't really know how.
>>
>> So, that is where I am now stuck.
>> Can you recommend next steps for me?
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Jonathan Lettvin<jlettvin@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Todd,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your fast response.
>>> Debian Lenny was my first candidate.
>>> I installed it (many hours)
>>> then acquired and compiled xen
>>> and then booted to that kernel
>>> and that was the attempt that led to
>>> xend failing for lack of some resource.
>>>
>>> I will try it again, given your advice but
>>> I fear I will waste another many hours
>>> and end up with no better results.
>>> A little bit of steering by you
>>> would make a huge difference to me.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Todd Deshane<deshantm@xxxxxxxxx> Âwrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Jonathan Lettvin<jlettvin@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi list readers,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am an experienced developer with only nominal configuration talent.
>>>>> These days, mostly I use ubuntu linux, but have used Debian, WhiteBox,
>>>>> CentOS, RH, Fedora.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been using Sun VirtualBox to very great effect and hope for
>>>>> better
>>>>> performance
>>>>> by installing and using xen.
>>>>> I also intend to use Dom0 exclusively as a host, and not install any
>>>>> other
>>>>> packages.
>>>>> Instead, I expect to do all my development and package downloads onto
>>>>> guest
>>>>> machines.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish to do a fresh install of a xen linux onto a brand new 1TB disk
>>>>> on my
>>>>> IBM Thinkpad T61 laptop.
>>>>> My intention is to generate file-based virtual machines that I can copy
>>>>> to
>>>>> make new instances.
>>>>> I am expecting to use HVM rather than paravirtualization and files
>>>>> instead
>>>>> of logical volumes.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far, I have tried it three times, once with Debian Lenny, and twice
>>>>> with
>>>>> ubuntu Maverick Meerkat.
>>>>> Every time I encounter show-stopper problems during compiles or xend
>>>>> crash
>>>>> on execution.
>>>>> I do not know if I have identified a solid recipe to follow, or whether
>>>>> my
>>>>> choices are bad.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I request is start to finish step by step instructions (preferably
>>>>> onto
>>>>> ubuntu or Debian).
>>>>> I am willing to back off on the Dom0 OS to an earlier ubuntu or Debian.
>>>>> All I want is to generate a solid baseline xen system that is as
>>>>> reliable
>>>>> and simple as possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will start from scratch with a clean disk, if I can only get
>>>>> instructions
>>>>> that lead to a working host.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please help by providing a single complete clean instruction list to
>>>>> achieve
>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>> These links might help.
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.debian.org/Xen
>>>> http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenCommonProblems
>>>>
>>>> Post questions if you get stuck on anything. ##xen on freenode is also
>>>> a place to ask questions.
>>>>
>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>
>>>> Todd
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Todd Deshane
>>>> http://todddeshane.net
>>>> http://runningxen.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> This e-mail is from Jonathan D. Lettvin, and may contain information that
>>> is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, do not
>>> read, copy or distribute the e-mail or any attachments. Instead, please
>>> notify the sender and delete the e-mail and any attachments. Thank you.
>>>
>>> Jonathan D. Lettvin
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> This e-mail is from Jonathan D. Lettvin, and may contain information that is
>> confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, do not
>> read, copy or distribute the e-mail or any attachments. Instead, please
>> notify the sender and delete the e-mail and any attachments. Thank you.
>>
>> Jonathan D. Lettvin
>>
>>
>
>
>



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:18:34 +0200
From: Thomas Halinka <lists@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] help a newbie please
To: deshantm@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Jonathan Lettvin <jlettvin@xxxxxxxxx>, Â Â Âxen-users mailing list
   Â<Xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1287753514.2010.2.camel@E4310>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hi Guys,

I have up2date XEN- and Kernel-Packages for most Common Distris like
Fedora 11-13, Centos 5, RHEL6, Debian and Ubuntu 10.XX, so you can use
Distris-Package-Manager to get a running XEN-System in about 15 minutes.

Let me know if anybody is interested.

cu,

thomas


Am Freitag, den 22.10.2010, 09:03 -0400 schrieb Todd Deshane:
> I don't have personal experience with Lenny, perhaps the xen-users list does.
>
> I see Debian does have kernels:
> http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenDom0Kernels
>
> Anybody running Xen + Dom0 kernel successfully on Lenny?
>
> See Jonathan's question below.
>
> Thanks,
> Todd
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Jonathan Lettvin <jlettvin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi Todd,
> >
> > I have installed Debian Lenny, and followed some of the instructions at:
> > http://wiki.debian.org/Xen
> > Specifically:
> >
> > Install Lenny. Finish the installation as you would normally do
> > apt-get install install xen
> > apt-get install xen-utils
> > apt-get install xen-tools
> >
> > I am stumped about what to do at step 5
> >
> > install a xen dom0-capable kernel
> >
> > I downloaded the image from:
> > http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-686/download
> > specifically:
> > http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/l/linux-2.6/xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-686_2.6.26-25lenny1_i386.deb
> >
> > But I do not know how to install it.
> > I tried dpkg -i, but it reports unsatisfied dependencies.
> > I tried to follow down all the dependencies, but don't really know how.
> >
> > So, that is where I am now stuck.
> > Can you recommend next steps for me?
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Jonathan Lettvin <jlettvin@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Todd,
> >>
> >> Thank you for your fast response.
> >> Debian Lenny was my first candidate.
> >> I installed it (many hours)
> >> then acquired and compiled xen
> >> and then booted to that kernel
> >> and that was the attempt that led to
> >> xend failing for lack of some resource.
> >>
> >> I will try it again, given your advice but
> >> I fear I will waste another many hours
> >> and end up with no better results.
> >> A little bit of steering by you
> >> would make a huge difference to me.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Todd Deshane <deshantm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Jonathan Lettvin <jlettvin@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Hi list readers,
> >>> >
> >>> > I am an experienced developer with only nominal configuration talent.
> >>> > These days, mostly I use ubuntu linux, but have used Debian, WhiteBox,
> >>> > CentOS, RH, Fedora.
> >>> >
> >>> > I have been using Sun VirtualBox to very great effect and hope for
> >>> > better
> >>> > performance
> >>> > by installing and using xen.
> >>> > I also intend to use Dom0 exclusively as a host, and not install any
> >>> > other
> >>> > packages.
> >>> > Instead, I expect to do all my development and package downloads onto
> >>> > guest
> >>> > machines.
> >>> >
> >>> > I wish to do a fresh install of a xen linux onto a brand new 1TB disk
> >>> > on my
> >>> > IBM Thinkpad T61 laptop.
> >>> > My intention is to generate file-based virtual machines that I can copy
> >>> > to
> >>> > make new instances.
> >>> > I am expecting to use HVM rather than paravirtualization and files
> >>> > instead
> >>> > of logical volumes.
> >>> >
> >>> > So far, I have tried it three times, once with Debian Lenny, and twice
> >>> > with
> >>> > ubuntu Maverick Meerkat.
> >>> > Every time I encounter show-stopper problems during compiles or xend
> >>> > crash
> >>> > on execution.
> >>> > I do not know if I have identified a solid recipe to follow, or whether
> >>> > my
> >>> > choices are bad.
> >>> >
> >>> > What I request is start to finish step by step instructions (preferably
> >>> > onto
> >>> > ubuntu or Debian).
> >>> > I am willing to back off on the Dom0 OS to an earlier ubuntu or Debian.
> >>> > All I want is to generate a solid baseline xen system that is as
> >>> > reliable
> >>> > and simple as possible.
> >>> >
> >>> > I will start from scratch with a clean disk, if I can only get
> >>> > instructions
> >>> > that lead to a working host.
> >>> >
> >>> > Please help by providing a single complete clean instruction list to
> >>> > achieve
> >>> > this.
> >>>
> >>> These links might help.
> >>>
> >>> http://wiki.debian.org/Xen
> >>> http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenCommonProblems
> >>>
> >>> Post questions if you get stuck on anything. ##xen on freenode is also
> >>> a place to ask questions.
> >>>
> >>> Hope that helps.
> >>>
> >>> Todd
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Todd Deshane
> >>> http://todddeshane.net
> >>> http://runningxen.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> This e-mail is from Jonathan D. Lettvin, and may contain information that
> >> is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, do not
> >> read, copy or distribute the e-mail or any attachments. Instead, please
> >> notify the sender and delete the e-mail and any attachments. Thank you.
> >>
> >> Jonathan D. Lettvin
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > This e-mail is from Jonathan D. Lettvin, and may contain information that is
> > confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, do not
> > read, copy or distribute the e-mail or any attachments. Instead, please
> > notify the sender and delete the e-mail and any attachments. Thank you.
> >
> > Jonathan D. Lettvin
> >
>
>
>





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