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RE: [Xen-devel][PATCH]Provide 3 times continously writes check and unshadow the guest page


  • To: "Tim Deegan" <Tim.Deegan@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • From: "Xin, Xiaohui" <xiaohui.xin@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:19:55 +0800
  • Cc: xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Delivery-date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:21:11 -0800
  • List-id: Xen developer discussion <xen-devel.lists.xensource.com>
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  • Thread-topic: [Xen-devel][PATCH]Provide 3 times continously writes check and unshadow the guest page


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tim Deegan [mailto:Tim.Deegan@xxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: 2008年1月23日 17:52
>To: Xin, Xiaohui
>Cc: xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [Xen-devel][PATCH]Provide 3 times continously writes check and
>unshadow the guest page
>
>Hi,
>
>At 13:41 +0800 on 23 Jan (1201095692), Xin, Xiaohui wrote:
>> The patch checks if the guest continuously writes 3 times to the same
>> guest page table pages, if yes, then unshadow the guest pages.
>
>Interesting.  I would expect this to be painful on 64-bit windows, which
>writes more intermediate values to pagetables, but the numbers disagree.
>Maybe it never writes three values back to back.  Certainly a better way
>of detecting when pagetables are reused as data pages is welcome, though
>we've been bitten here before.
>
>> The idea is copied from the KVM side. And since the idea has
>> overlapped with the now optimization in the now Xen shadow code, so
>> the patch removes the optimization part which when the guest writes 2
>> continuously 0 to the same page, then unshadow the guest page.
>
>So to summarize, seven of your performance tests get slightly worse, two
>get slightly better and two (x64 linux kernel build times and iperf) get
>markedly better.  Do you have confidence intervals for the measurements,
>by the way?
>
Yes, we have confidence with the measurements, since it's always the average 
number of 5 or 6 times.

>Do your HVM linux guests have PV drivers?  If not, does using PV drivers
>make a difference to iperf?
>
No, the guests we used do not have PV drivers. What your concerns are on this 
point?

>> +    if ( v->arch.paging.shadow.last_emulated_gfn ==
>> +                    mfn_to_gfn(v->domain, gmfn) )
>
>Is there a reason for tracking this a a GFN instead of an MFN?
>
You're right, guest gfn always have one gmfn, so we have over-thought on it.

Then, how about your final opinion about the patch? We did not see it clearly 
from your reply. :-(

>Cheers,
>
>Tim.
>
>--
>Tim Deegan <Tim.Deegan@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Principal Software Engineer, Citrix Systems (R&D) Ltd.
>[Company #02300071, SL9 0DZ, UK.]

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