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* Over the years the terminology has changed a bit, a "switch" is (in 
1980s/1990s terminology) a "multiport network bridge", and back then such 
devices were a) very very expensive, and b) had very few ports, and ... c) few 
people had a clue what they did (myself included back then).


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sed, but a real machine, and the bridge were a real switch sat on your desk=
top. You'd need a means of configuring the networking on the "guest" (eg st=
atic config or DHCP), and a means of getting it's traffic to-from the outsi=
de world (typically by means of a router).<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
one">Now you are going to take those separate pieces of hardware and roll t=
hem up into a virtualised setup. The switch turns into a virtual switch (a =
bridge* in Linux networking terminology), the computer turns into a virtual=
ised guest, and the router turns into ? At home I run a separate guest as a=
 two port router, but you can put it's functions into the Dom0 config.<br c=
lear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">So from the PoV of the guest, it's just co=
nnected to a network switch. Nothing magical changes, and it's IP config is=
 managed in just the same way as the real machine.<br clear=3D"none">From t=
he PoV of the bridge, it's just a network switch with two devices connected=
 (Dom0 and the guest when doing routing/NAT in Dom0).<br clear=3D"none"><br=
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nged a bit, a "switch" is (in 1980s/1990s terminology) a "multiport network=
 bridge", and back then such devices were a) very very expensive, and b) ha=
d very few ports, and ... c) few people had a clue what they did (myself in=
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